[Python-ideas] How to respond to trolling (Guido van Rossum)

Random832 random832 at fastmail.com
Thu Jan 12 18:21:43 EST 2017


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 17:39, Brett Cannon wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 at 20:56 Simon Lovell <simon58500 at bigpond.com> wrote:
> > I don't know what is meant by some insults having been thrown in.
> > Calling truthiness of non boolean data "Ugly" is an insult? It is ugly.
> 
> Now *that *is insulting to me. Once again, you are allowed to disagree
> and
> say you don't like how truthiness is handled in Python, but you flat-out
> stating something is ugly insults all the time and effort that me and the
> other core developers have put into Python to try and make it the best
> language we can with the constraints we have to work within.

Just out of curiosity... in your estimation, what is a "wart", and why
is the term "wart" used for it? I mean, this is an accepted term that
the Python community uses to refer to things, that is not generally
regarded to be cause for an accusation of personally insulting anyone,
right? I haven't stepped into an alternate universe?

The only thing that "python features regarded as 'warts'" and "the skin
condition called 'warts'" have in common, to connect them to even allow
such an analogy to form, is that they are both regarded as negative to a
commonly held sense of aesthetics - or, in a word, that they are 'ugly'.


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