[Python-Dev] backporting stdlib 2.7.x from pypy to cpython

[Brett Cannon]

On Monday, June 11, 2012, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

> Brett Cannon writes:
>
>  > But we already have the various SIGs carry out discussions outside of
>  > python-dev and just bring forward their results to python-dev when they
> are
>  > ready. Why would this list be any different?
>
> (1) Because AIUI the main problem this list is supposed to solve is
>    contacting interested parties and getting them to come to
>    python-dev where the actual discussion will take place.  Almost
>    certainly some of the actual discussion will take place on
>    python-dev, no?  It *is* on-topic for python-dev, right?  (Guido
>    seems to think so, anyway....)  So it's not going to focus
>    discussion the way a SIG list does.


Not necessarily. Just like discussions on SIGs can start and end there, I
see no requirement that discussions on the list end up on python-dev.


>
> (2) Because it delegates issue triage to people who don't actually
>    know which of the various VMs will care about a particular change,
>    so it's unlikely to be terribly accurate.
>
> (3) The SIGs attract long-term interest from a body of "usual
>    suspects".  It's worth it to them to invest in the SIG list.
>    While the VM folks will have a long term interest, by the current
>    definition of the new list they won't be starting threads very
>    often!  The people who should be starting threads are quite likely
>    to have interest in only one thread, so their incentive to move it
>    to the new list will be low; their natural tendency will be to
>    post to python-dev and "let George move the thread if needed".
>
>
Discussions on the list would universally affect all VMs, so there is an
incentive to pay attention.


> None of that means the new list is a bad idea -- it might be accurate
> *enough* to be a big improvement, etc -- just that it clearly is
> different from the various SIGs in some important ways.
>


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