[python-committers] Moderation of the Python community

[Victor Stinner]

Ok, I proposed an update to my PEP to explain the process to ban a
core developer:
https://github.com/python/peps/pull/810/files

Victor
Le jeu. 18 oct. 2018 à 01:23, Victor Stinner <vstinner at redhat.com> a écrit :
>
> Le jeu. 18 oct. 2018 à 00:16, Ethan Furman <ethan at stoneleaf.us> a écrit :
> >
> > On 10/17/2018 03:05 PM, Victor Stinner wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, by the way, should we have two different choices: remove the
> > > commit bit from a core dev (downgrade a core dev as a regular
> > > contributor) and ban a core dev?
> >
> > No.  If it comes to this, then the dev needs to be banned.  I would not
> > expect this to happen except maybe once in what's left of my lifetime.
>
> Ok. In that case, I would suggest to ban the core dev *and* drop their
> commit bit. I'm not sure that we want to keep a banned user as part of
> core developers. Extract of my PEP:
>
> "Core developers are also expected to be exemplary when it comes to
> the Code of Conduct."
>
> Let's say that a core dev is banned for, let's say 6 months. What
> happens next? Can we reconsider later to open a vote to "promote"
> again the developer if they proved that they changed their behaviour?
>
> Again, I'm really dislike the idea of banning someone for their own
> life. IMHO that would be either unfair and counter-productive. It's
> really difficult to find core developers, so we should remain open if
> people change their behaviour.
>
> Moreover, banning someone for life puts more pressure on the people
> who decide on the ban. It's way easier to decide to only ban someone
> for 1 week rather than banning someone for their own life.
>
> I proposed to start with a ban of 1 week if discussion and warnings
> didn't work. I suggest to drop the commit bit at the first ban (of 1
> week). Again, to be consistent with "be exemplary when it comes to the
> Code of Conduct".
>
> Context: I would like to formalize everything in my PEP :-)
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8015/
>
> Note: I'm really not comfortable to talk about banning someone. But it
> seems like we all are on the same page, such case is really
> exceptional and will only be the very last resort if all other
> attempts failed.
>
> Victor