[Mailman-Users] Cascading lists

[Rubén Fernández Asensio]

Finally I got it working!

As for your offer to edit the wiki, thanks, but I don't have time to 
test all the different possible setups. I can only offer information for 
one, which would be as follows:

"If you want an umbrella list to post anonymous announcements to several 
sublists at once, always getting the appropriate footer from each list, 
and not allowing sublist members to post, follow this procedure:

1. Create the umbrella list and set it up as anonymous (General Options 
 > anonymous_list) and as umbrella (General Options > umbrella_list).

2. Add the sublists' posting addresses as members of the umbrella list.

3. Either add the addresses of people allowed to post to the umbrella as 
umbrella members, or authorize them to post as nonmembers (Privacy > 
Sender filters > accept_these_nonmembers).

4. In every sublist, put the umbrella's posting address as accepted 
non-member (Privacy > Sender filters > accept_these_nonmembers).

5. In every sublist, put the umbrella's posting address as acceptable 
alias (Privacy > Recipient filters > acceptable_aliases). This last step 
is necessary only if require_explicit_destination is set to 'Yes'.

If you don't get the expected results, check the /var/log/mailman/vette 
log and the value of the USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER directive in mm_cfg.py or 
Defaults.py."

And then you could add footnotes and alternative fixes to debug the 
procedure. However, you'd need to add two more howtos on setting up 
non-anonymous umbrellas and cross-posting umbrellas, which I didn't try. 
In any way, that messy wiki must be fixed. Features won't be used unless 
they're well documented.

Ruben Fernandez

El 06/06/18 a les 23:31, Mark Sapiro ha escrit:
> On 06/06/2018 01:49 PM, Rubén Fernández Asensio wrote:
> 
> Thank you for your opinion. It is after all a wiki and if you look at
> <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20set%20up%20an%20umbrella%20list%3F?action=info>
> you'll see that the language actually predates any of my edits and
> despite what I said earlier, I didn't write the parts that offend you.
> 
> Anyway, If you are willing to create an account on the wiki, I'll be
> happy to give you write permission and you can update the page as you
> see fit.
> 
> Look in Mailman's vette log and see if that gives a reason. If not, do
> the cautious thing one does when experimenting and change all the list
> settings that are currently "Discard" to "Hold" and see why the messages
> are held.
> 
> I suspect your issue is that the sublist(s) are discarding the message
> from the umbrella because Privacy options... -> Sender filters ->
> generic_nonmember_action is Discard and the post is not from a list
> member. This is the second issue.
> 	
> 
> 
>> On the other hand, you're too scarce on really
>> necessary information: what's the "@Listname syntax" that might fix the
>> second problem?
> 
> 
> It is a way to reference all the members of a different list in a list's
> *_these_nonmembers (accept_these_nonmembers in this case. Follow the
> (Details for accept_these_nonmembers) link in the admin Privacy
> options... -> Sender filters UI.
>