[Mailman-Users] Sample of an Uncaught bounce notification

Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com
Tue Jan 30 16:48:30 EST 2018


Hi, Reference:
> From:		Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
> Date:		Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:36:50 -0800

Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 01/30/2018 07:48 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > 
> > Mark Sapiro wrote:  Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:10:34 -0800
> >>
> >> Thank you for your report. In this case, the message that is an
> >> "unrecognized bounce" is not an actual bounce of a list message. It is a
> >> message (looks like spam)
> > 
> > Thanks Mark,
> > It's not spam, but a bilingual German & English change of address,
> > presumably from an auto responder from a subscribed address (I checked).
> 
> 
> Thank you for the clarification.
> 
> 
> ...
> > Thanks. At berklix.org I have no time for subscribers who consume
> > list owners' time with auto responders, I like mailman to auto
> > detect automatic response noise, & count & auto unsubscribe continuing
> > noisy subscrbers.
> > 
> > In case the sample is of use I will leave it here for a bit:
> > http://berklix.com/~jhs/tmp/mailman/uncaught_bounce_notification/1
> 
> 
> It's hard enough to recognize all the various non-compliant messages
> which are actually bounces of list mail and extract the bouncing
> address(es) from them.
> 
> While I sympathize with the problem of autoresponders replying to the
> list or the list-bounces address, to try to actually recognize such
> messages as what they are and attribute them to the actual list member
> is a task too daunting for me to consider.
> 
> For autoresponses to the list, you could use header_filter_rules to
> match things like auto-submitted or auto-replied and discard such
> messages, but that won't work for messages to the -bounces address.
> 
> You can chose to forward such messages to the list owners or ignore
> them,

OK, good idea, I'll see what I can set up to ignore


> but to ask Mailman to determine the responsible list member and
> score a bounce is more than I'm willing to try to do.

Thanks, sure, no problem.
Just posted it in case it might have been an easy case to catch.

Cheers,
Julian
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