[Mailman-Users] duplicates

[Marco Stoecker]

On 10/26/2015 11:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 10/26/2015 02:14 PM, Marco Stoecker wrote:
> 
>> I did attach the header from a recent message I got last week. I'm a
>> member of a
>> list and the sender sent this mail to 5 mailinglists on our server. Each
>> member of these 5 lists got 5 messages.
>>
>> But the email, which I sent last week, with the attachement never made
>> it to this list. How can I send the headers instead, cause this email
>> would be very long?
> 
> 
> I never saw such a message, even in the moderation queue because of size.
> 
> You can view the raw message, select all the headers, copy and paste
> them into a post.
> 
> 
>> Did I understood right, all entry in /var/log/mailman/smtp file are made
>> by mailman and in this case it could be an indicator that mailman send
>> the email 5 times to each list?
> 
> 
> Yes, the smtp log entries indicate each of the 5 lists received 5
> messages with message-id <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>.
> 
> Also, delivery from Mailman to Postfix seems slow, but that's a separate
> issue and may not be a problem for you.
> 
> 
>> And here is the corresponding entry in the /var/log/mailman/smtp file:
>>
>> Oct 22 10:40:33 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to
>> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 21.833 seconds
> ...
>> Oct 22 10:41:39 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to
>> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 10.615 seconds
> ...
>> Oct 22 10:42:32 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to
>> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 10.289 seconds
> ...
>> Oct 22 10:44:09 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to
>> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 11.101 seconds
> ...
>> Oct 22 10:44:28 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to
>> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 9.971 seconds
> 
> 
> So we know that each list is receiving 5 copies of the message. I'm am
> certain this duplication occurs in the MTA delivering to Mailman or
> before and not in Mailman itself.
> 
> The most helpful information would be the Postfix log entries from
> several minutes before Oct 22 10:40:33 2015 up to Oct 22 10:44:28 2015,
> 
This is the related mail.log entry:

Oct 22 10:40:05 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: connect from localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:05 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: BF9AD1C94:
client=localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:05 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: BF9AD1C94:
message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>
Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: BF9AD1C94:
from=<alexandrakick at web.de>, size=312694, nrcpt=5 (queue active)
Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: ADDE72652:
client=localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: ADDE72652:
message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>
Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: BF9AD1C94:
to=<beisitz at localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.2, delays=4.9/0.03/0/0.3,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz)
Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: BF9AD1C94:
to=<vorstand at localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.3, delays=4.9/0.11/0/0.29,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand)
Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: BF9AD1C94:
to=<kollegium at localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.3,
delays=4.9/0.07/0/0.33, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium)
Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: BF9AD1C94:
to=<gruppensprecher at localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.3,
delays=4.9/0.05/0/0.36, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher)
Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: BF9AD1C94:
to=<ak-leiter at localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.3,
delays=4.9/0.02/0/0.39, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter)
Oct 22 10:40:11 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: BF9AD1C94: removed
Oct 22 10:40:12 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: connect from localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:12 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: 2AFF52697:
client=localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:12 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4921]: 2AFF52697:
message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>
Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: ADDE72652:
from=<alexandrakick at web.de>, size=312704, nrcpt=5 (queue active)
Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: ADDE72652:
to=<vorstand at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0.01/0/0.35,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand)
Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: ADDE72652:
to=<gruppensprecher at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11,
delays=11/0/0/0.35, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher)
Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: ADDE72652:
to=<ak-leiter at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.35,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter)
Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: ADDE72652:
to=<beisitz at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.36,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz)
Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: ADDE72652:
to=<kollegium at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0.01/0/0.36,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium)
Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: 8010E3A: client=localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: 8010E3A:
message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>
Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: ADDE72652: removed
Oct 22 10:40:23 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 2AFF52697:
from=<beisitz-bounces at waldorfkindergarten-erlangen.de>, size=314124,
nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 22 10:40:23 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: 63AC226AE:
client=localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:23 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4921]: 63AC226AE:
message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>
Oct 22 10:40:27 wakis02 postfix/smtp[4937]: 2AFF52697:
to=<N.Rausch at gmx.net>, relay=smtp.1und1.de[212.227.15.183]:25, delay=16,
delays=11/0.17/0.17/4.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Requested mail
action okay, completed: id=0MUQrq-1ZyZK12VWs-00R3sy)
Oct 22 10:40:27 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 2AFF52697: removed
Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 8010E3A:
from=<alexandrakick at web.de>, size=312694, nrcpt=5 (queue active)
Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: 8010E3A:
to=<gruppensprecher at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11,
delays=11/0/0/0.32, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher)
Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: 8010E3A:
to=<vorstand at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0.01/0/0.32,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand)
Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: 8010E3A:
to=<ak-leiter at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.33,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter)
Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: 8010E3A:
to=<kollegium at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0.01/0/0.33,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium)
Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: 8010E3A:
to=<beisitz at localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.34,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz)
Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: 8251C2697:
client=localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: 8251C2697:
message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>
Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 8010E3A: removed
Oct 22 10:40:33 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: disconnect from localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:33 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: connect from localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:34 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 63AC226AE:
from=<beisitz-bounces at waldorfkindergarten-erlangen.de>, size=314101,
nrcpt=2 (queue active)
Oct 22 10:40:34 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: 230E52694:
client=localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:34 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4921]: 230E52694:
message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>
Oct 22 10:40:38 wakis02 postfix/smtp[4937]: 63AC226AE:
to=<email1 at mail.de>, relay=smtp.1und1.de[212.227.15.167]:25, delay=15,
delays=11/0.13/0.18/4.2, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Requested mail
action okay, completed: id=0LkPdb-1aMsY51RPP-00cMXf)
Oct 22 10:40:38 wakis02 postfix/smtp[4937]: 63AC226AE:
to=<email2 at mail.de>, relay=smtp.1und1.de[212.227.15.167]:25, delay=15,
delays=11/0.13/0.18/4.2, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Requested mail
action okay, completed: id=0LkPdb-1aMsY51RPP-00cMXf)
Oct 22 10:40:38 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 63AC226AE: removed
Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 8251C2697:
from=<alexandrakick at web.de>, size=312695, nrcpt=5 (queue active)
Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: 98DC6269A:
client=localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: 8251C2697:
to=<beisitz at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.35,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz)
Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: 8251C2697:
to=<ak-leiter at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.35,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter)
Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: 8251C2697:
to=<gruppensprecher at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12,
delays=11/0/0/0.35, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher)
Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: 8251C2697:
to=<kollegium at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.36,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium)
Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: 8251C2697:
to=<vorstand at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.36,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand)
Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: 98DC6269A:
message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>
Oct 22 10:40:44 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 8251C2697: removed
Oct 22 10:40:45 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 230E52694:
from=<ak-leiter-bounces at waldorfkindergarten-erlangen.de>, size=314166,
nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 22 10:40:46 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: E1EE526B3:
client=localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:46 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4921]: E1EE526B3:
message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>
Oct 22 10:40:50 wakis02 postfix/smtp[4937]: 230E52694:
to=<email3 at mail.de>, relay=smtp.1und1.de[212.227.15.183]:25, delay=17,
delays=12/0.32/0.2/4.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Requested mail
action okay, completed: id=0MUjgO-1a1LbG1CxA-00Y9t2)
Oct 22 10:40:50 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 230E52694: removed
Oct 22 10:40:54 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: disconnect from localhost[::1]
Oct 22 10:40:54 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 98DC6269A:
from=<alexandrakick at web.de>, size=312696, nrcpt=5 (queue active)
Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: 98DC6269A:
to=<gruppensprecher at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12,
delays=11/0/0/0.38, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher)
Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: 98DC6269A:
to=<kollegium at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.39,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium)
Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: 98DC6269A:
to=<vorstand at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0.01/0/0.39,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand)
Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: 98DC6269A:
to=<beisitz at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.4,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz)
Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: 98DC6269A:
to=<ak-leiter at localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.4,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter)
Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 98DC6269A: removed