[Mailman-Users] Part of moderated mails postponed to later digests

[Henrik Rasmussen]

> This is the first time (I think) you mentioned 'posted to the list'
This may be something with lost in translation. What I meant by "posted to the list" is "forwarded to the members" after approval. 

> Are the messages missing from the digest not posted to the list at all until the next week? I.e. are they not in the list archives and not delivered to any non-digest members?
There are only a few non-digest members and the list admin is not aware whether they receive the mails or not.

> If in fact the missing messages don't appear in the archive until the next week, this is a different issue which has nothing to do with digests per se.
I will look closely at that, and get info from the list admin on when he approves mails.

>> if you don't want digests triggered on size
> The list admin doesn't need digests sent according to size so a digest_size_threshhold = 10000 should be fine. The moderator wants to have the mails included in a digest the next noon after approving the mails.

> Are the messages which are sent, sent in an immediate digest at the time of approval or just the next noon?
> If the former, that digest is triggered on size. If the latter, those are the only messages that actually got approved at that time.
Next noon.

> What does the vette log say about the messages that don't appear in a digest until the following week? Do they show as approved at the same time as the others that are in the first digest or not until later.
I am still trying to figure that out, as I still need to know exactly when the list admin has approved messages. The vette log shows a lot of  Refused posting labeled with the list name, but all the held message approved messages does not contain information on which list the message was approved, so I can't use the vette log to determine when messages on the list was approved.

But I wonder why the smtp log contains so many entries postings to exactly 1209 recipients on the list, even the list has 1222 normal members and 6493 digest members. Why only 6 times 1209. And are the 1209 digest members while the 6 recips could be regular members or something?

   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 44 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME at LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 1 recips, completed in 0.098 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME at LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME at LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME at LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME at LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME at LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME at LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530 at pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530 at pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530 at pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530 at pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530 at pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530 at pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds
   /var/log/mailman/post Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) post to LISTNAME from someone at example.com, size=5675, message-id=<6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530 at pobox.engr.local>, success

Where can I see which messages was contained in which digests and when? My problem is that I don't seem to be able to tell whether the list admin is right or not. Not that I doubt his statement, but I really like to be able to tell when what happens.

Regards, Henrik Rasmussen