[Mailman-Users] how to discard bounced messages?

[Danil Smirnov]

Dear Mark!

For me it sounds more attractive to remove the aliases for
LISTNAME-request and LISTNAME-join to avoid any processor load.

May be you can advice to me how could I do that with qmail MTA software
installed?...

I've found .qmail-LISTNAME-join and .qmail-LISTNAME-request
files with the following content (accordingly):

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join agencies
|/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request agencies

But it seems to me that I have to remove aliases from some other place...

Thank you...

Danil

2009/4/16 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>

> Danil Smirnov wrote:
> >
> >2009/4/16 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
> >
> >>
> >> You need to individually mark each request "discard" in the admindb
> >> interface and "Submit All Data". There is no bulk removal method or
> >> tool for subscription requests. You need to do this often enough to
> >> prevent the number of outstanding requests from growing so large that
> >> the admindb interface times out before loading the page.
> >
> >
> >But I've got 1 thousand spammer`s request in 3 days!!! May be I can just
> >switch off subscription service at all? My list is announcement list so I
> >need no subscription service... Please advice how can I do that...
>
>
> I suspect what is happening is that spammers are not deliberately
> trying to subscribe in order to spam your list. Rather, I think that
> spammers are just spamming your LISTNAME-subscribe and LISTNAME-join
> addresses resulting in subscription requests.
>
> There are a few things you can do.
>
> You can just periodically discard all requests by removing the
> lists/LISTNAME/request.pck file.
>
> You can modify cron/checkdbs [1] to apply max_days_to_hold to subscribe
> requests as well as messages.
>
> Depending on your MTA, you can just remove the aliases for
> LISTNAME-request and LISTNAME-join. This is probably best as it will
> return a failure to the spammer at SMTP time
>
> [1] To modify cron/checkdbs, add the line
>
>    heldmsgs.extend(mlist.GetSubscriptionIds())
>
> to the definition
>
> def auto_discard(mlist):
>    # Discard old held messages
>    discard_count = 0
>    expire = mlist.max_days_to_hold * 86400 # days
>    heldmsgs = mlist.GetHeldMessageIds()
>    if expire and len(heldmsgs):
>        for id in heldmsgs:
>            if now - mlist.GetRecord(id)[0] > expire:
>                mlist.HandleRequest(id, mm_cfg.DISCARD)
>                discard_count += 1
>        mlist.Save()
>    return discard_count
>
> so it becomes
>
> def auto_discard(mlist):
>    # Discard old held messages
>    discard_count = 0
>    expire = mlist.max_days_to_hold * 86400 # days
>    heldmsgs = mlist.GetHeldMessageIds()
>    heldmsgs.extend(mlist.GetSubscriptionIds())
>    if expire and len(heldmsgs):
>        for id in heldmsgs:
>            if now - mlist.GetRecord(id)[0] > expire:
>                mlist.HandleRequest(id, mm_cfg.DISCARD)
>                discard_count += 1
>        mlist.Save()
>    return discard_count
>
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
>
>