[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing doesn't work

[Andre Tann]

Hello Mark,

Mark Sapiro, Freitag, 3. März 2006 00:02: 

> Are you sure? Are there no entries at all in the 'bounce' log
> other than the 'unrecognized' ones.

Thanks for that hint. I was looking in /var/log/... , but there were 
no log entries from mailman. Now I know better where to look.

And yes, you are right: there are of course other entries than the 
unrecognized ones. But the unrecognized ones make half of the log 
entries.



> Since you already have enabled full personalization for the list,
> you can at no extra cost set
>
> VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
>
> in mm_cfg.py to enhance bounce recognition.

I have already thought about this. But I was not sure if this might 
be a problem to my postfix MTA. I have no idea if my postfix can 
handle these address types.



> Are the bounce notices returned as unrecognized in English? Not
> the text from Mailman which is in your list language, but the
> actual attached bounce.
>
> If you forward one or more of the actual bounce notices, we can
> see what the recognition issue is and update the bounce
> recognizers if necessary. Without the intact actual bounce, we
> can't tell you anything.

OK, I attach one bounce here, Maybe you can see what mailman doesn't 
like about it. For me it is very clear that it is the 
severin.xxx at t-online.de address which is bouncing.

Thanks for your help!
AT




Return-Path: <email at mydomain.de>
X-Original-To: newsletter-bounces at mydomain.de
Delivered-To: newsletter-bounces at mydomain.de
Received: by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail 
service, from userid 1004)
	id AD5AC100A954; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:36 +0100 (CET)
X-Original-To: email at localhost.mydomain.de
Delivered-To: email at localhost.mydomain.de
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail service) with 
ESMTP id B9B44100BF1B
	for <email at localhost.mydomain.de>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:34 +0100 
(CET)
Received: from mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (mydomain.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id 32002-08 for <email at localhost.mydomain.de>;
 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:33 +0100 (CET)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail service) with 
ESMTP id A093B100A955
	for <email at localhost>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:33 +0100 (CET)
Delivery-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:20:00 +0100
Received-SPF: none (mxeu17: 212.227.126.240 is neither permitted nor 
denied by domain of mout-bounce.kundenserver.de) 
client-ip=212.227.126.240; 
envelope-from=postmaster at mout-bounce.kundenserver.de; 
helo=mout-bounce.kundenserver.de;
Received: from pop.1und1.com [212.227.15.161]
	by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.5.2)
	for email at localhost (single-drop); Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:33 +0100 
(CET)
Received: from [212.227.126.240] (helo=mout-bounce.kundenserver.de)
	by mx.kundenserver.de (node=mxeu17) with ESMTP (Nemesis),
	id 0MKxIC-1FE8W00flx-0005g9 for newsletter-bounces at mydomain.de; 
Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:20:00 +0100
Received: from mout by mouteu2.kundenserver.de id 
0MKvEC-1FE8V20Bkm-00025n;
 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:19:00 +0100
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:19:00 +0100
From: Mail Delivery System <mailer-daemon at kundenserver.de>
To: newsletter-bounces at mydomain.de
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Message-Id: <0MKvEC-1FE8V20Bkm-00025n at mouteu2.kundenserver.de>
X-Original-Id: 0ML25U-1FE8V12M9j-0006lD
Envelope-To: newsletter-bounces at mydomain.de
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mydomain.de

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of
its recipients. The following addresses failed:

  <severin.XXX at t-online.de>

SMTP error from remote server after RCPT command:
host mailin02.sul.t-online.de[194.25.134.9]:
550 user unknown


--- The header of the original message is following. ---

Received: from [84.154.27.78] (helo=mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan)
	by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis),
	id 0ML25U-1FE8V12M9j-0006lD; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:59 +0100
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail service) with 
ESMTP id EA2CD100A954
	for <severin.XXX at t-online.de>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:58 +0100 
(CET)
Received: from mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (mydomain.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id 31861-10 for <severin.XXX at t-online.de>;
 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:58 +0100 (CET)
Received: from mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail service) with 
ESMTP id BB6BD100A308
	for <severin.XXX at t-online.de>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:58 +0100 
(CET)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Subject: 
=?iso-8859-1?q?Sie_haben_die_Mailingliste_=22newsletter=22_ab?=
 =?iso-8859-1?q?bestellt?=
From: newsletter-bounces at mydomain.de
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1141147137.31940.newsletter at mydomain.de>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:57 +0100
Precedence: bulk
X-BeenThere: newsletter at mydomain.de
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6
List-Id: newsletter <newsletter.mydomain.de>
X-List-Administrivia: yes
To: severin.XXX at t-online.de
Sender: newsletter-bounces at mydomain.de
Errors-To: newsletter-bounces at mydomain.de
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mydomain.de
X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse at kundenserver.de 
login:50f36a15497f230366e1019f5ac05f49
-- 
Andre Tann