[Mailman-Users] Umbrella List

[Mark Sapiro]

Robert Haack wrote:

>I have an umbrella list call all_unit_sec setup with a membership of 5 
>other lists.  Also I've added Jim Tittsler patch to allow users on 
>another list to post to this list as well as other lists.  My problem is 
>that anybody that when a post is sent to this list or any other lists 
>the message never goes through, or actually it's like the message never 
>arrives.

Are you saying that no lists are working? If so, some or all of your
qrunners may have stopped again. If so, this recurring problem may be
related to a Mailman 2.1.5/Python 2.4 incompatability issue. See
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-April/044162.html
and
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-April/043937.html
and
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-March/043640.html

>If I include actual peoples email addresses those seem to go 
>through even if I include the all_unit_sec list.  The only other thing I 
>can think that could be causing some problems is that we didn't want 
>users to be able to subscribe, unsubscribe to any lists so when I added 
>the list names to the aliases file I commented out so my aliases file 
>looks something like this:
>
>## all_unit_sec mailing list
>all_unit_sec:              "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post all_unit_sec"
>all_unit_sec-admin:        "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman admin all_unit_sec"
>all_unit_sec-bounces:      "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman bounces all_unit_sec"
>all_unit_sec-owner:        "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner all_unit_sec"
>#all_unit_sec-confirm:      "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman confirm 
>all_unit_sec"
>#all_unit_sec-join:         "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman join all_unit_sec"
>#all_unit_sec-leave:        "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman leave all_unit_sec"
>#all_unit_sec-request:      "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman request 
>all_unit_sec"
>#all_unit_sec-subscribe:    "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe 
>all_unit_sec"
>#all_unit_sec-unsubscribe:  "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe 
>all_unit_sec"
>
>I done this on other lists and it's not a problem

And it shouldn't be here.

>so the only 
>correlation I can think of is the fact that it's an umbrella list.  Does 
>anybody have any ideas as to what could be going on here?  If so I would 
>appreciate some ideas, I need to get this working.

Issues with umbrella lists tend to be along the lines of "people on
more than one sub list get multiple copies" and "posts don't go
through because of membership issues". The latter might be the case
here if the various lists' generic_nonmember_action is Discard, but
there should be entries in the 'vette' log. Also, you could set the
actions to Hold temporarily to see if the posts get held.

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