[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1 list creation

[Jon Carnes]

An alternative way to eliminate the handling of aliases is to move to
Postfix and use the Mailman/Postfix integration.  Now that is a win-win
situation.

You can actually mimic this integration with Sendmail if you use a cron
script (or modify the new-list app to include the script commands), to
run genaliases and pump the output to a local file which you then hash
via newaliases:
  ~mailman/data/aliases
  ~malman/data/aliases.db  

After that you simply edit /etc/sendmail.cf to look at both alias files:
  /etc/aliases, and
  ~mailman/data/aliases

Hope this helps someone - Jon Carnes (reformed Sendmail junkie)

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On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 05:03, Richard Barrett wrote:
> At 21:51 29/01/2003, Jon Carnes wrote:
> >If you can get shell access to the server you can use the
> >~mailman/bin/genaliases command to generate the aliases for your created
> >lists.  You could simply redirect the output of that command into a
> >local aliases file and then include that aliases file in your MTA's list
> >of aliases that it checks.
> >
> >Jon Carnes
> >
> 
> If the MTA is sendmail then there is an option of using a sendmail mailer 
> to deliver to Mailman, if the only mail aliases on the server are the small 
> number of standard local aliases, e.g. postmaster, and those for Mailman 
> lists. If the machine is also hosting aliases for individual users then 
> forget I posted this.
> 
> MM 2.1 has the mm-handler contrib which is a sendmail mailer implemented in 
> Perl. There is also a Python implementation available which I have posted 
> as MM patch #644810 on sourceforge. Note that the Perl contrib isn't 
> entirely bullet-proof, unless the author has recently fixed an issue I 
> raised a while back.
> 
> Using these sendmail mailers can completely eliminate maintenance of mail 
> aliases on a list server. Create the list with MM through the web GUI and 
> its ready to go. The downside is some hassle getting sendmail setup right 
> and I wouldn't rate this as a job for a sendmail novice unless he is a 
> persistent one like me. But once that is done, no alias maintenance hassle.
> 
> I started out using the Perl contrib (originally with my own modifications 
> to work with MM 2.0.13 rather than 2.1) but now use the Python version on a 
> dedicated list server machine and its backup, which are currently hosting 
> over 450 fairly lightly loaded lists. The list population is fairly dynamic 
> and the use of the sendmail mailer works well for me.
> 
> >On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 06:24, Will Nordmeyer wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm using mailman 2.1 on a Cobalt RAQ3 and trying to use the web
> > > interface to create a list.
> > >
> > > It creates the list, but doesn't add any entries to either the aliases
> > > file or the virtusertable.  It also doesn't provide a list of what
> > > entries need to be added.
> > >
> > > It doesn't seem that I have everything configured right but don't see
> > > anything in the INSTALL doc about the settings.
> > >
> > > Can someone help please?
> 
>