[Mailman-Users] Catholic Information Network (CIN) Moderators List flooded with blank emails

[Jon Carnes]

Who is defined as cinjub-owner at www.cin.org.  Look at the aliasing and find
out everyone who this email goes to and then see if any of those folks have
any forwards or other aliasing for their addresses.
 Sender:  cinjub-owner at www.cin.org
 Errors-To: cinjub-owner at www.cin.org

There is nothing obvious in the single header.  The mail originates from
margaret.mollerus.org which is running a beta version of Sendmail:
(8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19).  Are all the mails from
margaret.mollerus.org?

If that doesn't help, could you send a few more different headers?  I'll
look for some patterns.

Jon Carnes
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity (SOLT)
  To: Jon Carnes
  Cc: mailman-users at python.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Catholic Information Network (CIN) Moderators
List flooded with blank emails


  Here are one of the headers of blank email.  Fr. Gant
  Received:
                    from vm5-ext.prodigy.net ([127.0.0.1]) by vm5-wfldad
with ESMTP; Mon, 1 Oct 2001
                    15:59:54 -0400
           Received:
                    from margaret.mollerus.org
(24.158.17.115.dul.nc.chartermi.net [24.158.17.115]) by
                    vm5-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
f91JxD983938 for <rgant at flash.net>;
                    Mon, 1 Oct 2001 15:59:13 -0400
           Received:
                    from 24.158.17.115.dul.nc.chartermi.net
(IDENT:mailman at localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
                    margaret.mollerus.org (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) with
ESMTP id f91Jx36E010579; Mon,
                    1 Oct 2001 14:59:03 -0500
               Date:
                    Mon, 1 Oct 2001 14:59:03 -0500
               From:
                    cinjub-admin at www.cin.org
         Message-ID:
                    <200110011959.f91Jx36E010579 at margaret.mollerus.org>
             Sender:
                    cinjub-owner at www.cin.org
           Errors-To:
                    cinjub-owner at www.cin.org
        X-Beenthere:
                    cinjub at www.cin.org
   X-Mailman-Version:
                    2.0.5
         Precedence:
                    bulk
           List-Help:
                    <mailto:cinjub-request at www.cin.org?subject=help>
            List-Post:
                    <mailto:cinjub at www.cin.org>
       List-Subscribe:
                    <http://www.cin.org/mailman/listinfo/cinjub>,
                    <mailto:cinjub-request at www.cin.org?subject=subscribe>
             List-Id:
                    CIN Jubilee 2000--Catholic News Around the World
<cinjub.www.cin.org>
     List-Unsubscribe:
                    <http://www.cin.org/mailman/listinfo/cinjub>,
                    <mailto:cinjub-request at www.cin.org?subject=unsubscribe>
         List-Archive:
                    <http://www.cin.org/archives/cinjub/>
     X-Virus-Scanned:
                    by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/)
      X-Mozilla-Status:
                    8001
     X-Mozilla-Status2:
                    00000000
            X-UIDL:
                    8FD2E494E80C9B03179B40A419892382



  Jon Carnes wrote:

    I agree with Greg: "Yikes!"
    This is not a characteristic of Mailman, but sounds more like an MTA
    problem.  You may have a mail loop setup somewhere in your alias or
redirect
    files.
    If you could forward some of the headers to us, we could trace the mail
for
    you and give better input as to where the problem may lay.
    Of course the best place to look is in your log files...

    Jon Carnes
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Greg Ward" <gward at mems-exchange.org>
    To: "Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity (SOLT)"
<rgant at flash.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:03 AM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Catholic Information Network (CIN)
Moderators
    List flooded with blank emails

    > On 02 October 2001, Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity
(SOLT)
    said:
    > > Since the Catholic Information Network (CIN) changed to the Mailman
    > > program yesterday, our moderators' list (which has 40 to 50
    > > moderators) is flooded with blank emails.
    >
    > Yikes!
    >
    > The first thing I would do is start tailing log files to try and
    > identify a culprit.  Mailman's logs are in ~mailman/logs; I would
    >   tail -f post smtp smtp-failure qrunner
    > for a start.  (Umm, this assumes GNU tail -- older, more primitive
    > Unices are not as capable.  I'm assuming you know something about
    > administering a Unix system, otherwise you probably shouldn't be using
    > Mailman.)
    >
    > Of course, your MTA is also a factor.  Which MTA are you using,
anyways?
    > Whatever, I'm presuming you know where its logs are -- go tail them,
    > too.
    >
    > Or hell, just *look* at the logs from overnight, when your poor
    > moderators were getting 100s of messages.  Old info is better than no
    > info.
    >
    >         Greg
    > --
    > Greg Ward - software developer                gward at mems-exchange.org
    > MEMS Exchange                            http://www.mems-exchange.org
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------
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