[Mailman-Users] MailMan/VirtualHosts/Postfix
Ryan Creasey
ryan at p11.com
Sat Aug 25 01:24:49 CEST 2001
Heh, no problem... I seriously spent a whole week trying to get this to
work right on my fbsd box; I know how fusterating this can be. :)
Hrm, maybe I misunderstood what you were asking. Thinking about it, I
know what the problem is as well. Have you set the cron processes up
for mailman? It's kind of an obscure place to mention it, but in the
INSTALL document, under item '4. Final system set-up', there's a part
that explains your problem:
- IMPERATIVE! IMPORTANT! DO THIS! YOU'LL BE SORRY IF YOU DON'T!
Set up the crontab entries. Mailman runs a number of cron jobs
for its basic functionality. You need to be user `mailman' (or
whatever you specified as --with-ownername) to perform this
step. Add $prefix/cron/crontab.in as a crontab entry by
executing these commands:
% su - mailman
% cd $prefix/cron
% crontab crontab.in
I think that should solve your problem. It sounds like the mail is
being sent to the list, but mailman is deciding to not deliver it. If
this isn't the case, try doing a 'tail -f /var/log/maillog' (or your
equivalent log file) and try sending to the list. You should see
something similar to this:
Aug 24 16:21:18 khyron postfix/cleanup[97755]: 3C53245C:
message-id=<001801c12cf3$839c05c0$0701a8c0 at rcreasey01>
Aug 24 16:21:18 khyron postfix/qmgr[94409]: 3C53245C:
from=<kaneda at housekurita.net>, size=854, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Aug 24 16:21:18 khyron postfix/smtpd[97754]: disconnect from
unknown[151.199.86.100]
Aug 24 16:21:18 khyron postfix/local[97760]: 3C53245C:
to=<dcms at khyron.p11.com>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent
("|/home/mail/mailman/mail/wrapper post dcms")
Yes? Well then your list is receiving the messages fine. If your crons
are setup correctly, just keep watching your maillog and eventually you
should see this:
Aug 24 16:22:02 khyron postfix/smtpd[97754]: connect from
localhost[127.0.0.1]
Aug 24 16:22:02 khyron postfix/qmgr[94409]: 18F4745E:
from=<dcms-admin at housekurita.net>, size=2004, nrcpt=19 (queue active)
Aug 24 16:22:02 khyron postfix/smtpd[97754]: 47877460:
client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
Aug 24 16:22:02 khyron postfix/cleanup[97755]: 47877460:
message-id=<001801c12cf3$839c05c0$0701a8c0 at rcreasey01>
Aug 24 16:22:02 khyron postfix/smtpd[97754]: disconnect from
localhost[127.0.0.1]
Aug 24 16:22:02 khyron postfix/qmgr[94409]: 47877460:
from=<dcms-admin at housekurita.net>, size=2025, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Aug 24 16:22:02 khyron postfix/smtp[97791]: E01E145C:
to=<kaneda at housekurita.net>, relay=mta2.nts.uci.edu[128.200.220.4],
delay=1, status=sent (250 2.0.0 f7ONKDT18926 Message accepted for
delivery)
If you don't see the response mail from 'list-admin at domain.com' soon,
then it's your crons.
Ryan C. Creasey
Network Engineer
p11creative
-----Original Message-----
From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
[mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Baldwin
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 3:53 PM
To: Ryan Creasey; mailman-users at python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] MailMan/VirtualHosts/Postfix
Wow!! What a great reply. I don't understand how question 3 would be
answered in the admin interface though? When I post to the list...
shouldn't a message automatically be sent to all subscribers? Currently
if
subscribers post to the list.. the message never appears.. could you
give
me a little more guidance on this question?
But most importantly "Thank You" for the great answer... I think thats
got
to be one of the most detailed answers I've ever received off of a
list..
it was great..
Thanks
Jeff
--On Friday, August 24, 2001 3:48 PM -0700 Ryan Creasey <ryan at p11.com>
wrote:
> I just recently set mailman up on my company's mailserver running
> postfix and this is how I did it:
>
> Create an alias file in the mailman install directory as user
> 'mailman'. I named mine 'mm.aliases' for simplicity:
>
> root at khyron.p11.com:/home/mail/mailman# head mm.aliases
> ## dcms mailing list
> ## created: 10-Aug-2001 root
> dcms: "|/home/mail/mailman/mail/wrapper post dcms"
> dcms-admin: "|/home/mail/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner
> dcms"
> dcms-request: "|/home/mail/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd
dcms"
> dcms-owner: dcms-admin
>
> Okay, then as user 'mailman', run postalias on the mm.aliases file,
> creating a mm.aliases.db file. Exit as user mailman and open your
> postfix main.cf file. Then add a line to your alias_maps variable
> like
> so:
>
> root at khyron.p11.com:/etc/postfix# cat main.cf | grep mm.aliases
> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/home/mail/mailman/mm.aliases
>
> Reload postfix. Now, so far you have created a mailing list that
> responds to list at machine.domain.com. In my case, I have setup the
> list 'dcms at khyron.p11.com'. However, I want this list to belong to
> the vhost 'housekurita.net'. So... I keep a virtual file for each
> domain, all I need to do is setup the correct pointers:
>
> root at khyron.p11.com:/etc/postfix# cat v_housekurita.net | grep dcms
> dcms at housekurita.net dcms at khyron.p11.com
> dcms-admin at housekurita.net dcms-admin at khyron.p11.com
> dcms-request at housekurita.net dcms-request at khyron.p11.com
> dcms-owner at housekurita.net dcms-owner at khyron.p11.com
>
> Refresh the virtual file by issuing 'postmap <virtual file>' and then
> re-reload postfix: 'postfix reload'.
>
> Once your list is setup and before you add any users, go to your admin
> interface for the list you've just created and change the 'host_name'
> option for the list over to your virtual host. In my case, host_name
> becomes 'housekurita.net'. This allows mailman to send mail out as
> 'dcms-admin at housekurita.net' and when a user sends to the list, it
> hits your virtual file, forwards it to the local machine mail, etc.
>
> That should answer question 1, as for 2 and 3... Those can be solved
> by looking over some of the options in the admin interface.
>
> Hope that helps... :)
>
> Ryan C. Creasey
> Network Engineer
> p11creative
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
> [mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Baldwin
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 3:07 PM
> To: mailman-users at python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] MailMan/VirtualHosts/Postfix
>
>
> Hello All -
>
> I've been troubleshooting this for two days straight and cant seem to
> figure it out.. any help at all would be greatly appreciated. I can't
> get MailMan to work w/ postfix and virtual domains.. below is a
> detailed
> description of what I am running into. Hope you can help.
>
> System Information
> -------------------
>
> MTA = Postfix
> No sites running on machines FQDN all Virtual Hosts
> MailMan version 2.0.6
>
> Install Info
> ----------------
> First of all I follow the setup instructions and give one of my
> virtual hosts all the necessary privelages to run mailman.. then I
>
> [root at mill96 mailman]# bin/newlist
> Enter the name of the list: Tester
> Enter the email of the person running the list: jeff_baldwin at unc.edu
> Initial tester password: Entry for aliases file:
>
> ## tester mailing list
> ## created: 24-Aug-2001 baldwinj
> tester: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post tester"
> tester-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner
tester"
> tester-request: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd tester"
> tester-owner: tester-admin
>
> Hit enter to continue with tester owner notification...
>
> **OK, so far soo good.
>
> I get an e-mail at the address listed above.. stating that the list
> has been created at the FQDN of the machine.. NOT the virtual host
> that I gave permissions to this dir. Thats ok, I just make a couple
> changes in the admin interface to ref. the virtual host. Users can
> now go to the "virtual
> host" to the mailman area and subscribe to the list.
>
> When a user subscribes... he gets the "are you sure" message in their
> inbox.. so far so good.. when they reply to this message to confirm..
> they never get a confirmation.. I looked and seen that their request
> was pending
> so I added them manuall... is there no way for mailman to automate the
> addition of users?
>
> I went ahead and added the users manually.. but now when they post a
> message to the specified e-mail address listname at virtualhost.org no
> one ever sees the message.. it just goes off never to be seen again.
>
> Here are copies of my Postfix Virtual and Aliases files..
>
> /etc/postfix/aliases
>
> <--snip-->
> #MailMan Owners
> mailman: jeff_baldwin at unc.edu
> mailman-owner: mailman
>
> ## engarde mailing list
> ## created: 24-Aug-2001 baldwinj
> engarde: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post engarde"
> engarde-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner
engarde"
> engarde-request: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd engarde"
> engarde-owner: engarde-admin
> <--snip-->
>
> /etc/postfix/virtual
>
> mill92.cep.unc.edu VIRTUALDOMAIN
>
> engarde at mill92.cep.unc.edu
list-engarde-mill92.cep.unc.edu
> engarde-admin at mill92.cep.unc.edu
list-engarde-mill92.cep.unc.edu
> engarde-request at mill92.cep.unc.edu
list-engarde-mill92.cep.unc.edu
> engarde-owner at mill92.cep.unc.edu
list-engarde-mill92.cep.unc.edu
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.. I guess my questions are....
>
> 1. Is there no way to specify a virtual host when creating a list 2.
> Is there a way to automate the adding of users.. instead of it being
> "pending" till I do it manuall?
>
> 3. Why can't anyone see the e-mail that is being sent to the list
> addy?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> ==================================================
> Jeff Baldwin
> Computer Consultant II
> University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
>
> Phone: (919) 966-0096
> Fax: (919) 966-0042
> E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc.edu
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