[Mailman-Developers] Mailman Suite beta: what's left?

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Ralf Hildebrandt writes:

 > > Where else do you expect to find this information, so we can put it
 > > there?
 > 
 > I must admin I haven't tried installing yet, mainly because I didn't
 > know how to "go back" in case of problems.

Repeating what I already wrote for completeness here: Migrating and
then going back all at once is not necessary.  You can migrate bit by
bit, although it may require a little bit of manual fiddling if you
get to the point of installing both on a production server.  By
"little bit" I mean installing in {/usr,/var}/lib/mailman3 instead of
{/usr,/var}/lib/mailman where Mailman 2 probably lives.

I have to admit I haven't installed into one of the standard
hierarchies yet; I run my Mailman 3 lists (all test or
non-mission-critical) out of a Python virtualenv in my home directory.

Re installing betas from source:

I wish I could say, "oh, just try it, you'll like it", but building
from source isn't as automatic as I'd like.  It's not a huge extra
effort (ask here), and I have had it install (a few commits back) with
just "bzr clone ...; python bootstrap.py".  I just prefer a reliable,
completely turnkey package when recommending to "pure" beta testers,
and it's not quite that yet.

If you do try it, be warned that a couple of tests may infloop (for
reasons unknown), although only under some circumstances.


Steve