[Mailman-Developers] 3.0.0b1 fails bootstrap.py on Mountain Lion

[Richard Wackerbarth]

Greg,

First, let me address your choice of versions. Although the mail handling part of MM3 seems to be in pretty good shape, the Web UI still has quite a bit that hasn't been "fleshed out".  Traffic volume is not really a concern. If anything, the high traffic installations might be more inclined to prefer the MM3 architecture.

Depending on how much you need the Web UI, you may prefer to stick with MM2 (unless you would like to help us finish parts of the Postorius interface).

As for "recreating" my work-around, I will provide additional details in response to the other sub-thread of this discussion.

- Richard "Wacky" Wackerbarth

On Sep 6, 2012, at 10:54 PM, G B wrote:

> Hey Richard—
> 
> How hard would it be to recreate your solution?  Could I bumble my way through it with no Mailman, no Zope, and limited Python experience?
> 
> Maybe the first question I should ask is whether I should be trying the beta, or if I should stick to the 2.x release.  I chose the beta to start with because I don't expect this to be a high traffic system and I'd hoped to gain the benefit of the new web interface and save the trouble of updating from 2->3 later.
> 
> Thanks—
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Sep 6, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Richard Wackerbarth <richard at NFSNet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Barry,
>> 
>> I have 10.7 and, today, I had the same problem.
>> 
>> Yesterday, I was able to set things up without any problems.
>> 
>> I think that the difference is that z3c.recipe.tag has bumped the version number to 0.5 but that the distribution is missing one of its files.
>> 
>> By manually downloading the package, I was able to fake the missing CHANGES.txt file and pre-install the module.
>> 
>> After that, the install worked just fine.
>> 
>> The Postorius install still needs some additional tweaking to make it work "out of the box", but it is progressing.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sep 06, 2012, at 11:11 AM, G B wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I initially posted this to mailman-users, but it was suggested that this
>>>> would be a better list.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm installing Mailman for the first time, and chose to try the beta.  I'm
>>>> installing on a Mountain Lion Server, that was cleanly installed.  I've since
>>>> updated the OS to 10.8.1
>>>> 
>>>> I got as far as 'python bootstrap.py' and it failed immediately with the
>>>> following traceback:
>>> 
>>> I don't have OS X 10.8 yet, but I tried it on my 10.6.8 machine, using
>>> MacPorts' Python 2.7.
>>> 
>>> I was able to bootstrap, but bin/buildout failed downloading one of the zc
>>> recipes.  I don't have much in /opt/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages and I
>>> didn't spend much time debugging the problem.
>>> 
>>> However, I was able to create a virtualenv and do a `python setup.py install`
>>> into that virtualenv just fine.  I tested with `mailman info` but didn't try
>>> to much else.
>>> 
>>> I'm guessing it's something weird with 10.8's built-in Python 2.7.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Barry
>>> 
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