[Mailman-Developers] monthly password reminder bounce reaction

[Patrick Ben Koetter]

* Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>:
> Patrick Ben Koetter wrote:
> 
> >We, the Python.org postmasters, received about 2.200 bounces at Mailman day
> >from monthly password reminders that did not reach the recipient.
> >
> >Ralf said such bounces do not increase a mailing list members bounce score.
> >Is this correct? If it is, can we add such behaviour to the MM3 feature list?
> 
> 
> The reminders go away in Mailman 3.0 as does the site list, so the
> problem goes away.

Fine.

> See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/aICB> for a description of the
> issues and why this is happening.
> 
> I agree that 2200 bounces is a huge number to deal with manually. I'm
> willing to work with you to find a way to deal with these
> programmatically if you wish.

Thanks for the offer. Ralf already took care of it and he's not the kind of
guy to use his hands if a script can do it. I haven't asked, but I guess he
used some awk magic...


> Just incrementing the bounce score for such a user on all lists of
> which she is a member will not work, because as the FAQ notes, her
> list delivery is probably disabled so the only bounces are the
> password reminder, and likely, last month's bounce is stale when this
> one arrives.
> 
> Removing the member from all lists is often the right thing, but
> consider a member who is actually active on lists, but bounces
> un-whitelisted mail and forgets to whitelist the site list. Then the
> password reminder bounces and he is removed from all lists.

Yes, I understand that very well. My mail was more about "doing the right
thing" than about what exactly should be done.

Since the cause will be removed the problem should be gone in MM3.

p at rick

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