[Mailman-Developers] Problem with Mailman FAQ Wizard

Fri Dec 2 10:28:14 CET 2005

At 10:33 PM -0800 2005-12-01, Mark Sapiro wrote:

>  Sorry to post this to the whole list, but I don't know what group of
>  people can actually make this needed change.

	Best bet would probably be to send this to webmaster at python.org 
and maybe a copy to pydotorg at python.org.  I've complained about it in 
the past, but have not been able to convince people that this is an 
important issue to get resolved.

	I'll leave the rest of your message intact.

>  Mailman's FAQ wizard appears to be using the faqconf.py default
>  definition of PROLOGUE, namely
>
>  PROLOGUE = '''
>  <HTML>
>  <HEAD>
>  <TITLE>%(title)s</TITLE>
>  </HEAD>
>
>  <BODY BACKGROUND="http://www.python.org/pics/RedShort.gif"
>        BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF"
>        TEXT="#000000"
>        LINK="#AA0000"
>        VLINK="#906A6A">
>  <H1>%(title)s</H1>
>  '''
>
>  There is a problem with this discussed below. I believe the appropriate
>  thing to do is override this in faqcust.py with
>
>  PROLOGUE = '''
>  <HTML>
>  <HEAD>
>  <TITLE>%(title)s</TITLE>
>  </HEAD>
>
>  <BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF"
>        TEXT="#000000"
>        LINK="#AA0000"
>        VLINK="#906A6A">
>  <H1>%(title)s</H1>
>  '''
>
>  The issue is that "http://www.python.org/pics/RedShort.gif" is a white
>  rectangle, 2000 pixels wide by 8 pixels high with a 4 pixels wide by 3
>  pixels high red rectangle in it's upper left corner.
>
>  Some browsers, e.g. MSIE 6.0 and Netscape 7.2 on MS Windows and MSIE
>  5.2 on Mac OS X repeat the background in 8 pixel high strips, thus
>  giving a red 'gear tooth' pattern down the left side of the page. I
>  think this is distracting, but OK.
>
>  Other browsers such as Netscape 8.0.4 in both IE and Firefox modes on
>  MS Windows display just a plain white background. I think this is best.
>
>  Still other browsers such as Netscape 7.1 and Safari 1.3.1 on Mac OS X
>  render the background with a thin, maybe 1 pixel high black space or
>  border between each repetition of the background. This gives the
>  appearance of a background of thin, horizontal, black lines spaced
>  about 8 or 9 pixels apart which makes the text very difficult to read.
>
>  I think we should make the change above which will give a plain white
>  background in all browsers, which I think is the most pleasing
>  rendition anyway.
>
>  --
>  Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>       Any clod can have the facts;
>  San Francisco Bay Area, California    having opinions is an art. -
>                                        C. McCabe, The Fearless Spectator
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