[Mailman-Developers] Opening up a few can o' worms here...

[Barry A. Warsaw]

>>>>> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com> writes:

    CVR> Oh, by the way, there's few ways guaranteed to PISS ME OFF
    CVR> more than someone who signs up for a mailing list, and then
    CVR> starts bouncing selected pieces of the mail because of
    CVR> filtering systems. Which usually happens because their admin
    CVR> installs stupid filters... (I don't care if you throw them
    CVR> away, but I hate showing up in the morning to 50 bounce
    CVR> messages because of some flakey content filter...)

Bouncing them to the actual errors address is one thing, but bouncing
them to the author of the email is the worst offense.  OTOH, I have no
problem with Mailman being aggressive in disabling such offenders.

    CVR> Right now, for instance, one of the lists at apple is having
    CVR> a discussion about coding problems. And the user starting it
    CVR> served up a code fragment that included:

    |     int xxx = 0
    |     [...]

    CVR> You can imagine the chaos that ensues among the STUPID IS
    CVR> FILTER IDIOTS who do overly simplistic filtering and assume
    CVR> it actually does something useful.

    CVR> But I'm not bitter.

    CVR> (and I'll be curious to see just how many bounces that I or
    CVR> barry see from THAT simple notation.....)

I'm actually quite surprised that we don't see more of those,
especially on the python-checkins list, given Guido's prediliction for
comment markers (uppercase tres-equis).  OTOH, I seem to remember our
Windows dude got a lot of those shunted off into his spam folder
before he taught it to ignore those.

    >> Stipulated, but they're 80-90% of the market.  I think even
    >> skewing for "non-Windoze users send more mail, you would still
    >> be about 70%, intuitively.

    CVR> We're working on that (a quiet voice whispers: "but a f---ing
    CVR> mac already!  It has unix inside for all you geeks, too!")

OT: Chuq will be so proud of me.  I'm Windows free (tm) and my two
Linux boxes sit right next to my two G4 towers.  OSX rules and if
Cubase ever /finally/ releases SX for MacOSX I won't go back (yes, I
know Apple just bought Emagic -- two weeks after I flipped a coin and
took the plunge off the other side. ;).

-Barry