At 12:15 -0500 2/21/2002, Dale Newfield wrote: >The two I marked with (****) above are not obfuscation schemes. >They involve not the obfuscation of information, but rather it's removal. Oh, good...another debating point. Is removal the limiting case of obfuscation, or something different in kind? ;-) --John -- John Baxter jwblist@olympus.net Port Ludlow, WA, USA