[Mailman-Developers] Splitting -owner and -admin handling
Dan Mick
Dan Mick <dmick@utopia.West.Sun.COM>
Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT)
I like 2) better, as anything that helps bounce processing be
more efficient is a big win for low-end machines, especially if
it can avoid the relatively-huge Python startup time.
> Mail destined for the -owner and -admin addresses for a list are
> handled differently because -admin mail flows through the bounce
> detector, and only if that fails is it forwarded on to the list
> owners. Mail for -owner goes directly to the list owners.
>
> For historical reasons, Mailman conflates these two addresses by
> having the same script (mailowner) deal with both. In MM2.0.5, I
> parsed the incoming message to see if it was destined for -admin or
> -owner, and I added an appropriate bit message metadata before queuing
> the message.
>
> In MM2.1, I don't parse the message in mailowner. This has the
> advantage of reducing the amount of time the MTA program has to
> consume, which I think is a good thing. The problem is that the
> determination of -owner vs. -admin doesn't happen until the qrunner
> processes the message. If I want to split bounce processing into a
> separate queue, the best place to do this is as early as possible,
> i.e. in the MTA program script.
>
> There are two options:
>
> 1) Parse the message in mailowner, or at the very least, look for the
> To: field to see if it was destined for -owner or -admin, and then
> put the message in the proper queue. We can mitigate the parsing
> costs by storing the message as a pickle instead of plain text, so
> the qrunner slurping messages out of the queue doesn't need to
> reparse it. Pros: backwards compatibility with existing alias
> files. Cons: mailowner has to do more work, has a higher
> opportunity for uncaught exceptions (exposed as MTA bounces), and
> can be fooled by Bcc's.
>
> 2) Add a new script, maybe called `mailadmin' which gets associated
> only with -admin messages. The mailowner script would thus only
> accept messages for -owner. Pros: keeps things simple, and splits
> bounce processing into a separate queue early on, with minimal
> chance of problems. Cons: breaks backwards compatibility with
> existing alias files, since they'd have to be changed to point the
> -admin addresses at mailadmin instead of what they currently point
> to (mailowner). Mitigate this with the auto-alias-file
> regeneration scripts already in Mailman (i.e. bin/genaliases).
>
> Thoughts? Preferences? Other suggestions?
>
> -Barry
>
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