[Mailman-Developers] edit moderated messages?

[J C Lawrence]

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:30:48 -0700 
Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com> wrote:
> On 8/12/01 11:19 PM, "J C Lawrence" <claw@kanga.nu> wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:17:54 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach
>> <chuqui@plaidworks.com> wrote:

>>> Not an x-header, definitely.

>> Why not?  I can see why not exclusively, but why not in general?

> Because most users don't have a clue they exist, and most that do
> don't think to look. As far as I'm concerned, X-headers are useful
> only to talk to a program that's looking to read them. Using them
> to communicate to an end-user is a failure.

<nod>

In which case, given that we can also add in-message blurbs, why not
also have an X-header?  

This seems especially pertinent to those cases where the
modification blurb is not only unnecessary, but is unwanted on a
per-list basis.  Its easy to view moderation editing only from a
discussion list vantage.  There are many other list types.  For
instance an announcement list where the moderator adds or updates
canned branding data for list messages which are submitted by
various product depts would explicitly NOT want the blurb for THAT
list, but may well want it for other discussion lists on that same
server.

>> I have a slight problem: For one of my lists I edit every single
>> message.

> In this special case,I'd suggest you hack the code to omit the
> message.

That impacts all lists, not just the one or two lists I'm interested
in.  

> I do not, however, think it's a good idea to omit the message, or
> make the message configurable in some way -- because I think users
> need to be warned (this is a case where it's a standard operation
> for the list, so it's Different), and I think removing that
> message should be diffifcult and an overt act, not something
> configured with half a thought.

I generically agree that the blurb should be there by default.  I
also agree that special action should be required to remove it.
Unlike list-* headers, I don't see value in holding a hard line
here.  

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