[Edu-sig] Beyond CP4E

Arthur ajsiegel at optonline.net
Sat Apr 16 18:29:45 CEST 2005



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra [mailto:rsenra at acm.org]
> To: Arthur
>  Myself being a shy-geek and all that jazz I'd like to add that the
> exposure
>  to computers have expanded my social network cross-country over the seas,
>  it lead me to give speeches to large audiences (mostly about Python) and
>  to become a part-time teacher. All of that goes contrary to my parents
> expectations
>  regarding the time I spent with computers during my teenage years.

I identify myself as part of the Python community, with a particular
interest in the utilization of Python in education.

And I see no conflict between that and anything else I have said or am
saying.

If I approach all this as a Python enthused strategist, rather than as a
critic, everything is still the same to me.  Which is why I am comfortable
with what I am doing. My intention is not to be defeatist or disruptive.

If we are to make the argument in favor of wider programming education, it
is a serious enough proposal (to me), so that it should be made with in a
way that is consistent with that seriousness.  

Sorry to harp, but counting roses in Shakespeare does not pass the smell
test there.

If we are up against the problem that programming proficiency is only a
demonstrable asset when approaching subjects like science, math, and
engineering and we get diverted because those are "boy" subjects, or "too
serious", or "who cares"  and such like - we can collaborate with that
critique or we can take it on.

I would prefer to take it on.

Art




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