From dave at gabrielson.ca  Fri Jan  6 15:33:00 2006
From: dave at gabrielson.ca (Dave Gabrielson)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:33:00 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Next Meeting
Message-ID: <200601061433.00356.dave@gabrielson.ca>

Hello all,

I've finally got my schedule sorted out for this semester-- unfortunately I 
have class from 11:30-1:00 on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

This will make it difficult for me to
a) Attend the next meeting and
b) Give a presentation at the next meeting!

Any thoughts on either rescheduling or getting somebody else to talk?

--Dave.


From mpfaiffer at callapple.org  Sun Jan  8 14:57:06 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:57:06 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Next Meeting
In-Reply-To: <200601061433.00356.dave@gabrielson.ca>
References: <200601061433.00356.dave@gabrielson.ca>
Message-ID: <200601081357.06252.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>

On January 6, 2006 02:33 pm, Dave Gabrielson wrote this amazing epistle:
> Hello all,
>
> I've finally got my schedule sorted out for this semester-- unfortunately I
> have class from 11:30-1:00 on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
>
> This will make it difficult for me to
> a) Attend the next meeting and
> b) Give a presentation at the next meeting!
>
> Any thoughts on either rescheduling or getting somebody else to talk?
>
> --Dave.

 Since nobody has replied yet I figured I'd post something. This way there is 
at least something to discuss.

 This isn't a great idea. In fact the more I think about it the less it sounds 
as if it's feasible. We could always do a project for meetings where things 
fall through. For example we could look at creating a piece of software which 
people would want. Maybe a standalone version of the Allpeers Mozilla plugin. 
Or (this is the part I don't think is feasible) we could write a Python 
intrepreter for an old 8/16 bit system with quite a number of hobbiests. 
Namely the Apple// (if they are going to be used, I know where to get as many 
as we need). These would all be written and discussed either in the meetings 
or in our spare time.

    Later
    Mike



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From phil at rephil.org  Sun Jan  8 17:43:11 2006
From: phil at rephil.org (Phil Mendelsohn)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:43:11 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Python Wpg] Next Meeting
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Mike Pfaiffer said:
> On January 6, 2006 02:33 pm, Dave Gabrielson wrote this amazing epistle:

>> I've finally got my schedule sorted out for this semester--
>> unfortunately I
>> have class from 11:30-1:00 on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
<SNIP>
>> Any thoughts on either rescheduling or getting somebody else to talk?

I'd vote for reschedule myself -- it seems that this term I am either just
finished lecturing, about to lecture, or both at this time.  Meetings
during the day during the week look like a no-go for me now. :s

>  This isn't a great idea. In fact the more I think about it the less it
> sounds as if it's feasible. We could always do a project for meetings
> where things fall through.

It took me a minute to realize that "this isn't a great idea" was a
forward reference to the project idea -- right?

I think that your idea could be interesting of itself -- a really great
way to work out some of our Python topics would be hands-on as an
engineering group, rather than an "armchair society."  I don't know that
it particularly helps for next Tuesday, but in a larger scheme, could be
really cool.

Rather than listen to someone present a solution, we could work it out
while we're there.  This is exactly the dynamic sort of situation that
turns *my* crank. :)

But, again, we're back to logistics. :(  (Even though work on a project
can spread over outside the group meetings...)

Anyone interested in rescheduling from Tues 17-Jan to Sat 14-Jan? 
[There's a 4 week math event starting the 21st on Saturdays, which is why
I suggest moving up, not moving back.]

Phil

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From broek at cc.umanitoba.ca  Sun Jan  8 19:15:05 2006
From: broek at cc.umanitoba.ca (Brian van den Broek)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:15:05 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Next Meeting
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Phil Mendelsohn said unto the world upon 08/01/06 04:43 PM:
> Mike Pfaiffer said:
> 
>>On January 6, 2006 02:33 pm, Dave Gabrielson wrote this amazing epistle:
> 
> 
>>>I've finally got my schedule sorted out for this semester--
>>>unfortunately I
>>>have class from 11:30-1:00 on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
> 
> <SNIP>
> 
>>>Any thoughts on either rescheduling or getting somebody else to talk?

<snip>

> Anyone interested in rescheduling from Tues 17-Jan to Sat 14-Jan? 
> [There's a 4 week math event starting the 21st on Saturdays, which is why
> I suggest moving up, not moving back.]

I'd be in favour of the suggested change, too. I wasn't able to come 
to the inaugural meeting due to schedule conflicts, and this term 
Tuesdays and Thursdays are heavy teaching days.

It does seem to me that weekday meetings will be hard for lots of 
people . . . .

Best to all,

Brian vdB


From mpfaiffer at callapple.org  Sun Jan  8 21:51:14 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:51:14 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Next Meeting
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Message-ID: <200601082051.14767.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>

On January 8, 2006 04:43 pm, Phil Mendelsohn wrote this amazing epistle:
> Mike Pfaiffer said:
> > On January 6, 2006 02:33 pm, Dave Gabrielson wrote this amazing epistle:
> >> I've finally got my schedule sorted out for this semester--
> >> unfortunately I
> >> have class from 11:30-1:00 on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> >> Any thoughts on either rescheduling or getting somebody else to talk?
>
> I'd vote for reschedule myself -- it seems that this term I am either just
> finished lecturing, about to lecture, or both at this time.  Meetings
> during the day during the week look like a no-go for me now. :s

 I'm of two minds about rescheduling for this month. Obviously if we don't,  
at least three people aren't going to be able to make it. Since Dave was 
going to present, we'd have to wing it. Like a few of you, I've given 
presentations before, but I don't know enough about Python to help out. Hence 
my suggestion about writing an interpreter for the Apple// (I used to be part 
of that group and there are still quite a number of users world wide). OTOH, 
if we do reschedule we have to pick a time and place. Also there are others 
who found out about the group who want to attend but would be unaware of the 
move. I made the announcements to two UGs and there is only enough time to 
correct one. There is also the possibility of two meetings. I can only afford 
to attend one.

> >  This isn't a great idea. In fact the more I think about it the less it
> > sounds as if it's feasible. We could always do a project for meetings
> > where things fall through.
>
> It took me a minute to realize that "this isn't a great idea" was a
> forward reference to the project idea -- right?

 Correct.

> I think that your idea could be interesting of itself -- a really great
> way to work out some of our Python topics would be hands-on as an
> engineering group, rather than an "armchair society."  I don't know that
> it particularly helps for next Tuesday, but in a larger scheme, could be
> really cool.

 It might be good if we tackle a small project. Something which can be done in 
a couple of hours. I can bring paper. The other two suggestions would take 
much longer.

> Rather than listen to someone present a solution, we could work it out
> while we're there.  This is exactly the dynamic sort of situation that
> turns *my* crank. :)

 A small group in the Fyxx... No problem. Anything larger than half a dozen 
people and we'd need a more private place. We don't want to drive out their 
customers and we don't want their customers to drive us out. If there's a lot 
of paper the owners may not like us too much.

> But, again, we're back to logistics. :(  (Even though work on a project
> can spread over outside the group meetings...)

 True. Depending on the size of the group a certain amount is a good thing. If 
it's a small group, I have no trouble meeting in a cafeteria at a university 
to scribble out some code on a napkin. I rather miss doing that, but with 20+ 
people it becomes impractical.

> Anyone interested in rescheduling from Tues 17-Jan to Sat 14-Jan?
> [There's a 4 week math event starting the 21st on Saturdays, which is why
> I suggest moving up, not moving back.]

 I have no problem as long as it's not the same time as the MUUG meeting. I'll 
go along with what everybody wants. The only thing is someone has to make the 
decision and let us know.

> Phil

    Later
    Mike



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From mpfaiffer at callapple.org  Thu Jan 12 14:40:25 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:40:25 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Are we rescheduling or not?
Message-ID: <200601121340.26049.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>

 Saturday is two days away. Are we going to have a meeting on Saturday? If so, 
what time and place? If not, then are we going to keep the same time and 
place or reschedule it for another day? 

 I'm fine either way. Just as long as I know when and where to show up.

 If nobody says anything then maybe we should accept the agreed time and place 
(Tuesday noon at the Fyxx on Broadway) for THIS meeting. Suggestions for the 
next few meetings could be made to the mailing list. Two people had 
suggestions for meeting times. One suggested a set pattern every month to 
make it easier to get time off work. Another said noon meetings were too 
tough to get to. As before, I'm fine either way. My schedule is more flexible 
than most.

 BTW, I found Python is indeed part of Mac OS X. You just have to get to the 
terminal and start it up.

    Later
    Mike


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From syd at plug.ca  Thu Jan 12 15:32:47 2006
From: syd at plug.ca (syd at plug.ca)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:32:47 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Python Wpg] [Fwd: Re: Fwd: meeting room for Python users group]
Message-ID: <61484.24.79.4.246.1137097967.squirrel@mail2.plug.ca>


Sorry for the delay on this, folks. Given the recent rescheduling
discussion, this may be moot. I'm still game to go. Would we want an LCD
proj? Thanks to Michael Hohner at the U of W Library for his help with
this!

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: Fwd: meeting room for Python users group
From:    "Michael Hohner" <m.hohner at uwinnipeg.ca>
Date:    Thu, January 12, 2006 11:29 am
To:      syd at plug.ca
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Syd;

Can you forward this to Stuart?  I've confirmed 3M54 for the 17th from
noon to 1.  Hopefully he can make use of it.  If not, let me know as soon
as possible.  Also, if he want's an LCD projector/computer or anything
else, let me know.

Cheers,

Michael


>>> Bob Casson 01/12/06 11:26 AM >>>
I booked Michael 3M54 for Jan 17th from noon to 1pm.

>>> Donna Marchak 01/12/06 9:52 AM >>>
Hi Bob,

Can you please see if there is anything available for Michael.

Thank you,

Donna








From phil at rephil.org  Thu Jan 12 15:45:05 2006
From: phil at rephil.org (Phil Mendelsohn)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:45:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Python Wpg] [Fwd: Re: Fwd: meeting room for Python users group]
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syd at plug.ca said:
>
> Sorry for the delay on this, folks. Given the recent rescheduling
> discussion, this may be moot. I'm still game to go. Would we want an LCD
> proj? Thanks to Michael Hohner at the U of W Library for his help with
> this!

Unless someone pipes up voluteering to present, I'd say cancel so we (as a
group) don't jerk their chain around.  (That's a good way to wear out a
welcome.)  Dave and I are guaranteeing that we can't make Tuesday.

Stuart seems strangely silent... did he say that he'd be out of town for a
while?  (I've got a couple of synapses that are turning over, but they
won't start.)

Phil M

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From mpfaiffer at callapple.org  Thu Jan 12 17:33:08 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:33:08 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] [Fwd: Re: Fwd: meeting room for Python users group]
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On January 12, 2006 02:45 pm, Phil Mendelsohn wrote this amazing epistle:
> syd at plug.ca said:
> > Sorry for the delay on this, folks. Given the recent rescheduling
> > discussion, this may be moot. I'm still game to go. Would we want an LCD
> > proj? Thanks to Michael Hohner at the U of W Library for his help with
> > this!
>
> Unless someone pipes up voluteering to present, I'd say cancel so we (as a
> group) don't jerk their chain around.  (That's a good way to wear out a
> welcome.)  Dave and I are guaranteeing that we can't make Tuesday.

 Rather than an outright cancellation we could see if we could do something 
there for next month. The U of W is a more central location than the U of M 
(I have direct bus access to both until 11:00pm on weekdays so it's not a 
bother to me). Again it's going to be an issue of time. A few people are 
telling me evenings are a better time for them.

> Stuart seems strangely silent... did he say that he'd be out of town for a
> while?  (I've got a couple of synapses that are turning over, but they
> won't start.)

 I seem to recall the same thing.

> Phil M

    Later
    Mike



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From phil at rephil.org  Thu Jan 12 17:56:07 2006
From: phil at rephil.org (Phil Mendelsohn)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:56:07 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Python Wpg] [Fwd: Re:  Are we rescheduling or not?]
Message-ID: <60156.64.201.190.96.1137106567.squirrel@webmail.non-prophet.org>

Oops -- apparently I replied only to Mike, not the list much earlier in
the day.

Most of it has been covered, but I was asking Dave (no wonder he didn't
reply!) if he agreed that we could probably use the lounge in the math
dept at the U of M (we both have keys.)

Phil

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: [Python Wpg] Are we rescheduling or not?
From:    "Mike Pfaiffer" <mpfaiffer at callapple.org>
Date:    Thu, January 12, 2006 4:42 pm
To:      phil at rephil.org
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On January 12, 2006 01:56 pm, Phil Mendelsohn wrote this amazing epistle:
> Mike Pfaiffer said:
> >  Saturday is two days away. Are we going to have a meeting on Saturday?
>
> OK with me.  (Oh wait -- I guess I suggested it!)  I'd say 2:30, and am
not sure where.

 You may have wanted to post the message to the list. You can post the reply
to this there.

 As I recall there isn't much open after that on Saturday.

> [Dave -- for just the 5-6 of us this time, we could use the math lounge,
eh?  I don't think anyone would really care, and if we were sufficiently
clever, we could probably get the dept. projector.]

 I don't know where that is.

> >  BTW, I found Python is indeed part of Mac OS X. You just have to get to
> > the terminal and start it up.
>
> Nifty!

 I thought so too. I'll have to see if I can create an icon for it. ;-)

> Phil M

    Later
    Mike


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From stuartw at mts.net  Thu Jan 12 17:49:26 2006
From: stuartw at mts.net (Stuart Williams)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:49:26 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] [Fwd: Re: Fwd: meeting room for Python users group]
In-Reply-To: <200601121633.08254.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
References: <61484.24.79.4.246.1137097967.squirrel@mail2.plug.ca>
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	<200601121633.08254.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
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>>>>> Mike Pfaiffer writes:
> Subject: Re: [Python Wpg] [Fwd: Re: Fwd: meeting room for Python users group]

Yes, I've been out of town.

I'd really hate to cancel the meeting because it has been publicized
to several other groups.  If we were to try to get word out of a
change of date and time, it might not reach those that need to hear
it, and it might diminish the strength of our voice for later
announcements.

I suggest we proceed with the meeting but change the topic.  I can do
a presentation on teaching computer programming using Python.  If
attendance is low I could repeat the talk in a few months for those
who missed it.

So, unless too many of you disagree with my suggestion, January's
meeting will be January 17th 12:00 noon to 1:00 p.m. at the University
of Winnipeg room 3M54.

Stuart.


From stuartw at mts.net  Thu Jan 12 18:43:33 2006
From: stuartw at mts.net (Stuart Williams)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:43:33 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Survey of potential new meeting times
Message-ID: <17350.59813.999869.509384@localhost.localdomain>

We need to find a new time to meet, other than Tuesdays at noon.  For
now let's assume the same day and time every month, and one that
hopefully works for everyone that's interested so far.  My guess is
we'll have to move to an evening slot.

Please send me email with times that generally work for you for
weekday evenings, weekday lunch hours, and weekends.  Please include
which weeks in the month work, and put all the time slots in order of
your preference.  Please don't leave any slots out unless you are
unable or unwilling to come during those slots or it will skew the
sorting.  For evenings please include the earliest and latest that
work for you.

For example, I might give this list:

1st preference: 3rd or 4th Tuesday evening 6:30 to 10:00 p.m.
2nd preference: Any Wed or Thu evening 6:30 to 10:00 p.m.
3rd preference: 12 noon Mon-Thu.
4th preference: Any Sat. 9:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m.

I suggest you email this information to me and I'll compile and post
the results.

If anyone wants to write a Python script to do this sorting, it
implies volunteering to present the code as the March presentation.

Stuart.


From mpfaiffer at callapple.org  Thu Jan 12 20:35:18 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:35:18 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Survey of potential new meeting times
In-Reply-To: <17350.59813.999869.509384@localhost.localdomain>
References: <17350.59813.999869.509384@localhost.localdomain>
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On January 12, 2006 05:43 pm, Stuart Williams wrote this amazing epistle:
> We need to find a new time to meet, other than Tuesdays at noon.  For
> now let's assume the same day and time every month, and one that
> hopefully works for everyone that's interested so far.  My guess is
> we'll have to move to an evening slot.

 That seems to be the consensus of the people I've been talking with.

> Please send me email with times that generally work for you for
> weekday evenings, weekday lunch hours, and weekends.  Please include
> which weeks in the month work, and put all the time slots in order of
> your preference.  Please don't leave any slots out unless you are
> unable or unwilling to come during those slots or it will skew the
> sorting.  For evenings please include the earliest and latest that
> work for you.
>
> For example, I might give this list:
>
> 1st preference: 3rd or 4th Tuesday evening 6:30 to 10:00 p.m.
> 2nd preference: Any Wed or Thu evening 6:30 to 10:00 p.m.
> 3rd preference: 12 noon Mon-Thu.
> 4th preference: Any Sat. 9:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m.

 Assuming the recent study about needing a couple of hours to get going in the 
morning is true my schedule preferences would be Monday - Saturday Noon - 
10:00pm (depending on bus service or a ride). The exceptions would be the 
times and dates coinciding with the MWCS (first Tuesday evening) and MUUG 
(second Tuesday evening except next month). If the same day of the month is 
used it's not a problem. I need about a weeks notice (especially toward the 
end of the month - my articles are generally due on the 28'th) to free up 
time otherwise.

> I suggest you email this information to me and I'll compile and post
> the results.

 Since the times I listed coincide with my general schedule (and there's 
always somebody home), here they are.

> If anyone wants to write a Python script to do this sorting, it
> implies volunteering to present the code as the March presentation.

 Sort of dividing it into blocks with a mod up and a mod down... I'd do it, 
but I don't know enough Python to do it at the moment. I'd be working in 
Pascal or Applesoft BASIC (those I could whip out in 20 minutes). My concern 
would be how fast I could get it done rather than what's popular. A 
spreadsheet would be quicker yet...

> Stuart.

    Later
    Mike



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From umjenki5 at cc.umanitoba.ca  Thu Jan 12 23:20:42 2006
From: umjenki5 at cc.umanitoba.ca (Mark Jenkins)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:20:42 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Survey of potential new meeting times
In-Reply-To: <17350.59813.999869.509384@localhost.localdomain>
References: <17350.59813.999869.509384@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <43C72A9A.6040804@cc.umanitoba.ca>

> I suggest you email this information to me and I'll compile and post
> the results.
> 
> If anyone wants to write a Python script to do this sorting, it
> implies volunteering to present the code as the March presentation.

My meeting time preference data, and code to help us figure this out can
be found here:
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~umjenki5/python/meeting_prio.py

Mark


From mpfaiffer at callapple.org  Tue Jan 17 15:04:38 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:04:38 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Good introductory presentation today
Message-ID: <200601171404.38496.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>

 Thanks Stuart for the presentation. It confirmed my opinion Python is a 
really "whacked out" language. ;-) I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm not going to 
be doing any coding for a while (articles to write - if anybody wants to 
write something on Python it will be published), but I think I can see some 
things I want to change over from shell scripts to Python. Better 
string/object handling and all that. I've even got a germ of an idea sitting 
in the back of my mind.

    Later
    Mike

P.S. Great location for me. Much better than MWCS out in Unicity.

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From stuartw at mts.net  Tue Jan 17 17:23:09 2006
From: stuartw at mts.net (Stuart Williams)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:23:09 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Survey of potential new meeting times
In-Reply-To: <17350.59813.999869.509384@localhost.localdomain>
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Message-ID: <17357.28237.2004.480391@localhost.localdomain>

>>>>> Stuart Williams writes:
> Subject: [Python Wpg] Survey of potential new meeting times

> Please send me email with times that generally work for you...

I've so far received responses from 5 of the 10 list members.  Dear
dawdlers, please reply.  I suggest we agree on a time and place for
the next meeting by the end of this week.  The original request is
this:

  Please send me email with times that generally work for you for
  weekday evenings, weekday lunch hours, and weekends.  Please include
  which weeks in the month work, and put all the time slots in order
  of your preference.  Please don't leave any slots out unless you are
  unable or unwilling to come during those slots or it will skew the
  sorting.  For evenings please include the earliest and latest that
  work for you.

  For example, I might give this list:

  1st preference: 3rd or 4th Tuesday evening 6:30 to 10:00 p.m.
  2nd preference: Any Wed or Thu evening 6:30 to 10:00 p.m.
  3rd preference: 12 noon Mon-Thu.
  4th preference: Any Sat. 9:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m.

Stuart.


From stuartw at mts.net  Wed Jan 18 15:02:21 2006
From: stuartw at mts.net (Stuart Williams)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:02:21 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting schedule
Message-ID: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>

Any objections to the 4th Wednesday of the month?

With seven out of ten mailing list members having replied, the 1st,
2nd, or 4th Wednesday evening of the month is the only option that
suits everyone, with a stated preference from two for the 4th
Wednesday.

I suggest a starting time of 7:30 p.m. and a central location, perhaps
the University of Winnipeg.  Any thoughts?

Stuart.


From umjenki5 at cc.umanitoba.ca  Wed Jan 18 15:07:30 2006
From: umjenki5 at cc.umanitoba.ca (Mark Jenkins)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:07:30 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting schedule
In-Reply-To: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
References: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <43CEA002.3000702@cc.umanitoba.ca>

> Any objections to the 4th Wednesday of the month?

No objection here. It's nice to see a proposal for 4th something of the
month, as many once of month activities go for 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

> I suggest a starting time of 7:30 p.m. and a central location,
> perhaps the University of Winnipeg.  Any thoughts?

Central is very good.


From syd at plug.ca  Wed Jan 18 15:29:24 2006
From: syd at plug.ca (syd at plug.ca)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:29:24 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting schedule
In-Reply-To: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
References: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <60949.142.132.4.189.1137616164.squirrel@mail2.plug.ca>

> Any objections to the 4th Wednesday of the month?
>
> With seven out of ten mailing list members having replied, the 1st,
> 2nd, or 4th Wednesday evening of the month is the only option that
> suits everyone, with a stated preference from two for the 4th
> Wednesday.
>
> I suggest a starting time of 7:30 p.m. and a central location, perhaps
> the University of Winnipeg.  Any thoughts?

I'm good date, time, location all sound good to me.

Regards,
Syd



From syd at plug.ca  Wed Jan 18 15:35:04 2006
From: syd at plug.ca (syd at plug.ca)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:35:04 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting schedule
In-Reply-To: <60949.142.132.4.189.1137616164.squirrel@mail2.plug.ca>
References: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
	<60949.142.132.4.189.1137616164.squirrel@mail2.plug.ca>
Message-ID: <34589.142.132.4.189.1137616504.squirrel@mail2.plug.ca>

>> Any objections to the 4th Wednesday of the month?
>>
>> With seven out of ten mailing list members having replied, the 1st,
>> 2nd, or 4th Wednesday evening of the month is the only option that
>> suits everyone, with a stated preference from two for the 4th
>> Wednesday.
>>
>> I suggest a starting time of 7:30 p.m. and a central location, perhaps
>> the University of Winnipeg.  Any thoughts?
>
> I'm good date, time, location all sound good to me.
>

In case anyone thought I was getting fresh or promoting myself: that
should have read:

I'm good with those choices. Date, time, and location all sound good to me.

Sorry for the noise. Clicked "send" too soon by accident :-)

Regards,
Syd



From phil at rephil.org  Wed Jan 18 16:10:06 2006
From: phil at rephil.org (Phil Mendelsohn)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:10:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting schedule
In-Reply-To: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
References: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <58578.130.179.26.225.1137618606.squirrel@webmail.non-prophet.org>


Stuart Williams said:
> Any objections to the 4th Wednesday of the month?

No objections.  Just can't make it, as I said in the e-mail, but you guys
have a swell time anyway, and I'll lurk on the list.

Please resist any temptation to accomodate me -- I don't know from month
to month what nights might be free; my schedule (with 3 kids) is far too
dynamic.  Perhaps I'll start the weekend SIG, when we're ready for 2
meetings a month...

Cheers,
PhilM

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U. of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3T 2N2
Office:  446 Machray Hall, 204-474-6470
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From mpfaiffer at callapple.org  Wed Jan 18 18:56:37 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:56:37 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting schedule
In-Reply-To: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
References: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200601181756.37832.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>

On January 18, 2006 02:02 pm, Stuart Williams wrote this amazing epistle:
> Any objections to the 4th Wednesday of the month?
>
> With seven out of ten mailing list members having replied, the 1st,
> 2nd, or 4th Wednesday evening of the month is the only option that
> suits everyone, with a stated preference from two for the 4th
> Wednesday.
>
> I suggest a starting time of 7:30 p.m. and a central location, perhaps
> the University of Winnipeg.  Any thoughts?
>
> Stuart.

 I'm fine with it.

    Later
    Mike



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From broek at cc.umanitoba.ca  Wed Jan 18 19:35:42 2006
From: broek at cc.umanitoba.ca (Brian van den Broek)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:35:42 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting schedule
In-Reply-To: <17358.40653.150587.790527@localhost.localdomain>
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Message-ID: <43CEDEDE.7000800@cc.umanitoba.ca>

Stuart Williams said unto the world upon 18/01/06 02:02 PM:
> Any objections to the 4th Wednesday of the month?
> 
> With seven out of ten mailing list members having replied, the 1st,
> 2nd, or 4th Wednesday evening of the month is the only option that
> suits everyone, with a stated preference from two for the 4th
> Wednesday.
> 
> I suggest a starting time of 7:30 p.m. and a central location, perhaps
> the University of Winnipeg.  Any thoughts?
> 
> Stuart.

Works for me.

Thanks for doing the admin work, Stuart.

Best,

Brian vdB


From stuartw at mts.net  Fri Jan 27 17:34:40 2006
From: stuartw at mts.net (Stuart Williams)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:34:40 -0600
Subject: [Python Wpg] Publicity for next month's meeting
Message-ID: <17370.40960.218710.206457@localhost.localdomain>

Greetings all,

Please help this group reach critical mass by publicizing it in
appropriate venues.  I suggest friends, colleagues, professional
contacts, post-secondary and high school contacts, and local user
groups and professional organizations.

Several of you volunteered to do this last month.  I suggest you
repeat your messages with the news that we've moved our meetings to an
evening slot and pointing them at the website
(http://wiki.python.org/moin/WinniPUG) which will have the most up to
date details on meetings.

Stuart.