Forget the question on the random sound prog. I had enumerate in the loop when it should have been outside the loop. One dumb-smack for me ;') -- Jim I sure love that Guv-a-Mint Cheese, Guv-a-Mint Cheese, Guv-a-Mint Cheese Oh please Guv-a-Mint, Guv-a-Mint please, Please bring back that Guv-a-Mint Cheeeeeeeeese!