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[Piotr Kamiński]

Dnia 11-06-2011 o 04:34:47 Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info>
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> Piotr Kamiński wrote:
>
>> Could you please refrain from presenting your *religious* convictions in
>> this list: the notions you believe in as well as the ones that you believe
>> are false?
>>  This is a *technical* list, as I understand it, solely dedicated to the
>> technical side of teaching the *Python* programming language and
>> *programming* in general. I would like to keep it this way ...
>
> followed by FIFTY TWO lines of pseudo-philosophical waffling about his own religious beliefs.
>
> That's really funny. You made me laugh :)
>
> Piotr, I'm sorry that your religious faith is so fragile that it can't bear to be exposed to even the *existence* of contrary opinions, but that's not my problem.
>


"followed by FIFTY TWO lines of pseudo-philosophical waffling about his
own religious beliefs.(...)"

I guess then that according to this line of thought the mentioned articles
on Karl Popper and the Great Hunger in Ukraine - and the arguments
expressed there - are too my *exclusively own* religious beliefs... The
statement on the nonscientificness of (Neo)marxism must have been terribly
painful to you, that you've skipped it completely and escaped forwards
into ridiculing me...

I think it's better to use FIFTY TWO lines of my (and other persons')
arguments than to use just TWO lines of "...pseudo-philosophical waffling
about his own religious beliefs" making use of no arguments supporting
them, just *negating* the belief system of Christianity. Surely, Steven,
"(...)your religious faith is so fragile that it can't bear to be exposed
to even the *existence* of contrary opinions(...)" *supported with
arguments*, without you *simply ridiculing* the adversary's factual,
historical evidence and arguments.

Your inner anti-Christian leftist *bigotry* and *zeal* in ridiculing and
simply *spitting on* the belief system and its followers, are not my
problem. Instead, I wanted to signal the inappropriateness of your
behaviour and I did it. That's it.

I don't have the time and willingness to keep the conversation going in
your style, i.e. ridiculing the *person* of the opponent, his *beliefs*
and the *arguments in favour* of them.

I guess I would be definitely more successful if I had called you with an
f... word or told you - more or less in this way: your constant,
simplistic adversarial style (arguing *often exclusively* for the sake of
arguing) is offensive, however it is I that choose not to be offended.

To be clear, I'm talking of the ways that your nasty and biassed against
Christianity character has been dealt with recently in the general Python
list. On having this *treatment* applied to you, you usually get silent
for a day or two and start to speak in a much, much meeker, less arrogant,
provocative and offensive way. I realise that you need a heavy verbal
thrashing, not my "fragile, laughable" factual arguments presented in a
*polite*, seemingly feeble way, you "brave and always right" Internet
troll and a Christianity hater.

Shortly put, I am not a boor or lout, therefore I like to write longer
texts with factual arguments in them, not one- or two-sentence-long,
*primitive* *negations*, i.e. statements of your imaginary,
unsubstantiated in any way whatsoever ideological and *moral* superiority.

Why don't you, for a change, start ridiculing the Jewish or the Islamic
faiths... I reckon their responses won't be so "lengthy, fragile", polite
and non-violent... Stop pushing around Christianity using it as your
doormat and take off your anti-Christian horse blinkers..

And it is always worth repeating (and some of you may eagerly point out my
comments on the use of the word "repeatedly", I'm fine with such criticism
- I criticise, so I am prepared to being exposed to criticising, and the
criticising itself) :

"(...)Notice that he (Karl Popper) gives reasons (the theory of
*falsifiability*) why he
thinks Marxist historical materialism and its idea of the progress of
humanity is *unscientific*. That does not put the ideas of
*"progressiveness"* of the New Left in a good light, does it? Especially
when compared with Popper's views on Christianity. That must seem scary
and blasphemous for leftists to distinguish the similarities between
(Neo)marxism and Christianity... Thus that is why some philosophers see
the varied (neo)marxist movements as denominations of the
*non-traditional* Marxist *religion*, in a way similar to the diverse
denominations of Christianity.(...)
"

Bye (that is, as it originally meant in its full form: God be with you), a
biassed follower of yet another religion, a religion pretending to be a
branch of science.


Piotr