[Tutor] First steps for C++/Qt developers

[M. Bashir Al-Noimi]

Thanks a lot Walter for valuable reply,

On 12/05/2010 03:09 م, Walter Prins wrote:
>
> On 12 May 2010 12:09, M. Bashir Al-Noimi <mbnoimi at gmx.com 
> <mailto:mbnoimi at gmx.com>> wrote:
>
>        1. From where I can start python by examples for C++ developers
>           (I don't want documentation tutorials cuz I need simple
>           tutorials compares between C++ & python syntax just at start
>           point)?
>
> Not sure about actual examples, but have a look here: 
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/LanguageComparisons
>
> As you say, this is only a starting point however, because Python 
> really introduces new idioms (natural ways of expression) that does 
> not exist in other languages.  The bigger task is learning proper 
> Python idioms/ways of expressing your intent naturally in Python, 
> rather than writing C++ in Python syntax.
For me this comparison is enough it's just a magic drug for courage :-P 
:-P :-P

>        1. What's most IDE like Qt Creator (smart code completing is
>           very important to me)?
>        2. One of most different -I guess- between PHP & ASP.net is
>           separated html code, does python separates html code or not?
>
> There are multiple ways to do web development in Python, including (as 
> you put it) PHP style and ASP.Net style.  There isn't however really a 
> RAD/visual environment specifically for *web* development in Python, 
> however personally I would suggest this is not neccesarily a negative 
> and may indeed be a positive.
>
>        1. Do I need any pre knowledge about CGI principles before
>           stating developing web application with python?
>
> That depends, but I'd hazard to say understanding web (including CGI) 
> principles would be neccesary.
>
>        1. Does django provide rapid framework for web applications
>           just like Qt? or you suggest better framework (I don't want
>           to create web applications from scratch)?
>
> QT is a mostly a UI widget library/framework, DJango is patently not 
> really a UI widget library, although it takes care of a lot other 
> details that service in the context of web development.
>
> At the risk of confusing matters further, you may want to look into 
> the "Pyjamas" project.
>
> Pyjamas is essentially a Python to Javascript compiler with a UI 
> widget abstraction layer and a Web UI layer of its,  and that has 
> bindings to GTK (similar to QT) or its own web-based UI controls.  As 
> a result, applictions targetting/using Pyjamas are/can be written in 
> pure python, much like any conventional GUI desktop applicatoin would 
> be, but which can then either run either as a web application or a GUI 
> application depending on which binding is selected.
>
> More on the Pyjamas project here: http://pyjs.org/
Nice I read about same thing in Qt labs 
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/09/18/qt-in-the-cloud-with-qwebclient/ 
but I still have a tiny two questions, pyjamas comes with UI widgets 
which can bind to web/js or desktop/GTK, Qt or wxWidget ui, *could I use 
any ui desinger (like Glade) for designing pyjamas ui?*

pyjamas from code side like desktop ui where DJango is a full web 
framework so I'm wondering, *do I need to use one of them or both 
together (in case if i want to gain the benefits of ajax options)? *
>
>       1.
>
>
>        2. What's most suitable packaging tool (deploying desktop
>           applications) for Windows OS?
>
> There are several, each with pro's and con's.  See for example here:
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/bbfreeze/0.95.4
> http://www.py2exe.org/
>
> Which one is most suitable will depend on the context you're operating in.
>
>        1. Does the period of 2 week enough for learning python syntax
>           & basics of web developing?
>
> You can probably get going in 2 weeks, but of course you'll not have 
> mastered anything in that period and you'll be learning well beyond 
> the initial 2 weeks (as you would be with any new language/platform.)
>
> Walter
>
>

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Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi
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