ok, i'm feeling particularly stupid today: given a string a = 'abcdefghijklmnop' and a string b = 'abc', how do i iterate b against a, so i get a string c = 'abcabcabcabcabca' the length of a? my brain is hurting from all the failed for loops :) -- Sean Dwyer <ewe2@cvis.com.au> CAN Admin <ewe2@can.org.au> Web: http://ewe2.cvis.com.au/