From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Aug  1 20:41:06 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 14:41:06 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Teen Tech Camp - Aug 13
Message-ID: <51FAABC2.7000002@unc.edu>

Julia Elman has posted a press release here about the one day Raspberry 
Pi programming camp for kids on Tuesday August 13:

http://juliaelman.com/blog/2013/07/31/durham-teen-tech-camp-press-release

For more information and to help, contact Julia at the email address 
shown at the bottom of her blog post linked above.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From jeremydavis at jeremydavis.biz  Sun Aug  4 05:57:07 2013
From: jeremydavis at jeremydavis.biz (Jeremy Davis)
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 23:57:07 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Teaser - Professor Kliq and MC Frontalot performing live
 in Raleigh to kick off the All Things Open Conference!
Message-ID: <CACSroP3JAMhGvau_qzio1--iZ7-p2PJMLU6pMguBqqvigAdQOg@mail.gmail.com>

It has been confirmed that two absolutely awesome performances will
take place right here in Raleigh NC! Details are still to be
determined, most likely however, the evening of 22 October, as all the
attendees and speakers arrive for the All Things Open conference,
Professor Kliq and MC Frontalot will be performing live.

The albums of Mike Else, aka Professor Kliq, have dominated my
playlists for many months now. His music is truly incredible and sets
the standard for high quality music released under Creative Commons
licenses. But don't just take my word for it, visit
http://www.professorkliq.com. I highly recommend checking out the
"videos" tab of his website to see a few of the videos people have
made with his music. Then feel free to download and share his albums.

Damian Hess, aka MC Frontalot, is well known by the geek community as
the founder of Nerdcore HipHop. He puts on an awesome show and has
recently performed at the Ohio Linux Fest and the South East Linux
Fest. We finally have the chance to see him perform live, right here
in the City of Raleigh! http://frontalot.com/index.php/

A huge thanks goes out to Tarus Balog, founder of OpenNMS, who has
sponsored this entertainment for the All Things Open conference, which
takes place at the Raleigh Convention Center 23-24 October!
http://allthingsopen.org/

Cheers!
Jeremy Davis

From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Aug  7 16:50:11 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 10:50:11 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Colin's Open Data Talk
Message-ID: <52025EA3.7000006@unc.edu>

I heard such great thing's about Colin's Open Data talk at the last 
meeting. Steve sent me the URL to the talk slides later. I hope Colin 
doesn't mind me telling you the slides are here:

http://talks.caktusgroup.com/tripython/opendata

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From copelco at caktusgroup.com  Wed Aug  7 17:12:10 2013
From: copelco at caktusgroup.com (Colin Copeland)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:12:10 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Colin's Open Data Talk
In-Reply-To: <52025EA3.7000006@unc.edu>
References: <52025EA3.7000006@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <CABkYV1+fLPt=-S6x8Ug1snSF0SpqN34fn2J8-A3dDPpJzjQ17g@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Chris! I posted a link to the slides on meetup, but forgot to send
it to the list.

Colin


On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:

> I heard such great thing's about Colin's Open Data talk at the last
> meeting. Steve sent me the URL to the talk slides later. I hope Colin
> doesn't mind me telling you the slides are here:
>
> http://talks.caktusgroup.com/**tripython/opendata<http://talks.caktusgroup.com/tripython/opendata>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
> office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
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From cbc at unc.edu  Fri Aug  9 00:12:23 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:12:23 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] TriPython August 2013 Meeting: Open Data Part 2
Message-ID: <520417C7.5090307@unc.edu>

http://trizpug.org/Members/sgambino/aug-13-mtg

When: Thursday, August 22, 7pm
Where: WebAssign, NCSU Centennial Campus, 1791 Varsity Drive, Suite 200, 
Raleigh

Jason Hare, Open Data Program Manager for the City of Raleigh, will 
present the second part of our ongoing series of featured talks about 
the Open Data movement. Extemporaneous "lightning talks" of 5-10 minute 
duration are also welcome and don't need to be pre-announced. Plenty of 
free after hours parking is available in the upper level of the deck 
behind WebAssign (turn through the median just before the intersection 
of Varsity and Main Campus Drives). If the door is locked, call the 
number listed on the announcement link above. An after-meeting location 
for food and beverage will be decided at the meeting.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From cbc at unc.edu  Fri Aug  9 00:17:26 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:17:26 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Raleigh Project Night for September 2013
Message-ID: <520418F6.8010001@unc.edu>

http://trizpug.org/Members/sgambino/sept-13-rpn/

When: Tuesday, September 3, 6pm
Where: WebAssign, NCSU Centennial Campus, 1791 Varsity Drive, Suite 200, 
Raleigh

Raleigh Project Night meets on first Tuesdays. Have a project you want 
to show off, share, seek help with, or just get some work done 
surrounded my like minded Python lovers? Join us for our monthly project 
night and do just that! Don't have something to work on? Just need some 
help with Python? Show up and enjoy the energy, sprint on an open source 
project, find something interesting to contribute to or be inspired by! 
The setting is informal and there is no schedule, so don't worry if you 
show up past the start time. Whether you are a Python newbie needing 
help or have an open source project you want to share, come hang out and 
hack. Plenty of free after hours parking is available in the upper level 
of the deck behind WebAssign (turn through the median just before the 
intersection of Varsity and Main Campus Drives). If the door is locked, 
call the number listed on the announcement linked above
.
-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From copelco at caktusgroup.com  Fri Aug 16 15:01:02 2013
From: copelco at caktusgroup.com (Colin Copeland)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:01:02 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Open Data: Code for Durham
Message-ID: <CABkYV1KVKjM5yYUtC5N=Vqn+1uOEWj+53Ct+=5=jOWXseV7tag@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

We're hosting a Code for America meetup this coming Tuesday (8/20, 4:30p)
at the American Underground in Durham. For the past several months, a small
group of citizens have been meeting with the Durham City and County and are
now interested in getting the broader community involved - sharing progress
to date and propelling the initiative forward. We will be discussing open
data and potential app ideas that we could build together. We hope to have
a good mix of government folks, developers, designers, entrepreneurs and
citizens involved, so please invite anyone who you think may be interested!

You can read more about the event on our Meetup page:

http://www.meetup.com/Triangle-Code-for-America/events/132136112/

Thanks!
Colin

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From eric.leary at gmail.com  Sun Aug 18 17:41:06 2013
From: eric.leary at gmail.com (Eric Leary)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:41:06 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Open Data Primer by Joshua Tauberer
Message-ID: <CABWRpxBAi5gR3L5bdAWFOH+j76zALpQwjEfOoKEjC=de=ccpVw@mail.gmail.com>

Since going to CityCamp last May my browser bookmarks and Evernote account
have accumulated a lot of links to everything I can find related to Open
Data.

I would like to take this opportunity, before we hear from Jason Hare this
Thursday, to recommend a link to a book published by Joshua Tauberer,
freely available online:

http://opengovdata.io

This book is current, comprehensive yet concise, as well as cogent.

It is dangerous in one particular that has kept me from finishing it till
now, and therefore recommending it: It is profusely salted with links to
the most amazing data visualization eye candy and mind searing information
I've ever encountered.  I have lost hours of my life throbbing the knobs of
data analysis web sites all over the internet.

The role that the Python language and community have played in his odyssey
of discovery is often explicit, or one or two links away.

__________________________________

I also want to assert that the separate idea of Open Government has some
very respectable precedent in North Carolina.  Cassie Gavin of North
Carolina Sierra Club directed me to the NC Legislative Website.  We were
attending a Monday night session and I realized we were using the same tool
in the gallery that the legislators were accessing on their phones below.
This site is a vast improvement on what I experienced in 2008 when I was
trying to learn how to hold the NC Legislature accountable ( and trying to
use the Thomas system at the Federal level! ugh.)

http://www.ncleg.net/

This new (to me) site made it very tractable to follow the progress /
refactoring of bills this summer in ways I've never been able to do before.
My emails to representatives were far more authoritative and I started
getting responses!

Cheers

Eric Leary



-- 
Science is the establishment of expectations.  Art is the manipulation of
expectations. Justice is the fulfillment of expectations.  Expectations are
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From Jason.Hare at raleighnc.gov  Mon Aug 19 15:36:57 2013
From: Jason.Hare at raleighnc.gov (Hare, Jason)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:36:57 +0000
Subject: [TriZPUG] TriZPUG Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6
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References: <mailman.21.1376906402.17161.trizpug@python.org>
Message-ID: <0E61FE5763962A47863836ED8A7D5C7B5E1D33D1@CORMB02.ci.raleigh.nc.us>

Thank you for sharing Josh's work. The Open Data Handbook and many of Josh's writing have influenced the open data strategy for the City of Raleigh. 

I will be speaking about the technical definitions of open data and how those are evolving. I can send notes on the transparency open government boondoggle if you are interested.


Jason Hare
Open Data Program Manager
City of Raleigh - Information Technology
One Exchange Plaza, Suite 900
Post Office Box 590
Raleigh, North Carolina 27602-0590
P: ?919-996-3599 ?| ?M: 919-323-2767
E: ?jason.hare at raleighnc.gov
W: ?data.raleighnc.gov

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Since going to CityCamp last May my browser bookmarks and Evernote account have accumulated a lot of links to everything I can find related to Open Data.

I would like to take this opportunity, before we hear from Jason Hare this Thursday, to recommend a link to a book published by Joshua Tauberer, freely available online:

http://opengovdata.io

This book is current, comprehensive yet concise, as well as cogent.

It is dangerous in one particular that has kept me from finishing it till now, and therefore recommending it: It is profusely salted with links to the most amazing data visualization eye candy and mind searing information I've ever encountered.  I have lost hours of my life throbbing the knobs of data analysis web sites all over the internet.

The role that the Python language and community have played in his odyssey of discovery is often explicit, or one or two links away.

__________________________________

I also want to assert that the separate idea of Open Government has some very respectable precedent in North Carolina.  Cassie Gavin of North Carolina Sierra Club directed me to the NC Legislative Website.  We were attending a Monday night session and I realized we were using the same tool in the gallery that the legislators were accessing on their phones below.
This site is a vast improvement on what I experienced in 2008 when I was trying to learn how to hold the NC Legislature accountable ( and trying to use the Thomas system at the Federal level! ugh.)

http://www.ncleg.net/

This new (to me) site made it very tractable to follow the progress / refactoring of bills this summer in ways I've never been able to do before.
My emails to representatives were far more authoritative and I started getting responses!

Cheers

Eric Leary



--
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From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Aug 19 19:39:05 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:39:05 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Open Data Primer by Joshua Tauberer
In-Reply-To: <0E61FE5763962A47863836ED8A7D5C7B5E1D33D1@CORMB02.ci.raleigh.nc.us>
References: <mailman.21.1376906402.17161.trizpug@python.org>
 <0E61FE5763962A47863836ED8A7D5C7B5E1D33D1@CORMB02.ci.raleigh.nc.us>
Message-ID: <52125839.90809@unc.edu>

On 8/19/2013 9:36 AM, Hare, Jason wrote:
> I can send notes on the transparency open government boondoggle if you are interested.

Color us interested.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Aug 19 20:58:57 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:58:57 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] What the Python Community Teaches
Message-ID: <52126AF1.8040906@unc.edu>

This article is entitled "What Every Coder Community Can Learn From 
Python," but I think it could be titled "What the Python Community Can 
Learn From the Python Community." Anyway, some good advice on 
bootstrapping regional conferences:

http://www.fastcolabs.com/3015524/what-every-coder-community-can-learn-from-python

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From eric.leary at gmail.com  Tue Aug 20 00:24:16 2013
From: eric.leary at gmail.com (Eric Leary)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:24:16 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] TriZPUG Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <0E61FE5763962A47863836ED8A7D5C7B5E1D33D1@CORMB02.ci.raleigh.nc.us>
References: <mailman.21.1376906402.17161.trizpug@python.org>
 <0E61FE5763962A47863836ED8A7D5C7B5E1D33D1@CORMB02.ci.raleigh.nc.us>
Message-ID: <CABWRpxAX0R0mHd9X7WoibNEzp2KHmthvRHWPYX90FX3-QDuAdA@mail.gmail.com>

Colin warmed every one up perfectly last month to a lot of the same
material thats in Josh's book - so I think we are ready for a presentation
that gets a little closer to the realities of implementation for coders.
Recently I've gone down the rabbit hole on RDF, RDFa, and JASON-LD in
trying to understand their future role or rejection. Are they dead, or do
they just smell funny?

Chris and James were able to point out a lot of paradoxes in principle and
in day to day trade craft that made me realize how naive I am about the
"power of open data" and "open anything."  Anything you can share on that
front I will attend raptly, especially a boondoggle.  I am usually a sucker
for those....


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Hare, Jason <Jason.Hare at raleighnc.gov>wrote:

> Thank you for sharing Josh's work. The Open Data Handbook and many of
> Josh's writing have influenced the open data strategy for the City of
> Raleigh.
>
> I will be speaking about the technical definitions of open data and how
> those are evolving. I can send notes on the transparency open government
> boondoggle if you are interested.
>
>
> Jason Hare
> Open Data Program Manager
> City of Raleigh - Information Technology
> One Exchange Plaza, Suite 900
> Post Office Box 590
> Raleigh, North Carolina 27602-0590
> P:  919-996-3599  |  M: 919-323-2767
> E:  jason.hare at raleighnc.gov
> W:  data.raleighnc.gov
>
> IT Customer Support Center 919-996-6000
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:41:06 -0400
> From: Eric Leary <eric.leary at gmail.com>
> To: "Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group"
>         <trizpug at python.org>
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>
> Since going to CityCamp last May my browser bookmarks and Evernote account
> have accumulated a lot of links to everything I can find related to Open
> Data.
>
> I would like to take this opportunity, before we hear from Jason Hare this
> Thursday, to recommend a link to a book published by Joshua Tauberer,
> freely available online:
>
> http://opengovdata.io
>
> This book is current, comprehensive yet concise, as well as cogent.
>
> It is dangerous in one particular that has kept me from finishing it till
> now, and therefore recommending it: It is profusely salted with links to
> the most amazing data visualization eye candy and mind searing information
> I've ever encountered.  I have lost hours of my life throbbing the knobs of
> data analysis web sites all over the internet.
>
> The role that the Python language and community have played in his odyssey
> of discovery is often explicit, or one or two links away.
>
> __________________________________
>
> I also want to assert that the separate idea of Open Government has some
> very respectable precedent in North Carolina.  Cassie Gavin of North
> Carolina Sierra Club directed me to the NC Legislative Website.  We were
> attending a Monday night session and I realized we were using the same tool
> in the gallery that the legislators were accessing on their phones below.
> This site is a vast improvement on what I experienced in 2008 when I was
> trying to learn how to hold the NC Legislature accountable ( and trying to
> use the Thomas system at the Federal level! ugh.)
>
> http://www.ncleg.net/
>
> This new (to me) site made it very tractable to follow the progress /
> refactoring of bills this summer in ways I've never been able to do before.
> My emails to representatives were far more authoritative and I started
> getting responses!
>
> Cheers
>
> Eric Leary
>
>
>
> --
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> expectations. Justice is the fulfillment of expectations.  Expectations are
> patterns of mind.
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From eric.leary at gmail.com  Tue Aug 20 00:29:09 2013
From: eric.leary at gmail.com (Eric Leary)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:29:09 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] TriZPUG Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6
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JSON-LD. damn spell checkers...


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Eric Leary <eric.leary at gmail.com> wrote:

> Colin warmed every one up perfectly last month to a lot of the same
> material thats in Josh's book - so I think we are ready for a presentation
> that gets a little closer to the realities of implementation for coders.
> Recently I've gone down the rabbit hole on RDF, RDFa, and JASON-LD in
> trying to understand their future role or rejection. Are they dead, or do
> they just smell funny?
>
> Chris and James were able to point out a lot of paradoxes in principle and
> in day to day trade craft that made me realize how naive I am about the
> "power of open data" and "open anything."  Anything you can share on that
> front I will attend raptly, especially a boondoggle.  I am usually a sucker
> for those....
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Hare, Jason <Jason.Hare at raleighnc.gov>wrote:
>
>> Thank you for sharing Josh's work. The Open Data Handbook and many of
>> Josh's writing have influenced the open data strategy for the City of
>> Raleigh.
>>
>> I will be speaking about the technical definitions of open data and how
>> those are evolving. I can send notes on the transparency open government
>> boondoggle if you are interested.
>>
>>
>> Jason Hare
>> Open Data Program Manager
>> City of Raleigh - Information Technology
>> One Exchange Plaza, Suite 900
>> Post Office Box 590
>> Raleigh, North Carolina 27602-0590
>> P:  919-996-3599  |  M: 919-323-2767
>> E:  jason.hare at raleighnc.gov
>> W:  data.raleighnc.gov
>>
>> IT Customer Support Center 919-996-6000
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:41:06 -0400
>> From: Eric Leary <eric.leary at gmail.com>
>> To: "Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group"
>>         <trizpug at python.org>
>> Subject: [TriZPUG] Open Data Primer by Joshua Tauberer
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>> Since going to CityCamp last May my browser bookmarks and Evernote
>> account have accumulated a lot of links to everything I can find related to
>> Open Data.
>>
>> I would like to take this opportunity, before we hear from Jason Hare
>> this Thursday, to recommend a link to a book published by Joshua Tauberer,
>> freely available online:
>>
>> http://opengovdata.io
>>
>> This book is current, comprehensive yet concise, as well as cogent.
>>
>> It is dangerous in one particular that has kept me from finishing it till
>> now, and therefore recommending it: It is profusely salted with links to
>> the most amazing data visualization eye candy and mind searing information
>> I've ever encountered.  I have lost hours of my life throbbing the knobs of
>> data analysis web sites all over the internet.
>>
>> The role that the Python language and community have played in his
>> odyssey of discovery is often explicit, or one or two links away.
>>
>> __________________________________
>>
>> I also want to assert that the separate idea of Open Government has some
>> very respectable precedent in North Carolina.  Cassie Gavin of North
>> Carolina Sierra Club directed me to the NC Legislative Website.  We were
>> attending a Monday night session and I realized we were using the same tool
>> in the gallery that the legislators were accessing on their phones below.
>> This site is a vast improvement on what I experienced in 2008 when I was
>> trying to learn how to hold the NC Legislature accountable ( and trying to
>> use the Thomas system at the Federal level! ugh.)
>>
>> http://www.ncleg.net/
>>
>> This new (to me) site made it very tractable to follow the progress /
>> refactoring of bills this summer in ways I've never been able to do before.
>> My emails to representatives were far more authoritative and I started
>> getting responses!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Eric Leary
>>
>>
>>
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From ian at housejeffries.com  Tue Aug 20 04:28:43 2013
From: ian at housejeffries.com (Ian G. Jeffries)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:28:43 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] I wrote an article about Tent
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Here it is if anyone's interested:

     http://housejeffries.com/articles/what-is-tent

(Tent is a protocol for distributed communications and data storage)

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From jeremydavis at jeremydavis.biz  Tue Aug 20 05:56:20 2013
From: jeremydavis at jeremydavis.biz (Jeremy Davis)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 23:56:20 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Python Software Foundation Director-Jessica McKellar:
 Speaking in Raleigh Oct 23-24
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Hey Python folks, just sending a heads up, Jessica McKellar will be
speaking at the All Things Open conference at the Raleigh Convention Center
Oct 23-24. http://www.allthingsopen.org/

Registration is currently open for this event, however, it will most likely
sell out very fast (judging by the incredible speaker lineup and past
POSSCON event attendance, which was also organized by Todd Lewis).

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From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Aug 20 18:19:26 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:19:26 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Reminder: TriPython August 2013 Meeting: Open Data Part 2
In-Reply-To: <520417C7.5090307@unc.edu>
References: <520417C7.5090307@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <5213970E.1040605@unc.edu>

Meeting is just two days from now:

On 8/8/2013 6:12 PM, Chris Calloway wrote:
> http://trizpug.org/Members/sgambino/aug-13-mtg
>
> When: Thursday, August 22, 7pm
> Where: WebAssign, NCSU Centennial Campus, 1791 Varsity Drive, Suite 200,
> Raleigh
>
> Jason Hare, Open Data Program Manager for the City of Raleigh, will
> present the second part of our ongoing series of featured talks about
> the Open Data movement. Extemporaneous "lightning talks" of 5-10 minute
> duration are also welcome and don't need to be pre-announced. Plenty of
> free after hours parking is available in the upper level of the deck
> behind WebAssign (turn through the median just before the intersection
> of Varsity and Main Campus Drives). If the door is locked, call the
> number listed on the announcement link above. An after-meeting location
> for food and beverage will be decided at the meeting.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Aug 20 21:16:16 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:16:16 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] RDF and Open Data (was Re:  TriZPUG Digest, Vol 64,
 Issue 6)
In-Reply-To: <CABWRpxAX0R0mHd9X7WoibNEzp2KHmthvRHWPYX90FX3-QDuAdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.21.1376906402.17161.trizpug@python.org>
 <0E61FE5763962A47863836ED8A7D5C7B5E1D33D1@CORMB02.ci.raleigh.nc.us>
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Message-ID: <5213C080.6080701@unc.edu>

On 8/19/2013 6:24 PM, Eric Leary wrote:
> Colin warmed every one up perfectly last month to a lot of the same
> material thats in Josh's book - so I think we are ready for a
> presentation that gets a little closer to the realities of
> implementation for coders. Recently I've gone down the rabbit hole on
> RDF, RDFa, and JASON-LD in trying to understand their future role or
> rejection. Are they dead, or do they just smell funny?

Open Data has breathed new life into RDF via two developments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARQL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoSPARQL

My co-worker in the office next door does SPARQL for metadata ontologies.

I have my doubts about whether ontologies are ever going to be useful, 
however. If disciplines can't agree about metadata and vocabularies, who 
is going to arbitrate metadata translation? Does having a Russian to 
English dictionary translate War and Peace into English on its own?

I've never believed in the semantic web.

> Chris and James were able to point out a lot of paradoxes in principle
> and in day to day trade craft that made me realize how naive I am about
> the "power of open data" and "open anything."

Just to be open, things I pointed out to Eric:

1) Data liability is an obstacle to openness. If I provide data, and you 
provide a service on top of that data, and then your service fails 
because the data I provided you were faulty, am I liable to you even if 
I were providing the best available data in good faith? Many open data 
providers will post a policy that tries to wash off any liability. But 
the law may not recognize such policies. If open data is "use at your 
own risk," can open data every be useful for public safety? For 
investment decisions? Aren't those the kind of things we need open data 
for, the things that matter?

2) Personal privacy is an obstacle to openness and openness is an 
obstacle to personal privacy. Data about people generally needs to be 
anonymized in order protect individual privacy. Yet calls for openness 
have gone so far that the personal names, home addresses, home phone 
numbers, and *salaries* of state government employees are available 
through open data services (luckily NC teachers and university employees 
have somehow been overlooked in this particular boondoggle). I can 
freely look up how much you paid for your house and how much you had to 
borrow for a mortgage. I can look up your political party affiliation, 
your age, race, gender, home address, and which elections you voted in 
over the last several years.

3) Governments hide public data through third party vendor access. Some 
government agencies may hold public but have no legal or budgetary 
mandate to help you find or access it. There's an opportunity there for 
agencies to make money giving private companies the raw public data, and 
then the private companies will charge you for organized search and 
access to public data. Arrest records are public data but you'll need to 
fork over some dollars to private companies to look at this data, just 
enough to discourage it in most cases. Sometimes companies can get 
exclusive rights to distribute public data.

4) Governments will only go so far to allow access to data. The more 
valuable or politically sensitive data is, the more likely it is to be 
"classified" even if paid for by tax dollars. Governments also respond 
to business interests to suppress access to or defund generation of 
data, particularly scientific data. It's easy to access data from 
successful clinical trials. But it's not easy to access data from 
unsuccessful clinical trials. Even when the unsuccessful trials 
outnumber the successful ones by orders of magnitude for a particular drug.

5) Governments can and do own intellectual property which they can and 
do decide to keep proprietary rather than openly license, going so far 
as to generate revenue streams with proprietary licensing. There have 
been bills in front of Congress, so far fortunately unsuccessful, to 
restrict access to nationally financed weather data to only certain 
companies such that you would have to pay those companies to get weather 
reports. Most state university systems operate intellectual property 
offices to capture patents and copyrights for royalties.

6) Providing access to public data is an expensive public service. 
Archiving data long term is super expensive. Cataloging and classifying 
data is labor intensive. Who pays for it? If it comes from access fees, 
does that provide unfair advantages to those who can afford access over 
those who can't but who did help pay for creating the data? When 
financial times are tight and just keeping the public safety net patched 
is a challenge compared to other interests, is open data all that 
important? What if you visited the public library, and all the books 
were piled on a table without Dewey decimal numbers and there were no 
card catalog? What if there were no public library? Data requires the 
online equivalent of libraries and librarians. Is public data an 
essential governmental service?

We have this recent and rather toothless presidential executive order:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/05/09/executive-order-making-open-and-machine-readable-new-default-government-

I'm witnessing the speed of at least one government agency's response to 
this order, however, and know it will be years in the making if at all. 
There are so many silos within that have to agree to all manner of 
standards to make this work. There are so many offerings of standards 
and methods to implement standards from each silo. Every department 
already has a half-assed skunk-works of an open data project already in 
operation. And the management style for most agencies making these 
decisions on how to "come together" is via consensus (so no one gets 
blamed for bad decisions). Having to make the decisions and then 
implement them also are generally not the within the agencies missions, 
so not only are the decisions by consensus, but the implementations are 
pretty much volunteer work. The public at large would be amazed to know 
just how much government function is accomplished via volunteer work by 
mid to low level government employees in addition to their regular jobs.

But it's a start. The real open data movement is occurring at individual 
municipal levels, such as what the City of Raleigh is doing, and also 
occurring by private uplift, such as Code for America in Durham. There's 
also an overlap in what people consider open data and crowd sourced 
data. Open data is more about unlocking access to already existing 
government data.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From eric.leary at gmail.com  Tue Aug 20 21:48:22 2013
From: eric.leary at gmail.com (Eric Leary)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:48:22 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] RDF and Open Data (was Re: TriZPUG Digest, Vol 64,
 Issue 6)
In-Reply-To: <5213C080.6080701@unc.edu>
References: <mailman.21.1376906402.17161.trizpug@python.org>
 <0E61FE5763962A47863836ED8A7D5C7B5E1D33D1@CORMB02.ci.raleigh.nc.us>
 <CABWRpxAX0R0mHd9X7WoibNEzp2KHmthvRHWPYX90FX3-QDuAdA@mail.gmail.com>
 <5213C080.6080701@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <CABWRpxCugzUGWeNV1Fa2HozmRWqEvZ+j-fe=CDh8iQJVM8zZ-w@mail.gmail.com>

This is why I respect Chris!

I want to be sure everyone understands I wasn't trying to call out Chris or
set up a confrontational environment when Jason speaks - I was just trying
to resonate Jason's post that upholding the value of "open data" means
taking responsibility for understanding and communicating some very nuanced
ideas that bridge tech and social values.  I kind of blazed into this
territory very naively back in May, and thanks to Jason and Chris and
Colin, I've realized I have a lot to learn and understand. I thought I was
teeing up these points for discussion on Thursday - and Chris wrote a NY
Times caliber response.

I am trying to be somewhat of a spoiler this week to stimulate some
conversation and buzz before Thursday.  I will cop to that!

This post from Chris makes me feel like I tapped straight into the heart of
things. Very cool post sir.

cheers,

urq






On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:

> On 8/19/2013 6:24 PM, Eric Leary wrote:
>
>> Colin warmed every one up perfectly last month to a lot of the same
>> material thats in Josh's book - so I think we are ready for a
>> presentation that gets a little closer to the realities of
>> implementation for coders. Recently I've gone down the rabbit hole on
>> RDF, RDFa, and JASON-LD in trying to understand their future role or
>> rejection. Are they dead, or do they just smell funny?
>>
>
> Open Data has breathed new life into RDF via two developments:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**SPARQL<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARQL>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**GeoSPARQL<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoSPARQL>
>
> My co-worker in the office next door does SPARQL for metadata ontologies.
>
> I have my doubts about whether ontologies are ever going to be useful,
> however. If disciplines can't agree about metadata and vocabularies, who is
> going to arbitrate metadata translation? Does having a Russian to English
> dictionary translate War and Peace into English on its own?
>
> I've never believed in the semantic web.
>
>  Chris and James were able to point out a lot of paradoxes in principle
>> and in day to day trade craft that made me realize how naive I am about
>> the "power of open data" and "open anything."
>>
>
> Just to be open, things I pointed out to Eric:
>
> 1) Data liability is an obstacle to openness. If I provide data, and you
> provide a service on top of that data, and then your service fails because
> the data I provided you were faulty, am I liable to you even if I were
> providing the best available data in good faith? Many open data providers
> will post a policy that tries to wash off any liability. But the law may
> not recognize such policies. If open data is "use at your own risk," can
> open data every be useful for public safety? For investment decisions?
> Aren't those the kind of things we need open data for, the things that
> matter?
>
> 2) Personal privacy is an obstacle to openness and openness is an obstacle
> to personal privacy. Data about people generally needs to be anonymized in
> order protect individual privacy. Yet calls for openness have gone so far
> that the personal names, home addresses, home phone numbers, and *salaries*
> of state government employees are available through open data services
> (luckily NC teachers and university employees have somehow been overlooked
> in this particular boondoggle). I can freely look up how much you paid for
> your house and how much you had to borrow for a mortgage. I can look up
> your political party affiliation, your age, race, gender, home address, and
> which elections you voted in over the last several years.
>
> 3) Governments hide public data through third party vendor access. Some
> government agencies may hold public but have no legal or budgetary mandate
> to help you find or access it. There's an opportunity there for agencies to
> make money giving private companies the raw public data, and then the
> private companies will charge you for organized search and access to public
> data. Arrest records are public data but you'll need to fork over some
> dollars to private companies to look at this data, just enough to
> discourage it in most cases. Sometimes companies can get exclusive rights
> to distribute public data.
>
> 4) Governments will only go so far to allow access to data. The more
> valuable or politically sensitive data is, the more likely it is to be
> "classified" even if paid for by tax dollars. Governments also respond to
> business interests to suppress access to or defund generation of data,
> particularly scientific data. It's easy to access data from successful
> clinical trials. But it's not easy to access data from unsuccessful
> clinical trials. Even when the unsuccessful trials outnumber the successful
> ones by orders of magnitude for a particular drug.
>
> 5) Governments can and do own intellectual property which they can and do
> decide to keep proprietary rather than openly license, going so far as to
> generate revenue streams with proprietary licensing. There have been bills
> in front of Congress, so far fortunately unsuccessful, to restrict access
> to nationally financed weather data to only certain companies such that you
> would have to pay those companies to get weather reports. Most state
> university systems operate intellectual property offices to capture patents
> and copyrights for royalties.
>
> 6) Providing access to public data is an expensive public service.
> Archiving data long term is super expensive. Cataloging and classifying
> data is labor intensive. Who pays for it? If it comes from access fees,
> does that provide unfair advantages to those who can afford access over
> those who can't but who did help pay for creating the data? When financial
> times are tight and just keeping the public safety net patched is a
> challenge compared to other interests, is open data all that important?
> What if you visited the public library, and all the books were piled on a
> table without Dewey decimal numbers and there were no card catalog? What if
> there were no public library? Data requires the online equivalent of
> libraries and librarians. Is public data an essential governmental service?
>
> We have this recent and rather toothless presidential executive order:
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-**press-office/2013/05/09/**
> executive-order-making-open-**and-machine-readable-new-**
> default-government-<http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/05/09/executive-order-making-open-and-machine-readable-new-default-government->
>
> I'm witnessing the speed of at least one government agency's response to
> this order, however, and know it will be years in the making if at all.
> There are so many silos within that have to agree to all manner of
> standards to make this work. There are so many offerings of standards and
> methods to implement standards from each silo. Every department already has
> a half-assed skunk-works of an open data project already in operation. And
> the management style for most agencies making these decisions on how to
> "come together" is via consensus (so no one gets blamed for bad decisions).
> Having to make the decisions and then implement them also are generally not
> the within the agencies missions, so not only are the decisions by
> consensus, but the implementations are pretty much volunteer work. The
> public at large would be amazed to know just how much government function
> is accomplished via volunteer work by mid to low level government employees
> in addition to their regular jobs.
>
> But it's a start. The real open data movement is occurring at individual
> municipal levels, such as what the City of Raleigh is doing, and also
> occurring by private uplift, such as Code for America in Durham. There's
> also an overlap in what people consider open data and crowd sourced data.
> Open data is more about unlocking access to already existing government
> data.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
> office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
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expectations. Justice is the fulfillment of expectations.  Expectations are
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From eric.leary at gmail.com  Wed Aug 21 04:48:37 2013
From: eric.leary at gmail.com (Eric Leary)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:48:37 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] RDF and Open Data (was Re: TriZPUG Digest, Vol 64,
 Issue 6)
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References: <mailman.21.1376906402.17161.trizpug@python.org>
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The two most recent posts from Manu Sporny <http://manu.sporny.org> are
where I left the bunny trail on Microdata and RDF etc. this weekend. I
hadn't heard of JSON-LD before (second post) and anything JSON sounds more
tractable than anything XML at this point in my personal psychedelic shack
I call my mind. Mileage may vary.

Since I still have to scrape my first web page (thanks to Cris Ewing at the
Python Web Programming Bootcamp for showing me how) my opinion doesn't
count for much. I do make sure tables on my inventory application can be be
downloaded as csv (thanks to Calvin and a productive project night at
Caktus.)

My first real landing point with RDF was a primer by, of all people, Josh
Tauberer from 2008 <http://www.rdfabout.com/intro/>.  He seems to have
cooled a bit sense then. He does point out in his Open Data book that the
Australian government has specified RDF in its Open Data policy, though he
expresses circumspection as to whether it will finally obtain traction.

The SPARQL book recently released by O'Reilly caught my attention because
it turns out the author, Bob DuCharme <http://www.snee.com/bobdc.blog/> works
for a company that moved across the street from Web Assign, Top Quadrant.
(I was looking for work....maybe if I shamelessly shill on our listserv
......)

urq



On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:

> On 8/19/2013 6:24 PM, Eric Leary wrote:
>
>> Colin warmed every one up perfectly last month to a lot of the same
>> material thats in Josh's book - so I think we are ready for a
>> presentation that gets a little closer to the realities of
>> implementation for coders. Recently I've gone down the rabbit hole on
>> RDF, RDFa, and JASON-LD in trying to understand their future role or
>> rejection. Are they dead, or do they just smell funny?
>>
>
> Open Data has breathed new life into RDF via two developments:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**SPARQL<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARQL>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**GeoSPARQL<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoSPARQL>
>
> My co-worker in the office next door does SPARQL for metadata ontologies.
>
> I have my doubts about whether ontologies are ever going to be useful,
> however. If disciplines can't agree about metadata and vocabularies, who is
> going to arbitrate metadata translation? Does having a Russian to English
> dictionary translate War and Peace into English on its own?
>
> I've never believed in the semantic web.
>
>  Chris and James were able to point out a lot of paradoxes in principle
>> and in day to day trade craft that made me realize how naive I am about
>> the "power of open data" and "open anything."
>>
>
> Just to be open, things I pointed out to Eric:
>
> 1) Data liability is an obstacle to openness. If I provide data, and you
> provide a service on top of that data, and then your service fails because
> the data I provided you were faulty, am I liable to you even if I were
> providing the best available data in good faith? Many open data providers
> will post a policy that tries to wash off any liability. But the law may
> not recognize such policies. If open data is "use at your own risk," can
> open data every be useful for public safety? For investment decisions?
> Aren't those the kind of things we need open data for, the things that
> matter?
>
> 2) Personal privacy is an obstacle to openness and openness is an obstacle
> to personal privacy. Data about people generally needs to be anonymized in
> order protect individual privacy. Yet calls for openness have gone so far
> that the personal names, home addresses, home phone numbers, and *salaries*
> of state government employees are available through open data services
> (luckily NC teachers and university employees have somehow been overlooked
> in this particular boondoggle). I can freely look up how much you paid for
> your house and how much you had to borrow for a mortgage. I can look up
> your political party affiliation, your age, race, gender, home address, and
> which elections you voted in over the last several years.
>
> 3) Governments hide public data through third party vendor access. Some
> government agencies may hold public but have no legal or budgetary mandate
> to help you find or access it. There's an opportunity there for agencies to
> make money giving private companies the raw public data, and then the
> private companies will charge you for organized search and access to public
> data. Arrest records are public data but you'll need to fork over some
> dollars to private companies to look at this data, just enough to
> discourage it in most cases. Sometimes companies can get exclusive rights
> to distribute public data.
>
> 4) Governments will only go so far to allow access to data. The more
> valuable or politically sensitive data is, the more likely it is to be
> "classified" even if paid for by tax dollars. Governments also respond to
> business interests to suppress access to or defund generation of data,
> particularly scientific data. It's easy to access data from successful
> clinical trials. But it's not easy to access data from unsuccessful
> clinical trials. Even when the unsuccessful trials outnumber the successful
> ones by orders of magnitude for a particular drug.
>
> 5) Governments can and do own intellectual property which they can and do
> decide to keep proprietary rather than openly license, going so far as to
> generate revenue streams with proprietary licensing. There have been bills
> in front of Congress, so far fortunately unsuccessful, to restrict access
> to nationally financed weather data to only certain companies such that you
> would have to pay those companies to get weather reports. Most state
> university systems operate intellectual property offices to capture patents
> and copyrights for royalties.
>
> 6) Providing access to public data is an expensive public service.
> Archiving data long term is super expensive. Cataloging and classifying
> data is labor intensive. Who pays for it? If it comes from access fees,
> does that provide unfair advantages to those who can afford access over
> those who can't but who did help pay for creating the data? When financial
> times are tight and just keeping the public safety net patched is a
> challenge compared to other interests, is open data all that important?
> What if you visited the public library, and all the books were piled on a
> table without Dewey decimal numbers and there were no card catalog? What if
> there were no public library? Data requires the online equivalent of
> libraries and librarians. Is public data an essential governmental service?
>
> We have this recent and rather toothless presidential executive order:
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-**press-office/2013/05/09/**
> executive-order-making-open-**and-machine-readable-new-**
> default-government-<http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/05/09/executive-order-making-open-and-machine-readable-new-default-government->
>
> I'm witnessing the speed of at least one government agency's response to
> this order, however, and know it will be years in the making if at all.
> There are so many silos within that have to agree to all manner of
> standards to make this work. There are so many offerings of standards and
> methods to implement standards from each silo. Every department already has
> a half-assed skunk-works of an open data project already in operation. And
> the management style for most agencies making these decisions on how to
> "come together" is via consensus (so no one gets blamed for bad decisions).
> Having to make the decisions and then implement them also are generally not
> the within the agencies missions, so not only are the decisions by
> consensus, but the implementations are pretty much volunteer work. The
> public at large would be amazed to know just how much government function
> is accomplished via volunteer work by mid to low level government employees
> in addition to their regular jobs.
>
> But it's a start. The real open data movement is occurring at individual
> municipal levels, such as what the City of Raleigh is doing, and also
> occurring by private uplift, such as Code for America in Durham. There's
> also an overlap in what people consider open data and crowd sourced data.
> Open data is more about unlocking access to already existing government
> data.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
> office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> ______________________________**_________________
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> TriZPUG at python.org
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From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Aug 21 06:25:11 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:25:11 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Raleigh and Coworking
Message-ID: <52144127.9@unc.edu>

Do you live in Raleigh? Are you curious about coworking?

Slip your name in the basket here:

http://bullpenraleigh.launchrock.com/

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Aug 21 06:38:50 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:38:50 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Pyramid Sprint
Message-ID: <5214445A.3010505@unc.edu>

I only found out about this after a couple of friends started tweeting 
from Germany last week...

Report out: 
https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/wiki/Pyramid-and-Pylons-Project-Summer-Sprint-2013-Wrap-Up

Pics or it didn't happen: 
https://plus.google.com/115189453091926671125/posts/KewEQzfB84p

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From Jason.Hare at raleighnc.gov  Wed Aug 21 15:10:37 2013
From: Jason.Hare at raleighnc.gov (Hare, Jason)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:10:37 +0000
Subject: [TriZPUG] TriZPUG Digest, Vol 64, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <mailman.581.1377060002.19983.trizpug@python.org>
References: <mailman.581.1377060002.19983.trizpug@python.org>
Message-ID: <0E61FE5763962A47863836ED8A7D5C7B5E1D4D9A@CORMB02.ci.raleigh.nc.us>

Hi Chris and everyone reading this listerv.

I spoke with Colin yesterday about his experience sharing what he knows about open data around the Triangle with Trizpug. Having been a member of this group in a number of roles first as a plone/zope evangelist and now and open data program manager at the City of Raleigh I know I will be speaking to a more informed crowd than what I usually speak to. My first post was somewhere back in Plone 2.5 days. I asked how to skin a sub folder. I was told if I had to ask I probably should not be trying to do that. The respondent was right. I broke out the Plone bible at the time and started digging into Plone/Zope architecture and did eventually figure out how to do it.

The short answer to sum up Chris's notes on RDF, the semantic web, ontologies and open data in practice is this: open data is a rapidly evolving movement and we iterate what the definition of open data is based on lessons learned. The semantic web never really caught on as it still relied on humans to create and tag text via RDF. RDF as Chris Metcalf from Socrata noted, is making a come-back. 

What my presentation will show is how an open data initiative evolves and how Open Raleigh achieved some traction through developing a policy and strategy and linking the program to public events. Our engagement level is high.

That being said, winning a PTI award for having an open data portal is like saying we are the best of the worst. The open data environment suffers from a lack of UX thinking to make data truly usable to a larger audience (folks outside this group for example). 

What Josh write is an excellent snapshot in time of where we were two years ago. Most of what he wrote, the principles, still work today. I will touch on privacy, usability, the emergence of "my data" and the boondoggle of transparency. http://opengovdata.io/ 

I am hoping this is an interactive session as I certainly don't have all the answers, nor does anyone else. I am looking forward to a lively collaborative session.

Jason Hare
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   1. Re: RDF and Open Data (was Re: TriZPUG Digest, Vol 64, Issue
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   2. Raleigh and Coworking (Chris Calloway)
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:48:37 -0400
From: Eric Leary <eric.leary at gmail.com>
To: "Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group"
	<trizpug at python.org>
Subject: Re: [TriZPUG] RDF and Open Data (was Re: TriZPUG Digest, Vol
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The two most recent posts from Manu Sporny <http://manu.sporny.org> are where I left the bunny trail on Microdata and RDF etc. this weekend. I hadn't heard of JSON-LD before (second post) and anything JSON sounds more tractable than anything XML at this point in my personal psychedelic shack I call my mind. Mileage may vary.

Since I still have to scrape my first web page (thanks to Cris Ewing at the Python Web Programming Bootcamp for showing me how) my opinion doesn't count for much. I do make sure tables on my inventory application can be be downloaded as csv (thanks to Calvin and a productive project night at
Caktus.)

My first real landing point with RDF was a primer by, of all people, Josh Tauberer from 2008 <http://www.rdfabout.com/intro/>.  He seems to have cooled a bit sense then. He does point out in his Open Data book that the Australian government has specified RDF in its Open Data policy, though he expresses circumspection as to whether it will finally obtain traction.

The SPARQL book recently released by O'Reilly caught my attention because it turns out the author, Bob DuCharme <http://www.snee.com/bobdc.blog/> works for a company that moved across the street from Web Assign, Top Quadrant.
(I was looking for work....maybe if I shamelessly shill on our listserv
......)

urq



On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:

> On 8/19/2013 6:24 PM, Eric Leary wrote:
>
>> Colin warmed every one up perfectly last month to a lot of the same 
>> material thats in Josh's book - so I think we are ready for a 
>> presentation that gets a little closer to the realities of 
>> implementation for coders. Recently I've gone down the rabbit hole on 
>> RDF, RDFa, and JASON-LD in trying to understand their future role or 
>> rejection. Are they dead, or do they just smell funny?
>>
>
> Open Data has breathed new life into RDF via two developments:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**SPARQL<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPA
> RQL>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**GeoSPARQL<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> GeoSPARQL>
>
> My co-worker in the office next door does SPARQL for metadata ontologies.
>
> I have my doubts about whether ontologies are ever going to be useful, 
> however. If disciplines can't agree about metadata and vocabularies, 
> who is going to arbitrate metadata translation? Does having a Russian 
> to English dictionary translate War and Peace into English on its own?
>
> I've never believed in the semantic web.
>
>  Chris and James were able to point out a lot of paradoxes in 
> principle
>> and in day to day trade craft that made me realize how naive I am 
>> about the "power of open data" and "open anything."
>>
>
> Just to be open, things I pointed out to Eric:
>
> 1) Data liability is an obstacle to openness. If I provide data, and 
> you provide a service on top of that data, and then your service fails 
> because the data I provided you were faulty, am I liable to you even 
> if I were providing the best available data in good faith? Many open 
> data providers will post a policy that tries to wash off any 
> liability. But the law may not recognize such policies. If open data 
> is "use at your own risk," can open data every be useful for public safety? For investment decisions?
> Aren't those the kind of things we need open data for, the things that 
> matter?
>
> 2) Personal privacy is an obstacle to openness and openness is an 
> obstacle to personal privacy. Data about people generally needs to be 
> anonymized in order protect individual privacy. Yet calls for openness 
> have gone so far that the personal names, home addresses, home phone 
> numbers, and *salaries* of state government employees are available 
> through open data services (luckily NC teachers and university 
> employees have somehow been overlooked in this particular boondoggle). 
> I can freely look up how much you paid for your house and how much you 
> had to borrow for a mortgage. I can look up your political party 
> affiliation, your age, race, gender, home address, and which elections you voted in over the last several years.
>
> 3) Governments hide public data through third party vendor access. 
> Some government agencies may hold public but have no legal or 
> budgetary mandate to help you find or access it. There's an 
> opportunity there for agencies to make money giving private companies 
> the raw public data, and then the private companies will charge you 
> for organized search and access to public data. Arrest records are 
> public data but you'll need to fork over some dollars to private 
> companies to look at this data, just enough to discourage it in most 
> cases. Sometimes companies can get exclusive rights to distribute public data.
>
> 4) Governments will only go so far to allow access to data. The more 
> valuable or politically sensitive data is, the more likely it is to be 
> "classified" even if paid for by tax dollars. Governments also respond 
> to business interests to suppress access to or defund generation of 
> data, particularly scientific data. It's easy to access data from 
> successful clinical trials. But it's not easy to access data from 
> unsuccessful clinical trials. Even when the unsuccessful trials 
> outnumber the successful ones by orders of magnitude for a particular drug.
>
> 5) Governments can and do own intellectual property which they can and 
> do decide to keep proprietary rather than openly license, going so far 
> as to generate revenue streams with proprietary licensing. There have 
> been bills in front of Congress, so far fortunately unsuccessful, to 
> restrict access to nationally financed weather data to only certain 
> companies such that you would have to pay those companies to get 
> weather reports. Most state university systems operate intellectual 
> property offices to capture patents and copyrights for royalties.
>
> 6) Providing access to public data is an expensive public service.
> Archiving data long term is super expensive. Cataloging and 
> classifying data is labor intensive. Who pays for it? If it comes from 
> access fees, does that provide unfair advantages to those who can 
> afford access over those who can't but who did help pay for creating 
> the data? When financial times are tight and just keeping the public 
> safety net patched is a challenge compared to other interests, is open data all that important?
> What if you visited the public library, and all the books were piled 
> on a table without Dewey decimal numbers and there were no card 
> catalog? What if there were no public library? Data requires the 
> online equivalent of libraries and librarians. Is public data an essential governmental service?
>
> We have this recent and rather toothless presidential executive order:
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-**press-office/2013/05/09/**
> executive-order-making-open-**and-machine-readable-new-**
> default-government-<http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/05
> /09/executive-order-making-open-and-machine-readable-new-default-gover
> nment->
>
> I'm witnessing the speed of at least one government agency's response 
> to this order, however, and know it will be years in the making if at all.
> There are so many silos within that have to agree to all manner of 
> standards to make this work. There are so many offerings of standards 
> and methods to implement standards from each silo. Every department 
> already has a half-assed skunk-works of an open data project already 
> in operation. And the management style for most agencies making these 
> decisions on how to "come together" is via consensus (so no one gets blamed for bad decisions).
> Having to make the decisions and then implement them also are 
> generally not the within the agencies missions, so not only are the 
> decisions by consensus, but the implementations are pretty much 
> volunteer work. The public at large would be amazed to know just how 
> much government function is accomplished via volunteer work by mid to 
> low level government employees in addition to their regular jobs.
>
> But it's a start. The real open data movement is occurring at 
> individual municipal levels, such as what the City of Raleigh is 
> doing, and also occurring by private uplift, such as Code for America 
> in Durham. There's also an overlap in what people consider open data and crowd sourced data.
> Open data is more about unlocking access to already existing 
> government data.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
> office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 
> ______________________________**_________________
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> rg/mailman/listinfo/trizpug> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope 
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Do you live in Raleigh? Are you curious about coworking?

Slip your name in the basket here:

http://bullpenraleigh.launchrock.com/

--
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599


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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:38:50 -0400
From: Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu>
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I only found out about this after a couple of friends started tweeting from Germany last week...

Report out: 
https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/wiki/Pyramid-and-Pylons-Project-Summer-Sprint-2013-Wrap-Up

Pics or it didn't happen: 
https://plus.google.com/115189453091926671125/posts/KewEQzfB84p

--
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599


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From chris at archimedeanco.com  Wed Aug 21 22:13:15 2013
From: chris at archimedeanco.com (Chris Rossi)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:13:15 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] I wrote an article about Tent
In-Reply-To: <20130820022843.GL11317@localhost.localdomain>
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I've been doing a lot of thinking along these lines, but more from the
angle of establishing internet standard protocols for these
things--identity (the core one), social connection, *secure* messaging,
data sharing, etc....

It might be interesting to discuss informally if there's time after
tomorrow's meeting, or some other time.

Chris


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Ian G. Jeffries <ian at housejeffries.com>wrote:

> Here it is if anyone's interested:
>
>     http://housejeffries.com/**articles/what-is-tent<http://housejeffries.com/articles/what-is-tent>
>
> (Tent is a protocol for distributed communications and data storage)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian Jeffries
>
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From ian at housejeffries.com  Thu Aug 22 06:38:47 2013
From: ian at housejeffries.com (Ian G. Jeffries)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:38:47 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] I wrote an article about Tent
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References: <20130820022843.GL11317@localhost.localdomain>
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Message-ID: <20130822043847.GQ4016@localhost.localdomain>

Sure thing. I'm always happy to talk about this stuff.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 04:13:15PM -0400, Chris Rossi wrote:
>I've been doing a lot of thinking along these lines, but more from the
>angle of establishing internet standard protocols for these
>things--identity (the core one), social connection, *secure* messaging,
>data sharing, etc....
>
>It might be interesting to discuss informally if there's time after
>tomorrow's meeting, or some other time.
>
>Chris
>
>
>On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Ian G. Jeffries <ian at housejeffries.com>wrote:
>
>> Here it is if anyone's interested:
>>
>>     http://housejeffries.com/**articles/what-is-tent<http://housejeffries.com/articles/what-is-tent>
>>
>> (Tent is a protocol for distributed communications and data storage)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ian Jeffries
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TriZPUG mailing list
>> TriZPUG at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
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From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Aug 27 01:36:27 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:36:27 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] TriPython September 2013 Meeting: Open Data Part 3
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When: Thursday September 26 7pm
Where: Bull City Coworking, 112 S. Duke St., Suite 6, Durham

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/sept-13-mtg

For the third and final meeting in our series on the Open Data movement, 
officials of the North Carolina Department of Public Instruction will 
show us how to access anonymized report card data from around the state. 
Lightning talks are 5 to 10 minutes extemporaneous expositions on a 
topic of interest to you, something you recently learned, kind of like a 
show and tell. We'll be meeting for the first time at Bull City 
Coworking. Please see the parking instructions on the BCC website. A 
wide variety of possibilities for the after-meeting are within steps of BCC.

http://bullcitycoworking.com/location/

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Aug 27 19:13:31 2013
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:13:31 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Jessica McKellar to Speak at October TriPython Meeting
Message-ID: <521CDE3B.4060502@unc.edu>

Thanks to Jeremy Davis tipping us off to Jessica McKellar speaking at 
the All Things Open conference, I noticed the last day of the conference 
is to be the same day as our October general meeting. So I invited 
Jessica to speak to TriPython on a topic of her choosing and she has 
accepted the invitation.

Jessica McKellar is:

* a winner of this year's O'Reilly Open Source Award
* Vice President of OpenHatch
* a director of the Python Software Foundation
* a core developer of Twisted
* co-chair of the PSF Outreach and Education committee
* an organizer of the Boston Python Users Group
* co-organizer of the Boston Python Workshop
* Diversity Outreach Coordinator for PyCon 2014

The topic of Jessica's talk will be announced later. Here's a sample of 
just a few of her past appearances:

http://pyvideo.org/speaker/377/jessica-mckellar

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From omaciel at ogmaciel.com  Tue Aug 27 21:40:59 2013
From: omaciel at ogmaciel.com (Og Maciel)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:40:59 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Python developer position at Red Hat
Message-ID: <404DC6D7-A4C2-4F6E-B128-477697813727@ogmaciel.com>

Feel free to send me a copy of your CV if you'd be interested in joining one of our automation teams here at Red Hat. Job description attached

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From jeremydavis at jeremydavis.biz  Wed Aug 28 02:12:44 2013
From: jeremydavis at jeremydavis.biz (Jeremy Davis)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:12:44 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Jessica McKellar to Speak at October TriPython Meeting
In-Reply-To: <521CDE3B.4060502@unc.edu>
References: <521CDE3B.4060502@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <CACSroP0R=T1QRCQ7cC076G6CGFA5xarmT_e1ckTB6oSaGO+N8w@mail.gmail.com>

That is awesome!! Also, don't forget to extend a huge thanks to Todd Lewis
for bringing Jessica McKellar to town, along with an incredible plethora of
other high quality speakers.

More than 50 speakers from 20 states will participate in the All Things
Open conference.  http://www.allthingsopen.org/why-you-should-attend.html

Cheers!
Jeremy


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:

> Thanks to Jeremy Davis tipping us off to Jessica McKellar speaking at the
> All Things Open conference, I noticed the last day of the conference is to
> be the same day as our October general meeting. So I invited Jessica to
> speak to TriPython on a topic of her choosing and she has accepted the
> invitation.
>
> Jessica McKellar is:
>
> * a winner of this year's O'Reilly Open Source Award
> * Vice President of OpenHatch
> * a director of the Python Software Foundation
> * a core developer of Twisted
> * co-chair of the PSF Outreach and Education committee
> * an organizer of the Boston Python Users Group
> * co-organizer of the Boston Python Workshop
> * Diversity Outreach Coordinator for PyCon 2014
>
> The topic of Jessica's talk will be announced later. Here's a sample of
> just a few of her past appearances:
>
> http://pyvideo.org/speaker/**377/jessica-mckellar<http://pyvideo.org/speaker/377/jessica-mckellar>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
> office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> ______________________________**_________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/trizpug<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug>
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
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From rob.ladd at gmail.com  Wed Aug 28 20:14:50 2013
From: rob.ladd at gmail.com (Rob Ladd)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:14:50 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Jessica McKellar to Speak at October TriPython Meeting
In-Reply-To: <CACSroP0R=T1QRCQ7cC076G6CGFA5xarmT_e1ckTB6oSaGO+N8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <521CDE3B.4060502@unc.edu>
 <CACSroP0R=T1QRCQ7cC076G6CGFA5xarmT_e1ckTB6oSaGO+N8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGTovX7AVCkDXAP1A-MC7EAjkAsjU1kUf+ODkwu9N3TqPLduvQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be there, and several members from my team at work.
Whoop!


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Jeremy Davis
<jeremydavis at jeremydavis.biz>wrote:

> That is awesome!! Also, don't forget to extend a huge thanks to Todd Lewis
> for bringing Jessica McKellar to town, along with an incredible plethora of
> other high quality speakers.
>
> More than 50 speakers from 20 states will participate in the All Things
> Open conference.  http://www.allthingsopen.org/why-you-should-attend.html
>
> Cheers!
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to Jeremy Davis tipping us off to Jessica McKellar speaking at the
>> All Things Open conference, I noticed the last day of the conference is to
>> be the same day as our October general meeting. So I invited Jessica to
>> speak to TriPython on a topic of her choosing and she has accepted the
>> invitation.
>>
>> Jessica McKellar is:
>>
>> * a winner of this year's O'Reilly Open Source Award
>> * Vice President of OpenHatch
>> * a director of the Python Software Foundation
>> * a core developer of Twisted
>> * co-chair of the PSF Outreach and Education committee
>> * an organizer of the Boston Python Users Group
>> * co-organizer of the Boston Python Workshop
>> * Diversity Outreach Coordinator for PyCon 2014
>>
>> The topic of Jessica's talk will be announced later. Here's a sample of
>> just a few of her past appearances:
>>
>> http://pyvideo.org/speaker/**377/jessica-mckellar<http://pyvideo.org/speaker/377/jessica-mckellar>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
>> office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
>> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> TriZPUG mailing list
>> TriZPUG at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/trizpug<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug>
>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>>
>
>
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From eric.leary at gmail.com  Thu Aug 29 14:46:07 2013
From: eric.leary at gmail.com (Eric Leary)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:46:07 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Jessica McKellar to Speak at October TriPython Meeting
In-Reply-To: <521CDE3B.4060502@unc.edu>
References: <521CDE3B.4060502@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <CABWRpxCYKJO_Dhq2g+3LLP=2rTpVF5-Oqm4V4VNmBvkuwsEPxw@mail.gmail.com>

Way to network Mr. Calloway.  I plan to attend as well.

Eric


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:

> Thanks to Jeremy Davis tipping us off to Jessica McKellar speaking at the
> All Things Open conference, I noticed the last day of the conference is to
> be the same day as our October general meeting. So I invited Jessica to
> speak to TriPython on a topic of her choosing and she has accepted the
> invitation.
>
> Jessica McKellar is:
>
> * a winner of this year's O'Reilly Open Source Award
> * Vice President of OpenHatch
> * a director of the Python Software Foundation
> * a core developer of Twisted
> * co-chair of the PSF Outreach and Education committee
> * an organizer of the Boston Python Users Group
> * co-organizer of the Boston Python Workshop
> * Diversity Outreach Coordinator for PyCon 2014
>
> The topic of Jessica's talk will be announced later. Here's a sample of
> just a few of her past appearances:
>
> http://pyvideo.org/speaker/**377/jessica-mckellar<http://pyvideo.org/speaker/377/jessica-mckellar>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
> office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> ______________________________**_________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/trizpug<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug>
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>



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