From bradoaks at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 00:18:30 2009
From: bradoaks at gmail.com (Brad Oaks)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:18:30 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Just wanted to let the local Python group know about this discussion
that is happening over on the TriLUG list.

--bradoaks


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Daniel Sterling <eqhmcow at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Subject: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
To: trilug at trilug.org


Would Trilugers be interested in a Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon? If
there's enough interest, Google is offering to host an event at their
Chapel-Hill office, sometime this or next month.

Google's App Engine (documented at
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/ ) allows you to write a web
application that runs on Google's systems. You write your application
(currently using Python), upload it to Google, and it's live. You can
sign up and deploy applications with no charge (currently, you're not
allowed to exceed bandwidth/CPU usage quotas).

The really nifty part is that GAE allows you to work with Google's
BigTable database system. Referred to by the GAE documentation as the
DataStore, this is no ordinary DBMS; you don't create a pre-defined
relational schema with SQL to use it. Instead, you define models right
in your code, populate them with data, and send them to the DataStore.
For retrieval, you can use either an entity's unique key, or retrieve
all records, filtered and ordered via pre-defined indexes. The
DataStore supports transactions with automatic retry, and
automatically handles redundancy and partitioning. In other words, you
can write a really scalable app without sweating all the hard details
(you just have to make sure your model makes sense :)

App Engine also has several other userful APIs, including integration
with Google's user service and support for Django templates. It's also
possible to use other Python web frameworks (minus their usual RDBMS
hooks).

So, email back if you're interested in getting together to discuss and
hack on code for GAE projects. (I do not work for Google, I just bug
people who do:)

Thanks,
Dan Sterling
--
TriLUG mailing list        : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug
TriLUG FAQ  : http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions

From chris at christophermrossi.com  Tue Feb  3 15:38:01 2009
From: chris at christophermrossi.com (Chris Rossi)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:38:01 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>
	<df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60bf02c00902030638pf058808yd6acaf6b70a45f03@mail.gmail.com>

Brad, that sounds pretty cool.  Please keep TriZPUG (or at least me) in the
loop.

Thanks!
Chris


On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Brad Oaks <bradoaks at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Just wanted to let the local Python group know about this discussion
> that is happening over on the TriLUG list.
>
> --bradoaks
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Daniel Sterling <eqhmcow at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM
> Subject: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
> To: trilug at trilug.org
>
>
> Would Trilugers be interested in a Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon? If
> there's enough interest, Google is offering to host an event at their
> Chapel-Hill office, sometime this or next month.
>
> Google's App Engine (documented at
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/ ) allows you to write a web
> application that runs on Google's systems. You write your application
> (currently using Python), upload it to Google, and it's live. You can
> sign up and deploy applications with no charge (currently, you're not
> allowed to exceed bandwidth/CPU usage quotas).
>
> The really nifty part is that GAE allows you to work with Google's
> BigTable database system. Referred to by the GAE documentation as the
> DataStore, this is no ordinary DBMS; you don't create a pre-defined
> relational schema with SQL to use it. Instead, you define models right
> in your code, populate them with data, and send them to the DataStore.
> For retrieval, you can use either an entity's unique key, or retrieve
> all records, filtered and ordered via pre-defined indexes. The
> DataStore supports transactions with automatic retry, and
> automatically handles redundancy and partitioning. In other words, you
> can write a really scalable app without sweating all the hard details
> (you just have to make sure your model makes sense :)
>
> App Engine also has several other userful APIs, including integration
> with Google's user service and support for Django templates. It's also
> possible to use other Python web frameworks (minus their usual RDBMS
> hooks).
>
> So, email back if you're interested in getting together to discuss and
> hack on code for GAE projects. (I do not work for Google, I just bug
> people who do:)
>
> Thanks,
> Dan Sterling
> --
> TriLUG mailing list        : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug
> TriLUG FAQ  : http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
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From brad.crittenden at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 15:51:31 2009
From: brad.crittenden at gmail.com (Bradley A. Crittenden)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:51:31 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <60bf02c00902030638pf058808yd6acaf6b70a45f03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>
	<df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
	<60bf02c00902030638pf058808yd6acaf6b70a45f03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49641706-5801-428A-980E-285AA3AB0FF0@gmail.com>


On Feb 3, 2009, at 09:38 , Chris Rossi wrote:

> Brad, that sounds pretty cool.  Please keep TriZPUG (or at least me)  
> in the loop.
>
> Thanks!
> Chris

I agree that this sounds really interesting and I'm interested in  
attending.

--bac


From jj at email.unc.edu  Tue Feb  3 15:45:02 2009
From: jj at email.unc.edu (Josh Johnson)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:45:02 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <60bf02c00902030638pf058808yd6acaf6b70a45f03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>	<df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
	<60bf02c00902030638pf058808yd6acaf6b70a45f03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4988586E.7030407@email.unc.edu>

Me too! Me too!

JJ

Chris Rossi wrote:
> Brad, that sounds pretty cool.  Please keep TriZPUG (or at least me) 
> in the loop.
>
> Thanks!
> Chris
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Brad Oaks <bradoaks at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bradoaks at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi folks,
>
>     Just wanted to let the local Python group know about this discussion
>     that is happening over on the TriLUG list.
>
>     --bradoaks
>
>
>     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>     From: Daniel Sterling <eqhmcow at gmail.com <mailto:eqhmcow at gmail.com>>
>     Date: Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM
>     Subject: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
>     To: trilug at trilug.org <mailto:trilug at trilug.org>
>
>
>     Would Trilugers be interested in a Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon? If
>     there's enough interest, Google is offering to host an event at their
>     Chapel-Hill office, sometime this or next month.
>
>     Google's App Engine (documented at
>     http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/ ) allows you to write a web
>     application that runs on Google's systems. You write your application
>     (currently using Python), upload it to Google, and it's live. You can
>     sign up and deploy applications with no charge (currently, you're not
>     allowed to exceed bandwidth/CPU usage quotas).
>
>     The really nifty part is that GAE allows you to work with Google's
>     BigTable database system. Referred to by the GAE documentation as the
>     DataStore, this is no ordinary DBMS; you don't create a pre-defined
>     relational schema with SQL to use it. Instead, you define models right
>     in your code, populate them with data, and send them to the DataStore.
>     For retrieval, you can use either an entity's unique key, or retrieve
>     all records, filtered and ordered via pre-defined indexes. The
>     DataStore supports transactions with automatic retry, and
>     automatically handles redundancy and partitioning. In other words, you
>     can write a really scalable app without sweating all the hard details
>     (you just have to make sure your model makes sense :)
>
>     App Engine also has several other userful APIs, including integration
>     with Google's user service and support for Django templates. It's also
>     possible to use other Python web frameworks (minus their usual RDBMS
>     hooks).
>
>     So, email back if you're interested in getting together to discuss and
>     hack on code for GAE projects. (I do not work for Google, I just bug
>     people who do:)
>
>     Thanks,
>     Dan Sterling
>     --
>     TriLUG mailing list        :
>     http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug
>     TriLUG FAQ  : http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions
>     _______________________________________________
>     TriZPUG mailing list
>     TriZPUG at python.org <mailto:TriZPUG at python.org>
>     http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>     http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group


From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Feb  3 19:40:30 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:40:30 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>
	<df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49888F9E.6050300@unc.edu>

On 2/2/2009 6:18 PM, Brad Oaks wrote:
> Google is offering to host an event at their
> Chapel-Hill office, sometime this or next month.

Google has a Chapel Hill office? Where is it?

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From bgailer at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 20:02:04 2009
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:02:04 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <49888F9E.6050300@unc.edu>
References: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>	<df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
	<49888F9E.6050300@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <498894AB.20505@gmail.com>

Chris Calloway wrote:
> On 2/2/2009 6:18 PM, Brad Oaks wrote:
>> Google is offering to host an event at their
>> Chapel-Hill office, sometime this or next month.
>
> Google has a Chapel Hill office? Where is it?
>
Did you try a Google search? That gives:

http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/news/story/1126258/

"Google operates an office in the Franklin Centre in Chapel Hill with a 
five-person software operation."

-- 
Bob Gailer
Chapel Hill NC
919-636-4239

From jj at email.unc.edu  Tue Feb  3 20:07:01 2009
From: jj at email.unc.edu (Josh Johnson)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:07:01 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <498894AB.20505@gmail.com>
References: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>	<df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>	<49888F9E.6050300@unc.edu>
	<498894AB.20505@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <498895D5.7000606@email.unc.edu>

Googling Google? Doesn't that open a super-massive black hole that will 
soon devour the internet? ;)

JJ

bob gailer wrote:
> Chris Calloway wrote:
>> On 2/2/2009 6:18 PM, Brad Oaks wrote:
>>> Google is offering to host an event at their
>>> Chapel-Hill office, sometime this or next month.
>>
>> Google has a Chapel Hill office? Where is it?
>>
> Did you try a Google search? That gives:
>
> http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/news/story/1126258/
>
> "Google operates an office in the Franklin Centre in Chapel Hill with 
> a five-person software operation."
>


From sampbrauer at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  3 20:17:13 2009
From: sampbrauer at yahoo.com (Sam Brauer)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:17:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <498895D5.7000606@email.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <819294.71479.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It's not a laughing matter...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oCHxB8d20s


--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Josh Johnson <jj at email.unc.edu> wrote:
From: Josh Johnson <jj at email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
To: "Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group" <trizpug at python.org>
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 2:07 PM

Googling Google? Doesn't that open a super-massive black hole that will 
soon devour the internet? ;)

JJ

bob gailer wrote:
> Chris Calloway wrote:
>> On 2/2/2009 6:18 PM, Brad Oaks wrote:
>>> Google is offering to host an event at their
>>> Chapel-Hill office, sometime this or next month.
>>
>> Google has a Chapel Hill office? Where is it?
>>
> Did you try a Google search? That gives:
>
> http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/news/story/1126258/
>
> "Google operates an office in the Franklin Centre in Chapel Hill with

> a five-person software operation."
>

_______________________________________________
TriZPUG mailing list
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http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
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From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Feb  3 22:27:18 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:27:18 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <498894AB.20505@gmail.com>
References: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>	<df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
	<49888F9E.6050300@unc.edu> <498894AB.20505@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4988B6B6.2060507@unc.edu>

On 2/3/2009 2:02 PM, bob gailer wrote:
> Did you try a Google search?

http://tinyurl.com/bpeanh

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From paul at blinkylights.org  Tue Feb  3 23:00:27 2009
From: paul at blinkylights.org (Paul Smith)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:00:27 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2ccd5ba0902021005t485aef41t33e4010a13960893@mail.gmail.com>
	<df7afb5e0902021518m40725ac4taa53f2e9e7c13add@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4988BE7B.3080107@blinkylights.org>

Brad Oaks wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Just wanted to let the local Python group know about this discussion
> that is happening over on the TriLUG list.
>
> --bradoaks
>
>   


    Wow, that's awesome... definitely keep us posted on that.

--Paul Smith


--

From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Feb  3 23:18:58 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:18:58 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Claytron, PyCon, Plone Symposium, and Plone Immersion
Message-ID: <4988C2D2.9010700@unc.edu>

Four events to let you know about. I thought I'd just combine them into 
one email. There are reminder portlets on trizpug.org you can look at later.

1) Clayton Parker from Six Feet Up will be in the area tomorrow and 
Thursday. He's getting in kind of late tomorrow and there is heavy snow 
where he's coming from. Also, I don't know what his schedule is for 
working late while he's here. But I'm going to tentatively schedule that 
interested Plonistas should plan to meet up at Milltown in Carrboro at 
7pm on Thursday for a social. I'll try to post an update tomorrow.

2) PyCon 2009 registration is open:

http://us.pycon.org/2009/about/

Financial aid is available:

http://pycon.blogspot.com/2009/02/pycon-2009-financial-aid-available.html

3) Penn State is hosting Plone Symposium East Coast again. In late May 
this time:

http://plone.org/events/regional/plone-symposium-east-2009/

4) Six Feet Up is hosting a very cool sounding mentored scrum to build a 
Plone site for a worthy non-profit as a training exercise in September:

http://www.sixfeetup.com/news/plone-immersive-training-experience/

Andrew Corcoran and I went to Sixie's Plone mini-conference back in 
November and had a great time. I think they learned a lot about hosting 
such an event and the one this fall will be even better.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From josh_johnson at unc.edu  Wed Feb  4 02:18:39 2009
From: josh_johnson at unc.edu (Josh Johnson)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:18:39 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
In-Reply-To: <819294.71479.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <819294.71479.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4988ECEF.4020204@unc.edu>

Where has that show been all my life?

I was just telling my wife the other day how I'm at _least_ as funny as 
British TV, and what do you know... ;)

JJ

Sam Brauer wrote:
> It's not a laughing matter...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oCHxB8d20s
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 2/3/09, Josh Johnson /<jj at email.unc.edu>/* wrote:
>
>     From: Josh Johnson <jj at email.unc.edu>
>     Subject: Re: [TriZPUG] Fwd: [TriLUG] Google App Engine Hack-a-Thon?
>     To: "Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group"
>     <trizpug at python.org>
>     Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 2:07 PM
>
>     Googling Google? Doesn't that open a super-massive black hole that will 
>     soon devour the internet? ;)
>
>     JJ
>
>     bob gailer wrote:
>     > Chris Calloway wrote:
>     >> On 2/2/2009 6:18 PM, Brad Oaks wrote:
>     >>> Google is offering to host an event at their
>     >>> Chapel-Hill office, sometime this or next
>      month.
>     >>
>     >> Google has a Chapel Hill office? Where is it?
>     >>
>     > Did you try a Google search? That gives:
>     >
>     > http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/news/story/1126258/
>     >
>     > "Google operates an office in the Franklin Centre in Chapel Hill with
>
>     > a five-person software operation."
>     >
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     TriZPUG mailing list
>     TriZPUG at python.org
>     http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>     http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>               
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group


From jj at email.unc.edu  Thu Feb  5 16:23:50 2009
From: jj at email.unc.edu (Josh Johnson)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:23:50 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone Viewlet Manager/Theme "tutorial" posted
Message-ID: <498B0486.7070500@email.unc.edu>

This past week or so, I published a series of posts on my experiences in 
writing my first Plone theme (and only 3 out of 7 posts made it to 
planet plone). Last night I put them all into one page for easy 
reference (mostly for my own sake but it might be helpful to others)

It can be read like a tutorial. It's not complete since I didn't go 
through the steps of breaking the design out into component images for 
(backgrounds or whatever), but all the python, css, zcml and zpt code is 
there and *should* work if you follow along (and make your own damn images).

Here's the URL: 
http://lionfacelemonface.wordpress.com/tutorials/adventures-in-theming-the-complete-saga/

I hope this is helpful,
JJ

p.s.
Feedback is always appreciated






From mbiggers at med.unc.edu  Thu Feb  5 15:36:43 2009
From: mbiggers at med.unc.edu (Mark R. Biggers)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:36:43 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] become a "real" Certficate Authority,
 at (2/12 Thu) TriLUG meeting!
Message-ID: <498AF97B.8040708@med.unc.edu>

FYI, I plan to go, so I can "become a CA":

  The channel topic is "TriLUG.org | Next meeting: 2/12, 7pm, topic is
  "CA Cert", bring two forms of gov't-issued ID to become
  CA-certified".

  http://trilug.org/node/86

 (Read ALL of this, at the URL above)

 > February 12th meeting - CA Cert
 >
 > CAcert.org is a community-driven certificate authority that issues
 > free public key certificates to the public (unlike other certificate
 > authorities which are commercial and sell certificates).
 >
 > At the February TriLUG meeting, we will learn about certificates and
 > certificate authorities, and we will have a chance to become
 > "certified" to issue our own certificates through CA Cert. These
 > certificates can be used to enable SSL on a web server or a mail
 > server.
 >
 > If you would like to be certified, bring 2 forms of government-issued
 > ID. You might also want to do some homework on the CA Cert web site
 > beforehand.
 >
 > Time: Thursday, 12 February, 7:00pm
 > Place: Red Hat HQ, NCSU Centennial Campus
 > Directions:
 > http://www.redhat.com/about/contact/ww/americas/raleigh.html
 > ................................
 > ................................



From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Feb  5 18:48:40 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:48:40 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone Viewlet Manager/Theme "tutorial" posted
In-Reply-To: <498B0486.7070500@email.unc.edu>
References: <498B0486.7070500@email.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <498B2678.8000207@unc.edu>

On 2/5/2009 10:23 AM, Josh Johnson wrote:
> This past week or so, I published a series of posts on my experiences in 
> writing my first Plone theme (and only 3 out of 7 posts made it to 
> planet plone).

Thanks for the heads up.

> http://lionfacelemonface.wordpress.com/tutorials/adventures-in-theming-the-complete-saga/ 

That's awesome. I think you've got the meatiest blog in the ploniverse.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Feb  5 20:45:19 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:45:19 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Claytron, PyCon, Plone Symposium, and Plone Immersion
In-Reply-To: <4988C2D2.9010700@unc.edu>
References: <4988C2D2.9010700@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <498B41CF.3040506@unc.edu>

On 2/3/2009 5:18 PM, Chris Calloway wrote:
> 1) Clayton Parker from Six Feet Up will be in the area tomorrow and 
> Thursday. He's getting in kind of late tomorrow and there is heavy snow 
> where he's coming from. Also, I don't know what his schedule is for 
> working late while he's here. But I'm going to tentatively schedule that 
> interested Plonistas should plan to meet up at Milltown in Carrboro at 
> 7pm on Thursday for a social. I'll try to post an update tomorrow.

Get your drink on. 7pm. Tonight. Milltown. See ya.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From chris at christophermrossi.com  Mon Feb  9 00:04:47 2009
From: chris at christophermrossi.com (Chris Rossi)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:04:47 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Free Plone Book (defective?)
Message-ID: <60bf02c00902081504n14ef7affo2f0139b4f8d8b47a@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, so a while back Amazon sent me a new copy of "Professional Plone
Development" by Martin Aspeli.  According to Amazon, the copy I had was
missing some pages so they sent me a replacement.  I haven't found which
pages were missing.  If you would like my older, defective copy, you're
welcome to it.  As far as I can tell, most of that pages are in there.

Holler if you want it.

Chris
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From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Feb  9 16:55:29 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:55:29 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] New Plone Book
Message-ID: <499051F1.1080507@unc.edu>

There was a new Plone Book released at the beginning of this month:

http://www.packtpub.com/practical-plone-3-beginners-guide-to-building-powerful-websites/book

If you buy it from the publisher (same cost as Amazon), you can get it 
bundled with the PDF version for carrying around on your laptop or PDA 
for an extra $10.

If you buy the book alone from the publisher, you can also use our User 
Group code to get an extra 5% off in addition to the publisher's 10% 
online discount. To get the code, just hover over the publisher's 
portlet on the front page of the TriZPUG website. Note: the User Group 
discount code is not in addition to any other discount. It is not good 
for any discount above 15% off full price. So if you are already getting 
an 18% online discount on a book/PDF bundle, the User Group discount 
will not change the price. It will, however, increase a 10% discount to 15%.

Also, here are a couple of recent blog articles on the publisher's 
website suitable for Plone newbies:

http://www.packtpub.com/article/structure-content-on-plone-site
http://www.packtpub.com/article/safely-manage-different-versions-content-with-plone

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Feb 10 21:05:25 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:05:25 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Upcoming Meetings
Message-ID: <4991DE05.8040405@unc.edu>

Paul is hosting our February meeting at Capstrat:

http://trizpug.org/Members/psmith/feb-09-mtg

He reports that Capstrat finally has guest wifi available now. Yay!

If you would like to present at this meeting, just sound off. Don't ask 
for permission. Just tell us what you are going to do. Or just show up 
and do it.

Also, our March meeting about Vpython has been rescheduled for a week 
earlier than normal due to the conflict with PyCon dates. So the March 
meeting will be on the third Thursday instead of the fourth:

http://trizpug.org/Members/mrevoir/mar-09-mtg/

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From brad.crittenden at gmail.com  Tue Feb 10 21:13:33 2009
From: brad.crittenden at gmail.com (Bradley A. Crittenden)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:13:33 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Upcoming Meetings
In-Reply-To: <4991DE05.8040405@unc.edu>
References: <4991DE05.8040405@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <CBFDC80B-2E9D-407A-A162-F9C6DFC69AA6@gmail.com>


On Feb 10, 2009, at 15:05 , Chris Calloway wrote:

> Paul is hosting our February meeting at Capstrat:
>
> http://trizpug.org/Members/psmith/feb-09-mtg
>
> He reports that Capstrat finally has guest wifi available now. Yay!
>
> If you would like to present at this meeting, just sound off. Don't  
> ask for permission. Just tell us what you are going to do. Or just  
> show up and do it.
>
> Also, our March meeting about Vpython has been rescheduled for a  
> week earlier than normal due to the conflict with PyCon dates. So  
> the March meeting will be on the third Thursday instead of the fourth:
>
> http://trizpug.org/Members/mrevoir/mar-09-mtg/

These meetings have been added to http://socialcarolina.org/ -- we'll  
see if the added geek publicity brings any new people.

--bac


From edmund at unc.edu  Thu Feb 12 19:07:29 2009
From: edmund at unc.edu (Edmund Moseley)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:07:29 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] viewing all transactions for a single Plone object
Message-ID: <20090212130729.kgl2uaquqs000www@webmail5.isis.unc.edu>


Hi Trizpuglians,

One of my users reports that they had entered a substantial amount of 
data into an object, saved it, made a workflow transition, another user 
witnessed these changes, only for later the changes to disappear.

I believe the magic 'undo' feature will no longer work, as this 
happened a few days ago. I know it is possible to view the workflow 
history of an object, but is there any way of viewing all edits to a 
specific object?

Unfortunately we are still using Plone 2.5.2, and look forward to the 
version control goodness of Plone 3 (almost finished our migration!)

Cheers for any ideas,
-- 
Edmund Moseley
Databases Analyst
NC Office of the Chief Medical Examiner

From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Feb 12 22:26:19 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:26:19 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] viewing all transactions for a single Plone object
In-Reply-To: <20090212130729.kgl2uaquqs000www@webmail5.isis.unc.edu>
References: <20090212130729.kgl2uaquqs000www@webmail5.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <499493FB.5010907@unc.edu>

On 2/12/2009 1:07 PM, Edmund Moseley wrote:
> I believe the magic 'undo' feature will no longer work, as this happened 
> a few days ago. I know it is possible to view the workflow history of an 
> object, but is there any way of viewing all edits to a specific object?

Until you pack a ZODB, deleted objects still exist in the database.

Now, how you might find those deleted pnodes is the $64,000 question.

CMFEditions and CMFDiff can be installed on Plone 2.5, also, to get the 
same versioning you get in Plone 3. Of course, that doesn't do you any 
good after the fact.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From sampbrauer at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 12 23:17:43 2009
From: sampbrauer at yahoo.com (Sam Brauer)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:17:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TriZPUG] viewing all transactions for a single Plone object
In-Reply-To: <499493FB.5010907@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <240287.41778.qm@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

In unrestricted code (if you're using zeo, try "zopectl debug"), you can call object._p_jar.db().history(object._p_oid, None, 10)
to get metadata about the last 10 changes to an object.
You'll get a list of dictionaries back.
Each dictionary has the keys: 'description', 'version', 'time', 'tid', 'user_name', 'size'

The most interesting of these are time, user_name, and tid (transaction id).

To get the old state of an object (as a dictionary of its attribute names and values), call
object._p_jar.oldstate(object, tid)

If this is at all helpful, you can paypal me the $64,000?? ;)


--- On Thu, 2/12/09, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:
From: Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu>
Subject: Re: [TriZPUG] viewing all transactions for a single Plone object
To: "Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group" <trizpug at python.org>
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 4:26 PM

On 2/12/2009 1:07 PM, Edmund Moseley wrote:
> I believe the magic 'undo' feature will no longer work, as this
happened a few days ago. I know it is possible to view the workflow history of
an object, but is there any way of viewing all edits to a specific object?

Until you pack a ZODB, deleted objects still exist in the database.

Now, how you might find those deleted pnodes is the $64,000 question.

CMFEditions and CMFDiff can be installed on Plone 2.5, also, to get the same
versioning you get in Plone 3. Of course, that doesn't do you any good after
the fact.

-- Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599



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From Jason.Hare at dpsnc.net  Fri Feb 13 14:33:50 2009
From: Jason.Hare at dpsnc.net (Jason Hare)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:33:50 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] New to Plone (3) just launched our site: New TrizPug
	member-
In-Reply-To: <mailman.45.1234522827.13954.trizpug@python.org>
References: <mailman.45.1234522827.13954.trizpug@python.org>
Message-ID: <6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24F096244@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>

I have some basic questions- I read through the following:

The plone.org  website, the User's Guide to Plone (from Enfold- we run
proxy server on windows IIS6) and I read a good chunk of the Martin
Aspelli book.

My questions are- 

1. I use the ZMI to pack the DB every Friday and I have yet to get how
to run the repozo script to make backups- I wrote a .bat file and I seem
to be having problems determining the PYTHONPATH that is a requirement
in running repozo.py. In windows I assuming (perhaps incorrectly-) that
the PATH is looking for python.exe. I have included a copy of our .bat-
maybe some one has a tip?

SET PYTHONPATH=C:\Python24
"C:\Python24\python.exe" "E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py" -Bvz -r
"E:\backup" -f "E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs"

'My file locations 
'C:\Python24\python.exe  - location of our python.exe
'E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py - location of the repozo.py file
'E:\backup - folder created to store the backup.
'E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs - location of our database -
Data.fs

2. This is a serious Noob question I know but I also can't seem to find
a simple yes no answer to this question- I am sure it is yes and perhaps
a pointer to a tutorial would be great- I want to have a custom skin on
a custom template for a particular folder- this is possible? I was
thinking that this might be the approach:

http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/applying-a-custom-view-to-a-specif
ic-folder

So I would then have to create a template and a skin to add the custom
view?

3. We used sixfeetup to build our template and a customized version of
the plone4artists calendar and watching them do a buildout it always
seems they have to seriously customize the buildout script for whatever
it is they are publishing- so far I have not been able to get a step by
step- I would like to use a windows specific svn and buildout deployment
tool (not sure if this is the right terminology). Any recommendations
would be appreciated.

I hope to contribute as much as I am given help thank you so much for
reading this and providing any advice...

Sincerely

Jason Hare
Webmaster
Durham public Schools
 

From stepht at duke.edu  Fri Feb 13 14:58:23 2009
From: stepht at duke.edu (Stephanie Thirolle)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:58:23 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] New to Plone (3) just launched our site: New TrizPug
 member-
In-Reply-To: <6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24F096244@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>
References: <mailman.45.1234522827.13954.trizpug@python.org>
	<6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24F096244@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>
Message-ID: <49957C7F.7010802@duke.edu>

Hey Jason,
    I can help a bit with #2....what version of Plone are you running, 
and are you building your views in the zmi or on the file system?

Stephanie Thirolle, Nicholas School, Duke University

Jason Hare wrote:
> I have some basic questions- I read through the following:
>
> The plone.org  website, the User's Guide to Plone (from Enfold- we run
> proxy server on windows IIS6) and I read a good chunk of the Martin
> Aspelli book.
>
> My questions are- 
>
> 1. I use the ZMI to pack the DB every Friday and I have yet to get how
> to run the repozo script to make backups- I wrote a .bat file and I seem
> to be having problems determining the PYTHONPATH that is a requirement
> in running repozo.py. In windows I assuming (perhaps incorrectly-) that
> the PATH is looking for python.exe. I have included a copy of our .bat-
> maybe some one has a tip?
>
> SET PYTHONPATH=C:\Python24
> "C:\Python24\python.exe" "E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py" -Bvz -r
> "E:\backup" -f "E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs"
>
> 'My file locations 
> 'C:\Python24\python.exe  - location of our python.exe
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py - location of the repozo.py file
> 'E:\backup - folder created to store the backup.
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs - location of our database -
> Data.fs
>
> 2. This is a serious Noob question I know but I also can't seem to find
> a simple yes no answer to this question- I am sure it is yes and perhaps
> a pointer to a tutorial would be great- I want to have a custom skin on
> a custom template for a particular folder- this is possible? I was
> thinking that this might be the approach:
>
> http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/applying-a-custom-view-to-a-specif
> ic-folder
>
> So I would then have to create a template and a skin to add the custom
> view?
>
> 3. We used sixfeetup to build our template and a customized version of
> the plone4artists calendar and watching them do a buildout it always
> seems they have to seriously customize the buildout script for whatever
> it is they are publishing- so far I have not been able to get a step by
> step- I would like to use a windows specific svn and buildout deployment
> tool (not sure if this is the right terminology). Any recommendations
> would be appreciated.
>
> I hope to contribute as much as I am given help thank you so much for
> reading this and providing any advice...
>
> Sincerely
>
> Jason Hare
> Webmaster
> Durham public Schools
>  
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>   

-- 
Stephanie Thirolle
Director of Web Projects
Nicholas School of the Environment
Duke University

stepht at duke.edu

p:(919)572-5639
f:(919)572-5681

www.nicholas.duke.edu



From chris at christophermrossi.com  Fri Feb 13 16:52:14 2009
From: chris at christophermrossi.com (Chris Rossi)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:52:14 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] New to Plone (3) just launched our site: New TrizPug
	member-
In-Reply-To: <6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24F096244@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>
References: <mailman.45.1234522827.13954.trizpug@python.org>
	<6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24F096244@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>
Message-ID: <60bf02c00902130752k53c25722s11dc47f73ec79a10@mail.gmail.com>

Regarding, 1), what is the output of running that command for you?

As far as a Windows SVN tool, I'm a big fan of TortoiseSVN.  It's one of
maybe two things that I actually miss from Windows.  I am not aware of a
tool to make buildouts easier, though.  Feel free to ping me with specific
questions.

Chris




On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Jason Hare <Jason.Hare at dpsnc.net> wrote:

> I have some basic questions- I read through the following:
>
> The plone.org  website, the User's Guide to Plone (from Enfold- we run
> proxy server on windows IIS6) and I read a good chunk of the Martin
> Aspelli book.
>
> My questions are-
>
> 1. I use the ZMI to pack the DB every Friday and I have yet to get how
> to run the repozo script to make backups- I wrote a .bat file and I seem
> to be having problems determining the PYTHONPATH that is a requirement
> in running repozo.py. In windows I assuming (perhaps incorrectly-) that
> the PATH is looking for python.exe. I have included a copy of our .bat-
> maybe some one has a tip?
>
> SET PYTHONPATH=C:\Python24
> "C:\Python24\python.exe" "E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py" -Bvz -r
> "E:\backup" -f "E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs"
>
> 'My file locations
> 'C:\Python24\python.exe  - location of our python.exe
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py - location of the repozo.py file
> 'E:\backup - folder created to store the backup.
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs - location of our database -
> Data.fs
>
> 2. This is a serious Noob question I know but I also can't seem to find
> a simple yes no answer to this question- I am sure it is yes and perhaps
> a pointer to a tutorial would be great- I want to have a custom skin on
> a custom template for a particular folder- this is possible? I was
> thinking that this might be the approach:
>
> http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/applying-a-custom-view-to-a-specif
> ic-folder<http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/applying-a-custom-view-to-a-specif%0Aic-folder>
>
> So I would then have to create a template and a skin to add the custom
> view?
>
> 3. We used sixfeetup to build our template and a customized version of
> the plone4artists calendar and watching them do a buildout it always
> seems they have to seriously customize the buildout script for whatever
> it is they are publishing- so far I have not been able to get a step by
> step- I would like to use a windows specific svn and buildout deployment
> tool (not sure if this is the right terminology). Any recommendations
> would be appreciated.
>
> I hope to contribute as much as I am given help thank you so much for
> reading this and providing any advice...
>
> Sincerely
>
> Jason Hare
> Webmaster
> Durham public Schools
>
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
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From cbc at unc.edu  Fri Feb 13 19:35:28 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:35:28 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] viewing all transactions for a single Plone object
In-Reply-To: <240287.41778.qm@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <240287.41778.qm@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4995BD70.10007@unc.edu>

On 2/12/2009 5:17 PM, Sam Brauer wrote:
> If this is at all helpful, you can paypal me the $64,000   ;)

Thanks, Sam. Check's in the mail.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From david at handysoftware.com  Fri Feb 13 19:12:20 2009
From: david at handysoftware.com (David Handy)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:12:20 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] New to Plone (3) just launched our site: New
	TrizPug	member-
In-Reply-To: <6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24F096244@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>
References: <mailman.45.1234522827.13954.trizpug@python.org>
	<6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24F096244@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>
Message-ID: <20090213181220.GA24566@arno2>

I can partly answer at least a couple of your questions -

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 08:33:50AM -0500, Jason Hare wrote:
> I wrote a .bat file and I seem to be having problems determining the
> PYTHONPATH that is a requirement in running repozo.py. In windows I
> assuming (perhaps incorrectly-) that the PATH is looking for python.exe. 

Yes, that is incorrect. PYTHONPATH is about finding python modules (imported
files that end with a .py extension.) If Python runs at all, then it already
knows about the directory containing python.exe, and has already put that in
the "python path" by default. You don't need to put the directory containing
python.exe in PYTHONPATH.

> I have included a copy of our .bat-
> maybe some one has a tip?
> 
> SET PYTHONPATH=C:\Python24
> "C:\Python24\python.exe" "E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py" -Bvz -r
> "E:\backup" -f "E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs"
> 
> 'My file locations 
> 'C:\Python24\python.exe  - location of our python.exe
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py - location of the repozo.py file
> 'E:\backup - folder created to store the backup.
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs - location of our database -
> Data.fs

Your batch file gave Python the full name of the repozo.py file, so Python
already knows how to find that file. So PYTHONPATH is not the issue there
either.

What were your symptoms when you tried to run your batch file? If you posted
the actual error message, that might help.

David H

-- 
David Handy
Computer Programming is Fun!
Beginning Computer Programming with Python
http://www.handysoftware.com/cpif/

From cbc at unc.edu  Fri Feb 13 20:21:06 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:21:06 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] New to Plone (3) just launched our site: New TrizPug
 member-
In-Reply-To: <6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24F096244@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>
References: <mailman.45.1234522827.13954.trizpug@python.org>
	<6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24F096244@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>
Message-ID: <4995C822.80902@unc.edu>

On 2/13/2009 8:33 AM, Jason Hare wrote:
> 1. I use the ZMI to pack the DB every Friday and I have yet to get how
> to run the repozo script to make backups- I wrote a .bat file and I seem
> to be having problems determining the PYTHONPATH that is a requirement
> in running repozo.py. In windows I assuming (perhaps incorrectly-) that
> the PATH is looking for python.exe. I have included a copy of our .bat-
> maybe some one has a tip?
> 
> SET PYTHONPATH=C:\Python24
> "C:\Python24\python.exe" "E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py" -Bvz -r
> "E:\backup" -f "E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs"
> 
> 'My file locations 
> 'C:\Python24\python.exe  - location of our python.exe
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py - location of the repozo.py file
> 'E:\backup - folder created to store the backup.
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs - location of our database -
> Data.fs

You need to use the Python used by your Zope. Since this is on Windows, 
did you use the Enfold Plone installer? Or a buildout?

Either way, it is unlikely that your Zope uses the system Python at 
C:\Python24. Unless somebody did something I haven't seen anybody do 
before. Like use a system Python on Windows to install and run Plone.

You need to look in your Zope instances etc/zope.conf file or your 
buildout config to find the correct Python.

The PYTHONPATH will need to be set to where your Zope codebase's 
libraries are.

For instance, here's the script that does the incremental daily backup 
of trizpug.org. You will need to adjust this for Windows, of course:

#!/bin/bash

# backup trizpug
# cron daily as zopemgr

PYTHONHOME=/usr/local/Zope2.7.6/bin
ZOPEHOME=/usr/local/Zope2.7.6/lib/python
ZODBHOME=/var/lib/Zope2.7.6/var

export PYTHONPATH=${ZOPEHOME}
${PYTHONHOME}/python \
     ${PYTHONHOME}/repozo.py \
         -B \
         -r ${ZODBHOME} \
         -f ${ZODBHOME}/Data.fs \
         -z

Six Feet Up should be able to advise you where they put your Zope's 
python and libraries.

> 2. This is a serious Noob question I know but I also can't seem to find
> a simple yes no answer to this question- I am sure it is yes and perhaps
> a pointer to a tutorial would be great- I want to have a custom skin on
> a custom template for a particular folder- this is possible? I was
> thinking that this might be the approach:
> 
> http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/applying-a-custom-view-to-a-specif
> ic-folder
> 
> So I would then have to create a template and a skin to add the custom
> view?

The simple answer is yes.

The less simple answer is there are many ways to do this. At least four 
are shown on the tutorial you reference.

But judging from these questions, you may be in over your head.

Josh, when is the next Plone Jam?

Six Feet Up was in town just last week giving a two day tutorial on how 
to do this in downtown Durham. You might want to ping them.

> 3. We used sixfeetup to build our template and a customized version of
> the plone4artists calendar and watching them do a buildout it always
> seems they have to seriously customize the buildout script for whatever
> it is they are publishing- so far I have not been able to get a step by
> step- I would like to use a windows specific svn and buildout deployment
> tool (not sure if this is the right terminology). Any recommendations
> would be appreciated.

http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/using-buildout-on-windows

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From edmund at unc.edu  Sat Feb 14 05:12:26 2009
From: edmund at unc.edu (Edmund Moseley)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:12:26 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] viewing all transactions for a single Plone object
Message-ID: <20090213231226.t2vuht4z4ssooggo@webmail4.isis.unc.edu>


Thank you all for the suggestions.

Sam, those _p_jar tricks are awesome!  I have played about in 'zopectl 
debug' before, but only aware of the current state of objects. 
Inspecting the object in question, I could see that it had been edited 
53 times in 3 days. The user's claim was that certain fields were 
entered initially, and disappeared at some point in time.  From the 
values stored in the history, it appears that values for said fields, 
only got entered in the later transactions (...and remain there). User 
error perhaps?



From jhare at madtek.com  Sat Feb 14 13:56:02 2009
From: jhare at madtek.com (Jason Hare)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:56:02 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] New to Plone (3) just launched our site: New TrizPug
	member-
In-Reply-To: <mailman.49.1234609211.5449.trizpug@python.org>
References: <mailman.49.1234609211.5449.trizpug@python.org>
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From Jason.Hare at dpsnc.net  Sun Feb 15 22:05:57 2009
From: Jason.Hare at dpsnc.net (Jason Hare)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:05:57 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] TriZPUG Digest, Vol 10, Issue 10
References: <mailman.49.1234609211.5449.trizpug@python.org>
Message-ID: <6A44B3D19F09C749A8F0B825FF1ED24FE51C@MAIL02.dpsnc.local>

In regards to anything in Plone being over my head- yes I am new to Plone- but not new to Zope. Some things have changed since 2001- the last time I worked on a Zope site- There is also some pretty lively debates on nabble about whether the templating and skinning options listed in my skinning a single folder question are valid in plone 3- I thought I would ask to make sure before I spent a bunch of time learning how to do something and then finding out it would not do me much good-
 
In windows there are some repozo differences which I found out by reading further and discussing with sixfeetup concerning the reposzo.exe they put in our buildout. It does the same thing as the bat file I wrote to use repozo.script.py but whatever- as long as my backups work I am happy.
 
Thanks again for the TortiseSVN tip-
 
Jason

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:21:06 -0500
From: Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu>
Subject: Re: [TriZPUG] New to Plone (3) just launched our site: New
        TrizPug member-
To: "Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group"
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On 2/13/2009 8:33 AM, Jason Hare wrote:
> 1. I use the ZMI to pack the DB every Friday and I have yet to get how
> to run the repozo script to make backups- I wrote a .bat file and I seem
> to be having problems determining the PYTHONPATH that is a requirement
> in running repozo.py. In windows I assuming (perhaps incorrectly-) that
> the PATH is looking for python.exe. I have included a copy of our .bat-
> maybe some one has a tip?
>
> SET PYTHONPATH=C:\Python24
> "C:\Python24\python.exe" "E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py" -Bvz -r
> "E:\backup" -f "E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs"
>
> 'My file locations
> 'C:\Python24\python.exe  - location of our python.exe
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\bin\repozo.py - location of the repozo.py file
> 'E:\backup - folder created to store the backup.
> 'E:\dpsnc_site\var\filestorage\Data.fs - location of our database -
> Data.fs

You need to use the Python used by your Zope. Since this is on Windows,
did you use the Enfold Plone installer? Or a buildout?

Either way, it is unlikely that your Zope uses the system Python at
C:\Python24. Unless somebody did something I haven't seen anybody do
before. Like use a system Python on Windows to install and run Plone.

You need to look in your Zope instances etc/zope.conf file or your
buildout config to find the correct Python.

The PYTHONPATH will need to be set to where your Zope codebase's
libraries are.

For instance, here's the script that does the incremental daily backup
of trizpug.org. You will need to adjust this for Windows, of course:

#!/bin/bash

# backup trizpug
# cron daily as zopemgr

PYTHONHOME=/usr/local/Zope2.7.6/bin
ZOPEHOME=/usr/local/Zope2.7.6/lib/python
ZODBHOME=/var/lib/Zope2.7.6/var

export PYTHONPATH=${ZOPEHOME}
${PYTHONHOME}/python \
     ${PYTHONHOME}/repozo.py \
         -B \
         -r ${ZODBHOME} \
         -f ${ZODBHOME}/Data.fs \
         -z

Six Feet Up should be able to advise you where they put your Zope's
python and libraries.

> 2. This is a serious Noob question I know but I also can't seem to find
> a simple yes no answer to this question- I am sure it is yes and perhaps
> a pointer to a tutorial would be great- I want to have a custom skin on
> a custom template for a particular folder- this is possible? I was
> thinking that this might be the approach:
>
> http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/applying-a-custom-view-to-a-specif
> ic-folder
>
> So I would then have to create a template and a skin to add the custom
> view?

The simple answer is yes.

The less simple answer is there are many ways to do this. At least four
are shown on the tutorial you reference.

But judging from these questions, you may be in over your head.

Josh, when is the next Plone Jam?

Six Feet Up was in town just last week giving a two day tutorial on how
to do this in downtown Durham. You might want to ping them.

> 3. We used sixfeetup to build our template and a customized version of
> the plone4artists calendar and watching them do a buildout it always
> seems they have to seriously customize the buildout script for whatever
> it is they are publishing- so far I have not been able to get a step by
> step- I would like to use a windows specific svn and buildout deployment
> tool (not sure if this is the right terminology). Any recommendations
> would be appreciated.

http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/using-buildout-on-windows

--
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org <http://www.secoora.org/> 
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599





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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:12:26 -0500
From: Edmund Moseley <edmund at unc.edu>
Subject: Re: [TriZPUG] viewing all transactions for a single Plone
        object
To: trizpug at python.org
Message-ID: <20090213231226.t2vuht4z4ssooggo at webmail4.isis.unc.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=ISO-8859-1;     format="flowed"


Thank you all for the suggestions.

Sam, those _p_jar tricks are awesome!  I have played about in 'zopectl
debug' before, but only aware of the current state of objects.
Inspecting the object in question, I could see that it had been edited
53 times in 3 days. The user's claim was that certain fields were
entered initially, and disappeared at some point in time.  From the
values stored in the history, it appears that values for said fields,
only got entered in the later transactions (...and remain there). User
error perhaps?




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From joshua.r.smith at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 01:59:35 2009
From: joshua.r.smith at gmail.com (joshua.r.smith)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:59:35 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] plone buildout vs. unified installer
Message-ID: <D3FA9C52-0255-4522-B944-9D41A53C6EF7@gmail.com>

Hey guys, this is Joshua. I went to a few of your meetings when I was  
still living in the area before moving to Pittsburgh. I was the guy  
talking about using plone and LaTeX to make a solution archive for  
problem sets in science and engineering. I've been working on this  
project in my (vanishingly small) spare time and I've run into a  
snarl: I don't understand why the unified installer seems to install  
everything (python 2.4, zope, and plone), but doing a buildout  
(following Martin Aspeli's tutorial) seems to install zope, but not  
plone. I'm sure that its a simple issue and I'm guessing you guys can  
help me. Apologies in advance for being such a noob.

I downloaded the Plone 3.1.6 r2 unified installer a few months back  
and I've been trying to install a buildout locally on my machine. Once  
I uncompressed the package, I executed

Beeta:Plone-3.1.6-r2-UnifiedInstaller jrsmith3$ ./install.sh standalone

in order to get everything set up in /Users/jrsmith3/Plone-3.1. It  
looks like plone, zope, and python 2.4 get installed into that  
directory and I can run:

jrsmith3$ ~/Plone-3.1/zinstance/bin/instance start

to start up zope and plone. I can use my browser to go to

http://localhost:8080/

and

http://localhost:8080/Plone/

to see the zope landing page and my plone install, respectively.

This is all great, but I want to be able to make a plone buildout in a  
different location for the purposes of hacking, so that in the event  
that I break something I can just wipe out the directory and start  
over. Also, once I get my LaTeX product set up I want to be able to  
use a buildout to install a fully working plone setup. From what I  
understand, I can make modifications to the default buildout and  
install custom products using buildout.cfg, so I think I'm on the  
right track.

So, I try to follow Martin Aspeli's tutorial

http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/buildout/tutorial-all-pages

to make some buildouts. It looks like it works if I use python 2.4  
installed in ~/Plone-3.1/Python-2.4 instead of my system python. I do:

$ ~/Plone-3.1/Python-2.4/bin/paster create -t plone3_buildout myproject

cd into the myproject dir, run bootstrap.sh and buildout, and then I  
can see the zope landing page in my browser. The problem is, I can't  
see http://localhost:8080/Plone/ in my browser. What is going on, and  
what am I missing here? Does buildout not install plone? Why is the  
unified installer install plone?

Thanks in advance for your patience with such a noob question.

Best,
Joshua
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From cr at spacelabstudio.com  Tue Feb 17 03:44:10 2009
From: cr at spacelabstudio.com (Chris Rossi)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:44:10 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] plone buildout vs. unified installer
In-Reply-To: <D3FA9C52-0255-4522-B944-9D41A53C6EF7@gmail.com>
References: <D3FA9C52-0255-4522-B944-9D41A53C6EF7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60bf02c00902161844o1a9d0663x45f75a43ef473dc0@mail.gmail.com>

In the zmi add a plone site.

Chris

On 2/16/09, joshua. r. smith <joshua.r.smith at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys, this is Joshua. I went to a few of your meetings when I was
> still living in the area before moving to Pittsburgh. I was the guy
> talking about using plone and LaTeX to make a solution archive for
> problem sets in science and engineering. I've been working on this
> project in my (vanishingly small) spare time and I've run into a
> snarl: I don't understand why the unified installer seems to install
> everything (python 2.4, zope, and plone), but doing a buildout
> (following Martin Aspeli's tutorial) seems to install zope, but not
> plone. I'm sure that its a simple issue and I'm guessing you guys can
> help me. Apologies in advance for being such a noob.
>
> I downloaded the Plone 3.1.6 r2 unified installer a few months back
> and I've been trying to install a buildout locally on my machine. Once
> I uncompressed the package, I executed
>
> Beeta:Plone-3.1.6-r2-UnifiedInstaller jrsmith3$ ./install.sh standalone
>
> in order to get everything set up in /Users/jrsmith3/Plone-3.1. It
> looks like plone, zope, and python 2.4 get installed into that
> directory and I can run:
>
> jrsmith3$ ~/Plone-3.1/zinstance/bin/instance start
>
> to start up zope and plone. I can use my browser to go to
>
> http://localhost:8080/
>
> and
>
> http://localhost:8080/Plone/
>
> to see the zope landing page and my plone install, respectively.
>
> This is all great, but I want to be able to make a plone buildout in a
> different location for the purposes of hacking, so that in the event
> that I break something I can just wipe out the directory and start
> over. Also, once I get my LaTeX product set up I want to be able to
> use a buildout to install a fully working plone setup. From what I
> understand, I can make modifications to the default buildout and
> install custom products using buildout.cfg, so I think I'm on the
> right track.
>
> So, I try to follow Martin Aspeli's tutorial
>
> http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/buildout/tutorial-all-pages
>
> to make some buildouts. It looks like it works if I use python 2.4
> installed in ~/Plone-3.1/Python-2.4 instead of my system python. I do:
>
> $ ~/Plone-3.1/Python-2.4/bin/paster create -t plone3_buildout myproject
>
> cd into the myproject dir, run bootstrap.sh and buildout, and then I
> can see the zope landing page in my browser. The problem is, I can't
> see http://localhost:8080/Plone/ in my browser. What is going on, and
> what am I missing here? Does buildout not install plone? Why is the
> unified installer install plone?
>
> Thanks in advance for your patience with such a noob question.
>
> Best,
> Joshua

From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Feb 18 15:44:59 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:44:59 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] PyCon Early Bird Registration Ends Saturday
Message-ID: <499C1EEB.9060507@unc.edu>

This year PyCon is in Chicago again, at the end of March (March 27-29).
The last day for early-bird registration is this Saturday.

List of accepted talks:
    http://us.pycon.org/2009/conference/talks/

Keynotes and invited talks:
    http://us.pycon.org/2009/conference/keynotes/

Sprints:
    http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/

Tutorial Days:
    http://us.pycon.org/2009/tutorials/schedule/

Registration information:
    http://us.pycon.org/2009/registration/

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Feb 18 21:27:05 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:27:05 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] PyCon Early Bird Registration Ends Saturday
In-Reply-To: <499C1EEB.9060507@unc.edu>
References: <499C1EEB.9060507@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <499C6F19.8020405@unc.edu>

Hotel reservations at the conference rates are still available, but
not for long: <http://us.pycon.org/2009/registration/hotel/>. Act now,
because the regular rate is considerably higher!

On 2/18/2009 9:44 AM, Chris Calloway wrote:
> This year PyCon is in Chicago again, at the end of March (March 27-29).
> The last day for early-bird registration is this Saturday.
> 
> List of accepted talks:
>    http://us.pycon.org/2009/conference/talks/
> 
> Keynotes and invited talks:
>    http://us.pycon.org/2009/conference/keynotes/
> 
> Sprints:
>    http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/
> 
> Tutorial Days:
>    http://us.pycon.org/2009/tutorials/schedule/
> 
> Registration information:
>    http://us.pycon.org/2009/registration/
> 

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From bsoher at briansoher.com  Fri Feb 20 16:18:33 2009
From: bsoher at briansoher.com (Brian J. Soher)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:18:33 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Duke Radiology research lab looking for Python developer
Message-ID: <200902201518.n1KFIeuE004268@richalieu.duhs.duke.edu>


Dr. Brian Soher of the Duke Center for Advanced Magnetic Resonance
Development lab is looking to hire a Senior Python C/C++ Programmer.

Our lab designs applications for static/real-time data acquisition, transfer,
processing and analysis for new and ongoing medical imaging research
projects. We are in the process of converting a number of existing
applications (IDL, Matlab, C/C++) into Python based processing modules.

You will:

* Transition existing code into a robust, modular and object oriented 
architecture.
* Extend current and design new image analysis applications.
* Apply distributed data processing techniques to speed up MR data processing.

You should be able to:

* Develop custom software that is both modular and extensible.
* Identify and exploit parallelism in scientific algorithms.
* Use programming tools and techniques to tune and optimize blocks of code.
* Assist in the mapping of the algorithm to practical 
hardware/software systems.
* Work effectively within a research group with diverse skills and backgrounds.
* Do general maintenance and administration of a small Linux cluster.

You should have:

* Extensive knowledge of Python and two of: IDL, Matlab, C/C++, Java
* Knowledge of graphical user interface design and implementation,
   particularly in wxPython.
* Knowledge of common parallel programming models such as MPI and IPython.
* Experience with shell scripting languages, batch scheduling systems, and
   Linux cluster computing systems administration.
* Strong written and spoken communications skills.
* Experience working in project teams and writing documentation for users
   of varying technical abilities.
* Earned Bachelor's degree in Information Systems, Mathematics, 
Computer Science,
   related field, or equivalent combination of relevant education and 
experience.
* Two to three years experience with scientific applications 
design/programming
   and Linux systems administration.

Duke University Medical Center offers:

* The working environment is a normal office environment.
* Great retirement and health benefits.
* Annual paid time off that accrues from date of hire.
* Tuition reimbursement.

Publicly available blogs and/or past work are definite pluses.

Please send a cover letter, resume and three references to:
Brian J. Soher, brian.soher at duke.edu. Please include Scientific Programmer
in the subject line. Additionally post your resume in Duke database by
going to Duke HR website at https://www.hr.duke.edu/secure/jobs/external.html
where this job is listed under "Search Openings" and Requisiton # 400283090

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From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Feb 23 15:08:48 2009
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:08:48 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: World Plone Day 2009
References: <49A1C416.7090902@menttes.com>
Message-ID: <D44BFC95-E4F4-456A-98CB-E5AAF830F818@unc.edu>

TriZPUG,

We had a World Plone Day event last year right after Plone Conference.

After the event, I suggested to the planning committee that right  
after conference was maybe not the best time for such an event. They  
solicited when would be a good time. I suggested April. Lo and behold,  
they went for my suggestion.

Now it is almost April, World Plone Day has been set for April 22.

Due to a lot of factors, I'm probably not the best person to organize  
World Plone Day locally this year.

If you would like to do that, below is a message from the global  
organizer pointing to the website for World Plone Day. You'd probably  
also want to join the World Plone Day group on openplans.org and the  
Plone evangelism email list.

BTW, the figures are in for PyCon early bird registration. 625 people  
are already registered. Taking that number and plugging it into trends  
from the last two years, it looks like PyCon will have 1400 attendees  
this year. You may want to book your room now if you haven't already.  
There are two hotels reserved for PyCon this year.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Roberto Allende <rallende at menttes.com>
> Date: February 22, 2009 4:31:02 PM EST
> To: Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu>
> Subject: World Plone Day 2009
>
> Hello Chris
>
> Thank to people like you, WPD 2008 was a complete success and we  
> want to invite you join us for World Plone Day 2009 to be held on  
> April 22th.
>
> We're working to make WPD a yearly event and it would be great  
> having you again. We'll follow the same format as 2008. The global  
> website is http://worldploneday.org and there you can find the  
> instructions to register your place and futher information.
>
> Any comments, feedback and suggestion is always welcome.
>
> Kind Regards
> r.


From robert at geigers.net  Sat Feb 28 19:03:39 2009
From: robert at geigers.net (Robert Geiger)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:03:39 -0500
Subject: [TriZPUG] Python job post...
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