From biggers at utsl.com  Thu Nov  1 13:46:07 2007
From: biggers at utsl.com (Mark R. Biggers)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:46:07 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Plone Jams - #1!
In-Reply-To: <47261519.50304@unc.edu>
References: <18208.52865.777571.680696@dexter.saiph.com>
	<4721009C.3010107@unc.edu>
	<18213.63579.200414.488809@dexter.saiph.com>
	<1ea258670710290857nd7fce34v7fc280a78f24b24@mail.gmail.com>
	<47261519.50304@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <18217.51855.847893.940033@dexter.saiph.com>

Hello folks,

Chris Calloway writes:
 > ................................
 > 
 > With that, I suggest we leave it to Mark and Mike to divvy up first 
 > Wednesday (Mark) and third Thursday (Mike). Would you guys want post 
 > your Plone Jam dates and locations on trizpug.org? First Wednesday is soon.
 > 

Browse to - http://trizpug.org/Members/biggers/ for full details of
the 1st (#1) Plone Jam, at Train of Thought offices in Morrisville.

  November 7 Wednesday, 6 p.m. at Train of Thought offices in
  Morrisville (close to RTP). 


 > Is anybody here using virtualenv and zc.buildout? Not asking for help. 
 > Asking for my information and planning.

After reading Chris' and Jeff Shell's blogs, I am very unexcited about
zc.buildout.  I am hoping 'virtualenv' is just a polishing of
virtual-python, which is very easy, and works well to create complete
"virtual" Python envs (including for Plone/Zope):

  wget  http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/virtual-python.py
  $PY  ./virtual-python.py  --prefix=$ZEOCLUSTER_HOME
  # ... for example


thank you,
----mark



From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Nov  5 17:09:52 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:09:52 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] [Fwd: PyCon 2008 - Call for Tutorials]
Message-ID: <472F4050.2080205@unc.edu>

In a followup email, Greg points us to:

http://us.pycon.org/2008/tutorials/proposals/

Cheers, Chris

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	PyCon 2008 - Call for Tutorials
Date: 	Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:06:37 -0500
From: 	Greg Lindstrom <gslindstrom at gmail.com>
Reply-To: 	python-list at python.org
To: 	python-list at python.org, python-announce-list at python.org,
pycon-organizers at python.org

PyCon 2008 is being held in Chicago this year. The general conference is
March 14-16 with the proceeding day, March 13th, being the traditional
"tutorial day".  We have had a lot of input on topics to cover and now
we are looking for qualified instructors to sign up to present the
sessions.  Tutorials are 3 hours long (with break) and instructors are
paid for their effort ($1000.00 + conference registration).

PyCon is planned and run by volunteers just like you.  Why not get involved?

Pop on over to us.pycon.org <http://us.pycon.org/2008/about> for
conference details or email us at pycon-tutorials at python.org
<mailto:pycon-tutorials at python.org> and let us know what you would like
to present as a tutorial.

Thanks,
--greg

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From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Nov  5 18:27:20 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:27:20 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Get Up To Speed
Message-ID: <472F5278.1060909@unc.edu>

I did a major overhaul of this page:

http://trizpug.org/up-to-speed/

Comments and suggestions welcome. I'm not a particularly good proof-reader.

Thanks, Mark and Mike, for posting Plone Jams. I look forward to Wednesday.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599






From rob_lineberger at med.unc.edu  Tue Nov  6 21:00:54 2007
From: rob_lineberger at med.unc.edu (Rob Lineberger)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:00:54 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Important Hotfix for Plone
In-Reply-To: <472F5278.1060909@unc.edu>
References: <472F5278.1060909@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <1194379254.5877.58.camel@victoria>

If you have a plone site, better look at this. They've made it a warning
on the main page of plone and SteveM is urging everyone to hotfix
immediately.

CVE-2007-5741: unsafe data interpreted as pickles
by Wichert Akkerman ? last modified November 6, 2007 - 09:40 

This hotfix corrects a vulnerability in the statusmessages and
linkintegrity modules, where unsafe network data was interpreted as
python pickles. This allows an attacker to run arbitrary python code
within the Zope/Plone process.






From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Nov  6 23:17:51 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:17:51 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Repoze meeting for TriZPUG
Message-ID: <4730E80F.6090108@unc.edu>

All,

Chris McDonough is speaking about Repoze tonight at ZPUGDC and is asking 
us for a date to come talk to us.

He is checking to see if he is available Nov 27, our next regular 
meeting. He may somewhere else that day.

If he is not available then, he's asking if we have a December date.

Normally, we have a get together and not a meeting in December and have 
it earlier in the month.

Also, we now have these Plone Jam things on the first Wednesday and 
third Thursday.

*If* we made our December first Wednesday (Dec 5) Plone Jam our holiday 
get together *and* had Chris come speak for it,

a) how would you feel about that?

b) how would Train of Thought (Mark) feel about hosting it or not?

Keep in mind, I'd want to invite whoever wants to come from CharPy. Or I 
might try to coordinate for Chris to go to Charlotte on an adjoining 
date for a CharPy meeting. Except I think CharPy also normally meets on 
First and third Wednesdays. Confusing. So maybe even we have a holiday 
get together on first Thursday? Just say what you think.

Chris also said we could wait until January if we want.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599






From biggers at utsl.com  Wed Nov  7 17:21:13 2007
From: biggers at utsl.com (Mark R. Biggers)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:21:13 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug]  Repoze meeting for TriZPUG
In-Reply-To: <4730E80F.6090108@unc.edu>
References: <4730E80F.6090108@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <18225.58873.192767.530455@dexter.saiph.com>

Howdy Chris et al,

Chris Calloway writes:
 > All,
 > 
 > Chris McDonough is speaking about Repoze tonight at ZPUGDC and is asking 
 > us for a date to come talk to us.
 > ........
 > If he is not available then, he's asking if we have a December date.
 > ........
 > *If* we made our December first Wednesday (Dec 5) Plone Jam our holiday 
 > get together *and* had Chris come speak for it,
 > 
 > a) how would you feel about that?
 > 
 > b) how would Train of Thought (Mark) feel about hosting it or not?

A & B: +1.  No problem, I think TOT can host on 5 December.  Of course, we
have had no meetings yet, so maybe the Jammers will protest?  Ha!

 > Keep in mind, I'd want to invite whoever wants to come from CharPy. Or I 
 > might try to coordinate for Chris to go to Charlotte on an adjoining 
 > date for a CharPy meeting. Except I think CharPy also normally meets on 
 > First and third Wednesdays. Confusing. So maybe even we have a holiday 
 > get together on first Thursday? Just say what you think.

CharPy meets tonight - wish they could make a Plone Jam! :) :)

 > Chris also said we could wait until January if we want.

Whatever you all decide.

thank you,
----mark



From csl at med.unc.edu  Thu Nov  8 16:31:47 2007
From: csl at med.unc.edu (Carol Ludwig)
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:31:47 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Repoze meeting for TriZPUG
In-Reply-To: <4730E80F.6090108@unc.edu>
References: <4730E80F.6090108@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <f627a712703b1.4732e593@med.unc.edu>


Sorry, can't come on Weds.? Prior commitment.

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu>
Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 5:41 pm
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Repoze meeting for TriZPUG
To:  "Mailing list for North Carolina (Research Triangle area) Zope/Python User	Group" <triangle-zpug at starship.python.net>

> All,
> 
> Chris McDonough is speaking about Repoze tonight at ZPUGDC and 
> is asking 
> us for a date to come talk to us.
> 
> He is checking to see if he is available Nov 27, our next 
> regular 
> meeting. He may somewhere else that day.
> 
> If he is not available then, he's asking if we have a December date.
> 
> Normally, we have a get together and not a meeting in December 
> and have 
> it earlier in the month.
> 
> Also, we now have these Plone Jam things on the first Wednesday 
> and 
> third Thursday.
> 
> *If* we made our December first Wednesday (Dec 5) Plone Jam our 
> holiday 
> get together *and* had Chris come speak for it,
> 
> a) how would you feel about that?
> 
> b) how would Train of Thought (Mark) feel about hosting it or not?
> 
> Keep in mind, I'd want to invite whoever wants to come from 
> CharPy. Or I 
> might try to coordinate for Chris to go to Charlotte on an 
> adjoining 
> date for a CharPy meeting. Except I think CharPy also normally 
> meets on 
> First and third Wednesdays. Confusing. So maybe even we have a 
> holiday 
> get together on first Thursday? Just say what you think.
> 
> Chris also said we could wait until January if we want.
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Chris Calloway
> http://www.seacoos.org
> office: 332 Chapman Hall?? phone: (919) 962-4323
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> triangle-zpug mailing list
> triangle-zpug at starship.python.net
> http://starship.python.net/mailman/listinfo/triangle-zpug
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From brad.crittenden at gmail.com  Thu Nov  8 17:44:08 2007
From: brad.crittenden at gmail.com (Bradley A. Crittenden)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:44:08 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Repoze meeting for TriZPUG
In-Reply-To: <18225.58873.192767.530455@dexter.saiph.com>
References: <4730E80F.6090108@unc.edu>
	<18225.58873.192767.530455@dexter.saiph.com>
Message-ID: <1E13833C-FB81-4436-B2F2-748CDACC829F@gmail.com>


On Nov 7, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Mark R. Biggers wrote:

> Howdy Chris et al,
>
> Chris Calloway writes:
>> All,
>>
>> Chris McDonough is speaking about Repoze tonight at ZPUGDC and is  
>> asking
>> us for a date to come talk to us.
>> ........
>> If he is not available then, he's asking if we have a December date.
>> ........
>> *If* we made our December first Wednesday (Dec 5) Plone Jam our  
>> holiday
>> get together *and* had Chris come speak for it,
>>
>> a) how would you feel about that?
>>
>> b) how would Train of Thought (Mark) feel about hosting it or not?
>
> A & B: +1.  No problem, I think TOT can host on 5 December.  Of  
> course, we
> have had no meetings yet, so maybe the Jammers will protest?  Ha!

I'd really like to hear the Repoze talk and could do it on 11/27 or  
12/5 but nothing after 12/8.

Thanks Chris and Mark.

--bac





From biggers at utsl.com  Thu Nov  8 19:13:33 2007
From: biggers at utsl.com (Mark R. Biggers)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:13:33 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Plone Jam #1: wanted more Jammers, but we did fine
Message-ID: <18227.20941.751866.45627@dexter.saiph.com>


Hi all,

For Plone Jam #1, Chris Calloway and Rob Lineberger showed up, at TOT
Marketing in Morrisville.  Jim Allman and I hosted.

() Rob demo'd some workflow-designing and models, for his new
   DVDVerdict.com and new Plone-UML-modeling Plone sites.  He's a Busy Man(TM).

   Rob wants everyone involved who's interested, on the new Plone-
   UML-modeling site.  Sorry, I forget what the new domain-name is :(

() Chris was active on the #trizpug IRC chat.

() I helped Rob get his notebook-wireless working, for Ubu Linux - he's
   now quite happy

() I demo'd some more Python debugging stuff, in Wing3.0

() Jim showed us some slick CSS &gfx styling tricks, while working
   directly on Rob's Plone-UML-modeling site.

() Rob and I talked about "refactoring" / redesigning his UML & Plone
   code (& subsetting), for his UNC Medical LIMS plone site.

   The idea would be to release this "example" UML & Plone code, for
   the upcoming Plone-UML-modeling site.  I am sure we would be happy
   to have more participants in this nascent project.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_Information_Management_System


If you weren't there, you missed it - too bad!  Plone Jam #2 is next
week!

  http://trizpug.org/Members/mrevoir/plonejams/2007-11-15


thank you,
----mark



From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Nov  8 23:54:57 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:54:57 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Plone Jam #1: wanted more Jammers,
 but we did fine
In-Reply-To: <18227.20941.751866.45627@dexter.saiph.com>
References: <18227.20941.751866.45627@dexter.saiph.com>
Message-ID: <473393C1.5020003@unc.edu>

Mark R. Biggers wrote:
> () Chris was active on the #trizpug IRC chat.

#plone chat.

If you go to a Plone Jam, don't immediately jump on #plone all excited 
about it. "Hey, we're having a Plone Jam!" Because you'll get sucked 
into a bunch of problems helping organize a new ZPUG in Berkeley and 
miss most of the Plone Jam going on in your own meatspace.

Plus I had to leave early.

So Jim and Rob and Mark were all improvising pretty harmoniously and I 
was over in the corner tuning my instrument.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599






From mrevoir at gmail.com  Tue Nov 13 05:29:02 2007
From: mrevoir at gmail.com (Mike Revoir)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:29:02 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Plone Jam - Thursday, Nov 15 @ Duke
Message-ID: <f4cf1c730711122029n58ad97bfy74cf889f31d1db0a@mail.gmail.com>

Here are the updated instructions for gaining access to the Hock Plaza.
See you Thursday night,

Mike

http://trizpug.org/Members/mrevoir/hockplaza_logistics
Logistics for the Hock Plaza Auditorium
Directions to Hock Plaza
Hock Plaza is located at 2424 Erwin Rd, Durham, NC 27705.
Google Maps<http://www.google.com/url?q=http://maps.google.com/maps%3Foi%3Dmap%26q%3D2424%2BErwin%2BRd,%2BDurham,%2BNC%2B27705&ei=NFgoRLXCIbH2aOCRuecN&sig2=unU_XAXOfdf_uFGmEIxHVA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=result&cd=0>
 - Yahoo!Maps<http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=2424+erwin+rd&csz=27705&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=>

*From RDU Airport/Points East*: Take Interstate 40 West to Durham
Expressway/NC 147 (Exit 279B). Continue on the Durham Expressway and exit on
Hillandale Road/Fulton Street (exit 15b). Stay in the left lane. At the
light at the bottom of the ramp, turn left; The road "deadends" in the Duke
north circular driveway; Turn right at this light onto Erwin Road.

*From Points West:* Take Interstate 40 East to Interstate 85 North. Merge
onto Durham Expressway/NC 147 South (exit 172) toward Durham, Downtown,
Research Triangle Park. Exit on Hillandale Road/Fulton Street. At the end of
the off-ramp turn left; The road "deadends" in the Duke north circular
driveway; Turn right at this light onto Erwin Road.

*From Points North:* Take Interstate 95 South to Interstate 85 South (exit
51). Exit at Hillandale Road (exit 174A). Turn left onto Fulton Road, The
road "deadends" in the Duke north circular driveway; Turn right at this
light onto Erwin Road.
*From Points South:* Take Interstate 95 North to Interstate 40 West (exit
81). Follow the directions given From Points East.

Parking
There is free parking for visitors in the parking deck immediately behind
the building. Enter through the covered driveway on Erwin Rd near the right
front side of the building, and drive all the way to the back to enter the
parking deck. Drive through to the back of the entry level of the parking
deck where you will find gates. To get a free parking ticket, push the white
intercom button and say you are visiting TriZPUG, Mike Revoir or Duke
Clinical Researh Institute. We've had lots of problems with the parking
folks so hopefully one of those will get you in. If you park after 6:30, you
can park in the vistor section before entering the gated area. After you
park, come back to level 4 of the garage which is the main lobby level.

Check in with the Hock Plaza Receptionist; then take the lobby elevator to
the 5th floor. When arriving, please use the courtesy phone to call the
conference room we'll be in at 919/668-8289.

If you arrive after 6:30PM, the elevator will be locked, but you can reach
us by calling 919/668-8289 and someone will ride the elevator down to pick
you up.
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From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Nov 13 18:48:18 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:48:18 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Plone Jam - Thursday, Nov 15 @ Duke
In-Reply-To: <f4cf1c730711122029n58ad97bfy74cf889f31d1db0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f4cf1c730711122029n58ad97bfy74cf889f31d1db0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4739E362.8060104@unc.edu>

Mike Revoir wrote:
> Here are the updated instructions for gaining access to the Hock Plaza.

Mike, is it OK to bring food and/or non-alcoholic drink to this 
conference room at Hock Plaza?

Just a heads up. There are many things I'd like to work on at our 
upcoming Plone Jams. So many things, so little time. But there's one 
thing that I came across this morning that kind of excites me so much 
that I'm soliciting some help on it and it's the kind of thing which 
fits into the time frame of a single Plone Jam.

I think a user of one of my sites discovered a very obscure bug in Plone 
2.5 this morning having to do with Owner inherited local roles for 
groups in private subfolders of group workspaces.

I'd like some help confirming this bug across platforms and seeing if it 
also applies to Plone 3.

If I can get some third person confirmation about this to show I'm not 
misunderstanding what's going on, it would justify later creating test 
cases and then tracking down the cause and fix for this bug. I currently 
have a workaround but it's manual and involves knowing what to do when 
in a special edge case.

As obscure as this sounds, it actually fits a fairly common real world 
use case (a team of people working on some public and some confidential 
information). And so if it's a real bug, I needs to be fixed.

If you don't have a lot of Plone chops and that is scaring you away from 
participating in a Plone Jam, please come. Helping me confirm this bug 
is an easy introductory activity which involves things like running 
development instance installs and walking through short user scenarios. 
You'll be helping make Plone more robust.

See you Thursday!

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599







From mrevoir at gmail.com  Tue Nov 13 20:07:09 2007
From: mrevoir at gmail.com (Mike Revoir)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:07:09 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Plone Jam - Thursday, Nov 15 @ Duke
In-Reply-To: <4739E362.8060104@unc.edu>
References: <f4cf1c730711122029n58ad97bfy74cf889f31d1db0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4739E362.8060104@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <f4cf1c730711131107w27d73d3ficd931eb43acab940@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/07, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:


Mike, is it OK to bring food and/or non-alcoholic drink to this

conference room at Hock Plaza?


That's not a problem at all. There's snack and soda machines on the floor as
well, but I find the prices fairly steep.

Mike
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From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Nov 13 21:46:38 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:46:38 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Plone 3 Where Is What
Message-ID: <473A0D2E.7050000@unc.edu>

 From Penn State Weblion:

https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/PloneThreeWhereIsWhat

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599







From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Nov 15 23:05:48 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:05:48 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] [Fwd: [ANN] Release of the first PyTables video]
Message-ID: <473CC2BC.7090007@unc.edu>

FYI...

This was worth watching. Very informative. 11 minutes and 13 seconds.

This was the first of more videos to come about working with HDF5 data.

HDF5 datasets look a lot like the ZODB, except not transactional and all
that other database goodness.

OK, you should be headed out the door to Plone Jam in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, now.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [ANN] Release of the first PyTables video
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:06:55 +0100
From: Ivan Vilata i Balaguer <ivilata at carabos.com>
Reply-To: python-list at python.org
To: python-announce-list at python.org

=====================================
   Release of the first PyTables video
=====================================

`Carabos <http://www.carabos.com/>`_ is very proud to announce the
first of a series of videos dedicated to introducing the main features
of PyTables to the public in a visual and easy to grasp manner.

    http://www.carabos.com/videos/pytables-1-intro

`PyTables <http://www.pytables.org/>`_ is a Free/Open Source package
designed to handle massive amounts of data in a simple, but highly
efficient way, using the HDF5 file format and NumPy data containers.

This first video is an introductory overview of PyTables, covering the
following topics:

    * HDF5 file creation
    * the object tree
    * homogeneous array storage
    * natural naming
    * working with attributes

With a running length of little more than 10 minutes, you may sit back
and watch it during any short break.

More videos about PyTables will be published in the near future.  Stay
tuned on www.pytables.org for the announcement of the new videos.

We would like to hear your opinion on the video so we can do it better
the next time.  We are also open to suggestions for the topics of
future videos.

Best regards,

::

	Ivan Vilata i Balaguer   >qo<   http://www.carabos.com/
	       C?rabos Coop. V.  V  V   Enjoy Data
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From cbc at unc.edu  Fri Nov 16 19:09:54 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:09:54 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] [Fwd: Last chance for PyCon talk & tutorial
	proposals!]
Message-ID: <473DDCF2.1010603@unc.edu>

FYI... deadline for PyCon proposals extended until Monday.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Last chance for PyCon talk & tutorial proposals!
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:54:38 -0500
From: David Goodger <goodger at python.org>
Reply-To: python-list at python.org
To: python-announce at python.org

Thanks to all the proposal authors so far, we have received lots of
proposals for PyCon talks & tutorials.  But we'd like to have even
more.  Alas, the proposal submission deadline should have been set
after a weekend, not before. So we have decided to extend the proposal
submission deadline to Monday, November 19 at midnight (Chicago
time). This gives you a *whole extra weekend* to write up your talk
and tutorial ideas!

If you've been procrastinating, stop! Get started on a proposal
instead!

See the call for conference talk proposals:
http://us.pycon.org/2008/conference/proposals/

Topic ideas:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Talk_Subjects
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyCon2007/Feedback#head-e2dca74d1492e49fae11550e6cbc40fa18a17f40

See the call for tutorial proposals
http://us.pycon.org/2008/tutorials/proposals/

Topic ideas from the PyCon 2007 feedback:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyCon2007/Feedback/TutorialIdeas

I hope to see (and hear) you at PyCon 2008!
http://us.pycon.org

-- David Goodger, PyCon 2008 Chair

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From cbc at unc.edu  Fri Nov 16 22:20:33 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:20:33 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Special Meeting: Repoze on Tuesday December 4
Message-ID: <473E09A1.3000102@unc.edu>

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/mtg-dec-07

TriZPUGlians,

We have a special holiday treat. Our friends and Zope giants Tres Seaver 
  and Chris McDonough are coming to see us on Tuesday December 4th for a 
special holiday presentation on Repoze (http://repoze.org).

Repoze is currently the most important development in the Zope world. 
Through the power of WSGI, Zope is being opened up to a huge treasure 
trove of interoperability with other Python web frameworks and components.

This will be not only a TriZPUG meeting you should not miss, but one you 
should tell other people about. We're spending out some Plone Boot Camp 
proceeds to subsidize Tres and Chris's travel here. And we'll have some 
holiday nibbles on hand.

This is also part of a special Repoze Tour which Agendaless Consulting 
is bringing to TriZPUG, ZPUGDC, CharPy, and Atlanta Plone Users. Atlanta 
Plone Users is currently having a fund-raising drive for their part of 
the Repoze Tour. If you'd like to contribute, contact Derek Richardson 
(see https://lists.gatech.edu/sympa/info/atlanta-plone-users for contact 
details).

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599







From cbc at unc.edu  Sat Nov 17 01:44:07 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:44:07 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Ploneability Higher Ed
Message-ID: <473E3957.3000408@unc.edu>

The presentations from Ploneability Higher Ed have been posted:

http://www.enfoldsystems.com/ploneability

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599







From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Nov 20 21:16:43 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:16:43 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Repoze blogging about TriZPUG
Message-ID: <474340AB.9080801@unc.edu>

http://blog.repoze.org/december_usergroups.html

I guess this means Tres wants to sprint some on Wednesday morning. 
They're staying at my house, so I guess that means sprinting in Chapel 
Hill if we are going to get to Charlotte in time that evening.

Who's up for Wednesday morning Dec 5 Repoze sprinting?

Don't all speak at once, now.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599







From FDimauro at unch.unc.edu  Mon Nov 26 16:16:52 2007
From: FDimauro at unch.unc.edu (Dimauro, Frank)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:16:52 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] change date from GMT setting in plone
Message-ID: <C1749BE8B27F1C4CAB39ABF6D7B15949CC90B0@msx5.unch.unc.edu>

Does anyone out there know how to modify the date setting in Plone from GMT to EDT? The time stamp on our site is about 6 hours off.

Frank DiMauro
Information Services Division
UNC Health Care System
321 Meadowmont Village Circle, 2nd Floor 
Chapel Hill, NC 27517 
919-966-7988 (Tel) 
919-966-2110 (Fax)


?






From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Nov 26 23:03:13 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:03:13 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] KSS meeting on Tuesday at 7pm
Message-ID: <474B42A1.2030506@unc.edu>

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/nov-07-mtg

Don't forget. See you there.

KSS is for Plone, Django, Pylons, etc...

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599







From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Nov 26 23:24:29 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:24:29 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] change date from GMT setting in plone
In-Reply-To: <C1749BE8B27F1C4CAB39ABF6D7B15949CC90B0@msx5.unch.unc.edu>
References: <C1749BE8B27F1C4CAB39ABF6D7B15949CC90B0@msx5.unch.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <474B479D.4000509@unc.edu>

Dimauro, Frank wrote:
> Does anyone out there know how to modify the date setting in Plone from GMT to EDT? The time stamp on our site is about 6 hours off.

I thought you meant "our" site as in trizpug.org. :)

Don't scare me like that. :)

It should be using your system clock through your OS timezone 
correction. I guess your server is set to UTC as it should be, which 
should resemble GMT this time of year. And your server OS should be set 
to report it as EDT. Check that first.

What version is your Zope? There's been a lot of work done to get Zope 
to recognize a variety of uncommon timezone formats spit out by 
different servers. A quick Google turned up:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/143784
http://groups.humaninet.org/about/how-tos/changing-the-time-zone-in-plone/
http://www.objectis.org/community-en/forum/msg_1086141561

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599







From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Nov 27 21:40:36 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:40:36 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Repoze Talk Outline
Message-ID: <474C80C4.1060308@unc.edu>

Don't forget the meeting on KSS tonight:

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/nov-07-mtg

We'll be using Plone for demo. But it's applicable to Django and Pylons 
as well. If you have any problems finding the place, my cell is local 
number 599-3530.

Don't forget the Repoze Tour next week:

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/mtg-dec-07

The Repoze Tour is now DC, Triangle, Charlotte, and Atlanta. Portland 
and Seattle are in the works of bring added thanks to Andrew Burkhalter 
and Jon Baldivieso.

By way of Derek Richardon in Atlanta, here's an outline of the Repoze 
Talk for next week from Chris McDonough:

#####

Talk description:

   This talk will consume approximately 1.5 hours (including a break
in the middle).  The first half of the talk
   will:

    - provide attendees with an understanding of the problems that
Repoze was created to solve.

    - provide attendees with an understanding of the purpose of WSGI
and Python eggs.

    - provide attendees with an understanding of the overall
architecture that Repoze uses.

    - Demonstrate a real-world Repoze deployment, showing how it's
possible to combine Zope and non-Zope
      applications within the same "URL space", including a
demonstration of Deliverance, which is WSGI
      middleware that allows you to (reasonably) easily "theme"
disparate applications so that they
      look similar to each other, despite being otherwise unrelated to
each other.

   The second half of the talk will focus on "repoze.zope2", which is
a WSGI application which allows you
   to publish Zope 2 content using a WSGI server.  The main points
delivered during this talk section
   will be:

    - The differences between using repoze.zope2 and a "stock" Zope 2
to serve your Zope 2 applications.

    - The benefits of using repoze.zope2 vs. a "stock" Zope 2
deployment.

    - An examination of the middleware stack recommended for a
repoze.zope2 deployment.

    - An examination of the services provided within a "repoze.zope2"
sandbox.

    - A demonstration of running Plone using repoze.zope2.

#####

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599







From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Nov 29 00:42:23 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:42:23 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] KSS presentation posted
Message-ID: <474DFCDF.7030704@unc.edu>

I enjoyed seeing many of you last night and especially enjoyed hanging 
out with some of you at Milltown. Eric Leary came again and Don Hopkins 
was a newcomer. Rob, Brad C, Hiawatha, Jim, and Edmund also were there.

I look forward to seeing y'all again next week for the Repoze party.

Last night's presentation is posted here:

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/kss-part-one-online/

Jim, to answer your question from last night, I was able today to put 
two action-server properties in one KSS rule and have it work. Two 
action-servers triggered two different callable methods, each method 
selecting a different set of DOM nodes to operate on. I passed a 
parameter to each of the actions, also. I even put an action-client in 
the same rule and all three actions worked off the same event trigger at 
once.

So that is something a little different from CSS. I guess it is 
important to emphasize that KSS is has CSS-compliant *syntax* (but not 
the same execution).

What would be interesting is to have two actions in one rule, both 
manipulating the same DOM node, and see which one wins. It is reported 
that you can put the actions and parameters in the rule in any order. 
But I wonder if order has an effect on the sequence of actions triggered 
in the KSS engine on the client.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599







From jim at ibang.com  Thu Nov 29 01:54:18 2007
From: jim at ibang.com (Jim Allman)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:54:18 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] KSS presentation posted
In-Reply-To: <474DFCDF.7030704@unc.edu>
References: <474DFCDF.7030704@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <4B96B935-E0B2-453D-A80F-48E90528334F@ibang.com>

On Nov 28, 2007, at 6:42 PM, Chris Calloway wrote:
> I guess it is important to emphasize that KSS is has CSS-compliant  
> *syntax* (but not
> the same execution).

I'm not surprised. Having hand-coded a fair amount of AJAX jive, I  
assume the usual stuff is happening behind the scenes: KSS is  
registering JS functions as event handlers ("listeners") on the  
chosen DOM elements. This is a very flexible and lightweight setup  
that supports many-to-many relationships between notifiers and  
listeners.

CSS, on the other hand, generally results in only one outcome for a  
given combination of element and property. So if you say:

div#blah a:hover {
	border: solid 1px green;
	margin: 4px;
	border: red;
}

... the red border color "wins", simply because it comes last in the  
series. This is a consequence of the CSS cascade, and the fact that  
for most (all?) CSS properties There Can Be Only One value for a  
given element.

The CSS cascade has other interesting dynamics, like the notion that  
a more specific selector trumps a more general ones. It will be  
interesting to see how these play out in the more open-ended domain  
of events and behavior. Not to mention the fact that the outcome of a  
KSS rule can change the DOM, possibly affecting the outcome (and  
genesis) of other KSS rules. Talk about a cascade!


> What would be interesting is to have two actions in one rule, both
> manipulating the same DOM node, and see which one wins. It is reported
> that you can put the actions and parameters in the rule in any order.
> But I wonder if order has an effect on the sequence of actions  
> triggered
> in the KSS engine on the client.

My guess (I don't have the setup to try this) is that actions would  
fire in order, but that server actions (being asynchronous) will be  
unpredictable. In the event that an action's target nodes are no  
longer available (clobbered by faster action), I'd hope the call  
would fail gracefully as its node selector finds no target.

Super cool stuff, thanks again for the demo!

   =jimA=

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Jim Allman
Interrobang Digital Media
http://www.ibang.com/
(919) 649-5760




From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Nov 29 19:55:26 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:55:26 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] GHOP
Message-ID: <474F0B1E.5020801@unc.edu>

Google is sponsoring a contest for pre-college teens to help with select
open source projects:

http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/

Students can win up to $500 based on number of tasks completed. Tasks
have to be completed within five days each. And the top ten students win
a trip to Mountain View with a parent.

Python and Plone are among the 10 open source projects:

http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-psf/
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-plone/

The tasks are:

http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-psf/issues/list
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-plone/issues/list

There are a couple of problems you might want to help with.

One, the Python task list is rapidly running out of tasks due to demand:

http://blog.doughellmann.com/2007/11/help-wanted-give-us-work.html

You can suggest new ones. See the project page for details.

The other problem is the Plone task list has no takers. You can become a
mentor and find teens to work on the tasks. See the project page for
details.

Also, you can suggest some new and simpler tasks for Plone. Most of the
Python tasks look fairly simple, which may be why they are running out
of tasks. Most of the Plone tasks look fairly complex, which may be why
they have no takers.

Why is this important? Recently I participated in a panel discussion
about open source in universities. One conclusion was we might should
stop wasting our time trying to convince University bureaucrats to
invest in open source rather than proprietary solutions, and instead
spend our time inculcating youth with the open source mindset. It might
not pay off for twenty years. But it might beat smacking our heads
against a wall for twenty years.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599








From cbc at unc.edu  Fri Nov 30 20:02:36 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:02:36 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Liquid resizing
Message-ID: <47505E4C.8090008@unc.edu>

Another followup to our last meeting... Here are some references for 
"liquid resizing" of images, more properly known as "seam carving":

S. Avidan, A. Shamir; "Seam Carving for Content-Aware Image Resizing", 
ACM Transactions on Graphics, Volume 26, Number 3, SIGGRAPH 2007:
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1275808.1276390

If you cannot access that link (it's a journal and may require a 
subscribing academic IP to view) or the PDF or MOV linked on it, you can 
try the painfully slow to never loading home page of one of the authors:

http://www.faculty.idc.ac.il/arik/imret.pdf
http://www.faculty.idc.ac.il/arik/IMRet-All.mov

The video is also on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIFCV2spKtg

So, less than a month after this was pimped at SIGGRAPH, Nicolas "Ikke" 
Trangez released an implementation in Python using PIL, SciPy, and NumPy:

http://blog.eikke.com/index.php/ikke/2007/09/02/seam_carving_content_aware_image_resizin

Here is another implementation in Python:

http://www.timwintle.co.uk/blog.pl/Programming/content-aware-image-rescaling.html

There are now also implementations for a GIMP plugin, a Photoshop 
plugin, several Flash applications, a QT GUI, a few C implementations, 
and a Java port of one of the C implementations.

Then Mauricio Fernandez found the Python version, tweaked the filter 
algorithm, and made an OCaml implementation about 200 times as fast:

http://eigenclass.org/hiki/seam-carving-in-ocaml

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599