From bradallen137 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 17:47:25 2011 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:47:25 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas 2011 logistics for swag & supplies In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: We discussed this image at yesterday's DFW Pythoneers meeting; there was some positive feedback but some also raised concerns that there could be a legal issue with using the Monty Python trademarks (the left-pointing foot for example). I guess we could check with the the Monty Python rights holders... On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Jeremy Kelley wrote: > > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> For the time being, I'm telling sponsors they can send swag to my home >> address. I still have some left over from last year, and can bring >> quite a bit in my station wagon the Friday before PyTexas. >> >> However, if anyone living closer to College Station wants to volunteer >> to store swag, and is willing to deliver it the day before PyTexas, >> please let me know. >> >> I don't yet know where we'll put the swag & supplies the evening >> before PyTexas. The best case would be storing it in the Computer >> Science building somewhere the night before, to minimize hauling in >> everything the day before. Jeremy, can you comment on this? >> > > > Brad et al, > - Mailing swag - > I've chatted with Dr James Caverlee of the TAMU CS Dept. ?He says any swag > can be mailed to the department and address c/o him and he'll hold on to it > until the con. ?I'll get the properly formatted mailing address tomorrow and > send it to the list. > - Logos - > One of my coworkers, Dave Birch, has put together a possible logo. > https://33ad.org/tmp/gzX/pytx11.png > > that's all tonight, > Jeremy > > > > -- > The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; > it has been found difficult and left untried ? G. K. Chesterton > From jeremy at collectivelabs.com Sun Jun 12 20:34:02 2011 From: jeremy at collectivelabs.com (Jeremy Kelley) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:34:02 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas 2011 logistics for swag & supplies In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <26F364CB-24AD-4422-A881-58BA40A116B5@collectivelabs.com> I asked my gfx guy when he first gave me the img and he said the foot had been released by MP to the public domain. A second opinion is never bad though. -jeremy Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > We discussed this image at yesterday's DFW Pythoneers meeting; there > was some positive feedback but some also raised concerns that there > could be a legal issue with using the Monty Python trademarks (the > left-pointing foot for example). I guess we could check with the the > Monty Python rights holders... > > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Jeremy Kelley wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >>> >>> For the time being, I'm telling sponsors they can send swag to my home >>> address. I still have some left over from last year, and can bring >>> quite a bit in my station wagon the Friday before PyTexas. >>> >>> However, if anyone living closer to College Station wants to volunteer >>> to store swag, and is willing to deliver it the day before PyTexas, >>> please let me know. >>> >>> I don't yet know where we'll put the swag & supplies the evening >>> before PyTexas. The best case would be storing it in the Computer >>> Science building somewhere the night before, to minimize hauling in >>> everything the day before. Jeremy, can you comment on this? >>> >> >> >> Brad et al, >> - Mailing swag - >> I've chatted with Dr James Caverlee of the TAMU CS Dept. He says any swag >> can be mailed to the department and address c/o him and he'll hold on to it >> until the con. I'll get the properly formatted mailing address tomorrow and >> send it to the list. >> - Logos - >> One of my coworkers, Dave Birch, has put together a possible logo. >> https://33ad.org/tmp/gzX/pytx11.png >> >> that's all tonight, >> Jeremy >> >> >> >> -- >> The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; >> it has been found difficult and left untried ? G. K. Chesterton >> From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 05:20:56 2011 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:20:56 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas 2011 weekly status Message-ID: I've decided to send out a weekly status update on PyTexas, approximately every Sunday. Here is a random dump of info: * At yesterday's DFW Python meeting Martin Taylor said that he is prepared to give a half day tutorial on Robot Framework for test automation. That seems like it could be potentially of general interest, though we need feedback from the community about whether anyone wants to spend a half day learning that, or would rather just see a regular 45 min presentation. * John Zurawski sent Jeff Rush and I a draft of his Python Game Programming Challenge draft. Only non-contestants are allowed to see it. If you want to disqualify yourself, and volunteer to help, please let myself or John know. * So far the sponsor outreach has not begun in earnest because I still don't know the parameters of what we can offer in terms of floor space at PyTexas (by next weekend I should know more). Also, the payment mechanism is still being worked out. However, informal conversations with several sponsors have begun and we have gotten several to pledge modest dollar amounts. * A volunteer local to College Station has stepped forward to help out with logistics * Dr James Caverlee of the TAMU CS Dept says any swag can be mailed to the department and address c/o him and he'll hold on to it until the con. * Last week's call for proposals was posted to the PyCon blog, but I neglected to send it out to all the appropriate mailing lists (python-announce and the local meetup lists). * No prizes yet. Does anyone want to volunteer to work on contacting prize donors? We also need a volunteer to organize the prize drawings. * Keynote speaker not yet lined up. Jeff Rush and I talked about having "state of the community" talk, but that doesn't have to be the keynote necessarily. * I'd like to have the survey finalized during the week of July 16, so people can effectively vote for proposals (instead of having a program committee). * Nobody has stepped up to work on the pytx.org site as far as I know. Jeremy Kelley is at a busy time in his life, so we need more volunteers. * The t-shirt graphic design Jeremy Kelley sent out looks great to me ( https://33ad.org/tmp/gzX/pytx11.png ), but we're still checking on whether it represents a copyright infringement (for an example of Monty Python's litigious nature, see http://www.glossynews.com/artman/publish/monty-python-sues-arafat-1007.shtml ) From benliles at arch.tamu.edu Wed Jun 15 16:10:58 2011 From: benliles at arch.tamu.edu (Liles, Benjamin) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:10:58 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Texas A&M/Bryan College Station PUG Message-ID: I've been doing some web searches to find out if there is a Texas A&M or Bryan/College Station Python Users Group and have been unable to find anything. Is anyone on this list in the area and interested in forming a group? 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Let's meet up and talk soon. -jeremy On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Liles, Benjamin wrote: > I've been doing some web searches to find out if there is a Texas A&M or > Bryan/College Station Python Users Group and have been unable to find > anything. Is anyone on this list in the area and interested in forming a > group? > > *Benjamin Liles* > Senior Software Application Developer > College of Architecture > Texas A&M University > benliles at arch.tamu.edu > > TAMU 3137 | College Station, TX 77843-3137 > Tel. 979-458-0120 > > http://arch.tamu.edu/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > -- The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried ? G. K. Chesterton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gotta start somewhere. > :) > > http://twitter.com/#!/alpytx > > "alpytx" is cute, but did you guys think about "Texas P&Y"? :) > > > -Peter > I have to admit I don't get it and Google failed me. Is it a hunting thing? -j -- The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried ? G. K. Chesterton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 21:17:09 2011 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:17:09 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Texas A&M/Bryan College Station PUG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I thought it was a play on "Texas A&M"... On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Jeremy Kelley wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Peter Wang wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Jeremy Kelley wrote: >> > So far, we've got a logo and a twitter account... Gotta start somewhere. >> > ?:) >> > http://twitter.com/#!/alpytx >> >> "alpytx" is cute, but did you guys think about "Texas P&Y"? ?:) >> >> >> -Peter > > > I have to admit I don't get it and Google failed me. ?Is it a hunting thing? > -j > > > -- > The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; > it has been found difficult and left untried ? G. K. Chesterton > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > From jeremy at 33ad.org Thu Jun 16 00:04:13 2011 From: jeremy at 33ad.org (Jeremy Kelley) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:04:13 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Texas A&M/Bryan College Station PUG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > I thought it was a play on "Texas A&M"... Ahh yes. I get it now. :) Time for more coffee! -- The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried ? G. K. 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From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 00:18:14 2011 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:18:14 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas "State of the Local Community" session Message-ID: Hello, At PyTexas this year, I would like to have one session devoted to summarizing the activities and status of each Python user group in Texas. Each user group could appoint one delegate to speak on behalf of their group, explaining the group operates, activities for the past year, ambitions for the upcoming year, etc. I would also like to know in advance who that delegate will be, so that I can coordinate with each user group delegate to promote PyTexas. Any thoughts? Volunteers? From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 18:16:22 2011 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:16:22 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [python-188] Fwd: PyTexas 2011 weekly status In-Reply-To: <1720516540.1308559991226.JavaMail.nobody@james2> References: <1720516540.1308559991226.JavaMail.nobody@james2> Message-ID: Thanks, Eric. That kind of talk would be most welcome; virtualenv belongs in every Python developer's toolkit, but surprisingly many don't know about it or how easy it will make their life. It will be helpful if you could fill out the restructuredText form provided here: http://pytexas.org/CallForProposals2011 On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:53 AM, eric wrote: > Hi Brad - New to the Python scene in Texas. I'd like to express my interest > in helping out any way I can. Here's a talk I gave in Manila, and I'd be > happy to give it at PyTexas if you still need help: > > http://blog.ericmalloy.net/2010/08/introduction-to-pip-virtualenv-virtualenvwrapper/ > > I'm more of a 'DevOps' guy and 'development broker' , though I am working on > a project now to sharpen my programming skills, and one day to be a > proficient python coder. > > Please let me know how I can be help > > > EM > > Cell: 415 425 7682 > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 15:58, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> --------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Brad Allen >> Date: Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:56 PM >> Subject: Re: PyTexas 2011 weekly status >> To: Texas Python User Group >> >> >> Instead of posting this week's status inline within this email, I've >> decided to put it into a blog posting, to make it easier to propagate >> the social networks. This is the first posting on a new PyTexas blog: >> >> >> http://pytexas.blogspot.com/2011/06/pytexas-2011-status-12-weeks-to-go.html >> >> This week we made great progress toward PyTexas 2011; please take a >> look and spread the word. Also, if you wish to be a contributor to >> this blog, let me know and I'll give you access to post. >> >> >> >> -- >> Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on >> this mailing list (python-188 at meetup.com) >> http://www.meetup.com/austinpython/ >> This message was sent by Brad Allen (bradallen137 at gmail.com) from The >> Austin Python Meetup. >> To learn more about Brad Allen, visit his/her member profile: >> http://www.meetup.com/austinpython/members/1755741/ >> To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here: >> http://www.meetup.com/austinpython/settings/ >> Meetup, PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 | >> support at meetup.com >> > > > > > > -- > Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on > this mailing list (python-188 at meetup.com) > This message was sent by eric (ejmalloy at gmail.com) from The Austin Python > Meetup. > To learn more about eric, visit his/her member profile > To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here > > Meetup, PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 | > support at meetup.com From travis at domain51.com Mon Jun 20 18:51:25 2011 From: travis at domain51.com (Travis Swicegood) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:51:25 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [python-188] Fwd: PyTexas 2011 weekly status In-Reply-To: References: <1720516540.1308559991226.JavaMail.nobody@james2> Message-ID: Hey Brad; I would love to participate, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it. This is schedule the weekend immediately following DjangoCon in Portland and the sprints run through the weekend. This is the first year I've been in Texas during a PyTexas -- is it always the second weekend of September, or is the date flexible? -T On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > Thanks, Eric. That kind of talk would be most welcome; virtualenv > belongs in every Python developer's toolkit, but surprisingly many > don't know about it or how easy it will make their life. > > It will be helpful if you could fill out the restructuredText form > provided here: > > http://pytexas.org/CallForProposals2011 > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:53 AM, eric wrote: > > Hi Brad - New to the Python scene in Texas. I'd like to express my > interest > > in helping out any way I can. Here's a talk I gave in Manila, and I'd be > > happy to give it at PyTexas if you still need help: > > > > > http://blog.ericmalloy.net/2010/08/introduction-to-pip-virtualenv-virtualenvwrapper/ > > > > I'm more of a 'DevOps' guy and 'development broker' , though I am working > on > > a project now to sharpen my programming skills, and one day to be a > > proficient python coder. > > > > Please let me know how I can be help > > > > > > EM > > > > Cell: 415 425 7682 > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 15:58, Brad Allen > wrote: > >> > >> --------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Brad Allen > >> Date: Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:56 PM > >> Subject: Re: PyTexas 2011 weekly status > >> To: Texas Python User Group > >> > >> > >> Instead of posting this week's status inline within this email, I've > >> decided to put it into a blog posting, to make it easier to propagate > >> the social networks. This is the first posting on a new PyTexas blog: > >> > >> > >> > http://pytexas.blogspot.com/2011/06/pytexas-2011-status-12-weeks-to-go.html > >> > >> This week we made great progress toward PyTexas 2011; please take a > >> look and spread the word. Also, if you wish to be a contributor to > >> this blog, let me know and I'll give you access to post. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone > on > >> this mailing list (python-188 at meetup.com) > >> http://www.meetup.com/austinpython/ > >> This message was sent by Brad Allen (bradallen137 at gmail.com) from The > >> Austin Python Meetup. > >> To learn more about Brad Allen, visit his/her member profile: > >> http://www.meetup.com/austinpython/members/1755741/ > >> To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here: > >> http://www.meetup.com/austinpython/settings/ > >> Meetup, PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 | > >> support at meetup.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on > > this mailing list (python-188 at meetup.com) > > This message was sent by eric (ejmalloy at gmail.com) from The Austin > Python > > Meetup. > > To learn more about eric, visit his/her member profile > > To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here > > > > Meetup, PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 | > > support at meetup.com > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > -- Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: I'm sorry about that, Travis. This year the date was selected by the TAMU Computer Science department, and I believe they indicated that is really the only weekend they can offer during the fall. I was concerned about DjangoCon and sought feedback from the local community about DjangoCon, but nobody local indicated that it would be a conflict, so I assumed that most local Python developers would not be travelling to DjangoCon. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Travis Swicegood wrote: > Hey Brad; > I would love to participate, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it. > ?This is schedule the weekend immediately following DjangoCon in Portland > and the sprints run through the weekend. ?This is the first year I've been > in Texas during a PyTexas -- is it always the second weekend of September, > or is the date flexible? > -T > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> Thanks, Eric. That kind of talk would be most welcome; virtualenv >> belongs in every Python developer's toolkit, but surprisingly many >> don't know about it or how easy it will make their life. >> >> It will be helpful if you could fill out the restructuredText form >> provided here: >> >> http://pytexas.org/CallForProposals2011 >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:53 AM, eric wrote: >> > Hi Brad - New to the Python scene in Texas. I'd like to express my >> > interest >> > in helping out any way I can. Here's a talk I gave in Manila, and I'd be >> > happy to give it at PyTexas if you still need help: >> > >> > >> > http://blog.ericmalloy.net/2010/08/introduction-to-pip-virtualenv-virtualenvwrapper/ >> > >> > I'm more of a 'DevOps' guy and 'development broker' , though I am >> > working on >> > a project now to sharpen my programming skills, and one day to be a >> > proficient python coder. >> > >> > Please let me know how I can be help >> > >> > >> > EM >> > >> > Cell: 415 425 7682 >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 15:58, Brad Allen >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> --------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From: Brad Allen >> >> Date: Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:56 PM >> >> Subject: Re: PyTexas 2011 weekly status >> >> To: Texas Python User Group >> >> >> >> >> >> Instead of posting this week's status inline within this email, I've >> >> decided to put it into a blog posting, to make it easier to propagate >> >> the social networks. This is the first posting on a new PyTexas blog: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://pytexas.blogspot.com/2011/06/pytexas-2011-status-12-weeks-to-go.html >> >> >> >> This week we made great progress toward PyTexas 2011; please take a >> >> look and spread the word. Also, if you wish to be a contributor to >> >> this blog, let me know and I'll give you access to post. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone >> >> on >> >> this mailing list (python-188 at meetup.com) >> >> http://www.meetup.com/austinpython/ >> >> This message was sent by Brad Allen (bradallen137 at gmail.com) from The >> >> Austin Python Meetup. >> >> To learn more about Brad Allen, visit his/her member profile: >> >> http://www.meetup.com/austinpython/members/1755741/ >> >> To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here: >> >> http://www.meetup.com/austinpython/settings/ >> >> Meetup, PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 | >> >> support at meetup.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone >> > on >> > this mailing list (python-188 at meetup.com) >> > This message was sent by eric (ejmalloy at gmail.com) from The Austin >> > Python >> > Meetup. >> > To learn more about eric, visit his/her member profile >> > To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here >> > >> > Meetup, PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 | >> > support at meetup.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Texas mailing list >> Texas at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > > > -- > Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source > Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051 > From bradallen137 at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 20:49:37 2011 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 13:49:37 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas 2011 Sponsor Prospectus Needs Review Message-ID: I plan to deliver the sponsor prospectus as a PDF file, rather than a wiki page, since once it's defined it should not be edited. Currently it's in the form of a Google Doc which should be easy to convert to a PDF. Please take a look. If you're interested in helping with editing or design of the document, please let me know your input. Those of you who have a gmail id can easily be invited to edit the document directly. https://docs.google.com/document/d/18f71dhrD7lDIPeE1E5QojglnhfOsbqY1UdB4fwTt4wM/edit?hl=en_US Some of you who are past speakers at PyTexas are listed in this document; please look for your name and let me know if you want the text changed. I want to send out this document as soon as possible, probably by Mon or Tues, so if you have edits please let me know right away. From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 23:53:25 2011 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:53:25 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Fwd: PyTexas logo In-Reply-To: <4622A5C4-3874-4B18-86BD-7C436DBDDFA6@gnosis.cx> References: <8E8E42A3-F56E-4236-B741-4E5DEA35E4CE@gnosis.cx> <4622A5C4-3874-4B18-86BD-7C436DBDDFA6@gnosis.cx> Message-ID: Looks like we need to come up with a different logo to display on the PyTexas website. The current logo looks too much like the PSF logo. Forwarded conversation Subject: PyTexas logo ------------------------ From: *David Mertz* Date: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:19 PM To: bradallen137 at gmail.com, PSF Trademarks Cc: David Mertz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Brad, One of the committee members of the Python Software Foundation Trademarks Committee noticed the logo used on your page http://pytexas.org/PyTexas2011. Unfortunately, we have some concern that the modification of the design of the Python logo is dilutive of the trademarked logo, even though it is attractive and clever in design. Moreover, another member observed the non-dilutive (because clearly a different design) logo that is used at http://dfwpython.blogspot.com/2010_05_01_archive.html. I wonder if it would be inconvenient for you at this point in preparation to revert to a design based on the earlier non-dilutive version to aid us in protecting the PSF trademarks. Thank you, David Mertz Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee - -- mertz@ THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: n o gnosis Postmodern Enterprises .cx IN A WORLD W/O WALLS, THERE WOULD BE NO GATES d o z e -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAk4IBMAACgkQvMseJzFyYtLT1wCfa7C9ViZ4jsxQ28NEvlMnCGC2 WJwAoKcJhw5HoZfZw4XE4xbcCn54lI9O =sUQ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------- From: *Brad Allen* Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM To: David Mertz Cc: PSF Trademarks Sure, we can come up with a different logo. Do you mind if I forward your comments to our public mailing list for PyTexas? ---------- From: *David Mertz* Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM To: Brad Allen Cc: David Mertz , PSF Trademarks Please do forward my note to the PyTexas mailing list. 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URL: From travis at domain51.com Tue Jun 28 00:16:50 2011 From: travis at domain51.com (Travis Swicegood) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:16:50 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Fwd: PyTexas logo In-Reply-To: References: <8E8E42A3-F56E-4236-B741-4E5DEA35E4CE@gnosis.cx> <4622A5C4-3874-4B18-86BD-7C436DBDDFA6@gnosis.cx> Message-ID: Can the PyTexas logo be assigned to the PSF so it's considered a version of the official logo? Wouldn't be that hard to make the logo for all 50 states/countries, then it becomes a treatment of the logo. -T On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Looks like we need to come up with a different logo to display on the > PyTexas website. The current logo looks too much like the PSF logo. > > Forwarded conversation > Subject: PyTexas logo > ------------------------ > > From: *David Mertz* > Date: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:19 PM > To: bradallen137 at gmail.com, PSF Trademarks > Cc: David Mertz > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Brad, > > One of the committee members of the Python Software Foundation Trademarks > Committee noticed the logo used on your page > http://pytexas.org/PyTexas2011. Unfortunately, we have some concern that > the modification of the design of the Python logo is dilutive of the > trademarked logo, even though it is attractive and clever in design. > Moreover, another member observed the non-dilutive (because clearly a > different design) logo that is used at > http://dfwpython.blogspot.com/2010_05_01_archive.html. I wonder if it > would be inconvenient for you at this point in preparation to revert to a > design based on the earlier non-dilutive version to aid us in protecting the > PSF trademarks. > > Thank you, David Mertz > Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee > > - -- > mertz@ THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: n o > gnosis Postmodern Enterprises > .cx IN A WORLD W/O WALLS, THERE WOULD BE NO GATES d o z e > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk4IBMAACgkQvMseJzFyYtLT1wCfa7C9ViZ4jsxQ28NEvlMnCGC2 > WJwAoKcJhw5HoZfZw4XE4xbcCn54lI9O > =sUQ3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ---------- > From: *Brad Allen* > Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM > To: David Mertz > Cc: PSF Trademarks > > > Sure, we can come up with a different logo. Do you mind if I forward > your comments to our public mailing list for PyTexas? > > ---------- > From: *David Mertz* > Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM > To: Brad Allen > Cc: David Mertz , PSF Trademarks < > psf-trademarks at python.org> > > > Please do forward my note to the PyTexas mailing list. > > Thank you for your attention to this; I know it seems a little persnickety, > but unfortunately it is in the nature of trademarks that we lose the > protection they offer if we do not take due diligence in limiting their use. > Most certainly, the PSF wishes to support PyTexas, and other local groups, > rather than just cause you headaches. > > Yours, David Mertz > Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee > - -- > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting > advocates of freedom in prisons. Intellectual property is > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th. > iEYEARECAAYFAk4I2S8ACgkQvMseJzFyYtLJcgCdExH7AAl48zHjgCHfy7MjpXp2 > zBwAn0e17LYNI769RCWqYcr3XcdHdzYv > =tIJ6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > -- Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walker.hale.iv at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 00:52:42 2011 From: walker.hale.iv at gmail.com (Walker Hale IV) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:52:42 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Fwd: PyTexas logo In-Reply-To: References: <8E8E42A3-F56E-4236-B741-4E5DEA35E4CE@gnosis.cx> <4622A5C4-3874-4B18-86BD-7C436DBDDFA6@gnosis.cx> Message-ID: I'm not a fan of the 2010 logo, but I feel that the outline of Texas should be part of the logo, since it is so distinctive. I propose placing a snake design inside the outline of Texas, possibly an ouroboros: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros If we go with the 2010 logo, then I think we should add color. (rough sample attached; at a minimum coastline and state color need work) -Walker Hale On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Looks like we need to come up with a different logo to display on the > PyTexas website. The current logo looks too much like the PSF logo. > > Forwarded conversation > Subject: PyTexas logo > ------------------------ > > From: David Mertz > Date: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:19 PM > To: bradallen137 at gmail.com, PSF Trademarks > Cc: David Mertz > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Brad, > > One of the committee members of the Python Software Foundation Trademarks > Committee noticed the logo used on your page http://pytexas.org/PyTexas2011. > ?Unfortunately, we have some concern that the modification of the design of > the Python logo is dilutive of the trademarked logo, even though it is > attractive and clever in design. ?Moreover, another member observed the > non-dilutive (because clearly a different design) logo that is used at > http://dfwpython.blogspot.com/2010_05_01_archive.html. ?I wonder if it would > be inconvenient for you at this point in preparation to revert to a design > based on the earlier non-dilutive version to aid us in protecting the PSF > trademarks. > > Thank you, David Mertz > Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee > > - -- > mertz@ ? ? THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: ? ? ? ? ? n o > gnosis ? ? ? ? ? ? Postmodern Enterprises > .cx ? ? ?IN A WORLD W/O WALLS, THERE WOULD BE NO GATES ? d o z e > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk4IBMAACgkQvMseJzFyYtLT1wCfa7C9ViZ4jsxQ28NEvlMnCGC2 > WJwAoKcJhw5HoZfZw4XE4xbcCn54lI9O > =sUQ3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ---------- > From: Brad Allen > Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM > To: David Mertz > Cc: PSF Trademarks > > > Sure, we can come up with a different logo. Do you mind if I forward > your comments to our public mailing list for PyTexas? > > ---------- > From: David Mertz > Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM > To: Brad Allen > Cc: David Mertz , PSF Trademarks > > > > Please do forward my note to the PyTexas mailing list. > > Thank you for your attention to this; I know it seems a little persnickety, > but unfortunately it is in the nature of trademarks that we lose the > protection they offer if we do not take due diligence in limiting their use. > ?Most certainly, the PSF wishes to support PyTexas, and other local groups, > rather than just cause you headaches. > > Yours, David Mertz > Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee > - -- > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting > advocates of freedom in prisons. ?Intellectual property is > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th. > iEYEARECAAYFAk4I2S8ACgkQvMseJzFyYtLJcgCdExH7AAl48zHjgCHfy7MjpXp2 > zBwAn0e17LYNI769RCWqYcr3XcdHdzYv > =tIJ6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Those of you > who have a gmail id can easily be invited to edit the document > directly. > > ? ?https://docs.google.com/document/d/18f71dhrD7lDIPeE1E5QojglnhfOsbqY1UdB4fwTt4wM/edit?hl=en_US > > Some of you who are past speakers at PyTexas are listed in this > document; please look for your name and let me know if you want the > text changed. > > I want to send out this document as soon as possible, probably by Mon > or Tues, so if you have edits please let me know right away. > From jeff at taupro.com Tue Jun 28 03:58:51 2011 From: jeff at taupro.com (Jeff Rush) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:58:51 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Fwd: PyTexas logo In-Reply-To: References: <8E8E42A3-F56E-4236-B741-4E5DEA35E4CE@gnosis.cx> <4622A5C4-3874-4B18-86BD-7C436DBDDFA6@gnosis.cx> Message-ID: <4E09355B.7030504@taupro.com> On 06/27/2011 05:52 PM, Walker Hale IV wrote: > I'm not a fan of the 2010 logo, but I feel that the outline of Texas > should be part of the logo, since it is so distinctive. I propose > placing a snake design inside the outline of Texas, possibly an > ouroboros: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros > > If we go with the 2010 logo, then I think we should add color. (rough > sample attached; at a minimum coastline and state color need work) It is acceptable to the PSF I believe if you place the Python logo (unmodified) -within- another graphic, so perhaps we could use the Texas state graphic you have but put the Python logo on the map over College Station. Or perhaps some other embedded of the Python logo into a Texas symbol. -Jeff From walker.hale.iv at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 06:12:37 2011 From: walker.hale.iv at gmail.com (Walker Hale IV) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:12:37 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Fwd: PyTexas logo In-Reply-To: <4E09355B.7030504@taupro.com> References: <8E8E42A3-F56E-4236-B741-4E5DEA35E4CE@gnosis.cx> <4622A5C4-3874-4B18-86BD-7C436DBDDFA6@gnosis.cx> <4E09355B.7030504@taupro.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Jeff Rush wrote: > It is acceptable to the PSF I believe if you place the Python logo > (unmodified) -within- another graphic, so perhaps we could use the Texas > state graphic you have but put the Python logo on the map over College > Station. ?Or perhaps some other embedded of the Python logo into a Texas > symbol. I like the idea of placing the official Python logo inside Texas, but I didn't think we could do that. Good catch, Jeff! I wouldn't try to center it on College Station for two reasons: (1) Doing so may produce a less pleasing result. (2) College Station is not so special that its exact location should drive the logo design. I have attached a rough draft of Jeff's idea. Before anyone invests time in this logo we would need to: (1) Decide that we are really interested in using it (2) Contact the PSF in order to obtain permission See http://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/ (go to Derived Logos and read the last bullet point). If we decide to use it then someone with real graphics tools and skills should redo this from scratch, starting with the source material at http://www.python.org/community/logos/ -Walker -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Walker Hale IV wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Jeff Rush wrote: > > It is acceptable to the PSF I believe if you place the Python logo > > (unmodified) -within- another graphic, so perhaps we could use the Texas > > state graphic you have but put the Python logo on the map over College > > Station. Or perhaps some other embedded of the Python logo into a Texas > > symbol. > > I like the idea of placing the official Python logo inside Texas, but > I didn't think we could do that. Good catch, Jeff! > > I wouldn't try to center it on College Station for two reasons: > > (1) Doing so may produce a less pleasing result. > (2) College Station is not so special that its exact location should > drive the logo design. > > I have attached a rough draft of Jeff's idea. Before anyone invests > time in this logo we would need to: > > (1) Decide that we are really interested in using it > (2) Contact the PSF in order to obtain permission > > See http://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/ (go to Derived Logos and > read the last bullet point). > > If we decide to use it then someone with real graphics tools and > skills should redo this from scratch, starting with the source > material at http://www.python.org/community/logos/ > > -Walker > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > -- Jeremy Boyd boydjj at gmail.com 512-586-4587 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kevin.horn at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 08:36:56 2011 From: kevin.horn at gmail.com (Kevin Horn) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:36:56 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Fwd: PyTexas logo In-Reply-To: References: <8E8E42A3-F56E-4236-B741-4E5DEA35E4CE@gnosis.cx> <4622A5C4-3874-4B18-86BD-7C436DBDDFA6@gnosis.cx> <4E09355B.7030504@taupro.com> Message-ID: I was under the impression that the PSF had been consulted regarding the existing logo (though I confess, I can't recall why I think that). Was this not the case? Do we know who created it, originally? Regarding the Texas + Python Logo design...I also agree that there is no reason for the logo to be placed on College Station. Center it. Kevin Horn On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Jeremy Boyd wrote: > I agree with Walker on the placement, although I think a closely related > point is that roughly centering it makes the logo reusable in the future and > without specific reference to any part of Texas. Also, giving the logo the > proper size sort of precludes placing it anywhere but in the center. > > That said, +1 for Travis's idea, if it's at all possible. I think the > proposed (and endangered) logo is pretty attractive. > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Walker Hale IV > wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Jeff Rush wrote: >> > It is acceptable to the PSF I believe if you place the Python logo >> > (unmodified) -within- another graphic, so perhaps we could use the Texas >> > state graphic you have but put the Python logo on the map over College >> > Station. Or perhaps some other embedded of the Python logo into a Texas >> > symbol. >> >> I like the idea of placing the official Python logo inside Texas, but >> I didn't think we could do that. Good catch, Jeff! >> >> I wouldn't try to center it on College Station for two reasons: >> >> (1) Doing so may produce a less pleasing result. >> (2) College Station is not so special that its exact location should >> drive the logo design. >> >> I have attached a rough draft of Jeff's idea. Before anyone invests >> time in this logo we would need to: >> >> (1) Decide that we are really interested in using it >> (2) Contact the PSF in order to obtain permission >> >> See http://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/ (go to Derived Logos and >> read the last bullet point). >> >> If we decide to use it then someone with real graphics tools and >> skills should redo this from scratch, starting with the source >> material at http://www.python.org/community/logos/ >> >> -Walker >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texas mailing list >> Texas at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas >> >> > > > -- > Jeremy Boyd > boydjj at gmail.com > 512-586-4587 > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From travis at domain51.com Tue Jun 28 08:27:44 2011 From: travis at domain51.com (Travis Swicegood) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:27:44 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Fwd: Fwd: PyTexas logo In-Reply-To: References: <8E8E42A3-F56E-4236-B741-4E5DEA35E4CE@gnosis.cx> <4622A5C4-3874-4B18-86BD-7C436DBDDFA6@gnosis.cx> Message-ID: Hi David; I'm curious for some feedback on the proposal below. Is it workable to turn the PyTexas logo over to the PSF and recognize it as owned by them and still be able to keep it? The Python logo really lends itself to the treatment it was given for PyTexas 2011 and would look really slick done that way for all of the other 50 states and even other countries. I would love to see the current logo stick around if there's anything that can be done to save it. Are there any legal grounds for you guys doing a variation like the PyTexas logo that the PSF owns without diluting the original TM? -T ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Travis Swicegood Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texas] Fwd: PyTexas logo To: Brad Allen Cc: Texas Python User Group Can the PyTexas logo be assigned to the PSF so it's considered a version of the official logo? Wouldn't be that hard to make the logo for all 50 states/countries, then it becomes a treatment of the logo. -T On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Looks like we need to come up with a different logo to display on the > PyTexas website. The current logo looks too much like the PSF logo. > > Forwarded conversation > Subject: PyTexas logo > ------------------------ > > From: *David Mertz* > Date: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:19 PM > To: bradallen137 at gmail.com, PSF Trademarks > Cc: David Mertz > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Brad, > > One of the committee members of the Python Software Foundation Trademarks > Committee noticed the logo used on your page > http://pytexas.org/PyTexas2011. Unfortunately, we have some concern that > the modification of the design of the Python logo is dilutive of the > trademarked logo, even though it is attractive and clever in design. > Moreover, another member observed the non-dilutive (because clearly a > different design) logo that is used at > http://dfwpython.blogspot.com/2010_05_01_archive.html. I wonder if it > would be inconvenient for you at this point in preparation to revert to a > design based on the earlier non-dilutive version to aid us in protecting the > PSF trademarks. > > Thank you, David Mertz > Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee > > - -- > mertz@ THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: n o > gnosis Postmodern Enterprises > .cx IN A WORLD W/O WALLS, THERE WOULD BE NO GATES d o z e > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk4IBMAACgkQvMseJzFyYtLT1wCfa7C9ViZ4jsxQ28NEvlMnCGC2 > WJwAoKcJhw5HoZfZw4XE4xbcCn54lI9O > =sUQ3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ---------- > From: *Brad Allen* > Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM > To: David Mertz > Cc: PSF Trademarks > > > Sure, we can come up with a different logo. Do you mind if I forward > your comments to our public mailing list for PyTexas? > > ---------- > From: *David Mertz* > Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM > To: Brad Allen > Cc: David Mertz , PSF Trademarks < > psf-trademarks at python.org> > > > Please do forward my note to the PyTexas mailing list. > > Thank you for your attention to this; I know it seems a little persnickety, > but unfortunately it is in the nature of trademarks that we lose the > protection they offer if we do not take due diligence in limiting their use. > Most certainly, the PSF wishes to support PyTexas, and other local groups, > rather than just cause you headaches. > > Yours, David Mertz > Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee > - -- > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting > advocates of freedom in prisons. Intellectual property is > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th. > iEYEARECAAYFAk4I2S8ACgkQvMseJzFyYtLJcgCdExH7AAl48zHjgCHfy7MjpXp2 > zBwAn0e17LYNI769RCWqYcr3XcdHdzYv > =tIJ6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > -- Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051 -- Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The PSF blog post announcing the survey: http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2011/06/tell-us-about-your-user-group.html The survey was written by Jessica McKellar (http://jesstess.com), organizer for the Boston Python Meetup (http://meetup.bostonpython.com), and Jesse Noller (http://jessenoller.com/), PSF board member and PyCon chair with input and feedback from survey specialists and others. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BWLG8SZ The survey was pretested with a handful of user group organizers, and their answers were phenomenal. Organizers have tons to say about these topics, and we hope to get a lot of great, actionable data for strengthening the relationship between the PSF and Python user groups out of this effort. Outreach, education, diversity and community building are critical for Python as a community, and the Foundation - this data should greatly assist in our targeting our resources and furthering the mission of the Foundation in all ways. 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wrote: > Send Texas mailing list submissions to > texas at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > texas-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > texas-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Texas digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: Fwd: PyTexas logo (Travis Swicegood) > 2. Python User Group International Survey (Brian Curtin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:27:44 -0500 > From: Travis Swicegood > To: mertz at gnosis.cx > Cc: Texas Python User Group > Subject: [Texas] Fwd: Fwd: PyTexas logo > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi David; > > I'm curious for some feedback on the proposal below. Is it workable to turn > the PyTexas logo over to the PSF and recognize it as owned by them and still > be able to keep it? The Python logo really lends itself to the treatment it > was given for PyTexas 2011 and would look really slick done that way for all > of the other 50 states and even other countries. > > I would love to see the current logo stick around if there's anything that > can be done to save it. Are there any legal grounds for you guys doing a > variation like the PyTexas logo that the PSF owns without diluting the > original TM? > > -T > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Travis Swicegood > Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Texas] Fwd: PyTexas logo > To: Brad Allen > Cc: Texas Python User Group > > > Can the PyTexas logo be assigned to the PSF so it's considered a version of > the official logo? Wouldn't be that hard to make the logo for all 50 > states/countries, then it becomes a treatment of the logo. > > -T > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > >> Looks like we need to come up with a different logo to display on the >> PyTexas website. The current logo looks too much like the PSF logo. >> >> Forwarded conversation >> Subject: PyTexas logo >> ------------------------ >> >> From: *David Mertz* >> Date: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:19 PM >> To: bradallen137 at gmail.com, PSF Trademarks >> Cc: David Mertz >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi Brad, >> >> One of the committee members of the Python Software Foundation Trademarks >> Committee noticed the logo used on your page >> http://pytexas.org/PyTexas2011. Unfortunately, we have some concern that >> the modification of the design of the Python logo is dilutive of the >> trademarked logo, even though it is attractive and clever in design. >> Moreover, another member observed the non-dilutive (because clearly a >> different design) logo that is used at >> http://dfwpython.blogspot.com/2010_05_01_archive.html. I wonder if it >> would be inconvenient for you at this point in preparation to revert to a >> design based on the earlier non-dilutive version to aid us in protecting the >> PSF trademarks. >> >> Thank you, David Mertz >> Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee >> >> - -- >> mertz@ THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: n o >> gnosis Postmodern Enterprises >> .cx IN A WORLD W/O WALLS, THERE WOULD BE NO GATES d o z e >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAk4IBMAACgkQvMseJzFyYtLT1wCfa7C9ViZ4jsxQ28NEvlMnCGC2 >> WJwAoKcJhw5HoZfZw4XE4xbcCn54lI9O >> =sUQ3 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> ---------- >> From: *Brad Allen* >> Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM >> To: David Mertz >> Cc: PSF Trademarks >> >> >> Sure, we can come up with a different logo. Do you mind if I forward >> your comments to our public mailing list for PyTexas? >> >> ---------- >> From: *David Mertz* >> Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM >> To: Brad Allen >> Cc: David Mertz , PSF Trademarks < >> psf-trademarks at python.org> >> >> >> Please do forward my note to the PyTexas mailing list. >> >> Thank you for your attention to this; I know it seems a little persnickety, >> but unfortunately it is in the nature of trademarks that we lose the >> protection they offer if we do not take due diligence in limiting their use. >> Most certainly, the PSF wishes to support PyTexas, and other local groups, >> rather than just cause you headaches. >> >> Yours, David Mertz >> Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee >> - -- >> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food >> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the >> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting >> advocates of freedom in prisons. Intellectual property is >> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th. >> iEYEARECAAYFAk4I2S8ACgkQvMseJzFyYtLJcgCdExH7AAl48zHjgCHfy7MjpXp2 >> zBwAn0e17LYNI769RCWqYcr3XcdHdzYv >> =tIJ6 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texas mailing list >> Texas at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas >> >> > > > -- > Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source > Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051 > > > > -- > Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source > Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:21:29 -0500 > From: Brian Curtin > To: texas at python.org > Subject: [Texas] Python User Group International Survey > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > The PSF is happy to launch today an international survey of Python user > group organizers to help it better serve the large and ever-expanding > international Python user community. > > The survey contains questions on user group organization, events, > demographics, and growth. There are some questions with numerical > answers, and while your best guess is fine, you may find it helpful to > gather some statistics on your user group membership before starting > the survey (example statistics include the number of active members > and the size and topics for recent user group events). > > We expect this survey to take around 30 minutes to complete. We > appreciate your time and honesty in answering these questions. > > The PSF blog post announcing the survey: > http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2011/06/tell-us-about-your-user-group.html > > The survey was written by Jessica McKellar (http://jesstess.com), > organizer for the Boston Python Meetup > (http://meetup.bostonpython.com), and Jesse Noller > (http://jessenoller.com/), PSF board member and PyCon chair with input > and feedback from survey specialists and others. > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BWLG8SZ > > The survey was pretested with a handful of user group organizers, and > their answers were phenomenal. Organizers have tons to say about these > topics, and we hope to get a lot of great, actionable data for > strengthening the relationship between the PSF and Python user groups > out of this effort. > > Outreach, education, diversity and community building are critical for > Python as a community, and the Foundation - this data should greatly > assist in our targeting our resources and furthering the mission of > the Foundation in all ways. > > Thank you > > The Python Software Foundation > Jessica McKellar > Jesse Noller > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > > End of Texas Digest, Vol 30, Issue 9 > ************************************ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pytexas2.jpg Type: image/jpg Size: 13035 bytes Desc: pytexas2.jpg URL: From jeremy at 33ad.org Wed Jun 29 16:40:54 2011 From: jeremy at 33ad.org (Jeremy Kelley) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:40:54 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Texas Digest, Vol 30, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <6CC0D311-EC3F-4513-A4ED-B49B0252373D@baylor.edu> References: <6CC0D311-EC3F-4513-A4ED-B49B0252373D@baylor.edu> Message-ID: How about this one? -jeremy On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Langley, Jeremy I. < Jeremy_Langley at baylor.edu> wrote: > > We can go with a different logo? > I would propose something totally different. > [cid:b929994b-3ee6-49c0-ac97-bca99d86260a at baylor.edu] > > What do you think of the logo? > > Anyway do we want to take the legal stance of parody's as exempt from this > type of action? (I'm not a lawyer nor do I claim to portray one on TV). > > -Jeremy > > > On Jun 29, 2011, at 5:00 AM, < > texas-request at python.org> wrote: > > > Send Texas mailing list submissions to > > texas at python.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > texas-request at python.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > texas-owner at python.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Texas digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Fwd: Fwd: PyTexas logo (Travis Swicegood) > > 2. Python User Group International Survey (Brian Curtin) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:27:44 -0500 > > From: Travis Swicegood > > To: mertz at gnosis.cx > > Cc: Texas Python User Group > > Subject: [Texas] Fwd: Fwd: PyTexas logo > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hi David; > > > > I'm curious for some feedback on the proposal below. Is it workable to > turn > > the PyTexas logo over to the PSF and recognize it as owned by them and > still > > be able to keep it? The Python logo really lends itself to the treatment > it > > was given for PyTexas 2011 and would look really slick done that way for > all > > of the other 50 states and even other countries. > > > > I would love to see the current logo stick around if there's anything > that > > can be done to save it. Are there any legal grounds for you guys doing a > > variation like the PyTexas logo that the PSF owns without diluting the > > original TM? > > > > -T > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Travis Swicegood > > Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [Texas] Fwd: PyTexas logo > > To: Brad Allen > > Cc: Texas Python User Group > > > > > > Can the PyTexas logo be assigned to the PSF so it's considered a version > of > > the official logo? Wouldn't be that hard to make the logo for all 50 > > states/countries, then it becomes a treatment of the logo. > > > > -T > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > > > >> Looks like we need to come up with a different logo to display on the > >> PyTexas website. The current logo looks too much like the PSF logo. > >> > >> Forwarded conversation > >> Subject: PyTexas logo > >> ------------------------ > >> > >> From: *David Mertz* > >> Date: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:19 PM > >> To: bradallen137 at gmail.com, PSF Trademarks > >> Cc: David Mertz > >> > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Hi Brad, > >> > >> One of the committee members of the Python Software Foundation > Trademarks > >> Committee noticed the logo used on your page > >> http://pytexas.org/PyTexas2011. Unfortunately, we have some concern > that > >> the modification of the design of the Python logo is dilutive of the > >> trademarked logo, even though it is attractive and clever in design. > >> Moreover, another member observed the non-dilutive (because clearly a > >> different design) logo that is used at > >> http://dfwpython.blogspot.com/2010_05_01_archive.html. I wonder if it > >> would be inconvenient for you at this point in preparation to revert to > a > >> design based on the earlier non-dilutive version to aid us in protecting > the > >> PSF trademarks. > >> > >> Thank you, David Mertz > >> Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee > >> > >> - -- > >> mertz@ THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: n o > >> gnosis Postmodern Enterprises > >> .cx IN A WORLD W/O WALLS, THERE WOULD BE NO GATES d o z e > >> > >> > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > >> > >> iEYEARECAAYFAk4IBMAACgkQvMseJzFyYtLT1wCfa7C9ViZ4jsxQ28NEvlMnCGC2 > >> WJwAoKcJhw5HoZfZw4XE4xbcCn54lI9O > >> =sUQ3 > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > >> ---------- > >> From: *Brad Allen* > >> Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM > >> To: David Mertz > >> Cc: PSF Trademarks > >> > >> > >> Sure, we can come up with a different logo. Do you mind if I forward > >> your comments to our public mailing list for PyTexas? > >> > >> ---------- > >> From: *David Mertz* > >> Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM > >> To: Brad Allen > >> Cc: David Mertz , PSF Trademarks < > >> psf-trademarks at python.org> > >> > >> > >> Please do forward my note to the PyTexas mailing list. > >> > >> Thank you for your attention to this; I know it seems a little > persnickety, > >> but unfortunately it is in the nature of trademarks that we lose the > >> protection they offer if we do not take due diligence in limiting their > use. > >> Most certainly, the PSF wishes to support PyTexas, and other local > groups, > >> rather than just cause you headaches. > >> > >> Yours, David Mertz > >> Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee > >> - -- > >> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food > >> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the > >> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting > >> advocates of freedom in prisons. Intellectual property is > >> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th. > >> iEYEARECAAYFAk4I2S8ACgkQvMseJzFyYtLJcgCdExH7AAl48zHjgCHfy7MjpXp2 > >> zBwAn0e17LYNI769RCWqYcr3XcdHdzYv > >> =tIJ6 > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Texas mailing list > >> Texas at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source > > Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051 > > > > > > > > -- > > Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source > > Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051 > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/texas/attachments/20110628/961e2e4a/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:21:29 -0500 > > From: Brian Curtin > > To: texas at python.org > > Subject: [Texas] Python User Group International Survey > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > The PSF is happy to launch today an international survey of Python user > > group organizers to help it better serve the large and ever-expanding > > international Python user community. > > > > The survey contains questions on user group organization, events, > > demographics, and growth. There are some questions with numerical > > answers, and while your best guess is fine, you may find it helpful to > > gather some statistics on your user group membership before starting > > the survey (example statistics include the number of active members > > and the size and topics for recent user group events). > > > > We expect this survey to take around 30 minutes to complete. We > > appreciate your time and honesty in answering these questions. > > > > The PSF blog post announcing the survey: > > http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2011/06/tell-us-about-your-user-group.html > > > > The survey was written by Jessica McKellar (http://jesstess.com), > > organizer for the Boston Python Meetup > > (http://meetup.bostonpython.com), and Jesse Noller > > (http://jessenoller.com/), PSF board member and PyCon chair with input > > and feedback from survey specialists and others. > > > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BWLG8SZ > > > > The survey was pretested with a handful of user group organizers, and > > their answers were phenomenal. Organizers have tons to say about these > > topics, and we hope to get a lot of great, actionable data for > > strengthening the relationship between the PSF and Python user groups > > out of this effort. > > > > Outreach, education, diversity and community building are critical for > > Python as a community, and the Foundation - this data should greatly > > assist in our targeting our resources and furthering the mission of > > the Foundation in all ways. > > > > Thank you > > > > The Python Software Foundation > > Jessica McKellar > > Jesse Noller > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/texas/attachments/20110628/b5566b06/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Texas mailing list > > Texas at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > > > > > End of Texas Digest, Vol 30, Issue 9 > > ************************************ > > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > -- The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried ? G. K. Chesterton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bikeshed.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 114568 bytes Desc: not available URL: From walker.hale.iv at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 18:13:22 2011 From: walker.hale.iv at gmail.com (Walker Hale IV) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:13:22 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Texas Digest, Vol 30, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <6CC0D311-EC3F-4513-A4ED-B49B0252373D@baylor.edu> References: <6CC0D311-EC3F-4513-A4ED-B49B0252373D@baylor.edu> Message-ID: This is a clever logo, but it is the most violating of PSF trademark protection. Using it, especially without permission could damage the Python Software Foundation's claim to the official Python logo. (In trademark law, if you don't defend your logo against derivatives, you loose ownership of the logo.) Please read the section on "Derived Logos" in http://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/ Then again, perhaps the tag in the message signifies that we should not take this logo seriously. It's really clever. -Walker On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Langley, Jeremy I. wrote: > > We can go with a different logo? > I would propose something totally different. > [cid:b929994b-3ee6-49c0-ac97-bca99d86260a at baylor.edu] > > What do you think of the logo? > > Anyway do we want to take the legal stance of parody's as exempt from this type of action? ?(I'm not a lawyer nor do I claim to portray one on TV). > > -Jeremy