From ubershmekel at gmail.com  Sat Dec 15 15:21:00 2012
From: ubershmekel at gmail.com (Yuval Greenfield)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:21:00 +0200
Subject: [stdlib-sig] Python3WOS has gone over 50%
Message-ID: <CANSw7KwKr2dukK0+1RUkW+nPHOPQCTdUwevH4Gkv=qOAcOaXCg@mail.gmail.com>

Over 50% of the top 200 most downloaded packages on PyPI are python 3
compatible.

So http://python3wos.appspot.com/ has become the Python 3 Wall of
Superpowers.

It took 4 years from the initial python 3.0 release.

No one expected 3.0 to be picked up as fast as any 2.X increment, though 4
years feels like a bit much to me.

Anyways, congratulations to us & python!



Yuval Greenfield
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From barry at python.org  Thu Dec 20 20:02:20 2012
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:02:20 -0500
Subject: [stdlib-sig] Python3WOS has gone over 50%
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On Dec 15, 2012, at 04:21 PM, Yuval Greenfield wrote:

>Over 50% of the top 200 most downloaded packages on PyPI are python 3
>compatible.

This is really fantastic.  We're turning a corner and I think we're at the
point were *not* having Python 3 support means the package is crufty and
old. :) It's great to see big projects like Twisted and Django getting their
first Python 3 compatible versions in people's hands too.

>So http://python3wos.appspot.com/ has become the Python 3 Wall of
>Superpowers.
>
>It took 4 years from the initial python 3.0 release.

So we're ahead of Guido's schedule, eh? :)

>No one expected 3.0 to be picked up as fast as any 2.X increment, though 4
>years feels like a bit much to me.

Too me, it feels like the right time.  We've been making a big push in Ubuntu
to get our important packages ported over to Python 3, and I know that can't
have happened without lots of excellent contributions all across the Python
universe.  There are still a few packages that cause us pain (I'm looking at
you Xapian ;), but all-in-all, it's really fantastic.

>Anyways, congratulations to us & python!

Indeed.  Keep up the great work, and maybe we'll kill off Python 2 in another
4 years. :)

Cheers,
-Barry


From rdmurray at bitdance.com  Thu Dec 20 20:13:59 2012
From: rdmurray at bitdance.com (R. David Murray)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:13:59 -0500
Subject: [stdlib-sig] Python3WOS has gone over 50%
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:02:20 -0500, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2012, at 04:21 PM, Yuval Greenfield wrote:
> >Anyways, congratulations to us & python!
> 
> Indeed.  Keep up the great work, and maybe we'll kill off Python 2 in another
> 4 years. :)

Not a chance, I'm afraid.  I've got a customer who has production systems
that are still running Python2.4.  But in another four years we might
indeed be down to just those same kind of legacy systems.

--David

From barry at python.org  Thu Dec 20 20:23:09 2012
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:23:09 -0500
Subject: [stdlib-sig] Python3WOS has gone over 50%
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On Dec 20, 2012, at 02:13 PM, R. David Murray wrote:

>Not a chance, I'm afraid.  I've got a customer who has production systems
>that are still running Python2.4.  But in another four years we might
>indeed be down to just those same kind of legacy systems.

There are still people running Python 1.5.2 ;).

-Barry

From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 20:57:21 2012
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (fwierzbicki at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:57:21 -0800
Subject: [stdlib-sig] Python3WOS has gone over 50%
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On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Yuval Greenfield <ubershmekel at gmail.com> wrote:
> Over 50% of the top 200 most downloaded packages on PyPI are python 3
> compatible.
Uh oh - that's going to put some serious heat on the need for a Jython3 :)