[stdlib-sig] GHOP / py3k

Michael Foord michael at voidspace.org.uk
Wed Sep 16 22:10:06 CEST 2009


Brett Cannon wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 07:49, C. Titus Brown <ctb at msu.edu> wrote:
>   
>>> Michael said:
>>> Armin said:
>>>       
>>>> That, and a group of
>>>> people, dedicated to standard library refactoring.  The majority of
>>>> libraries in the standard library are small and easy to understand, I'm
>>>> sure they are perfectly suited for students on projects like GSOC or
>>>> GHOP to work on.  They could even be used as some sort of "playground"
>>>> for new Python developers.
>>>>         
>>> It would be a great project for GHOP *if* we have some experienced
>>> developers, like yourself, dedicated to working out what the things that
>>> need fixing are.
>>>       
>> Testing and doc updates worked reasonably well within GHOP last time,
>> and surprisingly little in the way of "experienced developers" were
>> needed.  Faced with the responsibility of coming up with dozens of tasks
>> on short notice, I picked a dozen stdlib modules and said
>>
>>  test this
>>  integrate doug hellmann's documentation
>>  run through the existing examples and write more
>>
>> ...and voila, it happened and attracted positive notice from the BDFL,
>> which is saying something.
>>
>>     
>
> We can also run figleaf or coverage.py across the standard library and
> see which modules have horrible test coverage.
>
>   
>> By far the most important part of that process was not my role in
>> putting the tasks up, but Georg's role in reviewing the patches and
>> committing them in a timely manner.  I can't speak for how much time he
>> spent doing that, however, and I certainly don't expect that level of
>> effort from HIM this time; perhaps with Mercurial we can get
>> non-committers to act as first-pass filters to reduce the strain on
>> Georg or whoever steps into his shoes. [0]
>>
>>     
>
> Hey, I helped a lot last time (and plan to do so again). As for the
> Mercurial thing, it might not happen by December, so don't rely on
> that (although we always have the mirrors so we can instruct the
> students on how to use those).
>
>   

I'll try and help.

Michael

>> Perhaps this time we can focus on py3k stuff with GHOP; that'd be great,
>> and a real community boost, IMO.
>>     
>
> One possibility is to simply only care about the test and doc changes for py3k.
>
> -Brett
>   


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