From amedee at vangasse.eu Wed Dec 1 18:06:21 2010 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 18:06:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] Can spambayes reject a message back to its sender? In-Reply-To: <19701.15819.374081.113992@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <09F2161AFFBF412BA255DAE74F40C4D1@StuartsA10> <19701.15819.374081.113992@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <5729b8f67aa2feb5af0edbbe962b016b.squirrel@amedee.be> On Tue, November 30, 2010 19:09, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Stuart> I've been using spambayes for a couple of years to really good > Stuart> effect with Outlook 2003. > > Stuart> Yesterday I accidentally clicked "spam" on a message that > wasn't > Stuart> spam. Today that person has told me his messages to be are > Stuart> returned "you do not have permission to sent to this > Stuart> recipient". All other mail is coming as normal. > > That must be an Outlook feature. SpamBayes does nothing other than > compute > a spamminess score for the messages it's fed. > > Stuart> * Does everyone on the spam list get a refusal to deliver > Stuart> messages? I thought the messages just went into the spam > Stuart> folder. > > I don't use Outlook, but in my environment, SpamBayes adds a header to > the message with the computed score, then further downstream procmail > tosses the message in the appropriate folder. You can untrain a false positive by locating it in the spam folder and marking it as ham. Concerning the error message, that is not even an Outlook feature. It is a typical Exchange error message. Spambayes certainly has no influence at all on Exchange. It can only be a coincidence that these messages started around the same time. Ask your (or his) Exchange administrator for more information. -- Amedee From jeffeber at ptd.net Thu Dec 2 13:20:50 2010 From: jeffeber at ptd.net (Jeff Eberhardt) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 07:20:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] MS Outlook 2010 Message-ID: <000001cb921b$5ba91110$12fb3330$@ptd.net> SpamBayes, I absolutely love your spambayes program and I have been using since 2003. I recently upgraded to Outlook 2010. When I checked your website, I did not see an version compatible with outlook 2010. Is the latest release 1.0.4 compatible or are you working on a newer version? Thanks for your wonderful program, Respectfully, Jeff Eberhardt jeffeber at ptd.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's a reference: http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg07293.html I'll update the table on the website. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From skip at pobox.com Thu Dec 2 16:24:07 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 09:24:07 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes.org table updated, SpamBayes for Warhammer Online... In-Reply-To: <19703.45076.303389.547153@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <000001cb921b$5ba91110$12fb3330$@ptd.net> <19703.45076.303389.547153@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <19703.47639.917387.939038@montanaro.dyndns.org> I updated the release table on the http://www.spambayes.org/ home page. There are so many versions of Outlook and Windows out there that I just collapsed them all into a single row. I think I got the restrictions right (won't work with Windows 3.1 & ME or with Outlook < 2000, 64-bit support is still not quite there). I am not a Windows person though, so I may well have misstated something. I would appreciate it if some Windows users checked the table for correctness. For Thunderbird users, Arnaud Dovi updated ThunderBayes to work with Thunderbird v3. I added a row for that. Are there any rows I should simply delete? For all you gamer types... Arnaud also wrote an addon for Warhammer Online which uses the core SpamBayes algorithm, ported to Ruby, I believe: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4792993 -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From BobShipley at rmrelevator.com Thu Dec 2 16:16:12 2010 From: BobShipley at rmrelevator.com (Bob Shipley) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 10:16:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes Folder select problem Message-ID: I recently changed from a POP3 to IMAP e mail account. Spambayes reports that it is watching for Spam. When I go to the Filtering tab and click browse next to the arrive folder, the list is blank. Is there a way to edit this? Bob Shipley R.M.R. Elevator Co. Inc. 1401 Roselle St Linden, NJ 07036 800-648-0017 Toll Free 908-925-9811 Office 908-925-9533 Fax 908-313-0691 Cell BobShipley at RMRElevator.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amedee at vangasse.eu Thu Dec 2 16:55:43 2010 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:55:43 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes.org table updated, SpamBayes for Warhammer Online... In-Reply-To: <19703.47639.917387.939038@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <000001cb921b$5ba91110$12fb3330$@ptd.net> <19703.45076.303389.547153@montanaro.dyndns.org> <19703.47639.917387.939038@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <59618ac896b561a8eeba286c36830b36.squirrel@amedee.be> On Thu, December 2, 2010 16:24, skip at pobox.com wrote: > For all you gamer types... Arnaud also wrote an addon for Warhammer > Online > which uses the core SpamBayes algorithm, ported to Ruby, I believe: > > http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4792993 I should get my hands wet and port this for Lord Of The Rings Online. I believe they use Lua. -- Amedee From skip at pobox.com Thu Dec 2 20:54:47 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 13:54:47 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes.org table updated, SpamBayes for Warhammer Online... In-Reply-To: <59618ac896b561a8eeba286c36830b36.squirrel@amedee.be> References: <000001cb921b$5ba91110$12fb3330$@ptd.net> <19703.45076.303389.547153@montanaro.dyndns.org> <19703.47639.917387.939038@montanaro.dyndns.org> <59618ac896b561a8eeba286c36830b36.squirrel@amedee.be> Message-ID: <19703.63879.411477.150409@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> For all you gamer types... Arnaud also wrote an addon for Warhammer >> Online which uses the core SpamBayes algorithm, ported to Ruby, I >> believe: >> >> http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4792993 Amedee> I should get my hands wet and port this for Lord Of The Rings Amedee> Online. I believe they use Lua. Not to get too far afield, but how are online games spammed? Skip From amedee at vangasse.eu Fri Dec 3 14:23:36 2010 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 14:23:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes.org table updated, SpamBayes for Warhammer Online... In-Reply-To: <19703.63879.411477.150409@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <000001cb921b$5ba91110$12fb3330$@ptd.net> <19703.45076.303389.547153@montanaro.dyndns.org> <19703.47639.917387.939038@montanaro.dyndns.org> <59618ac896b561a8eeba286c36830b36.squirrel@amedee.be> <19703.63879.411477.150409@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <0b93b981ce80956c7f8a1f4deb4605a2.squirrel@amedee.be> On Thu, December 2, 2010 20:54, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > >> For all you gamer types... Arnaud also wrote an addon for > Warhammer > >> Online which uses the core SpamBayes algorithm, ported to Ruby, I > >> believe: > >> > >> http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4792993 > > Amedee> I should get my hands wet and port this for Lord Of The Rings > Amedee> Online. I believe they use Lua. > > Not to get too far afield, but how are online games spammed? It's the in-game chat that gets spammed. MMORPG's suffer the most, because communication is required to be succesful in that type of games. From spmbn at hotmail.com Thu Dec 9 22:24:01 2010 From: spmbn at hotmail.com (Luke Paris) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 21:24:01 +0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Secure access still not working Message-ID: for many moons now I've been hoping for secure access to be implemented in SpamBayes. No other spam filter comes close (although, to tell you the truth, very little spam currently gets past my ISP, although I fear quite a lot of non-spam suffers a spammie fate). 1.1a4 promised SSL access but failed to deliver, and crashed a lot, and now trying 1.1a6, and seems to be managing to connect to pop.live.com on port 995, but behaviour erratic, and never gets further than downloading 1/3 of the message list, let alone any messages. Is SpamBayes still being actively developed, or have the developers gone on to bigger, more lucrative things? Not that they don't deserve a lucrative future, but unfortunately that lucre won't come from me, as i"m now getting too little spam to be worth it. Is there any hope of a functioning SSL version? Using it on WinXP pro with OE6. Thanks From arn at karolus.net Sat Dec 11 16:59:14 2010 From: arn at karolus.net (Mary-Jo Arn) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:59:14 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes not working Message-ID: How do I disable or uninstall spambayes. I don't know how I got it and I don't want it, but it keeps popping up to tell me that it can't work properly. Thanks. M-Jo From skip at pobox.com Sat Dec 11 23:35:23 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 16:35:23 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19715.64683.590333.4787@montanaro.dyndns.org> Mary-Jo> How do I disable or uninstall spambayes. I don't know how I got Mary-Jo> it and I don't want it, but it keeps popping up to tell me that Mary-Jo> it can't work properly. Thanks. M-Jo Mary-Jo, I'm not a Windows user, but I think you should be able to unintall SpamBayes the same way you'd uninstall most other software. You also might want to ask around your family or office (wherever the computer is). SpamBayes wouldn't have come with the computer, nor would it have been installed by accident. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From kbanas at gmail.com Sun Dec 12 01:30:50 2010 From: kbanas at gmail.com (Kyle Banas) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:30:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes not working In-Reply-To: <19715.64683.590333.4787@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <19715.64683.590333.4787@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: To uninstall SpamBayes you will need to travel east, into the dark heart of the Forlorn Wood - there you will find the tree elves - ancient and wise. Seek out their leader, and lay your burdens upon him - he has the knowledge you seek. On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:35 PM, wrote: > > ? ?Mary-Jo> How do I disable or uninstall spambayes. I don't know how I got > ? ?Mary-Jo> it and I don't want it, but it keeps popping up to tell me that > ? ?Mary-Jo> it can't work properly. Thanks. M-Jo > > Mary-Jo, > > I'm not a Windows user, but I think you should be able to unintall SpamBayes > the same way you'd uninstall most other software. ?You also might want to > ask around your family or office (wherever the computer is). ?SpamBayes > wouldn't have come with the computer, nor would it have been installed by > accident. > > -- > Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From andre.ebrard at free.fr Sun Dec 12 04:07:56 2010 From: andre.ebrard at free.fr (andre.ebrard) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 04:07:56 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] spam bayes 1.1a6 Message-ID: <002101cb99a9$c698b350$53ca19f0$@ebrard@free.fr> Bonsoir. Quand j?installe spam bayes 1.1a6 le plugin ne s?installe pas et la barre des taches de spam bayes n?apparait pas(voir les images ci-joint). Mon syst?me : Windows 7 professionnel Outlook 2007 sp2 mso Spambayes 1.1a6. Une solution? J?ai r?ussi a installer spam bayes 1.04 mais je pr?f?rerais installer la nouvelle version Merci de votre r?ponse Good night. When I install the plug-in spam ayes 1.1a6 do not become established and blocks her of stains of spam ayes apparait no (see pictures enclosed). My system: windows 7 professional Outlook on 2007 sp2 mso Spambayes 1.1a6. A solution? I succeeded has instal spambayes 1.04 but I would prefer installing new version Thanks for your answer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That was done by other people whose attention is now directed elsewhere. If you're using Windows Live (aka Hotmail?) I assume you must be using the POP3 proxy, is that right? How did you download and install SpamBayes, from source or using the Windows installer? I don't have WIndows, but I suspect I could sign up for Windows Live and take a look. > Is SpamBayes still being actively developed, or have the developers gone on > to bigger, more lucrative things? Not that they don't deserve a lucrative > future, but unfortunately that lucre won't come from me, as i"m now getting > too little spam to be worth it. Most developers have moved on. I am trying to provide a modicum of support but don't have time to do any real development these days. To make matters worse for you I've never done anything with the Windows code or the SSL code. > Is there any hope of a functioning SSL version? I wouldn't hold my breath. Do you have any log file output which might help pinpoint the problem? An alternative would be to use something else to do the SSL part, say fetchmail, available for Windows in the Unixmail package: http://unixmail-w32.sourceforge.net/ I just signed up for Windows Live. For the life of me I can't figure out where it teaches me about downloading email via POP. Do you have a pointer? Skip From spmbn at hotmail.com Sun Dec 12 18:19:33 2010 From: spmbn at hotmail.com (Luke Paris) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:19:33 +0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Secure access still not working References: Message-ID: I have had problems with all secure access, including gmail, or rebranded gmail, such as my ISP's offering. But they're both working at present, and it's hotmail that has still never worked (and yes, I am using pop access). POP server for windows live is pop3.live.com and port is 995. It works with spamihilator, but that's just not as good a filter. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Montanaro" To: "Luke Paris" Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Secure access still not working On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Luke Paris wrote: > for many moons now I've been hoping for secure access to be implemented in > SpamBayes. No other spam filter comes close (although, to tell you the > truth, very little spam currently gets past my ISP, although I fear quite > a > lot of non-spam suffers a spammie fate). 1.1a4 promised SSL access but > failed to deliver, and crashed a lot, and now trying 1.1a6, and seems to > be > managing to connect to pop.live.com on port 995, but behaviour erratic, > and > never gets further than downloading 1/3 of the message list, let alone any > messages. I'm not familiar with the work done to to support SSL. That was done by other people whose attention is now directed elsewhere. If you're using Windows Live (aka Hotmail?) I assume you must be using the POP3 proxy, is that right? How did you download and install SpamBayes, from source or using the Windows installer? I don't have WIndows, but I suspect I could sign up for Windows Live and take a look. > Is SpamBayes still being actively developed, or have the developers gone > on > to bigger, more lucrative things? Not that they don't deserve a lucrative > future, but unfortunately that lucre won't come from me, as i"m now > getting > too little spam to be worth it. Most developers have moved on. I am trying to provide a modicum of support but don't have time to do any real development these days. To make matters worse for you I've never done anything with the Windows code or the SSL code. > Is there any hope of a functioning SSL version? I wouldn't hold my breath. Do you have any log file output which might help pinpoint the problem? An alternative would be to use something else to do the SSL part, say fetchmail, available for Windows in the Unixmail package: http://unixmail-w32.sourceforge.net/ I just signed up for Windows Live. For the life of me I can't figure out where it teaches me about downloading email via POP. Do you have a pointer? Skip From amedee at vangasse.eu Sun Dec 12 18:34:35 2010 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 18:34:35 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Secure access still not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D0507AB.7080907@vangasse.eu> Op 12-12-10 15:46, Skip Montanaro schreef: > I'm not familiar with the work done to to support SSL. That was done by > other people whose attention is now directed elsewhere. > I don't have WIndows, but I suspect I could sign up for Windows Live and > take a look. > Most developers have moved on. I am trying to provide a modicum of support > but don't have time to do any real development these days. To make matters > worse for you I've never done anything with the Windows code or the SSL > code. Skip, How about facing the facts? If I read the above then I can only come to one conclusion: Spambayes is not supported on Windows. I don't mean that as a bad thing. If there are any Windows users reading this and interested in replying: what's your opinion? Should Windows support be dropped, as long as there is no developer available who is familiar with Windows? -- Amedee From skip at pobox.com Sun Dec 12 23:04:36 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:04:36 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Secure access still not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19717.18164.726131.172579@montanaro.dyndns.org> Luke> I have had problems with all secure access, including gmail, or Luke> rebranded gmail, such as my ISP's offering. But they're both Luke> working at present, and it's hotmail that has still never worked Luke> (and yes, I am using pop access). Luke> POP server for windows live is pop3.live.com and port is 995. One of the denizens of the fetchmail-users mailing list suggested stunnel. It can do the secure port 995 connection and listen on local port 110. Your SpamBayes setup can thus operate 100% locally. Here are a couple links: http://www.stunnel.org/ http://www.peterbe.com/plog/blogitem-20031117-1600 This is likely to be much more reliable. Let us know how it works for you. Skip From skip at pobox.com Sun Dec 12 23:07:27 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:07:27 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Secure access still not working In-Reply-To: <4D0507AB.7080907@vangasse.eu> References: <4D0507AB.7080907@vangasse.eu> Message-ID: <19717.18335.765414.580715@montanaro.dyndns.org> Amedee> How about facing the facts? If I read the above then I can only Amedee> come to one conclusion: Spambayes is not supported on Windows. Amedee> I don't mean that as a bad thing. I think for the bulk of the users on Windows SpamBayes actually works just fine. I realize the presence of Windows developers is scant, but it's not like the tool doesn't work. Luke's setup represents a small fraction of Windows users. Based on the stunnel option, if it works for Luke, I would prefer to recommend that for users who want to use the POP3 proxy over SSL, Windows or Unix. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From martin.bc at talktalk.net Mon Dec 20 22:16:27 2010 From: martin.bc at talktalk.net (martin.bc at talktalk.net) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:16:27 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <6EAC7F9E4E3A4C9FABABB2D5344AAB80@laptop> Hello, I have used Spambayes very successfully on Outlook 2003 / WinPX, however moving to a new laptop with Win7 and Outlook 2003 Spambayes loads with a message ' Error initializing SpamBayes addin please restart Outlook. The Toolbar is frozen and no filtering occurs. I have looked on your FAQ's but no obvious resolution. Can you help me?? Many thanks Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philipx at earthlink.net Mon Dec 27 16:33:12 2010 From: philipx at earthlink.net (Philip Xanthopoulos) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:33:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration Problems Message-ID: <4D18B1B8.8040508@earthlink.net> I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 6.1.7600.2 (). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. The problem I am having is that I had a hard drive failure. My wife passed away recently and I am on an extended vacation in Pennsylvania and I live across the country in California. My MS Office disks are there. I am now using Thunderbird for my email client. I have several email addresses. This is a new Toshiba Satellite with *Windows 7 and is a 64 bit system with a 500gbt hard drive and two external hard drives (a 1tbt and a 3 tbt)*. The problem: how do I configure Spambays for use with Thunderbird? I am not a novice but far from a computer guru. Please be as specific as possible. I have been using Spambays successfully for years and love it! Thank you for your help. Phil -- philipx at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philipx at earthlink.net Mon Dec 27 16:43:40 2010 From: philipx at earthlink.net (Philip Xanthopoulos) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:43:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration follow -up Message-ID: <4D18B42C.9010902@earthlink.net> I forgot to add the following error message I receive when I try to load Thunderbays: ThunderBayes 1.0.1 could not be installed because it is not compatible with Thunderbird 3.1.7. Thank you again! Phil - philipx at earthlink.net From skip at pobox.com Mon Dec 27 17:42:46 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:42:46 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration follow -up In-Reply-To: <4D18B42C.9010902@earthlink.net> References: <4D18B42C.9010902@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <19736.49670.511808.900386@montanaro.dyndns.org> Phil> I forgot to add the following error message I receive when I try Phil> to load Thunderbays: Phil> ThunderBayes 1.0.1 could not be installed because it is not Phil> compatible with Thunderbird 3.1.7. Phil, Try ThunderBayes++: http://heapoverflow.com/f0rums/project.php?projectid=21 It is supposed to work with T-Bird 3. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/