From mauricemoyal at gmail.com Tue Jun 2 09:43:47 2009 From: mauricemoyal at gmail.com (Maurice Moyal) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:43:47 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Assistance Message-ID: Hello, What I have to indicate inside these two place ? Thanks for your help Maurice -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 175 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Spam Clues.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 154276 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jsp at PKC.com Tue Jun 2 15:54:09 2009 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:54:09 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Assistance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F907953445@PKCVT01.pkc.com> If you have an Outlook folder that you know contains only messages that are not spam, use the first Browse... button to select it. Likewise, if you have any folders that you know contain ONLY spam, use the second Browse... button to select it. If you don't have such folders, I think you can leave those fields empty (as long as you don't click the Start Training button). The top part of the tab is for people who want to train SpamBayes based on messages that they've already categorized. The bottom part is for training it message-by-message over a period of time. This incremental training method is easy and effective for many people, so if you don't already have collections of ham and spam to train on, don't worry about it. You should get good results pretty quickly - usually by the time you've trained SpamBayes with a couple of dozen messages. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Maurice Moyal Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:44 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Assistance Hello, What I have to indicate inside these two place ? Thanks for your help Maurice -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 181 bytes Desc: image003.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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SpamBayes is an excelent program. If I can help I any way to make it better, for instance, translanting it to european portuguese, count on me, despite my available time is not very much. But if you think I can be helpful on that, please let me know, replying to me. I'm doing the same thing with/to Glary Utilities. There are some slight diferences from the brasilian portuguese to the european portuguese, mostly in the accentuation. Best regards from Portugal P Proteja o Ambiente! N?o imprima este e-mail se n?o for absolutamente necess?rio. Protect our Environment! Don't print this e-mail unless absolutely necessary. Cordiais Cumprimentos Best regards Eduardo Nuno Rodrigues eduardo.nuno at hotmail.com ________________________________ De: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Enviada: ter?a-feira, 2 de Junho de 2009 13:38 Para: Nuno Assunto: RE: [Spambayes] "Show spam clues for current message" You don't need to send the message anywhere. It's just a convenient way to display the spam clues. When you're done reviewing them, you can just close the message. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Nuno Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:42 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] "Show spam clues for current message" Importance: High Hi Greetings from Portugal I started to use SpamBayes and i'm enjoying it very much, but I have a doubt: when I open the dropdown box of SpamBayes and choose Show spam clues for the current message, it opens a new message with all of the information contained in the classified spam message but I don't konw where to send it. Here goes an image exemplifying what I'm talking about. Thanks in advance for your answer. Best regards P Proteja o Ambiente! N?o imprima este e-mail se n?o for absolutamente necess?rio. Cordiais Cumprimentos Eduardo Nuno Rodrigues eduardo.nuno at hotmail.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.50/2150 - Release Date: 06/02/09 06:47:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From denis_bolton at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jun 3 13:11:27 2009 From: denis_bolton at tiscali.co.uk (Denis Bolton) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:11:27 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Losing Spambayes on Upgrading to Internet Explorer 6 Message-ID: <2C749AFCE6234A62A7560852A27EA534@Denis> Dear Spambayes Since upgrading to Internet Explorer 6 I have had to reset all my settings to receive mail on Outlook Express. Spambayes no longer works. Please tell me what I have to do to reset Spambayes. Perhaps the message is not to upgrade!!! Thanks Denis Bolton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dwalker-wk at zianet.com Thu Jun 4 17:37:36 2009 From: dwalker-wk at zianet.com (David Walker) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:37:36 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Is the Spambayes Project still alive? Message-ID: <000601c9e52a$6364b020$2a2e1060$@com> I have been using Spambayes 1.0.4 for a while on Windows XP, Outlook 2007. I realize now that for several months, it has not been automatically moving any spam from the Inbox to the Junk-E-Mail folder. (The spam statistics are 100% for some messages that are left in the Inbox.) I know this is a SourceForge project, but everything seems to have stalled after 1.14a was in alpha, with no Windows installer. The older links to find 1.1a4 (Mike Hammond, etc.) don't work. The links at Sourceforge to download the various versions, gives me a message saying "could not create group object". Weird. Any info would be appreciated. David Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsp at PKC.com Thu Jun 4 18:23:54 2009 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:23:54 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Is the Spambayes Project still alive? In-Reply-To: <000601c9e52a$6364b020$2a2e1060$@com> References: <000601c9e52a$6364b020$2a2e1060$@com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90798E8B8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> While there hasn't been much activity since 1.1a4 was released (other than an OCR experiment), I don't have any problem downloading SpamBayes for Windows, including 1.1.a4 from either http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ or http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702&package_id=5 8141&release_id=518556. (Well, other than the fact that my firewall blocks executables.) You might try again; perhaps the SourceForge problem has been fixed. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of David Walker Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:38 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Is the Spambayes Project still alive? I have been using Spambayes 1.0.4 for a while on Windows XP, Outlook 2007. I realize now that for several months, it has not been automatically moving any spam from the Inbox to the Junk-E-Mail folder. (The spam statistics are 100% for some messages that are left in the Inbox.) I know this is a SourceForge project, but everything seems to have stalled after 1.14a was in alpha, with no Windows installer. The older links to find 1.1a4 (Mike Hammond, etc.) don't work. The links at Sourceforge to download the various versions, gives me a message saying "could not create group object". Weird. Any info would be appreciated. David Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dwalker-wk at zianet.com Thu Jun 4 18:46:00 2009 From: dwalker-wk at zianet.com (David Walker) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:46:00 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Is the Spambayes Project still alive? In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90798E8B8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <000601c9e52a$6364b020$2a2e1060$@com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90798E8B8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <000e01c9e533$f1ddaf60$d5990e20$@com> Thanks for the info. Yes, the site is available again. (I couldn't get to Sourceforge at all for about half an hour.) The weird error for all pages with group_id=61702 seems to have been fixed. I notice that there are bug reports similar to mine, where Outlook 2007 users find that messages in the Inbox don't get moved by SpamBayes. I will uninstall and reinstall SpamBayes and see if that fixes the problem. It's great when it actually does something. So, 1.1a4 has been in alpha for a few years.. I should look at the code and see if I can figure anything out. Thanks again. David Walker From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:24 AM To: David Walker; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Is the Spambayes Project still alive? While there hasn't been much activity since 1.1a4 was released (other than an OCR experiment), I don't have any problem downloading SpamBayes for Windows, including 1.1.a4 from either http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ or http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 &package_id=58141&release_id=518556. (Well, other than the fact that my firewall blocks executables.) You might try again; perhaps the SourceForge problem has been fixed. _____ From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of David Walker Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:38 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Is the Spambayes Project still alive? I have been using Spambayes 1.0.4 for a while on Windows XP, Outlook 2007. I realize now that for several months, it has not been automatically moving any spam from the Inbox to the Junk-E-Mail folder. (The spam statistics are 100% for some messages that are left in the Inbox.) I know this is a SourceForge project, but everything seems to have stalled after 1.14a was in alpha, with no Windows installer. The older links to find 1.1a4 (Mike Hammond, etc.) don't work. The links at Sourceforge to download the various versions, gives me a message saying "could not create group object". Weird. Any info would be appreciated. David Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SGrove at q.com Mon Jun 8 19:20:06 2009 From: SGrove at q.com (SGrove) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:20:06 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] what about Outlook 2007 Message-ID: Do you have a version that works with Outlook 2007? Any Info would be appreciated. Thanks, Stephen Grove 29510 318th Ave SE Ravensdale, WA 98051 SGrove at q.com 425 417-1976 cell # 360 886-0811 home # -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amedee at vangasse.eu Tue Jun 9 00:29:51 2009 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 00:29:51 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] what about Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, June 8, 2009 19:20, SGrove wrote: > Do you have a version that works with Outlook 2007? According to this, there are some people that use it with Outlook 2007: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22outlook+2007%22+%2Bspambayes+%2Bsite%3Amail.python.org I can't help you, I don't use Outlook or Windows. -- Amedee From denis_bolton at tiscali.co.uk Tue Jun 9 12:15:05 2009 From: denis_bolton at tiscali.co.uk (Denis Bolton) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:15:05 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Folder problem Message-ID: Dear Spambayes I recently uograded Internet Explorer which seems to have disturbed other settings including Spambayes. Prior to this Spambayes was working perfectly. Now with exactly the same settings everything works with the sole exception that the sure and unsure messages do not go to the Junk Email folder as set up in the message rules. I use Mozilla Firefox as my default browser which does show the review panel for training exactly as before. Thanks Denis Bolton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From listmail at athenet.net Wed Jun 10 00:05:38 2009 From: listmail at athenet.net (Tom) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:05:38 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] what about Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20090609165822.0c9f09a8@localhost> > >Do you have a version that works with Outlook 2007? > >Any Info would be appreciated. I use Eudora Pro version 5.1, which is CERTAINLY not supported by Spambayes with toolbars and fancy in-client stuff. But I've been using Spambayes successfully for years by using the POP3 proxy. Just pour it on and it works. It's just a little harder to configure. Basically, you use a web browser to configure Spambayes to talk to your ISP's mail server. If you can set your mail client to do it, you can make Spambayes do it. Then you set up your mail client to talk to SPAMBAYES, not to your ISP. Spambayes intermediates and talks to the mail server on your behalf, marking suspected spam with a yes/no/maybe tag. You then set up a rule in outlook to dump all mail tagged as uncertain into a folder for your review. After you gain some confidence, you tell it to dump mail marked SPAM into the trash. You train it using a web browser pointed to http://localhost:8880/review (usually that's the address). ----- 334. [Government] The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well as the poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. --Anatole France --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB: http://www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531 From becky at ussoy.com Thu Jun 11 20:44:40 2009 From: becky at ussoy.com (Becky Walker--US Soy) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:44:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook issue Message-ID: <003c01c9eac4$ada2ff80$08e8fe80$@com> I dowloaded SpamBayes on my Vista computer. While it is filtering spam ok, now my rules and alerts don't work. Is there any way to resolve this or do I need to uninstall SpamBayes? I am using Outlook 2007. Thank you. Becky Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsp at PKC.com Fri Jun 12 14:34:46 2009 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:34:46 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook issue In-Reply-To: <003c01c9eac4$ada2ff80$08e8fe80$@com> References: <003c01c9eac4$ada2ff80$08e8fe80$@com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90798F2A0@PKCVT01.pkc.com> There's a FAQ that might (or might not) be related: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/apps/outlook/bugs.html#various-issues-w ith-outlook-builtin-rules. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Becky Walker--US Soy Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:45 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook issue I dowloaded SpamBayes on my Vista computer. While it is filtering spam ok, now my rules and alerts don't work. Is there any way to resolve this or do I need to uninstall SpamBayes? I am using Outlook 2007. Thank you. Becky Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philipx at earthlink.net Fri Jun 12 20:18:42 2009 From: philipx at earthlink.net (Phil Earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:18:42 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Question Message-ID: I cannot find an answer to the following question: Nothing ever goes into the "Junk Suspects" folder. It seems everything goes into the "junk e-mail" folder. Should I remove and reinstall Spambayes? It really works quite well except for this idiosyncrasy. Thank you for making it available. Windows VISTA Ultimate, Microsoft Office 2003 (Outlook 2003), Lenovo T61 Thinkpad, Intel Dual Core/CePro T9300, 2 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 667 MHz, 200 GB HD, Intel GMA X3100 GM 965, three external hard drives (1TB Seagate, 500GB Iomega, 160GB Western Digital) Thank you in advance! Phil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 1586 bytes Desc: not available URL: From carltr6 at embarqmail.com Fri Jun 12 22:28:05 2009 From: carltr6 at embarqmail.com (Carl TR6) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:28:05 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <009d01c9eb9c$4b4c7fe0$7001a8c0@carlsw> Phil, It may be that the "score" of the junk emails exceeds the threshold for the suspects folder. This is a result of the training; those emails are classed as junk or spam by Spambayes. Open the Spambayes manager and click on the Filtering tab. There you will see (and you can set) the scores for suspect and junk email. Carl Swofford -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+carltr6=embarqmail.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+carltr6=embarqmail.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Phil Earthlink.net Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 14:19 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Question I cannot find an answer to the following question: Nothing ever goes into the "Junk Suspects" folder. It seems everything goes into the "junk e-mail" folder. Should I remove and reinstall Spambayes? It really works quite well except for this idiosyncrasy. Thank you for making it available. Windows VISTA Ultimate, Microsoft Office 2003 (Outlook 2003), Lenovo T61 Thinkpad, Intel Dual Core/CePro T9300, 2 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 667 MHz, 200 GB HD, Intel GMA X3100 GM 965, three external hard drives (1TB Seagate, 500GB Iomega, 160GB Western Digital) Thank you in advance! Phil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.1.1 - 10.100.145). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ From TWynnell at vertical.com Mon Jun 15 19:43:34 2009 From: TWynnell at vertical.com (Taed Wynnell) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:43:34 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.1a4 crashes when first starting up after reinstalling... Message-ID: I just got a new machine running Windows XP SP 3 and Outlook 2003. Both are completely updated. I first installed SpamBayes 1.0.4, and that went fine, but I ran into an old bug, so I decided to install 1.1a4 (which I should have just done from the start). When Outlook restarts, the SpamBayes Outlook COM object is disabled, and just re-enabling it does not work. So, I have to Add it back in. Once I do that, it then crashes Outlook with the following. I can't get any more crash information since the "more information" can't be cut-and-pasted and I can't find any info stored in a file. AppName: outlook.exe AppVer: 11.0.8217.0 AppStamp:480f95d9 ModName: unknown ModVer: 0.0.0.0 ModStamp:00000000 fDebug: 0 Offset: 119cf550 The SPAMBAYES1.LOG contains only: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. I have tried a number of times to uninstall it (and even hunted down and deleted all references to "SpamBayes" in filenames and the Registry), but I still get the same crash. I feel that I'm not completely cleaning up since the SpamBayes Outlook COM object is always disabled after I uninstall and then reinstall it. Does anyone have any assistance to offer? I've tried everything that I can think of. (By the way, I have been using SpamBayes for about 5 years on my old machine and I love it. I had even saved my 50,000 or so spam messages for the inevitable retraining.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem is, i'm behind of one proxy server, so for the spambayes access to the pop3 server i need first to redirect the connection to the server of the proxy. how i can do that? thank you, -- Artur Machado From dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com Tue Jun 16 15:11:12 2009 From: dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com (Dale Schroeder) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:11:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Proxy in SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <3a7318310906151920r78a7159at16ccddec8d0ab444@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a7318310906151920r78a7159at16ccddec8d0ab444@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A3799F0.3060106@BriannasSaladDressing.com> Artur, Have you seen this FAQ? http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#i-already-have-a-pop3-proxy-so-how-can-i-use-sb-server How you accomplish this depends upon your particular setup. In my case, I direct the mail client to AVG's proxy server (127.0.0.1:10110), then redirect AVG to SpamBayes (host:8110 [installed on a different host]). Your situation is probably different, so the FAQ is quite correct in saying that trial and error may be necessary. Dale artur machado wrote: > Hi, > > i'm using one release of spambayes who come in Thunderbayes (but i > don't know the version of spambayes) for windows xp and thunderbird. > The problem is, i'm behind of one proxy server, so for the spambayes > access to the pop3 server i need first to redirect the connection to > the server of the proxy. how i can do that? > > thank you, > From ej.spambayes at indicium.org Wed Jun 17 05:56:28 2009 From: ej.spambayes at indicium.org (Eric Johnson) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:56:28 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] What does this mean? Message-ID: <4A38696C.6080502@indicium.org> Training... 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 476, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/spambayes/ProxyUI.py", line 302, in onReview self.flush() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 712, in flush return self._handler.flush() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 221, in flush while (self.producer_fifo or self.ac_out_buffer) and not self._closed: File "/usr/lib/python2.6/asyncore.py", line 391, in __getattr__ return getattr(self.socket, attr) AttributeError: '_socketobject' object has no attribute 'ac_out_buffer' This is Spambayes 1.1a4 installed on a fresh install of Ubuntu 9.04. Could someone explain to me what I broke? Thanks, Eric From skip at pobox.com Wed Jun 17 13:50:46 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:50:46 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] What does this mean? In-Reply-To: <4A38696C.6080502@indicium.org> References: <4A38696C.6080502@indicium.org> Message-ID: <19000.55446.705124.770738@montanaro.dyndns.org> Eric> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/asyncore.py", line 391, in __getattr__ Eric> return getattr(self.socket, attr) Eric> AttributeError: '_socketobject' object has no attribute Eric> 'ac_out_buffer' Eric> This is Spambayes 1.1a4 installed on a fresh install of Ubuntu Eric> 9.04. Eric> Could someone explain to me what I broke? You didn't break anything. The ground under your feet shifted. In Python 2.6 someone reworked the asyncore and asynchat modules in backwards-incompatible ways. One of the things that was done was to remove that ac_out_buffer attribute. Unfortunately, it looks like Dibbler.py uses it. This whole episode caused quite a stir on python-dev when it came to light. (Not enough, apparently, to restore the code in 2.7 though.) I'm not certain of the correct fix, not being very familiar with the changes in Python 2.6 or with the Dibbler module. Here are a couple things you might try: * Install Python 2.5 on your system and use that instead of Python 2.6. * Modify your copy of Dibbler.py to remove the (sole) reference to self.ac_out_buffer. Change: while (self.producer_fifo or self.ac_out_buffer) and not self._closed: to acob = (hasattr(self, "ac_out_buffer") and self.ac_out_buffer or True) while (self.producer_fifo or acob) and not self._closed: * Staring at the thread on python-dev suggests that this might work as well: while self.writable() and not self._closed: I'm pretty sure switching to Python 2.5 will work, though that may cause your system some consternation if you have other packages which require 2.6 and you can't install both of them at the same time (I suspect that will be ok). I'm a bit less sure about the second and third changes, but I think they should work. Clearly the third is clearer and likely more correct as well. Full details on the change from python-dev: http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3c48EE2C77.1050809%40palladion.com%3e Richie, care to chime in? -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ when i wake up with a heart rate below 40, i head right for the espresso machine. -- chaos @ forums.usms.org From enewger at gmx.de Wed Jun 17 22:53:11 2009 From: enewger at gmx.de (Eckhardt Newger) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:53:11 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving from Outlook to Thunderbird Message-ID: <001201c9ef8d$a066ab00$e1340100$@de> Hi, I'm on the way to move from Outlook 2007 to Thunderbird. Fortunately, there is an add-in called Thunderbayes which provides SpamBayes functionality under TB. Is there a way to use/migrate the SpamBayes database I've built up over so many years so I don't have to start from scratch again? Best regards E. Newger __________ Hinweis von ESET NOD32 Antivirus, Signaturdatenbank-Version 4164 (20090617) __________ E-Mail wurde gepruft mit ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Wed Jun 17 23:27:01 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:27:01 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving from Outlook to Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <001201c9ef8d$a066ab00$e1340100$@de> References: <001201c9ef8d$a066ab00$e1340100$@de> Message-ID: <19001.24485.922125.218629@montanaro.dyndns.org> Eckhardt> I'm on the way to move from Outlook 2007 to Eckhardt> Thunderbird. Fortunately, there is an add-in called Eckhardt> Thunderbayes which provides SpamBayes functionality under TB. Eckhardt> Is there a way to use/migrate the SpamBayes database I've Eckhardt> built up over so many years so I don't have to start from Eckhardt> scratch again? No there's not. (Well, a SpamBayes developer could burn some midnight oil and probably convert it, but there's nothing canned to do it.) In any case, you probably don't need to migrate your database. Start from scratch. After training a few hams and a few spams the tool should do a pretty good job scoring your incoming mail. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ when i wake up with a heart rate below 40, i head right for the espresso machine. -- chaos @ forums.usms.org From richie at entrian.com Thu Jun 18 00:00:18 2009 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:00:18 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] What does this mean? In-Reply-To: <19000.55446.705124.770738@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <4A38696C.6080502@indicium.org> <19000.55446.705124.770738@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <8a6ba1da0906171500p7289a4d3u9968f6641388b265@mail.gmail.com> [Skip] > Richie, care to chime in? Eric, Skip's advice to use Python 2.5 is your best bet. There's no reason you can't install it alongside other versions, and I believe there's an option in the installer to not change your file associations etc. (and if there isn't, you can always reinstall the later version afterwards). Skip, I'll have a look at your proposed fixes this week, but I don't have time tonight - it's bed time here. 8-) -- Richie Hindle richie at entrian.com From ej.spambayes at indicium.org Thu Jun 18 00:46:18 2009 From: ej.spambayes at indicium.org (Eric Johnson) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:46:18 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] What does this mean? In-Reply-To: <8a6ba1da0906171500p7289a4d3u9968f6641388b265@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A38696C.6080502@indicium.org> <19000.55446.705124.770738@montanaro.dyndns.org> <8a6ba1da0906171500p7289a4d3u9968f6641388b265@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A39723A.3030603@indicium.org> On 09-06-17 04:00 PM, Richie Hindle wrote: > [Skip] >> Richie, care to chime in? > > Eric, Skip's advice to use Python 2.5 is your best bet. There's no > reason you can't install it alongside other versions, and I believe > there's an option in the installer to not change your file > associations etc. (and if there isn't, you can always reinstall the > later version afterwards). > > Skip, I'll have a look at your proposed fixes this week, but I don't > have time tonight - it's bed time here. 8-) > I checked Synaptic to what in regards to Python was installed. It says that Python 2.5 and 2.6 are installed. Is it possible to specify in the command line which version of Python to use? Thanks, Eric From TWynnell at vertical.com Thu Jun 18 00:58:51 2009 From: TWynnell at vertical.com (Taed Wynnell) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:58:51 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.1a4 crashes when first starting up after reinstalling... Message-ID: I still haven't been able to get any farther on this, despite a few more attempts. Is there some way to at least get a dump file so that I would look at the crash in WinDbg and hopefully find an obvious problem? ________________________________ From: Taed Wynnell Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:44 AM To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: SpamBayes 1.1a4 crashes when first starting up after reinstalling... I just got a new machine running Windows XP SP 3 and Outlook 2003. Both are completely updated. I first installed SpamBayes 1.0.4, and that went fine, but I ran into an old bug, so I decided to install 1.1a4 (which I should have just done from the start). When Outlook restarts, the SpamBayes Outlook COM object is disabled, and just re-enabling it does not work. So, I have to Add it back in. Once I do that, it then crashes Outlook with the following. I can't get any more crash information since the "more information" can't be cut-and-pasted and I can't find any info stored in a file. AppName: outlook.exe AppVer: 11.0.8217.0 AppStamp:480f95d9 ModName: unknown ModVer: 0.0.0.0 ModStamp:00000000 fDebug: 0 Offset: 119cf550 The SPAMBAYES1.LOG contains only: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. I have tried a number of times to uninstall it (and even hunted down and deleted all references to "SpamBayes" in filenames and the Registry), but I still get the same crash. I feel that I'm not completely cleaning up since the SpamBayes Outlook COM object is always disabled after I uninstall and then reinstall it. Does anyone have any assistance to offer? I've tried everything that I can think of. (By the way, I have been using SpamBayes for about 5 years on my old machine and I love it. I had even saved my 50,000 or so spam messages for the inevitable retraining.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Thu Jun 18 03:06:06 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:06:06 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] What does this mean? In-Reply-To: <4A39723A.3030603@indicium.org> References: <4A38696C.6080502@indicium.org> <19000.55446.705124.770738@montanaro.dyndns.org> <8a6ba1da0906171500p7289a4d3u9968f6641388b265@mail.gmail.com> <4A39723A.3030603@indicium.org> Message-ID: <19001.37630.441641.399207@montanaro.dyndns.org> Eric> I checked Synaptic to what in regards to Python was installed. It Eric> says that Python 2.5 and 2.6 are installed. Eric> Is it possible to specify in the command line which version of Eric> Python to use? I sort of assume you installed SpamBayes something like this: python setup.py install You can refrence Python 2.5 directly: python2.5 setup.py install SpamBayes will then be run using Python 2.5. If you install SpamBayes using Synaptics, I don't know how to tell it to use Python 2.5. Skip From ej.spambayes at indicium.org Thu Jun 18 03:54:07 2009 From: ej.spambayes at indicium.org (Eric Johnson) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:54:07 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] What does this mean? In-Reply-To: <19001.37630.441641.399207@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <4A38696C.6080502@indicium.org> <19000.55446.705124.770738@montanaro.dyndns.org> <8a6ba1da0906171500p7289a4d3u9968f6641388b265@mail.gmail.com> <4A39723A.3030603@indicium.org> <19001.37630.441641.399207@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4A399E3F.2040606@indicium.org> On 09-06-17 07:06 PM, skip at pobox.com wrote: > Eric> I checked Synaptic to what in regards to Python was installed. It > Eric> says that Python 2.5 and 2.6 are installed. > > Eric> Is it possible to specify in the command line which version of > Eric> Python to use? > > I sort of assume you installed SpamBayes something like this: > > python setup.py install > > You can refrence Python 2.5 directly: > > python2.5 setup.py install > > SpamBayes will then be run using Python 2.5. If you install SpamBayes using > Synaptics, I don't know how to tell it to use Python 2.5. > > Skip > > . > I tried your suggestion of using "python2.5 setup.py install". I launch the proxy this way, "python2.5 sb_server.py" I am no longer getting an error message when training, but I am now getting this error message when I am using the configuration pages... 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 476, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/UserInterface.py", line 888, in onChangeopts self.reReadOptions() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/ProxyUI.py", line 587, in reReadOptions state = self.state_recreator() File "./spambayes/scripts/sb_server.py", line 1007, in _recreateState prepare() File "./spambayes/scripts/sb_server.py", line 1022, in prepare state.prepare(can_stop) File "./spambayes/scripts/sb_server.py", line 822, in prepare self.createWorkers() File "./spambayes/scripts/sb_server.py", line 889, in createWorkers self.stats = Stats.Stats(options, self.mdb) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/Stats.py", line 60, in __init__ self.from_date = self.messageinfo_db.get_statistics_start_date() AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_statistics_start_date' Is this something different or part of the same problem as before? Thanks for all the suggestions, Eric From skip at pobox.com Thu Jun 18 11:42:50 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:42:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] What does this mean? In-Reply-To: <4A399E3F.2040606@indicium.org> References: <4A38696C.6080502@indicium.org> <19000.55446.705124.770738@montanaro.dyndns.org> <8a6ba1da0906171500p7289a4d3u9968f6641388b265@mail.gmail.com> <4A39723A.3030603@indicium.org> <19001.37630.441641.399207@montanaro.dyndns.org> <4A399E3F.2040606@indicium.org> Message-ID: <19002.3098.305856.221380@montanaro.dyndns.org> Eric> I tried your suggestion of using "python2.5 setup.py install". Eric> I launch the proxy this way, "python2.5 sb_server.py" That works, but you're running SpamBayes from your source repository, not from the installed location. Try running /usr/local/bin/sb_server.py instead, or if /usr/local/bin is in your PATH, simply sb_server.py Eric> I am no longer getting an error message when training, but I am now Eric> getting this error message when I am using the configuration pages... Eric> 500 Server error ... Eric> File "./spambayes/scripts/sb_server.py", line 889, in createWorkers Eric> self.stats = Stats.Stats(options, self.mdb) Eric> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/Stats.py", line 60, Eric> in __init__ Eric> self.from_date = self.messageinfo_db.get_statistics_start_date() Eric> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute Eric> 'get_statistics_start_date' Eric> Is this something different or part of the same problem as before? This is something new. Are you trying to train before you're done configuring the setup? I wouldn't think you'd be creating a Stats object (the beginning of what I quoted) at that point. I'm not terribly familiar with the POP3 proxy (sb_server) anymore, and it will probably be a day or two before I have a chance to take a look at the problem. In the meantime, double-check that you've completely configured the server before trying to do any training. Skip From will_gaby at hotmail.com Thu Jun 18 23:01:12 2009 From: will_gaby at hotmail.com (Will Gaby) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:01:12 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes not working since switching to Outlook Connector Message-ID: Hello. I use Microsoft Outlook to manage my Hotmail account. I recently received a message from Microsoft that told me that if I wanted to continue to use Outlook for my Hotmail account, I needed to download and install "Outlook Connector". I did. Since then, Spambayes no longer automatically processes my messages. I went through the Spambayes configuration again, and this did not help. I am running Windows XP with all updates current. 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Thanks, -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From dave at boostpro.com Fri Jun 19 19:28:07 2009 From: dave at boostpro.com (David Abrahams) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:28:07 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Many different databases Message-ID: I notice a proliferation of choices in SpamBayes of where to store my training data (pickle, ZODB, etc.) Is any one of these markedly better than any other? -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From ej.spambayes at indicium.org Sat Jun 20 04:37:44 2009 From: ej.spambayes at indicium.org (Eric Johnson) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:37:44 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] What does this mean? In-Reply-To: <19002.3098.305856.221380@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <4A38696C.6080502@indicium.org> <19000.55446.705124.770738@montanaro.dyndns.org> <8a6ba1da0906171500p7289a4d3u9968f6641388b265@mail.gmail.com> <4A39723A.3030603@indicium.org> <19001.37630.441641.399207@montanaro.dyndns.org> <4A399E3F.2040606@indicium.org> <19002.3098.305856.221380@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4A3C4B78.2000801@indicium.org> On 09-06-18 03:42 AM, skip at pobox.com wrote: > Eric> I tried your suggestion of using "python2.5 setup.py install". > > Eric> I launch the proxy this way, "python2.5 sb_server.py" > > That works, but you're running SpamBayes from your source repository, not > from the installed location. Try running > > /usr/local/bin/sb_server.py > > instead, or if /usr/local/bin is in your PATH, simply > > sb_server.py > > Eric> I am no longer getting an error message when training, but I am now > Eric> getting this error message when I am using the configuration pages... > > Eric> 500 Server error > ... > Eric> File "./spambayes/scripts/sb_server.py", line 889, in createWorkers > Eric> self.stats = Stats.Stats(options, self.mdb) > > Eric> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/Stats.py", line 60, > Eric> in __init__ > Eric> self.from_date = self.messageinfo_db.get_statistics_start_date() > > Eric> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute > Eric> 'get_statistics_start_date' > > Eric> Is this something different or part of the same problem as before? > > This is something new. Are you trying to train before you're done > configuring the setup? I wouldn't think you'd be creating a Stats object > (the beginning of what I quoted) at that point. > > I'm not terribly familiar with the POP3 proxy (sb_server) anymore, and it > will probably be a day or two before I have a chance to take a look at the > problem. In the meantime, double-check that you've completely configured > the server before trying to do any training. > > Skip > > . > Thanks for letting me know about the proper path to run the server from, I'm still getting used to Linux... What was happening when I was getting that error, was that I was trying to configure the proxy and when I would tell it to save the settings, that error message would show up and then I would have to restart the proxy to be able to do the rest of the configuration. The funny part of the proxy crashing during configuration is that when I restart it and go to check the settings, all the settings I wanted, were in fact saved. Anyway, I do still get the error message... 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 476, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/UserInterface.py", line 888, in onChangeopts self.reReadOptions() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/ProxyUI.py", line 587, in reReadOptions state = self.state_recreator() File "/usr/local/bin/sb_server.py", line 1007, in _recreateState prepare() File "/usr/local/bin/sb_server.py", line 1022, in prepare state.prepare(can_stop) File "/usr/local/bin/sb_server.py", line 822, in prepare self.createWorkers() File "/usr/local/bin/sb_server.py", line 889, in createWorkers self.stats = Stats.Stats(options, self.mdb) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/Stats.py", line 60, in __init__ self.from_date = self.messageinfo_db.get_statistics_start_date() AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_statistics_start_date' ...whenever the save button is pressed on any of the 3 configuration pages. Otherwise the proxy works fine and no problem with the "review" page or when training. I must say that this spam filter is the best one that I have ever come across, I just wish the others could be 25% as good. With training on as few as 12 ham and 12 spam, I am already getting as few as 0.3% unsure. Thanks, Eric From admin at spamcomplaint.net Thu Jun 18 01:58:39 2009 From: admin at spamcomplaint.net (James Calfee) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:58:39 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] fighting spam Message-ID: <4A39832F.8040200@spamcomplaint.net> I see you have a popular project on Sourceforge. I have a similar dis-taste for SPAM (don't we all), so I have made a considerable investment by writing a SPAM complaint program. I was wondering if you know someone, say Mark, that is interested in helping me integrate with Outlook. I'm a big Linux user but I'm willing to use the tools need to build and maintain the add-on so I can reach more users and get more spammers and their drones shut-down. Please have a look, the web site is http://spamcomplaint.net ... thanks, Jimmy From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Sat Jun 20 15:37:51 2009 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:37:51 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] fighting spam In-Reply-To: <4A39832F.8040200@spamcomplaint.net> References: <4A39832F.8040200@spamcomplaint.net> Message-ID: <4A3CE62F.8070505@cubiclesoft.com> James Calfee wrote: > I see you have a popular project on Sourceforge. I have a similar > dis-taste for SPAM (don't we all), so I have made a considerable > investment by writing a SPAM complaint program. > > I was wondering if you know someone, say Mark, that is interested in > helping me integrate with Outlook. I'm a big Linux user but I'm willing > to use the tools need to build and maintain the add-on so I can reach > more users and get more spammers and their drones shut-down. > > Please have a look, the web site is http://spamcomplaint.net ... > > thanks, > Jimmy Soooo....your tool basically makes the spam problem worse. Can I complain about your tool? -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1 Get on task. Stay on task. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/ From amedee at vangasse.eu Sat Jun 20 15:57:55 2009 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:57:55 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] fighting spam In-Reply-To: <4A3CE62F.8070505@cubiclesoft.com> References: <4A39832F.8040200@spamcomplaint.net> <4A3CE62F.8070505@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: On Sat, June 20, 2009 15:37, Thomas Hruska wrote: > James Calfee wrote: > >> I see you have a popular project on Sourceforge. I have a similar >> dis-taste for SPAM (don't we all), so I have made a considerable >> investment by writing a SPAM complaint program. >> >> I was wondering if you know someone, say Mark, that is interested in >> helping me integrate with Outlook. I'm a big Linux user but I'm willing >> to use the tools need to build and maintain the add-on so I can reach >> more users and get more spammers and their drones shut-down. >> >> Please have a look, the web site is http://spamcomplaint.net ... >> >> >> thanks, Jimmy >> > > Soooo....your tool basically makes the spam problem worse. Can I > complain about your tool? Agreed, most spam is forged anyway, including forged mail headers. Once an email has left the MTA phase, everything has become untrustworthy. The mail client is not the place where you can identify the spammer. If I ever get backscatter spam from spamcomplaint, it won't take me long to block it on my mailserver. -- Amedee From tim.peters at gmail.com Sat Jun 20 16:27:08 2009 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:27:08 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] fighting spam In-Reply-To: References: <4A39832F.8040200@spamcomplaint.net> <4A3CE62F.8070505@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: <1f7befae0906200727u7491cd4ap4846fc6d6bcb8530@mail.gmail.com> [James Calfee] >>> I see you have a popular project on Sourceforge. ?I have a similar >>> dis-taste for SPAM (don't we all), so I have made a considerable >>> investment by writing a SPAM complaint program. >>> >>> ... >>> >>> Please have a look, the web site is http://spamcomplaint.net ... [Thomas Hruska] >> Soooo....your tool basically makes the spam problem worse. ?Can I >> complain about your tool? [Amedee Van Gasse] > Agreed, most spam is forged anyway, including forged mail headers. Once an > email has left the MTA phase, everything has become untrustworthy. The > mail client is not the place where you can identify the spammer. > > If I ever get backscatter spam from spamcomplaint, it won't take me long > to block it on my mailserver. While I haven't used the program in question, and its FAQ left details unclear to me, it appears to send complaints to various "abuse" addresses associated with the claimed IP of the sender. There are examples on the site of replies from abuse departments, mostly from assorted ISPs saying the info supplied by the program was sufficient for them to track down the spammer using their system for delivery. From admin at spamcomplaint.net Sat Jun 20 18:24:16 2009 From: admin at spamcomplaint.net (James Calfee) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:24:16 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] fighting spam In-Reply-To: <4A3D0643.7090606@spamcomplaint.net> References: <4A39832F.8040200@spamcomplaint.net> <4A3CE5F2.1060409@cubiclesoft.com> <4A3D0643.7090606@spamcomplaint.net> Message-ID: <4A3D0D30.9010209@spamcomplaint.net> Sorry you did not like my project; please see Thomas'e remarks below. Next you might want to consider someone more professional to relay the message. James Calfee wrote: > The idea is stop open relays from sending spam and let people know there > computers are sending spam so they can fix it. > > Thomas Hruska wrote: >> James Calfee wrote: >>> I see you have a popular project on Sourceforge. I have a similar >>> dis-taste for SPAM (don't we all), so I have made a considerable >>> investment by writing a SPAM complaint program. >>> >>> I was wondering if you know someone, say Mark, that is interested in >>> helping me integrate with Outlook. I'm a big Linux user but I'm >>> willing to use the tools need to build and maintain the add-on so I >>> can reach more users and get more spammers and their drones shut-down. >>> >>> Please have a look, the web site is http://spamcomplaint.net ... >>> >>> thanks, >>> Jimmy >> Soooo....your tool basically makes the spam problem worse. Can I complain about your tool? -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1 Get on task. Stay on task. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/ From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Sat Jun 20 19:04:43 2009 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:04:43 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] fighting spam In-Reply-To: <4A3D0D30.9010209@spamcomplaint.net> References: <4A39832F.8040200@spamcomplaint.net> <4A3CE5F2.1060409@cubiclesoft.com> <4A3D0643.7090606@spamcomplaint.net> <4A3D0D30.9010209@spamcomplaint.net> Message-ID: <4A3D16AB.8080602@cubiclesoft.com> James Calfee wrote: > Sorry you did not like my project; please see Thomas'e remarks below. > Next you might want to consider someone more professional to relay the > message. This is a public mass e-mail list where anyone can reply - not just the developers. And my first impressions of the tool were that it simply sent a reply message to whoever sent it, which would make the problem worse, not better - thus the _humorous_ comment in the given context. If you want to have normal people understand what it is that the project offers, you need to fix the initial impression of your tool by changing the website to clearly and precisely label what it does, extend the FAQ significantly, and not assume a screenshot explains everything. It might be obvious to you as to what it does but to me and the rest of the world, it isn't obvious. I'm still not quite sure how it works even after having read some of the on-list replies and I visited the site before I replied. There is simply insufficient information on the website to figure out how it works without downloading and installing it - and most people don't have the time for that. Hopefully this explains my terse, yet humorous reply: I was given the wrong impression, came to the wrong conclusion*, and came up with something witty based on that (wrong) conclusion. I'm not a SB dev. (but I have hacked on some stuff to it). Even the SB devs. here had difficulty understanding what it is that your tool does and at least one dev. came to the same conclusion I did. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1 Get on task. Stay on task. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/ From skip at pobox.com Sat Jun 20 19:47:27 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:47:27 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Many different databases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19005.8367.991342.316386@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dave> I notice a proliferation of choices in SpamBayes of where to store Dave> my training data (pickle, ZODB, etc.) Is any one of these Dave> markedly better than any other? It all depends how long you use the database after opening it and how big it is. I use pickled files and sb_bnfilter.py to score messages. That version of sb_filter.py fires off a backend server which stays alive for awhile. That helps amortize the cost of decoding the pickle. Skip From skip at pobox.com Sat Jun 20 19:51:42 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:51:42 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] DNS error: "nothing to lookup" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19005.8622.458379.224631@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dave> I'm seeing this error during my spambayes training runs: Dave> {'domain': 'boost-consulting.com', 'protocol': 'udp', 'server': ['209.216.206.167'], 'rd': 1, 'opcode': 0, 'timeout': 10, 'timing': 1, 'qtype': 'A', 'port': 53} Dave> Error, fixme nothing to lookup Dave> Question was Dave> Original question was Dave> Type was A That error message is coming from the pydns package. I think the best we can do is recognize the error and avoid the print. Skip From dave at boostpro.com Sat Jun 20 20:48:27 2009 From: dave at boostpro.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:48:27 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] DNS error: "nothing to lookup" In-Reply-To: <19005.8622.458379.224631@montanaro.dyndns.org> (skip@pobox.com's message of "Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:51:42 -0500") References: <19005.8622.458379.224631@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: on Sat Jun 20 2009, skip-AT-pobox.com wrote: > Dave> I'm seeing this error during my spambayes training runs: > > Dave> {'domain': 'boost-consulting.com', 'protocol': 'udp', 'server': > ['209.216.206.167'], 'rd': 1, 'opcode': 0, 'timeout': 10, 'timing': 1, 'qtype': 'A', > port': 53} > Dave> Error, fixme nothing to lookup > Dave> Question was > Dave> Original question was > Dave> Type was A > > That error message is coming from the pydns package. Yes, I know. But what does it mean? It looks like we're asking it to lookup the empty string. We shouldn't be doing that, should we? > I think the best we can do is recognize the error and avoid the print. Seems to me that it must indicate either a bug in spambayes or corruption of my database, unless I'm missing something (entirely possible). -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From carnold at teknerds.net Mon Jun 22 15:14:31 2009 From: carnold at teknerds.net (Chris Arnold) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <16666066.411245676415530.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: <21594478.431245676471094.JavaMail.root@mail> Hello all! New to the list and i have a "basic" question: how do you audit spambayes to make sure it has been integrated correctly and is working the way it is configured to work? The reason i am asking: i have been asked to take over/help out with a companies mail server which uses postfix/squirrelmail and spamassassin. This setup has only been in production for about 2 weeks and spambayes has only been implemented for about 1 week. Some emails that contain the words viagra and the like are coming through as ham and have been asked to audit spambayes and maybe configure some rules for spambayes. From amedee at vangasse.eu Mon Jun 22 17:10:38 2009 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:10:38 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <21594478.431245676471094.JavaMail.root@mail> References: <21594478.431245676471094.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: On Mon, June 22, 2009 15:14, Chris Arnold wrote: > Hello all! New to the list and i have a "basic" question: > how do you audit spambayes to make sure it has been integrated correctly > and is working the way it is configured to work? The reason i am asking: i > have been asked to take over/help out with a companies mail server which > uses postfix/squirrelmail and spamassassin. This setup has only been in > production for about 2 weeks and spambayes has only been implemented for > about 1 week. Some emails that contain the words viagra and the like are > coming through as ham and have been asked to audit spambayes and maybe > configure some rules for spambayes. Spambayes does not use or understand the concept of rules, but if it has only been in use for a week, I suppose that it hasn't been trained yet. How many ham and spam mails have you trained on? From carnold at teknerds.net Mon Jun 22 17:27:35 2009 From: carnold at teknerds.net (Chris Arnold) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <12113925.611245684371074.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: <25969376.631245684455836.JavaMail.root@mail> >Spambayes does not use or understand the concept of rules, Sorry, this was meant for spamassassin. >but if it has >only been in use for a week, I suppose that it hasn't been trained yet. >How many ham and spam mails have you trained on? This was my first question to the client and he did not give me a number, he just said he felt like it should be trained by now. I am meeting him tomorrow morning and will see if i can get some numbers. Is there a command to run that will show the spambayes DB and exactly how many have been trained in all categories? _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From amedee at vangasse.eu Mon Jun 22 17:39:43 2009 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:39:43 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <25969376.631245684455836.JavaMail.root@mail> References: <25969376.631245684455836.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: On Mon, June 22, 2009 17:27, Chris Arnold wrote: >> Spambayes does not use or understand the concept of rules, >> > Sorry, this was meant for spamassassin. > >> but if it has only been in use for a week, I suppose that it hasn't been >> trained yet. How many ham and spam mails have you trained on? >> > This was my first question to the client and he did not give me a number, > he just said he felt like it should be trained by now. I am meeting him > tomorrow morning and will see if i can get some numbers. Is there a > command to run that will show the spambayes DB and exactly how many have > been trained in all categories? If you are running sb_server.py in the background, you could use elinks -source http://localhost:8880 | grep am: | html2txt Hope this helps From skip at pobox.com Mon Jun 22 18:19:38 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:19:38 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <21594478.431245676471094.JavaMail.root@mail> References: <16666066.411245676415530.JavaMail.root@mail> <21594478.431245676471094.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: <19007.44826.299353.920888@montanaro.dyndns.org> i have been asked to take over/help out with a companies mail server which uses postfix/squirrelmail and spamassassin. This setup has only been in production for about 2 weeks and spambayes has only been implemented for about 1 week. Some emails that contain the words viagra and the like are coming through as ham and have been asked to audit spambayes and maybe configure some rules for spambayes. Chris, If your system is using SpamAssassin, then you're almost certainly not using SpamBayes. They are two completely different spam filters. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ when i wake up with a heart rate below 40, i head right for the espresso machine. -- chaos @ forums.usms.org From carnold at teknerds.net Mon Jun 22 20:46:28 2009 From: carnold at teknerds.net (Chris Arnold) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <19007.44826.299353.920888@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <10041795.701245696388738.JavaMail.root@mail> >Chris, >If your system is using SpamAssassin, then you're almost certainly not using >SpamBayes. They are two completely different spam filters. Here was part of my confusion: client said he wants spamassassin rules and spambayes advanced settings. I will have to clarify this tomorrow morning. Also, as i have been reading the FAQ on spambayes: it looks like spambayes runs on the client level? Either a outlook plugin or thunderbird plugin. Spambayes does not get installed at the server level? Do i have this correct? From amedee at vangasse.eu Tue Jun 23 00:12:45 2009 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:12:45 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <10041795.701245696388738.JavaMail.root@mail> References: <10041795.701245696388738.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: On Mon, June 22, 2009 20:46, Chris Arnold wrote: >> Chris, >> > >> If your system is using SpamAssassin, then you're almost certainly not >> using SpamBayes. They are two completely different spam filters. >> > Here was part of my confusion: client said he wants spamassassin rules > and spambayes advanced settings. I will have to clarify this tomorrow > morning. Also, as i have been reading the FAQ on spambayes: > it looks like spambayes runs on the client level? Either a outlook plugin > or thunderbird plugin. Spambayes does not get installed at the server > level? Do i have this correct? Actually, in theory Spambayes *can* run at the server level, and for some people it does. It is quite versatile. It can run as an Outlook plugin, as a Thunderbird plugin (third party extension), as a POP proxy, as an IMAP proxy, as a procmail filter (that's how I use it) and there are probably a few other ways of using it. From skip at pobox.com Tue Jun 23 01:14:04 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:14:04 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: References: <10041795.701245696388738.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: <19008.4156.739554.371963@montanaro.dyndns.org> Chris> Here was part of my confusion: client said he wants spamassassin Chris> rules and spambayes advanced settings. I will have to clarify Chris> this tomorrow morning. Also, as i have been reading the FAQ on Chris> spambayes: it looks like spambayes runs on the client level? Chris> Either a outlook plugin or thunderbird plugin. Spambayes does not Chris> get installed at the server level? Do i have this correct? Amedee> Actually, in theory Spambayes *can* run at the server level, and Amedee> for some people it does. It is quite versatile. It can run as an Amedee> Outlook plugin, as a Thunderbird plugin (third party extension), Amedee> as a POP proxy, as an IMAP proxy, as a procmail filter (that's Amedee> how I use it) and there are probably a few other ways of using Amedee> it. (Not sure how I missed Chris's response. Oh well...) What Amedee writes is true. In addition, on the python.org mail server we have SpamBayes integrated with Postfix. I'm not sure how all the pieces fit together, but SpamBayes runs while the SMTP connection is still open. I maintain the training database. We also have minimal integration with Mailman which allows us to score messages coming from Usenet (comp.lang.python -> python-list at python.org). So, yes, you can run SpamBayes on a server in many cases. Skip From carnold at teknerds.net Tue Jun 23 14:04:27 2009 From: carnold at teknerds.net (Chris Arnold) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:04:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <33185353.861245758496430.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: <27700409.881245758666975.JavaMail.root@mail> > Chris> Here was part of my confusion: client said he wants spamassassin > Chris> rules and spambayes advanced settings. I will have to clarify > Chris> this tomorrow morning. Also, as i have been reading the FAQ on > Chris> spambayes: it looks like spambayes runs on the client level? > Chris> Either a outlook plugin or thunderbird plugin. Spambayes does not > Chris> get installed at the server level? Do i have this correct? > > Amedee> Actually, in theory Spambayes *can* run at the server level, and > Amedee> for some people it does. It is quite versatile. It can run as an > Amedee> Outlook plugin, as a Thunderbird plugin (third party extension), > Amedee> as a POP proxy, as an IMAP proxy, as a procmail filter (that's > Amedee> how I use it) and there are probably a few other ways of using > Amedee> it. >(Not sure how I missed Chris's response. Oh well...) > >What Amedee writes is true. In addition, on the python.org mail server we >have SpamBayes integrated with Postfix. I'm not sure how all the pieces fit >together, but SpamBayes runs while the SMTP connection is still open. I >maintain the training database. We also have minimal integration with >Mailman which allows us to score messages coming from Usenet >(comp.lang.python -> python-list at python.org). >So, yes, you can run SpamBayes on a server in many cases. Alright, i think i have some answers for this client :) But i just want to make sure i am on the same page as spambayes: you can not enter any "rules" into spambayes (like mark all messages with the word viagra in the subject/body as spam)? I do see where to set the options (i assume this is where you lower/raise the spam score?). Where, typically, is the config/options file? I see the FAQ says "configured through a file called bayescustomize.ini or .spambayesrc". I assume the *.ini file is for a windows box and the .spambayessrc is for a *nix box? Thanks for all your patience with me as i learn about spambayes. From amedee at vangasse.eu Tue Jun 23 14:59:52 2009 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:59:52 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <27700409.881245758666975.JavaMail.root@mail> References: <27700409.881245758666975.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: <235e03791fa1d1609ed5b0d78ceea82b.squirrel@amedee.be> On Tue, June 23, 2009 14:04, Chris Arnold wrote: > Alright, i think i have some answers for this client :) > But i just want to make sure i am on the same page as spambayes: > you can not enter any "rules" into spambayes (like mark all messages with > the word viagra in the subject/body as spam)? Correct. > I do see where to set the > options (i assume this is where you lower/raise the spam score?). I suppose you talk about the Outlook plugin? I'm on Linux. But probably, yeah. > Where, > typically, is the config/options file? I see the FAQ says "configured > through a file called bayescustomize.ini or .spambayesrc". That's the file. > I assume the > *.ini file is for a windows box and the .spambayessrc is for a *nix box? You assume correct. > Thanks for all your patience with me as i learn about spambayes. You're welcome. -- Amedee From dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com Tue Jun 23 15:04:57 2009 From: dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com (Dale Schroeder) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:04:57 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Audit SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <27700409.881245758666975.JavaMail.root@mail> References: <27700409.881245758666975.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: <4A40D2F9.7050909@BriannasSaladDressing.com> Chris Arnold wrote: >> Chris> Here was part of my confusion: client said he wants spamassassin >> Chris> rules and spambayes advanced settings. I will have to clarify >> Chris> this tomorrow morning. Also, as i have been reading the FAQ on >> Chris> spambayes: it looks like spambayes runs on the client level? >> Chris> Either a outlook plugin or thunderbird plugin. Spambayes does not >> Chris> get installed at the server level? Do i have this correct? >> >> Amedee> Actually, in theory Spambayes *can* run at the server level, and >> Amedee> for some people it does. It is quite versatile. It can run as an >> Amedee> Outlook plugin, as a Thunderbird plugin (third party extension), >> Amedee> as a POP proxy, as an IMAP proxy, as a procmail filter (that's >> Amedee> how I use it) and there are probably a few other ways of using >> Amedee> it. >> > > >> (Not sure how I missed Chris's response. Oh well...) >> >> What Amedee writes is true. In addition, on the python.org mail server we >> have SpamBayes integrated with Postfix. I'm not sure how all the pieces fit >> together, but SpamBayes runs while the SMTP connection is still open. I >> maintain the training database. We also have minimal integration with >> Mailman which allows us to score messages coming from Usenet >> (comp.lang.python -> python-list at python.org). >> > > >> So, yes, you can run SpamBayes on a server in many cases. >> > > Alright, i think i have some answers for this client :) > But i just want to make sure i am on the same page as spambayes: > you can not enter any "rules" into spambayes (like mark all messages with the word viagra in the subject/body as spam)? Not that I'm aware of. > I do see where to set the options (i assume this is where you lower/raise the spam score?). Yes. After some training, I've been able to lower the spam cutoff value significantly. > Where, typically, is the config/options file? I see the FAQ says "configured through a file called bayescustomize.ini or .spambayesrc". I assume the *.ini file is for a windows box and the .spambayessrc is for a *nix box? It varies. I'm using SpamBayes on Debian linux as a server. bayescustomize.ini resides in /usr/bin. I have no .spambayesrc file. I run sbserver.py and configure primarily through the webpage located at host:8880. For client installations, it's usually localhost:8880. In Windows, when installed via Thunderbayes, it is located in the user's profile under Application Data/Thunderbird. A standard install places it in Application Data/SpamBayes. I've never used the Outlook plugin. > Thanks for all your patience with me as i learn about spambayes. Enjoy. It's a wonderful application. Dale -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I went ahead and attached mine as a reference. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ when i wake up with a heart rate below 40, i head right for the espresso machine. -- chaos @ forums.usms.org -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: hammie.opt URL: From jmlarsen at bellsouth.net Fri Jun 26 12:49:15 2009 From: jmlarsen at bellsouth.net (Jean Larsen) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:49:15 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] I think Spambayes may have started having problems with Outlook 2003 Message-ID: <75EF1A023A6B4E0F9FB87ECEA6CF05AF@JeanHPLaptop> I have Vista, which I just upgraded to sp 3. However the problems I have had began before the update. First I kept getting notices that I should reconfigure SpamBayes. I did that using the second option (can't remember what it says now). Basically SpamBayes stopped working at that point. I tried to manually train it, but the same spam kept remaining in the Inbox. When I tried to send an email, I got an error (no number) and was unable to send any email. I rebooted to see if that would cure it. It did cure it the first time, but then I started getting the errors again and no amount of rebooting would cure it. I also found that I was unable to access any of the menus in Outlook. I could click on them (like "New Email") and nothing would happen. My techie suggested that I do a system restore. Outlook worked after that, but Spam Bayes did not. I again got the suggestion to reconfigure. I tried to do that, but continued to have problems with SpamBayes. At that point I decided to upgrade Vista to see if the upgrade cured any of the problems I was having. It didn't cure anything and I was unable to send any email. I was receiving email the entire time. So I decided to uninstall SpamBayes and then reinstall it. I uninstalled it, but when I opened Outlook, the SpamBayes tool bar was still there. So now I am turning to you for assistance. 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