From jmlarsen at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 2 00:28:25 2009 From: jmlarsen at bellsouth.net (Jean Larsen) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:28:25 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] I had to uninstall and reinstall MS Office and in the process, Spambayes no longer appears in Outlook Message-ID: <2A6045A1E2DB4F46A7C1D440999EC9C7@JeanHPLaptop> I can't find it. Please advise. Text Box: Take care, Jean jmlarsen at bellsouth.net Jean M. Larsen 1111 SE Westchester Drive Port Saint Lucie FL 34952 Home: (772) 335-2974 Cell: (772) 812-9555 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 356705 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From amedee at amedee.be Mon Apr 6 10:33:17 2009 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse (amedee.be)) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:33:17 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Assistance required please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, April 6, 2009 00:09, mross at imageidentity.com.au wrote: > Hi, > I've read through the trouble shooting guide. > > > What I'm trying to do is find the actual file that holds all the email > addresses in spambayes, so that I can copy them and add them to my spam > filter on the host account. That way they can be stopped before getting > to my inbox (I think!). > > Is there such a thing? No, there isn't. Spambayes does not work that way. An email address can send spam today, and ham (good mail) tomorrow, and spam again the next day, and Spambayes will be perfectly happy with that. -- Amedee From keith.commins at windmilllane.com Mon Apr 6 12:32:06 2009 From: keith.commins at windmilllane.com (Keith Commins) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:32:06 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Marking message flagged as spam as non spam Message-ID: <49D9DA26.6010201@windmilllane.com> Hi there , Quick one , just wondering is there a quick way of marking a sender who was been mistakenly marked as a spam as non-spam ?? I so far can't see any way of doing this apart from re-training spam bayes from scratch. Is there another easier way?? Thanks for your time.. Regards, Keith From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 6 16:00:29 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:00:29 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Marking message flagged as spam as non spam In-Reply-To: <49DA0576.3050101@windmilllane.com> References: <49D9DA26.6010201@windmilllane.com> <18906.1037.103787.76733@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DA0576.3050101@windmilllane.com> Message-ID: <18906.2813.150359.784588@montanaro.dyndns.org> (please include spambayes at python.org in your replies so others can contribute) Keith> yes you can but unfortunately it doesn't seem to have any Keith> effect. The only way I can see that works is retraining spam Keith> bayes from scratch, which is bit like using a sledgehammer to Keith> crack open an egg How can you tell that it has no effect? Is it possible you have more than one mistake in your spam folder? How many hams and spams have you trained on? Getting SpamBayes to fairly accurately distinguish ham from spam generally only requires training on a few messages of each type, so while it might seem to you like you're using a sledgehammer, it's a relatively lightweight operation. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 6 18:40:06 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:40:06 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Marking message flagged as spam as non spam In-Reply-To: <49DA28FA.5030409@windmilllane.com> References: <49D9DA26.6010201@windmilllane.com> <18906.1037.103787.76733@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DA0576.3050101@windmilllane.com> <18906.2813.150359.784588@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DA28FA.5030409@windmilllane.com> Message-ID: <18906.12390.348537.460006@montanaro.dyndns.org> Keith> Essentially whats happened is that a user put one of his Keith> whitelisted ( I know that Spam Bayes doesn't recognise Keith> white/black lists, its just the easiest way of describing Keith> it)senders into the Junk mail folder by mistake. From that point Keith> on no matter what I've done I cannot make that particular sender Keith> be seen as non spam, apart from re-training from scratch. I've Keith> put all this senders mails into one of the 'ham' folders , and Keith> still its marked as spam, that is what I mean by having no Keith> effect. So essentially its seems that by just merely arranging Keith> mail into the appropriate folders isn't enough, I have to Keith> re-train Spam Bayes for it to take effect. With regards to your Keith> other questions... Keith> Is it possible you have more than one mistake in your spam Keith> folder? -Definitely not, ALL mails from the sender were moved Keith> into the ham folders. Keith> How many hams and spams have you trained on? Keith> -Quite a few , around 350 spam mails, hams around 4500. This is way out-of-balance. Typically SpamBayes works best with roughly equal numbers of ham and spam. Can you post the clues SpamBayes generated for one of these misclassified emails? If you are 100% confident that all messages from the sender have been trained as ham, there must be other spammy clues in the messages which are causing it to be classified as spam. Also, it looks like you are posting via Thunderbird. Are you using the pop3 proxy? Is your colleague using that or perhaps the Outlook plugin? I don't have access to those GUI tools here at work but I believe both allow you to retrain from scratch using your current collection of ham and spam. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Tue Apr 7 07:10:15 2009 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:10:15 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Marking message flagged as spam as non spam In-Reply-To: <18906.12390.348537.460006@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <49D9DA26.6010201@windmilllane.com> <18906.1037.103787.76733@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DA0576.3050101@windmilllane.com> <18906.2813.150359.784588@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DA28FA.5030409@windmilllane.com> <18906.12390.348537.460006@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <49DAE037.1070608@cubiclesoft.com> skip at pobox.com wrote: > Keith> How many hams and spams have you trained on? > Keith> -Quite a few , around 350 spam mails, hams around 4500. > > This is way out-of-balance. Typically SpamBayes works best with roughly > equal numbers of ham and spam. While I agree that this is out of balance, Spambayes seriously needs to get its act together and stop allowing users to train on imbalances or messages classified correctly and allows users to reset the database periodically (the POP3 proxy server seriously needs a feature that allows you to do a complete reset of the database within the UI itself). The rule of thumb I follow is: Train on only one spam in ham and one ham in unsure. Skip training on messages I plan on filtering using my e-mail client (i.e. no point in training on messages I'm going to whitelist in the first place). Once I reach about 300 of each type, reset the database and start over. My problem is that 99.9% of my incoming mail is spam, so there is an imbalance by default. I am forced to delete unsures because the imbalance is so great. IMO, 'unsure' is an inappropriate word choice for the category. It causes many users to feel they need to tell Spambayes what is ham and spam. This, in turn, creates the imbalances they then experience. When was the last update to Spambayes? Time for a new version! -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1 Get on task. Stay on task. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/ From amedee at amedee.be Tue Apr 7 09:15:17 2009 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse (amedee.be)) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:15:17 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Marking message flagged as spam as non spam In-Reply-To: <49DAE037.1070608@cubiclesoft.com> References: <49D9DA26.6010201@windmilllane.com> <18906.1037.103787.76733@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DA0576.3050101@windmilllane.com> <18906.2813.150359.784588@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DA28FA.5030409@windmilllane.com> <18906.12390.348537.460006@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DAE037.1070608@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: <8260df58f54ce4e453e17d73bc2b20a4.squirrel@amedee.be> On Tue, April 7, 2009 07:10, Thomas Hruska wrote: > skip at pobox.com wrote: >> Keith> How many hams and spams have you trained on? >> Keith> -Quite a few , around 350 spam mails, hams around 4500. >> >> >> This is way out-of-balance. Typically SpamBayes works best with >> roughly equal numbers of ham and spam. I have 14005 spam and 2679 ham. That's way out-of-balance too, but I can't say that Spambayes isn't working good enogh for me. No complaints here. > While I agree that this is out of balance, Spambayes seriously needs to > get its act together and stop allowing users to train on imbalances or > messages classified correctly and allows users to reset the database > periodically (the POP3 proxy server seriously needs a feature that allows > you to do a complete reset of the database within the UI itself). I use the procmail filter on Linux. No fancy GUI for me. I have never reset my db, but I think it's just a simple matter of rm'ing the db file. > The rule of thumb I follow is: Train on only one spam in ham and one > ham in unsure. Skip training on messages I plan on filtering using my > e-mail client (i.e. no point in training on messages I'm going to > whitelist in the first place). That's what I do too. I have some procmail rules that come before the Spambayes incantation. > Once I reach about 300 of each type, reset > the database and start over. > > My problem is that 99.9% of my incoming mail is spam, so there is an > imbalance by default. I am forced to delete unsures because the imbalance > is so great. IMO, 'unsure' is an inappropriate word choice for the > category. It causes many users to feel they need to tell Spambayes what > is ham and spam. This, in turn, creates the imbalances they then > experience. > > When was the last update to Spambayes? Time for a new version! Are you using the stable version or the beta version? -- Amedee From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Tue Apr 7 15:10:08 2009 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:10:08 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Marking message flagged as spam as non spam In-Reply-To: <8260df58f54ce4e453e17d73bc2b20a4.squirrel@amedee.be> References: <49D9DA26.6010201@windmilllane.com> <18906.1037.103787.76733@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DA0576.3050101@windmilllane.com> <18906.2813.150359.784588@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DA28FA.5030409@windmilllane.com> <18906.12390.348537.460006@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49DAE037.1070608@cubiclesoft.com> <8260df58f54ce4e453e17d73bc2b20a4.squirrel@amedee.be> Message-ID: <49DB50B0.8030403@cubiclesoft.com> Amedee Van Gasse (amedee.be) wrote: > On Tue, April 7, 2009 07:10, Thomas Hruska wrote: >> My problem is that 99.9% of my incoming mail is spam, so there is an >> imbalance by default. I am forced to delete unsures because the imbalance >> is so great. IMO, 'unsure' is an inappropriate word choice for the >> category. It causes many users to feel they need to tell Spambayes what >> is ham and spam. This, in turn, creates the imbalances they then >> experience. >> >> When was the last update to Spambayes? Time for a new version! > > Are you using the stable version or the beta version? Actually, it is that custom build thing I made a while back that was a modification of the 1.0.4 Stable release. I like the changes I've made but I've since thought of a bunch more that better fit how I train. I just haven't had the time (i.e. gotten annoyed enough) to make the changes. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1 Get on task. Stay on task. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/ From dmp10 at swbell.net Tue Apr 7 22:02:35 2009 From: dmp10 at swbell.net (Diane Plotkin) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:02:35 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Reconfiguring Message-ID: <42AFFED80A094736832D626D5F9B132A@diane1> I keep getting a message that I should go through Spam Bayes Manager to reconfigure Spam Bayes. I've done so several times but I keep getting the message. What do I do now? Diane Plotkin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ldoan at usa.com Sat Apr 11 07:32:32 2009 From: ldoan at usa.com (Lee Doan) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:32:32 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail.com Message-ID: <920DF5C0890C4E8F9E520C96C785B880@LEED> Will SpamBayes work with Mail.com? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Sat Apr 11 15:49:55 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:49:55 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail.com In-Reply-To: <920DF5C0890C4E8F9E520C96C785B880@LEED> References: <920DF5C0890C4E8F9E520C96C785B880@LEED> Message-ID: <18912.40963.32100.609379@montanaro.dyndns.org> Lee> Will SpamBayes work with Mail.com? Unlikely, unless it supports access via POP3 or IMAP. It looks like their premium service (think $) might support POP3. If so, you can use the SpamBayes POP3 proxy to filter mail coming into your computer. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From johnvansickle at cox.net Sat Apr 11 16:02:11 2009 From: johnvansickle at cox.net (John VanSickle) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:02:11 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Message-ID: <93EDB91A57CF4A9696193FAF0CD117F3@JohnLaptop> Hi, I was just wondering if SpamBayes is still in development? I noticed you still have the same Alpha version as of June of 2007. It appears dead, which is too bad since I liked the product and still use the alpha. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Sat Apr 11 16:23:29 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:23:29 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <93EDB91A57CF4A9696193FAF0CD117F3@JohnLaptop> References: <93EDB91A57CF4A9696193FAF0CD117F3@JohnLaptop> Message-ID: <18912.42977.956882.555698@montanaro.dyndns.org> John> I was just wondering if SpamBayes is still in development? I John> noticed you still have the same Alpha version as of June of 2007. John> It appears dead, which is too bad since I liked the product and John> still use the alpha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218 Not dead. Just resting. We've had few available resources for development the last couple years, especially on Windows. SpamBayes itself is still very much alive though. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From sales at pocketlogger.com Sun Apr 12 08:23:59 2009 From: sales at pocketlogger.com (digital tuning, inc.) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:23:59 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing Message-ID: <20090412073448.7BF9D1E4017@bag.python.org> I have been scouring the docs and all I can find is some brief message posts about my question.. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would appear that sb_filter can not process .eml files by passing the eml filename via the command line, correct? From the docs it would seem it only handles MBOX format. I got it to work if I paste the contents of the eml file via stdin. But when I pass the filename of the email, nothing happens. Is there any way to make sb_filter process eml files? Or am I doing something wrong? It seem if it can process the contents of an eml file, it should be able to open the file and read it itself.... Being able to do so would greatly simplify the integration I'm trying to do with hMailServer. Thanks, Mike Montalvo From amedee at amedee.be Sun Apr 12 18:10:17 2009 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse (amedee.be)) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:10:17 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <93EDB91A57CF4A9696193FAF0CD117F3@JohnLaptop> References: <93EDB91A57CF4A9696193FAF0CD117F3@JohnLaptop> Message-ID: <1fad2cac45e33cf1d25f35f2ab8bbdbf.squirrel@amedee.be> On Sat, April 11, 2009 16:02, John VanSickle wrote: > Hi, > > > > > I was just wondering if SpamBayes is still in development? I noticed you > still have the same Alpha version as of June of 2007. It appears dead, > which is too bad since I liked the product and still use the alpha. I don't think it is dead. It gives no errors for me. And when a product is finished, does it need further development? I don't think so: when it works, don't break it. -- Amedee (just a spambayes user like you) From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 13 00:12:13 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:12:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing In-Reply-To: <20090412073448.7BF9D1E4017@bag.python.org> References: <20090412073448.7BF9D1E4017@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <18914.26429.616565.184417@montanaro.dyndns.org> Mike> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would appear that sb_filter can Mike> not process .eml files by passing the eml filename via the command Mike> line, correct? What's a .eml file? -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Mon Apr 13 00:14:51 2009 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:14:51 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <1fad2cac45e33cf1d25f35f2ab8bbdbf.squirrel@amedee.be> References: <93EDB91A57CF4A9696193FAF0CD117F3@JohnLaptop> <1fad2cac45e33cf1d25f35f2ab8bbdbf.squirrel@amedee.be> Message-ID: <49E267DB.1010206@cubiclesoft.com> Amedee Van Gasse (amedee.be) wrote: > On Sat, April 11, 2009 16:02, John VanSickle wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was just wondering if SpamBayes is still in development? I noticed you >> still have the same Alpha version as of June of 2007. It appears dead, >> which is too bad since I liked the product and still use the alpha. > > I don't think it is dead. It gives no errors for me. > And when a product is finished, does it need further development? > I don't think so: when it works, don't break it. If an anti-spam product were truly finished it would delete all spam, keep all good mail, and never need updating/tweaking/training. Spambayes is therefore not finished. IMO, the moment a single spam message enters my inbox, that is an error. The moment a good e-mail that should have entered my inbox is, instead, deleted, that is an error as well. For the most part, Spambayes works, but it falls flat on its face quite often. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1 Get on task. Stay on task. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/ From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 13 02:17:54 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:17:54 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <49E267DB.1010206@cubiclesoft.com> References: <93EDB91A57CF4A9696193FAF0CD117F3@JohnLaptop> <1fad2cac45e33cf1d25f35f2ab8bbdbf.squirrel@amedee.be> <49E267DB.1010206@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: <18914.33970.624097.167191@montanaro.dyndns.org> Thomas> If an anti-spam product were truly finished it would delete all Thomas> spam, keep all good mail, and never need Thomas> updating/tweaking/training. Spambayes is therefore not Thomas> finished. Thomas> IMO, the moment a single spam message enters my inbox, that is Thomas> an error. The moment a good e-mail that should have entered my Thomas> inbox is, instead, deleted, that is an error as well. For the Thomas> most part, Spambayes works, but it falls flat on its face quite Thomas> often. Do you have time to contribute to making SpamBayes better? Those of us who work on SpamBayes or who have done so in the past have done it in our spare time. Nobody is getting rich off this code ignoring your complaints that it isn't perfect. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From vas at mpeks.tomsk.su Mon Apr 13 03:36:04 2009 From: vas at mpeks.tomsk.su (Victor Sudakov) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:36:04 +0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing In-Reply-To: <18914.26429.616565.184417@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <20090412073448.7BF9D1E4017@bag.python.org> <18914.26429.616565.184417@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20090413013604.GA58661@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Mike> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would appear that sb_filter can > Mike> not process .eml files by passing the eml filename via the command > Mike> line, correct? > > What's a .eml file? Basically it is a degenerate Unix mbox. It consists of one message and has no "^From " line. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov at sibptus.tomsk.ru From amedee at amedee.be Mon Apr 13 13:06:57 2009 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:06:57 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing In-Reply-To: <18914.26429.616565.184417@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <20090412073448.7BF9D1E4017@bag.python.org> <18914.26429.616565.184417@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <49E31CD1.6080403@amedee.be> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 skip at pobox.com schreef: > Mike> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would appear that sb_filter can > Mike> not process .eml files by passing the eml filename via the command > Mike> line, correct? > > What's a .eml file? > LMGTFY http://filext.com/file-extension/EML Looks like a proprietary file format that MicroSoft LookOut Express uses to obfuscate emails. - -- Amedee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknjHMwACgkQxc/p9jmqUL4nzQCgplPfBntgkonrY6T0QFJkC4UZ SyQAnjPAQD9A8GTOmjo+2rpTTBEPqD90 =dXJu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From vas at mpeks.tomsk.su Mon Apr 13 13:31:31 2009 From: vas at mpeks.tomsk.su (Victor Sudakov) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:31:31 +0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing In-Reply-To: <49E31CD1.6080403@amedee.be> References: <20090412073448.7BF9D1E4017@bag.python.org> <18914.26429.616565.184417@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49E31CD1.6080403@amedee.be> Message-ID: <20090413113131.GA74162@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Amedee Van Gasse wrote: > skip at pobox.com schreef: > > Mike> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would appear that sb_filter can > > Mike> not process .eml files by passing the eml filename via the command > > Mike> line, correct? > > > > What's a .eml file? > > > LMGTFY > http://filext.com/file-extension/EML > > Looks like a proprietary file format that MicroSoft LookOut Express uses > to obfuscate emails. There is nothing proprietary or obfuscating about it. Don't be paranoid. It is just one mail message as it arrived over SMTP. You can open it in any text editor. In fact, it is a degenerate verion of a Unix mailbox permitting only 1 message per mailbox and no postmark (which you don't need because there is only 1 message). I have done things like "cat *.eml | formail > my.mbox" and similar. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov at sibptus.tomsk.ru From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 13 13:35:52 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:35:52 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing In-Reply-To: <20090413013604.GA58661@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20090412073448.7BF9D1E4017@bag.python.org> <18914.26429.616565.184417@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20090413013604.GA58661@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Message-ID: <18915.9112.222578.342230@montanaro.dyndns.org> Mike> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would appear that sb_filter can Mike> not process .eml files by passing the eml filename via the command Mike> line, correct? >> What's a .eml file? Victor> Basically it is a degenerate Unix mbox. It consists of one Victor> message and has no "^From " line. Ok, then I think I can state that sb_filter does work with such files. I took an mbox file containing a single spam message, stripped it of its From_ line and fed it to sb_filter.py on stdin. Worked as intended: % sb_filter.py < spam.1.eml | egrep Spam X-Spambayes-Classification: spam; 0.93 X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 0.01; '*S*': 0.88; 'response.': 0.09; Was there more you needed it to do? Skip From amedee at amedee.be Mon Apr 13 13:38:25 2009 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:38:25 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <49E267DB.1010206@cubiclesoft.com> References: <93EDB91A57CF4A9696193FAF0CD117F3@JohnLaptop> <1fad2cac45e33cf1d25f35f2ab8bbdbf.squirrel@amedee.be> <49E267DB.1010206@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: <49E32431.6070004@amedee.be> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Hruska schreef: > Amedee Van Gasse (amedee.be) wrote: >> On Sat, April 11, 2009 16:02, John VanSickle wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was just wondering if SpamBayes is still in development? I noticed >>> you >>> still have the same Alpha version as of June of 2007. It appears dead, >>> which is too bad since I liked the product and still use the alpha. >> >> I don't think it is dead. It gives no errors for me. >> And when a product is finished, does it need further development? >> I don't think so: when it works, don't break it. > > If an anti-spam product were truly finished it would delete all spam, > keep all good mail, and never need updating/tweaking/training. Spambayes > is therefore not finished. > > IMO, the moment a single spam message enters my inbox, that is an error. > The moment a good e-mail that should have entered my inbox is, instead, > deleted, that is an error as well. For the most part, Spambayes works, > but it falls flat on its face quite often. > Funny, I have a different opinion about anti-spam. I don't think that anti-spam has to eliminate spam, only that it has to reduce it to tolerable levels. With the current state of technology and the constant changing nature of spam, it is impossible to construct an anti-spam product that is perfect according to your definition. You would need an artificial intelligence like in science fiction, and even then they wouldn't know the difference between a tortoise and a turtle. If anyone is going to make a sentient SpamBayes, please include this line in the code: http://xkcd.com/534/ - -- Amedee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknjJCwACgkQxc/p9jmqUL6OnQCg6sB2HKddsIUodks1RFEFaVuX QEIAoJiCSRtvn3QPaMvp0XW+O6B0vcXz =rEJf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sales at pocketlogger.com Tue Apr 14 18:14:06 2009 From: sales at pocketlogger.com (digital tuning, inc.) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:14:06 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing Message-ID: <20090414161414.439071E401E@bag.python.org> > Ok, then I think I can state that sb_filter does work with such files. I > took an mbox file containing a single spam message, stripped it of its From_ > line and fed it to sb_filter.py on stdin. Worked as intended: > > % sb_filter.py < spam.1.eml | egrep Spam > X-Spambayes-Classification: spam; 0.93 > X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 0.01; '*S*': 0.88; 'response.': 0.09; > > Was there more you needed it to do? Well I know most of you guys are probably *nix people...I'm on windoze. Maybe my command line syntax isn't right As I said in the OP, if I run sb_filter and paste the text of the email in, it works. If I type sb_filter < mail.eml I get: Z:\>sb_filter.py < mail.eml C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py:43: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated from sets import Set Traceback (most recent call last): File "c:\python26\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 257, in main() File "c:\python26\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 245, in main mbox = mboxutils.getmbox(fname) File "c:\python26\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\mboxutils.py", line 66, in getmbox return [get_message(sys.stdin)] File "c:\python26\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\mboxutils.py", line 127, in get_ message obj = obj.read() IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor The python scripts directory is in the path variable. Mail.eml is in the current directory, and it makes no difference if I supply the full path to mail.eml Thanks for any help. I love spambayes, It's been working awesome for years, but hate MS Exchange. I'd really love to get this working with hMailServer as I've built a great hammie.db that catches 99% of spam. I wrote the script needed to integrate SB with the hMailServer, but I can't seem to get this command line working. Once I do that I'll be home free and spam free once again. Thanks, Mike From richie at entrian.com Tue Apr 14 19:22:23 2009 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:22:23 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing In-Reply-To: <20090414161414.439071E401E@bag.python.org> References: <20090414161414.439071E401E@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <8a6ba1da0904141022x3f182e54u17e05563e88e6312@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mike, >?If I type > > ? ? ? ?sb_filter < mail.eml > > I get [...] IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor Try this: python sb_filter.py < mail.eml Depending on how you have your file extensions set up, Windows can fail to do redirection properly with the sort of command line you have there. -- Richie Hindle richie at entrian.com From sales at pocketlogger.com Tue Apr 14 19:53:30 2009 From: sales at pocketlogger.com (digital tuning, inc.) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:53:30 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing In-Reply-To: <8a6ba1da0904141022x3f182e54u17e05563e88e6312@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090414175337.CC92D1E4012@bag.python.org> > Try this: > > python sb_filter.py < mail.eml > > Depending on how you have your file extensions set up, Windows can > fail to do redirection properly with the sort of command line you have > there. That didn't work, but this did: python c:\python26\scripts\sb_filter.py < mail.eml Thanks! Odd since c:\python26\scripts\ is in my path env and I swear I tried this but apparently not. But now I see yet another problem which may make all this moot. Using a new hammie.db, I can train and filter using the command line above. I was using the pop proxy before. I assumed the hammie.db could be used directly with sb_filter, but I get an error if I replace the new hammie.db with the old one from the proxy setup: Traceback (most recent call last): File "c:\python26\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 257, in main() File "c:\python26\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 248, in main action(msg) File "c:\python26\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 179, in filter self.open('r') File "c:\python26\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 163, in open self.h = hammie.open(self.dbname, self.usedb, self.mode) File "c:\python26\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\hammie.py", line 267, in open return Hammie(storage.open_storage(filename, useDB, mode)) File "c:\python26\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 710, in open_storage return klass(data_source_name) File "c:\python26\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 91, in __init__ self.load() File "c:\python26\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 114, in load tempbayes = pickle.load(fp) EOFError The SB versions might be different that the pop proxy I was using. Did anything in the DB change structure over the past 3 years or so? Or are they just not compatible? I thought I had the pop proxy configured for pickle. Thanks! -Mike From skip at pobox.com Tue Apr 14 20:37:13 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:37:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing In-Reply-To: <20090414175337.CC92D1E4012@bag.python.org> References: <8a6ba1da0904141022x3f182e54u17e05563e88e6312@mail.gmail.com> <20090414175337.CC92D1E4012@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <18916.55257.912636.585522@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> ... I get an error if I replace the new hammie.db with the old one >> from the proxy setup: ... >> File "c:\python26\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 114, in load >> tempbayes = pickle.load(fp) >> EOFError >> The SB versions might be different that the pop proxy I was >> using. Did anything in the DB change structure over the past 3 years >> or so? I suspect the default database type might have changed. Make sure you specify a SpamBayes INI file with the proper settings. >> Or are they just not compatible? I thought I had the pop proxy >> configured for pickle. Maybe not. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From gwaller at turbonet.com Tue Apr 14 22:42:02 2009 From: gwaller at turbonet.com (Greg Waller) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:42:02 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Assistance on documentation Message-ID: I don't have the funds to support your program at this time. However, I do have some time every now and then to help with proof-reading your documentation. I do have considerable experience with this so let me know if you would like some help. For example: Whenever you have phrases like 'Outlook's builtin rules,' you should not put two words together (i.e. built and in) that don't normally go together without a hyphen (-). 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This situation is addressed in the SpamBayes FAQ: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From carltr6 at embarqmail.com Wed Apr 22 18:06:56 2009 From: carltr6 at embarqmail.com (Carl TR6) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:06:56 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003d01c9c364$5c6f3e30$4101a8c0@carlsw> Jan, If it is still in your deleted folder, simply drag it back to your inbox. If it is not there, create another by selecting the Inbox, right clicking on it and click on "New folder". Be sure you name it the same as the original folder. Carl Swofford -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+carltr6=embarqmail.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+carltr6=embarqmail.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:31 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) I accidently deleted by junk mail suspects folder - how to get it back so my suspected emails filter back into that file? HELP! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe it uses just the folder name. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov at sibptus.tomsk.ru From CEMERSON at mcelroy.com Thu Apr 23 15:53:27 2009 From: CEMERSON at mcelroy.com (Cara Emerson) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:53:27 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Office 2007 Message-ID: <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CAB@triton.mcelroymfg.com> Spambayes was working for awhile after installation. Junk Suspects folder was accidently deleted, recovered - Spambayes seemed to be ok. Now Spambayes is not working at all Junk Suspects folder is gone, add-in is disabled. Tried uninstalling and reinstalled add-in - no change. When select Spambayes manager to reconfigure nothing happens - drop down menu does not appear. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you for your attention and assistance, Cara Emerson PC Support Technician McElroy Manufacturing, Inc. 918-836-8611 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 23 18:26:10 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:26:10 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Office 2007 In-Reply-To: <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CAB@triton.mcelroymfg.com> References: <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CAB@triton.mcelroymfg.com> Message-ID: <18928.38562.84888.681577@montanaro.dyndns.org> Cara> Spambayes was working for awhile after installation. Junk Suspects Cara> folder was accidently deleted, recovered - Spambayes seemed to be Cara> ok. Now Spambayes is not working at all Junk Suspects folder is Cara> gone, add-in is disabled. Tried uninstalling and reinstalled Cara> add-in - no change. When select Spambayes manager to reconfigure Cara> nothing happens - drop down menu does not appear. Any suggestions Cara> would be appreciated. Can you retrieve or recreate your Junk Suspects folder? -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From CEMERSON at mcelroy.com Thu Apr 23 18:48:33 2009 From: CEMERSON at mcelroy.com (Cara Emerson) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:48:33 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Office 2007 References: <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CAB@triton.mcelroymfg.com> <18928.38562.84888.681577@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CEE@triton.mcelroymfg.com> Could not recreate using Spambayes. I can try just creating a folder but will the Spambyes configuration still work? Thank you for your attention and assistance, Cara x349 Cell - 231-4542 -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:26 AM To: Cara Emerson Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Using Office 2007 Cara> Spambayes was working for awhile after installation. Junk Suspects Cara> folder was accidently deleted, recovered - Spambayes seemed to be Cara> ok. Now Spambayes is not working at all Junk Suspects folder is Cara> gone, add-in is disabled. Tried uninstalling and reinstalled Cara> add-in - no change. When select Spambayes manager to reconfigure Cara> nothing happens - drop down menu does not appear. Any suggestions Cara> would be appreciated. Can you retrieve or recreate your Junk Suspects folder? -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 23 18:54:25 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:54:25 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Office 2007 In-Reply-To: <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CEE@triton.mcelroymfg.com> References: <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CAB@triton.mcelroymfg.com> <18928.38562.84888.681577@montanaro.dyndns.org> <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CEE@triton.mcelroymfg.com> Message-ID: <18928.40257.551313.637954@montanaro.dyndns.org> Cara> Could not recreate using Spambayes. I can try just creating a Cara> folder but will the Spambyes configuration still work? That I don't know. You can give it a try. I'm not a Windows person so have no direct experience with your problem. I was just making a suggestion based on past threads in the mailing list. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From CEMERSON at mcelroy.com Thu Apr 23 18:58:55 2009 From: CEMERSON at mcelroy.com (Cara Emerson) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:58:55 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Office 2007 References: <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CAB@triton.mcelroymfg.com> <18928.38562.84888.681577@montanaro.dyndns.org> <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CEE@triton.mcelroymfg.com> <18928.40257.551313.637954@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1E1CD397FD5B6C4D8724C1DC190E4AA2953CEF@triton.mcelroymfg.com> Thanks for the help Thank you for your attention and assistance, Cara x349 Cell - 231-4542 -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:54 AM To: Cara Emerson Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Using Office 2007 Cara> Could not recreate using Spambayes. I can try just creating a Cara> folder but will the Spambyes configuration still work? That I don't know. You can give it a try. I'm not a Windows person so have no direct experience with your problem. I was just making a suggestion based on past threads in the mailing list. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ "XML sucks, dictionaries rock" - Dave Beazley From sales at pocketlogger.com Thu Apr 23 19:04:35 2009 From: sales at pocketlogger.com (digital tuning, inc.) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:04:35 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Command line .eml processing In-Reply-To: <18916.55257.912636.585522@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20090423170454.34A861E4014@bag.python.org> Just wanted to thank everyone for their help. Turns out the hammie I had was not a pickle. After telling sb_filter that, it worked great. I have hMailServer up and running adding spambayes headers to the emails as they come in. Thanks! -Mike From avw at charter.net Fri Apr 24 00:16:03 2009 From: avw at charter.net (Alan) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:16:03 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Error Message-ID: How can I fix the exception error: 0x8004010a ? Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barbara at shepenco.com Mon Apr 27 22:11:56 2009 From: barbara at shepenco.com (Barbara Hunt) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:11:56 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] I have a question Message-ID: How do I recover a delete? Barbara Hunt Accounting Shepenco Shelbyville Pencil Co., Inc. P O Box 727 Shelbyville, TN 37160 931-684-7700 Phone 888-873-6245 Fax -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From carltr6 at embarqmail.com Wed Apr 29 01:55:31 2009 From: carltr6 at embarqmail.com (Carl TR6) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:55:31 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000201c9c84f$b4ccc4e0$3e00a8c0@trapperscreek.com> Message-ID: <026a01c9c85c$d0aaa300$4101a8c0@carlsw> If I understand your question correctly, you have files in your Spam folder that you want deleted? If this is the case, just delete them as you would delete any file in your inbox. Spambayes does not delete files; it only moves files that it has identified as spam to the spam folder. Carl Swofford -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+carltr6=embarqmail.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+carltr6=embarqmail.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Brewer Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:22 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) I want to delete from the Spam folder to "delete as spam", but it only allows me " recover from span". What am I not doing when I try to configure spambays? Thanks. Gloria Brewer Trapper's Creek Smoking Co.,Inc. 5650 B Street, Anchorage, Alaska 99518 907-561-8088 Fax 907-561-8389 gloriab at trapperscreek.com www.trapperscreek.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Wed Apr 29 14:07:29 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:07:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Anybody heard of 3D Mailbox Light? Message-ID: <20090429120729.A22E91026F58@montanaro.dyndns.org> I came across 3D Mailbox (and its Light version) in a Google Alert I set up for SpamBayes: http://www.3dmailbox.com/ http://www.3dmailbox.com/light/ I'd never heard of it before. Looks like they have SpamBayes very tightly integrated. Skip From sales at digitaltuning.com Wed Apr 29 17:18:22 2009 From: sales at digitaltuning.com (digital tuning, inc.) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:18:22 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Anybody heard of 3D Mailbox Light? In-Reply-To: <20090429120729.A22E91026F58@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20090429154542.A6B081E419A@bag.python.org> As a pilot, that is so cool. As an email "power user"...ehh, no thanks.. Seems their website hasn't been updated since 2007...and... "www.3dmailbox.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate expired on 4/10/2009 4:59 PM." From amedee at amedee.be Thu Apr 30 15:08:41 2009 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse (amedee.be)) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:08:41 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes needs admin privileges to install Message-ID: <5191bc2416210a534586faa748491cc8.squirrel@amedee.be> Hello list, Some of you know that I'm a Linux user, but at work I'm forced to use MS Outlook 2007. When I try to install with the exe, I get the message "You must be logged in as an administrator when installing this program." Strange, because strictly speaking spambayes is a user tool, not a system tool. It shouldn't need elevated privileges. How can I manually install Spambayes? I also downloaded the zip file, but it isn't obvious for me what I should do next. I searched the archives, but I didn't find anything interesting or helpful. Kind regards, Amedee From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 30 17:14:28 2009 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:14:28 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes needs admin privileges to install In-Reply-To: <5191bc2416210a534586faa748491cc8.squirrel@amedee.be> References: <5191bc2416210a534586faa748491cc8.squirrel@amedee.be> Message-ID: <18937.49236.334247.991706@montanaro.dyndns.org> Amedee> Strange, because strictly speaking spambayes is a user tool, not Amedee> a system tool. It shouldn't need elevated privileges. Can't help there. Amedee> How can I manually install Spambayes? I also downloaded the zip Amedee> file, but it isn't obvious for me what I should do next. Probably unzip it, install Python then run pythonn setup.py install Why didn't you just download the installer and run it? Do you have a strong need for a source-based install on Windows? Skip