From popiel at wolfskeep.com  Wed Oct  1 05:52:50 2008
From: popiel at wolfskeep.com (T. Alexander Popiel)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:52:50 -0700
Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] milter implementation of spambayes
In-Reply-To: <48DE0492.7000204@amedee.be> 
References: <4277.81.11.192.161.1222386422.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be>
	<20080926205104.6ABF62DDAC@cashew.wolfskeep.com>
	<48DE0492.7000204@amedee.be>
Message-ID: <20081001035250.442652DDAC@cashew.wolfskeep.com>

In message:  <48DE0492.7000204 at amedee.be>
             Amedee Van Gasse <amedee at amedee.be> writes:

[ discussion of implementing spambayes as milter ]

>Yes I know that it isn't particulary useful except for the very few
>false positives.
>But what bothers me, is that currently I have no idea at all how many
>spam I get. I have set up munin to show me the postfix rejections but
>spambayes-spam of course doesn't show up in those stats.
>If you know another way to inject spambayes-spam back into the postfix
>logs and statistics, I'd be much obliged.

Well, I don't know how to get it back into the postfix logs, but you
could easily log and keep stats separately by routing the spam to a
counter program instead of sending it straight to /dev/null.  The
program could then keep whatever statistics you wanted.

- Alex

From amedee at amedee.be  Wed Oct  1 09:36:06 2008
From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:36:06 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] milter implementation of spambayes
In-Reply-To: <20081001035250.442652DDAC@cashew.wolfskeep.com>
References: <4277.81.11.192.161.1222386422.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be>
	<20080926205104.6ABF62DDAC@cashew.wolfskeep.com>
	<48DE0492.7000204@amedee.be>
	<20081001035250.442652DDAC@cashew.wolfskeep.com>
Message-ID: <31959.193.121.250.194.1222846566.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be>

On Wed, October 1, 2008 05:52, T. Alexander Popiel wrote:
> In message:  <48DE0492.7000204 at amedee.be>
>              Amedee Van Gasse <amedee at amedee.be> writes:
>
> [ discussion of implementing spambayes as milter ]
>
>>Yes I know that it isn't particulary useful except for the very few
>>false positives.
>>But what bothers me, is that currently I have no idea at all how many
>>spam I get. I have set up munin to show me the postfix rejections but
>>spambayes-spam of course doesn't show up in those stats.
>>If you know another way to inject spambayes-spam back into the postfix
>>logs and statistics, I'd be much obliged.
>
> Well, I don't know how to get it back into the postfix logs, but you
> could easily log and keep stats separately by routing the spam to a
> counter program instead of sending it straight to /dev/null.  The
> program could then keep whatever statistics you wanted.
>
> - Alex
>
>
Thank you Alex, but that sounds like a hypothetical program that still has
to be written, and I am not a programmer. Programming always sounds like
black magic to me... ;-)


From baggy at ghlproperties.co.uk  Fri Oct  3 15:31:10 2008
From: baggy at ghlproperties.co.uk (baggy)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:31:10 +0100
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Addin
Message-ID: <BE359160904D406286F21683C95B1BC4@GHLProperties.local>

Hi 

 

I have tried on serveral occassions loading spambayes addin to outlook - it
has been working perfectly for years and then for some unknown reason
outlook (2003) closes and asks to be restarted - citing spambayes mananger
as a problem (don't recall exact message). Have tried to reinstall after
uninstalling serveral times. Cant seem to find a readme.txt file to indicate
problems. 

 

Using windows xp professional

Spambayes 1.0.4 ( have used beta as well)

 

Can't seem to trace any logfiles - looked for passed 4/5 hours

 

Please help

Regards

Baggy Tiwana 

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From tony at valueadded.com.au  Sun Oct  5 09:19:47 2008
From: tony at valueadded.com.au (Tony Cohen)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:19:47 +1100
Subject: [Spambayes] use of spambayes
Message-ID: <ECB6596302F34681A7ECF999A22BE7A9@TONYLAPTOP>

I am confused

Where does the program store spam when it finds it?

Rgds

Tony Cohen
Value Added Solutions 
Phone: 0417 881 990
Email: tony at valueadded.com.au
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From skip at pobox.com  Wed Oct  8 14:08:33 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:08:33 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] FWD: Addin fails to load
Message-ID: <18668.41665.584029.79273@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>


This came to spambayes-dev.  Can one of you talented Outlook users help Erik
out?

Thanks,

Skip

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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Thu Oct  9 07:57:06 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:57:06 +1100
Subject: [Spambayes] FWD: Addin fails to load
In-Reply-To: <18668.41665.584029.79273@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
References: <18668.41665.584029.79273@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
Message-ID: <028e01c929d3$df3c0260$9db40720$@com.au>

> This came to spambayes-dev.  Can one of you talented Outlook users help
> Erik out?

...

> I have installed the Spam Bayes 1.1a4 version, but whe I start Outlook
2007, I get 
> an error that the add in fails to load..

In these cases, I tend to hope that the user will read the auto-response
they get when posting, then realize they haven't included any of the
information we need, so then follow the instructions and send another email
with that extra information.

Erik - did you get that auto-response, and did it give you the information
you need to give *us* the information we need to help you?  Is the FAQ at
spambayes.org any help?

Cheers,

Mark



From anev at verizon.net  Thu Oct  9 14:22:20 2008
From: anev at verizon.net (Allen Neville)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:22:20 -0400
Subject: [Spambayes] help
Message-ID: <NAEBIDCKGIIPPBEDAEKBCECEPLAA.anev@verizon.net>

My filtering stopped working yesterday, went through tbl shooting guides.
Lost all toolbars, don't know how.
i'm running windows XP
ver 1.0.4 spambyes
attaching 2 log files
any help will be appreciated
Thank you
Allen Neville
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From thruska at cubiclesoft.com  Thu Oct  9 14:52:49 2008
From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:52:49 -0700
Subject: [Spambayes] help
In-Reply-To: <NAEBIDCKGIIPPBEDAEKBCECEPLAA.anev@verizon.net>
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Message-ID: <48EDFEA1.8030303@cubiclesoft.com>

Allen Neville wrote:
> My filtering stopped working yesterday, went through tbl shooting guides.
> Lost all toolbars, don't know how.
> i'm running windows XP
> ver 1.0.4 spambyes
> attaching 2 log files
> any help will be appreciated
> Thank you
> Allen Neville

Yesterday, I too had Spambayes completely flake out on me.  I run the 
localhost POP3 server flavor but the server refused to start.  The "fix" 
for me was to close the application and start it up again.  This is the 
first time this happened.

-- 
Thomas Hruska
CubicleSoft President
Ph: 517-803-4197

*NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1
Get on task.  Stay on task.

http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/


From tofumany at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  9 23:55:55 2008
From: tofumany at yahoo.com (youfindr roxx)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:55:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spambayes] I have a new Yahoo! Mail address
Message-ID: <31362768.8381631223589355426.JavaMail.vmail@service25>

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From brajesh at mountmadonna.org  Fri Oct 10 00:16:50 2008
From: brajesh at mountmadonna.org (Brajesh)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:16:50 -0700
Subject: [Spambayes] Help Needed
Message-ID: <699F46DC9C4C6F439C4E9088AF52D20D010EFC97@vishnu.mmc-s1.mountmadonna.org>

Dear friends at Spambayes,

I've used Spambayes for many years and love it.  Now I'm having a
problem.  I go to Junk Suspects, highlight what I want to Recover From
Spam, click on that button, and nothing happens.  Same when I click on
Delete As Spam.  Same thing when I'm in my Inbox, highlight a message,
and click on Delete As Spam.  

Other than that, Spambayes is working fine, sorting out Junk and Junk
Suspects and otherwise working ok.

What can I do to get those buttons to work?

Thanks,
Jerry

Jerry Friedberg
Program Director
Mount Madonna Center
445 Summit Road
Watsonville, Ca. 95076
(408) 846-4009
www.mountmadonna.org
brajesh at mountmadonna.org

From kranthili2020 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 19:27:03 2008
From: kranthili2020 at gmail.com (kranthi reddy)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:57:03 +0530
Subject: [Spambayes] REG: SPAM BAYES FILTERING MAILS USING COMMAND LINE
Message-ID: <5920c8cb0810101027o1024e7bar23afe8ca44877293@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

         I am  new to spambayes. I have some trouble in understanding the
system. can some one please help me out.

   I have trained the spambayes using few mails and and have gone through
the code as to which function is calling which function and so on...What i
found is that it calculates the wordinfoset(x,y).

 This training i have done using sb_filter.py

Now when i use it for testing with the "-f" option. I get the mail as the
result but no output is being given as to whether it is a spam mail or a ham
mail.

While i try to print the values from "probability" function present in
classifier.py i get something like the below.This i think is the spam
probability for a few clues.

WordInfo(8, 0) 0.973372781065
WordInfo(2, 0) 0.908163265306
WordInfo(10, 0) 0.978468899522
WordInfo(6, 0) 0.96511627907
WordInfo(4, 0) 0.949438202247

Now from where do we get to know if the mail is spam or ham ???


Thanking you in advance
kranthi reddy.B
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From carestes at clearwire.net  Sat Oct 11 18:36:20 2008
From: carestes at clearwire.net (Annette Estes)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:36:20 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Troubleshooting Spam
Message-ID: <745C1EEC66A640649FF077EC630B51E2@DF422Q11>

Hello,

 

I am needing some assistance from you if you can help.  I recently had to
reset my mailbox setting due to my wireless company upgrading or something.
It seems to have affected my SpamBytes from working.  After resetting my
mailbox and getting all that done - I can click send/receive for all my
emails and I get a bunch of messages marked Spam.  I didn't know if I need
to do something to SpayBytes since I reset my mailbox with my carrier.  I
can't even receive my normal emails all I get are msgs marked Spam.  Can you
help.  I am currently operating Windows XP and my version of SpamBytes is
SpamBytes OutlookAddin Binary Version 1.0.4(March 2005). 

 

Thank you,

Annette 

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From gjohnson870 at nyc.rr.com  Sat Oct 11 19:29:43 2008
From: gjohnson870 at nyc.rr.com (Gary Johnson)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:29:43 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [Spambayes] Config
Message-ID: <48F0E287.000003.03580@LJOHNSON>

How do you configure spambayes to work with incredimail.

I use it with outlook and it works great.

Thanks,
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From amedee at amedee.be  Sat Oct 11 21:15:42 2008
From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:15:42 +0200
Subject: [Spambayes] Config
In-Reply-To: <48F0E287.000003.03580@LJOHNSON>
References: <48F0E287.000003.03580@LJOHNSON>
Message-ID: <48F0FB5E.6000700@amedee.be>

Gary Johnson schreef:
> How do you configure spambayes to work with incredimail.
>  
> I use it with outlook and it works great.

Hello Gary,

Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html

You can use Spambayes as a POP proxy or as an IMAP filter.

By the way, Incredimail is a really, *really* sucky mail client, even
compared to Microsoft Office Outlook. Incredimail sends email with
fonts, backgrounds, animated images,...
And what does spam usually look like? Fonts, backgrounds, animated
images... I have seen a lot of spam filters chocke on mail sent by
Incredimail.

Please, please, *please* go back to Microsoft Office Outlook. It is a
superior product. And this is coming from a Linux user, so that means *a
lot*!

-- 
Amedee

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From jsp at PKC.com  Mon Oct 13 14:40:37 2008
From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:40:37 -0400
Subject: [Spambayes] Troubleshooting Spam
In-Reply-To: <745C1EEC66A640649FF077EC630B51E2@DF422Q11>
References: <745C1EEC66A640649FF077EC630B51E2@DF422Q11>
Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9070E87A0@PKCVT01.pkc.com>

Have you tried reclassifying misclassified messages? That is, dragging
good messages from the Spam folder to your Inbox, or selecting messages
in the Spam folder and clicking "Recover from Spam" (at least, I think
that's the button label in 1.0.4) in the SpamBayes toolbar? Depending on
your existing training data, it may take a while to retrain SpamBayes
(though it's not clear to me why it would need retraining in your case).
 
Grasping at straws...

________________________________

From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Annette
Estes
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:36 PM
To: spambayes at python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] Troubleshooting Spam



Hello,

 

I am needing some assistance from you if you can help.  I recently had
to reset my mailbox setting due to my wireless company upgrading or
something.  It seems to have affected my SpamBytes from working.  After
resetting my mailbox and getting all that done - I can click
send/receive for all my emails and I get a bunch of messages marked
Spam.  I didn't know if I need to do something to SpayBytes since I
reset my mailbox with my carrier.  I can't even receive my normal emails
all I get are msgs marked Spam.  Can you help.  I am currently operating
Windows XP and my version of SpamBytes is SpamBytes OutlookAddin Binary
Version 1.0.4(March 2005). 

 

Thank you,

Annette 

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From Paul2 at mountmadonna.org  Mon Oct 13 21:14:51 2008
From: Paul2 at mountmadonna.org (Paul N)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:14:51 -0700
Subject: [Spambayes] issues
Message-ID: <699F46DC9C4C6F439C4E9088AF52D20D0114693F@vishnu.mmc-s1.mountmadonna.org>

Hi,

 

In our small organization we are using  your program spambayes and as of
late we are having issues with the delete as spam button it doesn't seem
to be working? Any ideas? 

 

Thanks,

Paul

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From BobShipley at RMRElevator.com  Tue Oct 14 20:28:06 2008
From: BobShipley at RMRElevator.com (Bob Shipley)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:28:06 -0400
Subject: [Spambayes] "No filterable mail items are selected."
Message-ID: <20081014185454.41A621E4002@bag.python.org>

I am running the binary version. I recently installed Spambayes 1.0.4. I
used a  minimum of training - ~400 messages. When I click on a spam message
in my in box, I get the following: "no filterable mail items are selected."
 
Can you help me?
 
Bob Shipley 
RMR Elevator Co Inc.
800-648-0017 work
908-313-0691 cell
BobShipley at RMRElevator.com
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From skip at pobox.com  Tue Oct 14 21:01:44 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:01:44 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] "No filterable mail items are selected."
In-Reply-To: <20081014185454.41A621E4002@bag.python.org>
References: <20081014185454.41A621E4002@bag.python.org>
Message-ID: <18676.60568.746872.861759@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>


    Bob> I am running the binary version. I recently installed Spambayes
    Bob> 1.0.4. I used a minimum of training - ~400 messages. When I click
    Bob> on a spam message in my in box, I get the following: "no filterable
    Bob> mail items are selected."
 
    Bob> Can you help me?

I can't help you with Outlook issues, but approximately 400 messages is
hardly "a minimum of training".  Assuming you've trained on about equal
numbers of ham and spam I would think maybe 20 messages would be a minimum
of training.  Are those 400 messages mostly spam or approximately equal
numbers of ham and spam?

Skip

From jsp at PKC.com  Tue Oct 14 21:15:22 2008
From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:15:22 -0400
Subject: [Spambayes] "No filterable mail items are selected."
In-Reply-To: <18676.60568.746872.861759@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
References: <20081014185454.41A621E4002@bag.python.org>
	<18676.60568.746872.861759@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9070E89AF@PKCVT01.pkc.com>

You can find quite a bit of discussion about this with a Google search
for '"no filterable" spambayes".  I didn't read much, but
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes-bugs/2005-September/003746.ht
ml has a lot of discussion.  Looks like it could be a bug; I'm not sure
whether anyone ever found a way to fix it.  You could always try one of
the 1.1 alphas.  (I've been running one for years.  It's not flawless,
but it's pretty darned good.)

I'm with Skip: 400 messages is more than a minimal training set.  I
usually get good results after I've trained on a few dozen messages
(which I try to keep fairly evenly split between ham and spam).  I've
trained on about 210 messages in the last several months and I'm
starting to think about starting over.  (The quickness with which
SpamBayes learns to discern spam impresses me, so I retrain periodically
just to watch it learn.  Perhaps I am in need of professional help.)

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of
skip at pobox.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:02 PM
To: Bob Shipley
Cc: spambayes at python.org
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] "No filterable mail items are selected."


    Bob> I am running the binary version. I recently installed Spambayes
    Bob> 1.0.4. I used a minimum of training - ~400 messages. When I
click
    Bob> on a spam message in my in box, I get the following: "no
filterable
    Bob> mail items are selected."
 
    Bob> Can you help me?

I can't help you with Outlook issues, but approximately 400 messages is
hardly "a minimum of training".  Assuming you've trained on about equal
numbers of ham and spam I would think maybe 20 messages would be a
minimum
of training.  Are those 400 messages mostly spam or approximately equal
numbers of ham and spam?

Skip
_______________________________________________
SpamBayes at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html

From skip at pobox.com  Tue Oct 14 22:10:39 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:10:39 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] "No filterable mail items are selected."
In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9070E89AF@PKCVT01.pkc.com>
References: <20081014185454.41A621E4002@bag.python.org>
	<18676.60568.746872.861759@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
	<16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9070E89AF@PKCVT01.pkc.com>
Message-ID: <18676.64703.902670.775278@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>


    Jesse> (The quickness with which SpamBayes learns to discern spam
    Jesse> impresses me, so I retrain periodically just to watch it learn.
    Jesse> Perhaps I am in need of professional help.)

In my experience you will eventually do one of the following:

    * incorrectly train some hams as spam or vice versa

    * Nominally train some messages correctly, but have that training tip
      the balance of some common clues in the wrong direction.

Training from scratch periodically erases these mistakes and meta-mistakes.

A brief explanation of the second item (the "meta-mistake").  We are all
used to seeing these lines at the bottom of each list message:

    SpamBayes at python.org
    http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
    Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
    Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html

All those words are clues.  Consider "FAQ".  That's probably a pretty hammy
clue because it's seen in lots of SpamBayes messages, several of which
you've trained on.  Now suppose we get a couple messages with just a single
similar line:

    Enlargement: http://some.where/zowie

or

    Please her: http:/some.where.else/wow

It trains on what it sees, including the tokens generated from the one line
content line in those messages and the clues in the footer of every
SpamBayes message.  (There are often lots of clues in the message headers
you typically don't see.)  If your training database is kind of small (as
mine tends to be) after training on a couple spams which sneak through "FAQ"
and the other clues in the footer and message headers might start to look
kind of spammy.  So, even though you were "correct" to train that message as
spam, it might have the effect of "overwhelming" the scoring of some good
messages, pushing them into the unsure category (or worse - generating a
false positive).

Skip

From amedee at amedee.be  Tue Oct 14 23:43:18 2008
From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:43:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spambayes] "No filterable mail items are selected."
In-Reply-To: <20081014185454.41A621E4002@bag.python.org>
References: <20081014185454.41A621E4002@bag.python.org>
Message-ID: <4751.81.11.192.161.1224020598.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be>

On Tue, October 14, 2008 20:28, Bob Shipley wrote:
> I am running the binary version. I recently installed Spambayes 1.0.4. I
> used a  minimum of training - ~400 messages. When I click on a spam
> message
> in my in box, I get the following: "no filterable mail items are
> selected."

I get that message at work (Outlook plugin) when I try to train on
"undeliverable"-replies, or on messages that were migrated from Lotus
Notes to Exchange.
The last kind doesn't have the usual mail headers, like the route of the
mail, mail client of the sender, etc. The migration software didn't
migrate that, or Lotus Notes doesn't store it in the first place. Can't
check that now, all our Notes mailboxes have been deleted a couple of
months ago.

-- 
Amedee


From mazmanaz at cox.net  Thu Oct 16 06:20:06 2008
From: mazmanaz at cox.net (Manuel A. Maza)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:20:06 -0700
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Vista.
Message-ID: <000001c92f46$78683040$693890c0$@net>

Dear Sirs:

  I am a user of your product for Windows XP. I would like to know if one
for Vista will soon be available. I run Vista Home Premium on my laptop and
would like to continue to use Spambayes as my anti spam program.

 

Manuel A. Maza

 

 

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From amedee at amedee.be  Thu Oct 16 09:54:13 2008
From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:54:13 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Vista.
In-Reply-To: <000001c92f46$78683040$693890c0$@net>
References: <000001c92f46$78683040$693890c0$@net>
Message-ID: <36892.193.121.250.194.1224143653.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be>

On Thu, October 16, 2008 06:20, Manuel A. Maza wrote:
> Dear Sirs:
>
>   I am a user of your product for Windows XP. I would like to know if one
> for Vista will soon be available. I run Vista Home Premium on my laptop
> and
> would like to continue to use Spambayes as my anti spam program.

Other people have reported that the current version of Spambayes works on
Windows Vista.

-- 
Amedee


From Charles at wirefield.com  Fri Oct 17 17:44:03 2008
From: Charles at wirefield.com (Charles Bishop - Wirefield Ltd)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:44:03 +0100
Subject: [Spambayes] Help
Message-ID: <50256E0F9DDF3C4D8F7F1EB7ACFABA165AAA1D@wfserver.Wirefield.local>

Does this work with Windows Mobile 6.1
professional........................
 

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From sebastien.iappini at orange.fr  Tue Oct 21 15:58:06 2008
From: sebastien.iappini at orange.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_Iappini?=)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:58:06 +0200
Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes
Message-ID: <48FDDFEE.1030203@orange.fr>

Hello,

I am using spambayes and i would like to know how configure it with the 
adress email

example i would like to configure spambayes at python.org 
<mailto:spambayes at python.org> as not a spam, and any email received from 
spambayes at python.org will always go to good messages and never in spam

do you think is it possible please?

Best regards

S?bastien
_ <mailto:spambayes at python.org>_



From amedee at amedee.be  Tue Oct 21 16:11:55 2008
From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:11:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes
In-Reply-To: <48FDDFEE.1030203@orange.fr>
References: <48FDDFEE.1030203@orange.fr>
Message-ID: <7324.81.11.221.25.1224598315.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be>

On Tue, October 21, 2008 15:58, S?bastien Iappini wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am using spambayes and i would like to know how configure it with the
> adress email
>
> example i would like to configure spambayes at python.org
> <mailto:spambayes at python.org> as not a spam, and any email received from
> spambayes at python.org will always go to good messages and never in spam
>
> do you think is it possible please?

You don't need to do that.
Just keep training SpamBayes and it will learn automatically.

And by the way, sometimes (not often) spammers send mail to
spambayes at python.org too!

-- 
Amedee


From jsp at PKC.com  Tue Oct 21 16:12:27 2008
From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:12:27 -0400
Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes
In-Reply-To: <48FDDFEE.1030203@orange.fr>
References: <48FDDFEE.1030203@orange.fr>
Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90716ADF5@PKCVT01.pkc.com>

E-mail addresses are among the tokens SpamBayes looks at, so SpamBayes will generally classify messages correctly once you've done enough training.

See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-blacklisting-to-spambayes for more on whitelisting (the term for what you're asking for), including why it may not be a good idea.

You appear to be using Thunderbird, so if you decide you want to do this, you may be able to use Thunderbird filters, which are applied to incoming messages.  See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Filters for more information, or do a Google search for "thunderbird filters."

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of S?bastien Iappini
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:58 AM
To: spambayes at python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes

Hello,

I am using spambayes and i would like to know how configure it with the 
adress email

example i would like to configure spambayes at python.org 
<mailto:spambayes at python.org> as not a spam, and any email received from 
spambayes at python.org will always go to good messages and never in spam

do you think is it possible please?

Best regards

S?bastien
_ <mailto:spambayes at python.org>_


_______________________________________________
SpamBayes at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html

From amedee at amedee.be  Tue Oct 21 21:29:17 2008
From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:29:17 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes
In-Reply-To: <48FDEF5A.9070004@orange.fr>
References: <48FDDFEE.1030203@orange.fr>
	<7324.81.11.221.25.1224598315.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be>
	<48FDEF5A.9070004@orange.fr>
Message-ID: <2983.81.83.19.229.1224617357.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be>

please reply to spambayes at python.org

On Tue, October 21, 2008 17:03, S?bastien Iappini wrote:
> tnaks for your answer, it is strange because  sometimes a message with
> the same adress email go direct to junk and sometimes go direct to good
> file. and i use training, may be it depend of the contenu.
>
> Amedee Van Gasse a ?crit :
>> On Tue, October 21, 2008 15:58, S?bastien Iappini wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am using spambayes and i would like to know how configure it with the
>>> adress email
>>>
>>> example i would like to configure spambayes at python.org
>>> <mailto:spambayes at python.org> as not a spam, and any email received
>>> from
>>> spambayes at python.org will always go to good messages and never in spam
>>>
>>> do you think is it possible please?
>>>
>>
>> You don't need to do that.
>> Just keep training SpamBayes and it will learn automatically.
>>
>> And by the way, sometimes (not often) spammers send mail to
>> spambayes at python.org too!
>>
>>
>
>
>



From juan_eugenio at correo.insp.mx  Fri Oct 24 21:37:54 2008
From: juan_eugenio at correo.insp.mx (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Eugenio_Hern=E1ndez_=C1vila?=)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:37:54 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] spambates stoped worwing
Message-ID: <AD23922958E272499669A28A32A94AE28B00A8@apolo.redinsp.insp.mx>

Hello,

 

 

Is there anyone who can help me, Spambayes stoped working on my computer, it just not doing anything.  I have an xp service pack 3 office 2007 and it stoped 

 

 

 

Juan Eugenio Hern?ndez ?vila

Director de Inform?tica y Geograf?a M?dica

Instituto Nacional de Salud P?blica

 

Av. Universidad 655 Col. Santa Mar?a Ahuacatitl?n

Cuernavaca, Morelos

M?xico 62508

 

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From lchrisley at koernerassociates.com  Tue Oct 28 15:52:27 2008
From: lchrisley at koernerassociates.com (Lauralyn Chrisley)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:52:27 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] help
Message-ID: <000e01c9390c$cbea98f0$6e01a8c0@KA07>

I have been running SpamBayes successfully until today.  For some reason, when I click on "train" today, I get the message below.  Any suggestions?  Thanks so much.

500 Server error
Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 470, in found_terminator

  File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 396, in onReview

  File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 214, in takeMessage

  File "spambayes\FileCorpus.pyc", line 140, in addMessage

  File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 134, in addMessage

  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 617, in onAddMessage

  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 627, in train

  File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 263, in setId

  File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 119, in _getState

  File "shelve.pyc", line 118, in __getitem__

  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 116, in __getitem__

DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery')
Lauralyn R. Chrisley
KOERNER & ASSOCIATES, INC.
750 Old Hickory Blvd., Suite 150
Nashville, TN 37027
615-371-6162
615-371-6172 (FAX)
Website:  www.koernerassociates.com
Email:  lchrisley at koernerassociates.com
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From skip at pobox.com  Tue Oct 28 16:42:45 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:42:45 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] help
In-Reply-To: <000e01c9390c$cbea98f0$6e01a8c0@KA07>
References: <000e01c9390c$cbea98f0$6e01a8c0@KA07>
Message-ID: <18695.13045.972834.943707@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>


    Lauralyn> DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
    Lauralyn> database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run
    Lauralyn> recovery')

Your training database is corrupt.  You will probably have to retrain from
scratch.  This typically happens when a database is written simultaneously
by two programs.

-- 
Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/

From skip at pobox.com  Tue Oct 28 20:44:33 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:44:33 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] help
In-Reply-To: <00f501c93934$89b653c0$6e01a8c0@KA07>
References: <000e01c9390c$cbea98f0$6e01a8c0@KA07>
	<18695.13045.972834.943707@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
	<00f501c93934$89b653c0$6e01a8c0@KA07>
Message-ID: <18695.27553.178569.624428@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>

>>>>> "Lauralyn" == Lauralyn Chrisley <lchrisley at koernerassociates.com> writes:

    Lauralyn> What do I do to retrain?  Sorry - can't figure it out.

Someone else who uses the pop3 proxy regularly can give you more details,
but generally I think you just exit the proxy, delete the training database
file then restart.  Initially, everything will be unsure.  Just start
marking messages and ham and spam as appropriate.  It should quickly start
to learn your preferences.

Skip

    Lauralyn> ----- Original Message ----- 
    Lauralyn> From: <skip at pobox.com>
    Lauralyn> To: "Lauralyn Chrisley" <lchrisley at koernerassociates.com>
    Lauralyn> Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
    Lauralyn> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:42 AM
    Lauralyn> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] help


    Lauralyn> DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, 
    >> run
    Lauralyn> database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run
    Lauralyn> recovery')
    >> 
    >> Your training database is corrupt.  You will probably have to retrain from
    >> scratch.  This typically happens when a database is written simultaneously
    >> by two programs.
    >> 
    >> -- 
    >> Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/
    >> 


    Lauralyn> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    Lauralyn> No virus found in this incoming message.
    Lauralyn> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
    Lauralyn> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1752 - Release Date: 10/28/2008 
    Lauralyn> 10:04 AM


From Kamran.Niknia at matchcraft.com  Wed Oct 29 01:44:13 2008
From: Kamran.Niknia at matchcraft.com (Kamran Niknia)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:44:13 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Issue with Migration from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003
	- Spambayes stopped working for Outlook 2000 clients
Message-ID: <6ADB9A2590493B44947256FEAAB865832280D1@mcsm-xch01.matchcraft.com>

Hi,
 
We recently migrated from Microsoft Exchange 5.5 SP4 to Microsoft Exchange 2003 SP2.
 
Ever since we turned off our Exchange 5.5 server, last week, Spambayes 1.04 on our Microsoft Outlook 2000 clients (sp3) has for some clients stopped filtering emails and for some clients will filter emails after a few spam messages are selected as "Delete As Spam".
 
It seems as though Spambayes is having issue with the change from Exchange 2003 from Exchange 5.5.
 
What has changed in our configuration that maybe causing this?
 
We've tried several different things to try and fix the issue with no success.
 
We have done the following:
 
Restarted the pc's
Restared outlook
Reinstalled Spambayes 1.04
Left messages in the Junk E-mail folder (to help with history)
 
We've gone through SourceForge and we did not find a situation similar to ours.
 
But none of the changes above have made any affect on the performance of Spambayes. Any suggestions or insight would be much appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Kamran
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From Non-Delivery-Report at BenQ.com  Thu Oct 30 08:41:50 2008
From: Non-Delivery-Report at BenQ.com (Non-Delivery-Report at BenQ.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:41:50 +0800
Subject: [Spambayes] [MailServer Notification]BenQ.com - Security
	Notification: Viurs Alert
Message-ID: <CF5EEE09DAB248B3AEB97690E8AFEA95@benq.corp.com>

Warning to administrator. ScanMail has detected a virus.
Recipient: manfred.wang at benq.com;
Sender: spambayes at python.org;
Subject: Information
Action: Clean fail, delete entire message
Attachment Name: Textfile.zip
Time: ?? 03:40:58
Date: 2008/10/30
Virus Name: WORM_NETSKY.BO
Server Name: BQT-FE11
=====================

=====================

From ebay at globaloptions.co.za  Fri Oct 31 08:20:32 2008
From: ebay at globaloptions.co.za (eBay)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:20:32 +0200
Subject: [Spambayes] converting suspected spam to spam file
Message-ID: <200810310805.m9V85fTN014822@mail.hampton.co.za>

Clicking on suspected (by spambayes) spam or accepted (by spambayes) emails
to convert them to definite spam does not work, they remain where they are
 
I have reloaded spambayes with no change
 
using latest version of spambayes and MSoutlook
regards
 

Pete Maybury

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From Kamran.Niknia at matchcraft.com  Fri Oct 31 18:12:16 2008
From: Kamran.Niknia at matchcraft.com (Kamran Niknia)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:12:16 -0700
Subject: [Spambayes] Issue with Migration from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003
	- Spambayes stopped working for Outlook 2000 clients
Message-ID: <6ADB9A2590493B44947256FEAAB865832280FD@mcsm-xch01.matchcraft.com>

Hi,
 
We recently migrated from Microsoft Exchange 5.5 SP4 to Microsoft Exchange 2003 SP2.
 
Ever since we turned off our Exchange 5.5 server, last week, Spambayes 1.04 on our Microsoft Outlook 2000 clients (sp3) has for some clients stopped filtering emails and for some clients will filter emails after a few spam messages are selected as "Delete As Spam".
 
It seems as though Spambayes is having issue with the change from Exchange 2003 from Exchange 5.5.
 
What has changed in our configuration that maybe causing this?
 
We've tried several different things to try and fix the issue with no success.
 
We have done the following:
 
Restarted the pc's
Restared outlook
Reinstalled Spambayes 1.04
Left messages in the Junk E-mail folder (to help with history)
 
We've gone through SourceForge and we did not find a situation similar to ours.
 
But none of the changes above have made any affect on the performance of Spambayes. Any suggestions or insight would be much appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Kamran
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From lchrisley at koernerassociates.com  Fri Oct 31 20:03:57 2008
From: lchrisley at koernerassociates.com (Lauralyn Chrisley)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:03:57 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] problem with localhost
Message-ID: <012c01c93b8b$719f5490$6e01a8c0@KA07>

I am having trouble getting my e-mails; I'm getting a message saying that localhost is not responding and is timing out after 60 seconds.  I apparently now have 120 messages, and it keeps hanging up on number one.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Lauralyn





Lauralyn R. Chrisley
KOERNER & ASSOCIATES, INC.
750 Old Hickory Blvd., Suite 150
Nashville, TN 37027
615-371-6162
615-371-6172 (FAX)
Website:  www.koernerassociates.com
Email:  lchrisley at koernerassociates.com
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