From stevemalee at yahoo.com Wed Apr 2 15:15:50 2008 From: stevemalee at yahoo.com (Steve Malee) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie questions re: filter and training Message-ID: <612381.25799.qm@web83204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I do feel uncomfortable sending such elementary questions, BUT where else is there a place to ask them? Am using Outlook 2003 SP3, XPPro, Firefox 1. where do you find the technical refresh for outlook? It was mentioned in the FAQs, but not where to get it. 2. when should a person use the "rebuild entire database?" Should it be kept checked all the time? 3. Do you use the filter function and train function both when you are running the program? 4. At what point do you figure that your emails have been trained? What I mean is when should you expect the training to be completed as much as it can be? Or when do you figure that you have not trained properly and the program needs to be re-configured? I now have 362 good and 788 spam and am getting too many mistakes and suspects. My settings are as recommended at 90 and 20. Thanks for your help From DRbnsn636 at aol.com Thu Apr 3 02:33:56 2008 From: DRbnsn636 at aol.com (DRbnsn636 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:33:56 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail Message-ID: Can you tell me how to retrieve deleted spam mail? Thanks. **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080402/716c0598/attachment.htm From tom.petersen at sdsd.sdbor.edu Thu Apr 3 14:05:14 2008 From: tom.petersen at sdsd.sdbor.edu (Petersen, Tom) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:05:14 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2882AF79748F4548AC2CD96AE183703A39F2DC@SDSD-EX01.usdsu.local> Any email you delete should be in your Deleted folder. Could you provide more details on what is happening or what you are seeing? What email program are you using? ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of DRbnsn636 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 7:34 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail Can you tell me how to retrieve deleted spam mail? Thanks. ________________________________ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080403/abc26b52/attachment.htm From amedee at amedee.be Thu Apr 3 15:23:55 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:23:55 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: <2882AF79748F4548AC2CD96AE183703A39F2DC@SDSD-EX01.usdsu.local> References: <2882AF79748F4548AC2CD96AE183703A39F2DC@SDSD-EX01.usdsu.local> Message-ID: <46848.193.121.250.194.1207229035.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Thu, April 3, 2008 14:05, Petersen, Tom wrote: > Any email you delete should be in your Deleted folder. Could you > provide more details on what is happening or what you are seeing? What > email program are you using? X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5002 From jsp at PKC.com Thu Apr 3 15:55:48 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:55:48 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9068ED5D6@PKCVT01.pkc.com> If you're using Outlook (which is not the same as Outlook Express), deleted messages will be in the "Deleted Items" folder until you delete them permanently. You can just drag them back to your inbox. Note, though, that SpamBayes doesn't delete anything on its own. If you're not using Outlook, someone may be able to help if you specify what e-mail client you're using. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of DRbnsn636 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:34 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail Importance: High Can you tell me how to retrieve deleted spam mail? Thanks. ________________________________ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080403/92006a0b/attachment.htm From kiko at async.com.br Thu Apr 3 21:12:41 2008 From: kiko at async.com.br (Christian Robottom Reis) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:12:41 -0300 Subject: [Spambayes] Reproducible DB corruption Message-ID: <20080403191241.GJ15117@async.com.br> Hello there, I have a .hammie.db file that works fine until I train it with this week's spam folder; at that point, I get this traceback: kiko at anthem:~$ /usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py -s ~/mail/spam Training spam (/home/kiko/mail/spam): Reading as Unix mbox 870Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 350, in main() File "/usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 341, in main train(h, s, True, force, trainnew, removetrained) File "/usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 265, in train mbox_train(h, path, is_spam, force) File "/usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 188, in mbox_train if msg_train(h, msg, is_spam, force): File "/usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 106, in msg_train h.train(msg, is_spam) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 162, in train self.bayes.learn(tokenize(msg), is_spam) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 272, in learn self._add_msg(wordstream, is_spam) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 374, in _add_msg record = self._wordinfoget(word) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 284, in _wordinfoget r = self.db.get(word) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/shelve.py", line 104, in get if self.dict.has_key(key): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PIL/__init__.py", line 256, in has_key File "bsddb/dbutils.py", line 62, in DeadlockWrap bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30975, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- /home/kiko/.hammie.db: pgin failed for page 23238') Exception bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: DBRunRecoveryError(-30975, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in ignored Exception bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: DBRunRecoveryError(-30975, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in ignored I can train it with other folders and it works well, but this specific folder doesn't. I have daily backups of my .hammie.db and the spam folder going for about 2 weeks so I can probably trace back to see where the problem started. Does this sound like it is something worth investigating? -- Christian Robottom Reis | http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 3376 0125 From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Fri Apr 4 02:57:28 2008 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:57:28 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Reproducible DB corruption In-Reply-To: <20080403191241.GJ15117@async.com.br> References: <20080403191241.GJ15117@async.com.br> Message-ID: <036601c895ee$dd93dfb0$98bb9f10$@com.au> > Hello there, > > I have a .hammie.db file that works fine until I train it with this > week's spam folder; at that point, I get this traceback: > > kiko at anthem:~$ /usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py -s ~/mail/spam > Training spam (/home/kiko/mail/spam): > Reading as Unix mbox > 870Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 350, in > main() ... > File "bsddb/dbutils.py", line 62, in DeadlockWrap > bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30975, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run > database recovery -- /home/kiko/.hammie.db: pgin failed for page > 23238') > Exception bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: DBRunRecoveryError(-30975, > 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal > region error detected; run recovery') in ignored > Exception bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: DBRunRecoveryError(-30975, > 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal > region error detected; run recovery') in ignored ... > Does this sound like it is something worth investigating? It does, as this error has confounded us for years. It would be great if you can narrow it down and upload something to source-forge. A problem is that the report may then sit there for a couple of months until someone finds time to look at it - but that's not really a big problem - it will still be waiting there for us. So, please do investigate if you can, but please don't have too high expectations about someone jumping on it immediately :( Thanks, Mark From catsrus at rwl19.wanadoo.co.uk Fri Apr 4 13:14:47 2008 From: catsrus at rwl19.wanadoo.co.uk (Gwen and Bill) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:14:47 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Safe recipients list Message-ID: I am continually getting a couple of my safe senders going into SPAM. When I 'recover' them from Spam into the INBOX should this make them automatically SAFE SENDERS ? Is there a SAFE SENDERS LIST in SPAM BAYES ? What is the difference between the SPAMBAYES and my JUNK MAIL folders ? Hope you can help me !! I don't really want to have to spend money for my engineer to visit if I can resolve these queries myself !!! Many thanks Gwen Little Horsham West Sussex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080404/d5fce797/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Fri Apr 4 15:13:14 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:13:14 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Safe recipients list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18422.10602.589036.446275@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Gwen> I am continually getting a couple of my safe senders going into Gwen> SPAM. When I 'recover' them from Spam into the INBOX should this Gwen> make them automatically SAFE SENDERS ? Is there a SAFE SENDERS Gwen> LIST in SPAM BAYES ? What is the difference between the SPAMBAYES Gwen> and my JUNK MAIL folders ? Gwen> Hope you can help me !! I don't really want to have to spend Gwen> money for my engineer to visit if I can resolve these queries Gwen> myself !!! Gwen, No, SpamBayes doesn't have a safe senders list (or whitelist). The SpamBayes FAQ addresses this issue: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-blacklisting-to-spambayes -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From pzuuulmv0729 at hotmail.com Sun Apr 6 01:59:30 2008 From: pzuuulmv0729 at hotmail.com (pzuuulmv0729) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:59:30 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Fwd: April Specials Message-ID: Get the Finest Rolex Watch Replica! We only sell premium watches. There's no battery in these replicas just like the real ones since they charge themselves as you move. The second hand moves JUST like the real ones, too. These original watches sell in stores for thousands of dollars. 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For more information on protecting yourself from fraud, please review our Security Tips at https://www.paypal.com/us/securitytips Protect Your Password You should never give your PayPal password to anyone. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080406/49799067/attachment.htm From irisgoosen at versatel.nl Mon Apr 7 15:09:08 2008 From: irisgoosen at versatel.nl (Iris) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:09:08 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Wizard doesnt appear Message-ID: <000801c898b0$90b07a90$0601a8c0@acera0b1a665a8> Dear Sir, I just installed SpamBayes in Outlook. "When you first start Outlook after SpamBayes has been installed, the SpamBayes Installation Wizard will appear." Problem is the Installation Wizard doesn't appear in Outlook Express. Iris Goosen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080407/4f7551a6/attachment.htm From Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com Mon Apr 7 17:04:58 2008 From: Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com (OConchubhair, Andoni) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 16:04:58 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Wizard doesnt appear Message-ID: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2D7CDBD@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> Hello Iris, SpamBayes distinguishes between Outlook (part of Microsoft Office) and Outlook Express. If you read Outlook somewhere it is specific to Outlook and does not apply to Outlook Express. The version of SpamBayes that works with Outlook is a plugin that actually runs in Outlook. I presume this is the version that has the wizard. The version of SpamBayes that can be used with Outlook Express (or any other mail client) is a separate application which does not interact with the mail client at all. I hope this answers your question. Andoni. _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Iris Sent: 07 April 2008 14:09 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Wizard doesnt appear Dear Sir, I just installed SpamBayes in Outlook. "When you first start Outlook after SpamBayes has been installed, the SpamBayes Installation Wizard will appear." Problem is the Installation Wizard doesn't appear in Outlook Express. Iris Goosen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It includes a link to a description of how to set up SpamBayes with Outlook Express. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:05 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Wizard doesnt appear Hello Iris, SpamBayes distinguishes between Outlook (part of Microsoft Office) and Outlook Express. If you read Outlook somewhere it is specific to Outlook and does not apply to Outlook Express. The version of SpamBayes that works with Outlook is a plugin that actually runs in Outlook. I presume this is the version that has the wizard. The version of SpamBayes that can be used with Outlook Express (or any other mail client) is a separate application which does not interact with the mail client at all. I hope this answers your question. Andoni. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Iris Sent: 07 April 2008 14:09 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Wizard doesnt appear Dear Sir, I just installed SpamBayes in Outlook. "When you first start Outlook after SpamBayes has been installed, the SpamBayes Installation Wizard will appear." Problem is the Installation Wizard doesn't appear in Outlook Express. Iris Goosen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080407/53038a6d/attachment.htm From Linda at segallenterprises.com Thu Apr 10 02:19:54 2008 From: Linda at segallenterprises.com (Linda Segall) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 20:19:54 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] question Message-ID: <00f701c89aa0$9b7b67e0$0202a8c0@LINDA> My "remove from junk" button has disappeared, even though I have rebooted my computer. How do I get it back? Linda Segall Co-author, The Gluten Connection (Rodale Press, 2007) Co-author, Leaving Your Leadership Legacy (Oakleapress, 2007) Co-author, Buried Alive! Digging Out of a Management Dumpster (Oakleapress, 2004) www.segallenterprises.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080409/f5993e83/attachment.htm From Jumeaujs1 at aol.com Thu Apr 10 06:58:55 2008 From: Jumeaujs1 at aol.com (Jumeaujs1 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:58:55 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Baes Question Message-ID: Hi, I'm hoping you can help me - I use aol and accidentally deleted an email from my "spam" file and was a very important research document. Is there ANYWAY to get it back???? Thanks and God Bless, Judy **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080410/5e9eb334/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Thu Apr 10 14:31:27 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:31:27 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] question In-Reply-To: <00f701c89aa0$9b7b67e0$0202a8c0@LINDA> References: <00f701c89aa0$9b7b67e0$0202a8c0@LINDA> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9068EDF40@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Perhaps the FAQ will help: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#the-recover-from-spam-button-n o-longer-appears. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Linda Segall Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:20 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] question My "remove from junk" button has disappeared, even though I have rebooted my computer. How do I get it back? Linda Segall Co-author, The Gluten Connection (Rodale Press, 2007) Co-author, Leaving Your Leadership Legacy (Oakleapress, 2007) Co-author, Buried Alive! Digging Out of a Management Dumpster (Oakleapress, 2004) www.segallenterprises.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080410/ff44c157/attachment.htm From erossiter at premierbuild.com.au Fri Apr 11 07:57:14 2008 From: erossiter at premierbuild.com.au (Eric Rossiter) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:57:14 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Spambayes installation Message-ID: Hello, I have a small network of 10 PC's running off a Microsoft small business server 2003 Most installations went with out a hitch and work fine however three PC have a problem. The problem is as follows Having installed Spambayes whenever I click on the Spambayes button to select the manager menu I get a message saying Outlook has to close and do I want to send a report. It doesn't matter if I say send report of don't send report the result is the same....Outlook shuts down and instantly reopens. i.e I cannot open the manu Exactly the same thing happens if I highlight an email to train as spam. OR to untrained as spam from the junk-email folder...... Outlook comes up with the same "about to close" message. when i click the button it then closes down and reopens immediately. The training or untraining is carried out. I have uninstalled and reinstalled outlook. I have downloaded the latest updates of outlook and Office. I have uninstalled and re installed Spambayes. But its still there The computers are HP Compaq mostly Pentium 4 or Dual core. All running Windows XP 2002, SP2 Any help would be appreciated Regards Eric Rossiter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080411/b11b46af/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 68605 bytes Desc: PBG-Email-Signature-2.gif Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080411/b11b46af/attachment-0001.gif From JLamart855 at aol.com Sun Apr 13 21:14:34 2008 From: JLamart855 at aol.com (JLamart855 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:14:34 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail Message-ID: did you ever figure out how to retrieve a spam e-mail accidentally deleted? can you please help me? thank you Carolyn **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080413/c1ffd333/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 14 03:08:51 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:08:51 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18434.44707.978286.696817@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Carolyn> did you ever figure out how to retrieve a spam e-mail Carolyn> accidentally deleted? can you please help me? I suspect that will be a function of your mail software. Look in your trash or your junk mail folder. If it's not there you might have to resort to some sort of third-party software to try and recover the bits from the disk. I don't know how possible that will be. It all depends on what platform you're on and what mail software you're using. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From jeanine.leibowitch at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 18:14:01 2008 From: jeanine.leibowitch at gmail.com (Jeanine Leibowitch) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:14:01 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] conflicts? Message-ID: <004d01c89f13$bad70d70$4201a8c0@SUNFORCE> Hi, I have been using Spambayes in Outlook for years, and very happy. I am used to it, I trained it well, and it obeyes :) As security, among other programs, I had AVG 7.5. Now there is a new version AVG 8.0, I registered for a free trial. It seems a bit complicated. I emailed them, they advise me to uninstall SB. Is there a way to temporarily disable it? Can it create a conflict as they say and I wouldn't be protected at all? I am not sure I will pay for their service after the free month. Thank you very much for your help Best regards Jeanine Leibowitch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080415/04c2e416/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Tue Apr 15 18:34:34 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:34:34 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] conflicts? In-Reply-To: <004d01c89f13$bad70d70$4201a8c0@SUNFORCE> References: <004d01c89f13$bad70d70$4201a8c0@SUNFORCE> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90699A311@PKCVT01.pkc.com> The troubleshooting guide has a section on enabling the plug-in; you should be able to adapt the instructions to disable it instead. See http://spambayes.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/spambayes/trunk/s pambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html#Addin_doesnt_load. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jeanine Leibowitch Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:14 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] conflicts? Hi, I have been using Spambayes in Outlook for years, and very happy. I am used to it, I trained it well, and it obeyes :) As security, among other programs, I had AVG 7.5. Now there is a new version AVG 8.0, I registered for a free trial. It seems a bit complicated. I emailed them, they advise me to uninstall SB. Is there a way to temporarily disable it? Can it create a conflict as they say and I wouldn't be protected at all? I am not sure I will pay for their service after the free month. 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From skip at pobox.com Wed Apr 16 01:43:17 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:43:17 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with SpamBayes Proxy: 500 error In-Reply-To: <20080415211107.674071E4013@bag.python.org> References: <20080415211107.674071E4013@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <18437.15765.325462.776268@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> >> I am using SpamBayes Proxy Version 1.1a3 (April 2007) (binary), with >> version 2.4.4 (#71, Feb 5 2007, 15:24:39) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] >> of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack >> 2). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. >> The problem I am having is when i copy an addy to train as i get a >> 500 server error,what to do???? I don't see any clues in your log file (all lines look normal). I think you'll have to provide more data before anybody can speculate about a cause for the server error. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From david.kanareck at zen.co.uk Wed Apr 16 15:11:17 2008 From: david.kanareck at zen.co.uk (David) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:11:17 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocking messages with Cyrillic characters in title Message-ID: <00d901c89fc3$5b1b8b30$0600a8c0@WASHER> Hi, I'm using Spambayes with Outlook on XP SP-2. Absolutely no problem and extremely satisfied. I have been getting a large amount of spam with headers using Cyrillic characters. Is it possible to train Spambayes to recognise these and automatically delete them as spam? Kindest regards David Kanareck No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date: 15/04/2008 18:10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080416/3a54d82f/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Wed Apr 16 16:08:15 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:08:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocking messages with Cyrillic characters in title In-Reply-To: <00d901c89fc3$5b1b8b30$0600a8c0@WASHER> References: <00d901c89fc3$5b1b8b30$0600a8c0@WASHER> Message-ID: <18438.2127.667636.862992@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> David> Hi, I'm using Spambayes with Outlook on XP SP-2. Absolutely no David> problem and extremely satisfied. I have been getting a large David> amount of spam with headers using Cyrillic characters. Is it David> possible to train Spambayes to recognise these and automatically David> delete them as spam? Just train them as spam. SpamBayes will do the right thing. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Wed Apr 16 16:41:59 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:41:59 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocking messages with Cyrillic characters in title In-Reply-To: <00f301c89fcc$d0196890$0600a8c0@WASHER> References: <00d901c89fc3$5b1b8b30$0600a8c0@WASHER> <18438.2127.667636.862992@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <00f301c89fcc$d0196890$0600a8c0@WASHER> Message-ID: <18438.4151.236814.425549@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> David> I have been training it, but they still pour in!! I just wondered David> if there's any specific instruction you could give, but I suppose David> it's like a blacklist/whitelist - defeats the purpose. Ah well!! Post such a message with the score info so we can have a look. I believe the Outlook plugin gives you a fairly easy way to do this. It might also be helpful if you could post your config file. It's possible something related to non-ASCII text is set incorrectly. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From Danny at Bookiatrist.com Wed Apr 16 16:56:50 2008 From: Danny at Bookiatrist.com (Danny Sheinis) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:56:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Connection error message Message-ID: <480613B2.2050403@Bookiatrist.com> When someone emails me a file of any size (5 MB or bigger) I often get an error message when downloading my email that says "Connection to server localhost timed out." Why does this happen? I'm using Windows XP Pro and Home (two machines, same problem), one using AVG and one using McAfee. Thanks in advance. -- "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." James Madison, fourth US president (1751-1836) ?Freedom of the press means nothing without a correlative freedom to read.? Rep. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) Danny Sheinis Danny at Bookiatrist.com The Bookiatrist, Inc. One Trans Am Plaza Dr. Suite 220 Oakbrook Terrace, IL 60181 630.691.1919 From david.kanareck at zen.co.uk Wed Apr 16 19:34:09 2008 From: david.kanareck at zen.co.uk (David) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:34:09 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues ????? ?????? Message-ID: <002301c89fe8$14559040$0600a8c0@WASHER> Am getting loads of spam with cyrillic characters and would like to know if Spambayes can automatically delete anything with these characters in their headers. Below is score info for typical one. If you need it, could send you the config file if you can tell me where to find it. Kindest regards David Kanareck Combined Score: 57% (0.567348) Internal ham score (*H*): 0.285187 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.419882 # ham trained on: 39 # spam trained on: 76 32 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam '_____' 0.0652174 3 0 '15/04/2008' 0.155172 1 0 '18:10' 0.155172 1 0 '7.5.524' 0.155172 1 0 'skip:" 10' 0.155172 1 0 'message.' 0.310872 15 13 'date:' 0.325631 14 13 'checked' 0.341867 13 13 'database:' 0.341867 13 13 'incoming' 0.341867 13 13 'version:' 0.341867 13 13 'skip:? 10' 0.350354 3 3 '???' 0.355398 2 2 '??????' 0.355398 2 2 'virus' 0.35698 14 15 'release' 0.358294 13 14 'avg.' 0.359817 12 13 'skip:2 10' 0.359817 12 13 'skip:? 20' 0.368678 1 1 'header:Return-path:1' 0.382964 34 41 'found' 0.385564 14 17 'x-mailer:microsoft outlook express 6.00.2900.3138' 0.690039 2 9 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.750084 10 59 '?????' 0.844828 0 1 '????????,' 0.844828 0 1 'header:Received:1' 0.893006 1 18 '???????' 0.908163 0 2 '???????,' 0.908163 0 2 '?????????' 0.908163 0 2 '???????????' 0.908163 0 2 'from:charset:koi8-r' 0.908163 0 2 'subjectcharset:koi8-r' 0.908163 0 2 Message Stream Return-path: Received: from 213245169042.chello.fr ([213.245.169.42]) by bastion05.mail.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jm9Zb-0000Wd-45 for david.kanareck at zen.co.uk; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:29:30 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c89fd6$07c07fcc$de4889b8 at qhhdum> From: =?koi8-r?B?98zBxMnNydI=?= To: Subject: =?koi8-r?B?79TMyd7OwdEgz9TXxdTOwdEg0sXBy8PJ0Q==?= Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:42:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C89FD6.07BC9141" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ZenAWL-Match: false X-Zen-Test-Spam-Score: 0 X-Zen-Test-Spam-Bar: (/) X-Originating-Bastion05-IP: [213.245.169.42] X-Zen-Parent: david.kanareck at zen.co.uk X-Envelope-From: webmaster at bc-express.net X-Envelope-To: david.kanareck at zen.co.uk X-Apparently-To: david.kanareck at zen.co.uk X-Zen-Loop2: 121ab57a64d6be23e61975df9f5e08b4 X-Zen-Loop: ef8ff2940e7f30e96461c666fc9bf052 X-Zen-Stored: julia.zen.co.uk/1Jm9Zi-0007qh-98/2008-04-16 15:29:30 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? _____ 8 (985) 195 44 53 _____ ??????-MOCKBA - I,59 ???.??? 1 ??? - 30?O ?. 2 ???? - ?000 ?. ? ???? - 5?0O ?. _____ ?????? ?p. ? ??????a - ?,63 ???. 1 ??? - ?0?O ?. 2 ???? - 55OO ?. ? ???? - 7??O ?. _____ ?????? + ?????? ?p???a - 3,95 ???. I ??? - 4?0? ?. 2 ???? - 55O0 ?. ? ???? - 700O ?. _____ ?????? ? ?????? ?p.+ ??????a - I2 ???. ?? ??????????* ?? ????? ??? ?? ????? 1 ??? - 80OO ?. 2 ???? - 12500 ?. 3 ???? - 15OOO ?. _____ *????? ?? ?????? 29 ???.??????? - - - - - - - - - ? ????????? ????????: ??? ????????????? ?????? - - - - - - - - - ????????? ??????????? ????, ?????? ?? ??????? ??????????-?????????? ????????, "???????????" ???????, ????? ????? ?????? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date: 15/04/2008 18:10
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All Message Tokens 83 unique tokens '(985)' '*?????' '12500' '15/04/2008' '15ooo' '18:10' '195' '3,95' '30?o' '4?0?' '55o0' '55oo' '5?0o' '7.5.524' '700o' '7??o' '80oo' '?,63' '?000' '?0?o' '???' '???.' '???.???' '???.???????' '????' '????,' '?????' '??????' '???????' '???????,' '????????,' '????????:' '?????????' '??????????*' '???????????' '??????a' '?p.' '?p.+' '?p???a' '_____' 'avg.' 'cc:none' 'checked' 'content-type:text/plain' 'database:' 'date:' 'found' 'from:addr:bc-express.net' 'from:addr:webmaster' 'from:charset:koi8-r' 'from:name:\xf7\xcc\xc1\xc4\xc9\xcd\xc9\xd2' 'header:Date:1' 'header:From:1' 'header:MIME-Version:1' 'header:Message-ID:1' 'header:Received:1' 'header:Return-path:1' 'header:Subject:1' 'header:To:1' 'i,59' 'incoming' 'message-id:@qhhdum' 'message.' 'release' 'reply-to:none' 'sender:none' 'skip:" 10' 'skip:2 10' 'skip:? 10' 'skip:? 20' 'subject:\xcf\xd4\xd7\xc5\xd4\xce\xc1\xd1' 'subject:\xd2\xc5\xc1\xcb\xc3\xc9\xd1' 'subject:\xef\xd4\xcc\xc9\xde\xce\xc1\xd1' 'subject:\xef\xd4\xcc\xc9\xde\xce\xc1\xd1 \xcf\xd4\xd7\xc5\xd4\xce\xc1\xd1 \xd2\xc5\xc1\xcb\xc3\xc9\xd1' 'subjectcharset:koi8-r' 'this' 'to:2**0' 'to:addr:david.kanareck' 'to:addr:zen.co.uk' 'to:no real name:2**0' 'version:' 'virus' 'x-mailer:microsoft outlook express 6.00.2900.3138' No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date: 15/04/2008 18:10 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date: 15/04/2008 18:10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080416/838c53e5/attachment.htm From coffent at bigfoot.com Wed Apr 16 21:35:45 2008 From: coffent at bigfoot.com (Craig Stephan) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:35:45 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Does SpamBayes 1.0.4 support POP3 SSL connections? Message-ID: <48065511.4020805@bigfoot.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080416/88538174/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Wed Apr 16 22:00:08 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:00:08 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues ????? ?????? In-Reply-To: <002301c89fe8$14559040$0600a8c0@WASHER> References: <002301c89fe8$14559040$0600a8c0@WASHER> Message-ID: <18438.23240.760136.187213@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> David, Your company's virus scanner seems to be contributing a lot of weight to the miscalculation. I'm going to guess this text gets appended to every virus-free message which arrives at your server: No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date: 15/04/2008 18:10 Since most mails you receive probably don't contain viruses, so you see those tokens frequently: token spamprob #ham #spam 'message.' 0.310872 15 13 'date:' 0.325631 14 13 'checked' 0.341867 13 13 'database:' 0.341867 13 13 'incoming' 0.341867 13 13 'version:' 0.341867 13 13 'virus' 0.35698 14 15 'release' 0.358294 13 14 'avg.' 0.359817 12 13 'found' 0.385564 14 17 Those are not terribly strong ham signals but there are a lot of them so they skew the final score. The only thing I can suggest is to keep marking spam as such. Eventually, the score for those tokens will fall into the no-man's land of 0.4 to 0.6 and they will be ignored. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Wed Apr 16 22:56:31 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:56:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Does SpamBayes 1.0.4 support POP3 SSL connections? In-Reply-To: <48065511.4020805@bigfoot.com> References: <48065511.4020805@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <18438.26623.662533.954297@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Craig> I'm told that SpamBayes 1.1 supports POP3 SSL connections, but Craig> can't find any information as to whether 1.0.4 does. I'm fairly certain that it doesn't. Skip From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 17 03:36:58 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:36:58 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Does SpamBayes 1.0.4 support POP3 SSL connections? In-Reply-To: <4806A302.8060903@bigfoot.com> References: <48065511.4020805@bigfoot.com> <18438.26623.662533.954297@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <4806A302.8060903@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <18438.43450.84783.128848@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Craig> I'd like to use SpamBayes with Thunderbird but want an SSL Craig> connection. I'll be eagerly awaiting the release of SpamBayes Craig> 1.1 (or at least its move from alpha to beta status). Craig> BTW, I'd tried to use Thunderbayes with Thunderbird, but without Craig> success because of the SSL problem.  The developer of Craig> Thunderbayes has posted a notice that he will no longer support Craig> it. Are there any plans to make an add-on version of SpamBayes Craig> 1.1 for use with Thunderbird? None that I'm aware of. I suppose if the Thunderbayes author doesn't want to support it anymore we could see if he'd be willing to let us suck it into SpamBayes. That would at least keep it from getting lost. Skip From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 17 11:48:21 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:48:21 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues ????? ?????? In-Reply-To: <003b01c8a063$60887060$0600a8c0@WASHER> References: <002301c89fe8$14559040$0600a8c0@WASHER> <18438.23240.760136.187213@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <003b01c8a063$60887060$0600a8c0@WASHER> Message-ID: <18439.7397.230366.632017@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> David> Hi Skip, tghanks for all your help. Looks like damned if you do David> and damned if you don't. If I take of AVG, I'm left without David> anti-virus and if I leave it on, it's going to interfere with the David> "points rating". No easy solution, so I'll just have to do what David> you say and keep marking the rubbish as such!! No, the easy solution is to continue training unsures and mistakes (only!) until the AVG tokens no longer matter. SpamBayes will choose other tokens which indicate he nature of the email. In this particular case, if those 10 clues are ignored my guess is all the skip:* clues will dominate and it will be regarded as spam. If you (or anyone else) are at all interested in understanding a bit about how SpamBayes work you might want to read the background reading page: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/background.html and the stuff it links to. It's really quite elegant at the core. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From keus41246 at casema.nl Thu Apr 17 21:16:22 2008 From: keus41246 at casema.nl (John Keus) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:16:22 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Instaleren Spamfilter [dutch] Message-ID: <000801c8a0bf$85f0d610$2b025453@j2fb1b10dfbee4> Hoe instaleer ik SpamBayes zichtbaar in Outlook? Groetjes John. [Dutch]. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080418/c2bc95fb/attachment.htm From stevemalee at yahoo.com Sat Apr 19 20:24:22 2008 From: stevemalee at yahoo.com (Steve Malee) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] technical refresh for outlook Message-ID: <581810.90398.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Where do you find the technical refresh for outlook? It was mentioned in the FAQs, but not where to get it. From tjcowen at the-owen-family.com Sat Apr 19 21:18:02 2008 From: tjcowen at the-owen-family.com (Terry Owen) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:18:02 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes created _Inbox on Outlook Express Message-ID: <009501c8a252$16a1a750$0200a8c0@Owenfamily> With the implementation of Spambayes I now have an Inbox and an _Inbox. _Inbox was created by Spambayes and all of the incoming mail appears in that folder. Outlook Express only filters automatically from the Inbox so I cannot filter the spam to another folder. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080420/3945bbaa/attachment.htm From jm at jmason.org Sun Apr 20 23:13:01 2008 From: jm at jmason.org (Justin Mason) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:13:01 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] interesting paper: _Exploiting Machine Learning to Subvert Your Spam Filter_ (fwd) Message-ID: <20080420211301.D6E7632CE7@radish.jmason.org> Hi folks -- in case you haven't yet seen this: 'This paper shows how an adversary can exploit statistical machine learning, as used in the SpamBayes spam filter, to render it useless--even if the adversary's access is limited to only 1% of the training messages. We further demonstrate a new class of focused attacks that successfully prevent victims from receiving specific email messages. Finally, we introduce two new types of defenses against these attacks.' http://www.usenix.org/event/leet08/tech/full_papers/nelson/nelson_html/ Basically, measuring the effects of loading spams with huge dictionaries in order to increase false positive frequencies, once the mail has been trained on. Would be interested to hear what people think -- personally: - 1. this is very similar to http://www.cs.dal.ca/research/techreports/2004/CS-2004-06.shtml , and I haven't seen spammers using those attacks in the intervening 4 years. - 2. I wonder how big the messages have to be, in order to affect training in a relatively small number of messages. Maybe limiting the number of tokens trained on per message, might help. It might be worthwhile implementing the described "RONI" scheme to avoid the less targeted form of the issue anyway. --j. From xavier.serret at insucom.eu Mon Apr 21 09:12:20 2008 From: xavier.serret at insucom.eu (Xavier Serret) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:12:20 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Receiving Encrypted e-mails Message-ID: Dear, We are using SpanBayes and are very happy about this software. However, today I tried to install signed e-mails and then exchange encrypted e-mails with our clients. Now, when I receive an encrypted e-mail, SpamBayes sends it to the JunkSuspects. When I aks to "recover from spam", I get an error message saying thet "no filterable items are selected" although the e-mail is selected. Any idea how to configure the SpamBayes Manager to accept encrypted e-mails ? Thanks a lot ! Xavier Serret. Xavier Serret - Managing Director. GSM: +32 472 688 906 Rue des 3 Arbres 16B, 1180 Brussels. Belgium insucom S.A. www.insucom.eu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080421/f2b9e8a9/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 11790 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20080421/f2b9e8a9/attachment.jpeg From jsp at PKC.com Mon Apr 21 13:30:10 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:30:10 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] technical refresh for outlook In-Reply-To: <581810.90398.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <581810.90398.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90699A939@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Where did you see the reference? I don't remember seeing it and I can't find it in the general FAQ, the SpamBayes on Windows page, or the Outlook troubleshooting page. I can't think of any reason why SpamBayes documentation would refer to an Outlook technical refresh, so I'm wondering if you saw it elsewhere. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Steve Malee Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 2:24 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] technical refresh for outlook Where do you find the technical refresh for outlook? It was mentioned in the FAQs, but not where to get it. _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From stevemalee at yahoo.com Mon Apr 21 23:54:37 2008 From: stevemalee at yahoo.com (Steve Malee) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Reply to Jesse Pelton re: technical refresh for outlook Message-ID: <771892.68252.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for your reply to my question re: technical refresh. I found the reference re: technical refresh on the sourceforge.net page. I copied the page below, but it pasted in text, so it is longer than should be..... SF.net Projects SpamBayes anti-spam Tracker Bugs View SpamBayes anti-spam Search Trackers Advanced Project Web Site Project Summary Web Site Screenshots News Statistics Tracker Tracker Summary Bugs Feature Requests Patches Support Requests ToolsStatistics Search Code SVN SVN Browse SVN Statistics Services Get Services Download Browse All Files ToolsStatistics Search Documentation Browse Submit ToolsSearch Tasks Tasks Summary Login and Submit New Browse Admin [ 786513 ] Initial configuration too clunky You may monitor this Tracker item after you login (register an account, if you do not already have one) Submitted By: Mark Hammond - mhammond Date Submitted: 2003-08-11 02:13 Changed to Closed status by: nobody Closed as of: 2003-08-26 01:04 Last Updated By: mhammond - Comment added Date Last Updated: 2003-08-26 01:04 Number of Comments: 1 Number of Attachments: 0 Category: (?) Outlook Group: (?) None Assigned To: (?) Mark Hammond Priority: (?) 5 Status: (?) Closed Resolution: (?) Fixed Summary: (?) Initial configuration too clunky Private: (?) No >From the mailing list: * Should be enabled by default, monitoring the inbox. * I would also recommend that you automatically add a "Junk E-mail" and "Junk Suspects" folder during install and use those as the default destination for flagged messages. If you get a copy of Outlook 2003 beta2 Technical Refresh, Microsoft automatically adds a "Junk E-Mail" folder. Even better, they allow you to right-click the folder and delete spam directly from that folder. This would be a cool dovetail of features with 2003. From rcreking at verizon.net Mon Apr 21 23:49:47 2008 From: rcreking at verizon.net (Dick King) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:49:47 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express problems with SpamBayne Message-ID: <000001c8a3f9$9eda25e0$4201a8c0@DICK> I have your program loaded on my computer and it works terrific. I use Outlook. I am extremely pleased with it. My OE is WIN XP Home Edition. My wife just got a computer and I loaded your program for Outlook Express as she doesn't not have nor use Outlook. Her OE is also WIN XP Home Edition. I am unable to get it to work on her computer. I'm not great at computer problem solving nor deciding where to open what ports, etc. If you would give me some guidance, I would really appreciate it as your product is great and would love to get it to work for her. Thanks, Dick King -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsp at PKC.com Tue Apr 22 14:38:34 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:38:34 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Reply to Jesse Pelton re: technical refresh for outlook In-Reply-To: <771892.68252.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <771892.68252.qm@web83208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90699AAD8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> That's a bug tracker, not a FAQ. I'm impressed that you managed to find it. The only way I could locate it was by searching for that tracker number. In the future, a URL would be more concise and more useful. (Like http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=786513&group_id =61702&atid=498103.) Anyway, the distributed documentation doesn't need to be updated. To get back to your original question, I suspect that the technical refresh was temporarily available to beta testers. You didn't say why you wanted it, but perhaps Service Pack 2 will do what you want. It's available from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=57e27a97-2db6-4 654-9db6-ec7d5b4dd867&displaylang=en. If you're looking for Outlook's junk mail filtering, I'll take the liberty of expressing my opinion of it. It doesn't work well for me, and I do everything I can to work around it. SpamBayes is much more effective, at least in part because it allows me to decide for myself what's spam. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Steve Malee Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:55 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Reply to Jesse Pelton re: technical refresh for outlook Thanks for your reply to my question re: technical refresh. I found the reference re: technical refresh on the sourceforge.net page. I copied the page below, but it pasted in text, so it is longer than should be..... SF.net Projects SpamBayes anti-spam Tracker Bugs View SpamBayes anti-spam Search Trackers Advanced Project Web Site Project Summary Web Site Screenshots News Statistics Tracker Tracker Summary Bugs Feature Requests Patches Support Requests ToolsStatistics Search Code SVN SVN Browse SVN Statistics Services Get Services Download Browse All Files ToolsStatistics Search Documentation Browse Submit ToolsSearch Tasks Tasks Summary Login and Submit New Browse Admin [ 786513 ] Initial configuration too clunky You may monitor this Tracker item after you login (register an account, if you do not already have one) Submitted By: Mark Hammond - mhammond Date Submitted: 2003-08-11 02:13 Changed to Closed status by: nobody Closed as of: 2003-08-26 01:04 Last Updated By: mhammond - Comment added Date Last Updated: 2003-08-26 01:04 Number of Comments: 1 Number of Attachments: 0 Category: (?) Outlook Group: (?) None Assigned To: (?) Mark Hammond Priority: (?) 5 Status: (?) Closed Resolution: (?) Fixed Summary: (?) Initial configuration too clunky Private: (?) No >From the mailing list: * Should be enabled by default, monitoring the inbox. * I would also recommend that you automatically add a "Junk E-mail" and "Junk Suspects" folder during install and use those as the default destination for flagged messages. If you get a copy of Outlook 2003 beta2 Technical Refresh, Microsoft automatically adds a "Junk E-Mail" folder. Even better, they allow you to right-click the folder and delete spam directly from that folder. This would be a cool dovetail of features with 2003. _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From xavier.serret at insucom.eu Tue Apr 22 17:21:50 2008 From: xavier.serret at insucom.eu (Xavier Serret) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:21:50 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Receiving Encrypted e-mails Message-ID: Dear All, We are using SpanBayes and are very happy about this software. However, today I tried to install signed e-mails and then exchange encrypted e-mails with our clients. Now, when I receive an encrypted e-mail, SpamBayes sends it to the JunkSuspects. When I aks to "recover from spam", I get an error message saying thet "no filterable items are selected" although the e-mail is selected. Any idea how to configure the SpamBayes Manager to accept encrypted e-mails ? 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From CATHY.DAWSON-KAVANAGH at DWP.GSI.GOV.UK Wed Apr 23 14:37:01 2008 From: CATHY.DAWSON-KAVANAGH at DWP.GSI.GOV.UK (Dawson-Kavanagh Cathy DCS LAWNSWOOD) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:37:01 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: retrieving a deleted spam e-mail Message-ID: <490523F7C62BB94CB717DD7934DAA9DD148E36@DMM06021.link2.gpn.gov.uk> > -----Original Message----- > From: Dawson-Kavanagh Cathy DCS LAWNSWOOD > Sent: 23 April 2008 13:35 > To: 'spambayes at python.org' > Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail > > I wish to receive a deleted spam E-Mail ********************************************************************** This document is strictly confidential and is intended only for use by the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other action taken in reliance of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. Any views expressed by the sender of this message are not necessarily those of the Department for Work and Pensions. If you have received this transmission in error, please use the reply function to tell us and then permanently delete what you have received. Please note: Incoming and outgoing e-mail messages are routinely monitored for compliance with our policy on the use of electronic communications. ********************************************************************** The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by Cable&Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2007/11/0032.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsp at PKC.com Wed Apr 23 14:58:30 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:58:30 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: <490523F7C62BB94CB717DD7934DAA9DD148E36@DMM06021.link2.gpn.gov.uk> References: <490523F7C62BB94CB717DD7934DAA9DD148E36@DMM06021.link2.gpn.gov.uk> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90699ACB0@PKCVT01.pkc.com> If you're using Outlook, it'll either be in your spam folder, your possible spam folder, or your "Deleted Items" folder - unless you've permanently deleted it, in which case it's gone. This FAQ may help: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#some-of-my-mail-is-going-missi ng. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Dawson-Kavanagh Cathy DCS LAWNSWOOD Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:37 AM To: chkd Subject: [Spambayes] FW: retrieving a deleted spam e-mail -----Original Message----- From: Dawson-Kavanagh Cathy DCS LAWNSWOOD Sent: 23 April 2008 13:35 To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail I wish to receive a deleted spam E-Mail ********************************************************************** This document is strictly confidential and is intended only for use by the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other action taken in reliance of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. 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Website: search for "Non Outlook Solutions": http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html Installation instructions: search for "POP3 Proxy": http://spambayes.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/spambayes/trunk/spamb ayes/README.txt Andoni OConchubhair. _____ From: spambayes-bounces+andoni.oconchubhair=fmr.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+andoni.oconchubhair=fmr.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Dick King Sent: 21 April 2008 22:50 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express problems with SpamBayne I have your program loaded on my computer and it works terrific. I use Outlook. I am extremely pleased with it. My OE is WIN XP Home Edition. My wife just got a computer and I loaded your program for Outlook Express as she doesn't not have nor use Outlook. Her OE is also WIN XP Home Edition. I am unable to get it to work on her computer. 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Then create one new account which you point at your localhost... etc. Andoni. _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Richard Sinden Sent: 24 April 2008 21:12 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Help with outlook express Looks like a great product, the issue I am having is incoming emails appear twice in my inbox when coming through spambays 1.0.4 Using outlook express 6 windows xp and pop in outlook express is set to localhost while in spambayes configure it is set to actual pop.. what is happening is the email is receieved without flowing through spambayes and also receieved after flowing through spambayes thanks in advance Rich -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hm005v6127 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 25 18:41:51 2008 From: hm005v6127 at blueyonder.co.uk (HAMISH MCLEOD) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:41:51 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi Message-ID: <000101c8a6f3$4342e3a0$96302152@user2f6b0df226> I'm getting a number of emails that appear in my Inbox, that I wish to read, but that SPamBayes is marking as Junk and I am unable to find them anywhere. I cannot find the SpamFighter folder to which I directed any mails identified, not can I locate the Suspected Junk folder anywehre through the windows XP search. Help! I've seen emails from friends disappear into oblivion and can't fin them. In most other cases it is a great program and has cleared up my inbox no end... it's just begun to go too far... Regards HJM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Gilbert maldonado -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 28 05:00:30 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:00:30 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] NDR SPAMS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18453.15822.535522.688437@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Gilbert> We are currently getting alot of this notifications of Gilbert> non-delivery that are spam. Is there a patch for this or one on Gilbert> the way by chance? Just train on them as spams. There is no patch necessary. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "There's a fine line between a hobby and a mental illness." Ande Rasmussen From jsp at PKC.com Mon Apr 28 13:57:26 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:57:26 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] conflicts? In-Reply-To: <000d01c8a8a5$e1aa6550$4201a8c0@SUNFORCE> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90699A311@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <000d01c8a8a5$e1aa6550$4201a8c0@SUNFORCE> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906A64D02@PKCVT01.pkc.com> The only thing I can suggest is running through the troubleshooting guide and the FAQ (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html). Maybe someone else on the list will have other ideas. ________________________________ From: Jeanine Leibowitch [mailto:jeanine.leibowitch at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:33 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] conflicts? Hello, Thanks. It worked. However AVG 8 is a big mess. Nothing was working and it screwed many programs. So I uninstalled it, but it doesn't seem to want to be completely uninstalled. Anyway, I tried to re-able Spambayes, I couldn't, so I redownloaded it, reinstalled it. But it doesn't work properly. In my toolbar, I have "recover from Spam", but NOT "delete as Spam" like before. And the button "Spambayes" doesn't work. Would you have any suggestion so it goes back to work? Oh, and I did several "restore", doesn't do any good. Thank you very much Best regards Jeanine Leibowitch -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:35 AM To: Jeanine Leibowitch; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] conflicts? The troubleshooting guide has a section on enabling the plug-in; you should be able to adapt the instructions to disable it instead. See http://spambayes.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/spambayes/trunk/s pambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html#Addin_doesnt_load. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jeanine Leibowitch Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:14 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] conflicts? Hi, I have been using Spambayes in Outlook for years, and very happy. I am used to it, I trained it well, and it obeyes :) As security, among other programs, I had AVG 7.5. Now there is a new version AVG 8.0, I registered for a free trial. It seems a bit complicated. I emailed them, they advise me to uninstall SB. Is there a way to temporarily disable it? Can it create a conflict as they say and I wouldn't be protected at all? I am not sure I will pay for their service after the free month. Thank you very much for your help Best regards Jeanine Leibowitch No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 2:31 PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tom.petersen at sdsd.sdbor.edu Mon Apr 28 14:15:45 2008 From: tom.petersen at sdsd.sdbor.edu (Petersen, Tom) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:15:45 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi In-Reply-To: <000101c8a6f3$4342e3a0$96302152@user2f6b0df226> References: <000101c8a6f3$4342e3a0$96302152@user2f6b0df226> Message-ID: <2882AF79748F4548AC2CD96AE183703A39F3D2@SDSD-EX01.usdsu.local> Try this FAQ for the Suspected Junk folder http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder. That is usually the culprit ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of HAMISH MCLEOD Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 11:42 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Hi I'm getting a number of emails that appear in my Inbox, that I wish to read, but that SPamBayes is marking as Junk and I am unable to find them anywhere. I cannot find the SpamFighter folder to which I directed any mails identified, not can I locate the Suspected Junk folder anywehre through the windows XP search. Help! I've seen emails from friends disappear into oblivion and can't fin them. In most other cases it is a great program and has cleared up my inbox no end... it's just begun to go too far... Regards HJM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amedee at amedee.be Mon Apr 28 14:38:42 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:38:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Instaleren Spamfilter [dutch] In-Reply-To: <000801c8a0bf$85f0d610$2b025453@j2fb1b10dfbee4> References: <000801c8a0bf$85f0d610$2b025453@j2fb1b10dfbee4> Message-ID: <38885.193.121.250.194.1209386322.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Thu, April 17, 2008 21:16, John Keus wrote: > Hoe instaleer ik SpamBayes zichtbaar in Outlook? John, Dan ga je eerst naar de winkel moeten lopen om Microsoft Office te kopen, want jij werkt niet met Outlook. Jij werkt met Outlook Express. En dat is een ander programma! Lees deze FAQ's eens voor meer info (in het Engels): http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlook-express http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and-outlook-express Groetjes, -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be Disclaimer: By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. In particular, I may quote it on usenet. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message. From amedee at amedee.be Mon Apr 28 14:52:06 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:52:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] interesting paper: _Exploiting Machine Learning to Subvert Your Spam Filter_ (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20080420211301.D6E7632CE7@radish.jmason.org> References: <20080420211301.D6E7632CE7@radish.jmason.org> Message-ID: <56625.193.121.250.194.1209387126.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Sun, April 20, 2008 23:13, Justin Mason wrote: > It might be worthwhile implementing the described "RONI" scheme > to avoid the less targeted form of the issue anyway. After reading the article, I think that I am already using something like the "RONI" scheme on the few occasions that I am forced to use Outlook and I am training manually. Just intuitively. -- Amedee From amedee at amedee.be Mon Apr 28 14:33:29 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:33:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues ????? ?????? In-Reply-To: <002301c89fe8$14559040$0600a8c0@WASHER> References: <002301c89fe8$14559040$0600a8c0@WASHER> Message-ID: <31179.193.121.250.194.1209386009.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Wed, April 16, 2008 19:34, David wrote: > > Am getting loads of spam with cyrillic characters and would like to know > if > Spambayes can automatically delete anything with these characters in their > headers. Below is score info for typical one. If you need it, could send > you the config file if you can tell me where to find it. > > Kindest regards > David Kanareck > > > > > > Combined Score: 57% (0.567348) > > Internal ham score (*H*): 0.285187 > Internal spam score (*S*): 0.419882 > > # ham trained on: 39 > # spam trained on: 76 That is not much training. In my experience, Spambayes gets *extremely* accurate after about 100 hams and 100 spams. Your mileage may vary. With the Outlook plugin, I add a column that shows the spam score (see FAQ/wiki for details). I sort on spam score. I look at the bottom and find one spam with the lowest score. Train as spam. Rescore inbox. Now I look at the top, and find one ham with the highest score. Train as ham, rescore. Back to the lowest spam, rescore. Highest ham, rescore. Lather, rince, repeat. Very quickly you will see that all spam scores above 99% and all ham scores below 1%. This method of training is so kewl that I have actually considered installing Outlook on Linux, just so that I could train Spambayes this way. > 'message.' 0.310872 15 13 > > 'date:' 0.325631 14 13 > > 'checked' 0.341867 13 13 > > 'database:' 0.341867 13 13 > > 'incoming' 0.341867 13 13 > > 'version:' 0.341867 13 13 > > 'virus' 0.35698 14 15 > > 'release' 0.358294 13 14 > > 'avg.' 0.359817 12 13 > > 'skip:2 10' 0.359817 12 13 > > 'found' 0.385564 14 17 These are generic tokens added by your virus scanner. After more training they will score around .5 which means they will neither increase nor decrease the global spam score of a message. > 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.750084 10 59 > > 'header:Received:1' 0.893006 1 18 Interesting tokens... > 'from:charset:koi8-r' 0.908163 0 2 > > 'subjectcharset:koi8-r' 0.908163 0 2 And those last two are *really* interesting tokens! Keep on training, I can already see that your Spambayes is improving. -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be Disclaimer: By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. In particular, I may quote it on usenet. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message. From amedee at amedee.be Mon Apr 28 15:10:45 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:10:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] NDR SPAMS In-Reply-To: <18453.15822.535522.688437@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> References: <18453.15822.535522.688437@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Message-ID: <17112.193.121.250.194.1209388245.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Mon, April 28, 2008 05:00, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Gilbert> We are currently getting alot of this notifications of > Gilbert> non-delivery that are spam. Is there a patch for this or one > on > Gilbert> the way by chance? > > Just train on them as spams. There is no patch necessary. On a sidenote: at work we are getting a lot of NDR backscatter too. Technically it's not spam, but it's just as bad. The good news is that these NDR's are only sent to our old mail domains, and we are gong to delete those MX records in a couple of days. But in a few months the spammers will learn the new domain... In the old days, you had to change email addresses when you got too much spam. Now you already have to change your entire domain to avoid spam... :( I've been reading a lot in RFC2821 & RFC2822 lately, and now I can speak SMTP fluently. Not many people know this, but it is *extremely* trivial to fake the sender address. Want to know why you get backscatter? * spammers spams a site with fake sender address (your address) * a GOOD mail server refuses the mail inside the SMTP connection, preferably before DATA, at least before putting it in the queue. That way the real spammer gets the bounce. * If the good mail server isn't sure, it accepts the mail, and if it turns out to be spam after all, it silently drops it (like spambayes does). * a BAD mail server (some exchange configurations, also some qmail configs) accepts the mail, puts it in the queue, and closes the SMTP connection. * The bad mail server then sees that the mail is spam, and bounces it. But to where? The SMTP connection, which cannot be forged, is already closed. So it can only rely on the From: header. Which is of course forged. Which is why you get backscatter. Fortunately the NDR backscatter usually stops after 24-48 hours. Either because the spammer is shut down, or because the bad bouncer is shut down by its internet provider. I'm not sure who the bad bouncers are: stupid mail admins who don't know how to properly configure their servers, or accomplices of the spammers who intentionally bounce? Usually Hanlon's Razor applies but in case of spam it might be an inverse Razor... -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be Disclaimer: By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. In particular, I may quote it on usenet. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message. From cathy at dynamiclearningsolutions.net Mon Apr 28 15:05:49 2008 From: cathy at dynamiclearningsolutions.net (cathy at dynamiclearningsolutions.net) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:05:49 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] folllow up Message-ID: <001701c8a930$95031270$640aa8c0@SYSTEM5> I currently am using Windows XP! Hello, My name is Cathy Pease and I have downloaded SpamBytes 1.0.4 I am having difficulty getting it to work,however. I have Outlook Express 6 and I have tried to access a log file, but have been unsuccessful. Any other thoughts? Thanks, Cathy Pease -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Traceback (most recent call last): File "./sb_server.py", line 104, in ? import spambayes.message File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 211, in ? msginfoDB = MessageInfoDB(message_info_db_name) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 176, in __init__ self.load() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 180, in load self.dbm = dbmstorage.open(self.db_name, self.mode) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/dbmstorage.py", line 65, in open return f(db_name, mode) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/dbmstorage.py", line 20, in open_dbhash return bsddb.hashopen(*args) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/bsddb/__init__.py", line 298, in hashopen d.open(file, db.DB_HASH, flags, mode) bsddb.db.DBInvalidArgError: (22, 'Invalid argument -- /var/spambayes/spambayes.messageinfo.db: unsupported hash version: 9') Exception exceptions.AttributeError: "'MessageInfoDB' object has no attribute 'db'" in > ignored Any ideas? Dale From cathy at dynamiclearningsolutions.net Mon Apr 28 15:04:48 2008 From: cathy at dynamiclearningsolutions.net (cathy at dynamiclearningsolutions.net) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:04:48 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] trying to install Message-ID: <000e01c8a930$7119a6d0$640aa8c0@SYSTEM5> Hello, My name is Cathy Pease and I have downloaded SpamBytes 1.0.4 I am having difficulty getting it to work,however. I have Outlook Express 6 and I have tried to access a log file, but have been unsuccessful. Any other thoughts? Thanks, Cathy Pease -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Beyond that, if you're still stuck, drop a note to the spambayes at python.org mailing list with a summary of what you've tried. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "There's a fine line between a hobby and a mental illness." Ande Rasmussen From Leevallery4 at aol.com Tue Apr 29 00:33:05 2008 From: Leevallery4 at aol.com (Leevallery4 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:33:05 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] Accidentally deleted SPAM folder Message-ID: **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem is as follows Having installed Spambayes whenever I click on the Spambayes button to select the manager menu I get a message saying Outlook has to close and do I want to send a report. It doesn't matter if I say send report of don't send report the result is the same....Outlook shuts down and instantly reopens. i.e I cannot open the manu Exactly the same thing happens if I highlight an email to train as spam. OR to untrained as spam from the junk-email folder...... Outlook comes up with the same "about to close" message. when i click the button it then closes down and reopens immediately. The training or untraining is carried out. I have uninstalled and reinstalled outlook. I have downloaded the latest updates of outlook and Office. I have uninstalled and re installed Spambayes. But its still there The computers are HP Compaq mostly Pentium 4 or Dual core. 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To make a very long and painful story short, I needed to reinstall Spambayes in my Outlook 2002. I first tried to re-enable, which is not possible, there is no disable item (???) It doesn't work. I have as buttons "recover from Spam" and "Spambayes" with an arrow that doesn't work. But no "delete as Spam". I uninstalled it from control panel, then Search and deleted all Spambayes related files. Then tried to reinstall it. I still have this half bar, and nothing works. I also did a few "restore to a previous point". Could you please tell me what to do? all junk go to my inbox. I thank you very much Best regards Jeanine Leibowitch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wlsale4 at sina.com Tue Apr 29 06:52:13 2008 From: wlsale4 at sina.com (www.Wlsale.com) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:52:13 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] (Info)Wlsale.com Being Revised! 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In-Reply-To: <027c01c8a968$946a0c50$6a01a8c0@AlanDesktop> References: <002301c89fe8$14559040$0600a8c0@WASHER> <31179.193.121.250.194.1209386009.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> <027c01c8a968$946a0c50$6a01a8c0@AlanDesktop> Message-ID: <57118.193.121.250.194.1209467932.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Mon, April 28, 2008 21:46, alan falk wrote: > How about an option IN SpamBayes to do this automatically? > Choose the number of iterations? > > Cheers! > Alan Falk > Raleigh, NC > +af > www.plusaf.com > ========================================= > Email protected, incoming and outgoing by F-Prot Anti-Virus > ========================================= How would you automate this? My procedure relies on user input: the user has to decide what is spam and what not. Can you automate user input? That would defeat the usage of SpamBayes in the first place... It's not much work. 15' the first time, and max. 5'/week for additional training. And it's fun, because you can actually *see* SpamBayes improving. I wouldn't automate this for all the money in the world (you can give me some anyway ;-) ) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces+plusaf=plusaf.com at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces+plusaf=plusaf.com at python.org] On Behalf Of > Amedee > Van Gasse > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:33 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam Clues ????? ?????? > > > On Wed, April 16, 2008 19:34, David wrote: >> >> Am getting loads of spam with cyrillic characters and would like to know >> if >> Spambayes can automatically delete anything with these characters in >> their >> headers. Below is score info for typical one. If you need it, could >> send >> you the config file if you can tell me where to find it. >> >> Kindest regards >> David Kanareck >> >> >> >> >> >> Combined Score: 57% (0.567348) >> >> Internal ham score (*H*): 0.285187 >> Internal spam score (*S*): 0.419882 >> > > >> # ham trained on: 39 >> # spam trained on: 76 > > That is not much training. In my experience, Spambayes gets *extremely* > accurate after about 100 hams and 100 spams. Your mileage may vary. > With the Outlook plugin, I add a column that shows the spam score (see > FAQ/wiki for details). I sort on spam score. I look at the bottom and find > one spam with the lowest score. Train as spam. Rescore inbox. Now I look > at the top, and find one ham with the highest score. Train as ham, > rescore. Back to the lowest spam, rescore. Highest ham, rescore. Lather, > rince, repeat. Very quickly you will see that all spam scores above 99% > and all ham scores below 1%. > > This method of training is so kewl that I have actually considered > installing Outlook on Linux, just so that I could train Spambayes this > way. > >> 'message.' 0.310872 15 13 >> >> 'date:' 0.325631 14 13 >> >> 'checked' 0.341867 13 13 >> >> 'database:' 0.341867 13 13 >> >> 'incoming' 0.341867 13 13 >> >> 'version:' 0.341867 13 13 >> >> 'virus' 0.35698 14 15 >> >> 'release' 0.358294 13 14 >> >> 'avg.' 0.359817 12 13 >> >> 'skip:2 10' 0.359817 12 13 >> >> 'found' 0.385564 14 17 > > These are generic tokens added by your virus scanner. After more training > they will score around .5 which means they will neither increase nor > decrease the global spam score of a message. > >> 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.750084 10 59 >> >> 'header:Received:1' 0.893006 1 18 > > Interesting tokens... > >> 'from:charset:koi8-r' 0.908163 0 2 >> >> 'subjectcharset:koi8-r' 0.908163 0 2 > > And those last two are *really* interesting tokens! > Keep on training, I can already see that your Spambayes is improving. > > > -- > Amedee Van Gasse > amedee at amedee.be > > Disclaimer: > By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: > > 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" > 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and > make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends > itself to. In particular, I may quote it on usenet. > 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. > 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that > may be included on your message. > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be Disclaimer: By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. In particular, I may quote it on usenet. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message. From info at moomna.com Tue Apr 29 16:15:37 2008 From: info at moomna.com (Moomna Inc.) 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Administration, OSN service, Moomna (www.moomna.com) PS: As a security measure, we have restricted direct access to our email, for any query or for contact please use our webmail at http://www.moomna.com/selfsite.htm#contactus ; we are sorry for inconvenience further, we wish to uphold our claim to fight against spam and other wrongful means of email marketing; if you wish to remove your email from our mailing list, please do add your email at our remove email link at our website www.moomna.com or through our web-mail; we wish to affirm our policy that we do not send more than two emails in a month. From stevemalee at yahoo.com Tue Apr 29 20:27:18 2008 From: stevemalee at yahoo.com (Steve Malee) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] why read mail Message-ID: <192740.94704.qm@web83205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I read in one of the "help" training messages that mail should always be checked (spam or ham that is being trained) that the message is read. I have not done that, and did not realize it should be done, and what is the reason to check the mail is read option? Am using the Outlook plug-in - under XP Pro SP2 and Outlook 2003 From amedee at amedee.be Wed Apr 30 15:26:52 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:26:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] [SpamBayes] Spam Clues ????? ?????? In-Reply-To: <046f01c8aa56$6ef37ee0$6a01a8c0@AlanDesktop> References: <002301c89fe8$14559040$0600a8c0@WASHER><31179.193.121.250.194.1209386009.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be><027c01c8a968$946a0c50$6a01a8c0@AlanDesktop> <57118.193.121.250.194.1209467932.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> <046f01c8aa56$6ef37ee0$6a01a8c0@AlanDesktop> Message-ID: <22025.193.121.250.194.1209562012.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Wed, April 30, 2008 02:09, alan falk wrote: > If you can describe the process [which is what they did,] it can be > programmed. > That's all I meant. > > Just as SpamBayes filters things which I could be making a decision on, > too... There is a small but critical flaw in your reasoning. It is virtually impossible to describe the mental processes going on in my mind (and your mind) to determine if an email is ham or spam. If there ever were such an algorithm, there would be no need to train Spambayes. Heck, there wouldn't even be a need for Spambayes in the first place, because your theoretical algorithm would be the perfect spamfilter all by itself. Because trying to replicate human mental processes is doomed to fail, various approximations are used. A statistical approximation is one approach, and Spambayes is one implementation of a statistical approach to attempt to mimic human mental processes. It's not perfect, and it will never be, but it's good enough. -- Amedee