[Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes

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Are you quite sure about that?

 

Running Office 2007 here (and outlook), and never ever noticed the [SPAM] (well - actually I did, that was my ISP before I managed to disable that) - at least on my machine, Outlook 2007 does NOT do that.. (and yes.. it *is* handling the SPAM for me (more or less acceptable), since I cannot get SpamBayes to work (w/ OLK2k7 under XP)).. so are you sure your ISP (or your antivirus program? Trend Micro Internet security has (or at least used to have) an option (apart from a COM add-in) to annotate the subject w/ [SPAM]) is not interfering?

 

 

Oops.. reaction to wrong person (sorry about that) - but still to the list, so probably not a problem after all.

 

Regards,

 

John lots

 

 

 

 

john

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From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton
Sent: Friday, 14 September, 2007 14:04
To: mcushman at jasint.com; spambayes at python.org
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes

 

Wow. Makes you wonder which is worse, the spam or Outlook's attempts to deal with it. I wish I could help, but I can't.

 

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From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:16 PM
To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes

Office2007's JunkMail filter pre-pends the [SPAM] tag to a subject line when it thinks its Junk. If one moves the email back into Inbox (or anther box), you have to click a button, "Mark Not As Spam". I was able to hide the buttons.

Jesse Pelton <jsp at PKC.com> wrote: 

Thanks for the feedback. I often wonder how my messages will fare when I send them out into the wide world with a lunch box and a bus ticket. It's good to know when one has been able to do some good work.

 

I don't understand what you mean by "to not have the [SPAM] tag." Could you send a screen shot showing what you want to get rid of? I have a "Spam" column in Outlook's message list, but I think I had to go through a manual process to create it.

 

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From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:58 AM
To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes

I copied your approach; Filtering Inbox and JunkMail. It seems to work fine. My next gripe would be to not have the [SPAM] tag....

 

Overall, it seems to work ok. Thanks for the suggestion.

Jesse Pelton <jsp at PKC.com> wrote:

I don't think there's a way to kill Outlook's filtering altogether. I use a 1.1 alpha version of SpamBayes to work around this. The alphas allow you to tell SpamBayes to move ham as well as spam. I set up SpamBayes to move certain spam and possible spam into folders that I create for the purpose and move ham into my inbox. I have it filter the Outlook junk and junk candidates folders in addition to my inbox. Outlook does its filtering and then SpamBayes overrides it.

 

Inelegant and inefficient (Microsoft's fault, not SpamBayes') but effective.

 


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From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Cushman
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 AM
To: spambayes at python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes

I have a windows vista machine running outlook 2007. Spam Bayes seems to work fine, but my outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter - even in the off mode - seems to be doing the same kind of "work" as spam bayes.  Thus, very little spam makes it into my spam bucket. Naturally, I prefer spambayes to do my spam filtering.

 

Can you add to your faq - or send me the answer - on how to truly turn the Outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter off?



Mark Cushman, President
JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC
240-417-8819 




Mark Cushman, President
JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC
240-417-8819 




Mark Cushman, President
JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC
240-417-8819

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