From MEveloff at Pacbell.net Sat Sep 1 20:01:39 2007 From: MEveloff at Pacbell.net (Mike Eveloff) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:01:39 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <01ec01c7e50f$c1a562a0$44f027e0$@com.au> References: <000001c7e3c2$47d85930$d7890b90$@net> <012501c7e448$7ffffe90$7ffffbb0$@com.au> <000001c7e482$f0172ac0$d0458040$@net> <12280965.post@talk.nabble.com> <01ec01c7e50f$c1a562a0$44f027e0$@com.au> Message-ID: Not sure what did it, but I tried to install (again) and it worked. Prior to the successful install, I had: Uninstalled Spambayes Deleted all Spambayes registry entries Deleted all Spambayes directories Deleted several offending recurring reminders that were upsetting Outlook 2007 Reduced the number of rules that are in place Turned OFF indexing Compacted the PST files Uninstalled BCM (this is my choice for what did it) Now, all would be well if I could get Outlook to be less SLOW. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:57 PM To: 'Brent Miller'; spambayes at python.org; 'Mike Eveloff' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 Does http://starship.python.net/crew/mhammond/spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe fail in the same way for you? I'm currently using that version on Outlook 2007 on Windows XP without any problem. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Brent Miller > Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2007 5:12 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 > > > We have the same issue and have not found a work-around. Too bad > because > Spambayes is a great utility that we can't use in our office anymore. > > > Mike Eveloff wrote: > > > > Alas, no luck. Same thing. > > > > > > > > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:11 PM > > To: MEveloff at Pacbell.net; spambayes at python.org > > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 > > > > > > > > You are probably hitting the issue described (briefly) at > > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#after-installing-spambayes- > outlook > > -crashes-and-then-asks-for-the-plug-in-to-be-disabled - search google > for > > information on disabling DEP for your operating system. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces at python.org] > > On > > Behalf Of Mike Eveloff > > Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2007 5:10 PM > > To: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 > > > > > > > > Having a problem using Spambayes and Outlook 2007. > > > > > > > > I am seeing this message on startup: "Outlook experienced a serious > > problem > > with the 'spambayes' add-in." > > > > > > > > The log file contains: > > > > Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\me \Application > > Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' > > > > Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ me > \Application > > Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' > > > > Bayes database initialized with 0 spam and 0 good messages > > > > SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting > (with > > engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) > > > > on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) > > > > using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit > > (Intel)] > > From kudret at hotpop.com Sat Sep 1 21:07:44 2007 From: kudret at hotpop.com (kudret) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Training problem Message-ID: <12443030.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi all, I have 2 problems. If anyone have an idea or can help me, I'd appreciate it 1) Training problem. I have 2 friends who sends me emails regularly. Sometimes more than one at the same time. I recovered at least 10 times those, but SpamBayes puts them in Junk folder, "IF" they send me 2 or more emails back to back. If there is only one email, then no problem. I think SpamBayes doesn't keep recovered addresses somewhere and everytime scans the inbox, see there are more than one email from the same address, then thinks it's spam. Right ? What can I do for this ? 2) I thought may be I have to re-scan all my saved emails to train SpamBayes, and rebuild database, since I didn't do this at the beginning. When I did this, it didn't do any good job and in addition I lost all spammers. Now most of the spam emails, stays in my inbox, some goes to junk folder, a few of them goes to spam folder. Is there a way to download from somewhere a spammer list. Thanks in advance -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Training-problem-tf4365445.html#a12443030 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kudret at hotpop.com Sat Sep 1 23:09:16 2007 From: kudret at hotpop.com (kudret) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 14:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Training problem In-Reply-To: <12443030.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <12443030.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <12444168.post@talk.nabble.com> I found something, I guess The below is some part of "Spam Clues" report of my friend. Top part of tokens section is fine. It shows no sign of spam. Bottom part of it shows some spam clues, and total is %45 Combined Score: 45% (0.4548) Internal ham score (*H*): 1 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.909599 # ham trained on: 2559 # spam trained on: 48 40 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam ..... 'header:MIME-Version:1' 0.622183 1522 48 'this' 0.695978 1049 46 'date:' 0.741391 801 44 'free' 0.851694 399 44 'found' 0.876964 321 44 'release' 0.887758 289 44 'checked' 0.895329 267 44 'virus' 0.899162 256 44 'message.' 0.899511 255 44 'edition.' 0.899862 254 44 'database:' 0.905145 239 44 'incoming' 0.9055 238 44 'avg' 0.905854 237 44 'version:' 0.905854 237 44 '7.5.484' 0.973684 57 44 '269.13.1/982' 0.993601 2 39 '31-aug-07' 0.993601 2 39 '5:21' 0.993601 2 39 This is an email from SpamBayes Combined Score: 0% (0) Internal ham score (*H*): 1 Internal spam score (*S*): 0 # ham trained on: 2559 # spam trained on: 50 150 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'skip:- 10' 0.000314048 716 0 "i'm" 0.000324465 693 0 'url:html' 0.000605734 371 0 'online:' 0.000989228 227 0 'mailing' 0.00102064 220 0 'data' 0.0011169 201 0 'looking' 0.0011169 201 0 'doing' 0.00131234 171 0 'try' 0.00135993 165 0 'having' 0.0014111 159 0 'copy' 0.00161348 139 0 'files' 0.00161348 139 0 'file' 0.00173812 129 0 ... 'message' 0.151436 288 1 'bug,' 0.155172 1 0 'bug.' 0.155172 1 0 'environment?' 0.155172 1 0 'outgrowth' 0.155172 1 0 'similar,' 0.155172 1 0 'subscribing' 0.155172 1 0 'this!' 0.155172 1 0 'from:no real name:2**0' 0.832851 112 11 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.847284 331 36 'free' 0.849132 399 44 'outlook' 0.871205 6 1 'found' 0.874777 321 44 'release' 0.88574 289 44 'subject:list' 0.892519 1 1 'checked' 0.893433 267 44 'subject:your' 0.895863 34 6 'skip:- 20' 0.896145 10 2 'virus' 0.897327 256 44 'message.' 0.897683 255 44 'edition.' 0.898039 254 44 'database:' 0.90341 239 44 'incoming' 0.90377 238 44 'avg' 0.904131 237 44 'version:' 0.904131 237 44 '7.5.484' 0.973205 57 44 '269.13.1/982' 0.993582 2 39 '31-aug-07' 0.993582 2 39 '5:21' 0.993582 2 39 How is that possible 2 similar token list, and one of them gets %45, the other is %0 ? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Training-problem-tf4365445.html#a12444168 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070901/e810cf7c/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Sun Sep 2 03:50:13 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:50:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Training problem In-Reply-To: <12444168.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <12443030.post@talk.nabble.com> <12444168.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <18138.5845.881569.694297@montanaro.dyndns.org> kudret> # ham trained on: 2559 kudret> # spam trained on: 48 Looks very imbalanced. We usually see the imbalance in the other direction (lots of spam, few ham), but this far out of whack in either direction might present problems. I suggest you clear your database out completely and start from scratch. Train a couple hams, then a couple spams. Rescore everything. Train on a couple mistakes or unsures of each type. Rescore the rest. kudret> How is that possible 2 similar token list, and one of them gets kudret> %45, the other is %0 ? So many hammy tokens in the second message outweigh the few spammy tokens. In the first message the relative number of hammy and spammy tokens is more balanced, thus the overall score is nearer to the middle. Skip From kudret at hotpop.com Sun Sep 2 05:19:18 2007 From: kudret at hotpop.com (kudret) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Training problem In-Reply-To: <18138.5845.881569.694297@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <12443030.post@talk.nabble.com> <12444168.post@talk.nabble.com> <18138.5845.881569.694297@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <12446072.post@talk.nabble.com> smontanaro wrote: > > > kudret> # ham trained on: 2559 > kudret> # spam trained on: 48 > > Looks very imbalanced. We usually see the imbalance in the other > direction > (lots of spam, few ham), but this far out of whack in either direction > might > present problems. I suggest you clear your database out completely and > start from scratch. Train a couple hams, then a couple spams. Rescore > everything. Train on a couple mistakes or unsures of each type. Rescore > the rest. > > kudret> How is that possible 2 similar token list, and one of them > gets > kudret> %45, the other is %0 ? > > So many hammy tokens in the second message outweigh the few spammy tokens. > In the first message the relative number of hammy and spammy tokens is > more > balanced, thus the overall score is nearer to the middle. > I'm not keeping my spam emails (I don't see any point doing this), permanently delete all of them. When I cleared the database and start training from scratch this imbalanced situation occured. It's certainly not the problem here. Besides, my 2nd question was "how can get a spammer list?" In another words, instead of waiting for weeks to build a spam database, there has to be a table somewhere to download and save a lot of time. If you look at my 2 sample reports, both doesn't have any problem with original email part. At the bottom, I forgot to mention this, you will see AVG virus check report. This part somehow shows some spam tokens. First of all, this should not be considered as spam and 2nd both reports look the same, should not be so different results. And 3rd, like I said at the beginning, if my friend sends me 2 emails in same day. When I check my emails, they are going to junk folder. This does not make any sense. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Training-problem-tf4365445.html#a12446072 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From skip at pobox.com Sun Sep 2 05:48:10 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:48:10 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Training problem In-Reply-To: <12446072.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <12443030.post@talk.nabble.com> <12444168.post@talk.nabble.com> <18138.5845.881569.694297@montanaro.dyndns.org> <12446072.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <18138.12922.188357.713877@montanaro.dyndns.org> kudret> I'm not keeping my spam emails (I don't see any point doing kudret> this), permanently delete all of them. You don't need to keep them. Train as spam, then delete. kudret> Besides, my 2nd question was "how can get a spammer list?" In kudret> another words, instead of waiting for weeks to build a spam kudret> database, there has to be a table somewhere to download and save kudret> a lot of time. Sorry, I didn't see that. I generally have to wait about 2 hours for sufficient spams. Today's not quite over yet and I've received about 250 spams. If you have to wait weeks to receive enough spams to offset the hams you're training on, then I recommend you simply uninstall SpamBayes. You don't have a spam problem. ;-) Seriously, start from scratch. Everything will score as unsure. As new messages arrive, only train on those messages which are clearly mistakes (spam scored as ham or ham scored as spam) or those which score as unsure. Keep your ham and spam thresholds at the defaults, at least to start (something like 0.2 and 0.7 I think). Don't train on any messages which are properly classified. Try that for a bit and see if performance improves. kudret> If you look at my 2 sample reports, both doesn't have any kudret> problem with original email part. At the bottom, I forgot to kudret> mention this, you will see AVG virus check report. This part kudret> somehow shows some spam tokens. First of all, this should not kudret> be considered as spam and 2nd both reports look the same, should kudret> not be so different results. And 3rd, like I said at the kudret> beginning, if my friend sends me 2 emails in same day. When I kudret> check my emails, they are going to junk folder. This does not kudret> make any sense. Sorry, I no longer have your previous message to refer to, so I can't really recall what your first, second or third messages are. I still think your imbalanced training is going to create problems. Skip From keith at syncopator.com Sun Sep 2 18:26:40 2007 From: keith at syncopator.com (Keith Doyle) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues on Unix? Message-ID: <200709021626.l82GQeYl042780@cutter.rexx.com> Had noticed in a recent thread on training problems that there appears to be a utility in the Outlook version of SpamBayes that allows you to examine the clues that spambayes used on a given message to decide how to classify it. I was wondering if there's a Unix command-line equivalent that I can use to check to see how a message is treated... Spambayes has been working pretty great for me actually, I use a .procmail filter and it never misclassifies ham as spam, I only get spam misclassified as ham or unsure-- which is exactly how I want it. However, I have noticed some very short spam messages of late that seem to be resistant to training-- probably simply *because* they are so short there's not enough to go on, but I was curious as to how they are viewed in SpamBayes and a utility to let me know a little more-- a more "verbose" mode when training or running just the classifier with a verbose flag or something could be useful... Before I used spambayes I had a filter of my own design-- was tired of maintaining it though. It did allow me to add rules like "if the message is fewer than X English words, then it's likely SPAM." which would have weeded out most of this stuff that seems to be getting past SpamBayes... If anyone knows of any reporting aids that exist in the Unix version, I'd appreciate a "clue" to their whereabouts... -- Sync From skip at pobox.com Sun Sep 2 20:23:46 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:23:46 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues on Unix? In-Reply-To: <200709021626.l82GQeYl042780@cutter.rexx.com> References: <200709021626.l82GQeYl042780@cutter.rexx.com> Message-ID: <18138.65458.534100.111091@montanaro.dyndns.org> Keith> Had noticed in a recent thread on training problems that there Keith> appears to be a utility in the Outlook version of SpamBayes that Keith> allows you to examine the clues that spambayes used on a given Keith> message to decide how to classify it. I was wondering if there's Keith> a Unix command-line equivalent that I can use to check to see how Keith> a message is treated... Just run the message through sb_filter.py with your include_evidence set to true: sb_filter.py -o Headers:include_evidence:True < some-mail-message The output will be the message along with an X-SpamBayes-Evidence header similar to this: X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 0.69; '*S*': 0.00; 'changed': 0.05; 'owner': 0.07; 'response.': 0.09; 'dire': 0.16; 'matter.': 0.16; 'sure': 0.16; 'funds': 0.20; 'might': 0.23; 'friend,': 0.25; 'received:206': 0.25; 'source': 0.25; 'south': 0.25; 'those': 0.27; 'sending': 0.31; 'well': 0.31; 'these': 0.32; 'choose': 0.32; 'content': 0.32; 'husband': 0.32; 'mail.': 0.32; 'president': 0.32; 'help': 0.33; 'hear': 0.33; 'which': 0.35; 'would': 0.36; 'under': 0.36; 'ask': 0.37; 'him': 0.37; 'longer': 0.37; 'soon': 0.37; 'mail': 0.38; 'further': 0.39; 'content-type:text/html': 0.61; 'your': 0.62; 'becoming': 0.62; 'his': 0.62; 'personal': 0.62; 'our': 0.63; 'come': 0.65; 'friends': 0.65; 'reach': 0.65; 'best': 0.68; 'disclose': 0.84; 'earnings': 0.84; 'finances': 0.84; 'detail': 0.93 Keith> ... I have noticed some very short spam messages of late that Keith> seem to be resistant to training-- probably simply *because* they Keith> are so short there's not enough to go on, Precisely. You'll see they generate very few tokens. Skip From amedee at amedee.be Mon Sep 3 13:08:08 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:08:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues on Unix? In-Reply-To: <18138.65458.534100.111091@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <200709021626.l82GQeYl042780@cutter.rexx.com> <18138.65458.534100.111091@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <31692.193.121.250.194.1188817688.squirrel@amedee.be> On Sun, September 2, 2007 20:23, skip at pobox.com wrote: > Just run the message through sb_filter.py with your include_evidence set > to > true: > > sb_filter.py -o Headers:include_evidence:True < some-mail-message I have the same setup as Keith, and I was also looking for this. Seems I was looking in the wrong places. Thank you, Skip. -- Amedee From brgentry at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 19:22:11 2007 From: brgentry at gmail.com (brgentry) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:22:11 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved Message-ID: <000301c7ee4e$f7caa0a0$6601a8c0@toolwirebrettg> When first opening Outlook for the day, SpamBayes works fine for the first few minutes, then it stops moving recognized spam into the Junk folder. I think it's timing out. The emails that don't get moved show up with significant spam ratings like, 100%. My filter is set to move things above 10% and I have tried all sorts of variations on that theme from 1% to 100%. I get lots of emails (often 100+ when I first open Outlook) and have lots of Outlook rules (40+) so I am thinking there may just be a timeout at some point and SpamBayes just stops working. I have disabled most of my spam related rules (goal is to disable all of them) but still have my routing rules on. Windows XP Pro (fully patched) SpamBayes ver 1.0.4 all files in SpamBayes folder attached Thanks--hope this helps you guys too, Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070903/a5964617/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of brgentry Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2007 3:22 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved When first opening Outlook for the day, SpamBayes works fine for the first few minutes, then it stops moving recognized spam into the Junk folder. I think it's timing out. The emails that don't get moved show up with significant spam ratings like, 100%. My filter is set to move things above 10% and I have tried all sorts of variations on that theme from 1% to 100%. I get lots of emails (often 100+ when I first open Outlook) and have lots of Outlook rules (40+) so I am thinking there may just be a timeout at some point and SpamBayes just stops working. I have disabled most of my spam related rules (goal is to disable all of them) but still have my routing rules on. Windows XP Pro (fully patched) SpamBayes ver 1.0.4 all files in SpamBayes folder attached Thanks--hope this helps you guys too, Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070904/010893d1/attachment.htm From brgentry at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 17:18:14 2007 From: brgentry at gmail.com (brgentry) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:18:14 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved In-Reply-To: <00ba01c7eeaa$6e907380$4bb15a80$@com.au> References: <000301c7ee4e$f7caa0a0$6601a8c0@toolwirebrettg> <00ba01c7eeaa$6e907380$4bb15a80$@com.au> Message-ID: <000601c7ef06$d138a0a0$6501a8c0@toolwirebrettg> Good point. Thanks. _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:17 PM To: 'brgentry'; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved Please send us your latest log file too - see the FAQ for details on how to find that. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of brgentry Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2007 3:22 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved When first opening Outlook for the day, SpamBayes works fine for the first few minutes, then it stops moving recognized spam into the Junk folder. I think it's timing out. The emails that don't get moved show up with significant spam ratings like, 100%. My filter is set to move things above 10% and I have tried all sorts of variations on that theme from 1% to 100%. I get lots of emails (often 100+ when I first open Outlook) and have lots of Outlook rules (40+) so I am thinking there may just be a timeout at some point and SpamBayes just stops working. I have disabled most of my spam related rules (goal is to disable all of them) but still have my routing rules on. Windows XP Pro (fully patched) SpamBayes ver 1.0.4 all files in SpamBayes folder attached Thanks--hope this helps you guys too, Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070904/7b3605c1/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Keith Willig Landscape Architect Keith Willig Landscape Architecture 885 Santa Cruz Ave, Suite D Menlo Park, CA 94025 T: 650.326.2294 F: 650.326.2293 E: keith at keithwilliglandscape.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070904/81f7c3ec/attachment.htm From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Sep 5 01:04:18 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:04:18 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved In-Reply-To: <000601c7ef06$d138a0a0$6501a8c0@toolwirebrettg> References: <000301c7ee4e$f7caa0a0$6601a8c0@toolwirebrettg> <00ba01c7eeaa$6e907380$4bb15a80$@com.au> <000601c7ef06$d138a0a0$6501a8c0@toolwirebrettg> Message-ID: <019401c7ef47$f019d610$d04d8230$@com.au> The log doesn't look particularly unusual. I did however notice entries: Training on message 'elmdheid' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'Citizens Bank: client details confirmation!' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'AUTHENTIC VIAGRA AND CIALIS' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'Fw: Thanks, we accepted your company application' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'Sept 4th Update' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'Apply 70% discounts on Adobe Software ' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Most of those look very much like Spam, so its not clear why they are being trained as good - it implies something is going a little wrong, and if nothing else, such spam will eventually be marked as good, and will not be processed into your spam folders. Near the end of the log I see: Moving and spam training message 'RE: Official Site' - Training on message 'RE: Official Site' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Support/Registrations - trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'RE: Official Site' - Training on message 'RE: Official Site' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Support - trained as spam Its not clear if these really are spam or not. I'd review your configuration of spambayes. If that doesn't offer any clues, then I'd wait until spambayes starts misbehaving as you describe, then send us the logs as soon as possible after you notice - ideally indicating the subject of a message that arrived around the same time. We can then review the log for strange things. Cheers, Mark From: brgentry [mailto:brgentry at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2007 1:18 AM To: 'Mark Hammond'; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved Good point. Thanks. _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:17 PM To: 'brgentry'; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved Please send us your latest log file too - see the FAQ for details on how to find that. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of brgentry Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2007 3:22 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved When first opening Outlook for the day, SpamBayes works fine for the first few minutes, then it stops moving recognized spam into the Junk folder. I think it's timing out. The emails that don't get moved show up with significant spam ratings like, 100%. My filter is set to move things above 10% and I have tried all sorts of variations on that theme from 1% to 100%. I get lots of emails (often 100+ when I first open Outlook) and have lots of Outlook rules (40+) so I am thinking there may just be a timeout at some point and SpamBayes just stops working. I have disabled most of my spam related rules (goal is to disable all of them) but still have my routing rules on. Windows XP Pro (fully patched) SpamBayes ver 1.0.4 all files in SpamBayes folder attached Thanks--hope this helps you guys too, Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070905/87ea7359/attachment.htm From brgentry at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 01:09:58 2007 From: brgentry at gmail.com (brgentry) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:09:58 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved In-Reply-To: <019401c7ef47$f019d610$d04d8230$@com.au> References: <000301c7ee4e$f7caa0a0$6601a8c0@toolwirebrettg> <00ba01c7eeaa$6e907380$4bb15a80$@com.au> <000601c7ef06$d138a0a0$6501a8c0@toolwirebrettg> <019401c7ef47$f019d610$d04d8230$@com.au> Message-ID: <001a01c7ef48$b71d4120$6501a8c0@toolwirebrettg> Great! Thank you! I think what you point out is quite good. I should be able to diagnose further and if it is not PEBKAM then I will let you know. _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:04 PM To: 'brgentry'; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved The log doesn't look particularly unusual. I did however notice entries: Training on message 'elmdheid' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'Citizens Bank: client details confirmation!' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'AUTHENTIC VIAGRA AND CIALIS' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'Fw: Thanks, we accepted your company application' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'Sept 4th Update' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Training on message 'Apply 70% discounts on Adobe Software ' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Junk E-mail - trained as good Most of those look very much like Spam, so its not clear why they are being trained as good - it implies something is going a little wrong, and if nothing else, such spam will eventually be marked as good, and will not be processed into your spam folders. Near the end of the log I see: Moving and spam training message 'RE: Official Site' - Training on message 'RE: Official Site' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Support/Registrations - trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'RE: Official Site' - Training on message 'RE: Official Site' in 'Mailbox - Brett Gentry/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Support - trained as spam Its not clear if these really are spam or not. I'd review your configuration of spambayes. If that doesn't offer any clues, then I'd wait until spambayes starts misbehaving as you describe, then send us the logs as soon as possible after you notice - ideally indicating the subject of a message that arrived around the same time. We can then review the log for strange things. Cheers, Mark From: brgentry [mailto:brgentry at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2007 1:18 AM To: 'Mark Hammond'; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved Good point. Thanks. _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:17 PM To: 'brgentry'; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved Please send us your latest log file too - see the FAQ for details on how to find that. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of brgentry Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2007 3:22 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Recognized spam not being moved When first opening Outlook for the day, SpamBayes works fine for the first few minutes, then it stops moving recognized spam into the Junk folder. I think it's timing out. The emails that don't get moved show up with significant spam ratings like, 100%. My filter is set to move things above 10% and I have tried all sorts of variations on that theme from 1% to 100%. I get lots of emails (often 100+ when I first open Outlook) and have lots of Outlook rules (40+) so I am thinking there may just be a timeout at some point and SpamBayes just stops working. I have disabled most of my spam related rules (goal is to disable all of them) but still have my routing rules on. Windows XP Pro (fully patched) SpamBayes ver 1.0.4 all files in SpamBayes folder attached Thanks--hope this helps you guys too, Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070904/e40c4363/attachment.htm From customerservice at healthfusion.com Wed Sep 5 04:57:33 2007 From: customerservice at healthfusion.com (Customer Service) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:57:33 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] how to uninstall Message-ID: <000801c7ef68$8225c8a0$6501a8c0@ibmlaptop> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070904/041ed3b7/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Wed Sep 5 13:28:54 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:28:54 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Recover Deleted Emails In-Reply-To: <00a101c7ef1b$98bb0fa0$6401a8c0@KWLSGateway> References: <00a101c7ef1b$98bb0fa0$6401a8c0@KWLSGateway> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905DF2AD3@PKCVT01.pkc.com> See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#some-of-my-mail-is-going-missi ng. SpamBayes does not delete messages. It also has neither a tools menu nor an "auto recover" button, so I suspect that you found them mentioned in the Outlook help system, though I don't find anything about an auto recover buttons in my version of Outlook's help. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Keith Willig Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:47 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Recover Deleted Emails The Spambayes filter automatically deleted emails I want to keep and I want to know how to recover it or where it is stored at. I have been using the help menu (F1) and it mentioned the "auto recover" button under the tools menu, but I don't have that button in that menu. Please give me some advice. Thank you. Keith Willig Landscape Architect Keith Willig Landscape Architecture 885 Santa Cruz Ave, Suite D Menlo Park, CA 94025 T: 650.326.2294 F: 650.326.2293 E: keith at keithwilliglandscape.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070905/3d8470b3/attachment.htm From jloveland at relparts.com Fri Sep 7 21:40:13 2007 From: jloveland at relparts.com (Jimmbo) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <000001c7e3c2$47d85930$d7890b90$@net> References: <000001c7e3c2$47d85930$d7890b90$@net> Message-ID: <12562030.post@talk.nabble.com> You have to unload Outlook Business Contact Manager and it works fine. Mike Eveloff wrote: > > Having a problem using Spambayes and Outlook 2007. > > > > I am seeing this message on startup: "Outlook experienced a serious > problem > with the 'spambayes' add-in." > > > > The log file contains: > > Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\me \Application > Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' > > Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ me \Application > Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' > > Bayes database initialized with 0 spam and 0 good messages > > SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with > engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) > > on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) > > using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit > (Intel)] > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/outlook-2007-tf4303416.html#a12562030 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kudret at hotpop.com Sat Sep 8 04:17:43 2007 From: kudret at hotpop.com (kudret) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Training problem In-Reply-To: <12443030.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <12443030.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <12566097.post@talk.nabble.com> So far only Skip tried to help me, but he just tried, couldn't help at all. I'm back square one. My friends' emails were going to junk folder. I thought may be I should start from scratch. Then everything started to stay in inbox or going to junk folder. Then I opened this topic. After a week or something all spam emails are going to spam folder again, this is good. BUUUUUT my friends' emails are still going to junk folder. Everyday I am recovering them, again again and again. This is not correct ! Specially my girl friend's emails are going to junk folder. This is totally sucks! Heeeelp -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Training-problem-tf4365445.html#a12566097 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From keithtaub at bellsouth.net Mon Sep 10 09:19:36 2007 From: keithtaub at bellsouth.net (keithtaub at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:19:36 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about SpamBayes Message-ID: <00d401c7f37a$f21f5d90$6601a8c0@OWNER9ZL0ODNIA> I run an internet marketing company. I want to use SpamBayes to assist my opt-in email users to send cleaner emails that have a better chance of getting delivered. Do you offer a product that runs off a web form or an application that can grade an email message based on its content and subject line and show where the message weaknesses lie? If you do not offer such a thing, can you direct me in the right direction? Thank you. Keith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070910/0fd5009c/attachment.htm From andreww at datanet.ab.ca Mon Sep 10 11:06:23 2007 From: andreww at datanet.ab.ca (Andrew Warkentin) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:06:23 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about SpamBayes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46E5090F.5040103@datanet.ab.ca> keithtaub at bellsouth.net wrote: > I run an internet marketing company. I want to use SpamBayes to > assist my opt-in email users to send cleaner emails that have a better > chance of getting delivered. Do you offer a product that runs off a > web form or an application that can grade an email message based on > its content and subject line and show where the message weaknesses lie? > > If you do not offer such a thing, can you direct me in the right > direction? > > Thank you. > > Keith > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > That's not the way a statistical filter works. The weaknesses of a particular message depend entirely on what messages a particular user has trained as ham and spam, and are in no way consistent between installations of SpamBayes. From jsp at PKC.com Mon Sep 10 14:55:22 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:55:22 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Training problem In-Reply-To: <12566097.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <12443030.post@talk.nabble.com> <12566097.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905DF3222@PKCVT01.pkc.com> IF you're using the Outlook plug-in, AND you're deliberately and correctly distinguishing between a spam folder and a junk folder, THEN I would guess that Outlook is putting your friends' messages in the junk folder, not SpamBayes. If you're using one of the 1.1 alphas, you can set up SpamBayes to filter messages that Outlook puts into its junk folder and move them to your inbox or spam folder as appropriate. Older versions of SpamBayes cannot move ham, so any ham that Outlook misclassifies will remain in the junk folder. If I've totally missed the mark, please provide more information, such as (at a minimum) which flavor and version of SpamBayes you're using. I wouldn't discount Skip's assistance. If your training database is still seriously imbalanced, that could be part of the problem. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of kudret Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:18 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Training problem So far only Skip tried to help me, but he just tried, couldn't help at all. I'm back square one. My friends' emails were going to junk folder. I thought may be I should start from scratch. Then everything started to stay in inbox or going to junk folder. Then I opened this topic. After a week or something all spam emails are going to spam folder again, this is good. BUUUUUT my friends' emails are still going to junk folder. Everyday I am recovering them, again again and again. This is not correct ! Specially my girl friend's emails are going to junk folder. This is totally sucks! Heeeelp -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Training-problem-tf4365445.html#a12566097 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From hray.crum at att.net Tue Sep 11 05:38:37 2007 From: hray.crum at att.net (Ray Crumrine) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:38:37 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about SpamBayes Message-ID: <46E60DBD.2020700@att.net> I was wondering what the status of v 1.1a4 release might be. I noticed that it supports SSL but it has been quite a while since the alpha release came out. Any chance we might get the permanent release for Windows? Thanks, Ray Crumrine From skip at pobox.com Tue Sep 11 15:11:49 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:11:49 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <46E60DBD.2020700@att.net> References: <46E60DBD.2020700@att.net> Message-ID: <18150.37909.618681.8412@montanaro.dyndns.org> Ray> I was wondering what the status of v 1.1a4 release might be. I Ray> noticed that it supports SSL but it has been quite a while since Ray> the alpha release came out. Any chance we might get the permanent Ray> release for Windows? Just a matter of not enough round tuits I believe. Skip From ariana at autoaccessid.com Tue Sep 11 18:18:41 2007 From: ariana at autoaccessid.com (Ariana) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:18:41 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Spambayes Message-ID: <000001c7f48f$6f099c70$6c01a8c0@ACT> I'm using Windows XP and Spambayes AntiSpam Classifier and I read the trouble-shooting guide. 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Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070912/91308eb4/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Wed Sep 12 15:44:36 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:44:36 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes In-Reply-To: <469718.67410.qm@web1001.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <469718.67410.qm@web1001.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BDD4@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I don't think there's a way to kill Outlook's filtering altogether. I use a 1.1 alpha version of SpamBayes to work around this. The alphas allow you to tell SpamBayes to move ham as well as spam. I set up SpamBayes to move certain spam and possible spam into folders that I create for the purpose and move ham into my inbox. I have it filter the Outlook junk and junk candidates folders in addition to my inbox. Outlook does its filtering and then SpamBayes overrides it. Inelegant and inefficient (Microsoft's fault, not SpamBayes') but effective. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Cushman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I have a windows vista machine running outlook 2007. Spam Bayes seems to work fine, but my outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter - even in the off mode - seems to be doing the same kind of "work" as spam bayes. Thus, very little spam makes it into my spam bucket. Naturally, I prefer spambayes to do my spam filtering. Can you add to your faq - or send me the answer - on how to truly turn the Outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter off? Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070912/986a720f/attachment.htm From newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Wed Sep 12 16:11:36 2007 From: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de (Peter Flindt) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:11:36 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 References: <000001c7e3c2$47d85930$d7890b90$@net> Message-ID: Hello, I hate it to open new postings for similiar questiens, therefore... For the users from 1.0.4 with OL2007/Vista: -really? It works? I used it long time ago, and I never looked at the startup about "Outlook not close properly, I scan the files now...". This lasted only a few seconds and was never a problem. But yesterday Outlook found something and I lost some Mails. I have a backup, this was not a big problem, but whatever, what is the trick that Outlook close properly with this spambayes version? What about the new beta versions from Spambayes? How can I install them? Peter From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu Sep 13 01:07:53 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:07:53 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Error In-Reply-To: <46E521CF00075962@mail18.bluewin.ch> (added by postmaster@bluewin.ch) References: <46E521CF00075962@mail18.bluewin.ch> (added by postmaster@bluewin.ch) Message-ID: <01be01c7f591$c3dfb6f0$4b9f24d0$@com.au> The screenshot shows a dialog telling you that your database is corrupt and you must retrain from the Spambayes Manager. So, select the Spambayes Manager, select the "training" tab, select the "Rebuild entire database" option, and retrain. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces+mhammond=keypoint.com.au at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces+mhammond=keypoint.com.au at python.org] On > Behalf Of Cyrus Gross > Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2007 7:07 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Error > > Hello, > > i send you a Screenshot from a Error, are you working on this ? > > thxs and greetings from Switzerland From thatguy at kevinyank.com Thu Sep 13 04:04:31 2007 From: thatguy at kevinyank.com (Kevin Yank) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:04:31 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Filter error Message-ID: <46E89AAF.2010703@kevinyank.com> I've just set up the SpamBayes IMAP Filter on my Windows Vista machine (Python 2.5.1 + pywin32 extensions) according to the instructions at http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/HowToUseImapFilter. The Web admin interface works, but when I try to run the IMAP Filter daemon I get the following error: c:\Python25\Scripts>python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v -l 10 SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.6 (January 2005) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading database C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db...Load ing state from C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db database C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db is an existing database , with 0 spam and 0 ham Done. Training Training ham folder SpamBayes/Train as Not Junk *Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 947, in run() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 933, in run imap_filter.Train() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 766, in Train num_ham_trained = folder.Train(self.classifier, False) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 686, in Train for msg in self: File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 613, in __iter__ yield self[key] File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 662, in __getitem__ msg.Save() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 547, in Save self.id.replace('\\',r'\\').replace('"',r'\"'))) File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 752, in uid typ, dat = self._simple_command(name, command, *args) File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 1055, in _simple_command return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 892, in _command_complete raise self.error('%s command error: %s %s' % (name, typ, data)) imaplib.error: UID command error: BAD ['parse error: unindexed header: X-SPAMBAY ES-MAILID'] Any hints? -- Kevin Yank From mcushman at jasint.com Thu Sep 13 14:57:52 2007 From: mcushman at jasint.com (Mark Cushman) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BDD4@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <705475.48353.qm@web1001.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I copied your approach; Filtering Inbox and JunkMail. It seems to work fine. My next gripe would be to not have the [SPAM] tag.... Overall, it seems to work ok. Thanks for the suggestion. Jesse Pelton wrote: I don't think there's a way to kill Outlook's filtering altogether. I use a 1.1 alpha version of SpamBayes to work around this. The alphas allow you to tell SpamBayes to move ham as well as spam. I set up SpamBayes to move certain spam and possible spam into folders that I create for the purpose and move ham into my inbox. I have it filter the Outlook junk and junk candidates folders in addition to my inbox. Outlook does its filtering and then SpamBayes overrides it. Inelegant and inefficient (Microsoft's fault, not SpamBayes') but effective. --------------------------------- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Cushman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I have a windows vista machine running outlook 2007. Spam Bayes seems to work fine, but my outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter - even in the off mode - seems to be doing the same kind of "work" as spam bayes. Thus, very little spam makes it into my spam bucket. Naturally, I prefer spambayes to do my spam filtering. Can you add to your faq - or send me the answer - on how to truly turn the Outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter off? Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070913/944a9963/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Thu Sep 13 15:15:43 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:15:43 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Filter error In-Reply-To: <46E89AAF.2010703@kevinyank.com> References: <46E89AAF.2010703@kevinyank.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFED@PKCVT01.pkc.com> The reported version numbers and dates are somewhat alarming, indicating pre-release software. Did you download 1.0.4? See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/download.html. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Yank Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:05 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Filter error I've just set up the SpamBayes IMAP Filter on my Windows Vista machine (Python 2.5.1 + pywin32 extensions) according to the instructions at http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/HowToUseImapFilter. The Web admin interface works, but when I try to run the IMAP Filter daemon I get the following error: c:\Python25\Scripts>python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v -l 10 SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.6 (January 2005) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading database C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db...Load ing state from C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db database C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db is an existing database , with 0 spam and 0 ham Done. Training Training ham folder SpamBayes/Train as Not Junk *Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 947, in run() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 933, in run imap_filter.Train() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 766, in Train num_ham_trained = folder.Train(self.classifier, False) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 686, in Train for msg in self: File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 613, in __iter__ yield self[key] File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 662, in __getitem__ msg.Save() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 547, in Save self.id.replace('\\',r'\\').replace('"',r'\"'))) File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 752, in uid typ, dat = self._simple_command(name, command, *args) File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 1055, in _simple_command return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 892, in _command_complete raise self.error('%s command error: %s %s' % (name, typ, data)) imaplib.error: UID command error: BAD ['parse error: unindexed header: X-SPAMBAY ES-MAILID'] Any hints? -- Kevin Yank _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From jsp at PKC.com Thu Sep 13 15:32:53 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:32:53 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes In-Reply-To: <705475.48353.qm@web1001.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BDD4@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <705475.48353.qm@web1001.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFFD@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Thanks for the feedback. I often wonder how my messages will fare when I send them out into the wide world with a lunch box and a bus ticket. It's good to know when one has been able to do some good work. I don't understand what you mean by "to not have the [SPAM] tag." Could you send a screen shot showing what you want to get rid of? I have a "Spam" column in Outlook's message list, but I think I had to go through a manual process to create it. ________________________________ From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:58 AM To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I copied your approach; Filtering Inbox and JunkMail. It seems to work fine. My next gripe would be to not have the [SPAM] tag.... Overall, it seems to work ok. Thanks for the suggestion. Jesse Pelton wrote: I don't think there's a way to kill Outlook's filtering altogether. I use a 1.1 alpha version of SpamBayes to work around this. The alphas allow you to tell SpamBayes to move ham as well as spam. I set up SpamBayes to move certain spam and possible spam into folders that I create for the purpose and move ham into my inbox. I have it filter the Outlook junk and junk candidates folders in addition to my inbox. Outlook does its filtering and then SpamBayes overrides it. Inelegant and inefficient (Microsoft's fault, not SpamBayes') but effective. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Cushman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I have a windows vista machine running outlook 2007. Spam Bayes seems to work fine, but my outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter - even in the off mode - seems to be doing the same kind of "work" as spam bayes. Thus, very little spam makes it into my spam bucket. Naturally, I prefer spambayes to do my spam filtering. Can you add to your faq - or send me the answer - on how to truly turn the Outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter off? Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070913/ba2a9c60/attachment.htm From brentm at seatadvisor.com Thu Sep 13 22:57:34 2007 From: brentm at seatadvisor.com (Brent Miller) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] error in loading Spambayes In-Reply-To: <000001c7e4d0$24f05850$6ed108f0$@com> References: <000001c7e4d0$24f05850$6ed108f0$@com> Message-ID: <12663398.post@talk.nabble.com> Did you find a fix for this? We have the same problem here. Vincent Chaillou wrote: > > Cannot load spambayes with Vista and Office 2007 Outlook, > > > > Outlook crash immediately and recover if we disable outlook addin > > > > Please let me know of any fixes > > > > Vincent Chaillou > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/error-in-loading-Spambayes-tf4312452.html#a12663398 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From thatguy at kevinyank.com Thu Sep 13 23:18:02 2007 From: thatguy at kevinyank.com (Kevin Yank) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:18:02 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Filter error In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFED@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <46E89AAF.2010703@kevinyank.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFED@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <46E9A90A.7080500@kevinyank.com> Yes, I downloaded the spambayes-1.0.4.zip source distribution from SourceForge, dated 2005-03-22. Jesse Pelton wrote: > The reported version numbers and dates are somewhat alarming, indicating > pre-release software. Did you download 1.0.4? See > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/download.html. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] > On Behalf Of Kevin Yank > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:05 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Filter error > > I've just set up the SpamBayes IMAP Filter on my Windows Vista machine > (Python 2.5.1 + pywin32 extensions) according to the instructions at > http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/HowToUseImapFilter. The Web admin > interface works, but when I try to run the IMAP Filter daemon I get the > following error: > > c:\Python25\Scripts>python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v -l 10 > SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.6 (January 2005) > and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). > > Loading database > C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db...Load > ing state from C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db > database > > C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db is an existing > database > , with 0 spam and 0 ham > Done. > Training > Training ham folder SpamBayes/Train as Not Junk > *Traceback (most recent call last): > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 947, in > run() > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 933, in run > imap_filter.Train() > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 766, in Train > num_ham_trained = folder.Train(self.classifier, False) > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 686, in Train > for msg in self: > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 613, in __iter__ > yield self[key] > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 662, in __getitem__ > msg.Save() > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 547, in Save > self.id.replace('\\',r'\\').replace('"',r'\"'))) > File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 752, in uid > typ, dat = self._simple_command(name, command, *args) > File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 1055, in _simple_command > return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) > File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 892, in _command_complete > raise self.error('%s command error: %s %s' % (name, typ, data)) > imaplib.error: UID command error: BAD ['parse error: unindexed header: > X-SPAMBAY > ES-MAILID'] > > Any hints? > > -- > Kevin Yank > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > From mcushman at jasint.com Fri Sep 14 01:15:41 2007 From: mcushman at jasint.com (Mark Cushman) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFFD@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <707633.25520.qm@web1004.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Office2007's JunkMail filter pre-pends the [SPAM] tag to a subject line when it thinks its Junk. If one moves the email back into Inbox (or anther box), you have to click a button, "Mark Not As Spam". I was able to hide the buttons. Jesse Pelton wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I often wonder how my messages will fare when I send them out into the wide world with a lunch box and a bus ticket. It's good to know when one has been able to do some good work. I don't understand what you mean by "to not have the [SPAM] tag." Could you send a screen shot showing what you want to get rid of? I have a "Spam" column in Outlook's message list, but I think I had to go through a manual process to create it. --------------------------------- From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:58 AM To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I copied your approach; Filtering Inbox and JunkMail. It seems to work fine. My next gripe would be to not have the [SPAM] tag.... Overall, it seems to work ok. Thanks for the suggestion. Jesse Pelton wrote: I don't think there's a way to kill Outlook's filtering altogether. I use a 1.1 alpha version of SpamBayes to work around this. The alphas allow you to tell SpamBayes to move ham as well as spam. I set up SpamBayes to move certain spam and possible spam into folders that I create for the purpose and move ham into my inbox. I have it filter the Outlook junk and junk candidates folders in addition to my inbox. Outlook does its filtering and then SpamBayes overrides it. Inelegant and inefficient (Microsoft's fault, not SpamBayes') but effective. --------------------------------- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Cushman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I have a windows vista machine running outlook 2007. Spam Bayes seems to work fine, but my outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter - even in the off mode - seems to be doing the same kind of "work" as spam bayes. Thus, very little spam makes it into my spam bucket. Naturally, I prefer spambayes to do my spam filtering. Can you add to your faq - or send me the answer - on how to truly turn the Outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter off? Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070913/b282789f/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Fri Sep 14 05:04:05 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:04:05 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Filter error In-Reply-To: <46E9A90A.7080500@kevinyank.com> References: <46E89AAF.2010703@kevinyank.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFED@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <46E9A90A.7080500@kevinyank.com> Message-ID: <18153.64037.389916.203060@montanaro.dyndns.org> Kevin> Yes, I downloaded the spambayes-1.0.4.zip source distribution Kevin> from SourceForge, dated 2005-03-22. Can you please try 1.1a4? It's at least two years newer. Before we dig, dig, dig it would be nice to know if the problem has already been fixed. Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From jsp at PKC.com Fri Sep 14 14:03:38 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:03:38 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes In-Reply-To: <707633.25520.qm@web1004.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFFD@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <707633.25520.qm@web1004.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C217@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Wow. Makes you wonder which is worse, the spam or Outlook's attempts to deal with it. I wish I could help, but I can't. ________________________________ From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:16 PM To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes Office2007's JunkMail filter pre-pends the [SPAM] tag to a subject line when it thinks its Junk. If one moves the email back into Inbox (or anther box), you have to click a button, "Mark Not As Spam". I was able to hide the buttons. Jesse Pelton wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I often wonder how my messages will fare when I send them out into the wide world with a lunch box and a bus ticket. It's good to know when one has been able to do some good work. I don't understand what you mean by "to not have the [SPAM] tag." Could you send a screen shot showing what you want to get rid of? I have a "Spam" column in Outlook's message list, but I think I had to go through a manual process to create it. ________________________________ From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:58 AM To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I copied your approach; Filtering Inbox and JunkMail. It seems to work fine. My next gripe would be to not have the [SPAM] tag.... Overall, it seems to work ok. Thanks for the suggestion. Jesse Pelton wrote: I don't think there's a way to kill Outlook's filtering altogether. I use a 1.1 alpha version of SpamBayes to work around this. The alphas allow you to tell SpamBayes to move ham as well as spam. I set up SpamBayes to move certain spam and possible spam into folders that I create for the purpose and move ham into my inbox. I have it filter the Outlook junk and junk candidates folders in addition to my inbox. Outlook does its filtering and then SpamBayes overrides it. Inelegant and inefficient (Microsoft's fault, not SpamBayes') but effective. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Cushman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I have a windows vista machine running outlook 2007. Spam Bayes seems to work fine, but my outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter - even in the off mode - seems to be doing the same kind of "work" as spam bayes. Thus, very little spam makes it into my spam bucket. Naturally, I prefer spambayes to do my spam filtering. Can you add to your faq - or send me the answer - on how to truly turn the Outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter off? Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070914/10e39a03/attachment.htm From listreader at xs4all.nl Fri Sep 14 18:25:41 2007 From: listreader at xs4all.nl (List Reader) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:25:41 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C217@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFFD@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <707633.25520.qm@web1004.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C217@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: Are you quite sure about that? Running Office 2007 here (and outlook), and never ever noticed the [SPAM] (well - actually I did, that was my ISP before I managed to disable that) - at least on my machine, Outlook 2007 does NOT do that.. (and yes.. it *is* handling the SPAM for me (more or less acceptable), since I cannot get SpamBayes to work (w/ OLK2k7 under XP)).. so are you sure your ISP (or your antivirus program? Trend Micro Internet security has (or at least used to have) an option (apart from a COM add-in) to annotate the subject w/ [SPAM]) is not interfering? Oops.. reaction to wrong person (sorry about that) - but still to the list, so probably not a problem after all. Regards, John lots john --- saybibi(); //john #include From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton Sent: Friday, 14 September, 2007 14:04 To: mcushman at jasint.com; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes Wow. Makes you wonder which is worse, the spam or Outlook's attempts to deal with it. I wish I could help, but I can't. _____ From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:16 PM To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes Office2007's JunkMail filter pre-pends the [SPAM] tag to a subject line when it thinks its Junk. If one moves the email back into Inbox (or anther box), you have to click a button, "Mark Not As Spam". I was able to hide the buttons. Jesse Pelton wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I often wonder how my messages will fare when I send them out into the wide world with a lunch box and a bus ticket. It's good to know when one has been able to do some good work. I don't understand what you mean by "to not have the [SPAM] tag." Could you send a screen shot showing what you want to get rid of? I have a "Spam" column in Outlook's message list, but I think I had to go through a manual process to create it. _____ From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:58 AM To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I copied your approach; Filtering Inbox and JunkMail. It seems to work fine. My next gripe would be to not have the [SPAM] tag.... Overall, it seems to work ok. Thanks for the suggestion. Jesse Pelton wrote: I don't think there's a way to kill Outlook's filtering altogether. I use a 1.1 alpha version of SpamBayes to work around this. The alphas allow you to tell SpamBayes to move ham as well as spam. I set up SpamBayes to move certain spam and possible spam into folders that I create for the purpose and move ham into my inbox. I have it filter the Outlook junk and junk candidates folders in addition to my inbox. Outlook does its filtering and then SpamBayes overrides it. Inelegant and inefficient (Microsoft's fault, not SpamBayes') but effective. _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Cushman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes I have a windows vista machine running outlook 2007. Spam Bayes seems to work fine, but my outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter - even in the off mode - seems to be doing the same kind of "work" as spam bayes. Thus, very little spam makes it into my spam bucket. Naturally, I prefer spambayes to do my spam filtering. Can you add to your faq - or send me the answer - on how to truly turn the Outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter off? Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 Mark Cushman, President JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC 240-417-8819 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070914/da2ed43a/attachment.htm From jessica at jessicarobinsonphoto.com Fri Sep 14 20:29:11 2007 From: jessica at jessicarobinsonphoto.com (Jessica Robinson) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:29:11 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for MAC Message-ID: I am running Mac OS 10.3, with microsoft entourage. Can I use Spambayes? Best, Jessica Robinson www.jessicarobinsonphoto.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070914/d4de7285/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Sat Sep 15 00:33:21 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:33:21 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for MAC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18155.3121.230010.304390@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jessica> I am running Mac OS 10.3, with microsoft entourage. Can I use Jessica> Spambayes? Yes, though there is no highly integrated plugin such as the Outlook Plugin. Depending how you fetch your mail, POP or IMAP, you will probably want to use the sb_server.py (POP) or sb_imapfilter.py (IMAP) programs. Both are configured through your web browser. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From rcurry at cfl.rr.com Sat Sep 15 00:22:31 2007 From: rcurry at cfl.rr.com (R. Charles Curry, Jr.) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:22:31 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000001c7f71d$bdeda990$0201a8c0@computer1> Have lost the folder with possible spam. Where do I find it? Not obvious in Outlook? Charlie Curry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070914/bef2971b/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Sat Sep 15 03:48:22 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:48:22 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for MAC In-Reply-To: References: <18155.3121.230010.304390@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <18155.14822.390236.404555@montanaro.dyndns.org> (warning: long response... also, please keep spambayes at python.org in your replies so you get the benefit of the other users' expertise...) Jessica> I may be a bit incompetant here, but I can?t find a link to Jessica> download either one of the things you mentioned. DO you know Jessica> where I can find them? Yes, everything comes in one bundle. Just go here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702&package_id=58141&release_id=518556 and download the "spambayes-1.1a4.tar.gz" package. You may need to expand this manually, though on my Mac using Firefox it just prompted me to open it with Stuffit Expander. That left a folder on my desktop named "spambayes-1.1a4". Now it gets a bit interesting because we don't have an official Mac installer (maybe someday). I don't know how facile you are with the Unix command line. Sorry if this is too basic or too advanced. You need to launch your Terminal app (in Applications>Utilities). When you run it a window will be launched with a prompt ending in a "$". At that prompt type cd ~/Desktop/spambayes-1.1a4 and hit return. This will take you to the expanded SpamBayes distribution. At the next prompt type ls and hit return again. You'll see a list of files in that folder: CHANGELOG.txt README-DEVEL.txt scripts LICENSE.txt README.txt setup.py MANIFEST.in TESTING.txt spambayes NEWTRICKS.txt WHAT_IS_NEW.txt src Outlook2000 contrib testtools PKG-INFO pspam utilities POP3PROXY.txt runtest.sh windows The file setup.py is key here. Type /usr/bin/python setup.py install and hit return. That will install the SpamBayes tools into /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin Let's shorten up the rest of the commands by changing directory to the above folder: cd /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin Now type ./sb_server.py --help You will be rewarded with a hopefully not-to-cryptic help message. Key is the summary of the tool's usage: sb_server.py [options] [ []] It also lists the possible options. The important one is -b : Launch a web browser showing the user interface. A likely command to get things going would be ./sb_server.py -b Your web browser will open up looking at this page: http://localhost:8880/ Click the "Configuration Page" link. Let's assume you normally get your email via POP from pop.comcast.net. Enter pop.comcast.net in the Remote Servers field. Leave the rest of the options alone for now. Next save your configuration (the Save button is at the bottom of the page). Now, return to Entourage. In your account setup instead of telling Entourage to fetch mail from pop.comcast.net you want to tell it to fetch mail from "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" (both without the quotes). Either should work. What you have done is interpose the SpamBayes server between Entourage and your regular POP server: +---------------+ +---------+ +---------+ |pop.comcast.net| <--> |SpamBayes| <--> |Entourage| +---------------+ +---------+ +---------+ SpamBayes will score every message that arrives from your POP server. Initially it won't know anything about your mail preferences, so you have to start classifying those it's seen. Back on the SpamBayes start page (http://localhost:8880/) click the Review messages link. If it has seen some messages you'll be presented with a tabular display which allows you to mark messages individually or in groups as spam or ham. Do that for a few messages. Now we're to the point where I can't help much more since I don't actually use this particular SpamBayes application. I don't actually have any messages to classify. I believe you should be able to rescore everything after classifying just a few spam and ham messages. Hopefully that's enough to get you started. If you wade in but find yourself up to your neck in quicksand, send us another note and someone here can probably guide you along. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Sun Sep 16 15:40:06 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:40:06 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] removal In-Reply-To: <1187717281.9821.49.camel@saruman> References: <114793.92018.qm@web83705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187717281.9821.49.camel@saruman> Message-ID: <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> Amedee> A request for the SpamBayes developers: could you please add a Amedee> FAQ entry that explains how to subscribe, but more important: Amedee> how to UNsubscribe from the mailing list? Done. Thanks for the suggestion. Amedee> On one list, they changed the mailinglist footer. I would Amedee> suggest: Amedee> SpamBayes at python.org Amedee> Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Amedee> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.htm This appears to already be the case for the SpamBayes list (for both digest and non-digest recipients). Skip From jsp at PKC.com Mon Sep 17 14:22:39 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:22:39 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000001c7f71d$bdeda990$0201a8c0@computer1> References: <000001c7f71d$bdeda990$0201a8c0@computer1> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C3AD@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Please see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of R. Charles Curry, Jr. Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 6:23 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Have lost the folder with possible spam. Where do I find it? Not obvious in Outlook? Charlie Curry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070917/fa5b2573/attachment.htm From suzie at blupac.com Tue Sep 18 05:16:27 2007 From: suzie at blupac.com (Suzie Etchart) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:16:27 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Vista Version Message-ID: <145DFF32BAB94FFF8B263782F4BB556D@SuziePC> I have been using your Spam Bayes for several years on my Windows 2000 as well as XP. I now have a laptop with Windows Vista. I really need your program on it and am going to try and download it today. I just thought I'd ask if you think it will work since I did not see any mention of it on your website? Thanks for a response. Suzie Etchart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070917/5f545f9b/attachment.htm From thatguy at kevinyank.com Tue Sep 18 07:35:55 2007 From: thatguy at kevinyank.com (Kevin Yank) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:35:55 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Filter error In-Reply-To: <18153.64037.389916.203060@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <46E89AAF.2010703@kevinyank.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFED@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <46E9A90A.7080500@kevinyank.com> <18153.64037.389916.203060@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <46EF63BB.8010107@kevinyank.com> skip at pobox.com wrote: > Kevin> Yes, I downloaded the spambayes-1.0.4.zip source distribution > Kevin> from SourceForge, dated 2005-03-22. > > Can you please try 1.1a4? It's at least two years newer. Before we dig, > dig, dig it would be nice to know if the problem has already been fixed. > > Thanks, > > 1.1a4 seems to do a bit more work before it fails with a similar error: SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 1.1a4 (June 2007). Loading database C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db...Load ing state from C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db database C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db is a new database Done. User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Account: gravity.sitepoint.com:993 Training Training ham folder SpamBayes/Train as Not Junk ................................................................................ ... 0 trained. Training spam folder SpamBayes/Train as Junk ................................................................................ .................************************************************* 49 trained. Persisting C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db state in dat abase Training took 9.6690 seconds, 49 messages were trained. Classifying *Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1294, in run() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1276, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1082, in Filter self.unsure_folder, self.ham_folder) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 985, in Filter msg.Save() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 747, in Save response = self.imap_server.uid("SEARCH", search_string) File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 752, in uid typ, dat = self._simple_command(name, command, *args) File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 1055, in _simple_command return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 892, in _command_complete raise self.error('%s command error: %s %s' % (name, typ, data)) imaplib.error: UID command error: BAD ['parse error: unindexed header: X-SPAMBAY ES-MAILID'] -Kev. From thatguy at kevinyank.com Tue Sep 18 07:43:30 2007 From: thatguy at kevinyank.com (Kevin Yank) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:43:30 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Filter error In-Reply-To: <46EF63BB.8010107@kevinyank.com> References: <46E89AAF.2010703@kevinyank.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFED@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <46E9A90A.7080500@kevinyank.com> <18153.64037.389916.203060@montanaro.dyndns.org> <46EF63BB.8010107@kevinyank.com> Message-ID: <46EF6582.3080700@kevinyank.com> I managed to produce the same error in Thunderbird by searching for messages containing a X-SPAMBAYES-MAILID header. The current command did not succeed. The mail server responded: parse error: unindexed header: X-SPAMBAYES-MAILID. So it looks as if SpamBayes's IMAP proxy is attempting to do a search for messages by the X-SPAMBAYES-MAILID header, which my IMAP server does not support. Can SpamBayes handle this condition more gracefully?or better yet, work around it? -Kev. Kevin Yank wrote: > skip at pobox.com wrote: >> Kevin> Yes, I downloaded the spambayes-1.0.4.zip source distribution >> Kevin> from SourceForge, dated 2005-03-22. >> >> Can you please try 1.1a4? It's at least two years newer. Before we dig, >> dig, dig it would be nice to know if the problem has already been fixed. >> >> Thanks, >> > 1.1a4 seems to do a bit more work before it fails with a similar error: > > > SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 1.1a4 (June 2007). > > Loading database > C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db...Load > ing state from > C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db database > > C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db is a new > database > Done. > User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ > Account: gravity.sitepoint.com:993 > Training > Training ham folder SpamBayes/Train as Not Junk > ................................................................................ > > ... > 0 trained. > Training spam folder SpamBayes/Train as Junk > ................................................................................ > > .................************************************************* > 49 trained. > Persisting C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db > state in dat > abase > Training took 9.6690 seconds, 49 messages were trained. > Classifying > *Traceback (most recent call last): > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1294, in > run() > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1276, in run > imap_filter.Filter() > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1082, in Filter > self.unsure_folder, self.ham_folder) > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 985, in Filter > msg.Save() > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 747, in Save > response = self.imap_server.uid("SEARCH", search_string) > File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 752, in uid > typ, dat = self._simple_command(name, command, *args) > File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 1055, in _simple_command > return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) > File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 892, in _command_complete > raise self.error('%s command error: %s %s' % (name, typ, data)) > imaplib.error: UID command error: BAD ['parse error: unindexed header: > X-SPAMBAY > ES-MAILID'] > > > -Kev. > From thatguy at kevinyank.com Tue Sep 18 08:41:22 2007 From: thatguy at kevinyank.com (Kevin Yank) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:41:22 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Filter error In-Reply-To: <46EF6582.3080700@kevinyank.com> References: <46E89AAF.2010703@kevinyank.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7BFED@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <46E9A90A.7080500@kevinyank.com> <18153.64037.389916.203060@montanaro.dyndns.org> <46EF63BB.8010107@kevinyank.com> <46EF6582.3080700@kevinyank.com> Message-ID: <46EF7312.5030203@kevinyank.com> Confirmed. Here's the relevant bug/limitation in Zimbra (my IMAP server): http://bugzilla.zimbra.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7384 It would be nice if SpamBayes could cope with this restriction. -Kev. Kevin Yank wrote: > I managed to produce the same error in Thunderbird by searching for > messages containing a X-SPAMBAYES-MAILID header. > > The current command did not succeed. The mail server responded: parse > error: unindexed header: X-SPAMBAYES-MAILID. > > So it looks as if SpamBayes's IMAP proxy is attempting to do a search > for messages by the X-SPAMBAYES-MAILID header, which my IMAP server > does not support. Can SpamBayes handle this condition more > gracefully?or better yet, work around it? > > -Kev. > > > Kevin Yank wrote: >> skip at pobox.com wrote: >>> Kevin> Yes, I downloaded the spambayes-1.0.4.zip source distribution >>> Kevin> from SourceForge, dated 2005-03-22. >>> >>> Can you please try 1.1a4? It's at least two years newer. Before we dig, >>> dig, dig it would be nice to know if the problem has already been >>> fixed. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >> 1.1a4 seems to do a bit more work before it fails with a similar error: >> >> >> SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 1.1a4 (June 2007). >> >> Loading database >> C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db...Load >> ing state from >> C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db database >> >> C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db is a new >> database >> Done. >> User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ >> Account: gravity.sitepoint.com:993 >> Training >> Training ham folder SpamBayes/Train as Not Junk >> ................................................................................ >> >> ... >> 0 trained. >> Training spam folder SpamBayes/Train as Junk >> ................................................................................ >> >> .................************************************************* >> 49 trained. >> Persisting C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db >> state in dat >> abase >> Training took 9.6690 seconds, 49 messages were trained. >> Classifying >> *Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1294, in >> run() >> File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1276, in run >> imap_filter.Filter() >> File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1082, in Filter >> self.unsure_folder, self.ham_folder) >> File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 985, in Filter >> msg.Save() >> File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 747, in Save >> response = self.imap_server.uid("SEARCH", search_string) >> File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 752, in uid >> typ, dat = self._simple_command(name, command, *args) >> File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 1055, in _simple_command >> return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) >> File "C:\Python25\lib\imaplib.py", line 892, in _command_complete >> raise self.error('%s command error: %s %s' % (name, typ, data)) >> imaplib.error: UID command error: BAD ['parse error: unindexed >> header: X-SPAMBAY >> ES-MAILID'] >> >> >> -Kev. >> > > From skip at pobox.com Tue Sep 18 13:06:03 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:06:03 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Vista Version In-Reply-To: <145DFF32BAB94FFF8B263782F4BB556D@SuziePC> References: <145DFF32BAB94FFF8B263782F4BB556D@SuziePC> Message-ID: <18159.45339.861504.723644@montanaro.dyndns.org> Suzie> I have been using your Spam Bayes for several years on my Windows Suzie> 2000 as well as XP. I now have a laptop with Windows Vista. I Suzie> really need your program on it and am going to try and download Suzie> it today. I just thought I'd ask if you think it will work since Suzie> I did not see any mention of it on your website? http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-on-windows-vista Skip From pedro.santa at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 13:28:25 2007 From: pedro.santa at gmail.com (Pedro Santa) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:28:25 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 doesn't start/hangs/freezes on startup with SpamBayes Message-ID: <566b419c0709180428g12671d22kdd09303fc2f353f2@mail.gmail.com> Hi list, I've used SpamBayes for a while (on Outlook 2003) and it was really great. Now I've recently formatted the computer and installed Outlook 2007. Since then SpamBayes worked somewhat strange. Now that I've put it definitively filtering two of my inboxes, the Outlook won't start if I have the SpamBayes Add In enabled. It keeps on processing and processing and never stops, rendering the Outlook completely unresponsive. I have to "kill" Outlook in order to do something, and when it restarts it tells me that SpamBayes Add In is the cause for the crash and asks me if I wanna disable it. If I don't, it's the same process all over again. What's happening? I tried uninstalling and installing again and it doesn't worked. I tried the stable (1.0.4) and a more recent version (1.1.3a) and it's the same result. Has anyone the same problem? Regards and thanks in advance. Pedro Machado Santa From josh at ikram.com Tue Sep 18 15:38:48 2007 From: josh at ikram.com (Josh Goldman) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:38:48 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Message-ID: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> Are you planning to release a version which will support Outlook 2007 on XP and/or Vista? Please advise. Thank you. Sincerely, Josh Goldman Vice President Ikram LLC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070918/8b423ecf/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Tue Sep 18 16:32:31 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:32:31 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook 2007. See http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. For Vista, see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-on-windows -vista. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Josh Goldman Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:39 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Are you planning to release a version which will support Outlook 2007 on XP and/or Vista? Please advise. Thank you. Sincerely, Josh Goldman Vice President Ikram LLC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070918/cbf12a22/attachment.htm From josh at ikram.com Tue Sep 18 16:33:10 2007 From: josh at ikram.com (Josh Goldman) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:33:10 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF62BF@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> Thanks Jesse. I will look into this further. JDG. From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:33 AM To: Josh Goldman; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook 2007. See http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. For Vista, see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-on-windows -vista. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Josh Goldman Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:39 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Are you planning to release a version which will support Outlook 2007 on XP and/or Vista? Please advise. Thank you. Sincerely, Josh Goldman Vice President Ikram LLC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070918/8e5886d9/attachment.htm From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 19:17:05 2007 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:17:05 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] removal In-Reply-To: <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <114793.92018.qm@web83705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187717281.9821.49.camel@saruman> <18157.12854.323837.957584@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <2a052b990709181017h3b3acdcewec849e9f4485bdaf@mail.gmail.com> On 9/16/07, skip at pobox.com wrote: > Amedee> On one list, they changed the mailinglist footer. I would > Amedee> suggest: > > Amedee> SpamBayes at python.org > Amedee> Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Amedee> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.htm > > This appears to already be the case for the SpamBayes list (for both digest > and non-digest recipients). I noticed that there is a broken link in the footer, though. The Info/Unsubscribe text links directly to the unsubscribe page, but it uses a list name of "spambayesInfo" instead of "spambayes" and results in a list not found error from the mailman server. -- Kenny Pitt From newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Tue Sep 18 19:50:29 2007 From: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de (Peter Flindt) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:50:29 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: Jesse Pelton wrote : > Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook 2007. See > http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. 8-o Which version ist this? Works very well here (OL2007/Vista Ultimate 32). :D (Must be a new version, I have tried many time other 1.1a versions without any luck) Many thanks for this link. Peter From jsp at PKC.com Tue Sep 18 21:16:23 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:16:23 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I'll leave it to Mark to say what went into that brew, and whether it'll be in the final 1.1 release. Speaking of which...what would it take to officially release 1.1? There seems to be some danger of forks of a sort occurring before it's even out the door. (Copying spambayes-dev in case there's anyone who subscribes to that list but not the user list.) -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Peter Flindt Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:50 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Jesse Pelton wrote : > Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook 2007. See > http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. 8-o Which version ist this? Works very well here (OL2007/Vista Ultimate 32). :D (Must be a new version, I have tried many time other 1.1a versions without any luck) Many thanks for this link. Peter _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Tue Sep 18 23:41:36 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:41:36 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <068c01c7fa3c$bbcb8ed0$3362ac70$@com.au> I've been successfully using SB with Outlook 2007 for some time now, and there have been reports of success even before I tried. I just tried Outlook 2007 on Vista x64 and sadly it died very early. I'm still in the process of debugging that though - given we have waited so long, another couple of weeks to try and resolve that might be worthwhile (I'm also installing a 32bit vista to test with, just to see if that works better...) Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-dev-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-dev- > bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 5:16 AM > To: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de; spambayes at python.org > Cc: spambayes-dev at python.org > Subject: Re: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > I'll leave it to Mark to say what went into that brew, and whether > it'll > be in the final 1.1 release. > > Speaking of which...what would it take to officially release 1.1? > There > seems to be some danger of forks of a sort occurring before it's even > out the door. (Copying spambayes-dev in case there's anyone who > subscribes to that list but not the user list.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces at python.org] > On Behalf Of Peter Flindt > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:50 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > Jesse Pelton wrote : > > Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook 2007. > See > > http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. > > 8-o > > Which version ist this? > Works very well here (OL2007/Vista Ultimate 32). :D > > (Must be a new version, I have tried many time other 1.1a versions > without any luck) > > Many thanks for this link. > > Peter > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > _______________________________________________ > spambayes-dev mailing list > spambayes-dev at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev From marko at von-oppen.com Wed Sep 19 00:02:57 2007 From: marko at von-oppen.com (Marko von Oppen) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:02:57 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <068c01c7fa3c$bbcb8ed0$3362ac70$@com.au> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <068c01c7fa3c$bbcb8ed0$3362ac70$@com.au> Message-ID: <00d901c7fa3f$abf48180$03dd8480$@com> Mark, I'm running SB on Outlook 2007 / Vista Ultimate x64 for more than half a year now really stable. In daily work there are absolutely no problems. There were some small problems to get it running once but I reported all of them to the list. If I remember correctly the last one was a file access problem for the gen_py cache. Marko > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: spambayes-dev-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-dev- > bounces at python.org] Im Auftrag von Mark Hammond > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. September 2007 23:42 > An: 'Jesse Pelton'; newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de; spambayes at python.org > Cc: spambayes-dev at python.org > Betreff: Re: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > I've been successfully using SB with Outlook 2007 for some time now, > and > there have been reports of success even before I tried. I just tried > Outlook 2007 on Vista x64 and sadly it died very early. I'm still in > the > process of debugging that though - given we have waited so long, > another > couple of weeks to try and resolve that might be worthwhile (I'm also > installing a 32bit vista to test with, just to see if that works > better...) > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-dev-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-dev- > > bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 5:16 AM > > To: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de; spambayes at python.org > > Cc: spambayes-dev at python.org > > Subject: Re: [spambayes-dev] [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > > > I'll leave it to Mark to say what went into that brew, and whether > > it'll > > be in the final 1.1 release. > > > > Speaking of which...what would it take to officially release 1.1? > > There > > seems to be some danger of forks of a sort occurring before it's even > > out the door. (Copying spambayes-dev in case there's anyone who > > subscribes to that list but not the user list.) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > > bounces at python.org] > > On Behalf Of Peter Flindt > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:50 PM > > To: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 > > > > Jesse Pelton wrote : > > > Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook > 2007. > > See > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. > > > > 8-o > > > > Which version ist this? > > Works very well here (OL2007/Vista Ultimate 32). :D > > > > (Must be a new version, I have tried many time other 1.1a versions > > without any luck) > > > > Many thanks for this link. > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SpamBayes at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > _______________________________________________ > > spambayes-dev mailing list > > spambayes-dev at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev > > _______________________________________________ > spambayes-dev mailing list > spambayes-dev at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-dev From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 19 04:11:09 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:11:09 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <18160.34109.480945.55624@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook >> 2007. See >> http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. Peter> 8-o Peter> Which version ist this? Works very well here (OL2007/Vista Peter> Ultimate 32). :D Mark made this Outlook Plugin shortly after the 1.1a4 release. I went ahead and attached it to the 1.1a4 release, so it's now available from SourceForge. It would be nice if other Windows users would give it a whirl: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702&package_id=58141 Thanks, Skip Montanaro From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 19 04:32:31 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:32:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C821@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <18160.35391.460886.882267@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jesse> Speaking of which...what would it take to officially release 1.1? Jesse> There seems to be some danger of forks of a sort occurring before Jesse> it's even out the door. (Copying spambayes-dev in case there's Jesse> anyone who subscribes to that list but not the user list.) Since the bulk of the users appear to be Outlook/Windows folks our ability to make releases is often limited by the time available the couple of Windows people in the spambayes dev community have to make them. If there are others in the community capable of making and willing to make Windows installers, subscribe to spambayes-dev at python.org and speak up over there. Skip From pedro.santa at gmail.com Wed Sep 19 07:00:36 2007 From: pedro.santa at gmail.com (Pedro Santa) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:00:36 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Outlook toolbar still appears after uninstall Message-ID: <566b419c0709182200o94925bcm2c68a801b18e5bf1@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I've uninstalled the SpamBayes but the toolbar still appears on my Outlook. How can I remove that? Thanks in advance. Regards. -- Pedro Machado Santa From newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Wed Sep 19 09:29:25 2007 From: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de (Peter Flindt) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:29:25 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Outlook toolbar still appears after uninstall References: <566b419c0709182200o94925bcm2c68a801b18e5bf1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Pedro Santa wrote : > Hi all, > I've uninstalled the SpamBayes but the toolbar still appears on my > Outlook. How can I remove that? > Thanks in advance. > Regards. rightclick on it-> choose "customize" (not completlety sure if this is named "customized", other language here)-> There is a list with all toolbars and a "delete" button. Peter From jsp at PKC.com Wed Sep 19 15:03:31 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:03:31 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <18160.34109.480945.55624@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <18160.34109.480945.55624@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C8D8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> That's spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe? If so, I've been using it for some time (Outlook 2003 on XP) for some time. Or did you update the file and leave the name the same? SourceForge shows no downloads, but the file size matches the one I downloaded. Yes, I'm confused. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:11 PM To: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 >> Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook >> 2007. See >> http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. Peter> 8-o Peter> Which version ist this? Works very well here (OL2007/Vista Peter> Ultimate 32). :D Mark made this Outlook Plugin shortly after the 1.1a4 release. I went ahead and attached it to the 1.1a4 release, so it's now available from SourceForge. It would be nice if other Windows users would give it a whirl: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702&package_id=5 8141 Thanks, Skip Montanaro _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 19 20:21:20 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:21:20 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C8D8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <18160.34109.480945.55624@montanaro.dyndns.org> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C8D8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <18161.26784.687817.960445@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jesse> That's spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe? If so, I've been using it for Jesse> some time (Outlook 2003 on XP) for some time. Or did you update Jesse> the file and leave the name the same? SourceForge shows no Jesse> downloads, but the file size matches the one I downloaded. Yes, Jesse> I'm confused. That's the same one Mark has had available on the starship website for awhile. I just uploaded it to the current 1.1a4 release so it was easier for people to find. Skip From john at johndcowan.com Thu Sep 20 02:15:43 2007 From: john at johndcowan.com (john at johndcowan.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:15:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] How to filter spam messages with spambayes and outlook express? Message-ID: <20070920001543.8873D1E4007@bag.python.org> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 740 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070920/690e51a6/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 24 ham and 346 spam. The problem I am having is I have no knowledge of how this is supposed to work. I use spambayes with my work Outlook and see spam filtered into Junk and Junk Suspect folders. How do I do this with Outlook Express? I see a web interface where I choose Ham or Spam and Train. I do that and I see the same messages in my inbox and have to delete them. Nothing is getting filtered and I do not know what to do to get these spam emails filtered into another folder or blocked all together. Help? Thanks, JohnCowan From hray.crum at att.net Thu Sep 20 02:18:01 2007 From: hray.crum at att.net (Ray Crumrine) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:18:01 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Pre-release 1.1a4 windows binary available for testing Message-ID: <46F1BC39.80006@att.net> Installed your 1.1a4 Windows pre-release after 2 days of twiddling attempting to compile the source. Very glad you posted this because I wanted to try out the SSL support and a new SpamBayes.sfd file I created for Thunderbird. Both working fine so far. Thunderbird can use the .sfd to give more integrated operation with SpamBayes. Using Thunderbird 2.0.0.6. Thanks, Ray C. From skip at pobox.com Thu Sep 20 05:09:05 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:09:05 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] How to filter spam messages with spambayes and outlook express? In-Reply-To: <20070920001543.8873D1E4007@bag.python.org> References: <20070920001543.8873D1E4007@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <18161.58449.296515.727005@montanaro.dyndns.org> John> I use spambayes with my work Outlook and see spam filtered into John> Junk and Junk Suspect folders. John> How do I do this with Outlook Express? John, Outlook Express is seriously feeble in the filtering department. It will only allow you to filter on a small fixed set of headers. On the configuration page in the Header Options section you can choose to insert classification of ham, spam or unsure in the Subject: or To: fields. I think OE will filter either header. You can experiment or check the SpamBayes FAQ: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html I think there's something there about OE and its limited filtering capability. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Thu Sep 20 05:10:41 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:10:41 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Pre-release 1.1a4 windows binary available for testing In-Reply-To: <46F1BC39.80006@att.net> References: <46F1BC39.80006@att.net> Message-ID: <18161.58545.477755.211797@montanaro.dyndns.org> Ray> Installed your 1.1a4 Windows pre-release after 2 days of twiddling Ray> attempting to compile the source. Very glad you posted this because Ray> I wanted to try out the SSL support and a new SpamBayes.sfd file I Ray> created for Thunderbird. Both working fine so far. Thunderbird can Ray> use the .sfd to give more integrated operation with Ray> SpamBayes. Using Thunderbird 2.0.0.6. What's a .sfd file? Is Thunderbird a mail client that should be mentioned in the SpamBayes FAQ? I know there is ThunderBayes which helps more tightly integrate SpamBayes into the TBird user interface. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Thu Sep 20 10:32:28 2007 From: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de (Peter Flindt) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:32:28 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Pre-release 1.1a4 windows binary available for testing References: <46F1BC39.80006@att.net> Message-ID: Ray Crumrine wrote at 20.09.2007 : > Installed your 1.1a4 Windows pre-release after 2 days of twiddling > attempting to compile the source. Very glad you posted this because I > wanted to try out the SSL support and a new SpamBayes.sfd file I created > for Thunderbird. Both working fine so far. Thunderbird can use the .sfd > to give more integrated operation with SpamBayes. Using Thunderbird 2.0.0.6. > Thanks, > Ray C. > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html Hello, Something is wrong here. I have downloaded the spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe file from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 and execute it. I use the same folder as before and not deinstall my current version. Options dialog still show me 1.1a3 (April 2007). Peter From skip at pobox.com Thu Sep 20 18:24:31 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:24:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Pre-release 1.1a4 windows binary available for testing In-Reply-To: References: <46F1BC39.80006@att.net> Message-ID: <18162.40639.427854.586082@montanaro.dyndns.org> Peter> Something is wrong here. Peter> I have downloaded the spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe file ... Peter> Options dialog still show me 1.1a3 (April 2007). Thanks. We'll look into it. Can you try uninstalling and reinstalling it? I believe your configuration files should remain intact (though make a copy just in case). -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Fri Sep 21 00:09:41 2007 From: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de (Peter Flindt) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:09:41 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Pre-release 1.1a4 windows binary available for testing References: <46F1BC39.80006@att.net> <18162.40639.427854.586082@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: skip at pobox.com wrote : > Peter> Something is wrong here. > Peter> I have downloaded the spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe file ... > Peter> Options dialog still show me 1.1a3 (April 2007). > Thanks. We'll look into it. Can you try uninstalling and reinstalling it? > I believe your configuration files should remain intact (though make a copy > just in case). -I have made a complete deinstall (Programs in the system contol) -I have delete all files from c:\Programs\SpamBayes -download the EXE file from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe -Install it again -In system control->programs I have now an entry SpamBayes 1.1a4 (Sorry I have no look at it before the deinstall) -When I open Outlook->Spambayes Toolbar->Spambayes Manager I still see: "Spambayes Outlook Addin Version 1.1.a3(April 2007)" Maybe only this text is not up to date? Or this text is included in a language file (German text here) and this file is old? Peter From skip at pobox.com Fri Sep 21 03:47:52 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:47:52 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Pre-release 1.1a4 windows binary available for testing In-Reply-To: References: <46F1BC39.80006@att.net> <18162.40639.427854.586082@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <18163.8904.151959.93416@montanaro.dyndns.org> Peter> -In system control->programs I have now an entry SpamBayes 1.1a4 Peter> (Sorry I have no look at it before the deinstall) Peter> -When I open Outlook->Spambayes Toolbar->Spambayes Manager I Peter> still see: "Spambayes Outlook Addin Version 1.1.a3(April 2007)" Thanks. I found it and will correct it. Should be up-to-date on the next release. Skip From pedro.santa at gmail.com Fri Sep 21 17:23:10 2007 From: pedro.santa at gmail.com (Pedro Santa) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:23:10 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Outlook toolbar still appears after uninstall In-Reply-To: References: <566b419c0709182200o94925bcm2c68a801b18e5bf1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <566b419c0709210823u153547d3p7d05d126c37b0ecb@mail.gmail.com> On 19/09/2007, Peter Flindt wrote: > rightclick on it-> choose "customize" (not completlety sure if this is > named "customized", other language here)-> There is a list with all > toolbars and a "delete" button. Great. Thanks alot Peter! Always learning. :) Cheers. -- Pedro Machado Santa From janis at sundayfriends.org Sat Sep 22 02:16:30 2007 From: janis at sundayfriends.org (Janis) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:16:30 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Lost my junk mail folder Message-ID: <00a301c7fcad$d48ab3b0$0b00a8c0@JanisDell> Please help me. I've been very happily using SpamBayes with Outlook for a long time. I regularly check both Junk Suspects and Junk Mail. Recently, the Junk Mail folder disappeared from my Outlook folder list and I cannot find it anywhere. I can't see what's going to Junk Mail and I can't delete the emails in Junk Mail. What happened? What can I do? My version of Windows: XP My version of SpamBayes: 1.0.4 Please email janis at sundayfriends.org or call me at 408 356-0855. Thanks so much. Janis ************************** Janis Baron Sunday Friends The Working Alternative to Charity www.sundayfriends.org (408) 793-0441 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Carl -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+csjrswofford=bellsouth.net at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+csjrswofford=bellsouth.net at python.org] On Behalf Of Janis Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:16 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Lost my junk mail folder Please help me. I've been very happily using SpamBayes with Outlook for a long time. I regularly check both Junk Suspects and Junk Mail. Recently, the Junk Mail folder disappeared from my Outlook folder list and I cannot find it anywhere. I can't see what's going to Junk Mail and I can't delete the emails in Junk Mail. What happened? What can I do? My version of Windows: XP My version of SpamBayes: 1.0.4 Please email janis at sundayfriends.org or call me at 408 356-0855. Thanks so much. Janis ************************** Janis Baron Sunday Friends The Working Alternative to Charity www.sundayfriends.org (408) 793-0441 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070921/1b19b5c3/attachment.htm From julian.brooks at bigfoot.com Sat Sep 22 20:55:15 2007 From: julian.brooks at bigfoot.com (Julian Brooks) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:55:15 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 1.04 will not start / Cannot connect to localhost Message-ID: <46F56513.9070401@bigfoot.com> Firstly I should say I have previously used Spambayes very successfully with Outlook for over a year, thank you. A recent change of email program to Thunderbird has prompted me to try the pop3 proxy server instead. I have scoured Google searches for 24hours in an effort to find any answers to the problem I have been having, but to no avail. Apologies if there is an answer that I have not found. I have also been through the Spambayes FAQ - which explains much but not for my problems. I have also looked through the Nabble, Python - Spambayes forums. I am running WinXP SP2, Thunderbird 2.0.0.6, Thunderbayes 0.2.2 addin and Spambayes 1.04. I am therefore using sb_service.exe and Spambayes Tray. I have 2 ISPs setup connecting via ports 110 and 111 and Thunderbird set to retrieve the emails from localhost. Initially after setting everything up everything seemed to work fine. I rebooted the computer sometime later and then my problems started. I have had great difficulty getting the sb_service to start when the computer reboots. It initially appears to start with the tray icon showing that Spambayes is running. The icon then changes and Spambayes shows it is stopped. No manual attempts to restart either sb_service or the Spambayes Tray will do anything. Trying to pickup email from Thunderbird results in "no connection to localhost" - which is not surprising as Spambayes is not running. I also cannot access the Spambayes config, view information or read messages when the Spambayes is not running - also to be expected you say (I have included this as information to others who are having the same problems). I have spent a couple of days trying different things in order to get this to work: - reinstall Spambayes - looking at log files - disabling Thunderbayes master password - still not sure if this is an issue or not 2 or 3 times Spambayes has started working again, have picked up email and thought I had solved the problem only to be faced with a sb_service that will not run when I reboot the computer. If it seems vague as to what I have tried, nothing seems to be repeatable, so am not sure. Sorry, I do not have any log files to post now as everything has been overwritten with my successes - see below. I eventually came across a reference to Spambayes 1.1a4 in the Python - Spambayes forum. I found there was a windows install for this release on Sourceforge and decided to try it out. I first of all got in a mess as I did not uninstall the 1.04 program correctly (perhaps there are instructions somewhere I missed) which meant that 1.1a4 was using the old sb_service.exe (I think?). Anyway having deleted the sb_service finally another install of 1.1a4 has sorting everything out so far. Its still early days to know if my mail is being filtered correctly. The only thing I have noticed is that Spambayes is reporting that the version is 1.1a3 and not 1.1a4. I double checked my download which seems to be correct from Sourceforge, but I did notice that someone else noticed a similar problem all be it with the Outlook plugin for 1.1a4. Lastly, I hope this email helps someone else. I was going to post it directly on the Nabble forum, but so far I have not been sent my registration email. I look forward to further releases of Spambayes. From charles at thecalabros.com Tue Sep 25 02:39:48 2007 From: charles at thecalabros.com (Charles Calabro) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:39:48 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] plugin crashing outlook 2007 on vista solution Message-ID: <001001c7ff0c$94f0adc0$bed20940$@com> Hello, I have read these reports regarding the crashing on startup and googled for various solutions. The solution that worked for me that wasn't really well documents was this; Disable the business contact manager portion of outlook 2007 from 'File, Data Managemet'. Once unloaded spambayes ran fine. Regards, Charles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I didn't see anything odd about any of them. When I turned on logging I got a 256K file the last time I tried showing one of the messages being downloaded over and over. I then reverted to my old setup using SpamBayes 1.0.4 and Stunnel. Will try it for a few more days. Ray C. _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Caf?. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070924/463500ab/attachment.htm From ted.kennedy at tiscali.co.uk Tue Sep 25 17:55:38 2007 From: ted.kennedy at tiscali.co.uk (Ted Kennedy) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:55:38 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] problems with multiple email accountsaccounts Message-ID: <000901c7ff8c$84b9c560$49776b58@TandM> Hi Log file Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.tiscali.co.uk:110 Listener on port 8111 is proxying pop.freeserve.co.uk:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 1219 ham and 3233 spam. The problem I am having is that both my wife and I have email via pop3.tiscali.co.uk BUT only mine seems to be filtered by Spambayes. Hundreds of spams get to her whereas mine are filtered. we both have the @tiscali.co.uk part of the address although in Outlook Express pop3.tiscali.co.uk is given as my server and hers is pop3.tiscali.co.uk [1] Spambayes doesn't allow me to put in this second version (with a new port) reporting that I need the same number of servers/ports described. Do you have any ideas that will save us from the barrage of spam. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070925/656b2cdf/attachment.htm From singraham at okcca.net Tue Sep 25 23:28:42 2007 From: singraham at okcca.net (Steve Ingraham) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:28:42 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't "recover from spam" In-Reply-To: <000001c7ffb4$7c426270$74c72750$@ampp@free.fr> Message-ID: <088EFB279DB2A64688EE22B92FBEABA0247B88@mxi2.occa.state.ok.us> -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Directeur - Ecole intercommunale - Musique en pays de P?zenas Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:42 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Can't "recover from spam" Can't "recover from spam" (only ? Delete As Spam ? on toolbar) from spam folder. How to do so ? I have had this happen to me a time or two. The only way I have been able to resolve this is to uninstall SpamBayes and reinstall. Usually the reinstallation will correct this and the Recover from Spam button will function normally again. Of course you will have to retrain SpamBayes when doing this. Hope this helps, Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070925/bf17c232/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Delete As Spam ? on toolbar) from spam > folder. > > > > How to do so ? > > > > I have had this happen to me a time or two. The only way I have been > able to resolve this is to uninstall SpamBayes and reinstall. Usually the > reinstallation will correct this and the Recover from Spam button will > function normally again. Of course you will have to retrain SpamBayes > when doing this. > > > > Hope this helps, > > Steve > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > If you are using the Spambayes Proxy, have a look in your Application Data for SpamBayes, you should find the databases that Spambayes is using there. You can simply copy them, reinstall Spambayes and copy them back again. Voila - no retraining. My databases are in c:\Documents and Settings\username\Spambayes\.... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-%22recover-from-spam%22-tf4518179.html#a12896190 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From bobbycran at hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 17:00:16 2007 From: bobbycran at hotmail.com (Bobby Cran) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:00:16 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_IMAPfilter command line options Message-ID: I was wondering if anyone had a complete list of the command line options available for the Spambayes imap filter. I set up the filter and it is training just fine but it will not filter anything. It isn't marking any emails it sees as spam, ham or unsure. I was thinking it could be related to the command line options I was using so I have been searching for a few days to find a list of usable options without any luck. I have tried using all of the options below at the same time and I have used just the -c and the -t by themselves. Here are all of the options I have been able to come across: -c (classify unchecked email) -t (train) -v (???) -l (length of time to wait before checking again) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070926/b29f4f82/attachment.htm From julian.brooks at bigfoot.com Thu Sep 27 10:29:24 2007 From: julian.brooks at bigfoot.com (pdageniuis) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 1.04, Thunderbird and Thunderbayes 1.0 Message-ID: <12917000.post@talk.nabble.com> There is a new version of the Thunderbird add-on Thunderbayes. Version 1.0 integrates Spambayes 1.04. The setup is simple and it just works a treat. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Spambayes-1.04%2C-Thunderbird-and-Thunderbayes-1.0-tf4527068.html#a12917000 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From drake at fcbm.com Thu Sep 27 22:34:35 2007 From: drake at fcbm.com (Drake Brown) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:34:35 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] does this work in Outlook 2007 Message-ID: <342F152D7B4D5B45958FC61D190B8BB16BFA12@FIRSTC-EXCHANGE.fcbm.com> I am installing outlook 2007 for the first time. I download the spambayes addin but nothing shows up on the toolbar. Does this product work in outlook 2007 Drake Brown I.T. Manager Information Technology 425.885.4755 corp 206.786.6565 cell "Well I tell them there's no problem only solutions" John Lennon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070927/e5e2eebc/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 3387 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070927/e5e2eebc/attachment.jpeg From newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Fri Sep 28 01:27:04 2007 From: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de (Peter Flindt) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:27:04 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] does this work in Outlook 2007 References: <342F152D7B4D5B45958FC61D190B8BB16BFA12@FIRSTC-EXCHANGE.fcbm.com> Message-ID: Drake Brown wrote : > I am installing outlook 2007 for the first time. I download the > spambayes addin but nothing shows up on the toolbar. Does this product > work in outlook 2007 Works here without any problems: Spambayes 1.1a4 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 Maybe this site is useful too: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-on-windows-vista (System: With Outlook2007 and Vista Ultimate32) Peter From janb at hardwooddesigns.com Fri Sep 28 15:28:08 2007 From: janb at hardwooddesigns.com (Jan Bouterse) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:28:08 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] question Message-ID: <001101c801d3$68c00100$0e01a8c0@hardwood.local> First, let me commend you on your awesome program! Please let me know how I get writ of the SPAM-LOW that appears in front of some of the subjects in outlook's "subject field" I thank you in advance, Jan Bouterse, Director of Business Development Hardwood Designs, Inc. 511 Valley Forge Rd. Hillsborough, NC 27278 phone 919-643-1100 fax 919-643-1101 www.hardwooddesigns.com "The information contained in this correspondence may be considered confidential and proprietary. Distribute only by the express authority of Hardwood Designs Inc." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070928/7ba5409e/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Fri Sep 28 15:42:02 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:42:02 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] question In-Reply-To: <001101c801d3$68c00100$0e01a8c0@hardwood.local> References: <001101c801d3$68c00100$0e01a8c0@hardwood.local> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905EF4008@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I don't think that's coming from SpamBayes. Maybe Outlook or your mail server adds that as a service of sorts; you could try contacting the administrator of your mail server. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2007-September/021212.html for a recent discussion of a similar issue (with no real resolution, unfortunately.) ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jan Bouterse Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:28 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] question First, let me commend you on your awesome program! Please let me know how I get writ of the SPAM-LOW that appears in front of some of the subjects in outlook's "subject field" I thank you in advance, Jan Bouterse, Director of Business Development Hardwood Designs, Inc. 511 Valley Forge Rd. Hillsborough, NC 27278 phone 919-643-1100 fax 919-643-1101 www.hardwooddesigns.com "The information contained in this correspondence may be considered confidential and proprietary. Distribute only by the express authority of Hardwood Designs Inc." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070928/18b9ea1a/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Fri Sep 28 17:03:18 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:03:18 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] question In-Reply-To: <001c01c801db$d06673e0$0e01a8c0@hardwood.local> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905EF4008@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <001c01c801db$d06673e0$0e01a8c0@hardwood.local> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905EF406D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> The only way to know for sure is to disable or remove it and anything else that might be adding the prefix. But I'd start by talking to the mail server administrator in case they're running some spam filter before the message reaches your machine. ________________________________ From: Jan Bouterse [mailto:janb at hardwooddesigns.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:28 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question hmm, FYI, this is what I found: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_t hread/thread/fccef4189a087ecf/37ca56baa18bcfde?lnk=raot I don't think Norton is the cause. thanks you for helping, in advance, Jan Bouterse, Director of Business Development Hardwood Designs, Inc. 511 Valley Forge Rd. Hillsborough, NC 27278 phone 919-643-1100 fax 919-643-1101 www.hardwooddesigns.com "The information contained in this correspondence may be considered confidential and proprietary. Distribute only by the express authority of Hardwood Designs Inc." ________________________________ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: Jan Bouterse; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question I don't think that's coming from SpamBayes. Maybe Outlook or your mail server adds that as a service of sorts; you could try contacting the administrator of your mail server. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2007-September/021212.html for a recent discussion of a similar issue (with no real resolution, unfortunately.) ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jan Bouterse Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:28 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] question First, let me commend you on your awesome program! Please let me know how I get writ of the SPAM-LOW that appears in front of some of the subjects in outlook's "subject field" I thank you in advance, Jan Bouterse, Director of Business Development Hardwood Designs, Inc. 511 Valley Forge Rd. Hillsborough, NC 27278 phone 919-643-1100 fax 919-643-1101 www.hardwooddesigns.com "The information contained in this correspondence may be considered confidential and proprietary. Distribute only by the express authority of Hardwood Designs Inc." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070928/fd165bbc/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Fri Sep 28 21:03:49 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:03:49 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] question In-Reply-To: <001101c801d3$68c00100$0e01a8c0@hardwood.local> References: <001101c801d3$68c00100$0e01a8c0@hardwood.local> Message-ID: <18173.20501.8343.920504@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jan> First, let me commend you on your awesome program! On behalf of all the SpamBayes developers, thank you. Jan> Please let me know how I get writ of the SPAM-LOW that appears in Jan> front of some of the subjects in outlook's "subject field" As Jesse indicated, that's not likely to be coming from SpamBayes, especially since you indicated that not all subjects are annotated. If you are using Outlook (as it appears you are) and not Outlook Express, then it's unlikely that SpamBayes is the culprit here. If you are using the POP3 proxy or IMAP filter however, you can configure them to annotate the Subject: or To: fields. This was added because some mail software (most notably Outlook Express) has very limited header filtering functionality. So, just in case you happen to be using OE, check your SpamBayes server settings. If not, check with your admins to see if they recognize the annotation and/or have some corporate spam filters which are adding it. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/