From awkml at swbell.net Fri Jun 1 15:33:02 2007 From: awkml at swbell.net (alex and karen) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:33:02 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes & SSL Message-ID: <001001c7a451$6133a7f0$6713fea9@Fuzzy> Does SpamBayes support SSL? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070601/e76a5162/attachment.html From alan at thebloodycomputer.co.uk Fri Jun 1 16:55:30 2007 From: alan at thebloodycomputer.co.uk (alan at thebloodycomputer.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:55:30 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think that's where my error may be Thanks From rprimiano at amalgamated.com Fri Jun 1 19:10:09 2007 From: rprimiano at amalgamated.com (IT - Bob Primiano) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 13:10:09 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk Suspects folder disappears Message-ID: <8AE3FF124D22784B89768A030B1379270176B1@server2.amalgamated.com> Hello, I have a problem on a system ---- the system is running Windows XP Professional SP2, along with Outlook 2003 SP2. I'm running Spambayes version 1.0.4 for more than one year now. Occasionally when Outlook is opened the Junk Suspects folder disappears. The only way I get the folder back is by running the configuration wizard. The software was running fine until about 30 days ago, when we get the intermittent disappearance of the junk suspects folder. I'm also including the log file off the problem system. Can you tell me why the junk suspects folder disappears and how to resolve this ? 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I'm running Bob> Spambayes version 1.0.4 for more than one year now. Bob> Occasionally when Outlook is opened the Junk Suspects folder Bob> disappears..... Can you tell me why the junk suspects folder Bob> disappears and how to resolve this ? I can't tell you why, but have you tried the remedy outlined in this FAQ question? http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder Skip From tmallie at quayside.com Sat Jun 2 01:43:53 2007 From: tmallie at quayside.com (T. Mallie) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:43:53 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 addin has mysteriously stopped working Message-ID: <000001c7a4a6$b7baaf60$0300a8c0@mightymouse> Have been using it for quite awhile - not sure what happened. I have looked at the log file and see an error but I have no idea if that is what is causing this problem. I have included the log file. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Horowitz, MD From jsp at PKC.com Mon Jun 4 14:59:27 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 08:59:27 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem In-Reply-To: <3779.10.250.10.1.1180960814.squirrel@webmail.medscape.com> References: <3779.10.250.10.1.1180960814.squirrel@webmail.medscape.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905903DFB@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Please see the FAQ: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of barryscot at pol.net Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:40 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Problem My Junk Mail folder became full and I accidently deleted it. Now emails are not being filtered. How do I get it back and get it to filter again? Thanks, Barry S. Horowitz, MD _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From cncole at earthlink.net Mon Jun 4 15:07:53 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 08:07:53 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <18016.22394.139970.657909@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I made a mistake and updated the Spambayes junk and good data using some archival pst files that were not attached at the time. Spambayes found and attached them, but in doing so, destroyed some data Outlook needs so I can "close" them or see their "advanced properties". I cannot find a repair tool or instruction after diligent looking. I need to "close" these extra huge PST files and cannot. I can access their contents and could empty them to alternate pst files, but cannot fix the broken links and risk losing very big and important archives. Is there any repair tool I can try? Can Spambayes be made to avoid this file corruption? Can Spambayes heal the link parameters of extra PST files? Chuck From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Tue Jun 5 03:37:46 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:37:46 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <08dc01c7a712$1f2421a0$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> > I made a mistake and updated the Spambayes junk and good data > using some > archival pst files that were not attached at the time. > Spambayes found > and attached them, I'm not quite sure what this means - spambayes doesn't attempt to automatically locate any PST files, nor does it make any attempt to "attach" to anything. Spambayes uses the MAPI APIs to deal with messages - its more likely that Outlook itself is doing what you describe. Spambayes deals only with the "ID" of messages or folders, and MAPI itself translates that to access into PST files or whatever else MAPI supports. > but in doing so, destroyed some data > Outlook needs so > I can "close" them or see their "advanced properties". I > cannot find a > repair tool or instruction after diligent looking. Again, Spambayes makes no attempt to explicitly open or close PST files. It does everything via MAPI, so any such errors are likely to be there. > I need to "close" these extra huge PST files and cannot. I can access > their contents and could empty them to alternate pst files, but cannot > fix the broken links and risk losing very big and important archives. > > Is there any repair tool I can try? I assume you've tried the standard 'scanpst' tool that comes with outlook? > Can Spambayes be made to avoid this file corruption? I'm afraid you will need to explain in more detail exactly what happened, and exactly what role you believe Spambayes played in that. Spambayes never touches the PST files directly, only as a side-effect of using MAPI. Spambayes makes no attempts to "link" anything. > Can Spambayes heal the link parameters of extra PST files? Spambayes can't touch these link parameters - either to cause the problem in the first place, or to repair already broken ones. Mark From cncole at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 04:10:08 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 21:10:08 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <08dc01c7a712$1f2421a0$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:38 PM > > > I made a mistake and updated the Spambayes junk and good data > > using some > > archival pst files that were not attached at the time. > > Spambayes found > > and attached them, > > I'm not quite sure what this means - spambayes doesn't attempt to > automatically locate any PST files, nor does it make any > attempt to "attach" > to anything. > > Spambayes uses the MAPI APIs to deal with messages - its more > likely that > Outlook itself is doing what you describe. Spambayes deals > only with the > "ID" of messages or folders, and MAPI itself translates that > to access into > PST files or whatever else MAPI supports. Spambayes being activated caused the result. Nothing else did. Have no idea what the mechanism was since all was/is hidden. > > but in doing so, destroyed some data > > Outlook needs so > > I can "close" them or see their "advanced properties". I > > cannot find a > > repair tool or instruction after diligent looking. > > Again, Spambayes makes no attempt to explicitly open or close > PST files. It > does everything via MAPI, so any such errors are likely to be there. I doubt that they "reside" in MAPI. The conditions for successful Spambayes operation were not met, but it ran anyway and damage occurred because of that. I think that's a BIG problem even if it's not easy to rope and brand it. > > I need to "close" these extra huge PST files and cannot. I > can access > > their contents and could empty them to alternate pst files, > but cannot > > fix the broken links and risk losing very big and important > archives. > > > > Is there any repair tool I can try? > > I assume you've tried the standard 'scanpst' tool that comes > with outlook? Yes.. no help at all. > > Can Spambayes be made to avoid this file corruption? > > I'm afraid you will need to explain in more detail exactly > what happened, > and exactly what role you believe Spambayes played in that. The many of the PST files designated in SpamBayes for HAM and SPAM were not "open" in Outlook when Spambayes was told to update. They were correctly named and were placed in the same subdirectory as the main and a few other PST files which were also designated. However, the list in Spambayes was NOT fully present (ie, not "open"). > Spambayes never > touches the PST files directly, only as a side-effect of using MAPI. > Spambayes makes no attempts to "link" anything. Spambayes needs to verify that a designated file exists in safe condition before proceeding. Failure to do that caused this problem through some connected chain. > > Can Spambayes heal the link parameters of extra PST files? > > Spambayes can't touch these link parameters - either to cause > the problem in > the first place, or to repair already broken ones. Understood. However, since it can and does break these links, a provision to heal them seems due and necessary for safe operation. Thanks for your comments. I really need a solution, however. Chuck From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Tue Jun 5 07:25:25 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:25:25 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <08e901c7a731$ec88c190$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> > > Again, Spambayes makes no attempt to explicitly open or close > > PST files. It > > does everything via MAPI, so any such errors are likely to be there. > > I doubt that they "reside" in MAPI. All pst manipulation happens inside MAPI. MAPI exposes all of the Outlook items as a big database. Spambayes never deals with pst files directly (indeed, spambayes doesn't even know they *are* in a PST file - they may well reside on an Exchange server). > > I'm afraid you will need to explain in more detail exactly > > what happened, > > and exactly what role you believe Spambayes played in that. > > The many of the PST files designated in SpamBayes for HAM and > SPAM were > not "open" in Outlook when Spambayes was told to update. If you look inside the spambayes configuration files, you will notice the PST files are not referenced. You never designate a PST file in spambayes. If you happen to select a folder that exists in a PST file, spambayes just remembers the numeric "ID" of the folder - MAPI is what works out that it does or does not live in a PST, and where that PST is located. > They were > correctly named and were placed in the same subdirectory as > the main and > a few other PST files which were also designated. However, > the list in > Spambayes was NOT fully present (ie, not "open"). You mean the list of PST files that Outlook opens? This is just Outlook and MAPI loading your configuration, and happens well before spambayes gets involved, and it would happen even if spambayes was not installed. > > > Spambayes never > > touches the PST files directly, only as a side-effect of using MAPI. > > Spambayes makes no attempts to "link" anything. > > Spambayes needs to verify that a designated file exists in safe > condition before proceeding. Failure to do that caused this problem > through some connected chain. See above - spambayes has no idea if any given folder comes from a .pst file or elsewhere - that is all up to Outlook and MAPI. > Understood. However, since it can and does break these links, a > provision to heal them seems due and necessary for safe operation. > > Thanks for your comments. I really need a solution, however. I'm sorry to hear you are having this trouble, but I'm still not sure what the symptoms are, or exactly what "links" are in the context of this problem. Can't you just tell Outlook to close the .pst files causing trouble, then reopen the ones you want? If you mean that all your "Rules" etc are now broken, for example, you may just find this is an unexpected "feature" of Outlook that kicks in if you reconfigure certain parts of Outlook and unrelated to spambayes. Regards, Mark. From cncole at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 08:18:32 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 01:18:32 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <08e901c7a731$ec88c190$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:25 AM > > > > Again, Spambayes makes no attempt to explicitly open or close > > > PST files. It > > > does everything via MAPI, so any such errors are likely > to be there. > > > > I doubt that they "reside" in MAPI. Evidence strongly indicates that the only active superset list of folders before opening is within Spambayes and for regeneration purposes. Outlook and MAPI never did this on their own. > > All pst manipulation happens inside MAPI. MAPI exposes all > of the Outlook > items as a big database. Spambayes never deals with pst > files directly > (indeed, spambayes doesn't even know they *are* in a PST file > - they may > well reside on an Exchange server). Your assumptions simply are not entirely correct. The definition of any association existed only in Spambayes: the pst files were not already or permanently "open" in Outlook. Spambayes action to scan HAM and SPAM caused the problem of non-reversable binding in Outlook. Note: this is Outlook 2000 with current SpamBayes doing regeneration. > > > I'm afraid you will need to explain in more detail exactly > > > what happened, > > > and exactly what role you believe Spambayes played in that. > > > > The many of the PST files designated in SpamBayes for HAM and > > SPAM were > > not "open" in Outlook when Spambayes was told to update. > > If you look inside the spambayes configuration files, you > will notice the > PST files are not referenced. You never designate a PST file > in spambayes. > If you happen to select a folder that exists in a PST file, > spambayes just > remembers the numeric "ID" of the folder - MAPI is what works > out that it > does or does not live in a PST, and where that PST is located. The list and association was only in Spambayes, NOT in Outlook nor MAPI, and only for scanning of HAM and SPAM data for Spambayes. Only the action of telling Spambayes to regenerate caused a problem: NOTHING else opening or closing ever did. > > > They were > > correctly named and were placed in the same subdirectory as > > the main and > > a few other PST files which were also designated. However, > > the list in > > Spambayes was NOT fully present (ie, not "open"). > > You mean the list of PST files that Outlook opens? This is > just Outlook and > MAPI loading your configuration, and happens well before > spambayes gets > involved, and it would happen even if spambayes was not installed. WRONG: the additional PST files were never opened by opening OutLook alone. Happened many times safely and correctly with permutations of which were "open". Having Spambayes regenerate caused the opening of additional PST files previously used but not opened and these cannot be "closed" afterwards. > > > Spambayes never > > > touches the PST files directly, only as a side-effect of > using MAPI. > > > Spambayes makes no attempts to "link" anything. Spambayes regeneration was the only list or association with a visible or working record, and the only action that caused any problem. > > Spambayes needs to verify that a designated file exists in safe > > condition before proceeding. Failure to do that caused this problem > > through some connected chain. True as stated for Spambayes regeneration. > See above - spambayes has no idea if any given folder comes > from a .pst file > or elsewhere - that is all up to Outlook and MAPI. Your assumptions simply are not entirely correct. The definition of any association existed only in Spambayes: the pst files were not already or permanently "open" in Outlook. Spambayes action to scan HAM and SPAM caused the problem of non-reversable binding in Outlook. > I'm sorry to hear you are having this trouble, but I'm still > not sure what > the symptoms are, or exactly what "links" are in the context of this > problem. Can't you just tell Outlook to close the .pst files causing > trouble, then reopen the ones you want? No, THAT is the problem created by Spambayes doing a regeneration when referenced folders were not already "open" in OutLook. Upon trying to close it in Outlook, the following error dialog box is shown: "The operation failed. An object could not be found." If you mean that all > your "Rules" > etc are now broken, for example, you may just find this is an > unexpected > "feature" of Outlook that kicks in if you reconfigure certain parts of > Outlook and unrelated to spambayes. Unrelated to Outlook Rules. I did not cite these. They seem wholly unchanged buy the other mess. It us unrelated to Outlook and 100% correlated to Spambayes doing a regeneration when some previously used folders are not already "open" for this in Outlook. Outlook had/has no problem of this kind. Thanks.. Chuck From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Tue Jun 5 09:58:02 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:58:02 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <08fa01c7a747$3e269120$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> > Evidence strongly indicates that the only active superset list of > folders before opening is within Spambayes and for regeneration > purposes. Outlook and MAPI never did this on their own. I'm getting quite lost :) Outlook and MAPI must have had them open before they could even be selected in spambayes. > > All pst manipulation happens inside MAPI. MAPI exposes all > > of the Outlook items as a big database. Spambayes never > > deals with pst files directly > > (indeed, spambayes doesn't even know they *are* in a PST file > > - they may > > well reside on an Exchange server). > > Your assumptions simply are not entirely correct. They are facts, as the source code proves. > Unrelated to Outlook Rules. I did not cite these. They seem wholly > unchanged buy the other mess. Yes, I was just trying to help explain what you are seeing. > It us unrelated to Outlook and 100% correlated to Spambayes doing a > regeneration when some previously used folders are not already "open" > for this in Outlook. Outlook had/has no problem of this kind. I'm afraid I can't think of any more advice to offer. Good luck, Mark From cncole at earthlink.net Tue Jun 5 10:57:47 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 03:57:47 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <08fa01c7a747$3e269120$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:58 AM > To: cncole at earthlink.net; spambayes at python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook > > > > Evidence strongly indicates that the only active superset list of > > folders before opening is within Spambayes and for regeneration > > purposes. Outlook and MAPI never did this on their own. > > I'm getting quite lost :) Outlook and MAPI must have had > them open before > they could even be selected in spambayes. 10-100 times before the Spambayes regen, Outlook did have the additional PST files from my 2006 group open, but they had been closed through MANY openings and closings of my Outlook's 2007 PST files since then. > > > All pst manipulation happens inside MAPI. MAPI exposes all > > > of the Outlook items as a big database. Spambayes never > > > deals with pst files directly > > > (indeed, spambayes doesn't even know they *are* in a PST file > > > - they may > > > well reside on an Exchange server). > > > > Your assumptions simply are not entirely correct. > > They are facts, as the source code proves. The source code must not operate as you believe, and this could be true because of what the linked libraries may do at compile time... unless the source is exclusively assembly code with no library routines ever linked. Your citation of source code may not be inclusive of all actual functionality unless you have audited the libraries, etc. I'm sure your *intent* for the code is as you say but that may not actually be definitive. Are any object libraries used? Is it *possible* that you have not audited all possibilities for Spambayes regen action to trigger something if not do it directly? I'm just trying to be logically complete and thorough as you are, and do respect your knowledge of the intended Spambayes functionality. I'm quite sure what I observe is true and as described. Not sure there wasn't an unobservable glitch when regen ran, but *if* the Spambayes and other processes were connected logical processes, they did do as I described. > > > > Unrelated to Outlook Rules. I did not cite these. They seem wholly > > unchanged buy the other mess. > > Yes, I was just trying to help explain what you are seeing. Thanks for your efforts and patience. > > It us unrelated to Outlook and 100% correlated to Spambayes doing a > > regeneration when some previously used folders are not > already "open" > > for this in Outlook. Outlook had/has no problem of this kind. > > I'm afraid I can't think of any more advice to offer. Any libraries used? I'm sure the fix is an Outlook tool, but there may be some prevention needed in Spambayes. I bought an Outlook fixit tool that was supposed to do magic, but did nothing. Chuck From registrar at alts.edu Tue Jun 5 15:28:02 2007 From: registrar at alts.edu (Kristofer Carlson) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:28:02 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002f01c7a775$58017050$6b65a8c0@cts.local> > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 08:07:53 -0500 > From: "Chuck Cole" > Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook > To: > > I made a mistake and updated the Spambayes junk and good data using some > archival pst files that were not attached at the time. Spambayes found > and attached them, but in doing so, destroyed some data Outlook needs so > I can "close" them or see their "advanced properties". I cannot find a > repair tool or instruction after diligent looking. > > I need to "close" these extra huge PST files and cannot. I can access > their contents and could empty them to alternate pst files, but cannot > fix the broken links and risk losing very big and important archives. > > Is there any repair tool I can try? > > Can Spambayes be made to avoid this file corruption? > > Can Spambayes heal the link parameters of extra PST files? > > > Chuck I've read the exchange between you and Mark Hammond. I must admit the description of your problem is puzzling, and I'm not sure I understand exactly what is happening. I've got some thoughts about how you got into this predicament, which are included at the end of this message. However, you simply want to get Outlook working again, so we'll tackle that first. Outlook email profiles sometimes get corrupted, and do some strange things. This might be what happened to you. You simply have to rebuild your profile. 1) Gather the information for your email account(s): UserID, password, email address, POP3 and SMTP settings. 2) Determine which Outlook .pst file you are using (Control Panel/Mail/Show Profiles/Properties/Data Files 3) If Outlook will open, export your Rules: Tools/Rules and Alerts/Options/Export Rules 4) Close Outlook 5) Control Panel/Mail/Show Profiles 6) Delete Profile (this is optional: you will have an option later to select which profile automatically opens when you start Outlook) 7) Add Profile 8) Add Email Account(s) 9) Open Outlook 10)File/Import & Export/Import from another program or file/Personal Folder File (.pst) 11) Import from your original .pst folder. Be sure to select the root of the .pst, and import the subfolders into the same folder into your new location (which is likely your Personal Folders). 12) Import your Rules: Tools/Rules and Alerts/Options/Import Rules If you did everything correctly, you will have a functioning Outlook, with all your stuff in the correct place. You will likely have to reconfigure SpamBayes, but that is a different issue, and covered in the help files. If I understand the discussion, it appears that SpamBayes uses MAPI to access .pst folder data. You told SpamBayes to access .pst files that were not linked to your email profile, and therefore MAPI couldn't find them. I could speculate on what happened within Outlook when that happened, but I'd just be guessing. The solution to this is not to update (train) SpamBayes by "linking" to .pst files that are not open in your Outlook profile. It doesn't work that way, and can't happen. Instead, import the .pst file folder containing the data you want to use for training into Outlook---you can create a new folder for the purpose, and import the data into there. If you are importing "Junk" and "Not Junk", create two folders, one for each. Train from within your .pst folder, then delete the folder(s) containing the imported data. That should work much better. Kristofer Carlson From rusty at northrock.bm Tue Jun 5 21:09:08 2007 From: rusty at northrock.bm (Rusty) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:09:08 -0300 Subject: [Spambayes] my spam folder disappeared from my folder list?! Message-ID: <000501c7a7a4$feee8c70$932cf9d8@your4f1261a8e5> Kindly Advise RUSTY2northrock.bm Hopefully, Rusty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I suggest starting with this question: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder Skip From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Jun 6 05:55:24 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:55:24 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <09dc01c7a7ee$83c59e90$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> > > > > All pst manipulation happens inside MAPI. MAPI exposes all > > > > of the Outlook items as a big database. Spambayes never > > > > deals with pst files directly > > > > (indeed, spambayes doesn't even know they *are* in a PST file > > > > - they may > > > > well reside on an Exchange server). > > > > > > Your assumptions simply are not entirely correct. > > > > They are facts, as the source code proves. > > The source code must not operate as you believe, and this > could be true > because of what the linked libraries may do at compile time... That is simply incorrect - I think you mean runtime? > unless the source is exclusively assembly code with no library > routines ever linked. Assembly code has nothing to do with it - assembly code can call libraries. > Your citation of source code may not be inclusive of > all actual > functionality unless you have audited the libraries, etc. > I'm sure your > *intent* for the code is as you say but that may not actually be > definitive. It is - spambayes never opens a PST file directly, period. > Are any object libraries used? Yes, I already explained the library is MAPI, and that is the library opening the PST files. > Is it *possible* that you > have not audited all possibilities for Spambayes regen action > to trigger > something if not do it directly? It will be impossible for you to find any code in spambayes that deals with folders as anything more than an "ID". Spambayes asks MAPI to open a folder with a specified ID, and MAPI obliges. However, I have said all this before. > I'm quite sure what I > observe is true and as described. I have no doubt that your recollection of what you saw is accurate. I'm afraid I have every reason to believe your speculation as to exactly what went wrong or who went wrong is incorrect. > Not sure there wasn't an unobservable glitch when > regen ran, but *if* the Spambayes and other processes were connected > logical processes, they did do as I described. Spambayes is an Outlook addin. It is incapable of functioning without Outlook, as that is what provides the MAPI functionality needed. There are no other "logical processes" involved (well - at leat I don't think so - I can only guess what you mean by "logical processes") > > I'm afraid I can't think of any more advice to offer. > > Any libraries used? Yes, MAPI. Mark From cncole at earthlink.net Wed Jun 6 10:40:52 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 03:40:52 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <09dc01c7a7ee$83c59e90$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: Action initiated by Spambayes may trigger a Windows "feature" that is actually a mild crash, and it's possible that neither Spambayes nor Windows has a trap for this "catastrophe". Ideally, Spambayes would have some trap to prevent continuing in this operation when the necessary PST bindings are not active. There is no trap or safety net for this, so a strong warning in Spambayes instructions may be the only "safety" measure. I found a cure FINALLY. While Spambayes triggered the largest catastrophe I have ever seen, it was not the only catastrophe and I have had a wholly unrelated example of this same type with a single PST "main file" from previous years. The cure requires removing the linked PST references from the Registry, according to a note I finally found on the web. Removing the 8 or so recent catastrophes caused by Spambayes was easy, so I tried the fixing the more complex 2 yr old cases of PSTs that once were the main Inbox files and had additional data types. The same cure works easily for all cases. Thus, whatever the initial cause, the result is a corrupted registry entry for that extra PST file, and the corruption prevents using the "close" command in OutLook. Once "cured" (ie, removed and thus "closed"), that PST file may be added and closed normally. My few comments below probably are not worth much after this... > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:55 PM > > > > > > All pst manipulation happens inside MAPI. MAPI exposes all > > > > > of the Outlook items as a big database. Spambayes never > > > > > deals with pst files directly > > > > > (indeed, spambayes doesn't even know they *are* in a PST file > > > > > - they may > > > > > well reside on an Exchange server). > > > > > > > > Your assumptions simply are not entirely correct. > > > > > > They are facts, as the source code proves. > > > > The source code must not operate as you believe, and this > > could be true > > because of what the linked libraries may do at compile time... > > That is simply incorrect - I think you mean runtime? My language was sloppy: after compilation, at linking, before runtime. > > > unless the source is exclusively assembly code with no library > > routines ever linked. > > Assembly code has nothing to do with it - assembly code can > call libraries. Of course, but usually has a "level playing field" of being able to access and display *all* source that is bound via linking. > > > Your citation of source code may not be inclusive of > > all actual > > functionality unless you have audited the libraries, etc. > > I'm sure your > > *intent* for the code is as you say but that may not actually be > > definitive. > > It is - spambayes never opens a PST file directly, period. > > > Are any object libraries used? > > Yes, I already explained the library is MAPI, and that is the library > opening the PST files. > > > Is it *possible* that you > > have not audited all possibilities for Spambayes regen action > > to trigger > > something if not do it directly? > > It will be impossible for you to find any code in spambayes > that deals with > folders as anything more than an "ID". Spambayes asks MAPI > to open a folder > with a specified ID, and MAPI obliges. However, I have said all this > before. The Spambayes to MAPI interface should have a means to detect from MAPI the error that the PST folder is not already "open". Having no trap for the "can't or shouldn't do this" cases is a bad or maybe catastrophic omission. The only remedy in Spambayes may be to add warnings to the docs for regeneration. > > I'm quite sure what I > > observe is true and as described. > > I have no doubt that your recollection of what you saw is > accurate. I'm > afraid I have every reason to believe your speculation as to > exactly what > went wrong or who went wrong is incorrect. Just not precise. Nuffa dis.. Thanks for your patience and comments. At least I can now fix this when it occurs again. Chuck From skip at pobox.com Wed Jun 6 14:10:54 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 07:10:54 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <09dc01c7a7ee$83c59e90$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> References: <09dc01c7a7ee$83c59e90$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: <18022.42062.229791.259145@montanaro.dyndns.org> As he is the author of the SpamBayes Outlook plugin, I've no doubt that what Mark wrote about how it works is correct. It would appear you don't have that level of confidence. You are, of course, more than welcome to audit the code of the plugin yourself. Since it is open source, it is available to you. You can browse the code online via this link: http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/spambayes/ Alternatively, you can simply check the code out of the CVS repository by following the instructions on this page: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=61702 Skip From cncole at earthlink.net Wed Jun 6 14:55:40 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 07:55:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <18022.42062.229791.259145@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Spambayes regeneration is a primary cause of the problem, if not the exclusive cause. The effect is deterministic, and without any error trapping as I noted. The lack of error trapping for this is serious, even if not within the Spambayes code implented so far and even if it is only a Microsoft "feature". I made no request to audit that code myself, and am not inexperienced in coding and software technology. I have no doubt that Mark knows the code he wrote very well, but the deterministic path of this damaging error runs from Spambayes through OutLook and into the Windows registry without traps and is a detectable error condition. My report of this problem of no trapping for a damaging error (and any other such reports) should simply go on the spindle of things to consider someday or be cautioned in the docs if too hard for Spambayes to trap. Such problems should not simply be ignored as you suggest. I don't believe ignoring serious usage hazards is good practice. Most folks do not consider untrapped bugs to be entertaining, but YMMV. I have a remedial solution for the effect that I implemented on my own. I will be cautious in using Spambayes to prevent this or other unguarded problems from occurring again. Pity that Spambayes functions cannot be trusted to not damage OutLook data. I thanked Mark for his patience and diligence in exploring this with me. His responses were helpful, though did not contribute to a solution of any kind. Your response doesn't seem germane to actual problem solving at all. Chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:11 AM > To: cncole at earthlink.net; spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook > > > > As he is the author of the SpamBayes Outlook plugin, I've no > doubt that what > Mark wrote about how it works is correct. It would appear > you don't have > that level of confidence. You are, of course, more than > welcome to audit > the code of the plugin yourself. Since it is open source, it > is available > to you. You can browse the code online via this link: > > http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/spambayes/ > > Alternatively, you can simply check the code out of the CVS > repository by > following the instructions on this page: > > http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=61702 > > Skip > From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu Jun 7 03:32:23 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:32:23 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0ab401c7a8a3$b35fbcc0$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> This will be my last mail on this matter: > Spambayes regeneration is a primary cause of the problem, if not the > exclusive cause. The effect is deterministic, and without any error > trapping as I noted. I do not believe it is deterministic. I do not believe you will be able to reproduce spambayes causing PST files to be opened, nor reproduce spambayes breaking "links" in PST files (whatever you mean by "links" in that context - its not a term used with PST files). In short, I believe you are fundamentally incorrect about everything other than what you saw, but please do take this opportunity to prove me wrong about this and demonstrate spambayes doing what you describe. I understand you might not have the time or inclination for that, but you must also understand I have no time for your demonstrably incorrect speculation. > The lack of error trapping for this is serious, > even if not within the Spambayes code implented so far and > even if it is > only a Microsoft "feature". See above - once you can demonstrate the problem is indeed deterministic and caused by spambayes, I'll be happy to look at ways to prevent spambayes doing it. However, while I am certain spambayes did not do what you describe, it makes no sense for spambayes to catch or trap anything. > I made no request to audit that code myself, and am not > inexperienced in coding and software technology. All due respect, it is clear that your experience does not run deep. That is not a critisism - I am sure you are highly skilled in whatever it is you do, but quite clearly PC technology and coding is not such a strength. You do yourself and us a disservice by trying to pretend it is. > I have no doubt that Mark knows the > code he wrote very well, but the deterministic path of this damaging > error runs from Spambayes through OutLook and into the > Windows registry > without traps and is a detectable error condition. > > My report of this problem of no trapping for a damaging error (and any > other such reports) should simply go on the spindle of things to > consider someday or be cautioned in the docs if too hard for Spambayes > to trap. Such problems should not simply be ignored as you > suggest. I > don't believe ignoring serious usage hazards is good practice. Most > folks do not consider untrapped bugs to be entertaining, but YMMV. Again, the above makes no sense at all if we assume my description of how spambayes works is correct (and it is). I understand it can be hard to get around some of this technology, but statements like "the deterministic path of this damaging error runs from Spambayes through OutLook and into the Windows registry without traps and is a detectable error condition" makes no sense at all and tends to erode any credibility you may have started with. > I have a remedial solution for the effect that I implemented > on my own. > I will be cautious in using Spambayes to prevent this or > other unguarded > problems from occurring again. Pity that Spambayes functions cannot be > trusted to not damage OutLook data. >From that mail of yours, you said: > While Spambayes triggered the largest > catastrophe I have ever seen Hyperbole doesn't encourage people to help you. > it was not the only catastrophe and I have > had a wholly unrelated example of this same type with a single PST "main > file" from previous years. You may like to reflect on this comment and the paragraphs that follow, as they clearly indicate spambayes had no role in either the initial problem or your final solution. You might like to consider how many days and angst you would have saved had you not jumped to conclusions. Mark From tim.peters at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 04:16:26 2007 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:16:26 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <0ab401c7a8a3$b35fbcc0$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> References: <0ab401c7a8a3$b35fbcc0$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: <1f7befae0706061916g7486abcej1ca385f9302a9207@mail.gmail.com> [Mark Hammond] > ... > See above - once you can demonstrate the problem is indeed > deterministic and caused by spambayes, I'll be happy to look at ways > to prevent spambayes doing it. Chuck, if this isn't clear, the developers don't know what you're talking about ;-), but would be happy to pursue this if you could supply a recipe with sufficient detail so that they could provoke "the problem" /themselves/. You're a bright guy, so I'm sure you could do this. What you can't succeed at is speculating about how to "fix the problem", because you don't know how SpamBayes works. The developers know that, but what /they/ don't know is an exact set of steps to follow to reproduce the problem you're having on their own machines. Stick to describing that, and some good may come of this yet ... From cncole at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 04:58:53 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:58:53 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <0ab401c7a8a3$b35fbcc0$1f0a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:32 PM > > This will be my last mail on this matter: Mine too. It's not worth my effort to prove the repeatability of damage to my data archives that has already been seen repeatedly here, and had the causality relationship defined and bounded for your possible consideration. It's true that I am not a desktop PC programmer. I am a chip and system architect for full-custom embedded computer systems (for aircraft, etc) that demonstrate both life-critical and mission-critical fault tolerance. Such features and functional integrity is likely to be beyond the reach of desktop PC technology. Formal government system reviews have verified my competence at this numerous times. However, I have always assumed you knew the possible fault loopholes in your desktop world and have deferred by making somewhat general suggestions. The definition (list) of what folders to check is defined in Spambayes and not elsewhere. There is no trap anywhere for the condition that they are not presently associated with Outlook, and that it is not safe to proceed with regeneration scanning. If a verifiable bug report is not taken more seriously, it is certainly not worth my time here either. Thanks, Chuck > > > Spambayes regeneration is a primary cause of the problem, if not the > > exclusive cause. The effect is deterministic, and without > any error > > trapping as I noted. > > I do not believe it is deterministic. I do not believe you > will be able to > reproduce spambayes causing PST files to be opened, nor > reproduce spambayes > breaking "links" in PST files (whatever you mean by "links" in that > context - its not a term used with PST files). In short, I > believe you are > fundamentally incorrect about everything other than what you > saw, but please > do take this opportunity to prove me wrong about this and demonstrate > spambayes doing what you describe. I understand you might > not have the time > or inclination for that, but you must also understand I have > no time for > your demonstrably incorrect speculation. > > > The lack of error trapping for this is serious, > > even if not within the Spambayes code implented so far and > > even if it is > > only a Microsoft "feature". > > See above - once you can demonstrate the problem is indeed > deterministic and > caused by spambayes, I'll be happy to look at ways to prevent > spambayes > doing it. However, while I am certain spambayes did not do what you > describe, it makes no sense for spambayes to catch or trap anything. > > > I made no request to audit that code myself, and am not > > inexperienced in coding and software technology. > > All due respect, it is clear that your experience does not > run deep. That > is not a critisism - I am sure you are highly skilled in > whatever it is you > do, but quite clearly PC technology and coding is not such a > strength. You > do yourself and us a disservice by trying to pretend it is. > > > I have no doubt that Mark knows the > > code he wrote very well, but the deterministic path of this damaging > > error runs from Spambayes through OutLook and into the > > Windows registry > > without traps and is a detectable error condition. > > > > My report of this problem of no trapping for a damaging > error (and any > > other such reports) should simply go on the spindle of things to > > consider someday or be cautioned in the docs if too hard > for Spambayes > > to trap. Such problems should not simply be ignored as you > > suggest. I > > don't believe ignoring serious usage hazards is good practice. Most > > folks do not consider untrapped bugs to be entertaining, but YMMV. > > Again, the above makes no sense at all if we assume my > description of how > spambayes works is correct (and it is). I understand it can > be hard to get > around some of this technology, but statements like "the > deterministic path > of this damaging error runs from Spambayes through OutLook > and into the > Windows registry without traps and is a detectable error > condition" makes no > sense at all and tends to erode any credibility you may have > started with. > > > I have a remedial solution for the effect that I implemented > > on my own. > > I will be cautious in using Spambayes to prevent this or > > other unguarded > > problems from occurring again. Pity that Spambayes > functions cannot be > > trusted to not damage OutLook data. > > From that mail of yours, you said: > > > While Spambayes triggered the largest > > catastrophe I have ever seen > > Hyperbole doesn't encourage people to help you. > > > it was not the only catastrophe and I have > > had a wholly unrelated example of this same type with a > single PST "main > > file" from previous years. > > You may like to reflect on this comment and the paragraphs > that follow, as > they clearly indicate spambayes had no role in either the > initial problem or > your final solution. You might like to consider how many > days and angst you > would have saved had you not jumped to conclusions. > > Mark > > From cncole at earthlink.net Thu Jun 7 05:08:40 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:08:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <1f7befae0706061916g7486abcej1ca385f9302a9207@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.peters at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:16 PM > To: cncole at earthlink.net > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook > > > [Mark Hammond] > > ... > > See above - once you can demonstrate the problem is indeed > > deterministic and caused by spambayes, I'll be happy to look at ways > > to prevent spambayes doing it. > > Chuck, if this isn't clear, the developers don't know what you're > talking about ;-), That's quite clear :-) I have defined the problem adequately to leave it as a bug report, and I have found a remedy for the effects I've had. As noted in my last email to Mark, I am through discussing this and wholly uninterested in debugging Spambayes myself. but would be happy to pursue this if you could > supply a recipe with sufficient detail so that they could provoke "the > problem" /themselves/. That was never clear at all. I already gave enough exact definition for those familiar with the specific desktop things to reproduce or examine the fault to any degree it is reproducible elsewhere (I'm using OutLook 2000 and WinXP). They work with those tools by choice and may know how to spot loopholes for errors. I only dropped in to report an bug and look for a solution. That's done now. Chuck > From gerhard at bastir.at Thu Jun 7 11:54:07 2007 From: gerhard at bastir.at (Gerhard Bastir) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:54:07 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Recover from Spam/Delete as Spam not working Message-ID: Hi All, Outlook 2000 Spambayes 1.0.4 Windows XP SP2 Spam bayes works great on incoming messages but since few days the buttons appears not working. Also after changing folders suspect messages still in Junk Suspects. Checked all FAQ, did every hint but no result. Any recommendation? Regards from Austria Gerhard No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/837 - Release Date: 06.06.2007 14:03 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Try retraining SpamBayes via the "Training" tab, and select the "rebuild entire database" option - this should remove the old DB and replace it with a good one. > Regards from Austria Regards from Australia :) Mark From bill at billmarsano.com Sat Jun 9 15:50:23 2007 From: bill at billmarsano.com (Bill Marsano) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 09:50:23 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieval from spambayes Message-ID: <000c01c7aa9d$206c3be0$1bf1edcf@Underwood> Just this minute, while watching messages being downloaded, I saw a message come in from an old friend. Suddenly it disappeared --removed, I imagine by Spambayes. And not listed among Junk suspects. How do I get it back? How do I tell Spambayes to accept this sender? Thank you, Bill Marsano -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070609/c3d9099f/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Mon Jun 11 14:15:00 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:15:00 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieval from spambayes In-Reply-To: <000c01c7aa9d$206c3be0$1bf1edcf@Underwood> References: <000c01c7aa9d$206c3be0$1bf1edcf@Underwood> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905991945@PKCVT01.pkc.com> If SpamBayes is responsible, it'll be in either your spam folder or your possible spam folder. Either way, once you've located it, use the "Not Spam" or "Recover from Spam" button (depending on your version) to tell SpamBayes that it's not actually spam. Since SpamBayes processes tokens other than the sender, you may have to train on more than one. However, I'd recommend looking at the message before clicking the "Not Spam" button. It's possible that, despite the apparent sender, the message really is spam. If SpamBayes is not responsible for the movement of your message, you'll need to look elsewhere. You appear to be running Outlook, so perhaps Outlook or Exchange moved the message. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Bill Marsano Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] retrieval from spambayes Just this minute, while watching messages being downloaded, I saw a message come in from an old friend. Suddenly it disappeared --removed, I imagine by Spambayes. And not listed among Junk suspects. How do I get it back? How do I tell Spambayes to accept this sender? Thank you, Bill Marsano -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thks, Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070611/2f958eac/attachment.html From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon Jun 11 22:48:38 2007 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:48:38 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook References: Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50099327B3@spike.city> I was unaware of this discussion until now, but I've seen the problem Chuck describes or one very similar to it. I think, in fact, that it happened to me on two different occasions. And when it did, it took a lonnnnng time to get cured. Unfortunately, I've forgotten how I finally cured it or whether it just went away finally. I did split one large .pst file in two in the hope of preventing a recurrence. In any event, it hasn't happened lately (i.e., for at least a year and maybe two). At the time, I didn't think my problem was related to Spambayes, but conceivably it was. If I remember more about it (or, God forbid, it happens to me again), I'll post a message. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Cole > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:09 PM > To: Tim Peters > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.peters at gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:16 PM > > To: cncole at earthlink.net > > Cc: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links > in OuchLook > > > > > > [Mark Hammond] > > > ... > > > See above - once you can demonstrate the problem is indeed > > > deterministic and caused by spambayes, I'll be happy to > look at ways > > > to prevent spambayes doing it. > > > > Chuck, if this isn't clear, the developers don't know what you're > > talking about ;-), > > That's quite clear :-) > > I have defined the problem adequately to leave it as a bug > report, and I have found a remedy for the effects I've had. > > As noted in my last email to Mark, I am through discussing > this and wholly uninterested in debugging Spambayes myself. > > > > > but would be happy to pursue this if you could > > supply a recipe with sufficient detail so that they could > provoke "the > > problem" /themselves/. > > That was never clear at all. > > I already gave enough exact definition for those familiar > with the specific desktop things to reproduce or examine the > fault to any degree it is reproducible elsewhere (I'm using > OutLook 2000 and WinXP). They work with those tools by > choice and may know how to spot loopholes for errors. > > I only dropped in to report an bug and look for a solution. > That's done now. > > > Chuck > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From jsp at PKC.com Tue Jun 12 14:27:16 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:27:16 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] "Recover from spam" button missing from Junk Suspects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905991B75@PKCVT01.pkc.com> It sounds like you haven't told SpamBayes to put possible spam in the Junk Suspects folder. (This makes sense to me. I like to have SpamBayes put spam and possible spam in different folders than Outlook does, partly so I can keep track of who's doing what, but mainly so I can have SpamBayes process messages that Outlook thinks look like spam.) You can use the SpamBayes Manager (available on the menu that drops down when you click SpamBayes on the Outlook toolbar) to check how your filtering is set up. The Filtering tab allows you to specify where spam and possible spam should go. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Chris Herrmann Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:39 PM To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] "Recover from spam" button missing from Junk Suspects Hi - Do you have any suggestions as to how i can get the "Recover from spam" button to appear for the Junk Suspects folder (the delete as spam appears). I have latest version spambayes, Win XP, Outlook 2003. Thks, Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070612/1e6792eb/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Tue Jun 12 14:48:14 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:48:14 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] "Recover from spam" button missing from Junk Suspects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905991B92@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Well, then, I'm mystified. Maybe someone else on the list will have an idea. (Be sure to reply to all, so a) you get the benefit of everyone's insight and b) your messages are archived for future reference by people who have a similar problem.) ________________________________ From: Chris Herrmann [mailto:chrish at infotec.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:45 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] "Recover from spam" button missing from Junk Suspects Thanks for your reply - No I do have possible spam going into the Junk Suspects folder - that's the problem there is no "Recover from spam" button to recover good emails from this folder. This folder does have a delete spam button -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Tuesday, 12 June 2007 9:57 PM To: Chris Herrmann; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] "Recover from spam" button missing from Junk Suspects It sounds like you haven't told SpamBayes to put possible spam in the Junk Suspects folder. (This makes sense to me. I like to have SpamBayes put spam and possible spam in different folders than Outlook does, partly so I can keep track of who's doing what, but mainly so I can have SpamBayes process messages that Outlook thinks look like spam.) You can use the SpamBayes Manager (available on the menu that drops down when you click SpamBayes on the Outlook toolbar) to check how your filtering is set up. The Filtering tab allows you to specify where spam and possible spam should go. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Chris Herrmann Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:39 PM To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] "Recover from spam" button missing from Junk Suspects Hi - Do you have any suggestions as to how i can get the "Recover from spam" button to appear for the Junk Suspects folder (the delete as spam appears). I have latest version spambayes, Win XP, Outlook 2003. Thks, Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070612/244c3754/attachment.htm From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Tue Jun 12 17:34:05 2007 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:34:05 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50099327B3@spike.city> Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5009932A1F@spike.city> > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Coe, Bob > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:49 PM > To: cncole at earthlink.net > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook > > I was unaware of this discussion until now, but I've seen the > problem Chuck describes or one very similar to it. I think, > in fact, that it happened to me on two different occasions. > And when it did, it took a lonnnnng time to get cured. > Unfortunately, I've forgotten how I finally cured it or > whether it just went away finally. I did split one large .pst > file in two in the hope of preventing a recurrence. In any > event, it hasn't happened lately (i.e., for at least a year > and maybe two). > > At the time, I didn't think my problem was related to > Spambayes, but conceivably it was. If I remember more about > it (or, God forbid, it happens to me again), I'll post a message. > > Bob I now think I recall that the solution is to substitute a new "Outlook profile"; indeed, there may even be a Microsoft paper dealing with the issue. (N.B.: A user's Outlook profile is not the same as his Windows roaming profile or any of the other profiles one commonly sees mentioned. At least pre-Vista, "profile" is the most overloaded word in the Microsoft argot.) Creating a new Outlook profile (and persuading Outlook to use it) is not exactly trivial, and a discussion of how to do it (even if I thought I could explain it adequately) is beyond the scope of this mailing list. But I'm almost certain that there *is* a Microsoft paper that describes how to do that. Assuming I'm remembering correctly, note that the solution is independent of whether Spambayes had a role in creating the probem. Bob From cncole at earthlink.net Tue Jun 12 18:20:48 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:20:48 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5009932A1F@spike.city> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Coe, Bob [mailto:rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:34 AM > > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Coe, Bob > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:49 PM > > To: cncole at earthlink.net > > > > At the time, I didn't think my problem was related to > > Spambayes, but conceivably it was. If I remember more about > > it (or, God forbid, it happens to me again), I'll post a message. > > > > Bob > > I now think I recall that the solution is to substitute a new "Outlook > profile"; indeed, there may even be a Microsoft paper dealing with the > issue. (N.B.: A user's Outlook profile is not the same as his Windows > roaming profile or any of the other profiles one commonly sees > mentioned. At least pre-Vista, "profile" is the most > overloaded word in > the Microsoft argot.) Creating a new Outlook profile (and persuading > Outlook to use it) is not exactly trivial, and a discussion > of how to do > it (even if I thought I could explain it adequately) is > beyond the scope > of this mailing list. But I'm almost certain that there *is* > a Microsoft > paper that describes how to do that. > > Assuming I'm remembering correctly, note that the solution is > independent of whether Spambayes had a role in creating the probem. > > Bob Profiles weren't a good choice for me. Either didn't work or trashes lots of stuff in the process. Microsoft suggested a way to do surgery to OutLook in the Registry by simply removing the "stuck" PST files from the collection. That was quick and clean, but an error might be dangerous. I found that SpamBayes is not the only way to corrupt these PST bindings, but it is an assured and conspicuous way to do so. Chuck From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Tue Jun 12 18:54:59 2007 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:54:59 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook References: Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5009932AAA@spike.city> > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Cole > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:08 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook > > > I made a mistake and updated the Spambayes junk and good data > using some archival pst files that were not attached at the > time. Spambayes found and attached them, but in doing so, > destroyed some data Outlook needs so I can "close" them or > see their "advanced properties". I cannot find a repair tool > or instruction after diligent looking. > > I need to "close" these extra huge PST files and cannot. I > can access their contents and could empty them to alternate > pst files, but cannot fix the broken links and risk losing > very big and important archives. > > Is there any repair tool I can try? > > Can Spambayes be made to avoid this file corruption? > > Can Spambayes heal the link parameters of extra PST files? The last thing I want to do is to restart Chuck's argument with Mark, but I think I detect a possible misconception in the above text. Outlook will cheerfully open and attach any closed .pst file within reach if you refer to it from inside Outlook itself. It doesn't require any involvement by Spambayes for that to happen. Bob From cncole at earthlink.net Tue Jun 12 21:51:13 2007 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:51:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5009932AAA@spike.city> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Coe, Bob [mailto:rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:55 AM > To: cncole at earthlink.net > > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Cole > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:08 AM > > To: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes trashes PST file links in OuchLook > > > > > > I made a mistake and updated the Spambayes junk and good data > > using some archival pst files that were not attached at the > > time. Spambayes found and attached them, but in doing so, > > destroyed some data Outlook needs so I can "close" them or > > see their "advanced properties". I cannot find a repair tool > > or instruction after diligent looking. > > > > I need to "close" these extra huge PST files and cannot. I > > can access their contents and could empty them to alternate > > pst files, but cannot fix the broken links and risk losing > > very big and important archives. > > > > Is there any repair tool I can try? > > > > Can Spambayes be made to avoid this file corruption? > > > > Can Spambayes heal the link parameters of extra PST files? > > The last thing I want to do is to restart Chuck's argument with Mark, > but I think I detect a possible misconception in the above > text. Outlook > will cheerfully open and attach any closed .pst file within > reach if you > refer to it from inside Outlook itself. It doesn't require any > involvement by Spambayes for that to happen. > > Bob That was not the case. The action was begun wholly within SpamBayes. What you say may indeed be true but is secondary or irrelevant. If SpamBayes cannot check, then it should ask the user if the check has been done before proceeding and resulting in a corrupt Registry and/or whatever. Chuck From snakapak at xtra.co.nz Wed Jun 13 01:52:19 2007 From: snakapak at xtra.co.nz (Seamus Lyons) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:52:19 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Microsoft Outlook rules not operating...... Message-ID: <000801c7ad4c$b7360900$0202fea9@terminal> Hi guys, Have looked through frequently asked questions and other help pages but am either blind or there is no question covering this issue. I am running Win2K with Outlook2000 and Spam Bayes 1.0.4. My problem is that I have set up multiple Outlook mail rules for the distribution of INBOX entries to subsidiary folders and they have stopped working after SPAM BAYES was installed. All messages remain in the Inbox rather than appearing in the subsidiary folders. I have to move the inbound messages manually. Is this a known problem and is there a simple fix? Regards Seamus Lyons. Snak-A-Pak Products P O Box 147 - 265 Ponsonby Ph: (09) 6205626 Fax: (09) 6205625 Cell: (027) 2789078 E-mail: snakapak at xtra.co.nz No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.14/845 - Release Date: 12/06/07 06:39 AM From ilandanon at bezeqint.net Wed Jun 13 10:02:41 2007 From: ilandanon at bezeqint.net (Ilan D.) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:02:41 +0300 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambaye will not work for me any more...? Message-ID: <000c01c7ad91$37abaf10$0f02a8c0@ddf78bced04e4c5> Dear spambayes, I am a very satisfied costumer! I'm using Spambayes on Outlook for the last two years regularly and reinstalled it every time I've changed system or hardware. For some reason, two days ago the "delete as spam" button disappeared and the "recover from spam" button replaced id even when in "inbox" and none of the buttons actually do anything. I've tried your trouble shooting recommendations with no success so finally I removed the program and tried to reinstall, re download and install restarting the PC every time, clearing registry. and for some reason it doesn't work any more. When I start Outlook the wizard doesn't start and there is no indication for spambays activity. Can you please advice? Ilan. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070613/ef0e7245/attachment.html From fturtle at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 15:32:44 2007 From: fturtle at gmail.com (Fast Turtle) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 06:32:44 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambaye will not work for me any more...? In-Reply-To: <000c01c7ad91$37abaf10$0f02a8c0@ddf78bced04e4c5> References: <000c01c7ad91$37abaf10$0f02a8c0@ddf78bced04e4c5> Message-ID: <01D4393AE2894037B058E288419D6BCF@Hydra> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ilan D." To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: [Spambayes] Spambaye will not work for me any more...? > Dear spambayes, > > I am a very satisfied costumer! I'm using Spambayes on Outlook for the > last > two years regularly and reinstalled it every time I've changed system or > hardware. For some reason, two days ago the "delete as spam" button > disappeared and the "recover from spam" button replaced id even when in > "inbox" and none of the buttons actually do anything. I've tried your > trouble shooting recommendations with no success so finally I removed the > program and tried to reinstall, re download and install restarting the PC > every time, clearing registry. and for some reason it doesn't work any > more. > When I start Outlook the wizard doesn't start and there is no indication > for > spambays activity. Can you please advice? > > Ilan. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html First thing I would do is select the tools/options menu in outlook and go to the last tab. Under that, select the advanced and manage add-ons. Simply delete the spambayes plug-in as Windows is preventing it from being replaced then attempt to reinstall. If this doesn't work, you'll have to remove the database files located under your username either in application data/spambayes or local settings/application/data/spambayes. For Win2k/XP these will be found in the Documents & Settings folder. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(??????, ??????, Vip). ???????? ?????? ???????????? ? ??????????: (383)292-67-18 (383)220-41-79 (383)357-50-84 ------------------------------------ Mail.Ru - ??????, ????????, ???????! ------------------------------------ From skip at pobox.com Fri Jun 15 20:20:32 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:20:32 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <46724549.80104@exports.com.au> References: <46724549.80104@exports.com.au> Message-ID: <18034.55408.676761.469391@montanaro.dyndns.org> Bob> Can your program work with Thunderbird 2? Yes, assuming you fetch your email from your mail server via POP3 or IMAP there are SpamBayes applications which support those two protocols. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From annettesells at comcast.net Sat Jun 16 22:37:40 2007 From: annettesells at comcast.net (Annette Merritt, Realtor) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:37:40 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Help Message-ID: <20070616204749.967A21E4003@bag.python.org> I deleted the junk suspects folder that I had.(I guess I did because it's not showing in my folders in Outlook Do I have to remove the program and re load it or is there a way to get it (junk suspects) back. I added the junk suspects folder myself but nothing has been going in there. All was working well up to that point. Can you help me? Thanks., Annette Annette Merritt, REALTORR AMERIVEST REALTY 10001 Tamiami Trail N., Naples, FL 34108 239-513-1381 Direct 239-272-6773 Mobile Click on www.AnnetteMerritt.com - and visit thousands of Southwest Florida listings. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070616/d39df4c1/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I added the junk suspects folder myself but nothing has been going in there. All was working well up to that point. Can you help me? Thanks., Annette Annette Merritt, REALTOR(r) AMERIVEST REALTY 10001 Tamiami Trail N., Naples, FL 34108 239-513-1381 Direct 239-272-6773 Mobile Click on www.AnnetteMerritt.com - and visit thousands of Southwest Florida listings. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070618/13d65e8f/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is like a ghost email except that many of these appear in my spam folder Plse can you advise Regds Paul morris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070618/caa0d1df/attachment.htm From CBarks at rgare.com Tue Jun 19 21:15:16 2007 From: CBarks at rgare.com (Barks, Christine) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:15:16 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing emails? Message-ID: Is it possible for my junk emails to be deleted even before they get sent to a junk mail folder? Or suspect junk mail? Newcoming emails pop up in the bottom right hand corner of my computer for a split second and then disappear and I can't find them anywhere. Albeit they are mostly junk email, but shouldn't I have the final decision on what to delete? Christine A. Barks Sr. Administrative Assistant Tax/Legal RGA - Tax and Legal phone: 636.736.8210 fax #: 636.736.8610 email: cbarks at rgare.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070619/eba0afd3/attachment.html From spiritbear at pcfl.net Tue Jun 19 23:09:36 2007 From: spiritbear at pcfl.net (Spirit Bear) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:09:36 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing emails? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003601c7b2b6$30437df0$ceec64d0@carlsw> Christine, my wife and I have been using Spambayes for about two weeks now. In that period of time we have received over 8000 spam emails. Not once has Spambayes identified a valid email as spam. The way I understand the program works is that it has to classify an email as 100% spam before it will move it to a spam folder. I haven't paid really close attention to the suspect folder - and everything in it has been spam ; but it looks like if an email is 40% or greater, but less than 100%, Spambayes moves the email to the suspect folder. Spambayes does not delete anything, at least in MS Outlook; it simply moves spam and suspect emails to the appropriate folder. Are you on a network? It is possible that the network is running some sort of anti-spam program. Just my $0.02. Carl Swofford -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Barks, Christine Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:15 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Missing emails? Is it possible for my junk emails to be deleted even before they get sent to a junk mail folder? Or suspect junk mail? Newcoming emails pop up in the bottom right hand corner of my computer for a split second and then disappear and I can't find them anywhere. Albeit they are mostly junk email, but shouldn't I have the final decision on what to delete? Christine A. Barks Sr. Administrative Assistant Tax/Legal RGA - Tax and Legal phone: 636.736.8210 fax #: 636.736.8610 email: cbarks at rgare.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070619/10e27dc8/attachment.htm From lisa at mcec.ca Wed Jun 20 17:39:32 2007 From: lisa at mcec.ca (Lisa Williams) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:39:32 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Microsoft 2007 Message-ID: <000001c7b351$32b53dd0$981fb970$@ca> Is SpamBayes compatible with MSO 2007? Lisa Williams Director of Communications Mennonite Church Eastern Canada 4489 King St. E., Kitchener, ON N2P 2G2 Tel: 519.650.3806 / 800.206.9356 x 112 Fax: 519.650.3947 Email: lisa at mcec.ca Website: www.mcec.ca ------------------------------------ MCEC: A community of congregations extending the peace of Jesus Christ... ------------------------------------ This email message, including attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary, and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any unauthorized distribution, copying, disclosure, or dissemination of this transmission or taking of any action in reliance on its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this email message immediately. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070620/64644144/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Wed Jun 20 18:54:19 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Microsoft 2007 In-Reply-To: <000001c7b351$32b53dd0$981fb970$@ca> References: <000001c7b351$32b53dd0$981fb970$@ca> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905A0B77D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I assume you mean Outlook 2007, in which case I'm not sure anyone knows for sure at the moment. I did a Google search for "spambayes outlook 2007" and turned up a number of reports of problems. However, it's possible that some or all are because of Vista rather than Outlook. One of the more interesting is http://www.nabble.com/--spambayes-Bugs-1619690---Error-initializing-addi n-under-Outlook-2007---Vista-Ultimate-t3890723.html. If you give it a try, please send a note to the list describing your experience. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:40 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Microsoft 2007 Is SpamBayes compatible with MSO 2007? Lisa Williams Director of Communications Mennonite Church Eastern Canada 4489 King St. E., Kitchener, ON N2P 2G2 Tel: 519.650.3806 / 800.206.9356 x 112 Fax: 519.650.3947 Email: lisa at mcec.ca Website: www.mcec.ca ------------------------------------ MCEC: A community of congregations extending the peace of Jesus Christ... ------------------------------------ This email message, including attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary, and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any unauthorized distribution, copying, disclosure, or dissemination of this transmission or taking of any action in reliance on its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this email message immediately. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070620/aa48696d/attachment.htm From newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Wed Jun 20 19:13:31 2007 From: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de (Peter Flindt) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:13:31 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Microsoft 2007 In-Reply-To: <000001c7b351$32b53dd0$981fb970$@ca> References: <000001c7b351$32b53dd0$981fb970$@ca> Message-ID: <009901c7b35e$5621ec70$0265c550$@de> Hello, I have read some comments about Outlook 2007, Spambayes 1.0.4. works here without any problems, and filter out spam very well. (OL2007 from Office 2007 professional on Vista 32 Ultimate) With newer versions from spambayes I can confirm the same issues in the link from jesse. Peter -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] Im Auftrag von Lisa Williams Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2007 17:40 An: spambayes at python.org Betreff: [Spambayes] Microsoft 2007 Is SpamBayes compatible with MSO 2007? Lisa Williams Director of Communications Mennonite Church Eastern Canada 4489 King St. E., Kitchener, ON N2P 2G2 Tel: 519.650.3806 / 800.206.9356 x 112 Fax: 519.650.3947 Email: lisa at mcec.ca Website: www.mcec.ca ------------------------------------ MCEC: A community of congregations extending the peace of Jesus Christ... ------------------------------------ This email message, including attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary, and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any unauthorized distribution, copying, disclosure, or dissemination of this transmission or taking of any action in reliance on its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this email message immediately. From kzemlin at cheap-tracks.com Wed Jun 20 22:13:43 2007 From: kzemlin at cheap-tracks.com (Karl Zemlin) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:13:43 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Microsoft 2007 In-Reply-To: <000001c7b351$32b53dd0$981fb970$@ca> References: <000001c7b351$32b53dd0$981fb970$@ca> Message-ID: <001b01c7b377$8027f190$8077d4b0$@com> Just loaded up 2007 on a new computer (homebuilt) this weekend. Copied the spambayes database files from my old computer and all is doing just fine so far. From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:40 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Microsoft 2007 Is SpamBayes compatible with MSO 2007? Lisa Williams Director of Communications Mennonite Church Eastern Canada 4489 King St. E., Kitchener, ON N2P 2G2 Tel: 519.650.3806 / 800.206.9356 x 112 Fax: 519.650.3947 Email: lisa at mcec.ca Website: www.mcec.ca ------------------------------------ MCEC: A community of congregations extending the peace of Jesus Christ... ------------------------------------ This email message, including attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary, and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any unauthorized distribution, copying, disclosure, or dissemination of this transmission or taking of any action in reliance on its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this email message immediately. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This covers things that are obvious spam/malware instead of spambayes having to process them, which seemed to speed up the development of a proper database of what I consider spam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barks, Christine" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: [Spambayes] Missing emails? Is it possible for my junk emails to be deleted even before they get sent to a junk mail folder? Or suspect junk mail? Newcoming emails pop up in the bottom right hand corner of my computer for a split second and then disappear and I can't find them anywhere. Albeit they are mostly junk email, but shouldn't I have the final decision on what to delete? Christine A. Barks Sr. Administrative Assistant Tax/Legal RGA - Tax and Legal phone: 636.736.8210 fax #: 636.736.8610 email: cbarks at rgare.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 2826 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070622/6c578250/attachment.bin From spiritbear at pcfl.net Fri Jun 22 23:51:38 2007 From: spiritbear at pcfl.net (Spirit Bear) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:51:38 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing emails? In-Reply-To: <005601c7b4eb$30468270$0501a8c0@hydra> Message-ID: <002401c7b517$8d8caaf0$cfed64d0@carlsw> I did just the opposite to train Spambayes. I disabled my Outlook junk filter. I want Spambayes to recognize all of the junk. Carl S -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+spiritbear=pcfl.net at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+spiritbear=pcfl.net at python.org] On Behalf Of Fast Turtle Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 11:34 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Missing emails? Assuming you're using Outlook, it sounds like the MS Junk Mail filter is active and permanently deleting things before spambayes gets to look at it. Simply change the setting from permanently delete to move to junk mail folder or turn it off. In my case, I found it eases my spambayes training by ensuring that known junk mail (rules based) isn't even processed by Spambayes. This covers things that are obvious spam/malware instead of spambayes having to process them, which seemed to speed up the development of a proper database of what I consider spam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barks, Christine" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: [Spambayes] Missing emails? Is it possible for my junk emails to be deleted even before they get sent to a junk mail folder? Or suspect junk mail? Newcoming emails pop up in the bottom right hand corner of my computer for a split second and then disappear and I can't find them anywhere. Albeit they are mostly junk email, but shouldn't I have the final decision on what to delete? Christine A. Barks Sr. Administrative Assistant Tax/Legal RGA - Tax and Legal phone: 636.736.8210 fax #: 636.736.8610 email: cbarks at rgare.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From institute at softspecialist.com Tue Jun 26 14:40:24 2007 From: institute at softspecialist.com (SoftSpecialist Institute) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:40:24 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Free software downloads - Spambayes safe to download Message-ID: <47b3a5270706260540w116dbbd8m5e13c203fb6bb69c@mail.gmail.com> Dear Spam Bayes Team, Your software, SpamBayes, was tested for malware such as viruses, spyware, trojans, computer system damages etc. by our team of specialists from Softspecialist Institute and was found to be a completely safe software product. Consequently, it was accepted and included in http://www.softspecialist.com/ SoftSpecialist Quality Software Catalog: your program meets our high standards of quality. Please note that, in order to assure the accuracy of the information presented on our website, we will continue to test it periodically . Software page http://www.softspecialist.com/SpamBayes-207/SpamBayes.htm Download page http://www.softspecialist.com/SpamBayes-207/SpamBayes-download_2.htm We wish you to keep up the standards high as you already did until now and we'll be happy to tell this to the world. Yours sincerely, SoftSpecialist Institute Laboratories Team Software submit http://www.softspecialist.com/i/submit-software-program.htm From mevangeliste at groupeled.com Tue Jun 26 18:19:18 2007 From: mevangeliste at groupeled.com (mevangeliste at groupeled.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:19:18 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spamed? In-Reply-To: <200706261619.l5QGJ884031289@mail776.megamailservers.com> References: <200706261619.l5QGJ884031289@mail776.megamailservers.com> Message-ID: <200706261619.l5QGJIXE031358@mail776.megamailservers.com> Bonjour, Je serai en vacances du 25juin au 2 juillet . I will be on vacation from june 25 to july 2 Sincerely, Marc Evangeliste From stefan.huettenrauch at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de Tue Jun 26 23:22:17 2007 From: stefan.huettenrauch at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_H=FCttenrauch?=) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:22:17 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Office 2007 Message-ID: <000001c7b838$1c2eb190$548c14b0$@huettenrauch@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> Hi, Do you actually support MSFT Outlook 2007? Regards, Stefan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Grateful for any assistance Nick From jsp at PKC.com Wed Jun 27 13:35:53 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:35:53 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Office 2007 In-Reply-To: <000001c7b838$1c2eb190$548c14b0$@huettenrauch@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> References: <000001c7b838$1c2eb190$548c14b0$@huettenrauch@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905AA7C65@PKCVT01.pkc.com> That seemingly simple question doesn't have a simple, accurate answer. "You" and "support" don't mean the same thing for a free software project maintained by a community of volunteers as they do for, say, a commercial product. As far as I know, none of the developers have Outlook 2007, so a) SpamBayes probably has not been tested as thoroughly with Outlook 2007 as it has with other mail clients, and b) the developers are likely to be less knowledgeable about Outlook 2007. However, there is no official support for the product anyway. This list is the principal means by which people get assistance with SpamBayes, and several postings have indicated good results using SpamBayes with Outlook 2007. However, if you want to know whether there's enterprise-grade support from the SpamBayes developers, the answer is "no," regardless of the mail client. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Stefan H?ttenrauch Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:22 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Office 2007 Hi, Do you actually support MSFT Outlook 2007? Regards, Stefan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070627/b5006fb7/attachment.htm From stefan.huettenrauch at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de Wed Jun 27 13:53:49 2007 From: stefan.huettenrauch at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_H=FCttenrauch?=) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:53:49 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Office 2007 In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905AA7C65@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <000001c7b838$1c2eb190$548c14b0$@huettenrauch@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905AA7C65@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <003f01c7b8b1$d3497f80$79dc7e80$@huettenrauch@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> Hi Jesse, Thanks for your answer. I know that there is a difference. The question was simply meaning, whether your project is running with Outlook 2007 or not or if there are any experiences regarding this version of Outlook. I know, that you cannot give me support in the sence of end-user support. But your answer gives me all I wanted to know. I just try it. Thanks Stefan From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 27. Juni 2007 13:36 To: Stefan H?ttenrauch; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Office 2007 That seemingly simple question doesn't have a simple, accurate answer. "You" and "support" don't mean the same thing for a free software project maintained by a community of volunteers as they do for, say, a commercial product. As far as I know, none of the developers have Outlook 2007, so a) SpamBayes probably has not been tested as thoroughly with Outlook 2007 as it has with other mail clients, and b) the developers are likely to be less knowledgeable about Outlook 2007. However, there is no official support for the product anyway. This list is the principal means by which people get assistance with SpamBayes, and several postings have indicated good results using SpamBayes with Outlook 2007. However, if you want to know whether there's enterprise-grade support from the SpamBayes developers, the answer is "no," regardless of the mail client. _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Stefan H?ttenrauch Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:22 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Office 2007 Hi, Do you actually support MSFT Outlook 2007? Regards, Stefan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070627/8f887c5d/attachment.html From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 19:32:53 2007 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:32:53 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <080301c77650$e0ee66d0$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> References: <080301c77650$e0ee66d0$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: <2a052b990706281032o6220b74dw82bd82c652f8d82c@mail.gmail.com> Di, I'm not sure what version of SpamBayes you're using but the latest version has an "Empty Spam Folder" command on the SpamBayes menu. I believe it is a new feature in the 1.1 version, which is available from the website but is still considered pre-release. On 4/3/07, Mark Hammond wrote: > > SpamBayes does not provide that facility. The best approach is probably > to setup an "auto-archive" for that folder, having it delete any spam > messages over a certain age. Alternative, you can go into the folder, press > Ctrl+A to select all items, then hold the Shift key down while pressing > Delete - the shift key will force full deletion of the selected items rather > than moving them into the "Deleted Items" folder. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] > *On Behalf Of *Di Parsons > *Sent:* Wednesday, 4 April 2007 8:56 AM > *To:* spambayes at python.org > *Subject:* [Spambayes] (no subject) > > Hi, > > I have installed the latest Spambayes but there isn't the facility in the > Manager to empty junk mail. Can you please tell me how to do this quickly, > without deleting each spam email into the deleted items and then emptying > that. > > Thank you, and > > Kind regards, > Di Parsons > > > -- Kenny Pitt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070628/fe9e1388/attachment.htm From spiritbear at pcfl.net Fri Jun 29 02:55:00 2007 From: spiritbear at pcfl.net (Spirit Bear) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:55:00 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes features In-Reply-To: <001201c7b9be$1448d230$3cda7690$@rr.com> Message-ID: <030a01c7b9e8$2a47d390$8bec64d0@carlsw> I have not found that feature necessary. Spambayes has yet to classify a legitimate email as spam or even questionable. Carl -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Gene Rhodes Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:54 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes features I went through the FAQ, screens, and other documentation. Either I am not very good at reading or Spambayes does not allow a list of Email senders that should always be classified as "good". This certainly seems to be a feature that can be used by everyone. Either (1) can cannot find reference to this feature or (2) This feature is not available. Comment? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070628/eac14ef1/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Fri Jun 29 04:08:31 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:08:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes features In-Reply-To: <001201c7b9be$1448d230$3cda7690$@rr.com> References: <001201c7b9be$1448d230$3cda7690$@rr.com> Message-ID: <18052.27039.185955.887368@montanaro.dyndns.org> Gene> I went through the FAQ, screens, and other documentation. Either Gene> I am not very good at reading or Spambayes does not allow a list Gene> of Email senders that should always be classified as "good". This Gene> certainly seems to be a feature that can be used by everyone. Gene> Either (1) can cannot find reference to this feature or (2) This Gene> feature is not available. It's called whitelisting. The FAQ explains why SpamBayes doesn't provide it: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-blacklisting-to-spambayes Skip From StandnOnPromises at aol.com Fri Jun 29 04:30:01 2007 From: StandnOnPromises at aol.com (StandnOnPromises at aol.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:30:01 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] Error-Guard Support Request Message-ID: I had to do restore on my computer, now i need to know how to re-install errorguardback on ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070628/03012e79/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Fri Jun 29 04:48:16 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:48:16 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Error-Guard Support Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18052.29424.136421.812406@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> I had to do restore on my computer, now i need to know how to >> re-install errorguardback on I think you almost certainly have the wrong list. Try visiting the ErrorGuard website: http://www.errorguard.com/ to get help reinstalling that tool. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From nick227 at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jun 27 12:26:10 2007 From: nick227 at tiscali.co.uk (Nick Sandberg) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:26:10 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Spambayes issue Message-ID: I include now the Event log entry, attached. Thanks for your help Nick -----Original Message----- From: Nick Sandberg [mailto:nick227 at tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 27 June 2007 10:48 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Spambayes issue Hi there, I have SpamBayes 1.0.4 installed as an Outlook 2000 add-in on a pc running WinXP Pro and it's totally great. However, I have recently been getting system crashes, about one a week, when opening the Junk Suspects folder. Any ideas on how to resolve this? I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling SpamBayes but this hasn't stopped it. Grateful for any assistance Nick -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: log1.txt Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070627/02751ec6/attachment-0001.txt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: log1.evt Type: application/octet-stream Size: 524208 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070627/02751ec6/attachment-0001.obj From amedee at amedee.be Fri Jun 29 16:22:03 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:22:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes features In-Reply-To: <001201c7b9be$1448d230$3cda7690$@rr.com> References: <001201c7b9be$1448d230$3cda7690$@rr.com> Message-ID: <19369.193.121.250.194.1183126923.squirrel@amedee.be> On Thu, June 28, 2007 21:54, Gene Rhodes wrote: > I went through the FAQ, screens, and other documentation. Either I am not > very good at reading or Spambayes does not allow a list of Email senders > that should always be classified as "good". This certainly seems to be a > feature that can be used by everyone. > > > > Either (1) can cannot find reference to this feature or > (2) This feature is not available. Or (3) this feature is not necessary. Or (4) this feature would *decrease* the quality of spam filtering. -- Amedee From john0831 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 30 04:12:49 2007 From: john0831 at sbcglobal.net (John Davis) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Mail Delivery (failure travel@customercare.expedia.com) Message-ID: <164918.16455.qm@web82101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I went over my itinerary and found that the e-mail I submitted was erroneous. I put down john at sbcglobal.net ; but, should have written john0831 at sbcglobal.net. Would you please make the correction and let me know as soon as possible? Thank you for your help. John L. Davis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070629/8f350955/attachment.html From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Sat Jun 30 15:58:34 2007 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:58:34 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes classification failed! In-Reply-To: <164918.16455.qm@web82101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <164918.16455.qm@web82101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4686618A.9080100@cubiclesoft.com> Today I received an e-mail in my Thunderbird inbox that has a 'X-Spambayes-Classification: spam'. I have a rule set up to automatically and permanently delete e-mails with spam classifications. Somehow the e-mail got by the filter. Filter rule: "For incoming messages that: Match all of the following. 'X-Spambayes-Classification' is 'spam'. Perform these actions: Delete Message." Any developers interested? -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* VerifyMyPC 2.5 Change tracking and management tool. Reduce tech. support times from 2 hours to 5 minutes. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/VerifyMyPC/ From skip at pobox.com Sat Jun 30 16:35:16 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:35:16 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes classification failed! In-Reply-To: <4686618A.9080100@cubiclesoft.com> References: <164918.16455.qm@web82101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4686618A.9080100@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: <18054.27172.70950.462352@montanaro.dyndns.org> Thomas> Today I received an e-mail in my Thunderbird inbox that has a Thomas> 'X-Spambayes-Classification: spam'. I have a rule set up to Thomas> automatically and permanently delete e-mails with spam Thomas> classifications. Somehow the e-mail got by the filter. Thomas> Filter rule: "For incoming messages that: Match all of the Thomas> following. Thomas> 'X-Spambayes-Classification' is 'spam'. Perform these actions: Thomas> Delete Message." Thomas> Any developers interested? I'm not sure what problem you're describing. Is it that SpamBayes incorrectly classified a message or that somehow it added a spam classification header to the message which your T-Bird filter didn't pick up? I'm unsure why you're not just saving spam to a separate folder for later review. Aren't you worried that the occasional ham will be classified as spam and deleted? Skip From spiritbear at pcfl.net Sat Jun 30 17:56:46 2007 From: spiritbear at pcfl.net (Spirit Bear) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:56:46 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes classification failed! In-Reply-To: <18054.27172.70950.462352@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <03f601c7bb2f$50b848a0$86ec64d0@carlsw> I archive all of my spam so that when Spambayes needs to retrained, I have the data bank. Carl -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:35 AM To: Thomas Hruska Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes classification failed! Thomas> Today I received an e-mail in my Thunderbird inbox that has a Thomas> 'X-Spambayes-Classification: spam'. I have a rule set up to Thomas> automatically and permanently delete e-mails with spam Thomas> classifications. Somehow the e-mail got by the filter. Thomas> Filter rule: "For incoming messages that: Match all of the Thomas> following. Thomas> 'X-Spambayes-Classification' is 'spam'. Perform these actions: Thomas> Delete Message." Thomas> Any developers interested? I'm not sure what problem you're describing. Is it that SpamBayes incorrectly classified a message or that somehow it added a spam classification header to the message which your T-Bird filter didn't pick up? I'm unsure why you're not just saving spam to a separate folder for later review. Aren't you worried that the occasional ham will be classified as spam and deleted? Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From skip at pobox.com Sat Jun 30 22:30:10 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:30:10 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes classification failed! In-Reply-To: <03f601c7bb2f$50b848a0$86ec64d0@carlsw> References: <18054.27172.70950.462352@montanaro.dyndns.org> <03f601c7bb2f$50b848a0$86ec64d0@carlsw> Message-ID: <18054.48466.92302.174205@montanaro.dyndns.org> Carl> I archive all of my spam so that when Spambayes needs to Carl> retrained, I have the data bank. I find that unnecessary. Just train on unsures and mistakes. Every now and again delete all your training data and start from scratch (or just save the last few hams and spams and train on them to get started). It quickly (after just a few of each kind) starts doing a very good job of classifying your mail. Skip