From service at paypal.com Mon Apr 2 08:18:10 2007 From: service at paypal.com (service at paypal.com) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:18:10 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Security Measures!!!! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070402/7ab68b26/attachment.html From jamesy at barons.com Mon Apr 2 16:42:05 2007 From: jamesy at barons.com (James Young) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:42:05 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Message-ID: <200704021341.IAA29272@raq78.hiwaay.net> My SpamBayes stopped working. I uninstalled, and reinstalled the program, and now the wizard does not appear when I open Outlook. I am using Microsoft Windows XP Professional I am using Microsoft Outlook 2003. Please advise. James Young Director of Stadium Operations Birmingham Barons Double A Affiliate of the Chicago White Sox Ph: 205-988-3200 Fax: 205-988-9698 www.barons.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070402/5196db39/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 2 17:32:32 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:32:32 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <200704021341.IAA29272@raq78.hiwaay.net> References: <200704021341.IAA29272@raq78.hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <17937.8720.395313.775387@montanaro.dyndns.org> James> My SpamBayes stopped working. I uninstalled, and reinstalled the James> program, and now the wizard does not appear when I open Outlook. James> I am using Microsoft Windows XP Professional James> I am using Microsoft Outlook 2003. James, I can't help you directly, but I will refer you to the troubleshooting guide: http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html?revision=HEAD That's a bit of a mouthful for many mail programs whose mothers taught them to take small bites. Here's a tiny version: http://tinyurl.com/2furnj Go Sox! -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "The hippies and the hipsters did some great stuff in the sixties, but the geeks pulled their weight too." -- Billy Bragg From fgtrtxdarl at inbox.ru Mon Apr 2 22:09:18 2007 From: fgtrtxdarl at inbox.ru (Забавы в Новосибирске) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:09:18 +0400 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1175544557.344334928@mx18.mail.ru> References: <1175544557.344334928@mx18.mail.ru> Message-ID: ?????? ? ???????????? http://docs.google.com/View?docID=dhbcvcvk_5wh652v ------------------------------------ Mail.Ru - ??????, ????????, ???????! ------------------------------------ From sdouglas at netnettech.com Tue Apr 3 17:21:00 2007 From: sdouglas at netnettech.com (Stephen Douglas) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 10:21:00 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] New version Message-ID: <003f01c77603$afc94090$6aa1a8c0@base> Is there any estimate when the next release will come out? I love this product and have waited patiently. Thank you. Don't shut it down. At minimum pass the torch to other developers on SourcForge.Net if time is an issue. Steve Douglas Net-Net Tech, LLC 1841 Highgrove Dr. O'Fallon, MO 63366-4368 Phone: 636-533-0150 Toll-Free & FAX: 888-388-8327 http://www.netnettech.com From amedee at amedee.be Tue Apr 3 19:31:45 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 19:31:45 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] New version In-Reply-To: <003f01c77603$afc94090$6aa1a8c0@base> References: <003f01c77603$afc94090$6aa1a8c0@base> Message-ID: <1175621505.6586.33.camel@localhost> Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 10:21 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Stephen Douglas: > Is there any estimate when the next release will come out? I love > this product and have waited patiently. Thank you. Don't shut it > down. At minimum pass the torch to other developers on SourcForge.Net > if time is an issue. Because it is on Sourceforge, that de facto means it cannot be shut down. I don't know if Spambayes needs more development. Are there any open bugs? I don't know. Perhaps the development mailing list is more appropriate to answer these questions? -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070403/cd6af156/attachment.pgp From d.parsons at corlettedesign.com.au Wed Apr 4 00:55:51 2007 From: d.parsons at corlettedesign.com.au (Di Parsons) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:55:51 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: Hi, I have installed the latest Spambayes but there isn't the facility in the Manager to empty junk mail. Can you please tell me how to do this quickly, without deleting each spam email into the deleted items and then emptying that. Thank you, and Kind regards, Di Parsons 8 Short Street Surry Hills NSW 2010 Australia T: +61 2 9361 5505 F: +61 2 9361 5776 W: www.corlettedesign.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070404/f0195ce8/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/x-bmp Size: 11958 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070404/f0195ce8/attachment.bin From skip at pobox.com Wed Apr 4 01:28:32 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 18:28:32 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17938.58144.988613.387659@montanaro.dyndns.org> Di> I have installed the latest Spambayes but there isn't the facility Di> in the Manager to empty junk mail. Can you please tell me how to do Di> this quickly, without deleting each spam email into the deleted Di> items and then emptying that. I'm not a Windows user, but can't you ask Outlook to simply trash the items in your junk mail folder? Skip From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Apr 4 02:31:14 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:31:14 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] New version In-Reply-To: <003f01c77603$afc94090$6aa1a8c0@base> Message-ID: <080201c77650$8e2acf60$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> > Is there any estimate when the next release will come out? A month or so. > I > love this product and have waited patiently. Thank you. > Don't shut it down. At minimum pass the torch to other > developers on SourcForge.Net if time is an issue. The torch is patiently burning for anyone willing to run with it. Certainly, if you can encourage or find more developers for this project, things would move alot quicker and take the pressure of the few developers who are here. So please don't see this as a mutually exclusive option - help in finding those additional developers would be most appreciated. Mark From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Apr 4 02:33:33 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:33:33 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <080301c77650$e0ee66d0$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> SpamBayes does not provide that facility. The best approach is probably to setup an "auto-archive" for that folder, having it delete any spam messages over a certain age. Alternative, you can go into the folder, press Ctrl+A to select all items, then hold the Shift key down while pressing Delete - the shift key will force full deletion of the selected items rather than moving them into the "Deleted Items" folder. Cheers, Mark -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Di Parsons Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2007 8:56 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Hi, I have installed the latest Spambayes but there isn't the facility in the Manager to empty junk mail. Can you please tell me how to do this quickly, without deleting each spam email into the deleted items and then emptying that. Thank you, and Kind regards, Di Parsons 8 Short Street Surry Hills NSW 2010 Australia T: +61 2 9361 5505 F: +61 2 9361 5776 W: www.corlettedesign.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070404/a38a7de4/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have ?created a rule? for my Inbox to ?move new messages? ?to my second email account? into ?new folder? so I can separate my incoming messages. Any training done in Inbox SpamBayes does not filter the messages in this new folder, and its doesn?t appear to automatically filter the messages when they arrive in the ?new folder? Cheers Bryan Smith ************** The contents of this Email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The views stated herein do not necessarily represent the view of the company. If you are not the intended recipient of this Email you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever. If you have received this mail in error please Email the sender. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't think you'll have to invest a lot of time in trying it out. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Amedee Van Gasse Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:47 AM To: R?diger Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Question : VISTA and Spambays Op donderdag 05-04-2007 om 13:35 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef R?diger: > Hello, > > will Spambays 1.0.4 run stable with Windows VISTA and Outlook 2007 ? The answer is probably in the archives: http://www.google.com/search?q=vista%2B2007%2Bspambayes+%2Bsite% 3Amail.python.org&Search=Search > -- Amedee Van Gasse From Bret.Durrett at onlinehome.de Thu Apr 5 14:40:32 2007 From: Bret.Durrett at onlinehome.de (Bret Durrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 14:40:32 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Issue Message-ID: <000001c7777f$9cc5f740$15b2a8c0@xpdesktop> Good Morning! I WAS using SpamBayes 1.0.4 but, due to another problem, I had to uninstall it. After re-installing it (once I got the other problem fixed), it would NEVER run again. In fact, Outlook crashes on opening with the SpamBayes Addin active. I tried the steps on the FAQ (1. Uninstall & reboot, 2. Clean out Registry and reboot, 3. Reinstall and reboot) but that didn't help either. The log files are non-existent (Zero Length files) so they can't be used to track the problem. I just get the infamous "The addin has caused a serious problem in MS Outlook....." Any ideas? It was working perfectly and, if not for a problem with the v7.0 of Zone Alarm (since relegated tot he rubbish bin in exchange for the Comodo Firewall), I would still be using it. Stats are: XP SP2 with latest patches 4000 MHz AMD 64 San Diego 2 GB RAM Office XP (fully patched) with Outlook (also fully patched) Regards, Bret Bret W. 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How can I correct these errors? Edward Edward Krigsman | President & CEO ek Real Estate Group E-mail: edwardk at ekreg.com Office: 206.374.9400 Fax: 206.441.5695 100 Fourth Avenue North Suite 155 Seattle, WA 98109 ekreg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070409/16d33b17/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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HTH _____ HYPERLINK "http://crew.sol3.net/photos/keith/images/1218/thumb.aspx" Keith Barrows ASPInsider: HYPERLINK "http://www.aspinsiders.com/"http://www.aspinsiders.com/ Sites: Professional - HYPERLINK "http://sol3.net/"http://sol3.net/ Personal - HYPERLINK "http://crew.sol3.net"http://crew.sol3.net Help: HYPERLINK "http://www.asp.net/forums/"http://www.asp.net/forums/ | HYPERLINK "http://devadvice.com/"http://devadvice.com/ HYPERLINK "http://aspinsiders.com/Themes/default/images/logo.gif" "There's a choice you have to make in everything you do. So keep in mind that in the end the choice you make, make's you." _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Edward Krigsman Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:42 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] tech help My spamBayes buttons are incomplete (only ?Delete As Spam? and ?SpamBayes? appear. ?Recover? is now missing, and the SpamBayes folder doesn?t appear in my folder list, although I can find SpamBayes defined docs in ?unread mail.? How can I correct these errors? Edward Edward Krigsman | President & CEO ek Real Estate Group E-mail: HYPERLINK "mailto:edwardk at ekreg.com"edwardk at ekreg.com Office: 206.374.9400 Fax: 206.441.5695 100 Fourth Avenue North Suite 155 Seattle, WA 98109 HYPERLINK "http://www.ekreg.com"ekreg.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - Release Date: 4/9/2007 10:59 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - Release Date: 4/9/2007 10:59 PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070409/98a025b7/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 221448 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070409/98a025b7/attachment-0001.jpe From gchoochagi at emso.com Tue Apr 10 19:30:33 2007 From: gchoochagi at emso.com (George Choochagi) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:30:33 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes does not showup when installed on outlook 2007. Message-ID: <98B5855F598788438882BB4F849F4F34784028@EXCHANGE.emso.com> To Whom it may concern, SpamBayes does not show up when installed on outlook 2007 is there a workaround to get it work with outlook 2007? Please advise Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070410/9137b297/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Tue Apr 10 20:17:25 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:17:25 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes does not showup when installed on outlook2007. In-Reply-To: <98B5855F598788438882BB4F849F4F34784028@EXCHANGE.emso.com> References: <98B5855F598788438882BB4F849F4F34784028@EXCHANGE.emso.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DC7B3@PKCVT01.pkc.com> At least one person has reported getting SpamBayes working with Outlook 2007, but there are many more reports of it not working. At present, none of the (volunteer) developers have Outlook 2007. Any assistance you can provide (by tracking down the problem, hiring someone else to do so, or helping fund a copy of Outlook 2007 for a developer) would be of value to everyone who wants to run SpamBayes with Outlook 2007. (Disclosure: I'm not a SpamBayes developer, nor do I run Outlook 2007.) A question for the list: is it possible for Outlook users to use one of the non-plugin SpamBayes implementations (sb_server/sb_imapfilter)? This might be a reasonable workaround until there's a reliably working plugin. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of George Choochagi Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes does not showup when installed on outlook2007. To Whom it may concern, SpamBayes does not show up when installed on outlook 2007 is there a workaround to get it work with outlook 2007? Please advise Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070410/7be9eee3/attachment.html From michael.j.feeney at gmail.com Wed Apr 11 02:54:37 2007 From: michael.j.feeney at gmail.com (Mike Feeney) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:54:37 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Netflix prize? Message-ID: <29d0a7780704101754x5a6c91a2xad5890885def412c@mail.gmail.com> Have you considered applying SpamBayes to win the Netflix Prize? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070410/460e7910/attachment.htm From smiller at nwtf.net Wed Apr 11 23:35:41 2007 From: smiller at nwtf.net (Sandy Miller) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:35:41 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook crashes Message-ID: <004b01c77c81$5b256030$1901a8c0@SandyMiller> I have spambayes on a Outlook 2000 computer. When I try to recover from spam, my outlook crashes and I have to restart outlook. My computer has windows xp on it and it has an intel centrino duo processor. Any help that you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Sandy Miller Computer Services Manager National Wild Turkey Federation 770 Augusta Road P. O. Box 530 Edgefield, SC 29824 803-637-3106 ext. 3053 smiller at nwtf.net From Ross.Baker at albertgoodman.co.uk Thu Apr 12 13:32:00 2007 From: Ross.Baker at albertgoodman.co.uk (Ross Baker) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:32:00 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] installing spambayes Message-ID: <874C276BEEAA3541A59EC6B4B31DBAB652D7EC@CHALLENGER> Hi I am reinstalling spambayes 1.4 on a windows xp sp2 with outlook 2003 sp2. I have removed and reinstalled and completes successfully but the toolbar and wizard do not load up in outlook after it is successfully installed. 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Please see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express and http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Patti Higgins Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:16 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] help i am the user that is registered to make changes on my computer and i am also the one that downloaded the spambayes. however, when in outlook express i am unable to find spambayes, but i checked and it is on the computer in all programs. how can i activate spambayes from outlook? thanks patti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070412/41a4c5e9/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Fri Apr 13 14:29:01 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:29:01 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] help In-Reply-To: <002f01c77d55$df197c30$001b153f@livingroom> References: <000a01c77d0d$0f8045a0$ae5f153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCC45@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <002f01c77d55$df197c30$001b153f@livingroom> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCD40@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Did you follow the directions in the second link? If so, and you ran into trouble at some point, please tell us specifically which step you had trouble with, what you did, what happened, and what you expected to happen. Without details, there's no way to help. When you respond, please "reply to all" so everyone on the list gets your message. Personally, I can't provide any Outlook Express-specific help beyond pointing at the FAQ, since I don't use OE. -jesse- ________________________________ From: Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:49 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] help i tried to find my answer to the question "why cant i find anything about spambay in my email file?" and the only thing i see it might be is because i have outlook express. however, it says that i can fix that, but i dont see how. i did check, and my computer did download spambay, i found it in my files. so how to i access it from outlook express? thanks patti higgins ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: Patti Higgins ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] help The FAQ may help. Please see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express and http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Patti Higgins Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:16 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] help i am the user that is registered to make changes on my computer and i am also the one that downloaded the spambayes. however, when in outlook express i am unable to find spambayes, but i checked and it is on the computer in all programs. how can i activate spambayes from outlook? thanks patti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070413/6819d910/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Fri Apr 13 18:10:07 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:10:07 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] help In-Reply-To: <005101c77dde$79a22670$3876153f@livingroom> References: <000a01c77d0d$0f8045a0$ae5f153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCC45@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <002f01c77d55$df197c30$001b153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCD40@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <005101c77dde$79a22670$3876153f@livingroom> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCDE1@PKCVT01.pkc.com> What I'm trying to find out is whether you've followed the steps listed in the document at http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express. If not, please load that page in a Web browser, follow the directions, and if you run into trouble, provide specific information about the problem. Again, please reply to all when responding to this message. If you don't, I'm the only one who gets the message, which means that you only get help if I'm available, and you don't get the benefit of the experience of anyone on the list who actually uses Outlook Express. ________________________________ From: Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:15 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] help directions in second link? what is the first link? the problem is i can not access spambay from out look express thanks patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: Patti Higgins ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] help Did you follow the directions in the second link? If so, and you ran into trouble at some point, please tell us specifically which step you had trouble with, what you did, what happened, and what you expected to happen. Without details, there's no way to help. When you respond, please "reply to all" so everyone on the list gets your message. Personally, I can't provide any Outlook Express-specific help beyond pointing at the FAQ, since I don't use OE. -jesse- ________________________________ From: Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:49 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] help i tried to find my answer to the question "why cant i find anything about spambay in my email file?" and the only thing i see it might be is because i have outlook express. however, it says that i can fix that, but i dont see how. i did check, and my computer did download spambay, i found it in my files. so how to i access it from outlook express? thanks patti higgins ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: Patti Higgins ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] help The FAQ may help. Please see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express and http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Patti Higgins Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:16 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] help i am the user that is registered to make changes on my computer and i am also the one that downloaded the spambayes. however, when in outlook express i am unable to find spambayes, but i checked and it is on the computer in all programs. how can i activate spambayes from outlook? thanks patti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070413/a9a54c2b/attachment.htm From digesteditor at wowway.com Fri Apr 13 21:40:07 2007 From: digesteditor at wowway.com (Gordon Livermore) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:40:07 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes treats all messages as spam! Message-ID: <003c01c77e03$8a8a0050$6801a8c0@evcorp.eastview.com> I have been using SpamBayes for several days now. At first, it was sending some messages to Outlook's "Junk Suspects" box, and I instructed it in many cases to "recover from spam." Then yesterday, the first full day of my using it, SpamBayes quit sending anything to the "Junk Suspects" box and began doing what Outlook had been doing before I installed SpamBayes: sending virtually every message to the "Junk mail" box, although I kept training it and training it. In fact, it was because Outlook was doing this, despite my telling it to classify messages as "not junk" and recipients as "safe senders," that I sought SpamBayes as an alternative. Something screwy is going on here, but I cannot find my problem addressed either in the Microsoft knowledgebase (before I tried SpamBayes), or among the listed troubleshooting problems or FAQs on your Web site. Thank you, Digest-ed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070413/84189cc8/attachment.html From billb at mousa.uk.com Sat Apr 14 08:19:41 2007 From: billb at mousa.uk.com (Bill Bedford) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:19:41 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] large messages Message-ID: <20070414071941808921.f8b43c03@mousa.uk.com> I occationally recieve very large graphics file by email. Using the combination of Spambayes and my mailer (GyazMail) means that the connection times out before the file has downloaded. Is there any way of getting Spambayes to skip large messages? -- Bill Bedford "Nothing is as important as model railways and even that isn't very important" -some wiseguy somewhere From amedee at amedee.be Sat Apr 14 12:21:01 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:21:01 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] large messages In-Reply-To: <20070414071941808921.f8b43c03@mousa.uk.com> References: <20070414071941808921.f8b43c03@mousa.uk.com> Message-ID: <1176546061.24489.17.camel@localhost> Op zaterdag 14-04-2007 om 07:19 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Bill Bedford: > I occationally recieve very large graphics file by email. Using the > combination of Spambayes and my mailer (GyazMail) means that the > connection times out before the file has downloaded. > > Is there any way of getting Spambayes to skip large messages? You didn't say if you are using the Outlook plugin, the POP/IMAP proxy, or another implementation. I don't know GyazMail. I use spambayes as a procmail filter, and I have the following rule in ~/.procmailrc: :0 fw:hamlock * < 1000000 | sb_filter.py That means: anything smaller than exactly 1 MB gets filtered by spambayes, anything else passes unfiltered. Larger mails are usually attached documents or photos sent by friends or family. -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070414/cfe3c6d3/attachment.pgp From amberic12 at verizon.net Sun Apr 15 04:25:03 2007 From: amberic12 at verizon.net (Patti Higgins) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:25:03 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] help References: <000a01c77d0d$0f8045a0$ae5f153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCC45@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <002f01c77d55$df197c30$001b153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCD40@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <005101c77dde$79a22670$3876153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCDE1@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <000f01c77f05$47669e20$f045153f@livingroom> ok, i printed step 4.21 - how do i set up spambayes and outlook express? i got down to step 10, but on step 11 it tells me to open the spambayes configuration page at http://localhost:8880/config. it says i can do this via the tray application, but i dont know what that is. so i put that address into the browser and tried to search, but it came up "can not display web page". so i am stuck on step 11. can you explain the tray app to me? perhaps i can continue after that. thanks patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: Patti Higgins ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] help What I'm trying to find out is whether you've followed the steps listed in the document at http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and-outlook-express. If not, please load that page in a Web browser, follow the directions, and if you run into trouble, provide specific information about the problem. Again, please reply to all when responding to this message. If you don't, I'm the only one who gets the message, which means that you only get help if I'm available, and you don't get the benefit of the experience of anyone on the list who actually uses Outlook Express. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:15 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] help directions in second link? what is the first link? the problem is i can not access spambay from out look express thanks patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: Patti Higgins ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] help Did you follow the directions in the second link? If so, and you ran into trouble at some point, please tell us specifically which step you had trouble with, what you did, what happened, and what you expected to happen. Without details, there's no way to help. When you respond, please "reply to all" so everyone on the list gets your message. Personally, I can't provide any Outlook Express-specific help beyond pointing at the FAQ, since I don't use OE. -jesse- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:49 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] help i tried to find my answer to the question "why cant i find anything about spambay in my email file?" and the only thing i see it might be is because i have outlook express. however, it says that i can fix that, but i dont see how. i did check, and my computer did download spambay, i found it in my files. so how to i access it from outlook express? thanks patti higgins ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: Patti Higgins ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] help The FAQ may help. Please see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlook-express and http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and-outlook-express. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Patti Higgins Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:16 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] help i am the user that is registered to make changes on my computer and i am also the one that downloaded the spambayes. however, when in outlook express i am unable to find spambayes, but i checked and it is on the computer in all programs. how can i activate spambayes from outlook? thanks patti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070414/fe7adb42/attachment.htm From kristjan454 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 15 11:40:23 2007 From: kristjan454 at yahoo.com (Yochanan) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes does not showup when installed on outlook 2007. In-Reply-To: <98B5855F598788438882BB4F849F4F34784028@EXCHANGE.emso.com> References: <98B5855F598788438882BB4F849F4F34784028@EXCHANGE.emso.com> Message-ID: <10000828.post@talk.nabble.com> It works fine here. I'm using SpamBayes 1.04 in Outlook 2007 (12.0.6014.5000) on Vista Ultimate. George Choochagi wrote: > > To Whom it may concern, > > > > SpamBayes does not show up when installed on outlook 2007 is there a > workaround to get it work with outlook 2007? Please advise > > > > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/SpamBayes-does-not-showup-when-installed-on-outlook-2007.-tf3554466.html#a10000828 Sent from the Python - spambayes mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kristjan454 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 15 11:42:34 2007 From: kristjan454 at yahoo.com (Yochanan) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Question : VISTA and Spambays In-Reply-To: <015b01c77776$7badc320$0100a8c0@Computer1> References: <015b01c77776$7badc320$0100a8c0@Computer1> Message-ID: <10000851.post@talk.nabble.com> It's running fine here. R?diger-2 wrote: > > Hello, > > will Spambays 1.0.4 run stable with Windows VISTA and Outlook 2007 ? > > Thanks > ruediger > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Question-%3A-VISTA-and-Spambays-tf3531095.html#a10000851 Sent from the Python - spambayes mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kristjan454 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 15 11:51:42 2007 From: kristjan454 at yahoo.com (Yochanan) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] tech help In-Reply-To: <3DA97200676CD54399364BC90BC2E3426E2CA2@EKSERVER.ekreg.local> References: <3DA97200676CD54399364BC90BC2E3426E2CA2@EKSERVER.ekreg.local> Message-ID: <10000917.post@talk.nabble.com> The Recover from spam button only appears when you have a message selected in your Junk E-mail or Junk Suspects folder. In your screenshot, a message in your Inbox is selected. I'm not sure how to re-create the Junk Suspects folder other than reinstalling SpamBayes. Edward Krigsman wrote: > > My spamBayes buttons are incomplete (only "Delete As Spam" and > "SpamBayes" appear. "Recover" is now missing, and the SpamBayes folder > doesn't appear in my folder list, although I can find SpamBayes defined > docs in "unread mail." How can I correct these errors? > > > > Edward > > > > > > Edward Krigsman | President & CEO > > ek Real Estate Group > > E-mail: edwardk at ekreg.com > > Office: 206.374.9400 > > Fax: 206.441.5695 > > 100 Fourth Avenue North > > Suite 155 > > Seattle, WA 98109 > > ekreg.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/tech-help-tf3548075.html#a10000917 Sent from the Python - spambayes mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kristjan454 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 15 11:54:37 2007 From: kristjan454 at yahoo.com (Yochanan) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <21806D1DAE399C4AB43426F66BBB7F3509381A@server2n.chelseagroup.com> References: <21806D1DAE399C4AB43426F66BBB7F3509381A@server2n.chelseagroup.com> Message-ID: <10000947.post@talk.nabble.com> Who said there wasn't? ;) Reed Simpson wrote: > > Is there a version of SPamBays that will work with Outlook 2007? > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Outlook-2007-tf3483030.html#a10000947 Sent from the Python - spambayes mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From harrysigerson at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 15 14:15:24 2007 From: harrysigerson at ntlworld.com (harrysigerson at ntlworld.com) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:15:24 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] I can no longer get SpamBayes to deal with Spam. Message-ID: <20070415121524.OAZ26699.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.1.100]> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 237 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070415/55e119a5/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes Proxy Version 1.1a3 (August 2006) (binary), with version 2.4.4c0 (#69, Apr 24 2006, 10:15:03) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 46 ham and 331 spam. The problem I am having is as follows. The above information is slightly misleading because it says that I am using v1.1a3. In fact I only downloaded that version today having first uninstalled v1.0.4. I had been using v1.0.4 for a very long time successfully up until about nine months ago. Okay, initially, way way back, I'd had bother getting v1.0.4 to work. I sorted that out and SpamBayes ran beautifully so much so that I was inclined to forget all about it. I don't know what went wrong with v1.0.4; I'm sure it must have been something I did. I kept trying to fix it; couldn'; reverted to taking my email directly and dealing with spam manually - a wearying task but necessary. Then this morning I decided that I'd clear SpamBayes v1.0.4 out of the machine and download the latest version; v1.1a3, the one described above. I don't usually attempt to run beta versions as I'm a PC user of long standing but unfortunately not knowledgeable in any depth about debugging and such. However v1.1xx has been on the go for some time and I noted from SourceForge information that the latest, v1.1a3 has had some 40,xxx downloads and thought perhaps it is solid enough now for numpties . I think the trouble lies in how I must have set or reset SpamBayes so the it is located like piggy in the middle as a proxy. That is so that it is 'localhost' or perhaps that should read to allow 'localhosting' I am using the email agent 'Virtual Access', which I really like and have been using it since around about 1992-4 or so. It is a straight forward POP and SMTP deal. In the Incoming Mail field I have VA set to pop.ntlworld.com and in the Ougoing Mail field it is set to smtp.ntlworld.com Under the News tab of VA, I have the News{NNTP} Server field set to news.ntlworld.com and with these settings my email agent, VA works fine and hauls in all the spam for me to deal with, manually. I've tried a lot of experimentation trying to get back to what I _must_ have had in these fields in VA during that very long time when SpamBayes happily fielded all the spam for me and dumped it into the VA folder called SPAM . On installing the v1.1a3 this morning - with high hopes - hopefully, I filled my email agent's three fields, for the Incoming/Outgoing/News with the word 'localhost' (without the quotes). Of course it couldn't connect to the ISP and I immediately reverted to bypassing SpamBayes. I have read the FAQ section a lot and will read it again but not hopefully. Can anyone suggest a clue on what I'm likely to be missing out doing. I was convinced there was nothing wrong with SpamBayes v1.0.4 - I used it for a long time. I am further convinced since trying out v1.1a3 this morning and realising that I would be going down the same route again with that. I don't want to use another spam basher. I've usually managed to problems like this if only by a process of attrition but now the only word I can think of is ...HELP!! I do know this that at the time when SpamBayes went awry, I'd had a trouble with my Hardware and the Operating System. The Hardware is greatly updated and the O/S is as above and all of my heavy duty applications work really well. So whatever is banjaxing SpamBayes, it has to be something I'm doing - or more likely *not* doing. I'not too sure what good the following log will be since if there is anything in it, it will be from the manually spambashing that I've done for yonks. Not only that but I think v1.1a3 said the it changed old spambayes records from v1.0.4 over to its way of working. Regards, Harry Sigerson From skip at pobox.com Sun Apr 15 14:23:15 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:23:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] tech help In-Reply-To: <10000917.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <3DA97200676CD54399364BC90BC2E3426E2CA2@EKSERVER.ekreg.local> <10000917.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <17954.6451.990552.672114@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> My spamBayes buttons are incomplete (only "Delete As Spam" and >> "SpamBayes" appear. "Recover" is now missing, and the SpamBayes >> folder doesn't appear in my folder list, although I can find >> SpamBayes defined docs in "unread mail." How can I correct these >> errors? Yochanan> I'm not sure how to re-create the Junk Suspects folder other Yochanan> than reinstalling SpamBayes. Maybe: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder Skip From sword235 at gte.net Mon Apr 16 03:40:19 2007 From: sword235 at gte.net (W.C. Schafer) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:40:19 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000701c77fc8$315cf1b0$6d02a8c0@MYSTICSDREAM> Listen Guys, This Spambayes program you built is great. I don't believe that this is a beta program and I do believe that you should be charging something for it. This program learns fast and it runs fast. It's not like "Ella" and some of the other slower programs that I have purchased and used. You got a good thing here; charge for it. Good Luck, W.C. Schafer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070415/e35ba815/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Mon Apr 16 19:11:49 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:11:49 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] help In-Reply-To: <000f01c77f05$47669e20$f045153f@livingroom> References: <000a01c77d0d$0f8045a0$ae5f153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCC45@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <002f01c77d55$df197c30$001b153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCD40@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <005101c77dde$79a22670$3876153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCDE1@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <000f01c77f05$47669e20$f045153f@livingroom> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCFB5@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I'm not quite sure about your "tried to search" step. It looks like you should be able to type that address into your browser's address bar and hit Enter, no searching required. Is that what you're doing? If the tray app is running, an icon will show up in the "tray" of the Windows task bar. The tray is typically in the lower right-hand corner of the screen, though you can put it elsewhere. It'll probably have a volume control (represented by a speaker icon) and the current time in it. I don't know what the SpamBayes icon looks like, but it should appear in the tray with the other tray items. ________________________________ From: Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:25 PM To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] help ok, i printed step 4.21 - how do i set up spambayes and outlook express? i got down to step 10, but on step 11 it tells me to open the spambayes configuration page at http://localhost:8880/config. it says i can do this via the tray application, but i dont know what that is. so i put that address into the browser and tried to search, but it came up "can not display web page". so i am stuck on step 11. can you explain the tray app to me? perhaps i can continue after that. thanks patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: Patti Higgins ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] help What I'm trying to find out is whether you've followed the steps listed in the document at http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express. If not, please load that page in a Web browser, follow the directions, and if you run into trouble, provide specific information about the problem. Again, please reply to all when responding to this message. If you don't, I'm the only one who gets the message, which means that you only get help if I'm available, and you don't get the benefit of the experience of anyone on the list who actually uses Outlook Express. ________________________________ From: Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:15 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] help directions in second link? what is the first link? the problem is i can not access spambay from out look express thanks patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: Patti Higgins ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] help Did you follow the directions in the second link? If so, and you ran into trouble at some point, please tell us specifically which step you had trouble with, what you did, what happened, and what you expected to happen. Without details, there's no way to help. When you respond, please "reply to all" so everyone on the list gets your message. Personally, I can't provide any Outlook Express-specific help beyond pointing at the FAQ, since I don't use OE. -jesse- ________________________________ From: Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:49 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] help i tried to find my answer to the question "why cant i find anything about spambay in my email file?" and the only thing i see it might be is because i have outlook express. however, it says that i can fix that, but i dont see how. i did check, and my computer did download spambay, i found it in my files. so how to i access it from outlook express? thanks patti higgins ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: Patti Higgins ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] help The FAQ may help. Please see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express and http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Patti Higgins Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:16 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] help i am the user that is registered to make changes on my computer and i am also the one that downloaded the spambayes. however, when in outlook express i am unable to find spambayes, but i checked and it is on the computer in all programs. how can i activate spambayes from outlook? thanks patti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070416/e3361070/attachment.htm From amedee at amedee.be Mon Apr 16 20:02:32 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:02:32 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000701c77fc8$315cf1b0$6d02a8c0@MYSTICSDREAM> References: <000701c77fc8$315cf1b0$6d02a8c0@MYSTICSDREAM> Message-ID: <1176746552.19666.21.camel@localhost> Op zondag 15-04-2007 om 18:40 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef W.C. Schafer: > Listen Guys, > > > > This Spambayes program you built is great. I don?t believe that this > is a beta program and I do believe that you should be charging > something for it. > > > > This program learns fast and it runs fast. It?s not like ?Ella? and > some of the other slower programs that I have purchased and used. You > got a good thing here; charge for it. > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#what-is-the-license-how-much-does-it-cost-can-i-pay-anyway http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/donations.html > -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070416/b2c351a2/attachment.pgp From rosema at getrheel.co.nz Tue Apr 17 02:58:48 2007 From: rosema at getrheel.co.nz (Rose Lee) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:58:48 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Grading messages in Outlook Message-ID: Thank you - I have managed to find it and have my grading ratings back :-) Please ignore my first message. Rose -----Original Message----- From: Rose Lee [mailto:rosema at getrheel.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 12:35 p.m. To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: Grading messages in Outlook I have looked through the FAQ's but can't find the thing I'm looking for. I'm not very tech savvy, so I hope that my explanation makes sense. I can't find the magazine article that I first downloaded SpamBayes from either, but I seem to recall either when I got to the page, or from that article, that I needed to download or change something in Outlook so that SpamBayes would grade my messages. Rate them maybe? So each message in my inbox would have a rating - I remember changing some settings following a list of instructions on the site. And my messages did have ratings, and SpamBayes and I were getting on just great. I had nothing marked as junk that wasn't, and we were just tweaking the unsure (but I had it set to 1%, so that was to be expected). My husband built me a new computer. I have transferred Outlook across, and downloaded SpamBayes. It sorted out the first lot of mail that had come in this morning, but doesn't seem to be doing anything now - and it isn't rating it. Effectively I have a clean install - but I know that I'm missing something and I can't find out how to put it back in. The page at the site seems to show that I don't need any more than what I downloaded this morning, but please can you point me to where I can find the instructions for it to rate my mail and start it sorting again. Thank you for your help, Rose From rosema at getrheel.co.nz Tue Apr 17 02:34:53 2007 From: rosema at getrheel.co.nz (Rose Lee) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:34:53 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Grading messages in Outlook Message-ID: <832CD6F9826C434683EBAFD56F2DAB3E@RosePC> I have looked through the FAQ's but can't find the thing I'm looking for. I'm not very tech savvy, so I hope that my explanation makes sense. I can't find the magazine article that I first downloaded SpamBayes from either, but I seem to recall either when I got to the page, or from that article, that I needed to download or change something in Outlook so that SpamBayes would grade my messages. Rate them maybe? So each message in my inbox would have a rating - I remember changing some settings following a list of instructions on the site. And my messages did have ratings, and SpamBayes and I were getting on just great. I had nothing marked as junk that wasn't, and we were just tweaking the unsure (but I had it set to 1%, so that was to be expected). My husband built me a new computer. I have transferred Outlook across, and downloaded SpamBayes. It sorted out the first lot of mail that had come in this morning, but doesn't seem to be doing anything now - and it isn't rating it. Effectively I have a clean install - but I know that I'm missing something and I can't find out how to put it back in. The page at the site seems to show that I don't need any more than what I downloaded this morning, but please can you point me to where I can find the instructions for it to rate my mail and start it sorting again. Thank you for your help, Rose From dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com Tue Apr 17 20:53:28 2007 From: dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com (Dale Schroeder) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:53:28 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] help In-Reply-To: <000f01c77f05$47669e20$f045153f@livingroom> References: <000a01c77d0d$0f8045a0$ae5f153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCC45@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <002f01c77d55$df197c30$001b153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCD40@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <005101c77dde$79a22670$3876153f@livingroom> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9056DCDE1@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <000f01c77f05$47669e20$f045153f@livingroom> Message-ID: <462517A8.2080306@BriannasSaladDressing.com> Patti, If you can't browse to the config page (and no tray icon visible), that usually means Spambayes is not running. It will need to be started first. Patti Higgins wrote: > ok, i printed step 4.21 - how do i set up spambayes and outlook > express? i got down to step 10, but on step 11 it tells me to open > the spambayes configuration page at http://localhost:8880/config. it > says i can do this via the tray application, but i dont know what that > is. so i put that address into the browser and tried to search, but > it came up "can not display web page". so i am stuck on step 11. can > you explain the tray app to me? perhaps i can continue after that. > thanks patti > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jesse Pelton > *To:* Patti Higgins ; > spambayes at python.org > *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2007 12:10 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Spambayes] help > > What I'm trying to find out is whether you've followed the steps > listed in the document > at http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and-outlook-express. > If not, please load that page in a Web browser, follow the > directions, and if you run into trouble, provide specific > information about the problem. > > Again, please reply to all when responding to this message. If you > don't, I'm the only one who gets the message, which means that you > only get help if I'm available, and you don't get the benefit of > the experience of anyone on the list who actually uses Outlook > Express. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] > *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2007 11:15 AM > *To:* Jesse Pelton > *Subject:* Re: [Spambayes] help > > directions in second link? what is the first link? the problem > is i can not access spambay from out look express thanks patti > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jesse Pelton > *To:* Patti Higgins ; > spambayes at python.org > *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2007 8:29 AM > *Subject:* RE: [Spambayes] help > > Did you follow the directions in the second link? If so, and > you ran into trouble at some point, please tell us > specifically which step you had trouble with, what you did, > what happened, and what you expected to happen. Without > details, there's no way to help. > > When you respond, please "reply to all" so everyone on the > list gets your message. Personally, I can't provide any > Outlook Express-specific help beyond pointing at the FAQ, > since I don't use OE. > > -jesse- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Patti Higgins [mailto:amberic12 at verizon.net] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:49 PM > *To:* Jesse Pelton > *Subject:* Re: [Spambayes] help > > i tried to find my answer to the question "why cant i find > anything about spambay in my email file?" and the only thing i > see it might be is because i have outlook express. however, > it says that i can fix that, but i dont see how. i did check, > and my computer did download spambay, i found it in my files. > so how to i access it from outlook express? thanks patti higgins > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jesse Pelton > *To:* Patti Higgins ; > spambayes at python.org > *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:08 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Spambayes] help > > The FAQ may help. Please see > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlook-express and > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and-outlook-express. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* spambayes-bounces at python.org > > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] *On Behalf Of *Patti > Higgins > *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:16 AM > *To:* spambayes at python.org > *Subject:* [Spambayes] help > > i am the user that is registered to make changes on my > computer and i am also the one that downloaded the > spambayes. however, when in outlook express i am unable > to find spambayes, but i checked and it is on the computer > in all programs. how can i activate spambayes from outlook? > thanks patti > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.448 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/762 - Release Date: 4/15/2007 4:22 PM > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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First I was running Win 2000, 600mhz outlook 2000, - exchange 2000 I thought buy replacing the machine it would go away, I have sinced replaced the machine with XP Pro SP2 all updates, outlook 2007 Spam bayes always works but the junk email folder keep disappearing, I have to re run the configuration and it comes back. Any help thank you Don Brashear Network Administrator Dbrashear at general-data.com > 4354 Ferguson Dr Cincinnati, OH 45245 513.752.7978 Ext. 2271 www.General-Data.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070418/4dcbf62a/attachment.htm From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu Apr 19 07:25:56 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:25:56 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Admin Rights In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0b5701c78243$35552260$020a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Admin RightsPlease see this old message: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2005-May/017110.html I thought this was documented somewhere - it probably should be in the FAQ. Cheers, Mark -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Manjit Khanuja Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2007 8:29 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Admin Rights Hello, I am an IT Admin trying to install SpamBayes on a user that does not have admin rights to her PC. I logged on as myself (domain admin) and installed it but when I went back to her account to add the dll in Add In Manager (Outlook 2002) it does not show up. I have tried this multiple times and even moved the SPAMBAYES folder that gets created in Program Files onto her desktop. Bottom line is that I just need to run this software as an Admin on her profile or be able to add the plugin successfully. Please assist me. Here is more Info: OS: WINDOWS2000 SP4 Mail Client: Outlook 2002 SPAMBAYES 1.0.4 Your help would be much appreciated! Thanks, Manjit Khanuja IT Systems Administrator RAJ Manufacturing LLC (714)838-3110 Ext. 123 www.rajman.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070419/59230c29/attachment.htm From alex at chizang.net Thu Apr 19 17:26:10 2007 From: alex at chizang.net (Alex Chiang) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:26:10 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] updating x-spambayes-classification on already trained mail? Message-ID: <20070419152610.GA19770@digdug.dreamhost.com> Hello, Which spambayes script actually insert the X-Spambayes-Classification header into emails? I have a large corpus of archived mail, some hammy and some spammy. I thought it would be an interesting experiment to rerun spambayes on that corpus (post-training) to see if it can pick out the spam. In other words, using spambayes to retroactively clean out my mail archives. For my incoming mail, I use a procmail recipe to pipe the mail to sb_filter.py, and then simply examine the Spambayes header, so my initial thought is that sb_filter.py adds the header. For my test, I reran sb_filter.py on each message (maildir format, but not sure it matters) and discovered the following: a) sb_filter.py doesn't seem to change the header if it already exists in the message b) using sed to remove X-Spambayes-Classification from the messages, and rerunning sb_filter.py doesn't seem to reinsert the header with a new score I'm calling sb_filter.py from my script thusly: sb_filter.py -d /path/to/hammiedb input_msg What am I doing wrong? Thanks. /ac From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 19 20:30:11 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:30:11 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] updating x-spambayes-classification on already trained mail? In-Reply-To: <20070419152610.GA19770@digdug.dreamhost.com> References: <20070419152610.GA19770@digdug.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <17959.46387.641186.431134@montanaro.dyndns.org> Alex> For my test, I reran sb_filter.py on each message (maildir Alex> format, but not sure it matters) and discovered the following: Alex> a) sb_filter.py doesn't seem to change the header if it already Alex> exists in the message Hmmm... works for me. spam.multi is an mbox message dating from Oct 2006 that already has classification and evidence headers: % egrep -i x-spam spam.multi X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 0.16; '*S*': 0.74; 'content-type:image/jpeg': 0.16; X-Spambayes-Classification: spam; 0.79 % sb_filter.py < spam.multi | egrep -i x-spam X-Spambayes-Classification: spam; 0.99 X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 0.00; '*S*': 0.98; 'received:70.86': 0.16; Alex> b) using sed to remove X-Spambayes-Classification from the Alex> messages, and rerunning sb_filter.py doesn't seem to reinsert Alex> the header with a new score If you need to fiddle with message headers you'll be much happier using formail instead of sed. Skip From alex at chizang.net Thu Apr 19 22:17:55 2007 From: alex at chizang.net (Alex Chiang) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:17:55 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] updating x-spambayes-classification on already trained mail? In-Reply-To: <17959.46387.641186.431134@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <20070419152610.GA19770@digdug.dreamhost.com> <17959.46387.641186.431134@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20070419201755.GA29914@digdug.dreamhost.com> * skip at pobox.com : > > Alex> For my test, I reran sb_filter.py on each message (maildir > Alex> format, but not sure it matters) and discovered the following: > > Alex> a) sb_filter.py doesn't seem to change the header if it already > Alex> exists in the message > > Hmmm... works for me. spam.multi is an mbox message dating from Oct > 2006 that already has classification and evidence headers: D'oh, pilot error. You're right -- sb_filter.py will rescore and change the header, even if it already exists. My misunderstanding was in how sb_filter interacts with procmail. As the -h option says: Output is always to standard output as a Unix-style mailbox. Duh -- I'd assumed that it actually rewrote the file. Looks like I simply need to modify my script to rewrite the file with the output from sb_filter. Thanks! /ac From FORPAM at aol.com Fri Apr 20 06:26:52 2007 From: FORPAM at aol.com (FORPAM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:26:52 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] Retrieve a deleted/noted SPAM email Message-ID: I found your question on google ... I just did the same thing - deleted all SPAM messages by mistake!?# Were you successful in learning how to retrieve the messages and could you tell me how...thank you! forpam at aol.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070420/18d11394/attachment.html From 164397 at mail.ru Fri Apr 20 06:42:17 2007 From: 164397 at mail.ru (Целебный ключ Новосибирск) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:42:17 +0400 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <200704200442.l3K4fqxq061296@online.kcgroup.ru> References: <200704200442.l3K4fqxq061296@online.kcgroup.ru> Message-ID: ?????????? ??? ????????? ? ????????? ????????? ???? ???????? ?????? ?????? ????? ??????? - 600 ?. ???????? ? ????????????. (383)292-08-69, 8-913-915-39-72 ------------------------------------ Mail.Ru - ??????, ????????, ???????! ------------------------------------ From sword235 at gte.net Sat Apr 21 19:19:44 2007 From: sword235 at gte.net (W.C. Schafer) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:19:44 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000901c78439$41e02780$6d02a8c0@MYSTICSDREAM> The last thing I would do would be to suggest changes in the way you conduct your business but I do think that you should be charging for your anti-spam program. I get forty to forty-five emails every morning. Thirty-five to forty are spam and the rest are "for real". Your program sorts them out accurately (no errors) in one minute. This thing is fast and very accurate. You may consider it to be in beta but I see no "glitches" and no errors. It is no less reliable than any one of the many Windows releases (all Beta) and what does Microsoft want for an OS like XP Pro that has two entire service packs of "fixes"? Think about it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070421/840ea2cd/attachment.html From amedee at amedee.be Sat Apr 21 22:06:45 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:06:45 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000901c78439$41e02780$6d02a8c0@MYSTICSDREAM> References: <000901c78439$41e02780$6d02a8c0@MYSTICSDREAM> Message-ID: <1177186005.10271.14.camel@localhost> Op zaterdag 21-04-2007 om 10:19 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef W.C. Schafer: > The last thing I would do would be to suggest changes in the way you > conduct your business but I do think that you should be charging for > your anti-spam program. It's originally a Linux program that just happens to be quite portable to Windows. Do you know mucht Linux software out there that you have to pay for? Software is like a popular 3-letter activity: it's best when it's free. ;-) But seriously. If you really need to get rid of some money, donate to the Python Software Foundation. For more info, read: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#what-is-the-license-how-much-does-it-cost-can-i-pay-anyway > I get forty to forty-five emails every morning. Thirty-five to forty > are spam and the rest are ?for real?. Your program sorts them out > accurately (no errors) in one minute. This thing is fast and very > accurate. You may consider it to be in beta but I see no ?glitches? > and no errors. It is no less reliable than any one of the many Windows > releases (all Beta) and what does Microsoft want for an OS like XP Pro > that has two entire service packs of ?fixes?? Think about it. I'm sure the Spambayes devs will be very pleased to hear that you like their work. If anyone of you guys is ever in Belgium, like for FOSDEM or any other open source gig, remind me I owe you beer++ big time! > -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070421/c66b0d9a/attachment.pgp From fulvio at pc.jaring.my Sat Apr 21 22:15:26 2007 From: fulvio at pc.jaring.my (Fulvio) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:15:26 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] How do I add my filters Message-ID: <200704212215.27026.fulvio@pc.jaring.my> Hello, I've my own program to filter emails, but I tought it's much better if join spambayes filters and manage in that way. My program poll my mailboxes and remove the unwanted emails according regex filters, but I'd like that will do jointly with SB. Thank. F From dl.lists at ntlworld.com Mon Apr 23 14:35:14 2007 From: dl.lists at ntlworld.com (DL) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:35:14 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Accessing SpamBayes via XML-RPC API Message-ID: <462CB612.12133.23C096@dl.lists.ntlworld.com> I have just succeeded in integrating Pegasus Mail with SpamBayes. ... Now in FAQ, 1.5.7. http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#is-there-a-high-level-summary-that-shows-how- spambayes-works I found this interesting paragraph .. > The filter script. This does three jobs: command-line training, procmail > filtering, and XML-RPC. See below for details of how to use sb_filter for > training, and how to use it as procmail filter. 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Thanks, Dukeswife21 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070424/d0903558/attachment.htm From DWILKINS at lcog.org Wed Apr 25 18:14:54 2007 From: DWILKINS at lcog.org (WILKINS Dave A) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:14:54 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] my spam folder disappeared from my folder list?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have had the same experience, but I believe my own carelessness caused the problem: (I'm using Outlook for email) I believe that I had the folder selected, instead of just a message within the folder. A delete then deletes the folder, not the individual message. If you notice in time using Outlook, before permanently deleting email, you can "undelete" your spam folder. If not, it's gone. Something similar may well hold true for other email programs as well. Dave Wilkins ________________________________ From: DUKESWIFE21 at aol.com [mailto:DUKESWIFE21 at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:52 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] my spam folder disappeared from my folder list?! I know you don't know me, but the same thing happened to me...I was just curious if you found out what happened cause mine is still missing.... Thanks, Dukeswife21 ________________________________ See what's free at AOL.com . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070425/683a643a/attachment.htm From kellon22 at myrealbox.com Thu Apr 26 03:47:51 2007 From: kellon22 at myrealbox.com (taskr) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] just changed accounts Message-ID: <10192854.post@talk.nabble.com> My university account expired, and I switched to gmail. Discussion on Kiernet suggested that K9 will not filter gmail (even though I use a POP3 connection to gmail?), so I am thinking of trying Spambayes. Will this be straight forward to set up? Can I get SpamBayes to pre-train from the K9 data? Must I uninstall K9 before installing SpamBayes? Sorry to mention another product, but it seems those responsible for Spambayes and K9 are on the same ultimate mission; except, K9 is no longer in development. Thanks for any help. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/just-changed-accounts-tf3649097.html#a10192854 Sent from the Python - spambayes mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 26 05:28:14 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:28:14 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] just changed accounts In-Reply-To: <10192854.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <10192854.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <17968.7246.301581.165905@montanaro.dyndns.org> taskr> My university account expired, and I switched to gmail. taskr> Discussion on Kiernet suggested that K9 will not filter gmail taskr> (even though I use a POP3 connection to gmail?), so I am thinking taskr> of trying Spambayes. I use Gmail with POP3. On my Mac I use fetchmail to download my mail and pump it into procmail which runs SpamBayes' sb_bnfilter.py program. taskr> Will this be straight forward to set up? You didn't say much about your environment, but presuming you're using POP3 then you should be able to at least use the SpamBayes pop3proxy. taskr> Can I get SpamBayes to pre-train from the K9 data? If K9 stores its raw spam and ham messages in some file format common on Unix systems like mbox or Maildir format you can train from that. I'd just start from scratch and train a few ham and spam you should be okay. Also, note that Gmail is going to filter out the bulk of your spam (you will need to keep on top of things for awhile and pluck out false positives and false negatives). taskr> Must I uninstall K9 before installing SpamBayes? Probably not, but if K9 is an Outlook plugin and you want to use the SpamBayes Outlook plugin it would probably be wise. taskr> Sorry to mention another product, but it seems those responsible taskr> for Spambayes and K9 are on the same ultimate mission; except, K9 taskr> is no longer in development. Never heard of K9 before... Skip From kellon22 at myrealbox.com Thu Apr 26 05:41:56 2007 From: kellon22 at myrealbox.com (taskr) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] just changed accounts In-Reply-To: <17968.7246.301581.165905@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <10192854.post@talk.nabble.com> <17968.7246.301581.165905@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <10193631.post@talk.nabble.com> This is a little embarassing, but is Spambayes only used on Unix machines? I need to change to Unix but still suffer as an ignorant Windows user. Skip Montanaro-2 wrote: > > > taskr> My university account expired, and I switched to gmail. > taskr> Discussion on Kiernet suggested that K9 will not filter gmail > taskr> (even though I use a POP3 connection to gmail?), so I am > thinking > taskr> of trying Spambayes. > > I use Gmail with POP3. On my Mac I use fetchmail to download my mail and > pump it into procmail which runs SpamBayes' sb_bnfilter.py program. > > taskr> Will this be straight forward to set up? > > You didn't say much about your environment, but presuming you're using > POP3 > then you should be able to at least use the SpamBayes pop3proxy. > > taskr> Can I get SpamBayes to pre-train from the K9 data? > > If K9 stores its raw spam and ham messages in some file format common on > Unix systems like mbox or Maildir format you can train from that. I'd > just > start from scratch and train a few ham and spam you should be okay. Also, > note that Gmail is going to filter out the bulk of your spam (you will > need > to keep on top of things for awhile and pluck out false positives and > false > negatives). > > taskr> Must I uninstall K9 before installing SpamBayes? > > Probably not, but if K9 is an Outlook plugin and you want to use the > SpamBayes Outlook plugin it would probably be wise. > > taskr> Sorry to mention another product, but it seems those > responsible > taskr> for Spambayes and K9 are on the same ultimate mission; except, > K9 > taskr> is no longer in development. > > Never heard of K9 before... > > Skip > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/just-changed-accounts-tf3649097.html#a10193631 Sent from the Python - spambayes mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From dave at boost-consulting.com Thu Apr 26 06:13:29 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:13:29 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] train-to-exhaustion questions Message-ID: <877irz4vti.fsf@grogan.peloton> 1. A recent training run went like this: round: 1, msgs: 690, ham misses: 61, spam misses: 210, 176.3s round: 2, msgs: 690, ham misses: 8, spam misses: 53, 165.6s round: 3, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 7, 159.6s round: 4, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 2, 159.6s round: 5, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 157.8s round: 6, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 1, 160.9s round: 7, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 211.0s round: 8, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 172.6s round: 9, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 197.1s round: 10, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 1, 174.6s It seems that the results got *worse* in rounds 6 and 10. Am I misinterpreting this? Are these expected results? 2. I have about 350 each of ham and spam that I can use to train on. I'm sure that some of these messages are mostly redundant and add little or nothing of value to the training data. I don't want to waste time on them every time I do a training run. Is there some way to use tte.py to reduce my training set to the messages that actually make a difference? Thanks in advance! -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com Don't Miss BoostCon 2007! ==> http://www.boostcon.com From dave at boost-consulting.com Thu Apr 26 08:00:23 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:00:23 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Web interface statistics Message-ID: <871wi74qvc.fsf@grogan.peloton> It seems the web interface will never tell me a word appears more than once, either as ham or spam. For example, this is the result of a wildcard query for "bike": Word # Spam # Ham Probability ---- ------ ----- ----------- biker 0 1 0.155172 biker, 0 1 0.155172 biker) 0 1 0.155172 bike 0 1 0.155172 bike!! 0 1 0.155172 bike! 0 1 0.155172 bike, 0 1 0.155172 bikes 1 0 0.844828 Is that intentional? -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com Don't Miss BoostCon 2007! ==> http://www.boostcon.com From dave at boost-consulting.com Thu Apr 26 09:12:51 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:12:51 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Web interface statistics References: <871wi74qvc.fsf@grogan.peloton> Message-ID: <87ps5r38y4.fsf@grogan.peloton> on Thu Apr 26 2007, David Abrahams wrote: > It seems the web interface will never tell me a word appears more than > once, either as ham or spam. Sorry, please ignore that. I just wasn't looking at the right words! -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com Don't Miss BoostCon 2007! ==> http://www.boostcon.com From amedee at amedee.be Thu Apr 26 12:48:57 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:48:57 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] just changed accounts In-Reply-To: <10193631.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <10192854.post@talk.nabble.com> <17968.7246.301581.165905@montanaro.dyndns.org> <10193631.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <49181.193.121.250.194.1177584537.squirrel@amedee.be> On Thu, April 26, 2007 05:41, taskr wrote: > > This is a little embarassing, but is Spambayes only used on Unix machines? > I > need to change to Unix but still suffer as an ignorant Windows user. Spambayes is written in python, which means you can run it on any platform that can run python code: windows, linux, commercial unixes, *BSD, Mac OSX, Solaris,... -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 26 20:05:39 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:05:39 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] just changed accounts In-Reply-To: <49181.193.121.250.194.1177584537.squirrel@amedee.be> References: <10192854.post@talk.nabble.com> <17968.7246.301581.165905@montanaro.dyndns.org> <10193631.post@talk.nabble.com> <49181.193.121.250.194.1177584537.squirrel@amedee.be> Message-ID: <17968.59891.868489.564742@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> This is a little embarassing, but is Spambayes only used on Unix >> machines? I need to change to Unix but still suffer as an ignorant >> Windows user. Amedee> Spambayes is written in python, which means you can run it on Amedee> any platform that can run python code: windows, linux, Amedee> commercial unixes, *BSD, Mac OSX, Solaris,... Also worth noting... If you are using Outlook on Windows there is a SpamBayes plugin for Outlook. There are platform-independent web-based pop3 and IMAP proxies/filters as well as a number of command-line tools (which are at least more easily used from Unix). Skip From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 26 20:15:11 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:15:11 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] train-to-exhaustion questions In-Reply-To: <877irz4vti.fsf@grogan.peloton> References: <877irz4vti.fsf@grogan.peloton> Message-ID: <17968.60463.668910.289204@montanaro.dyndns.org> David> 1. A recent training run went like this: David> round: 1, msgs: 690, ham misses: 61, spam misses: 210, 176.3s David> round: 2, msgs: 690, ham misses: 8, spam misses: 53, 165.6s David> round: 3, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 7, 159.6s David> round: 4, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 2, 159.6s David> round: 5, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 157.8s David> round: 6, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 1, 160.9s David> round: 7, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 211.0s David> round: 8, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 172.6s David> round: 9, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 197.1s David> round: 10, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 1, 174.6s David> It seems that the results got *worse* in rounds 6 and 10. Am I David> misinterpreting this? Are these expected results? I would look through your log files, probably near the end, to see if there is some message that is either a mistake or extremely hard to properly classify. One type of spam that gives the tte algorithm fits is a very short spam sent to an otherwise normally well-behaved mailing list. You have a bunch of hammy header clues and one (or at most a few) spammy clues. The first several times through that message will probably score as unsure. It will thus get retrained over and over. After awhile, the hammy header clues will get less hammy, perhaps some even spammy. That will drag some previously ok ham messages into the unsure category. A vicious cycle ensues. When this happens I just delete that problematic spam from the database and retrain. David> 2. I have about 350 each of ham and spam that I can use to train David> on. I'm sure that some of these messages are mostly redundant David> and add little or nothing of value to the training data. I David> don't want to waste time on them every time I do a training David> run. Is there some way to use tte.py to reduce my training David> set to the messages that actually make a difference? Many of them will train correctly the first time through. The tte script should not write them out at the end. I run tte.py via a shell script wrapper called "tte" (attached) and currently run it like so: cd ~/tmp mv newham.old.cull newham.old mv newspam.old.cull newspam.old touch newham touch newspam HC=0.02 SC=0.98 RATIO=1:1 tte new{ham,spam}.old.cull are the files written by tte itself. newham and newspam are the messages I've saved from my mailer since the last run. Skip -------------- next part -------------- #!/bin/bash # various generated files ## DB=$HOME/tmp/tte.db LOG=$HOME/tmp/tte.log # these are tighter than my actual scoring thresholds HC=${HC:-0.03} SC=${SC:-0.75} TTEPY=$HOME/src/spambayes/contrib/tte.py PYTHON=python EXPIMP=sb_dbexpimp.py UNHDR=sb_unheader.py # can override these from the environment but I never do... NEWHAM=${NEWHAM:-$HOME/tmp/newham} NEWSPAM=${NEWSPAM:-$HOME/tmp/newspam} # output of preliminary cleaning OLDHAM=${NEWHAM}.old OLDSPAM=${NEWSPAM}.old # ratio of spam to ham RATIO=${RATIO:-1:1} # there must be at least one new ham or spam message to consider retraining if [ -f $NEWHAM -o -f NEWSPAM ] ; then # clean up ham and spam collections, removing spambayes headers echo cleaning $NEWHAM touch $NEWHAM $UNHDR -p 'X-Hammie|X-Spam' $NEWHAM >> $OLDHAM chmod 600 $OLDHAM rm $NEWHAM echo cleaning $NEWSPAM touch $NEWSPAM $UNHDR -p 'X-Hammie|X-Spam' $NEWSPAM >> $OLDSPAM chmod 600 $OLDSPAM rm $NEWSPAM echo $TTEPY > $LOG if $PYTHON $TTEPY \ --ratio=$RATIO \ -g $OLDHAM \ -s $OLDSPAM \ -R \ -o Categorization:ham_cutoff:$HC \ -o Categorization:spam_cutoff:$SC \ -c .cull \ -v 2>> $LOG ; then chmod 600 $OLDHAM.cull $OLDSPAM.cull exit $? else echo "db generation failed - check tte.log" exit 1 fi else echo "nothing new to train on" fi From skip at pobox.com Thu Apr 26 20:31:14 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:31:14 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] train-to-exhaustion questions In-Reply-To: <17968.60463.668910.289204@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <877irz4vti.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17968.60463.668910.289204@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <17968.61426.327132.849447@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dave> 1. A recent training run went like this: Dave> round: 1, msgs: 690, ham misses: 61, spam misses: 210, 176.3s Dave> round: 2, msgs: 690, ham misses: 8, spam misses: 53, 165.6s Dave> round: 3, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 7, 159.6s Dave> round: 4, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 2, 159.6s Dave> round: 5, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 157.8s Dave> round: 6, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 1, 160.9s Dave> round: 7, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 211.0s Dave> round: 8, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 172.6s Dave> round: 9, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 197.1s Dave> round: 10, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 1, 174.6s Should have posted this the first time around. Here's a run of my tte script: % (cd ~/tmp ; mv newham.old.cull newham.old ; mv newspam.old.cull newspam.old ; touch newham ; touch newspam ; HC=0.02 SC=0.98 RATIO=1:1 tte) cleaning /Users/skip/tmp/newham cleaning /Users/skip/tmp/newspam round: 1, msgs: 196, ham misses: 92, spam misses: 93, 77.1s round: 2, msgs: 196, ham misses: 4, spam misses: 12, 12.1s round: 3, msgs: 196, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 13.0s round: 4, msgs: 196, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 0, 12.9s 27 untrained spams writing new ham mbox... 95 of 98 writing new spam mbox... 125 of 125 The protocol/server/blah/blah/blah is the DNS module complaining about a problematic address. Skip From dave at boost-consulting.com Fri Apr 27 00:19:59 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:19:59 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] train-to-exhaustion questions References: <877irz4vti.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17968.60463.668910.289204@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <87irbi22y8.fsf@grogan.peloton> on Thu Apr 26 2007, skip-AT-pobox.com wrote: > David> 1. A recent training run went like this: > > David> round: 1, msgs: 690, ham misses: 61, spam misses: 210, 176.3s > David> round: 2, msgs: 690, ham misses: 8, spam misses: 53, 165.6s > David> round: 3, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 7, 159.6s > David> round: 4, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 2, 159.6s > David> round: 5, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 157.8s > David> round: 6, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 1, 160.9s > David> round: 7, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 211.0s > David> round: 8, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 172.6s > David> round: 9, msgs: 690, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 1, 197.1s > David> round: 10, msgs: 690, ham misses: 1, spam misses: 1, 174.6s > > David> It seems that the results got *worse* in rounds 6 and 10. Am I > David> misinterpreting this? Are these expected results? > > I would look through your log files, probably near the end, to see if there > is some message that is either a mistake Yep, there was a mistake (or two) upon closer inspection. > David> 2. I have about 350 each of ham and spam that I can use to train > David> on. I'm sure that some of these messages are mostly redundant > David> and add little or nothing of value to the training data. I > David> don't want to waste time on them every time I do a training > David> run. Is there some way to use tte.py to reduce my training > David> set to the messages that actually make a difference? > > Many of them will train correctly the first time through. The tte script > should not write them out at the end. Oh, so *that's* what the -c option does! The documentation isn't very clear on first reading; it seems to imply that it saves the ones that score correctly the first time through, when actually, it discards them (did I get that right)? I'd be happy to suggest less-ambiguous wording. > I run tte.py via a shell script wrapper called "tte" (attached) and > currently run it like so: > > cd ~/tmp > mv newham.old.cull newham.old > mv newspam.old.cull newspam.old > touch newham > touch newspam > HC=0.02 SC=0.98 RATIO=1:1 tte > > new{ham,spam}.old.cull are the files written by tte itself. You mean, as a result of passing '-c'? > newham and newspam are the messages I've saved from my mailer since > the last run. Meaning, the new unsure (and, god forbid, misclassified) messages? OK, I'll look at this; thanks. Probably a few more changes are warranted to support this method for IMAP users. Here's another question: is the ratio argument really the best interface? Seems to me that if you keep the number of hams and spams very close to one another, specifying a ratio that uses all the training data is very difficult (you have to count all the messages manually). Wouldn't it be better to have an --unbalanced argument that automatically counts and causes all the training data to get used? And another: the purpose of the -R argument wasn't clear to me, but I started using it on the assumption that when things get slightly out-of-balance I was likely to miss training on the newest data if the algorithm started at the beginning of the mailbox. Is that the intended use? -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com Don't Miss BoostCon 2007! ==> http://www.boostcon.com From dave at boost-consulting.com Fri Apr 27 13:01:14 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:01:14 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] More web interface statistics Message-ID: <87hcr2xerp.fsf@grogan.peloton> OK, this is really weird. I have reasonably balanced spam and ham folders (within about 15 messages of one another). I just used tte.py to train them, without any ratio option, so it should have actually been a balanced number of messages. Yet, when I run sb_imapfilter.py, I see: $ sb_imapfilter.py -v Loading state from /home/dave/spambayes/hammie.fs database /home/dave/spambayes/hammie.fs is an existing database, with 282 spam and 76 ham ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What do those ham/spam numbers really mean? Thanks, -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com Don't Miss BoostCon 2007! ==> http://www.boostcon.com From captainnima at yahoo.com Fri Apr 27 13:04:12 2007 From: captainnima at yahoo.com (Nima Zahadat) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:04:12 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Message-ID: <20070427111137.C9A771E4004@bag.python.org> Is your program (SpamBayes) compatible with Outlook 2007? Thanks, Nima Nima Zahadat captainnima at yahoo.com Senior Systems Engineer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070427/750c9b08/attachment.html From dave at boost-consulting.com Fri Apr 27 13:58:30 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:58:30 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] More web interface statistics References: <87hcr2xerp.fsf@grogan.peloton> Message-ID: <877iryxc49.fsf@grogan.peloton> on Fri Apr 27 2007, David Abrahams wrote: > OK, this is really weird. I have reasonably balanced spam and ham > folders (within about 15 messages of one another). I just used tte.py > to train them, without any ratio option, so it should have actually > been a balanced number of messages. Yet, when I run sb_imapfilter.py, > I see: > > $ sb_imapfilter.py -v > Loading state from /home/dave/spambayes/hammie.fs database > > /home/dave/spambayes/hammie.fs is an existing database, > with 282 spam and 76 ham > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > What do those ham/spam numbers really mean? I have at least part of an answer: $ tte.py ... Loading state from /home/dave/spambayes/hammie.new.fs database /home/dave/spambayes/hammie.new.fs is a new database round: 1, msgs: 822, ham misses: 68, spam misses: 222, 73.4s round: 2, msgs: 822, ham misses: 8, spam misses: 56, 24.5s round: 3, msgs: 822, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 4, 20.6s round: 4, msgs: 822, ham misses: 0, spam misses: 0, 19.7s ************************************16 untrained spams 68+8 = 76 222+56+4 = 282 So, somehow, the number of hams or spams "in the database" really has to do with the number that are found to be misclassified and thus influence the training data? It's hard to understand the importance of keeping ham and spam balanced if one or the other can ultimately influence training so much more than the other. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com Don't Miss BoostCon 2007! ==> http://www.boostcon.com From amedee at amedee.be Fri Apr 27 14:05:30 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:05:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <20070427111137.C9A771E4004@bag.python.org> References: <20070427111137.C9A771E4004@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <61535.193.121.250.194.1177675530.squirrel@amedee.be> On Fri, April 27, 2007 13:04, Nima Zahadat wrote: > Is your program (SpamBayes) compatible with Outlook 2007? Hi, I'll reply on behalf of them: (I'm just a user like you) Yes, it should be combatable. Several people have reported that it works. -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be From skip at pobox.com Fri Apr 27 15:12:49 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:12:49 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] train-to-exhaustion questions In-Reply-To: <87irbi22y8.fsf@grogan.peloton> References: <877irz4vti.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17968.60463.668910.289204@montanaro.dyndns.org> <87irbi22y8.fsf@grogan.peloton> Message-ID: <17969.63185.484421.357207@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> new{ham,spam}.old.cull are the files written by tte itself. Dave> You mean, as a result of passing '-c'? Yeah, it's been probably a year or so since I made any changes to either tte.py or my tte shell script. I just recall the command line from my bash history and blindly hit RET. >> newham and newspam are the messages I've saved from my mailer since >> the last run. Dave> Meaning, the new unsure (and, god forbid, misclassified) messages? Yup. Dave> Here's another question: is the ratio argument really the best Dave> interface? Seems to me that if you keep the number of hams and Dave> spams very close to one another, specifying a ratio that uses all Dave> the training data is very difficult (you have to count all the Dave> messages manually). Wouldn't it be better to have an --unbalanced Dave> argument that automatically counts and causes all the training Dave> data to get used? It's served me well. You might be the second user. Inputs welcome, but see below. Dave> And another: the purpose of the -R argument wasn't clear to me, Dave> but I started using it on the assumption that when things get Dave> slightly out-of-balance I was likely to miss training on the Dave> newest data if the algorithm started at the beginning of the Dave> mailbox. Is that the intended use? I use mbox format. The newest messages are at the end. Normally, the more recent messages are more valuable as an indication of current spam practices. -R simply reverses the order you process the mbox. The fact that I currently have something like 30 more spams than hams isn't a big deal to me. Since I use -R those messages which are ignored are the oldest ones, and presumably the least suggestive of current spammers' practice. If I feel the need to process them I'll change the RATIO vrbl to 3:2. Or I'll visit the saved spam mbox in my mail reader and simply delete the 30 oldest messages. I have come to view spam filtering as both a dynamic process and necessarily imprecise. The former means that my ham/spam collections should change over time. I think of my database as a sliding window of messages instead of a record of everything I've encountered in the past. The latter means I don't get too bent out of shape about the occasional misclassification. Trying too hard to get everything to classify perfectly just isn't worth the effort, and leads to other problems. For example, I get the occasional message from retailers I've bought products from in the past (Barnes & Noble comes to mind). Sometimes their messages classify as ham, sometimes unsure, sometimes spam. Gmail lets so few spams through that I wind up scanning my spam mailbox frequently anyway, and I never treat a B&N message classification as a "mistake", no matter where it lands. Skip From skip at pobox.com Fri Apr 27 15:15:27 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:15:27 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] More web interface statistics In-Reply-To: <87hcr2xerp.fsf@grogan.peloton> References: <87hcr2xerp.fsf@grogan.peloton> Message-ID: <17969.63343.158302.349896@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dave> /home/dave/spambayes/hammie.fs is an existing database, Dave> with 282 spam and 76 ham Dave> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Dave> What do those ham/spam numbers really mean? tte.py retrains messages which aren't correctly classified on the first pass. Consequently, such messages are counted multiple times. Add up the number of misses for hams and spams. They should be the same as (for very nearly the same as) the numbers you see in imapfilter. Skip From skip at pobox.com Fri Apr 27 15:18:05 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:18:05 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] More web interface statistics In-Reply-To: <877iryxc49.fsf@grogan.peloton> References: <87hcr2xerp.fsf@grogan.peloton> <877iryxc49.fsf@grogan.peloton> Message-ID: <17969.63501.715046.176703@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dave> 68+8 = 76 Dave> 222+56+4 = 282 Dave> So, somehow, the number of hams or spams "in the database" really Dave> has to do with the number that are found to be misclassified and Dave> thus influence the training data? Dave> It's hard to understand the importance of keeping ham and spam Dave> balanced if one or the other can ultimately influence training so Dave> much more than the other. I don't know. It just works. ;-) More seriously, a 4:1 ratio isn't that far out of whack. If it was 10:1 or 50:1 I'd worry. Skip From mstewart at allwirelesssolutions.com Fri Apr 27 15:31:43 2007 From: mstewart at allwirelesssolutions.com (Michele Stewart) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:31:43 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Help in re-install Message-ID: <000301c788d0$653cb180$0a01a8c0@michele> I've been using Spambayes for a couple of years without problem. However, I've recently had problems with my computer freezing and blue screening, dumping memory, etc. That seems to have been resolved but yesterday, Spambayes locked up. I couldn't access it from the toolbar at all. Couldn't get into it to turn it on or off and it wouldn't move/mark any messages when I clicked Delete as Spam. After trying everything I could I uninstalled it completely. Removed it from the Add-Remove Programs, deleted the Program Files folder and even deleted the toolbar. I rebooted the system and reinstalled Spambayes. Which says it's been reinstalled but there's still no toolbar there. How do I get it back up and working? 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070427/ba9f46f5/attachment.html From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 18:19:15 2007 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:19:15 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] WG: false positive In-Reply-To: <61F8588CEED95F4DB7455D4E4148414022F67C@enterprise.klenner.local> References: <61F8588CEED95F4DB7455D4E4148414022F67C@enterprise.klenner.local> Message-ID: <2a052b990704270919m699eb2f4i7279e429e57f562e@mail.gmail.com> [Moving to spambayes at python.org] On 4/16/07, Wilhelm Klenner wrote: > Sorry, I could not attach a 112k Mail, seems like it is too big to fit thru > our 12MBit flat lines :-O > > Can someone give me a hint anyway? > > > > Kind regards, WiKl > > > > > Von: Wilhelm Klenner > Gesendet: Montag, 16. April 2007 21:00 > An: > Betreff: false positive > > > > Hello, > > > > i've been using spambayes for ages without any problems. Now I have a server > running that delivers me voicemails and unanswered calls from my telephone > system. Even afer marking ~ 20 of this mails as ham and doing some extra > training on a folder containing only those messages, they keep on getting > marked as possible spam. > > > > Can you please give me a hint what screw I have to turn to get all mails > from this sender? I attached a sample of these mails. I'm assuming you're using Outlook. If not, please write back and let us know some more details about your configuration. In the SpamBayes dropdown menu you should find an item labeled "Show spam clues for current message". These clues are the most important information for determining why a message scored the way it did. Select one of the incorrect emails while it is still in possible spam, and *before training on it* choose the "Show spam clues" command. This will generate an email message that you can address to spambayes at python.org and submit for us to look at. Large attachments like images (or recorded messages) will usually be discarded, but if the message is still too big to send then you can delete the section labeled Message Stream before forwarding. If these emails always come from the same sender then you might also consider setting up an Outlook rule. SpamBayes doesn't support "whitelisting" (allowing all mails from a specific sender), but you can create a rule in Outlook to move all messages from this sender to a separate folder that is not processed by SpamBayes. In the default SpamBayes configuration, Outlook rules should be processed before SpamBayes analyses the message. If not, look for the "Advanced" tab in SpamBayes Manager and select "Enable background filtering". -- Kenny Pitt From dave at boost-consulting.com Fri Apr 27 19:10:56 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:10:56 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] train-to-exhaustion questions References: <877irz4vti.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17968.60463.668910.289204@montanaro.dyndns.org> <87irbi22y8.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17969.63185.484421.357207@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <87lkgdvj33.fsf@grogan.peloton> on Fri Apr 27 2007, skip-AT-pobox.com wrote: > >> new{ham,spam}.old.cull are the files written by tte itself. > > Dave> You mean, as a result of passing '-c'? > > Yeah, it's been probably a year or so since I made any changes to either > tte.py or my tte shell script. I just recall the command line from my bash > history and blindly hit RET. Good to know. I suppose there's no reason not to do this with a cron job, if you're that confident in it. > Dave> Here's another question: is the ratio argument really the best > Dave> interface? Seems to me that if you keep the number of hams and > Dave> spams very close to one another, specifying a ratio that uses all > Dave> the training data is very difficult (you have to count all the > Dave> messages manually). Wouldn't it be better to have an --unbalanced > Dave> argument that automatically counts and causes all the training > Dave> data to get used? > > It's served me well. You might be the second user. Inputs welcome, but see > below. OK, seeing... > Dave> And another: the purpose of the -R argument wasn't clear to me, > Dave> but I started using it on the assumption that when things get > Dave> slightly out-of-balance I was likely to miss training on the > Dave> newest data if the algorithm started at the beginning of the > Dave> mailbox. Is that the intended use? > > I use mbox format. The newest messages are at the end. Normally, the more > recent messages are more valuable as an indication of current spam > practices. -R simply reverses the order you process the mbox. Yeah, the same ordering logic applies to IMAP, at least on my server. > The fact that I currently have something like 30 more spams than hams isn't > a big deal to me. Me neither, especially when training on about 850 messages ;-) If I used your culling approach I'd be training on much fewer, I guess. > Since I use -R those messages which are ignored are the oldest ones, > and presumably the least suggestive of current spammers' practice. Yes, I expected that to be the logic. > If I feel the need to process them I'll change the RATIO vrbl to > 3:2. Or I'll visit the saved spam mbox in my mail reader and simply > delete the 30 oldest messages. OK... but what will happen if the real ratio of ham to spam is more like 412:379 and I pass a simple ratio of 3:2? If I understand tte.py correctly, instead of skipping (412-379)=33 spams it would only actually end up training 411 spams and 274 hams, thus skipping one spam and (379-274)=105 hams. I guess I'm saying that the ratio argument is good for training some specific ratio of hams and spams... but does anyone really want to train a specific ratio? What's the use case? If you've supplied the ratio argument to make it easy for people to train everything in an unbalanced set, it's not a very good way of getting there. > I have come to view spam filtering as both a dynamic process and necessarily > imprecise. The former means that my ham/spam collections should change over > time. I think of my database as a sliding window of messages instead of a > record of everything I've encountered in the past. The latter means I don't > get too bent out of shape about the occasional misclassification. I have come to expect that SB won't misclassify my Ham as Spam; it has had a pretty good track record for me (although since I started using tte.py I have had a few more of those than I'm used to). I don't mind the other kind of misclassification, occasionally. > Trying too hard to get everything to classify perfectly just isn't worth the > effort, Sure; at some point you want to just delete a few spams here and there, and not worry about the filtering system. > and leads to other problems. For example, I get the occasional > message from retailers I've bought products from in the past (Barnes & Noble > comes to mind). Sometimes their messages classify as ham, sometimes unsure, > sometimes spam. Gmail lets so few spams through that I wind up scanning my > spam mailbox frequently anyway, and I never treat a B&N message > classification as a "mistake", no matter where it lands. Yeah, gmail... I've been thinking of routing all incoming mail on my server through my gmail account somehow, just to take advantage of their filtering ;-) Unfortunately, I want to keep my email address and my server, so unless Google is going to make their spam blocking technology public it means SB is going to have to take on the whole job. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com Don't Miss BoostCon 2007! ==> http://www.boostcon.com From skip at pobox.com Fri Apr 27 20:48:54 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:48:54 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] train-to-exhaustion questions In-Reply-To: <87lkgdvj33.fsf@grogan.peloton> References: <877irz4vti.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17968.60463.668910.289204@montanaro.dyndns.org> <87irbi22y8.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17969.63185.484421.357207@montanaro.dyndns.org> <87lkgdvj33.fsf@grogan.peloton> Message-ID: <17970.17814.877881.493866@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dave> Good to know. I suppose there's no reason not to do this with a Dave> cron job, if you're that confident in it. Well, I do kill my fetchmail process so sb_bnfilter isn't trying to read the database while tte is trying to write it. Dave> OK... but what will happen if the real ratio of ham to spam is Dave> more like 412:379 and I pass a simple ratio of 3:2? All the RATIO tells it is how many spams and hams to score in one shot. 3:2 means (if I recall correctly) that it will pick the next three spams and next two hams to score. It will then check their scores. Any which are correctly scored won't be visited in the next round. I believe those that are scored incorrectly will be used to update the training database at that point. Dave> I guess I'm saying that the ratio argument is good for training Dave> some specific ratio of hams and spams... but does anyone really Dave> want to train a specific ratio? What's the use case? If you've Dave> supplied the ratio argument to make it easy for people to train Dave> everything in an unbalanced set, it's not a very good way of Dave> getting there. Maybe, but it works for me. Dave> Unfortunately, I want to keep my email address and my server, so Dave> unless Google is going to make their spam blocking technology Dave> public it means SB is going to have to take on the whole job. I still use skip at pobox.com as my visible identity. You could have dave at boost-consulting.com forward to Gmail and then use POP3 to pick up your mail from their server. Then use your normal email client and use your boost-consulting address. You would lose the IMAP capability, but when you're on the road you can still use the Gmail web interface to read your mail. (You'll want to keep an eye on Gmail's spam classification accuracy as well.) Skip From dave at boost-consulting.com Fri Apr 27 21:27:51 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:27:51 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] train-to-exhaustion questions In-Reply-To: <17970.17814.877881.493866@montanaro.dyndns.org> (skip@pobox.com's message of "Fri\, 27 Apr 2007 13\:48\:54 -0500") References: <877irz4vti.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17968.60463.668910.289204@montanaro.dyndns.org> <87irbi22y8.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17969.63185.484421.357207@montanaro.dyndns.org> <87lkgdvj33.fsf@grogan.peloton> <17970.17814.877881.493866@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <87ps5pty6g.fsf@grogan.peloton> on Fri Apr 27 2007, skip-AT-pobox.com wrote: > Dave> Good to know. I suppose there's no reason not to do this with a > Dave> cron job, if you're that confident in it. > > Well, I do kill my fetchmail process so sb_bnfilter isn't trying to read the > database while tte is trying to write it. IIUC, tte builds a fresh DB each time. I simply run it on a new file and the copy it over the old file. > Dave> OK... but what will happen if the real ratio of ham to spam is > Dave> more like 412:379 and I pass a simple ratio of 3:2? > > All the RATIO tells it is how many spams and hams to score in one shot. 3:2 > means (if I recall correctly) that it will pick the next three spams and > next two hams to score. It will then check their scores. Any which are > correctly scored won't be visited in the next round. I believe those that > are scored incorrectly will be used to update the training database at that > point. Yeah, that's what I thought. > Dave> I guess I'm saying that the ratio argument is good for training > Dave> some specific ratio of hams and spams... but does anyone really > Dave> want to train a specific ratio? What's the use case? If you've > Dave> supplied the ratio argument to make it easy for people to train > Dave> everything in an unbalanced set, it's not a very good way of > Dave> getting there. > > Maybe, but it works for me. Sounds like you don't really want to discuss this point? Sorry, I don't mean to press it. Just tell me whether you understand my argument and would be willing to accept a patch for an --unbalanced argument that counts the messages and traces a nice quantized line through the whole set. > Dave> Unfortunately, I want to keep my email address and my server, so > Dave> unless Google is going to make their spam blocking technology > Dave> public it means SB is going to have to take on the whole job. > > I still use skip at pobox.com as my visible identity. You could have > dave at boost-consulting.com forward to Gmail and then use POP3 to pick up your > mail from their server. Then use your normal email client and use your > boost-consulting address. You would lose the IMAP capability, Not good for me. I really need what IMAP offers, AFAICT. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com Don't Miss BoostCon 2007! ==> http://www.boostcon.com From aaa.sitary at xoxy.net Sat Apr 28 01:51:14 2007 From: aaa.sitary at xoxy.net (aaa.sitary at xoxy.net) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:51:14 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Vista and Outlook 2007 solution Message-ID: <81ACEF4848162C40B9020D9E1AF96D00021FDCF4@hou-mail02.epsad.com> I notice this question comes up frequently on the forum. Yes, SpamBayes will work with Outlook 2007 under Vista. However, you will need to modify the permissions that SpamBayes runs under. Either run Outlook 2007 as an admin or, better idea, give the Users group Modify\Write permissions to the \Program Files\SpamBayes folder. There's a bit more info about this here: http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes-bugs at python.org/msg01010.html. Note the reply by weloytty which gives the solution. Thank you, weloytty! Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070427/269f2483/attachment.htm From danshaw at fuller.edu Sun Apr 29 01:46:09 2007 From: danshaw at fuller.edu (R. Daniel Shaw) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:46:09 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Program doesn't work Message-ID: <000001c789ef$65c92aa0$6401a8c0@home18> I am using Windows XP version 5.1. I used to use Spambayes all the time and it was GREAT! Then it stopped working and everything I did failed to work. So I went to another program but then they wanted money to continue and decided to come back to Spambayes. I made sure everything from the old program was uninstalled then reinstalled the program with the 1.0.4 download from the website. Once installed the Addin did not show up in Outlook so I followed the trouble shooting guide, clicking the COM Add-Ins button. When I returned to outlook it loaded in the e-mail but the Folderlist on the left side would not load in and the hourglass just sat there so I could do nothing. Soon the entire program went blank and a "Program has stopped working" message appeared. Ultimately, after uninstalling and re-downloading and the same thing happened I am writing to you for HELP! The only way I can use Outlook was to uninstall Spambayes. So now I have no protection. Inasmuch as I used to use the program successfully I assume something has gone haywire in my system. Can you help me. I really want to filter out all this junk and return to a reasonably trouble free operation of Outlook. In anticipation, Dan Shaw -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070428/62b5d1ff/attachment.html From jjohnson104 at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 29 23:52:40 2007 From: jjohnson104 at nc.rr.com (Jane Johnson) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:52:40 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Sending larger files Message-ID: <003901c78aa8$b6ee5540$6401a8c0@XP> SpamBayes (version 1.0.4 now; 1.0.3 earlier) seems to work OK with my Outlook Express (ver.6) on my Windows XP Dell machine (1 GB memory). Small files (less than 1 MB) seem to transmit OK as well. Anytime I try to send a larger file(s) (especially greater than 1 MB) the program bogs down and "processes" the file(s) either very slowly or not at all. In the meantime, "sb_tray.exe" is consuming 98-99% of the CPU. File(s) greater than 2 MB essentially don't transmit -- i.e., the program just locks up. Any suggestions? -J. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070429/bb2700fd/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 30 03:11:20 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:11:20 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Sending larger files In-Reply-To: <003901c78aa8$b6ee5540$6401a8c0@XP> References: <003901c78aa8$b6ee5540$6401a8c0@XP> Message-ID: <17973.16952.328920.386529@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jane> SpamBayes (version 1.0.4 now; 1.0.3 earlier) seems to work OK with Jane> my Outlook Express (ver.6) on my Windows XP Dell machine (1 GB Jane> memory). Small files (less than 1 MB) seem to transmit OK as well. Jane> Anytime I try to send a larger file(s) (especially greater than 1 Jane> MB) the program bogs down and "processes" the file(s) either very Jane> slowly or not at all. In the meantime, "sb_tray.exe" is consuming Jane> 98-99% of the CPU. File(s) greater than 2 MB essentially don't Jane> transmit -- i.e., the program just locks up. Any suggestions? If I read your note correctly, you're seeing some spike in the time it takes to *send* a message once your message size gets up to around 1MB. SpamBayes doesn't filter messages you send, only those you receive. Nevertheless, in case I misunderstand what you wrote... The amount of work SpamBayes has to do when scoring incoming messages is proportional to the size of the message. In theory it should slow down more-or-less uniformly as this simple table suggests. To create it, I concatenated succesively more copies of the same message (105,860 bytes) and fed the resulting mongo message to the SpamBayes command line tool, sb_bnfilter.py. The first run takes much longer because sb_bnfilter has to start up the background server first. After that it just feeds the incoming message to the already running server. As you can see, the time it takes to process the message increases more-or-less linearly with the overall message size. (Also, see the attached plot of time as a function of the number of message copies.) # copies total msg size time 1 105860 2.88 2 211720 0.84 3 317580 0.80 4 423440 0.87 5 529300 1.04 6 635160 1.11 7 741020 1.07 8 846880 1.23 9 952740 1.19 10 1058600 1.37 11 1164460 1.43 12 1270320 1.50 13 1376180 1.45 14 1482040 1.63 15 1587900 1.74 16 1693760 1.75 17 1799620 1.81 18 1905480 1.88 19 2011340 1.95 20 2117200 2.01 Skip -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: multispam.png Type: image/png Size: 3465 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070429/9cec0350/attachment.png From dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com Mon Apr 30 15:01:58 2007 From: dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com (Dale Schroeder) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:01:58 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] ham, Sending larger files In-Reply-To: <003901c78aa8$b6ee5540$6401a8c0@XP> References: <003901c78aa8$b6ee5540$6401a8c0@XP> Message-ID: <4635E8C6.80609@BriannasSaladDressing.com> I also have that problem at our company. One user routinely sends large images and forms via email, so I had to turn off the smtp proxy for her account. Anything above ~1MB would lock the server for a long time, then finally, the sending of the message would fail. Fortunately, she was using Thunderbird, and by adding the Thunderbayes extension, she could continue to train messages using Thunderbayes rather than the outgoing proxy. A bug was filed by someone some time ago, but the last time I looked, it was not assigned to anyone. Your options are: 1. Disable the smtp proxy for the large message, then re-enable. 2. Train through the web interface. 3. Switch to Thunderbird/Thunderbayes. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4025 Spambayes is still a great program. I had 281 messages this morning, and they all went to the right folder. Dale Jane Johnson wrote: > SpamBayes (version 1.0.4 now; 1.0.3 earlier) seems to work OK with my > Outlook Express (ver.6) on my Windows XP Dell machine (1 GB memory). > Small files (less than 1 MB) seem to transmit OK as well. Anytime I > try to send a larger file(s) (especially greater than 1 MB) the > program bogs down and "processes" the file(s) either very slowly or > not at all. In the meantime, "sb_tray.exe" is consuming 98-99% of the > CPU. File(s) greater than 2 MB essentially don't transmit -- i.e., > the program just locks up. Any suggestions? > > -J. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070430/289e7893/attachment.htm From mstewart at allwirelesssolutions.com Mon Apr 30 15:23:23 2007 From: mstewart at allwirelesssolutions.com (Michele Stewart) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:23:23 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Help in re-install In-Reply-To: <000301c788d0$653cb180$0a01a8c0@michele> References: <000301c788d0$653cb180$0a01a8c0@michele> Message-ID: <011301c78b2a$ba825760$0a01a8c0@michele> Is there anyone out there that can help with this problem? I am desperate to get rid of the spam in my email. I get over 300 a day and Spambayes was the only program that would get it all. Why can't I get the toolbar back? _______________________________________________ Michele _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Michele Stewart Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:32 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Help in re-install I've been using Spambayes for a couple of years without problem. However, I've recently had problems with my computer freezing and blue screening, dumping memory, etc. That seems to have been resolved but yesterday, Spambayes locked up. I couldn't access it from the toolbar at all. Couldn't get into it to turn it on or off and it wouldn't move/mark any messages when I clicked Delete as Spam. After trying everything I could I uninstalled it completely. Removed it from the Add-Remove Programs, deleted the Program Files folder and even deleted the toolbar. I rebooted the system and reinstalled Spambayes. Which says it's been reinstalled but there's still no toolbar there. How do I get it back up and working? I'm using Outlook 2003 (11.8118.8122) SP2 with Windows XP Pro, 512MB Ram, and 1.2Ghz AMD processor. I want my Spambayes back!!! Can someone help me? Michele -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070430/018b0fa3/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Mon Apr 30 15:50:09 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:50:09 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] ham, Sending larger files In-Reply-To: <4635E8C6.80609@BriannasSaladDressing.com> References: <003901c78aa8$b6ee5540$6401a8c0@XP> <4635E8C6.80609@BriannasSaladDressing.com> Message-ID: <17973.62481.785509.984933@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dale> I also have that problem at our company. One user routinely sends Dale> large images and forms via email, so I had to turn off the smtp Dale> proxy for her account. Anything above ~1MB would lock the server Dale> for a long time, then finally, the sending of the message would Dale> fail. Fortunately, she was using Thunderbird, and by adding the Dale> Thunderbayes extension, she could continue to train messages using Dale> Thunderbayes rather than the outgoing proxy. A bug was filed by Dale> someone some time ago, but the last time I looked, it was not Dale> assigned to anyone. Ah, now I understand. The sending delays are going through the pop3proxy. I'll see if I can figure something out. Skip From brigsby at contechsolutions.net Mon Apr 30 17:37:10 2007 From: brigsby at contechsolutions.net (Brian Rigsby) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:37:10 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Microsoft Office Outlook has stopped working Message-ID: <19C11DC030FA4EC188DCD6BD8D4620B9@CSINote2> Help! Spambayes was working fine for 3 months on my Windows Vista / Outlook 2003 / x86 system. Recently, my screen went black while watching a video causing me to power on/power off to reboot. After restarting, when I launch Outlook I received "Microsoft Office Outlook has stopped working" when Spambayes tries to initialize. I can only get outlook to launch when the outlook_addin.dll is disabled. The crash details are app=outlook, module-unknown, offset=0639aa80, exception=c0000005, data: 00000008. Here is what I have tried to-date to fix this (no matter what I try, the crash still occurs)..and yes, I went through the entire troubleshooting guide!: 1) I Uninstalled/Reinstalled Spambayes 1.1a3 (8 times) 2) I Uninstalled/Reinstalled Spambayes 1.04 (3 times) 3) I Deleted all Spambayes configuration data 4) I tried reregistering the dll (registers succesfully but still outlook crashes on startup) 5) I rebooted multiple times, tried turning on/off user control in Vista and installing/uninstalling Note that the Spambayes installation log shows all is well during install. Also, there is 4 SpamBayes.log files in my data directory - all are empty, so whatever is crashing outlook with spambayes occurs before the first item is written to the log. I also tried Inboxer, and I receive the same hard crash after installing (with Spambayes uninstalled, of course). Cloudmark's product does install and integrate fine with Outlook, however, but I'm sure this uses a diff. technology. Thank you in advance for your help - Brian From bc at rangercomputer.com Mon Apr 30 23:11:15 2007 From: bc at rangercomputer.com (Ranger2) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Junk E-mail disappearing In-Reply-To: <452B5F1AD7B36C4EA495A4A968F7E18B07657569@cliff.general-data.com> References: <452B5F1AD7B36C4EA495A4A968F7E18B07657569@cliff.general-data.com> Message-ID: <10260728.post@talk.nabble.com> Hello, I am having problem that is very similar to that of Mr. Brashear. I work in tech support and have installed SpamBayes on approximately 30-40 computers running 2000-sp4 or XP-sp2. I keep getting calls from people who get an error telling them to re-configure SpamBayes (sorry, I don't have the exact text of the error at the moment). Invariably, the cause of the problem is a missing Junk Suspects folder. At first I just assumed the users were accidently deleting the Junk Suspects folder, but I never find the folder in their deleted items and it is happening far too frequently to be user error. As the error continues to happen, I will try and track OS and Outlook versions and see if the problem is specific to certain versions. Brashear, Don wrote: > > First I love you product. > > I am having the weirdest problem with spam bayes, The junk e-mail folder > keeps disappearing, It happens everyday for the last couple of weeks. > > First I was running Win 2000, 600mhz outlook 2000, - exchange 2000 > > I thought buy replacing the machine it would go away, > > I have sinced replaced the machine with XP Pro SP2 all updates, outlook > 2007 > > Spam bayes always works but the junk email folder keep disappearing, I > have to re run the configuration and it comes back. > > Any help thank you > > > Don Brashear > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Junk-E-mail-disappearing-tf3602047.html#a10260728 Sent from the Python - spambayes mailing list archive at Nabble.com.