From xhoneybearx at aapt.net.au Fri Sep 1 00:05:42 2006 From: xhoneybearx at aapt.net.au (Jason Hayden) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:05:42 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Help Message-ID: <000c01c6cd49$9a976e80$0601a8c0@argoiii> I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 0 ham and 5 spam. I am using Outlook Express. The problem I am having is that Spambayes is not set up correctly. I have entered my email client info into spambayes, but I am not sure what you mean by entering the computer's address into the email client. Do you mean the IP address? If so, where should I enter it? Jason Hayden -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060901/2aeea03c/attachment.html From LWorkman at benchmark-inc.com Fri Sep 1 18:07:24 2006 From: LWorkman at benchmark-inc.com (Lisa Workman) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:07:24 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Issues with Spam Bayes Message-ID: <65D4A96573E0A04FA9CF4110DDC2686201E8D5AD@daisy.benchmark-inc.int> Hi there.. My windows version is XP I use Outlook 2003 SpamBayes version is 1.0.4 It quit working one day. I uninstalled it... Also deleted my SpamBayes folder under my c:\docs and settings\username\application data folder and rebooted the machine. Re-installed it and it still doesn't work. Also, before I re-installed it, I went into Outlook and my toolbar for SpamBayes was still there? I then created myself a new profile in outlook and the toolbar was still there even though SpamBayes was installed. I checked the addin box in Outlook and SpamBayes was unchecked. Any suggestions as I really like this software. I did read through the documentation and try to resolve this before emailing you. Thanks. Lisa Workman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060901/ae631080/attachment.htm From boyard.rene at orange.fr Sun Sep 3 22:00:21 2006 From: boyard.rene at orange.fr (boyard.rene) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:00:21 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrading Message-ID: Bonsoir Est t'il possible de remettre ? jour mon logiciel qui semble ?tre d?faillant. Merci -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060903/8bd3e9bc/attachment.html From jnsagan at comcast.net Mon Sep 4 20:40:50 2006 From: jnsagan at comcast.net (Joseph Sagan) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:40:50 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Out of Office AutoReply: Details Message-ID: From Kutsche.Frank at saugov.sa.gov.au Tue Sep 5 08:36:39 2006 From: Kutsche.Frank at saugov.sa.gov.au (Kutsche, Frank (DWLBC)) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:06:39 +0930 Subject: [Spambayes] spam folder has disappeared, how do I get one back Message-ID: <3E9B5B64275771498F221574A4ED1930021C018F@sagemsg0028.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> Hi For some reason my spam folder has disappeared, how do I get one back. The Junk Suspects folder is still there.....and obviously the Delete as Spam command won't work without a Spam Folder to put them into. Will I need to reload Spambayes again and lose all the memory of past spam? FRANK KUTSCHE GIS Project Officer Information Management Branch Knowledge and Information Division Department of Water, Land and Biodiversity Conservation Ph: 8204 1244 Fax: 8463 7900 Address: 3rd Floor, 25 Grenfell St, Adelaide 5000 SA Postal: GPO Box 2834, Adelaide 5001 SA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060905/fe5266a0/attachment.html From postmaster at bll.co.il Tue Sep 5 10:07:36 2006 From: postmaster at bll.co.il (postmaster at bll.co.il) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:07:36 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Spambayes] Mail Delivery (failure yeshira@bll.co.il) Message-ID: <20060905071319.730611E4004@bag.python.org> Your message was rejected due to information security considerations. For additional details, please call the Leumi Direct Banking Hotline at 03-935-2900 From jsp at PKC.com Tue Sep 5 13:55:23 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:55:23 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] spam folder has disappeared, how do I get one back In-Reply-To: <3E9B5B64275771498F221574A4ED1930021C018F@sagemsg0028.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D049D7@PKCVT01.pkc.com> http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder may help. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Kutsche, Frank (DWLBC) Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:37 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] spam folder has disappeared, how do I get one back Importance: High Hi For some reason my spam folder has disappeared, how do I get one back. The Junk Suspects folder is still there.....and obviously the Delete as Spam command won't work without a Spam Folder to put them into. Will I need to reload Spambayes again and lose all the memory of past spam? FRANK KUTSCHE GIS Project Officer Information Management Branch Knowledge and Information Division Department of Water, Land and Biodiversity Conservation Ph: 8204 1244 Fax: 8463 7900 Address: 3rd Floor, 25 Grenfell St, Adelaide 5000 SA Postal: GPO Box 2834, Adelaide 5001 SA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060905/617e9b8d/attachment.html From dexotaku at gmail.com Wed Sep 6 02:15:28 2006 From: dexotaku at gmail.com (Derek BF Gunnlaugson [dex Otaku]) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:15:28 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] is this Simon Thornington? Message-ID: <44FE1320.8000307@gmail.com> As the subject indicates - is this Simon Thornington? If so, hello. D. Gunnlaugson From arcoll64 at serv.net.au Wed Sep 6 07:23:31 2006 From: arcoll64 at serv.net.au (Arthur&Col) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:23:31 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] no go? Message-ID: <000801c6d174$982ec010$6501a8c0@colleen> Was able to "install" python for Windows but can find no way of turning it loose on my Outlook Express email programme. Can you please advise? Thanks Arthur Massey. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060906/fec34e23/attachment.html From dhaval at patel.sh Fri Sep 8 00:21:53 2006 From: dhaval at patel.sh (Dhaval Patel) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 22:21:53 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] usinb rbl Message-ID: Is it possible for spambayes to use an rbl to mark a higher score for spam? I would love to use rbl but do not want to rely on them because I do not want to outright block email. This seems like the best approach. Is this possible? Thanks, Dhaval From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 8 00:48:45 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:48:45 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] usinb rbl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Is it possible for spambayes to use an rbl to mark a higher score > for spam? Only if you or someone else adds code to do this. Note that RBL's are most effective when they are used at SMTP time, which isn't generally when SpamBayes is being used. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 8 00:49:27 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:49:27 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] no go? In-Reply-To: <000801c6d174$982ec010$6501a8c0@colleen> References: <000801c6d174$982ec010$6501a8c0@colleen> Message-ID: <77063443-92EC-49A0-A13F-0095DA884C93@ihug.co.nz> > Was able to "install" python for Windows but can find no way of > turning it loose on my Outlook Express email programme. Please see FAQ 4.21: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 8 00:51:25 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:51:25 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DC10227-F521-4E17-923A-C061335E9255@ihug.co.nz> > Est t'il possible de remettre ? jour mon logiciel qui semble ?tre > d?faillant. Svp faites-nous savoir exactement ce qui tourne mal (recevez-vous des messages d'erreur ? Qu'est dans les notations ? Vous faites regarder dans le guide de d?pannage ?) Vous serez ?galement pour obtenir l'aide ici si vous pouvez poser votre question en anglais. Veuillez excuser mon fran?ais traduit par ordinateur. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 8 00:52:26 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:52:26 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Help In-Reply-To: <000c01c6cd49$9a976e80$0601a8c0@argoiii> References: <000c01c6cd49$9a976e80$0601a8c0@argoiii> Message-ID: > The problem I am having is that Spambayes is not set up correctly. > I have entered my email client info into spambayes, but I am not > sure what you mean by entering the computer's address into the > email client. Do you mean the IP address? If so, where should I > enter it? Have you read FAQ 4.21? The address you are after is "localhost", which is a special address that always means the local machine. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From kudolani at geospol.sk Fri Sep 8 11:30:01 2006 From: kudolani at geospol.sk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Pavol_Kudol=E1ni?=) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:30:01 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes Message-ID: <001b01c6d329$5bf09090$0200a8c0@palo> Please help. I have installed spambayes to our server (192.168.0.1 win server 2003) and it run correctly only like local host. Either when I write address 192.168.0.1:8880 into my browser (I think in my PC 192.168.0.2) it does not work nor my client does not work. We do not use proxy. We have only sharing internet. Thanks Pavol Kudolani Geospol s.r.o. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060908/7613d08a/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Fri Sep 8 17:51:09 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:51:09 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Enroll your card with Verify By Visa program In-Reply-To: <571.561ef3b.3232e740@aol.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A06@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Somehow your message went to the mailing list for SpamBayes, a spam e-mail filtering program. It seems unlikely that this is what you intended or that anyone who subscribes to this list can help you out. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jdmiller1269 at aol.com Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:33 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Enroll your card with Verify By Visa program I would like to know how to get my card in rolled by verify by visa. My card is with Broad way bank and they said that they don't have anything to do with verify by visa. Is there a number I can call to enroll my card because I am having a lot of trouble doing it over the web. I would like to be able to transfer money into my netspend account. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060908/bb38a021/attachment.htm From dhaval at patel.sh Fri Sep 8 19:39:22 2006 From: dhaval at patel.sh (Dhaval Patel) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:39:22 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes config Message-ID: Can spambayes be setup to use an rbl which can increase the score of spam if the ip is on the blacklist? What are other people's thoughts on this idea? Am I totally off and asking for something ridiculous? Thanks, Dhaval From edw108 at rcn.com Fri Sep 8 20:50:27 2006 From: edw108 at rcn.com (edw108 at rcn.com) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: no training Message-ID: <55ac1u$84p7mp@smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 653 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060908/30768ba6/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. The problem I am having is I feel stupid. I set up pop 3 address, put in port, and can't get spambayes to recognise any of my incoming mail to even start training. (I tried 110 and 8110 port as well) Please tell me what I am doing wrong? From spambayes at donireland.com Sat Sep 9 20:47:50 2006 From: spambayes at donireland.com (Don Ireland) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:47:50 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] imap filter question Message-ID: <002401c6d440$734f2540$2d01010a@L1.Local> 1st--I DID try to access the readme file to see if this question was answered there before deciding to write this message to the list. Background for my questions: I have an outsourced IMAP account (at fusemail.com). Although there spam filters do a decent job, I'd like to improve on that. I check my email on my Treo650, at work and at home (on a different PC from this "utility PC"). Now the questions: 1) Can I install this imapfilter for SpamBayes on my home pc (it is a utility pc handling several different functions and is therefore left on all the time) and have it check my account on a regular basis and move spam to the appropriate folder? 2) When a spam message DOES get through, can I just move the message to the spam folder and have SB automatically train on that as spam 3) Can SB delete the message when it's done training on it? THANKS! Don Ireland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060909/50d04f17/attachment.htm From yossie at backupmore.com Sun Sep 10 08:28:44 2006 From: yossie at backupmore.com (YOSSIE (BackUp & More)) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 01:28:44 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] help w spam Message-ID: <005501c6d4a2$5e41f850$6700a8c0@yossie2> what does this mean 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 476, in found_terminator File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 552, in onReview File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 247, in _buildReviewKeys AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'keys' Yossie BackUp & More www.BackUpMore.com (847) 677-1981 (847) 673-3258 fax yossie at backupmore.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For a little more detail, see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2005-December/018512.html.) I don't think an Incredimail user has ever given a definitive answer, though. You might be able to adapt the instructions on http://email.about.com/od/incredimailtips/qt/et_free_hotmail.htm. It talks about setting the incoming mail server type and address. You may need to install FreePOPs. If you get it working and would like to give back to the SpamBayes effort, please post the steps necessary to get SpamBayes and Incredimail working together. At a minimum, it'll be in the list archive for future reference. In the best case, it'll end up in the FAQ. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:17 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail Hi, I use Incredimail as my default e-mail handler. 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2273 bytes Desc: 13.gif Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060911/04be0dab/attachment-0001.gif From skip at pobox.com Mon Sep 11 15:32:55 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:32:55 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A0B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <4504D540.000003.02688@ERIC-3N67HOHZCH> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A0B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <17669.25991.906139.324867@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jesse> This question gets asked periodically, and the answer seems to be Jesse> that Incredimail cannot be configured to work with Jesse> SpamBayes. (For the most recent instance, see Jesse> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2006-August/019627.html. For Jesse> a little more detail, see Jesse> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2005-December/018512.html.) Jesse> I don't think an Incredimail user has ever given a definitive Jesse> answer, though. Just for grins I just sent them a message. I'm skeptical whether I'll hear back from them though. They had no support contact. Most contact categories were of the bizdev/investor relations/pr type. I think their main goal is making money, not supporting their user base. Maybe someone would like to download the Incredimail installer and see if the binary can be "patched". ;-) Skip From edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl Mon Sep 11 15:46:52 2006 From: edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl (Edgar Matzinger) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:46:52 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] I seem to have stumbled upon a (persistent) spamcount > nspam bug Message-ID: <1157982412l.22561l.0l@nlxth001> ls, after getting these messages: -------------------------------8<--------------------- fetchmail: reading message :19 of 19 (4326 octets) ....Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 257, in ? main() File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 248, in main action(msg) File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 180, in filter return self.h.filter(msg) File "/usr/lib/.../spambayes/hammie.py", line 109, in filter prob, clues = self._scoremsg(msg, True) File "/usr/lib/.../spambayes/hammie.py", line 38, in _scoremsg return self.bayes.spamprob(tokenize(msg), evidence) File "/usr/lib/.../spambayes/classifier.py", line 190, in chi2_spamprob clues = self._getclues(wordstream) File "/usr/lib/.../spambayes/classifier.py", line 493, in _getclues tup = self._worddistanceget(word) File "/usr/lib/.../spambayes/classifier.py", line 508, in _worddistanceget prob = self.probability(record) File "/usr/lib/.../spambayes/classifier.py", line 311, in probability assert spamcount <= nspam AssertionError -------------------------------8<--------------------- NB ... = python2.4/site-packages And after browsing (and googling) the internet, the above error seems to point to a corrupt DB file. Even after recreating this DB file from scratch *and* after updating to spambayes-1.1a1 and recreating the same DB file, this problem keeps existing. The platform spambayes is running on is (Intel pentium) Fedora Core 5. I've used the following comnmand to recreate the DB file: -------------------------------8<--------------------- $ # Empty hammie DB $ echo -n > /usr/local/share/spambayes/hammie.db $ # Retrain $ sb_mboxtrain.py -f -d /usr/local/share/spambayes/hammie.db -g \ $HOME/EMail/Inbox/inbox -g $HOME/EMail/Inbox/NeoNixie -g \ $HOME/EMail/Inbox/SpareTimeGizmo -g $HOME/EMail/Inbox/Evolution -s \ $HOME/EMail/spam/spam -------------------------------8<--------------------- NB I've specified the -f option to force a retrain of already trained messages. Can anyone of you shed some light on this issue? MTIA, cu l8r, Edgar. -- \|||/ (o o) Just curious... ----ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------------------- From spambayes at donireland.com Mon Sep 11 15:58:25 2006 From: spambayes at donireland.com (Don Ireland) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:58:25 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAPFilter Question Message-ID: <002401c6d5aa$59ff0680$2d01010a@L1.Local> 1st--I DID try to access the readme file to see if this question was answered there before deciding to write this message to the list. Background for my questions: I have an outsourced IMAP account (at fusemail.com). Although there spam filters do a decent job, I'd like to improve on that. I check my email on my Treo650, at work and at home (on a different PC from this "utility PC"). Now the questions: 1) Can I install this imapfilter for SpamBayes on my home pc (it is a utility pc handling several different functions and is therefore left on all the time) and have it check my account on a regular basis and move spam to the appropriate folder? 2) When a spam message DOES get through, can I just move the message to the spam folder and have SB automatically train on that as spam 3) Can SB delete the message when it's done training on it? THANKS! Don Ireland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060911/e2b88b6c/attachment-0001.htm From dig-AL at newhorizonprop.com Mon Sep 11 15:51:05 2006 From: dig-AL at newhorizonprop.com (Don Ireland) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:51:05 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAPFilter question Message-ID: <001b01c6d5a9$53856c00$2d01010a@L1.Local> 1st--I DID try to access the readme file to see if this question was answered there before deciding to write this message to the list. Background for my questions: I have an outsourced IMAP account (at fusemail.com). Although there spam filters do a decent job, I'd like to improve on that. I check my email on my Treo650, at work and at home (on a different PC from this "utility PC"). Now the questions: 1) Can I install this imapfilter for SpamBayes on my home pc (it is a utility pc handling several different functions and is therefore left on all the time) and have it check my account on a regular basis and move spam to the appropriate folder? 2) When a spam message DOES get through, can I just move the message to the spam folder and have SB automatically train on that as spam 3) Can SB delete the message when it's done training on it? THANKS! Don Ireland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060911/6abf8dec/attachment.html From spambayes at donireland.com Mon Sep 11 16:08:57 2006 From: spambayes at donireland.com (Don Ireland) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:08:57 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAPFilter question--Sorry for multiple messages References: <001b01c6d5a9$53856c00$2d01010a@L1.Local> Message-ID: <003401c6d5ab$d2664740$2d01010a@L1.Local> Sorry about sending the multiple messages. I thought it hadn't gone through so I sent it again. Don Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Ireland To: spambayes at python.org Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: [Spambayes] IMAPFilter question 1st--I DID try to access the readme file to see if this question was answered there before deciding to write this message to the list. Background for my questions: I have an outsourced IMAP account (at fusemail.com). Although there spam filters do a decent job, I'd like to improve on that. I check my email on my Treo650, at work and at home (on a different PC from this "utility PC"). Now the questions: 1) Can I install this imapfilter for SpamBayes on my home pc (it is a utility pc handling several different functions and is therefore left on all the time) and have it check my account on a regular basis and move spam to the appropriate folder? 2) When a spam message DOES get through, can I just move the message to the spam folder and have SB automatically train on that as spam 3) Can SB delete the message when it's done training on it? THANKS! Don Ireland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060911/d49cae8b/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Mon Sep 11 16:20:41 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:20:41 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: <17669.25991.906139.324867@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A10@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Being curious and paranoid (like any experienced programmer), I tried to install Incredimail in a scratch virtual machine. Unfortunately, it's a network-based installer, and our firewall blocks part of it. I could ask to have the file let through, but I've got work to do. I didn't find the site confidence-inspiring either. -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:33 AM To: Jesse Pelton Cc: Eric; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail Jesse> This question gets asked periodically, and the answer seems to be Jesse> that Incredimail cannot be configured to work with Jesse> SpamBayes. (For the most recent instance, see Jesse> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2006-August/019627.html. For Jesse> a little more detail, see Jesse> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2005-December/018512.html.) Jesse> I don't think an Incredimail user has ever given a definitive Jesse> answer, though. Just for grins I just sent them a message. I'm skeptical whether I'll hear back from them though. They had no support contact. Most contact categories were of the bizdev/investor relations/pr type. I think their main goal is making money, not supporting their user base. Maybe someone would like to download the Incredimail installer and see if the binary can be "patched". ;-) Skip From skip at pobox.com Mon Sep 11 16:24:44 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:24:44 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] I seem to have stumbled upon a (persistent) spamcount > nspam bug In-Reply-To: <1157982412l.22561l.0l@nlxth001> References: <1157982412l.22561l.0l@nlxth001> Message-ID: <17669.29100.891138.207045@montanaro.dyndns.org> Edgar> File "/usr/lib/.../spambayes/classifier.py", line 311, in probability Edgar> assert spamcount <= nspam Edgar> AssertionError Edgar, Database corruption generally rears its ugly head when you have two tools trying to manipulate the database at once. You use mboxtrain to create it. What other tools in the SpamBayes set do you use? What database format are you using? I'm guessing you have yet to switch to zodb. It seems to offer much better resilience against these sorts of problems. Skip From skip at pobox.com Mon Sep 11 16:26:20 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:26:20 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration. In-Reply-To: <004001c6d5a8$8a94fe00$c6c34454@trevoriybdodst> References: <004001c6d5a8$8a94fe00$c6c34454@trevoriybdodst> Message-ID: <17669.29196.595316.598217@montanaro.dyndns.org> Trevor> A very basic question. How do I change the mail client to Trevor> "localhost". This option does not appear in control Trevor> panel/internet options/programs/e - mail. Am I looking in the Trevor> wrong place? That's hard to say. Which SpamBayes tool are you using? You should be looking for "mail server" though, not "mail client". Skip From skip at pobox.com Mon Sep 11 16:27:16 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:27:16 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A10@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <17669.25991.906139.324867@montanaro.dyndns.org> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A10@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <17669.29252.500733.901332@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jesse> I didn't find the site confidence-inspiring either. That's putting it mildly. Skip From edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl Mon Sep 11 17:11:59 2006 From: edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl (Edgar Matzinger) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:11:59 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] I seem to have stumbled upon a (persistent) spamcount > nspam bug In-Reply-To: <17669.29100.891138.207045@montanaro.dyndns.org> (from skip@pobox.com on Mon Sep 11 16:24:44 2006) References: <1157982412l.22561l.0l@nlxth001> <17669.29100.891138.207045@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1157987519l.24058l.0l@nlxth001> Hi Skip, On 09/11/2006 04:24:44 PM, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Edgar> File "/usr/lib/.../spambayes/classifier.py", line 311, > in probability > Edgar> assert spamcount <= nspam > Edgar> AssertionError > > Edgar, > > Database corruption generally rears its ugly head when you have two > tools > trying to manipulate the database at once. You use mboxtrain to > create it. I use sb_mboxtrain.py to train the system. And use sb_filter,py to filter/score the messages. > What other tools in the SpamBayes set do you use? Except from ones mentioned above, none. I've tried to use sb_dbimpexp.py. Using 1.0rc2.2, it crashes. Using 1.1a1, it returns a CSV file. > What database format are you using? The default DB format: Berkeley DB. > I'm guessing you have yet to switch to zodb. It seems to > offer much better resilience against these sorts of problems. How can switch? Thanks, Edgar. -- \|||/ (o o) Just curious... ----ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------------------- From ejohnson at imagewireless.ca Mon Sep 11 19:29:43 2006 From: ejohnson at imagewireless.ca (Eric Johnson) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:29:43 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: <17669.29252.500733.901332@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I've been wondering about Incredimail myself, since my father-in-law uses it. I really wish he would stop... Anyway, I was looking around and I found this tutorial setup for Uniserve customers setting up their email with Incredimail. http://www.uniserve.com/?page=support/email/incredimail It appears that Incredimail uses standard POP3 and SMTP settings just like everyone else, so Spambayes should work fine setup as a proxy... Helpful? Eric -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: September 11, 2006 8:27 AM To: Jesse Pelton Cc: Eric; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail Jesse> I didn't find the site confidence-inspiring either. That's putting it mildly. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/444 - Release Date: 11/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/444 - Release Date: 11/09/2006 From jsp at PKC.com Mon Sep 11 20:17:40 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:17:40 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A14@PKCVT01.pkc.com> There's a high degree of overlap between that and the tutorial I found, which is encouraging. I'm not quite sure why the one I found wanted FreePOPs installed; it seems unnecessary. Uniserve's tutorial is short and to the point. Anyway, I hope ebritt at westnet.com.au will give it a try and let us all know how it goes. It sure would be nice to be able to point Incredimail users to a FAQ. Skip, I'm at work, in my mild-mannered reporter disguise. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Eric Johnson Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:30 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail I've been wondering about Incredimail myself, since my father-in-law uses it. I really wish he would stop... Anyway, I was looking around and I found this tutorial setup for Uniserve customers setting up their email with Incredimail. http://www.uniserve.com/?page=support/email/incredimail It appears that Incredimail uses standard POP3 and SMTP settings just like everyone else, so Spambayes should work fine setup as a proxy... Helpful? Eric -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: September 11, 2006 8:27 AM To: Jesse Pelton Cc: Eric; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail Jesse> I didn't find the site confidence-inspiring either. That's putting it mildly. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/444 - Release Date: 11/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/444 - Release Date: 11/09/2006 _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From frankg at sedco.org Mon Sep 11 20:48:59 2006 From: frankg at sedco.org (Frank Gadek) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:48:59 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] unsubscribe Message-ID: Please delete me from your email address directory ( frankg at sedco.org ). Thanks. Frank -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060911/efa3d2fa/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Mon Sep 11 21:42:24 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:42:24 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] I seem to have stumbled upon a (persistent) spamcount > nspam bug In-Reply-To: <1157987519l.24058l.0l@nlxth001> References: <1157982412l.22561l.0l@nlxth001> <17669.29100.891138.207045@montanaro.dyndns.org> <1157987519l.24058l.0l@nlxth001> Message-ID: <17669.48160.696814.667806@montanaro.dyndns.org> Edgar> I use sb_mboxtrain.py to train the system. And use sb_filter,py to Edgar> filter/score the messages. Is it possible that sb_filter.py and sb_mboxtrain.py run at the same time? If so, that would be enough to cause problems, especially using Berkeley DB. >> I'm guessing you have yet to switch to zodb. It seems to offer much >> better resilience against these sorts of problems. Edgar> How can switch? Download and install ZODB, change your config file to refer to it: [Storage] persistent_use_database: zodb ... then retrain from scratch. I don't recall what version you're running, but zodb is the default starting with 1.1a2. Depending how much older the version you're running is, you may or may not find support for ZODB in the SpamBayes tool set. I recommend you update to 1.1a3. Skip From edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl Mon Sep 11 21:52:12 2006 From: edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl (Edgar Matzinger) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:52:12 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] I seem to have stumbled upon a (persistent) spamcount > nspam bug In-Reply-To: <17669.48160.696814.667806@montanaro.dyndns.org> (from skip@pobox.com on Mon Sep 11 21:42:24 2006) References: <1157982412l.22561l.0l@nlxth001> <17669.29100.891138.207045@montanaro.dyndns.org> <1157987519l.24058l.0l@nlxth001> <17669.48160.696814.667806@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1158004332l.25288l.0l@nlxth001> Hi Skip, On 09/11/2006 09:42:24 PM, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Edgar> I use sb_mboxtrain.py to train the system. And use > sb_filter,py to > Edgar> filter/score the messages. > > Is it possible that sb_filter.py and sb_mboxtrain.py run at the same > time? > If so, that would be enough to cause problems, especially using > Berkeley DB. > No they (almost) never run at the same time. sb_filter.py runs every hour on the hour. And sb_mboxtrain.py runs once a day at 02:15. And I've never seen that sb_filter.py runs for more than a minute. > >> I'm guessing you have yet to switch to zodb. It seems to offer > much > >> better resilience against these sorts of problems. > > Edgar> How can switch? > > Download and install ZODB, change your config file to refer to it: > > [Storage] > persistent_use_database: zodb > ... OK, will do this. > > then retrain from scratch. > > I don't recall what version you're running, but zodb is the default > starting with 1.1a2. Depending how much older the version you're I'm currently running 1.1a1. > running is, you may or may not find support for ZODB in the SpamBayes > tool set. I recommend you update to 1.1a3. > OK, will do this also. Thanks, cu l8r, Edgar. -- \|||/ (o o) Just curious... ----ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------------------- From tim at aterraform.com Tue Sep 12 01:06:35 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:06:35 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A14@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A14@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <4505EBFB.70405@aterraform.com> iirc, the problem with incredimail was, at least at one time, that it doesn't expose the functions necessary to redirect the client to localhost. If it did that, then their prog would be able to client any pop3 account, and they didn't want to be in that business. Maybe that's changed, but then if it has, Incredimail wouldn't be so incredi, now would it? Jesse Pelton wrote: >There's a high degree of overlap between that and the tutorial I found, >which is encouraging. I'm not quite sure why the one I found wanted >FreePOPs installed; it seems unnecessary. Uniserve's tutorial is short >and to the point. > >Anyway, I hope ebritt at westnet.com.au will give it a try and let us all >know how it goes. It sure would be nice to be able to point Incredimail >users to a FAQ. > >Skip, I'm at work, in my mild-mannered reporter disguise. ;-) > >-----Original Message----- >From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] >On Behalf Of Eric Johnson >Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:30 PM >To: spambayes at python.org >Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail > >I've been wondering about Incredimail myself, since my father-in-law >uses >it. I really wish he would stop... > >Anyway, I was looking around and I found this tutorial setup for >Uniserve >customers setting up their email with Incredimail. > >http://www.uniserve.com/?page=support/email/incredimail > >It appears that Incredimail uses standard POP3 and SMTP settings just >like >everyone else, so Spambayes should work fine setup as a proxy... > >Helpful? >Eric > >-----Original Message----- >From: spambayes-bounces at python.org >[mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On >Behalf Of skip at pobox.com >Sent: September 11, 2006 8:27 AM >To: Jesse Pelton >Cc: Eric; spambayes at python.org >Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail > > > Jesse> I didn't find the site confidence-inspiring either. > >That's putting it mildly. > >Skip >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/444 - Release Date: >11/09/2006 > >-- > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/444 - Release Date: >11/09/2006 > > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > From skip at pobox.com Tue Sep 12 04:00:12 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:00:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: <4505EBFB.70405@aterraform.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A14@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <4505EBFB.70405@aterraform.com> Message-ID: <17670.5292.174280.334510@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tim> iirc, the problem with incredimail was, at least at one time, that Tim> it doesn't expose the functions necessary to redirect the client to Tim> localhost. This tutorial Eric Johnson posted: http://www.uniserve.com/?page=support/email/incredimail suggests you should be able to. Click the "General Setup" link and scroll down about 2/3 of the way until you see the "Incoming and Outgoing mail servers" dialog. Assuming it accepts "localhost" as an incoming mail server, it should work. Any Windows folks here want to give it a whirl and report back to the group? Tim> If it did that, then their prog would be able to client any pop3 Tim> account, and they didn't want to be in that business. Maybe that's Tim> changed, but then if it has, Incredimail wouldn't be so incredi, Tim> now would it? I gather the main attraction for most folks is all the little gewgaws people can add to their emails. I suppose the Incredimail folks make money by displaying ads to their users, though they do have a version that costs money, so maybe the free version is semi-crippled or something. Skip From edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl Tue Sep 12 09:42:02 2006 From: edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl (Edgar Matzinger) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:42:02 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] How to create a valid RPM? Message-ID: <1158046922l.7984l.0l@nlxth001> ls, when I download python-spambayes-1.0rc2-2.src.rpm, install it and run rpmbuild -ba ../SPECS/python-spambayes.spec, I get a lot of error messages. It complains about a lot of installed but unpackaged files. How can I create a valid RPM? Thanks, cu l8r, Edgar. -- \|||/ (o o) Just curious... ----ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------------------- From skip at pobox.com Tue Sep 12 11:48:10 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 04:48:10 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] How to create a valid RPM? In-Reply-To: <1158046922l.7984l.0l@nlxth001> References: <1158046922l.7984l.0l@nlxth001> Message-ID: <17670.33370.64123.232256@montanaro.dyndns.org> Edgar> when I download python-spambayes-1.0rc2-2.src.rpm, install it and Edgar> run rpmbuild -ba ../SPECS/python-spambayes.spec, I get a lot of Edgar> error messages. It complains about a lot of installed but Edgar> unpackaged files. How can I create a valid RPM? Dunno. Did you try "python setup.py bdist_rpm"? This is a bit more general than just SpamBayes. You might get some useful help from comp.lang.python (aka python-list at python.org). Skip From gbrandenburg1 at adelphia.net Tue Sep 12 14:10:07 2006 From: gbrandenburg1 at adelphia.net (Gil Brandenburg) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:10:07 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c6d664$63addc50$0500a8c0@Turion> I use Incredimail - Outlook add-on. For some reason, they discontinued support for it and don't offer the download anymore but it works fine with Spambayes. Gil ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:17:40 -0400 From: "Jesse Pelton" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail To: "Eric Johnson" , Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A14 at PKCVT01.pkc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There's a high degree of overlap between that and the tutorial I found, which is encouraging. I'm not quite sure why the one I found wanted FreePOPs installed; it seems unnecessary. Uniserve's tutorial is short and to the point. Anyway, I hope ebritt at westnet.com.au will give it a try and let us all know how it goes. It sure would be nice to be able to point Incredimail users to a FAQ. Skip, I'm at work, in my mild-mannered reporter disguise. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Eric Johnson Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:30 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail I've been wondering about Incredimail myself, since my father-in-law uses it. I really wish he would stop... Anyway, I was looking around and I found this tutorial setup for Uniserve customers setting up their email with Incredimail. http://www.uniserve.com/?page=support/email/incredimail It appears that Incredimail uses standard POP3 and SMTP settings just like everyone else, so Spambayes should work fine setup as a proxy... Helpful? Eric -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: September 11, 2006 8:27 AM To: Jesse Pelton Cc: Eric; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail Jesse> I didn't find the site confidence-inspiring either. That's putting it mildly. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/443 - Release Date: 9/11/2006 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060912/85443661/attachment.html From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Tue Sep 12 16:05:47 2006 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:05:47 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Junk E Mail Folder Problem In-Reply-To: <200609082055.k88KtXd7009709@ylpvm29.prodigy.net> References: <200609082055.k88KtXd7009709@ylpvm29.prodigy.net> Message-ID: <2a052b990609120705r4389f1a6hc1d685591848bb25@mail.gmail.com> [Moving this to the spambayes at python.org list] On 9/8/06, John Gagliardi wrote: > My Junk E Mail folder has a red circle with a line through it. I can't > delete it or move it. I can't even drag it to the Deletec Items folder. > What caused this and what can I do to correct the problem? The folder named "Junk E-mail" is a special folder controlled by Outlook, and Outlook will not allow it to be deleted. By default, SpamBayes moves spam to the same folder as the built-in Outlook spam filter so that all of your spam goes to one place, but SpamBayes does not manage the folder itself or control whether or not it can be deleted. If what you want to do is delete all of your spam, you can just right-click on the Junk E-mail folder and select the Empty "Junk E-mail" Folder option from the menu. -- Kenny Pitt From andrewmartin at iib.ws Tue Sep 12 17:49:58 2006 From: andrewmartin at iib.ws (Andrew Martin) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:49:58 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Mac OS10.4.2 Tiger Message-ID: I am running the above with Entourage. This is very similar to Outlook & indeed accepted all the data when transferred. Any info on Spambayes & Entourage? Will it work? -- Andrew Martin A.R.M.Associates Ltd. Rowse Pillaton Cornwall PL12 6QU Tel: + 44 (0) 1579 350024 Mobile: + 44 (0) 7712 048290 Accredited Associate ? 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Eric -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: September 11, 2006 8:00 PM To: Tim Stone Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail Tim> iirc, the problem with incredimail was, at least at one time, that Tim> it doesn't expose the functions necessary to redirect the client to Tim> localhost. This tutorial Eric Johnson posted: http://www.uniserve.com/?page=support/email/incredimail suggests you should be able to. Click the "General Setup" link and scroll down about 2/3 of the way until you see the "Incoming and Outgoing mail servers" dialog. Assuming it accepts "localhost" as an incoming mail server, it should work. Any Windows folks here want to give it a whirl and report back to the group? Tim> If it did that, then their prog would be able to client any pop3 Tim> account, and they didn't want to be in that business. Maybe that's Tim> changed, but then if it has, Incredimail wouldn't be so incredi, Tim> now would it? I gather the main attraction for most folks is all the little gewgaws people can add to their emails. I suppose the Incredimail folks make money by displaying ads to their users, though they do have a version that costs money, so maybe the free version is semi-crippled or something. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 From edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl Wed Sep 13 13:01:47 2006 From: edgar at edgar-matzinger.nl (Edgar Matzinger) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:01:47 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] I seem to have stumbled upon a (persistent) spamcount > nspam bug Message-ID: <1158145307l.28951l.1l@nlxth001> Hi Skip, >> running is, you may or may not find support for ZODB in the > SpamBayes >> tool set. I recommend you update to 1.1a3. >> > > OK, will do this also. > > Thanks, cu l8r, Edgar. I've compiled, poured it into a RPM and installed ZODB3 (version 3.6.0). Furthermore, I've done the same with spambayes 1.1a3, and now it works flawlessly. If needed I can provide you with the RPM spec-file for spambayes. Thanks, cu l8r, Edgar. -- \|||/ (o o) Just curious... ----ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------------------- From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Sep 13 13:35:16 2006 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:35:16 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5007638DCF@SPIKE.city> > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:00 PM > To: Tim Stone > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail > > I gather the main attraction for most folks is all the little > gewgaws people can add to their emails. I suppose the > Incredimail folks make money by displaying ads to their > users, though they do have a version that costs money, > so maybe the free version is semi-crippled or something. > > Skip I was under the impression that Incredimail is, first and foremost, an industrial-strength adware/spyware delivery system. Is that a bum rap? Bob From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Sep 13 13:35:16 2006 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:35:16 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Junk E Mail Folder Problem Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5007638DD0@SPIKE.city> > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Kenny Pitt > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:06 AM > To: john at corebuilds.com > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Junk E Mail Folder Problem > > The folder named "Junk E-mail" is a special folder controlled > by Outlook, and Outlook will not allow it to be deleted. By > default, SpamBayes moves spam to the same folder as the > built-in Outlook spam filter so that all of your spam goes to > one place, but SpamBayes does not manage the folder itself or > control whether or not it can be deleted. If you move a message out of the "Junk E-mail" folder, will it have a training effect on Spambayes, even if Outlook, not Spambayes, put it there? Bob From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 13 15:48:10 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:48:10 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] I seem to have stumbled upon a (persistent) spamcount > nspam bug In-Reply-To: <1158145307l.28951l.1l@nlxth001> References: <1158145307l.28951l.1l@nlxth001> Message-ID: <17672.3098.675527.836111@montanaro.dyndns.org> Edgar> I've compiled, poured it into a RPM and installed ZODB3 (version Edgar> 3.6.0). Furthermore, I've done the same with spambayes 1.1a3, and Edgar> now it works flawlessly. If needed I can provide you with the RPM Edgar> spec-file for spambayes. Sure, a help ticket on SourceForge would be ideal. That way it doesn't get lost while we find the time to factor it into CVS. Skip From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 13 15:54:07 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:54:07 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5007638DCF@SPIKE.city> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5007638DCF@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: <17672.3455.522407.81084@montanaro.dyndns.org> Bob> I was under the impression that Incredimail is, first and foremost, Bob> an industrial-strength adware/spyware delivery system. Is that a Bob> bum rap? I'd never even heard of it until well after the 1.0 release of SpamBayes. Google searches seem to suggest it's used for nefarious purposes. Maybe everyone with a procmail setup should set up a "vacation" message which responds once to anyone who sends them an email via Incredimail alerting them to its potential dangers. If we can confirm that it is a spyware delivery vehicle maybe we should tweak SpamBayes so it refuses to work with it, even if it's technically possible. Just an idle thought from a cranky, sleep-deprived guy on a rainy Wednesday morning in Chicago. Skip From bobwells at maine.rr.com Wed Sep 13 22:07:47 2006 From: bobwells at maine.rr.com (Bob Bussiere) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:07:47 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Feature For Spambayes Message-ID: <000801c6d770$48bf1870$0300a8c0@newnetcomp> Hello, A lot of us people using SPAMBAYES are inadvertently deleting our "Junk E-Mail" folders while discarding our Junk E-Mail. Luckily it is easy enough to fix this by going in to the manager and running the wizard. Is there any way to provide a pop up message to ask if you really want to delete the Junk E-Mail folder, and mention that only the E-Mail inside the folder should be deleted. It seems to happen quite a bit, mostly because of habit. Thanks, Spambayes User Otherwise your product is EXCELLENT!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060913/9be6fd75/attachment.html From ejohnson at imagewireless.ca Thu Sep 14 01:42:25 2006 From: ejohnson at imagewireless.ca (Eric Johnson) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:42:25 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Incredimail In-Reply-To: <17672.3455.522407.81084@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: For those who find this of interest... After I installed Incredimail, yesterday, I scanned my system with SpyBot v. 1.4 and Shavlik NetChk Protect and I found nothing other than the usual few cookies from a few common websites. I did find in the EULA that the owners of Incredimail watch everything that you do with Incredimail and pass it on/sell to their affiliated partners. In my opinion, run away from this program... Eric -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: September 13, 2006 7:54 AM To: Coe, Bob Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Incredimail Bob> I was under the impression that Incredimail is, first and foremost, Bob> an industrial-strength adware/spyware delivery system. Is that a Bob> bum rap? I'd never even heard of it until well after the 1.0 release of SpamBayes. Google searches seem to suggest it's used for nefarious purposes. Maybe everyone with a procmail setup should set up a "vacation" message which responds once to anyone who sends them an email via Incredimail alerting them to its potential dangers. If we can confirm that it is a spyware delivery vehicle maybe we should tweak SpamBayes so it refuses to work with it, even if it's technically possible. Just an idle thought from a cranky, sleep-deprived guy on a rainy Wednesday morning in Chicago. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 From gdixon60 at comcast.net Thu Sep 14 17:20:54 2006 From: gdixon60 at comcast.net (George Dixon) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:20:54 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] error message Message-ID: Just in the past few days when I open outlook, a pop up says to reconfigiigure spambaye manager ??? What's up -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any way to get around this that you know of? If not, how do I go about uninstalling SpamBayes so I can try again at a later date? Thanks much! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060914/d0015cbf/attachment.htm From rolandhordos at tundraeng.com Thu Sep 14 19:10:49 2006 From: rolandhordos at tundraeng.com (Roland Hordos) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:10:49 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashes my Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7b872146ba604a4eaba726d416972a3c@localhost.localdomain> Hi David, I'm curious about which MAPI connectors you may be using? I had a similar problem show up for me, using the CommuniGate MAPI connector. As it turned out, the SpamBayes code where the error was caused appeared to be just fine -- the call out to the MAPI system was returning 2 stores instead of 1 and Outlook would crash each time it tried to access the second store. I modified the SpamBayes source to work around it successfully. I'm not sure if you're inclined to get under the hood of it, but it might help the SpamBayes group to know the details of your Outlook environment. Roland; -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Sabban, David Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:25 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashes my Outlook Hi - I just installed SpamBayes on my Outlook 2003, running Windows XP. It crashes outlook so that it can't even start. I've now chosen the option to "disable" the pluggin, so I can use outlook. Any way to get around this that you know of? If not, how do I go about uninstalling SpamBayes so I can try again at a later date? Thanks much! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060914/295a9f07/attachment.html From rolandhordos at tundraeng.com Thu Sep 14 20:21:21 2006 From: rolandhordos at tundraeng.com (Roland Hordos) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:21:21 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashes my Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hiya, If you go to your Outlook 2003 -> [Tools] -> [E-mail Accounts] -> [View or Change Existing E-mail Accounts] and list the name and type of each. Then the same for [View or change existing directories or address books]. List name and type of each. It couldn't hurt to paste in the first part of the spambayes1.log in your local temp directory (C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR PROFILE\Local Settings\Temp\spambayes1.log). For me, though, the log was not helpful as the crash happened so early in startup. I think you have exactly the same circumstances that I had because you had to disable the Add-in manually. On startup it has some protection code in there that will automatically disable it, if it detects an error. Because the error I was seeing was caused by an Access Violation (apparently out of process), it did not return a proper exception to SpamBayes and thus left Outlook crippled. I should warn you I'm not a regular contributor -- a SpamBayes hacker at best. I was simply determined to have it work, as the users were already trained on it, it works extremely well, and it's open-source. I've found the source code to be very well written IMHO, and I was able to locate this bug and re-build the setup.exe with the cvs InnoSetup instructions inside of a day. Roland; -----Original Message----- From: Sabban, David [mailto:dsabban at amazon.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:20 AM To: Roland Hordos Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashes my Outlook Hi Roland - Happy to do some looking under the hood for you, I'll need some coaching. Not sure where to find info about the MAPI connector.... if you can send me to some places to look, I'm happy to give you the info. Thanks! _____ From: Roland Hordos [mailto:rolandhordos at tundraeng.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:11 AM To: Sabban, David; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashes my Outlook Hi David, I'm curious about which MAPI connectors you may be using? I had a similar problem show up for me, using the CommuniGate MAPI connector. As it turned out, the SpamBayes code where the error was caused appeared to be just fine -- the call out to the MAPI system was returning 2 stores instead of 1 and Outlook would crash each time it tried to access the second store. I modified the SpamBayes source to work around it successfully. I'm not sure if you're inclined to get under the hood of it, but it might help the SpamBayes group to know the details of your Outlook environment. Roland; -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Sabban, David Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:25 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashes my Outlook Hi - I just installed SpamBayes on my Outlook 2003, running Windows XP. It crashes outlook so that it can't even start. I've now chosen the option to "disable" the pluggin, so I can use outlook. Any way to get around this that you know of? If not, how do I go about uninstalling SpamBayes so I can try again at a later date? Thanks much! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060914/59bc7af8/attachment-0001.html From rolandhordos at tundraeng.com Thu Sep 14 20:52:31 2006 From: rolandhordos at tundraeng.com (Roland Hordos) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:52:31 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Addin and CommuniGate MAPI Connector Conflict Message-ID: <5af08a9bbd91db4a93c39a6985e6a239@localhost.localdomain> Hi list, Following from the "Spambayes crashes my Outlook" thread, I thought I would post more details on my experience with a similar Outlook crash / crippled Outlook issue which I was able to workaround with a small change in source. This problem occurs in Outlook 2000 and 2003 (maybe others), with CommuniGate MAPI Intel 1.2.1, 1.2.2 Problem: SpamBayes' logic on startup of the configuration wizard is to loop through all entries in the Message Stores Table, then ask each one for a receive folder (ie Inbox). The Communigate MAPI connector returns multiple entries from this call, the first of which responds with the proper "Inbox" folder when asked for the Receive Folder. It then causes an access violation when the next store entry is asked for it's Receive Folder. Not sure why a second store entry even exists. Workaround: Modify a single line of code to eliminate the multi-store loop. The assumption here is that you only need one store (probably true if you're running a CommuniGate server). Source file: spambayes/Outlook2000/msgstore.py In the YieldReceiveFolders function, comment out the "for row in rows:" line and replace with "if True:" Thanks to the well written code by the contributors, and good development documentation, this did not take long to find, modify, and re-package for our internal needs. If someone is so inclined to work a permanent solution around this such as an installation option to only allow a single message store, or to coach me on how to do this quickly, it may help others with other similar Outlook environment issues. thanks, Roland; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060914/54ef401a/attachment.htm From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Thu Sep 14 21:44:06 2006 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:44:06 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashes my Outlook Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5007638FB0@SPIKE.city> Turn off DEP. _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Sabban, David Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:25 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashes my Outlook Hi - I just installed SpamBayes on my Outlook 2003, running Windows XP. It crashes outlook so that it can't even start. I've now chosen the option to "disable" the pluggin, so I can use outlook. Any way to get around this that you know of? If not, how do I go about uninstalling SpamBayes so I can try again at a later date? Thanks much! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060914/0e9ae4f6/attachment.html From dave at gretchenland.com Thu Sep 14 20:22:57 2006 From: dave at gretchenland.com (Dave Richards) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:22:57 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes (for Outllok) Suggestion Message-ID: <008301c6d82a$ce25fd20$6601a8c0@jdrlaptop> Outllok diables images in the Junk folder -- I think that it would be a good idea to have Spam Bayes do the same in the "suspect" folder. Dave Richards w.gretchen MP3's, Ring Tones > gretchenland.com/music Stores that carry the music > gretchenland.com/buycd Street Team > gretchenland.com/gteam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060914/dd7d79b7/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Thu Sep 14 22:12:33 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:12:33 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes (for Outllok) Suggestion In-Reply-To: <008301c6d82a$ce25fd20$6601a8c0@jdrlaptop> References: <008301c6d82a$ce25fd20$6601a8c0@jdrlaptop> Message-ID: <17673.47025.922519.530668@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dave> Outllok diables images in the Junk folder -- I think that it would Dave> be a good idea to have Spam Bayes do the same in the "suspect" Dave> folder. Maybe a user-settable parameter? Several of the SB developers do use Outlook, so you almost certainly have to provide some capability to turn on image display, even if the default is for them to be off. Skip From mpetatz at phreekz.de Fri Sep 15 18:58:35 2006 From: mpetatz at phreekz.de (malte Petatz) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:58:35 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] recover Unsurefolder Message-ID: <000001c6d8e8$3012ab60$0b02a8c0@athlon1700> Hello, after installing spambayes i created two folders. One for Spam and one for unsure mails. After a few days and lots of messages later i wanted to clear my Unsure-folder and unfortunately deleted the hole folder. After that i restarted outlook ,i saw two incoming mails which were going straight into that ?cleared? Unsurefolder. Now i wanna know is there a way to recover that folder ?cos i need that two mails and spam bayes puts them where once was that Unsurefolder. Hopefully you understand my problem. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060915/c89e666e/attachment.htm From mail.who at gmail.com Sat Sep 16 07:13:58 2006 From: mail.who at gmail.com (mail.who at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 07:13:58 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Service stops by itself + comments and feed back Message-ID: <001101c6d94e$faaf8080$6402a8c0@computer> Hi, I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 1108 ham and 1155 spam. The problem I am having is SpamBayes service keeps stopping by itself. - Sometimes the SpamBayes service stop (icon in TaskTray changes from green/play to red/stop) and when I start it goes back to stop. To cause it to start again I have to exit SpamBayes and run it again. Other comments: 1. Non-English characters (Hebrew for instance - both Windows-1255 and Unicode UTF8) are displayed as gibberish in review screen. 2. SSL is not supported (needed for additional filtering of Gmail's emails). 3. Maybe you could add a blue-frog style automatic encrypted-database opt-out for reviewed messages marked as spam by user? Other than that, thanks for the great program, it works even better than Google's spam filter. Danny. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060916/f0cdba48/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 375 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060916/f0cdba48/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can I manually force a spambayes scan of a mailbox? Reason - sometimes I have to bulk import email as attachments and them copy them into my inbox. This mechanism by passes spambyes and thus means much manual work. Thanks, Dave -------------------------------------------- David Vinograd vinograd.multics.org vinograd at multics.org 128 Richmond Hill 8 Garden Lane Richmond Peaks Island TW10 6RN Portland ME 04108 44-(0)208-940-5723 1-(1)-207-766-5840 From Travis.Scobie at gov.ab.ca Mon Sep 18 16:07:55 2006 From: Travis.Scobie at gov.ab.ca (Travis Scobie) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:07:55 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Plugin Technical problem Message-ID: <5F68209E1461B946B4B8281155548BE1C9CEC7@EDM-EXCH-1.lan.local> Hi all, Just wondering if you guys have ever run into a problem with the outlook plugin where during initialization it complains of a C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore\Logs\temp.edb file being marked as "in use" by another program. Any ideas? Also, is there any way to customize the installation process for the plugin? Specifically, I'm looking for a way to change the default location of the training database files before or after installation. I've checked the FAQ, and it kind of mentions this, but I think it may only apply to the python installer and/or only the server proxy and filter. Appreciate any feedback you could give. Thanks, Travis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed, and may contain confidential, personal, and or privileged information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hunter >I cannot get Spambayes to do anything at all. > >If I try and configure it (even making no changes to the page) I get the following: > >----------------------------------------------------- >500 Server error >Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 476, in found_terminator > > File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 884, in onChangeopts > > File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 782, in reReadOptions > > File "sb_server.pyc", line 1007, in _recreateState > > File "sb_server.pyc", line 1022, in prepare > > File "sb_server.pyc", line 817, in prepare > > File "sb_server.pyc", line 693, in open_platform_mutex > >AlreadyRunningException >----------------------------------------------------- From cbchurch at erols.com Tue Sep 19 15:07:02 2006 From: cbchurch at erols.com (Cornerstone Baptist Church) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:07:02 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes won't install Message-ID: I had to reinstall SpamBayes today and it won't work. (last week I had to reset my computer to the original factory settings and as a result had to reload all my programs on my computer) Previously, SpamBayes worked beautifully. I run Outlook 2000. Today I reinstalled SpamBayes and when it gets to the end of the installation process, I get a error sound from my computer, like it wasn't able to finish installing. But it doesn't give me any sort of error message. It just closes out. So, I opened Outlook hoping to get the SpamBayes wizard, but nothing happens. I read your troublshooting guide and your online list of bugs that were fixed and didn't see anything that would help me (but it is early in the day, and I might be missing something!). My log file is empty (attached) Thanks for your time, andrea -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(last week I had to reset my computer to the original factory settings and as a result had to reload all my programs on my computer) Previously, SpamBayes worked beautifully. I run Outlook 2000. Today I reinstalled SpamBayes and when it gets to the end of the installation process, I get a error sound from my computer, like it wasn't able to finish installing. But it doesn't give me any sort of error message. It just closes out. So, I opened Outlook hoping to get the SpamBayes wizard, but nothing happens. I read your troublshooting guide and your online list of bugs that were fixed and didn't see anything that would help me (but it is early in the day, and I might be missing something!). My log file is empty (attached) Thanks for your time, andrea -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Assuming you're using the Outlook plug-in, messages that are classified as spam or possible spam are moved to a folder that you designate. Training SpamBayes that a given message has been misclassified is as simple as selecting it and clicking the "Spam" or "Not Spam" button on the Outlook toolbar. You may have to train on more than one message. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Bob Youngquist Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:11 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Quarantine? How do I remove a sender from Spam Quarantine in order to begin receiving emails in Inbox? Using Windows XP Home. Thank you, Bob Youngquist bob at san.rr.com 1-858-597-0720 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060921/3fdbf05b/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Thu Sep 21 20:38:27 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:38:27 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] An interesting spam-related website Message-ID: <17682.56355.213749.371507@montanaro.dyndns.org> This may be of more interest to just the SpamBayes developers than to its users, but I think enough folks might find this site worth a few minutes of time: http://www.spamnation.info/ A colleague at work referred me to it today. It seems to have some interesting perspective on spammers and their techniques. Skip From Gordon_Hutchison at bigpond.com Sun Sep 24 16:40:19 2006 From: Gordon_Hutchison at bigpond.com (Gordon Hutchison) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:40:19 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Can I manually add a specific filter for Ham / Spam Message-ID: <000001c6dfe7$5bc19310$1502a8c0@GJHLaptop> Hi, I want to manually add a filter, so that any email with , say, "nodrog" in subject or body is always considered as Ham. Can I do this? Would it be sufficient to just send myself some (How many?) emails with this word and make sure they are classified as Ham? How could I be sure that absolutely every email with this word would be considered as Ham? Why would I want to do this? If I can tell my friends / colleagues to use this email password, then I can be sure that all emails with it (and perhaps the odd one or two of spam) would be considered as ham, and I don't have to troll the spam folder so carefully every single day. (I get about 70 spam and perhaps 5 or 8 Ham emails every day. With such a lopsided incremental learning I worry about incorrectly classifying Ham as spam (and this has happened a few times). Thanks for listening. /Gordon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 22/9/2006 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060925/9bef00a8/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Sun Sep 24 18:00:11 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:00:11 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Can I manually add a specific filter for Ham / Spam In-Reply-To: <000001c6dfe7$5bc19310$1502a8c0@GJHLaptop> References: <000001c6dfe7$5bc19310$1502a8c0@GJHLaptop> Message-ID: <17686.43915.471153.578035@montanaro.dyndns.org> Gordon> I want to manually add a filter, so that any email with , say, Gordon> "nodrog" in subject or body is always considered as Ham. Gordon> Can I do this? Not directly. Just set your Outlook stuff to run SpamBayes last, then add a filter to Outlook which picks off such emails before SpamBayes gets a chance to score them. Skip From amedee at amedee.be Mon Sep 25 10:40:16 2006 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:40:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] error in sb_server.py Message-ID: <43591.82.146.101.169.1159173616.squirrel@amedee.be> I have the following bash script for getting the spambayes stats: #!/bin/sh # sb_server.py 1>/dev/null & sleep .5 elinks -source http://localhost:8880 | grep am: | html2text pkill sb_server.py 2>&1 Since a few days, I get the following error: amedee at elbereth { ~ }$ ./spamstats Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_server.py", line 104, in ? import spambayes.message File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 220, in ? msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 148, in __init__ self.load() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 160, in load self.db = pickle.load(fp) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/pickle.py", line 1390, in load return Unpickler(file).load() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/pickle.py", line 872, in load dispatch[key](self) KeyError: '\x00' ELinks: Connection refused Same error when I just run "sb_server.py". What's wrong here? -- Amedee From nward0617 at rogers.com Mon Sep 25 14:50:58 2006 From: nward0617 at rogers.com (Norris Ward) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:50:58 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_server.py daemon script for OS X/*NIX platforms Message-ID: Hi, I have been testing out this most excellent app on my Mac. On thing though the script located at this link http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/unix.html : * where do I put it on my system * What do I save it as .sh .py or other Thanks!! From paulc at conrado.com Mon Sep 25 21:05:50 2006 From: paulc at conrado.com (Paul Conrado) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:05:50 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Tech support Message-ID: Hello, When I click the 'Delete as Spam' button, the view in Outlook doesn't refresh, until I click onto a different folder or email message. So it appears that nothing happens to the message, when in actuality it has actually been moved to my junk mail folder. Can you please help? Thanks, ________________________________ Paul R. Conrado President The Conrado Company, Inc. 14363 Saratoga Avenue, Ste. 206 Saratoga, CA 95070 T: 408-867-2095 F: 408-867-2097 paulc at conrado.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060925/3bba3d10/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 2486 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060925/3bba3d10/attachment.jpe From Fabio.Manzoni at compassonline.it Tue Sep 26 12:34:06 2006 From: Fabio.Manzoni at compassonline.it (Manzoni Fabio) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:34:06 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] DoesFolderHaveOutlookField() error Message-ID: <82AAF94367CB364BBDA34625B66D759C20C5A5@COMPASS-EXC-02> Hi, I'm running spambayes 1.0.4 on Outlook2k on Windows2k. It ran ok for months, the suddenly stop ped filtering new messages. Looking into the log, i saw there was a problema creating the 'Spam' field in the 'incoming mail' folder, saying the field was created but looked like it didn't exist, with a probable error with DoesFolderHaveOutlookField(). I tried to install/reinstall, manually delete or add the Spam field in the folder, but without success. At the end, noticing I had other user fields (not related to Spambayes) I tried deleting them, quitting and restarting outlook, and... voil?! everything is ok now. Don't know if my solution works for all the people having a similar problem, but maybe it can be useful for the developers... Bye -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Qualsiasi utilizzo non autorizzato del presente messaggio, nonche' dei suoi allegati e' vietato. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060928/b307e7a6/attachment.htm From claudejones at tehogeeservices.com Thu Sep 28 04:10:07 2006 From: claudejones at tehogeeservices.com (Claude Jones) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:10:07 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Inconsistencies in classification between my mail reader and the web interface - being flooded by spam Message-ID: <200609272210.07693.claudejones@tehogeeservices.com> Backdrop: I've been using Spambayes for a couple of years, and have had it running successfully on many computers, both Windows and Linux. This message concerns installations on Linux boxes. In the past few months, I've been seeing a steady deterioration of Spambayes' performance, and it seemed like I was seeing messages in the Web Interface Review page that were being classified as spam, yet, in my mail reader, they were winding up in the Inbox or my unsure folder. Tonight, I decided to take the time and confirm that. Below are two headers from the same message, one is a cut/paste from my Kmail reader window, and the other is a cut/paste from my Spambayes Web Interface review page. There's several things that show it's the exact same message. Note the ESMTPid which are both k8S0Y57Q009225, and the X-Spambayes-MailId which are both 1159403792. YET, one is classified as spam and the other is classified as unsure. How could this be happenning? Sometime in the past year, someone incorporated code in Kmail that allows it to detect the presence of Spambayes on the machine in a wizard interface, and it configures a few filters for you if you choose to allow that. The filters are fairly innocuous, and seem to do what they're supposed to. But, I'm wondering if they're the problem. The filter merely examines the spambayes classification line in the header and sends spam to the trash bin, and unsure to a folder of your choosing, seems right to me. Then, it configures a couple of buttons that appear on the toolbar, and those are linked to manual filtering actions: "sb_filter.py -s" for the spam button and "sb_filter.py -g" for the not spam button. If the Spambayes proxy-server is processing the message, how could one version appear in my mail reader's viewing pane, and a different one appear in the web interface??? This is very strange. Thanking anyone, in advance, who has the time to look at this. Kmail viewing pane message header Return-Path: <4seasons at krankination.com> Received: from pam2.krankination.com ([72.11.149.121]) ????????by jefferson.patriot.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id ????????k8S0Y57Q009225 ????????for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:34:10 -0400 X-Mailer: Mcamp:int6-1.1-1110-Sq X-Filter_AZ: WTJ4aGRXUmxYMnB2Ym1WelFHeGxkbWwwYW1GdFpYTXVZMjl0Cg== X-Filter_BZ: TVRNekxraE5UbDgwYzJWaGMyOXVjM1I0ZERZeE15NUpVazlPVUU5U1ZESXROVEkzCg== X-Filter_CZ: UVZWSE1EWnZjQT09Cg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: 27 Sep 2006 20:33:44 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/html; ? charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit From: International Wines ?<4seasons at krankination.com> To: claude_jones at levitjames.com Subject: 12 Bottles of Fine Wine and exclusive gift only 59.88 US dollars Status: R X-UID: 97982 Content-Length: 4062 X-Keywords: X-Spambayes-MailId: 1159403792 X-Spambayes-Classification: unsure; 0.29 X-Status: NC X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: Spambayes web interface view message interface header of same message: Return-Path: <4seasons at krankination.com> Received: from pam2.krankination.com ([72.11.149.121]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id k8S0Y57Q009225 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:34:10 -0400 X-Mailer: Mcamp:int6-1.1-1110-Sq X-Filter_AZ: WTJ4aGRXUmxYMnB2Ym1WelFHeGxkbWwwYW1GdFpYTXVZMjl0Cg== X-Filter_BZ: TVRNekxraE5UbDgwYzJWaGMyOXVjM1I0ZERZeE15NUpVazlPVUU5U1ZESXROVEkzCg== X-Filter_CZ: UVZWSE1EWnZjQT09Cg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: 27 Sep 2006 20:33:44 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit From: International Wines <4seasons at krankination.com> To: claude_jones at levitjames.com Subject: 12 Bottles of Fine Wine and exclusive gift only 59.88 US dollars Status: O X-UID: 97982 Content-Length: 4062 X-Keywords: X-Spambayes-Classification: spam X-Spambayes-MailId: 1159403792 -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA From andrew at cvmgroup.co.uk Thu Sep 28 09:28:17 2006 From: andrew at cvmgroup.co.uk (Andrew Russell) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:28:17 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] message rules Message-ID: <000101c6e2cf$aaf2bbe0$1100a8c0@Andy> Hello all, I have recently installed Spambayes on my machine. I am running windows 2000 professional and using outlook 2000 as my email client. I am having difficulty with just one aspect of my spambayes setup, that being where I have filtering for message rules. It appears that any message that meets the requirements of my message rule avoids the attention on spambayes. This seems to me like too simple a problem for there not to be a solution. Can anyone let me know what it might be. Many thanks Andy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060928/56bf0e4a/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Thu Sep 28 14:28:16 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:28:16 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] what do i do with the infected file? In-Reply-To: <001f01c6e28e$5e908200$0400000a@jjdpscm> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A84@PKCVT01.pkc.com> SpamBayes looks for spam, not viruses. You should have a separate antivirus program. If you do (and it's good), no viruses will reach your inbox, so it's OK for Outlook to open them. I imagine you have messages displayed automatically in a reading pane. You can turn this off, in which case messages will only display (in a new window) when you double-click the subject. With Outlook 2003, select View > Reading Pane > Off from the menu. (The process may or may not be the same with other versions of Outlook.) To directly answer the question to actually asked: I delete spam permanently. I sometimes look over the subjects and senders first to be sure there aren't any messages that were misclassified. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Clare Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 7:41 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] what do i do with the infected file? Hello, What do I do with the infected file? Do I delete them? Utlook opens them automatically if you select them to delete. Clare McHugh Von Stieglitz Senior Case Manager Juvenile Justice Diversion Program - YWCA 08 8928 0588 0413790442 The email message and any attachments are confidential. The information contained in this email message and any attachments may be confidential information and may also be the subject of client - professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited.This email and any attachments are also subject to copyright. No part of them may be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the written permission of the copyright owner. If you have received this email in error, please immediately advise the sender by return email and delete the message from your system. The YWCA of Darwin inc. respects your privacy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060928/57b892ef/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Thu Sep 28 14:35:31 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:35:31 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] message rules In-Reply-To: <000101c6e2cf$aaf2bbe0$1100a8c0@Andy> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04A85@PKCVT01.pkc.com> You might want to have a look at the SpamBayes Manager's Advanced tab. By default, SpamBayes delays processing incoming messages in order to allow Outlook rules to have precedence, but the Advanced tab allows you to change that. Click SpamBayes on the Outlook toolbar, then select "SpamBayes Manager..." from the menu that's displayed, and click the Advanced tab. The help button on the caption bar allows you to get an explanation for each setting. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Russell Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:28 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] message rules Hello all, I have recently installed Spambayes on my machine. I am running windows 2000 professional and using outlook 2000 as my email client. I am having difficulty with just one aspect of my spambayes setup, that being where I have filtering for message rules. It appears that any message that meets the requirements of my message rule avoids the attention on spambayes. This seems to me like too simple a problem for there not to be a solution. Can anyone let me know what it might be. Many thanks Andy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My rule is pretty simple, it simply states that when mail is received from account b, move it to folder b. I receive emails for two trading names and need to keep them separate. Can I set up Spambayes to scan the additional folder or will a message rule take effect after a delay if configured correctly thereby allowing spambayes to work its magic before the message rule takes effect? Many thanks Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Don Ireland [mailto:spambayes at donireland.com] Sent: 28 September 2006 14:11 To: Andrew Russell Subject: Re: [Spambayes] message rules The solution is to change the rule so that spam meesages don't meet the requirements. In other words, the rule is too generalized. What is the rule? Don Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Russell To: spambayes at python.org Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:28 AM Subject: [Spambayes] message rules Hello all, I have recently installed Spambayes on my machine. I am running windows 2000 professional and using outlook 2000 as my email client. I am having difficulty with just one aspect of my spambayes setup, that being where I have filtering for message rules. It appears that any message that meets the requirements of my message rule avoids the attention on spambayes. This seems to me like too simple a problem for there not to be a solution. Can anyone let me know what it might be. Many thanks Andy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060928/3861bf8d/attachment.htm From amedee at amedee.be Fri Sep 29 12:51:15 2006 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:51:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] error in sb_server.py In-Reply-To: <43591.82.146.101.169.1159173616.squirrel@amedee.be> References: <43591.82.146.101.169.1159173616.squirrel@amedee.be> Message-ID: <33361.82.146.101.169.1159527075.squirrel@amedee.be> *bump* Any suggestions? On Mon, September 25, 2006 10:40, Amedee Van Gasse said: > I have the following bash script for getting the spambayes stats: > > #!/bin/sh > # > sb_server.py 1>/dev/null & > sleep .5 > elinks -source http://localhost:8880 | grep am: | html2text > pkill sb_server.py 2>&1 > > > Since a few days, I get the following error: > > amedee at elbereth { ~ }$ ./spamstats > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/sb_server.py", line 104, in ? > import spambayes.message > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 220, > in ? > msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 148, > in __init__ > self.load() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 160, > in load > self.db = pickle.load(fp) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/pickle.py", line 1390, in load > return Unpickler(file).load() > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/pickle.py", line 872, in load > dispatch[key](self) > KeyError: '\x00' > ELinks: Connection refused > > > Same error when I just run "sb_server.py". > > > What's wrong here? > > -- > Amedee > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -- From claudejones at tehogeeservices.com Fri Sep 29 15:24:34 2006 From: claudejones at tehogeeservices.com (Claude Jones) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:24:34 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Inconsistencies in classification between my mail reader and the web interface - being flooded by spam In-Reply-To: <200609272210.07693.claudejones@tehogeeservices.com> References: <200609272210.07693.claudejones@tehogeeservices.com> Message-ID: <200609290924.35017.claudejones@tehogeeservices.com> On Wednesday 27 September 2006 22:10, Claude Jones wrote: > > Sometime in the past year, someone incorporated code in Kmail > that allows it to detect the presence of Spambayes on the > machine in a wizard interface, and it configures a few filters > for you if you choose to allow that. The filters are fairly > innocuous, and seem to do what they're supposed to. But, I'm > wondering if they're the problem. The filter merely examines > the spambayes classification line in the header and sends spam > to the trash bin, and unsure to a folder of your choosing, > seems right to me. Then, it configures a couple of buttons that > appear on the toolbar, and those are linked to manual filtering > actions: "sb_filter.py -s" for the spam button and > "sb_filter.py -g" for the not spam button. > > If the Spambayes proxy-server is processing the message, how > could one version appear in my mail reader's viewing pane, and > a different one appear in the web interface??? This is very > strange. > I think I've found the problem, though the cause is yet not clear, so I post this in case others encounter this issue. Kmail has a wizard for configuring anti-spam filtering. If you click on it, the first thing it does is look for several known anti-spam programs running on your system. If it finds any, it then produces a list. Highlighting any listed program activates a routine in which it then asks where you want to direct detected spam, and probable spam in some cases, and a final click writes a few rules into the filter stack. One of those rules is to pipe all messages through Spambayes to be classified. However, on my system as configured, Spambayes is started up at boot time, and is configured to run checks on all the mail as it comes in by piping it through the proxy server. So, I do a mail check; incoming mail goes through the proxy server and then gets processed by Kmail; Kmail compares the mail against the filter stack, sending known quantities to various folders, and, if the mail message hasn't been processed by any filters, one of the last filters is a pipe to run a Spambayes check. That's the source of the reason one message gets processed, and can appear in two different places with different Spambayes header classifications. It's literally getting two Spambayes checks. In my cited example, the incoming message went through the proxy server and was classified as spam. Then, it was processed by Kmail, and didn't meet any of the filter criteria so it was then piped through a Spambayes check for A SECOND TIME. Now, the only thing that is confusing to me is why there was one analysis that concluded it was spam, and a second that concluded it was unsure... I may be on to the answer, partially. Each time I did this, I was starting over my database anew by deleting three files, which was not quite what the faq instructions stated, by the way - they were .hammie.db hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db Note the two versions of hammie.db - I believe the one without the dot at the beginnning was set up the Kmail wizard - that would mean that the incoming messages were being processed against two different databases! - I guess that would cause the behavior I experienced. I note that now, I've removed the pipe in my Kmail filter stack that sends the message through Spambayes a second time, and now, no hammie.db file has been created, only the .hammie.db --- Well, I had no responses to my first post, but, maybe this will be helpful to someone. If I don't post further followup, assume that the issue is solved. I only had one false negative in my inbox this morning, and about 11 unsures. That's a huge improvement over what I had been getting, just after one evening's training of a new database. -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA From dbancke at stcecilia.pvt.k12.or.us Fri Sep 29 18:14:45 2006 From: dbancke at stcecilia.pvt.k12.or.us (Dianna Bancke) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:14:45 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Installing for all users Message-ID: <2427736045D0F7498B86C4639D04D055394240@SC04.stcecilia.pvt.k12.or.us> I am trying to install SpamBayes on one machine with multiple users. I can only install as an administrator, but that doesn't help the users who log in. Is there a way that I can install as administrator and have it available for all the users on that machine? Thank you for your attention in this matter. Dianna Bancke If you can imagine it, You can achieve it. If you can dream it, You can become it! ~William Arthur Ward -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060929/434fd056/attachment.htm From piotr.budny at gazeta.pl Fri Sep 29 20:48:04 2006 From: piotr.budny at gazeta.pl (Piotr Budny) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:48:04 +0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Fwd: DB error SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.1a1 (April 2005) [Linux} Message-ID: <200609291848.05045.piotr.budny@gazeta.pl> Hello all, After over a year of using SpamBayes, I encountered very strange, and to my regret, not reparable, behaviour. What is odd - I did not change anything in my system, what could cause such strange things happening. When I launch the sb_server.py it starts OK. Getting new emails is also OK, they are sorted. But, when I try to train using web interface (localhost:8880) I am getting first page, I click TRAIN and I get the below shown error. I tried stopping sb_server, removing spambayes.messageinfo.db and restarting it, but same thing happened - three times. So I decided to write here :| Maybe someone will have idea, what to do. Greetings, Vys0 ERROR MESSAGE: Training... 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 470, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/ProxyUI.py", line 419, in onReview fromCache=True) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Corpus.py", line 188, in takeMessage self.addMessage(msg) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/FileCorpus.py", line 102, in addMessage Corpus.Corpus.addMessage(self, message) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Corpus.py", line 134, in addMessage obs.onAddMessage(message, observer_flags) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 817, in onAddMessage self.train(message) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 825, in train self.bayes.learn(message.tokenize(), self.is_spam) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 279, in learn self._add_msg(wordstream, is_spam) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 390, in _add_msg self._wordinfoset(word, record) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 305, in _wordinfoset self.db[word] = record.__getstate__() File "/usr/src/build/475206-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.3/shelve.py", line 130, in __setitem__ self.dict[key] = f.getvalue() File "/usr/src/build/475206-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.3/bsddb/__init__.py", line 120, in __setitem__ DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: Invalid argument') From nward0617 at rogers.com Fri Sep 29 20:05:33 2006 From: nward0617 at rogers.com (Norris Ward) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:05:33 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] spam, Installing for all users In-Reply-To: <2427736045D0F7498B86C4639D04D055394240@SC04.stcecilia.pvt.k12.or.us> Message-ID: Run this logged in as the administrator : c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Dianna Bancke Sent: September 29, 2006 12:15 PM To: spam at spambayes.invalid; spambayes at python.org Subject: spam,[Spambayes] Installing for all users I am trying to install SpamBayes on one machine with multiple users. I can only install as an administrator, but that doesn't help the users who log in. Is there a way that I can install as administrator and have it available for all the users on that machine? Thank you for your attention in this matter. Dianna Bancke If you can imagine it, You can achieve it. If you can dream it, You can become it! ~William Arthur Ward -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060929/85b9d398/attachment.html