[Spambayes] Filter By Language?

[Jesse Pelton]

How well Outlook's junk mail filtering works depends on 1) the messages
you receive and 2) how well Microsoft's notion of junk matches yours, of
course.  For me, SpamBayes works much better than Outlook's filter.  I
have SpamBayes filter my Outlook junk folders because Outlook puts so
much ham there.  Likewise, a fair amount of spam ends up in my inbox if
I don't have SpamBayes filter it.

By the way, I don't think it's especially helpful to accuse groups or
individuals of ritually doing anything.  Whether or not you intend it,
it implies thoughtlessness and is easily perceived as condescending
and/or insulting.  This can easily lead to a cycle of hostile responses
that end up as shouting matches rather than productive communication.

-jesse-

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]
On Behalf Of Coe, Bob
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:47 AM
To: spambayes at python.org
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Filter By Language?

There's a subset of the user community (I guess Quinn is a member) that
ritually denounces Outlook for a host of shortcomings with little regard
for whether those shortcomings are real. I've used Outlook 2003 for only
a few months, but my observation so far is that its junk mail filter
works pretty well - about as well as Spambayes, actually. Indeed, I've
been meaning to suggest that Spambayes take advantage of that by
training on any manual movement of messages out of the junk mail folder.
You can, of course, use the "delete as spam" button on a message in the
junk mail folder, but not the "recover from spam" button.

You could, I suppose, use Outlook's junk mail folder as Spambayes's spam
folder; but in an Exchange environment Outlook's junk mail folder has to
be in your Exchange inbox, while I've found it useful to place my
Spambayes folders in a .pst file.

Bob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces at python.org 
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Quinn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:27 PM
> To: SpamBayes at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Filter By Language? (SpamBayes: 
> message 5 of 20)
> 
> Quinn> Is there any filtering done for language encoding, and/or is 
> Quinn> there a way to automatically consider everything in certain 
> Quinn> encoding to be spam?
> 
> Skip> Nope.  I believe the charset is probably just another token.  
> Skip> Nothing is cast in stone with SpamBayes.  
> 
> So, it is at least considered, or was that an educated guess?
> 
> Skip> If your mail program can filter on it, go ahead and set up a 
> Skip> filter to trap those mails with Russian encodings.
> 
> Unfortunately, no.  :-(  I can filter for "Words in Header", 
> but not encoding.  I might be able to do it by learning the 
> notations for the encodings, though.  I hate Outlook.  If I 
> were willing to use their junk mail filter, I could filter by 
> language, but it won't let you turn off everything _but_ that.  Grr.
> 
> Quinn

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