From JenDoan83 at aol.com Wed Mar 1 00:59:17 2006 From: JenDoan83 at aol.com (JenDoan83 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:59:17 EST Subject: [Spambayes] Retrieve a deleted/noted SPAM email Message-ID: <246.7a61a42.31363dd5@aol.com> I deleted a spam by accident and would like to get it back do you know how to do that on AOL. Thanks Jen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060228/fd6d183b/attachment.htm From Chris.Allen at ascomws.co.uk Wed Mar 1 10:37:07 2006 From: Chris.Allen at ascomws.co.uk (Chris Allen) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:37:07 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Notification Message-ID: <786C6522A7BFB3468CFB43D66EEE845E19203A@uksevsrvexch01.ascomtelenova.com> Hi, I am impressed with the accuracy of Spambayes, and it is coping with an extremely large amount of spam, however is there a way to stop being notified of Spam, as I keep thinking I've got an email and its just spam. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060301/91a1ffa3/attachment.htm From petroczi at mail.datanet.hu Wed Mar 1 21:16:49 2006 From: petroczi at mail.datanet.hu (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Petr=F3czi_Bal=E1zs?=) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:16:49 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] python 2.4 installed the extension doesn't see it.. Message-ID: <001c01c63d6d$1295bad0$6e1538c3@petrob> Hi, there, I downloaded python 2.4, istalled it. Then wanted to install pywin32-207.win32-py2.2.exe, as instructed, but it sends me a message saying that "python 2.2 is not found in the registry". Tried the same with all the former versions of python , but got the same message... Please, tell me which files will work, finally on Windows XP SP2 for outlook express. The direct links would be the best because I have got tired of trying... Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060301/0a21ede9/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 2 01:03:39 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:03:39 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] python 2.4 installed the extension doesn't see it.. In-Reply-To: <001c01c63d6d$1295bad0$6e1538c3@petrob> References: <001c01c63d6d$1295bad0$6e1538c3@petrob> Message-ID: <55A05119-29D6-4A53-B8AE-6AC3674F0828@ihug.co.nz> > I downloaded python 2.4, istalled it. Then wanted to install > pywin32-207.win32-py2.2.exe, as instructed, but it sends me a > message saying that "python 2.2 is not found in the registry". > Tried the same with all the former versions of python , but got the > same message... > Please, tell me which files will work, finally on Windows XP SP2 > for outlook express. The direct links would be the best because I > have got tired of trying... Are you sure you want to use the source? Windows users are generally best off downloading the binary version (see http://spambayes.org/ windows.html) rather than installing Python, pywin32, and the SpamBayes source. Your problem is that you are attempting to install pywin32 for Python 2.2, but you installed Python 2.4. You need to either install Python 2.2, or (better) download py2win32 for Python 2.4 (there will be py2.4 in the filename). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 2 01:06:08 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:06:08 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Asking for a help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [...] > give us all necessary information for my diploma paper in English and > if it's possible with tables and pictures, We're not a homework-help service, sorry. > 1. How does the Spambayes system work with the using of Bayestian > networks? Start with http://spambayes.org/background.html and work from there. > 2. Where we can get full version of your programme? http://spambayes.org. > 3. Detailed (step-by-step)information about setting. > 4. How to configure your programme? See the FAQ, particularly questions 4.11 to 4.13: http:// spambayes.org/faq.html =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 2 01:08:32 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:08:32 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Retrieve a deleted/noted SPAM email In-Reply-To: <246.7a61a42.31363dd5@aol.com> References: <246.7a61a42.31363dd5@aol.com> Message-ID: > I deleted a spam by accident and would like to get it back do you > know how > to do that on AOL. Look in your mail program (e.g. Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird)'s "Deleted Items" or "Trash" folder and see if the message is there. If not, then you probably cannot get the message back. Since this has nothing to do with SpamBayes, you should try and get any further help from your ISP. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 2 01:24:35 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:24:35 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Notification In-Reply-To: <786C6522A7BFB3468CFB43D66EEE845E19203A@uksevsrvexch01.ascomtelenova.com> References: <786C6522A7BFB3468CFB43D66EEE845E19203A@uksevsrvexch01.ascomtelenova.com> Message-ID: <24FD20BB-EBD7-4A0C-A02D-26AB6F09B1EF@ihug.co.nz> > is there a way to stop being notified of Spam, as I keep thinking > I've got an email and its just spam. Please see: [ 774978 ] Hide envelope icon when only spam received http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=774978&group_id=61702&atid=498106 =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From leec at bazelon.org Wed Mar 1 22:00:39 2006 From: leec at bazelon.org (Lee Carty) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:00:39 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes just stopped working Message-ID: I've used SpamBayes happily for many months and all of a sudden it stopped letting me delete as spam or recover from spam (though it still filters incoming Outlook email). I closed Outlook and rebooted, then uninstalled and downloaded/installed version 1.0.4 - no luck. Sent a message with the log file but have had only an automated response. I did everything it suggested (reviewed FAQs etc) - no luck. Any ideas? Lee Carty Publications Director Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law 1101 15th Street NW, Suite 1212 Washington DC 20005 202-467-5730 ext 121 Fax: 202-223-0409 leec at bazelon.org www.bazelon.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you, Erin From AccountManager at PrivacyManagement.net Sun Mar 5 19:23:56 2006 From: AccountManager at PrivacyManagement.net (Privacy Management) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:23:56 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] I can't resolve this problem... even with an uninstall Message-ID: <000001c64081$f880b060$6601a8c0@Merlin> A challenging problem: On another machine: running XP Home and Outlook 2002, Spambayes ceased to operate, the filter files disappeared, the spambayes toolbar is still in place and all is disfunctional after: Here is what I've tried: 1) Uninstalling and reinstalling the current version of spambayes... after uninstall... the toolbar for spambayes remains and can't be removed (with my knowledge). 2) After reinstalling, the junk mail and junk suspects files are not reinstalled, the toolbar does NOT have the spambayes manager dropdown. I don't know what to do to get it working again... it's been down almost 2 weeks and it's driving me nuts. PLEASE HELP PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060305/5063626b/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 145 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060305/5063626b/attachment.gif From andy at pcmann.co.uk Mon Mar 6 11:35:31 2006 From: andy at pcmann.co.uk (Andy Heeney) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:35:31 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes has vanished Message-ID: Hi, I seem to have developed a problem wit SB (v1.1a1). The program was working perfectly and then this morning I noticed it did not filter any messages and some spam landed in my inbox. I tried to mark them as Spam using the add-in button but it didn't do anything. I tried to access the SpamBayes manager but nothing happened there either. I restarted Outlook. I followed the instruction in the Troubleshooting guide and removed the add-in from the toolbar and then restarted Outlook again but now there is just a gap where SpamBayes used to be. I tried deleting the outcmd.dat file but no luck. I tried un-installing SpamBayes and resinstalling it but no luck. Checked the spambayes1.log file but is shows a happy install. Any suggestions? I cant envisage email without my trusty SpamBayes! Andy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060306/3331da19/attachment.html From roymorley at eventlogistics.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 6 14:36:48 2006 From: roymorley at eventlogistics.demon.co.uk (Roy Morley) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 13:36:48 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook 2003 Message-ID: i've searched your site but whilst I can't see a resolution to my problem it seems many other people have the same problem. When I try to use spam bayes to delete messages in 2003 it just crashes. I've downloaded the most up to date spam bayes. My version of outlook is Version 11.8002.6568 SP2. Needless to say the outlook version of spam removal is rubbish & I'd really like to use spam bayes again. I have outlook 2003 on another computer & spam bayes works fine on this one. any idea's? Roy Morley Site & Event Logistics Ltd Bracken Cottage 8 Chearsley Road Long Crendon Buckinghamshire HP18 9BT 01844 208009 Fax 08700 524993 www.eventlogistics.demon.co.uk Skype Callto://roymorleysel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060306/87b3f27a/attachment.htm From rgmorrison at ft.newyorklife.com Mon Mar 6 16:57:46 2006 From: rgmorrison at ft.newyorklife.com (rgmorrison) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:57:46 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] reset filter Message-ID: <004a01c64136$b6abce30$13a312ac@field.nt.newyorklife.com> Raul G. Morrison Senior Partner Greater Detroit G.O. New York Life Insurance Company 2000 Town Center, ste 1200 Southfield, MI 48075 248-352-0620 248-352-3713 fax If you do not wish to receive email communications from New York Life, please reply to this email, using the words "opt out" in the subject line. Please copy mail_optout at newyorklife.com New York Life Insurance Co., 51 Madison Ave, New York, NY 10010 From alekavladimir at latinmail.com Tue Mar 7 01:08:57 2006 From: alekavladimir at latinmail.com (aleksandra vladimir) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 01:08:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] MIKHAIL KHODORKOVSKY Message-ID: <20060307000857.BFD451E4007@bag.python.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When you simplify it so anyone can use it I will recommend it -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060307/0e4d0866/attachment.htm From Oliver.Marshall at g2support.com Tue Mar 7 12:54:46 2006 From: Oliver.Marshall at g2support.com (Oliver Marshall) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 11:54:46 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] your program Message-ID: <161A23FF529F614582A5C1F469FA7B6C05D786@indigo.G2Support.local> Spambayes has to be one of the simplest anti-spam packages to use, particularly if you use Outlook. All you have to do is train it for a few weeks by clicking Spam or Not Spam. Not really hard is it. As for manually deleting things; from my experience you probably had your email package running when you tried to remove spambayes. Just go C:\program files\ and delete the spambayes folder. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Linc2 Sent: 07 March 2006 11:16 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] your program I tried it, I did not like it, I tried to remove it and the damn thing said I would have to remove parts of it manually. How do I do that. I need specific directions. Note: Your program is way to difficult to use. When you simplify it so anyone can use it I will recommend it From alekavladimir at latinmail.com Tue Mar 7 21:07:41 2006 From: alekavladimir at latinmail.com (aleksandra vladimir) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:07:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] MIKHAIL KHODORKOVSKY Message-ID: <20060307200741.EA3F01E4002@bag.python.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060307/9b65bc76/attachment.htm From Wayne at AfterHoursComputing.com Wed Mar 8 15:10:40 2006 From: Wayne at AfterHoursComputing.com (Wayne Kantor) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:10:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Spam bayes Message-ID: <0MKoyl-1FGzO53IPD-0001zf@mrelay.perfora.net> Hello, I am using Windows XP Pro with SP2. Office 2003 with the Outlook spambayes plugin 1.04. The problem I have is that spambayes is marking everything as spam or possible spam. I then have to tell spambayes to recover from junk mail for every message. I have reset the configuration settings an still not fixed. Wayne Kantor After Hours Computing 170 Eli Drive Winchendon, MA 01475 V: 978.297.0160 E: Wayne at AfterHoursComputing.com W: www.AfterHoursComputing.com From Brian.Piltin at jerhel.net Wed Mar 8 18:20:49 2006 From: Brian.Piltin at jerhel.net (Brian Piltin) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:20:49 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Emails that contain only an image... Message-ID: Hi All, I had asked a question about this a couple of weeks ago, and I wasn't sure if it got through. Anyway, I love this program and thank the developers for making it freeware. The one issue I noticed is that it has a difficult time categorizing messages that only contain an image. It seems that a lot of spammers these days are sending spam in the form of a message containing a single image with text rendered in that image. I understand the difficulty in categorizing these messages as spam, but is there any way to tell the program to simply junk messages that are of this type? I usually don't get useful emails from people that don't contain any text at all so if there was some way to train it to recognize a message with no text and maybe just an image as spam it would be very helpful. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060308/0ac3ff69/attachment.htm From bob at 1776.com Thu Mar 9 04:42:54 2006 From: bob at 1776.com (Robert K. Coe) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:42:54 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] your program In-Reply-To: <000801c641d8$7cd19850$fa6df442@larry> Message-ID: <000001c6432b$8ca86a20$03011cac@CambridgeMA.GOV> There's a famous aphorism that I think applies in this case. It's sometimes attributed to Albert Einstein: "Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler." Actually, if you can learn to drive a car or operate a digital camera, you can certainly learn to use Spambayes. However, if the shoe fits then by all means wear it. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Linc2 Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:16 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] your program I tried it, I did not like it, I tried to remove it and the damn thing said I would have to remove parts of it manually. How do I do that. I need specific directions. Note: Your program is way to difficult to use. When you simplify it so anyone can use it I will recommend it -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060308/27bcd7b8/attachment.htm From 16trees at comcast.net Thu Mar 9 05:20:28 2006 From: 16trees at comcast.net (Sixteen Trees) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:20:28 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple servers issue Message-ID: <440FAD0C.2020402@comcast.net> Hi, I'm using Thunderbird to access 3 different email accounts. Two of them are from the same provider (Comcast) and the other is my own website (mysite). In the configuration I have: mail.comcast.net,mail.comcast.net,mail.mysite.com 8110,8111,8112 In Thunderbird I have the server settings for each as follows: localhost 8110 name1 localhost 8111 name2 localhost 8112 name3 I've only received one test email from the 1st account and nothing for the others. On the spambayes home page it shows: POP3 proxy running on *8110, 8111,8112*, proxying to *mail.comcast.net:110, mail.comcast.net:110,** mail.mysite.com:110 * It seems like each of them should be xxxx:8110, yyyy:8111.... Any ideas what I'm doing wrong. Unfortunately I can't find any examples that actually show the use of multiple servers. Thanks, Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060308/2c6c414a/attachment.htm From montejw at earthlink.net Thu Mar 9 05:39:57 2006 From: montejw at earthlink.net (Monte) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:39:57 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple servers issue In-Reply-To: <440FAD0C.2020402@comcast.net> References: <440FAD0C.2020402@comcast.net> Message-ID: <440FB19D.4040009@earthlink.net> Sixteen Trees wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using Thunderbird to access 3 different email accounts. Two of them > are from the same provider (Comcast) and the other is my own website > (mysite). > > In the configuration I have: > mail.comcast.net,mail.comcast.net,mail.mysite.com > 8110,8111,8112 > > In Thunderbird I have the server settings for each as follows: > localhost 8110 > name1 > > localhost 8111 > name2 > > localhost 8112 > name3 > > I've only received one test email from the 1st account and nothing for > the others. On the spambayes home page it shows: > POP3 proxy running on *8110, 8111,8112*, proxying to > *mail.comcast.net:110, mail.comcast.net:110,** mail.mysite.com:110 > * > It seems like each of them should be xxxx:8110, yyyy:8111.... > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong. Unfortunately I can't find any examples > that actually show the use of multiple servers. > > Thanks, > Mike I'm doing the same with thunderbird. I've got the ports set to 115, 120, 125. It does show the same thing, all three proxying to server:110, server:110, server:110 and it works fine. Send emails from one account to the others to test. One thing I had to do IF any 2 accounts have the same username, I had to use "localhost" for one and "127.0.0.1" for the other for the 'POP Mail Server' 'Server Name'. Monte From Oliver.Marshall at g2support.com Thu Mar 9 09:00:00 2006 From: Oliver.Marshall at g2support.com (Oliver Marshall) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:00:00 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] your program Message-ID: <161A23FF529F614582A5C1F469FA7B6C05D7A8@indigo.G2Support.local> I'm still lost as to how it can be too hard to use :S /me stares at the "Spam" & "Not Spam" icons -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Robert K. Coe Sent: 09 March 2006 03:43 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] your program There's a famous aphorism that I think applies in this case. It's sometimes attributed to Albert Einstein: "Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler." Actually, if you can learn to drive a car or operate a digital camera, you can certainly learn to use Spambayes. However, if the shoe fits then by all means wear it. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Linc2 Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:16 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] your program I tried it, I did not like it, I tried to remove it and the damn thing said I would have to remove parts of it manually. How do I do that. I need specific directions. Note: Your program is way to difficult to use. When you simplify it so anyone can use it I will recommend it From Wayne at AfterHoursComputing.com Thu Mar 9 14:31:13 2006 From: Wayne at AfterHoursComputing.com (Wayne Kantor) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:31:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam not marked as read Spam and possible spam Message-ID: <0MKoyl-1FHLEO1Qbl-00020x@mrelay.perfora.net> A mail message that is labeled as spam or possible spam is not being marked as read. I have both entries selected to mark spam and possible spam as read. I have uninstalled and re-installed. I have reset configuration. Windows XP Pro SP2 Spambayes 1.0.4 Log file attached Wayne Kantor After Hours Computing 170 Eli Drive Winchendon, MA 01475 V: 978.297.0160 E: Wayne at AfterHoursComputing.com W: www.AfterHoursComputing.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Coe; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] your program I'm still lost as to how it can be too hard to use :S /me stares at the "Spam" & "Not Spam" icons -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Robert K. Coe Sent: 09 March 2006 03:43 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] your program There's a famous aphorism that I think applies in this case. It's sometimes attributed to Albert Einstein: "Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler." Actually, if you can learn to drive a car or operate a digital camera, you can certainly learn to use Spambayes. However, if the shoe fits then by all means wear it. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Linc2 Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:16 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] your program I tried it, I did not like it, I tried to remove it and the damn thing said I would have to remove parts of it manually. How do I do that. I need specific directions. Note: Your program is way to difficult to use. When you simplify it so anyone can use it I will recommend it _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Oliver.Marshall at g2support.com Thu Mar 9 14:59:57 2006 From: Oliver.Marshall at g2support.com (Oliver Marshall) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:59:57 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] your program Message-ID: <161A23FF529F614582A5C1F469FA7B6C05D7AE@indigo.G2Support.local> >From my experience, this is more likely down to the failings of outlook express, which was never really built with the level of integration of Outlook, or the plugin infrastructure of packages like Thunderbird. Perhaps he should have said "Why is outlook express so terrible" ? -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton Sent: 09 March 2006 14:00 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] your program The original message appears to have been sent with Outlook Express. This is not the first message to indicate that Outlook Express users sometimes have trouble installing, understanding, and using SpamBayes. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Marshall Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:00 AM To: Robert K. Coe; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] your program I'm still lost as to how it can be too hard to use :S /me stares at the "Spam" & "Not Spam" icons -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Robert K. Coe Sent: 09 March 2006 03:43 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] your program There's a famous aphorism that I think applies in this case. It's sometimes attributed to Albert Einstein: "Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler." Actually, if you can learn to drive a car or operate a digital camera, you can certainly learn to use Spambayes. However, if the shoe fits then by all means wear it. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Linc2 Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:16 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] your program I tried it, I did not like it, I tried to remove it and the damn thing said I would have to remove parts of it manually. How do I do that. I need specific directions. Note: Your program is way to difficult to use. When you simplify it so anyone can use it I will recommend it _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From amedee at amedee.be Fri Mar 10 14:09:47 2006 From: amedee at amedee.be (amedee at amedee.be) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:09:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes doesn't seem to be doing anything Message-ID: <1141996187.17315@localhost.localdomain> I installed spambayes on debian: apt-get install spambayes I'm using postfix with procmail. I have the following mbox files in /var/mail: > ls -al /var/mail total 5652 drwxrwsr-x 2 root mail 4096 Mar 10 13:49 . drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Nov 18 15:24 .. -rw-rw---- 1 amedee mail 2115277 Mar 10 13:49 amedee -rw-rw---- 1 nobody mail 3645536 Mar 10 13:49 nobody -rw-rw---- 1 root mail 1056 Mar 8 17:51 root I have the following in /etc/procmailrc: > cat /etc/procmailrc :0 fw | sb_filter.py :0: * ^X-Spambayes-Classification: spam spam :0: * ^X-Spambayes-Classification: unknown unknown I trained spambayes with the files in /var/mail: /var/mail/amedee contains about 50 ham /var/mail/nobody contains about 500 spam I am aware that ham/spam should be about the same size but for the moment that is not yet very important. The problem is that I am still receiving a lot of obvious spam in /var/mail/amedee, about the same amount as before the spambayes installation. Have I missed something? What should I check? -- Amedee Van Gasse From burtonwg at quik.com Fri Mar 10 16:40:44 2006 From: burtonwg at quik.com (Bil Burton) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:40:44 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple spambayes toolbars Message-ID: I have two (sometimes three) spambaye tool bars. The lower bars usually incomplete (they have delete key but not recover, and the dropdown menu is blank). Windows XP /Outlook Bil From crc at amigo.net Sat Mar 11 02:02:28 2006 From: crc at amigo.net (CRC) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:02:28 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] New Computer Message-ID: <000001c644a7$804328b0$824a5ed1@CRC1> I have been using spambayes for awhile and we recently purchased a new computer. Is there a way to "import" my filtering from the old machine to the new machine or do I just need to start over with the training. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 10/03/2006 From j.beyer at web.de Mon Mar 13 10:32:31 2006 From: j.beyer at web.de (Joerg Beyer) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:31 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py? Message-ID: <44153C2F.30902@web.de> Hi, I am looking for example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py. Is there any sample code available to train a given mail as ham/spam? tia joerg From Oliver.Marshall at g2support.com Mon Mar 13 10:32:49 2006 From: Oliver.Marshall at g2support.com (Oliver Marshall) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:32:49 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] So long...fair well..... Message-ID: <161A23FF529F614582A5C1F469FA7B6C05D7CD@indigo.G2Support.local> So long all. I have moved to a server side antispam package now, and am wanting to sign off the spambayes list. Can anyone unsubscribe me from the list ? Thanks Olly From j.beyer at web.de Mon Mar 13 10:59:14 2006 From: j.beyer at web.de (Joerg Beyer) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:59:14 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py? Message-ID: <44154272.9030503@web.de> Hi, I am looking for example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py. Is there any sample code available to train a given mail as ham/spam? tia joerg From tim at aterraform.com Mon Mar 13 14:08:14 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:08:14 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] So long...fair well..... In-Reply-To: <161A23FF529F614582A5C1F469FA7B6C05D7CD@indigo.G2Support.local> References: <161A23FF529F614582A5C1F469FA7B6C05D7CD@indigo.G2Support.local> Message-ID: <44156EBE.6090008@aterraform.com> You can unsubscribe yourself by visiting http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes. Nobody else can unsubscribe you, for obvious reasons ;) Oliver Marshall wrote: >So long all. I have moved to a server side antispam package now, and am >wanting to sign off the spambayes list. > >Can anyone unsubscribe me from the list ? > >Thanks > >Olly >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > > > From jacquespierre.mariot at acmeconsultants.fr Mon Mar 13 15:50:10 2006 From: jacquespierre.mariot at acmeconsultants.fr (Jacques Pierre Mariot) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:50:10 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] yes Message-ID: <001f01c646ad$6dbdf550$1000a8c0@JPM> Bonjour, Jacques Pierre Mariot tel : + 33 (0)4 50 26 41 83 mobile : + 33 (0)6 70 27 58 67 fax : + 33 (0)4 50 26 35 02 ACME Consultants - 34 Bd Haussmann 75 009 Paris - France France -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bill> The Outlook Express how-to document suggests there is a Bill> work-around, so... Bill> What is it please? I'm not a Windows nor an Outlook Express user, so take this with a grain of salt... You might try annotating the subject instead of the to field (option: notate_subject). You might also try setting the header_*_string options to something else. I don't know if the header notation stuff looks at those values or not. I have them prefixed with my machine name, titan, e.g.: [Headers] include_evidence: True header_spam_string: titan-spam header_ham_string: titan-ham header_unsure_string: titan-unsure That way I can distinguish X-SpamBayes-Classification headers added by different machines. You might want to get rid of "ham", "spam" and "unsure" altogether: [Headers] include_evidence: True header_spam_string: YouSlimebag! header_ham_string: You'reMyFriend! header_unsure_string: WhoAreYou? Finally, make sure that Outlook Express's filter rule is properly restrictive. It should be filtering on "spam,", not just "spam". You shouldn't see "spam," in a domain name. Skip From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 13 21:14:56 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:14:56 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam". In-Reply-To: <17429.46743.251941.293011@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <17429.46743.251941.293011@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: [Bill Hely] >> I own a domain with "spam" in the domain name so, because of the >> way the proxy brands eMail, the Outlook Express rules trap all >> messages to that domain as spam. >> >> I tried changing the [Headers]notate_to: item in >> bayescustomize.ini to something more unique, but that didn't work. The string that is added is the value in [Headers] header_spam_string. It will get added iff [Headers] notate_to contains that string. IIRC 1.0.4 has a bug with this that means you'll find it hard to set both. This is fixed in CVS, so if 1.0.4 doesn't have the fix, you might have to move to that. CVS also has a better notate_to system (see below), so that could also solve your problem. >> The Outlook Express how-to document suggests there is a >> work-around, so... >> >> What is it please? Don't use Outlook Express <0.5 wink>. [Skip] > I'm not a Windows nor an Outlook Express user, so take this with a > grain of > salt... You might try annotating the subject instead of the to field > (option: notate_subject). That would certainly work. The catch then is if you have other mail whose subject that starts with "spam,". (Note that you should include the comma in the rule, to avoid catching just "spam"). > Finally, make sure that Outlook Express's filter rule is properly > restrictive. It should be filtering on "spam,", not just "spam". You > shouldn't see "spam," in a domain name. Note that in 1.1 the 'notate to' system has changed somewhat, so that it adds header_spam_string at spambayes.invalid. This both makes it easier to catch without false positives, and doesn't break the rules of the To: header. IIRC Outlook Express considers the comma in the To header a recipient delimiter, so "spam" (no comma) will be a recipient, and I'm not sure if you can filter to include the comma or not. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 13 21:16:46 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:16:46 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] New Computer In-Reply-To: <000001c644a7$804328b0$824a5ed1@CRC1> References: <000001c644a7$804328b0$824a5ed1@CRC1> Message-ID: <89CCB742-09CF-4D4D-991D-10EB7E642EC0@ihug.co.nz> > Is there a way to ?import? my filtering from the old machine to the > new machine or do I just need to start over with the training. Please see FAQ 3.6: Note that retraining is often a good idea anyway, so it's worth considering doing that, especially since SpamBayes ought to learn very quickly. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 13 21:17:37 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:17:37 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple spambayes toolbars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I have two (sometimes three) spambaye tool bars. The lower bars > usually > incomplete (they have delete key but not recover, and the dropdown > menu is > blank). Have you tried deleting them both? SpamBayes will recreate the toolbar next time you start Outlook. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 13 21:21:54 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:21:54 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes doesn't seem to be doing anything In-Reply-To: <1141996187.17315@localhost.localdomain> References: <1141996187.17315@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <9C71DE97-BA8F-4865-8590-309384E5A4A7@ihug.co.nz> > The problem is that I am still receiving a lot of obvious spam in / > var/mail/amedee, about the same amount as before the spambayes > installation. Have I missed something? What should I check? Please see FAQ 4.7 and 4.9: You should also check that the messages are actually being classified (i.e. look to see that there is an X-Spambayes-Classification header). BTW, you didn't say what your .spambayesrc file looked like, but unless you've changed it, X-Spambayes-Classification will never be 'unknown' - it will be 'spam', 'ham', or 'unsure'. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 13 21:23:35 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:23:35 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py? In-Reply-To: <44154272.9030503@web.de> References: <44154272.9030503@web.de> Message-ID: > I am looking for example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py. I presume you mean sb_xmlrpcserver.py. > Is there any sample > code available to train a given mail as ham/spam? Have you looked at sb_client.py? It classifies rather than trains, but it's not particularly different. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 13 21:28:33 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:28:33 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <44159491.5040300@comcast.net> References: <44159491.5040300@comcast.net> Message-ID: > The problem I am having is configuring for Mozilla Thunderbird > through which I monitor three POP3 email addresses. All three use > the same incoming port (110) and the same outgoing port (25), but > for three servers, the configuration demands that all ports are > unique. Say your three servers are example.com, example2.com and example3.com, all on port 110. What you need to do is: 1. Tell SpamBayes to proxy these three servers. Put all three, "example.com,example2.com,example3.com", in the "remote servers" section of the SpamBayes configuration. 2. Tell SpamBayes to proxy these three servers on local ports - you can choose whatever ones you like (and aren't used by anything else on the local machine). For example, put "8110,8111,8112" in the "local ports" section of the SpamBayes configuration. 3. Tell Thunderbird that it needs to look at the local machine, on ports 8110, 8111, and 8112, for mail. I don't have a copy of Thunderbird handy, but I'm sure you can find the configuration where you change the server from "example.com" to "localhost" (etc) and the port from "110" to "8110" (etc). Unless you're really positive you need it, don't bother with the SMTP (outgoing) proxy. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From amedee at amedee.be Mon Mar 13 22:40:15 2006 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:40:15 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes doesn't seem to be doing anything In-Reply-To: <9C71DE97-BA8F-4865-8590-309384E5A4A7@ihug.co.nz> References: <1141996187.17315@localhost.localdomain> <9C71DE97-BA8F-4865-8590-309384E5A4A7@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <4415E6BF.90705@amedee.be> Tony Meyer wrote: >> The problem is that I am still receiving a lot of obvious spam in / >> var/mail/amedee, about the same amount as before the spambayes >> installation. Have I missed something? What should I check? > > > Please see FAQ 4.7 and 4.9: > > spam-unsure> "Both the web interface and the Outlook plug-in let you view the clues that make up the message." --> I don't have a web interface, or if I have, I don't know where to look for it... > spam-what-gives> At work I trained spambayes (the Oulook plugin) with a 100:1 ham/spam ratio (1000 ham, 10 spam), the results were good enough. At home I trained spambayes (command line, procmail) with a 1:10 ham/spam ratio (60 ham, 600 spam), I don't see anything happening. I'm quite sure the problem isn't spambayes, the problem is certainly something I have missed in the configuration. I blame cryptic documentation. English is not my native language. > You should also check that the messages are actually being classified > (i.e. look to see that there is an X-Spambayes-Classification header). I don't see any X-Spambayes-Classification header... > BTW, you didn't say what your .spambayesrc file looked like, but unless > you've changed it, X-Spambayes-Classification will never be 'unknown' - > it will be 'spam', 'ham', or 'unsure'. I don not have a .spambayesrc file, should I? I don't want filtering to be done for each user separately, but for all the users at once. -- Amedee From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Tue Mar 14 03:38:17 2006 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:38:17 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam". In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks very much for your help guys. Clarification: I am not using Outlook Express. I am writing about it - well, SpamBayes actually - so changing clients (always my own first recommendation) is not an option for this exercise. Anyway, I am using Outlook Express as the example for all clients that can't use the Outlook plug-in, as there would have to be more Outlook Express out there than all the rest put together. It's a case of satisfy the majority first. Skip: "spam," in the TO line doesn't work. What's actually placed in the TO line is "spam;" and you can't filter on the semi-colon. The best I have been able to come up with so far is to have a filter with two conditions: "spam" in the TO line AND "spam," in the Subject. The comma helps a little (thanks Skip, I missed that) but is obviously not rigidly exclusive. Tony: I see what you mean about the bug in 1.0.4 - I tried every which-way to get it to work, but it seems that you just cannot change the displayed values that are annotated to the TO or Subject lines. Any edits to the "notate_to:" lines results in no annotation at all. Since Outlook Express' filters can't read the X-Spambayes-Classification value in the eMail header, this doesn't seem to be solvable at the moment. So the important question for me now is: How far off is the release of 1.1.x, complete with an installer executable? I'm reluctant to look into the CVS alternative, as I think it complicates matters too much for my target audience. For my own information, to go the CVS route, would I have to install Python and download the 12 files at: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/spambayes/spambayes/ then run setup.py, or is it more complex than that? Sorry, never encountered Python before SpamBayes. BTW, is there any documentation available on the legal entries for bayescustomize.ini? My INI file did not contain some of the entries that Skip showed. If no documentation, what does "include_evidence: True" do? Many thanks for your help. - Bill H. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:15 AM > To: skip at pobox.com > Cc: bill.hely at helyholdings.com; spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam". > > > [Bill Hely] > >> I own a domain with "spam" in the domain name so, because of the > >> way the proxy brands eMail, the Outlook Express rules trap all > >> messages to that domain as spam. > >> > >> I tried changing the [Headers]notate_to: item in > >> bayescustomize.ini to something more unique, but that didn't work. > > The string that is added is the value in [Headers] > header_spam_string. It will get added iff [Headers] notate_to > contains that string. > > IIRC 1.0.4 has a bug with this that means you'll find it hard to set > both. This is fixed in CVS, so if 1.0.4 doesn't have the fix, you > might have to move to that. CVS also has a better notate_to system > (see below), so that could also solve your problem. > > >> The Outlook Express how-to document suggests there is a > >> work-around, so... > >> > >> What is it please? > > Don't use Outlook Express <0.5 wink>. > > [Skip] > > I'm not a Windows nor an Outlook Express user, so take this with a > > grain of > > salt... You might try annotating the subject instead of > the to field > > (option: notate_subject). > > That would certainly work. The catch then is if you have other mail > whose subject that starts with "spam,". (Note that you should > include the comma in the rule, to avoid catching just "spam"). > > > Finally, make sure that Outlook Express's filter rule is properly > > restrictive. It should be filtering on "spam,", not just > "spam". You > > shouldn't see "spam," in a domain name. > > Note that in 1.1 the 'notate to' system has changed somewhat, > so that > it adds header_spam_string at spambayes.invalid. This both makes it > easier to catch without false positives, and doesn't break the rules > of the To: header. IIRC Outlook Express considers the comma in the > To header a recipient delimiter, so "spam" (no comma) will be a > recipient, and I'm not sure if you can filter to include the > comma or > not. > > =Tony.Meyer -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is scanned and certified Virus Free before transmission. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 - Release Date: 13/03/2006 From j.beyer at web.de Tue Mar 14 10:53:16 2006 From: j.beyer at web.de (Joerg Beyer) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:53:16 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py? In-Reply-To: References: <44154272.9030503@web.de> Message-ID: <4416928C.8060005@web.de> Tony Meyer wrote: >> I am looking for example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py. > > > I presume you mean sb_xmlrpcserver.py. yes - the FAQ spells it to sb_xmlrpcsrv.py, see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html > >> Is there any sample >> code available to train a given mail as ham/spam? > > > Have you looked at sb_client.py? It classifies rather than trains, but > it's not particularly different. Thanks for that hint. Now digged deeper into sb_xmlrpcserver.py and I see, that the hammie.Hammie.train() method is not available. I think a patch like this is needed: --- sb_xmlrpcserver.py,orig 2006-03-14 10:20:15.000000000 +0100 +++ sb_xmlrpcserver.py 2006-03-14 10:44:34.629148074 +0100 @@ -60,6 +60,16 @@ pass return xmlrpclib.Binary(hammie.Hammie.filter(self, msg, *extra)) + def train(self, msg, is_spam): + try: + msg = msg.data + except AttributeError: + pass + hammie.Hammie.train(self, msg, is_spam) + + # how do I return "nothing"? (in C this would be a void function) + return xmlrpclib.Boolean(True) + def usage(code, msg=''): """Print usage message and sys.exit(code).""" A minor issue is, that I dont know, how I could return nothing (None?) from that xmlrpc call - so I return a boolean True. Would such a patch be accepted? Do I miss anything? > > =Tony.Meyer > thanks Tony joerg From j.beyer at web.de Tue Mar 14 14:22:07 2006 From: j.beyer at web.de (Joerg Beyer) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:22:07 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_xmlrpcserver.py keeps storage files open Message-ID: <4416C37F.3050707@web.de> Hi, I try to train spambayes from a script. This script detects when I move a mail on my imap account (from the inbox) to other imap folder. If this folder is the spam folder, then I want to train spambayes that mail as spam. If the folder is a usual storage folder (like "family" for mails from the family), then train spambayes this message as ham. >From this article in lwn http://lwn.net/Articles/173206/ I read that popfile seems to work that way. I want to train the ham/spam mails via the xmlrpc server (any other ideas?), so I could run my scripts from any other hosts and the mail server only needs spambayes (incl. the xml rpc server) running. Now the sb_xmlrpcserver.py gets my requests and seems to train the mails but the server doesnt write the storage files back. With lsof I can see, that the server process keeps the file open. I see that the storage file is not altered when I train spambayes (with the xml rpc server). My mail filtering procmail pipes the mails through a sb_filter.py process. Do I need to modify the xmlrpc server to write the trainings data back? Is there anything else I could do? I thought that I let my imap script via cron and let the xml rpc server run all the time. Any ideas how I get the trainings data back on disk, so the procmail filter process sees them? tia joerg From Skip.Sailors at wwu.edu Tue Mar 14 16:13:36 2006 From: Skip.Sailors at wwu.edu (Skip Sailors) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:13:36 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing icon Message-ID: <5220AAA9AAB8C44FA718519E06B47E8903D93108@EVS2.univ.dir.wwu.edu> The delete as spam icon no longer displays on the SpamBayes toolbar. How can I add it back to the toolbar? Skip Sailors Accounting Department College of Business and Economics Western Washington University Phone: 360,650.4893 Email: sailors at wwu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060314/911846c6/attachment.htm From web_use_1 at roemling.org Wed Mar 15 12:40:21 2006 From: web_use_1 at roemling.org (Raffman) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:40:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails Message-ID: <3414058.post@talk.nabble.com> Hello everybody, I've got the following problem: I installed pop3proxy as service on a Windows 2k machine with Exchange. The mails are being received via a POP3-connector for every recipient. When I log into the webconfiguration it tells me this: POP3 proxy running on 110, proxying to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:110. Active POP3 conversations: 0. POP3 conversations this session: 509. Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. Total emails trained: Spam: 1 Ham: 0 More statistics... As far as I understand this, service and proxy-settings are up and working. Problem is I don't get any mails to train my engine. Can somebody help me with this issue? Thanks a lot in advance. Greets, Ralf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Q%3A-pop3proxy%3A-configuration%3A-pop3-sessions-are-counted-but-no-mails-t1284042.html#a3414058 Sent from the Python - spambayes forum at Nabble.com. From fredericcourcelles at rsperron.ca Wed Mar 15 15:29:13 2006 From: fredericcourcelles at rsperron.ca (frederic Courcelles) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:29:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes Message-ID: <000801c6483c$d57f1170$66c3c30a@portablefrederic> i don't understand how they know if my email it's a spam or not i try to send 3 email and all say unsure but i put in subject first test second : penis and third time :test penis please let me know thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060315/a91e471e/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Wed Mar 15 15:59:13 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:59:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0471C@PKCVT01.pkc.com> You need to train SpamBayes what you regard as spam and what you don't. Every time you train on an incorrectly classified message, the classification of messages that arrive later should improve. I'd recommend just using it; don't try testing it with messages that you construct, because they'll almost certainly differ in important ways from actual spam. For instance, if you send messages to yourself from some address and tell SpamBayes that those messages are spam, you'll increase the odds that future messages from that address will be classified as spam, which you might not want. See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net for more details about how SpamBayes works. There's a brief summary at http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#is-there-a-high-level-summary- that-shows-how-spambayes-works. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of frederic Courcelles Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:29 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes i don't understand how they know if my email it's a spam or not i try to send 3 email and all say unsure but i put in subject first test second : penis and third time :test penis please let me know thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060315/b935087c/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Wed Mar 15 16:26:08 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:26:08 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0471D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#can-i-share-move-my-training-d ata-from-one-computer-to-another addresses this. You might want to review the list of FAQs at the top of the page. However, not only do I personally not move training data around, I actually throw it away occasionally and train from scratch. SpamBayes learns very quickly. Retraining generally seems to improve classification somewhat, perhaps because the composition of my message stream changes over time and the new training data better matches the current makeup of the messages I'm receiving. ________________________________ From: frederic Courcelles [mailto:fredericcourcelles at rsperron.ca] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:06 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] spambayes thanks but if you whant install in a other computer i can take my classification and put to the other thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: frederic Courcelles ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] spambayes You need to train SpamBayes what you regard as spam and what you don't. Every time you train on an incorrectly classified message, the classification of messages that arrive later should improve. I'd recommend just using it; don't try testing it with messages that you construct, because they'll almost certainly differ in important ways from actual spam. For instance, if you send messages to yourself from some address and tell SpamBayes that those messages are spam, you'll increase the odds that future messages from that address will be classified as spam, which you might not want. See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net for more details about how SpamBayes works. There's a brief summary at http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#is-there-a-high-level-summary- that-shows-how-spambayes-works. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of frederic Courcelles Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:29 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes i don't understand how they know if my email it's a spam or not i try to send 3 email and all say unsure but i put in subject first test second : penis and third time :test penis please let me know thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060315/c957f6fe/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Wed Mar 15 17:16:13 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:16:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04722@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I can't answer this. Anyone...? -----Original Message----- From: Amedee Van Gasse [mailto:amedee at amedee.be] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:01 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] spambayes Jesse Pelton wrote: > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#can-i-share-move-my-training > -data-from-one-computer-to-another addresses this. You might want to review the list of FAQs at the top of the page. > > However, not only do I personally not move training data around, I > actually throw it away occasionally and train from scratch. SpamBayes > learns very quickly. Retraining generally seems to improve > classification somewhat, perhaps because the composition of my message > stream changes over time and the new training data better matches the > current makeup of the messages I'm receiving. Sorry for hijacking this topic. I have read the suggestions about occasional retraining. Is it possible to automate this? Because I have only found docs that talks about manually doing that. I was thinking about running a cron job that dumps all training data, except the training data for the last X days. Is this possible and if yes, how? -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee.be From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Thu Mar 16 06:34:47 2006 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:34:47 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam". In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This probably needs to be targeted to Tony Meyer. Tony? TIA - Bill H. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Bill Hely > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:38 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam". > > > > Thanks very much for your help guys. > > Clarification: I am not using Outlook Express. I am writing about > it - well, SpamBayes actually - so changing clients (always my > own first recommendation) is not an option for this exercise. > Anyway, I am using Outlook Express as the example for all clients > that can't use the Outlook plug-in, as there would have to be > more Outlook Express out there than all the rest put together. > It's a case of satisfy the majority first. > > Skip: "spam," in the TO line doesn't work. What's actually placed > in the TO line is "spam;" and you can't filter on the semi-colon. > > The best I have been able to come up with so far is to have a > filter with two conditions: "spam" in the TO line AND "spam," in > the Subject. The comma helps a little (thanks Skip, I missed > that) but is obviously not rigidly exclusive. > > Tony: I see what you mean about the bug in 1.0.4 - I tried every > which-way to get it to work, but it seems that you just cannot > change the displayed values that are annotated to the TO or > Subject lines. Any edits to the "notate_to:" lines results in no > annotation at all. Since Outlook Express' filters can't read the > X-Spambayes-Classification value in the eMail header, this > doesn't seem to be solvable at the moment. > > So the important question for me now is: How far off is the > release of 1.1.x, complete with an installer executable? I'm > reluctant to look into the CVS alternative, as I think it > complicates matters too much for my target audience. > > For my own information, to go the CVS route, would I have to > install Python and download the 12 files at: > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/spambayes/spambayes/ then > run setup.py, or is it more complex than that? Sorry, never > encountered Python before SpamBayes. > > BTW, is there any documentation available on the legal entries > for bayescustomize.ini? My INI file did not contain some of the > entries that Skip showed. If no documentation, what does > "include_evidence: True" do? > > Many thanks for your help. > > - Bill H. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:15 AM > > To: skip at pobox.com > > Cc: bill.hely at helyholdings.com; spambayes at python.org > > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam". > > > > > > [Bill Hely] > > >> I own a domain with "spam" in the domain name so, because of > the > > >> way the proxy brands eMail, the Outlook Express rules trap > all > > >> messages to that domain as spam. > > >> > > >> I tried changing the [Headers]notate_to: item in > > >> bayescustomize.ini to something more unique, but that didn't > work. > > > > The string that is added is the value in [Headers] > > header_spam_string. It will get added iff [Headers] notate_to > > > contains that string. > > > > IIRC 1.0.4 has a bug with this that means you'll find it hard > to set > > both. This is fixed in CVS, so if 1.0.4 doesn't have the fix, > you > > might have to move to that. CVS also has a better notate_to > system > > (see below), so that could also solve your problem. > > > > >> The Outlook Express how-to document suggests there is a > > >> work-around, so... > > >> > > >> What is it please? > > > > Don't use Outlook Express <0.5 wink>. > > > > [Skip] > > > I'm not a Windows nor an Outlook Express user, so take this > with a > > > grain of > > > salt... You might try annotating the subject instead of > > the to field > > > (option: notate_subject). > > > > That would certainly work. The catch then is if you have other > mail > > whose subject that starts with "spam,". (Note that you should > > > include the comma in the rule, to avoid catching just "spam"). > > > > > Finally, make sure that Outlook Express's filter rule is > properly > > > restrictive. It should be filtering on "spam,", not just > > "spam". You > > > shouldn't see "spam," in a domain name. > > > > Note that in 1.1 the 'notate to' system has changed somewhat, > > so that > > it adds header_spam_string at spambayes.invalid. This both makes > it > > easier to catch without false positives, and doesn't break the > rules > > of the To: header. IIRC Outlook Express considers the comma in > the > > To header a recipient delimiter, so "spam" (no comma) will be a > > > recipient, and I'm not sure if you can filter to include the > > comma or > > not. > > > > =Tony.Meyer -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is scanned and certified Virus Free before transmission. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 14/03/2006 From p.driessen at spl.mercedes-benz.be Thu Mar 16 18:49:03 2006 From: p.driessen at spl.mercedes-benz.be (P. Driessen) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:49:03 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: Patrick Driessen (Sales Manager Van & Trucks) Truck Center N.V Bergensesteeweg 707 1600 Sint-Pieters-Leeuw Tel: +32 2 334 11 29 Fax: +32 2 334 11 31 GSM : +32 473 208 950 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060316/3b9c1e02/attachment.htm From p.driessen at spl.mercedes-benz.be Thu Mar 16 19:10:40 2006 From: p.driessen at spl.mercedes-benz.be (P. Driessen) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:10:40 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: Patrick Driessen (Sales Manager Van & Trucks) Truck Center N.V Bergensesteeweg 707 1600 Sint-Pieters-Leeuw Tel: +32 2 334 11 29 Fax: +32 2 334 11 31 GSM : +32 473 208 950 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From lisa at gogetnetted.com.au Fri Mar 17 04:34:55 2006 From: lisa at gogetnetted.com.au (Lisa Harrison) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:34:55 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Wonderful Message-ID: <000501c64973$c2974cc0$9a30fea9@MUM> Hi Spambayes is wonderful, and your trouble shooting guide is excellent! Lisa Harrison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060317/868192f7/attachment.htm From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Fri Mar 17 07:00:09 2006 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:00:09 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <441A2D24.2030409@adelphia.net> Message-ID: Seems to be exceptionally quiet here the past week Ian, so I'll try to help, but I need more info. Are you using the Outlook plug-in version of SpamBayes? Have you been running it for a while or is it just installed? Did you ever have an "Unsure" or "Junk Suspects" folder? - Bill H. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Ian Collins > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 1:30 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) > > > How can I access 'Junk Suspects'? -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is scanned and certified Virus Free before transmission. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 16/03/2006 From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Fri Mar 17 07:12:24 2006 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:12:24 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are countedbut no mails In-Reply-To: <3414058.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: Not quite sure what you're getting at Ralf. Forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but you won't get any eMails to review (train on) in the web interface until you do a send/Receive from your eMail client program. The proxy doesn't retrieve any mail until the client tells it to. Once you have retrieved mail into your client program, that mail should be available for review/training at: http://localhost:8880/review If I'm way off the mark please explain. - Bill H. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Raffman > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:40 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 > sessions are countedbut no mails > > > > Hello everybody, > I've got the following problem: > > I installed pop3proxy as service on a Windows 2k machine with > Exchange. The > mails are being received via a POP3-connector for every recipient. > > When I log into the webconfiguration it tells me this: > > POP3 proxy running on 110, proxying to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:110. > Active POP3 conversations: 0. > POP3 conversations this session: 509. > Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. > Total emails trained: Spam: 1 Ham: 0 > More statistics... > > As far as I understand this, service and proxy-settings are > up and working. > Problem is I don't get any mails to train my engine. > Can somebody help me with this issue? > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Greets, > Ralf -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is scanned and certified Virus Free before transmission. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 16/03/2006 From web_use_1 at roemling.org Fri Mar 17 15:34:54 2006 From: web_use_1 at roemling.org (Raffman) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 06:34:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are countedbut no mails In-Reply-To: References: <3414058.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <3456931.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi Bill, well actually I installed pop3proxy on an exchange-server. We're not hosting our mails on this server but only receive them via a pop3-connector from our web-provider. Every account is polled seperately in intervalls of 10 minutes. I've set up the proxy to our mail-providers server-ip, proxying on port 110. So every mail received via pop3 on port 110 should be filtered when it's polled by the exchange, which afterwards delivers the mail to the recipients. Because pop3proxy is counting the pop3-session-connects (see pic) I thought everything would be fine, but nonetheless I don't get any trainable mails :-( Any suggests? Bill Hely wrote: > > > > Not quite sure what you're getting at Ralf. Forgive me if I'm > stating the obvious, but you won't get any eMails to review > (train on) in the web interface until you do a send/Receive from > your eMail client program. The proxy doesn't retrieve any mail > until the client tells it to. > > Once you have retrieved mail into your client program, that mail > should be available for review/training at: > http://localhost:8880/review > > If I'm way off the mark please explain. > > - Bill H. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spambayes-bounces at python.org >> [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Raffman >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:40 PM >> To: spambayes at python.org >> Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 >> sessions are countedbut no mails >> >> >> >> Hello everybody, >> I've got the following problem: >> >> I installed pop3proxy as service on a Windows 2k machine with >> Exchange. The >> mails are being received via a POP3-connector for every > recipient. >> >> When I log into the webconfiguration it tells me this: >> >> POP3 proxy running on 110, proxying to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:110. >> Active POP3 conversations: 0. >> POP3 conversations this session: 509. >> Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. >> Total emails trained: Spam: 1 Ham: 0 >> More statistics... >> >> As far as I understand this, service and proxy-settings are >> up and working. >> Problem is I don't get any mails to train my engine. >> Can somebody help me with this issue? >> >> Thanks a lot in advance. >> >> Greets, >> Ralf > > -- > We take security very seriously. > All outgoing mail is scanned and > certified Virus Free before transmission. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: > 16/03/2006 > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > http://www.nabble.com/user-images/2557.jpg -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Q%3A-pop3proxy%3A-configuration%3A-pop3-sessions-are-counted-but-no-mails-t1284042.html#a3456931 Sent from the Python - spambayes forum at Nabble.com. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 17 20:39:47 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:39:47 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails In-Reply-To: <3414058.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <3414058.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <64E920F7-36B1-404C-8A0A-D7B321A9E70E@ihug.co.nz> > I installed pop3proxy as service on a Windows 2k machine with > Exchange. The > mails are being received via a POP3-connector for every recipient. > > When I log into the webconfiguration it tells me this: > > POP3 proxy running on 110, proxying to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:110. > Active POP3 conversations: 0. > POP3 conversations this session: 509. > Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. > Total emails trained: Spam: 1 Ham: 0 > More statistics... > > As far as I understand this, service and proxy-settings are up and > working. > Problem is I don't get any mails to train my engine. If you look at a message that goes through the proxy, does it have the SpamBayes headers? In particular, does it have an X-Spambayes- Exception header? If there aren't any SpamBayes headers, could you set [globals] verbose to True, and grab the _pop3proxy.log file that gets created? Either look at it yourself, or you can send it to us AFTER YOU REMOVE YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD from the top. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 17 20:42:40 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:42:40 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04722@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04722@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <2ED5A106-7E9D-4321-A1C2-D96F7AAB744B@ihug.co.nz> > I have read the suggestions about occasional retraining. > Is it possible to automate this? Because I have only found docs that > talks about manually doing that. > > I was thinking about running a cron job that dumps all training data, > except the training data for the last X days. > Is this possible and if yes, how? You can use the sb_mboxtrain.py script (or training via sb_filter). You'll need to have a collection of ham and spam that is is managed by the cron job (i.e. it deletes old files), in one of the formats that sb_mboxtrain understands (e.g. mbox). You can then use sb_mboxtrain to create a fresh database every X days, and mv that to wherever SpamBayes expects to find your database (while SpamBayes isn't running, ideally). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 17 20:43:13 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:43:13 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Wonderful In-Reply-To: <000501c64973$c2974cc0$9a30fea9@MUM> References: <000501c64973$c2974cc0$9a30fea9@MUM> Message-ID: Hi Lisa, > Spambayes is wonderful, and your trouble shooting guide is excellent! Many thanks for your kind words; much appreciated. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 17 20:54:31 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:54:31 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam". In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1667FF93-78D9-453D-B067-5349422A328E@ihug.co.nz> > This probably needs to be targeted to Tony Meyer. I don't find the time to answer spambayes at python.org mail every day any more, sorry. I get to it when I can. > Skip: "spam," in the TO line doesn't work. What's actually placed > in the TO line is "spam;" and you can't filter on the semi-colon. Yes, this is the OE problem I mentioned in the first email, which is fixed in 1.1 by having the address as spam at spambayes.invalid, properly separated by a semi-colon. > Tony: I see what you mean about the bug in 1.0.4 - I tried every > which-way to get it to work, but it seems that you just cannot > change the displayed values that are annotated to the TO or > Subject lines. Any edits to the "notate_to:" lines results in no > annotation at all. The way the notate options work is that they check to see if the header_X_string that is to be added is in the option. For example, if the header_spam_string is "spam" (i.e. the default) and notate_to contains "spam", then spam messages will be notated. So you need to change both the header_spam_string value to "my-own-spam-tag", *and* change notate_to to include "my-own-spam-tag". The catch is that with 1.0.x the notate options will only accept "spam", "ham" and "unsure" as valid values. > Since Outlook Express' filters can't read the > X-Spambayes-Classification value in the eMail header, this > doesn't seem to be solvable at the moment. This is the real problem, of course (the notate options are pretty ugly). However, it seems pretty unlikely that this will ever be solved; I doubt Microsoft has any plans to update OE. > So the important question for me now is: How far off is the > release of 1.1.x, complete with an installer executable? I'm > reluctant to look into the CVS alternative, as I think it > complicates matters too much for my target audience. Every time I give a date I miss it, so I'm reluctant to do one. There really isn't much left to do to do a 1.1a2, and then if people can be convinced to test that, a 1.1b1 could follow fairly quickly afterwards, and (assuming no major problems were found) a final 1.1. This process could easily be done in a month (again assuming no major problems found). However, I really need to get paid work done first, then catch up on releasing the python-dev summaries, then get my thesis complete. So I really don't know when I'll find the time to do it. If people bug me, I'll try as hard as I can to get 1.1a2 out this month. but I'm not promising anything. > For my own information, to go the CVS route, would I have to > install Python and download the 12 files at: > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/spambayes/spambayes/ then > run setup.py, or is it more complex than that? Sorry, never > encountered Python before SpamBayes. 1. Install Python 2. Ideally, install pywin32 (that will take you to a 'this isn't the page' page with a link to the real one, whose URL I can never remember) 3. Install some sort of CVS client, e.g. 4. Do a CVS checkout of the spambayes source, as described on the CVS page at > BTW, is there any documentation available on the legal entries > for bayescustomize.ini? My INI file did not contain some of the > entries that Skip showed. Options.py is fairly readable, and has the possibilities, and you can read that via viewcvs. If you have the source, you can follow the steps in FAQ 4.12: > If no documentation, what does > "include_evidence: True" do? It adds an X-Spambayes-Evidence header that includes the clues (and scores) that were used to classify the message. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 17 20:56:12 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:56:12 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing icon In-Reply-To: <5220AAA9AAB8C44FA718519E06B47E8903D93108@EVS2.univ.dir.wwu.edu> References: <5220AAA9AAB8C44FA718519E06B47E8903D93108@EVS2.univ.dir.wwu.edu> Message-ID: <4BFD3FC0-C4AC-4095-9D2E-72F3BA3FB662@ihug.co.nz> > The delete as spam icon no longer displays on the SpamBayes > toolbar. How can I add it back to the toolbar? Try deleting the toolbar (right-click and choose customize) and then restarting Outlook. SpamBayes will automatically recreate the toolbar. If that doesn't work, try the steps in FAQ 3.15 (different button, but the same idea): =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 17 21:02:57 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:02:57 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py? In-Reply-To: <4416928C.8060005@web.de> References: <44154272.9030503@web.de> <4416928C.8060005@web.de> Message-ID: <46C4A4BD-665D-47A6-9802-1FEDFA880FDE@ihug.co.nz> >>> I am looking for example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py. >> >> I presume you mean sb_xmlrpcserver.py. > > yes - the FAQ spells it to sb_xmlrpcsrv.py, see > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html Thanks; I'll fix that. >>> Is there any sample code available to train a given mail as ham/ >>> spam? >> >> Have you looked at sb_client.py? It classifies rather than >> trains, but >> it's not particularly different. > > Thanks for that hint. Now digged deeper into sb_xmlrpcserver.py and I > see, that the hammie.Hammie.train() method is not available. I think > a patch like this is needed: > > --- sb_xmlrpcserver.py,orig 2006-03-14 10:20:15.000000000 +0100 > +++ sb_xmlrpcserver.py 2006-03-14 10:44:34.629148074 +0100 > @@ -60,6 +60,16 @@ > pass > return xmlrpclib.Binary(hammie.Hammie.filter(self, msg, > *extra)) > > + def train(self, msg, is_spam): > + try: > + msg = msg.data > + except AttributeError: > + pass > + hammie.Hammie.train(self, msg, is_spam) As in the previous email, you'll also need to store() the classifier here, or the changes won't be saved to disk. > + > + # how do I return "nothing"? (in C this would be a void > function) > + return xmlrpclib.Boolean(True) > + > > def usage(code, msg=''): > """Print usage message and sys.exit(code).""" > > A minor issue is, that I dont know, how I could return nothing (None?) > from that xmlrpc call - so I return a boolean True. You either just use "return" by itself (generally what is done) or you can explicitly "return None" if that's what you'd rather do. In this case, you're returning at the end of the method, so you don't have to have a return call at all. For example: + def train(self, msg, is_spam): + try: + msg = msg.data + except AttributeError: + pass + hammie.Hammie.train(self, msg, is_spam) + hammie.Hammie.store() Would be all that is needed. > Would such a patch be accepted? Yes. I'll try and find time to check this in. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From j.beyer at web.de Fri Mar 17 21:48:49 2006 From: j.beyer at web.de (Joerg Beyer) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:48:49 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py? In-Reply-To: <46C4A4BD-665D-47A6-9802-1FEDFA880FDE@ihug.co.nz> References: <44154272.9030503@web.de> <4416928C.8060005@web.de> <46C4A4BD-665D-47A6-9802-1FEDFA880FDE@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <441B20B1.6030104@web.de> Tony Meyer wrote: >>>> I am looking for example usage of sb_xmlrpcsrv.py. >>> >>> >>> I presume you mean sb_xmlrpcserver.py. >> >> >> yes - the FAQ spells it to sb_xmlrpcsrv.py, see >> http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html > > > Thanks; I'll fix that. > >>>> Is there any sample code available to train a given mail as ham/ spam? >>> >>> >>> Have you looked at sb_client.py? It classifies rather than trains, >>> but >>> it's not particularly different. >> >> >> Thanks for that hint. Now digged deeper into sb_xmlrpcserver.py and I >> see, that the hammie.Hammie.train() method is not available. I think >> a patch like this is needed: >> >> --- sb_xmlrpcserver.py,orig 2006-03-14 10:20:15.000000000 +0100 >> +++ sb_xmlrpcserver.py 2006-03-14 10:44:34.629148074 +0100 >> @@ -60,6 +60,16 @@ >> pass >> return xmlrpclib.Binary(hammie.Hammie.filter(self, msg, >> *extra)) >> >> + def train(self, msg, is_spam): >> + try: >> + msg = msg.data >> + except AttributeError: >> + pass >> + hammie.Hammie.train(self, msg, is_spam) > > > As in the previous email, you'll also need to store() the classifier > here, or the changes won't be saved to disk. > >> + >> + # how do I return "nothing"? (in C this would be a void >> function) >> + return xmlrpclib.Boolean(True) >> + >> >> def usage(code, msg=''): >> """Print usage message and sys.exit(code).""" >> >> A minor issue is, that I dont know, how I could return nothing (None?) >> from that xmlrpc call - so I return a boolean True. > > > You either just use "return" by itself (generally what is done) or you > can explicitly "return None" if that's what you'd rather do. In this > case, you're returning at the end of the method, so you don't have to > have a return call at all. For example: > > + def train(self, msg, is_spam): > + try: > + msg = msg.data > + except AttributeError: > + pass > + hammie.Hammie.train(self, msg, is_spam) > + hammie.Hammie.store() I get this error message: (on the xmlrpc client side). so I changed the suggested store call to: hammie.Hammie.store(self) is that right? then I got this error message: I had to put in the return again: return xmlrpclib.Boolean(True) with the hammie.Hammie.store(self) call the data is written back to disk and the feedback to spambayes via an imap client (as I described in another thread) works. > > Would be all that is needed. > >> Would such a patch be accepted? > > > Yes. I'll try and find time to check this in. thanks for that. > =Tony.Meyer > thank for you help joerg From j.beyer at web.de Sat Mar 18 10:59:39 2006 From: j.beyer at web.de (Joerg Beyer) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:59:39 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_xmlrpcserver.py keeps storage files open In-Reply-To: <09816029-CD7B-41A4-8DBC-40FA93F76AB7@ihug.co.nz> References: <4416C37F.3050707@web.de> <09816029-CD7B-41A4-8DBC-40FA93F76AB7@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <441BDA0B.4080605@web.de> Tony Meyer wrote: >> I try to train spambayes from a script. This script detects when I move >> a mail on my imap account (from the inbox) to other imap folder. If this >> folder is the spam folder, then I want to train spambayes that mail as >> spam. If the folder is a usual storage folder (like "family" for mails >> from the family), then train spambayes this message as ham. > > > Could you not use sb_imapfilter to do this? I think the differnce is small: if I move a mail from the inbox to either a hamor spam folder, then the training is implicit: I have to do no other action, because the (cron job) script detects that a mail was moved and classified as ham or spam and trains spambayes. Is that possible with sb_imapfilter? > >> My mail filtering procmail pipes the mails through a sb_filter.py >> process. Do I need to modify the xmlrpc server to write the trainings >> data back? > > > Add "Hammie.hammie.store()" to the train() code you added. If you want > it closed, then you'll also need "Hammie.hammie.close()", but then you > won't be able to do any more training with it. I have done that and it seems to work. Thanks for the hint. Joerg From chrisb50 at optusnet.com.au Sun Mar 19 04:18:53 2006 From: chrisb50 at optusnet.com.au (Chris Bracken) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:18:53 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] All just too complicated Message-ID: <000801c64b03$da27e2f0$98c2ecdc@athlon> I've downloaded and installed the program. I've followed trying to set it up for Outlook Express following the instructions in FAQ. The program is switched on according to the envelope bottom RHS. And nothing happens. Home page just reads 'No messages'. Reading FAQs doesn't help much, as they are pitched at people far more computer literate than I am. Can you help with a 'Dummies' guide or should I just uninstall? Chris Chris Bracken PO Box 244 Mullumbimby NSW 2482 PH: (02)6684 0042 Email: chrisb50 at optusnet.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060319/bd5489e5/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 19 07:08:50 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:08:50 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] All just too complicated In-Reply-To: <000801c64b03$da27e2f0$98c2ecdc@athlon> References: <000801c64b03$da27e2f0$98c2ecdc@athlon> Message-ID: > I've followed trying to set it up for Outlook Express following the > instructions in FAQ. The program is switched on according to the > envelope bottom RHS. And nothing happens. Home page just reads 'No > messages'. So you followed all the steps in FAQ 4.21? Did anything go wrong? Did you skip any steps? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From web_use_1 at roemling.org Sun Mar 19 16:56:38 2006 From: web_use_1 at roemling.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ralf_R=F6mling?=) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:56:38 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails In-Reply-To: <64E920F7-36B1-404C-8A0A-D7B321A9E70E@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <001b01c64b6d$b8faa3f0$6400a8c0@daddeldu> Hi Tony, thanks for your reply. Can you maybe tell me where these headers in outlook-mails could be found? If it's under 'right-click > options' then no there aren't any. I'll be out of office till Wednesday and will then be able to check your suggestion with the verbose log. Perhaps this will shed some light. Nice week 'til then, Ralf -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Gesendet: Freitag, 17. M?rz 2006 20:40 An: Raffman Cc: spambayes at python.org Betreff: Re: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails > I installed pop3proxy as service on a Windows 2k machine with > Exchange. The mails are being received via a POP3-connector for every > recipient. > > When I log into the webconfiguration it tells me this: > > POP3 proxy running on 110, proxying to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:110. > Active POP3 conversations: 0. > POP3 conversations this session: 509. > Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. > Total emails trained: Spam: 1 Ham: 0 > More statistics... > > As far as I understand this, service and proxy-settings are up and > working. > Problem is I don't get any mails to train my engine. If you look at a message that goes through the proxy, does it have the SpamBayes headers? In particular, does it have an X-Spambayes- Exception header? If there aren't any SpamBayes headers, could you set [globals] verbose to True, and grab the _pop3proxy.log file that gets created? Either look at it yourself, or you can send it to us AFTER YOU REMOVE YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD from the top. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 20 22:27:30 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:27:30 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails In-Reply-To: <001b01c64b6d$b8faa3f0$6400a8c0@daddeldu> References: <001b01c64b6d$b8faa3f0$6400a8c0@daddeldu> Message-ID: >> If you look at a message that goes through the proxy, does it have >> the >> SpamBayes headers? In particular, does it have an X-Spambayes- >> Exception >> header? >> >> If there aren't any SpamBayes headers, could you set [globals] >> verbose to True, and grab the _pop3proxy.log file that gets created? >> Either look at it yourself, or you can send it to us AFTER YOU >> REMOVE YOUR >> USERNAME AND PASSWORD from the top. > > Can you maybe tell me where these headers in outlook-mails could be > found? > If it's under 'right-click > options' then no there aren't any. Why are you using the POP3 proxy with Outlook? The Outlook plug-is *much* simpler to install and use. To view the headers for a message, you need to open the message (i.e. you can't do this in the preview pane), then choose "Options" from the "View" menu. At the bottom of the dialog that opens is a section called "Internet Headers". =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From totomd at web.de Tue Mar 21 22:01:51 2006 From: totomd at web.de (totomd at web.de) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:01:51 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion for the faq - install (for example with Eudora) Message-ID: Hello, i suggest to add to the faq entry "2.4 How do I configure Eudora for use with SpamBayes?" and similar that the SpamBayes server have to be stoped and then restarted after it has been configurated (after point 3) otherwise it doesn't take the changes into account. Apart that point the indications are pretty good it could be better referenced, whilst it is not obvious that that information can be found in the faq. It would be benefic to have a special entry "Installation" on the web site, with a link to the right faq entry. Regards, de Borman From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Wed Mar 22 00:14:29 2006 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:14:29 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion for the faq - install (for example withEudora) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't use Eudora but I may have clients who do. So as a matter of interest, is the SpamBayes installation for Eudora any different to the installation for Outlook Express? Are there Eudora-specific things that have to be taken into account? Obviously the precise means of assigning "localhost" as the POP3 server will differ for all eMail clients. TIA - Bill H. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of totomd at web.de > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:02 AM > To: SpamBayes Mailing List > Cc: totomd at web.de > Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion for the faq - install (for > example withEudora) > > > Hello, > > i suggest to add to the faq entry > "2.4 How do I configure Eudora for use with > SpamBayes?" > and similar that the SpamBayes server have to be stoped and then > restarted after it has been configurated (after point 3) otherwise it > doesn't take the changes into account. > Apart that point the indications are pretty good it could be better > referenced, whilst it is not obvious that that information can be > found in the faq. It would be benefic to have a special entry > "Installation" on the web site, with a link to the right faq entry. > > Regards, > > de Borman > -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is scanned and certified Virus Free before transmission. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 21/03/2006 From liuxiang at gamebox.net Wed Mar 22 09:48:11 2006 From: liuxiang at gamebox.net (xliu) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:48:11 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Does spambayes pop3 proxy have ssl enable option? Message-ID: <002901c64d8d$74ea2fb0$526746da@IBM57ECC5929E9> From liuxiang at gamebox.net Wed Mar 22 15:43:43 2006 From: liuxiang at gamebox.net (xliu) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:43:43 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] How can I retrain my mis-trained mails Message-ID: <002f01c64dbf$09a0e730$526746da@IBM57ECC5929E9> quote from advanced configuration ================================= Train when filtering: Train when filtering? After filtering a message, hammie can then train itself on the judgement (ham or spam). This can speed things up with a procmail-based solution. If you do enable this, please make sure to retrain any mistakes. Otherwise, your word database will slowly become useless. my question =========== If such mistakes have happened, is there any way to retrain these mis-trained emails. I am using the pop3 proxy, but in the web interface, it can only display the untrained messages. Once a message was classified, it will disappear in the untrained msg-list. From fdejaigher at freesurf.fr Thu Mar 23 00:32:48 2006 From: fdejaigher at freesurf.fr (Fabrice) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:32:48 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <20060322233248.809AC9A65B@smtp1-g19.free.fr> I'm using Spambayes and Outlook, and i wonder if there's a shortcut to mark a message as spam (e.g. J with Thunderbird) Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/288 - Release Date: 22/03/2006 From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Thu Mar 23 03:57:09 2006 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:57:09 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam". In-Reply-To: <1667FF93-78D9-453D-B067-5349422A328E@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: OK, I've picked up on Tony's suggestion and installed proxy version 1.1a1 for Outlook Express. The new annotations for the TO line do solve the problem I had with 1.0.4 when the domain name contains the word "spam". I will continue testing and report anything I find. However, I am having difficulty getting the proxy server to classify anything as "unsure". It seems that any messages that aren't obviously spam are, by default, classified as "ham", not as "unsure". I am doing my testing by forwarding old and sending new mail to an account in Outlook Express from different eMail accounts using Outlook on the same PC. Any ideas? TIA - Bill H. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 5:55 AM > To: bill.hely at helyholdings.com > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam". > Importance: High > > > > > This probably needs to be targeted to Tony Meyer. > > I don't find the time to answer spambayes at python.org mail every day > any more, sorry. I get to it when I can. > > > Skip: "spam," in the TO line doesn't work. What's actually placed > > in the TO line is "spam;" and you can't filter on the semi-colon. > > Yes, this is the OE problem I mentioned in the first email, which is > fixed in 1.1 by having the address as spam at spambayes.invalid, > properly separated by a semi-colon. > > > Tony: I see what you mean about the bug in 1.0.4 - I tried every > > which-way to get it to work, but it seems that you just cannot > > change the displayed values that are annotated to the TO or > > Subject lines. Any edits to the "notate_to:" lines results in no > > annotation at all. > > The way the notate options work is that they check to see if the > header_X_string that is to be added is in the option. For example, > if the header_spam_string is "spam" (i.e. the default) and notate_to > contains "spam", then spam messages will be notated. So you need to > change both the header_spam_string value to "my-own-spam-tag", *and* > change notate_to to include "my-own-spam-tag". The catch is that > with 1.0.x the notate options will only accept "spam", "ham" and > "unsure" as valid values. > > > Since Outlook Express' filters can't read the > > X-Spambayes-Classification value in the eMail header, this > > doesn't seem to be solvable at the moment. > > This is the real problem, of course (the notate options are pretty > ugly). However, it seems pretty unlikely that this will ever be > solved; I doubt Microsoft has any plans to update OE. > > > So the important question for me now is: How far off is the > > release of 1.1.x, complete with an installer executable? I'm > > reluctant to look into the CVS alternative, as I think it > > complicates matters too much for my target audience. > > Every time I give a date I miss it, so I'm reluctant to do one. > There really isn't much left to do to do a 1.1a2, and then if people > can be convinced to test that, a 1.1b1 could follow fairly quickly > afterwards, and (assuming no major problems were found) a > final 1.1. > This process could easily be done in a month (again assuming > no major > problems found). > > However, I really need to get paid work done first, then catch up on > releasing the python-dev summaries, then get my thesis complete. So > I really don't know when I'll find the time to do it. If people bug > me, I'll try as hard as I can to get 1.1a2 out this month. but I'm > not promising anything. > > > For my own information, to go the CVS route, would I have to > > install Python and download the 12 files at: > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/spambayes/spambayes/ then > > run setup.py, or is it more complex than that? Sorry, never > > encountered Python before SpamBayes. > > 1. Install Python > > 2. Ideally, install pywin32 (that will take > you to a 'this isn't the page' page with a link to the real one, > whose URL I can never remember) > > 3. Install some sort of CVS client, e.g. > > 4. Do a CVS checkout of the spambayes source, as described on the > CVS page at > > > BTW, is there any documentation available on the legal entries > > for bayescustomize.ini? My INI file did not contain some of the > > entries that Skip showed. > > Options.py is fairly readable, and has the possibilities, and > you can > read that via viewcvs. If you have the source, you can follow the > steps in FAQ 4.12: > > but-what-options-do-i-need-to-set> > > > If no documentation, what does > > "include_evidence: True" do? > > It adds an X-Spambayes-Evidence header that includes the clues (and > scores) that were used to classify the message. > > =Tony.Meyer -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is scanned and certified Virus Free before transmission. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/288 - Release Date: 22/03/2006 From michael.biven at fmsm.com Thu Mar 23 18:12:15 2006 From: michael.biven at fmsm.com (Michael Biven) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:12:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] script to uninstall the Outlook plugin? Message-ID: <18907F6C5DC0104EB61C2A06B3D026391396EA@lex-exchbe-1.FMSM.local> Hello, after looking through the FAQ and a few searches on Google I haven't been able to find an example of a script to uninstall the Outlook plug-in completlely. I understand there is an bug with the -unregister parameter so I'm looking for a script that would uninstall the plugin, remove the personal setup files and remove the toolbar from Outlook. Thanks, Michael B. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060323/6230e62a/attachment.htm From web_use_1 at roemling.org Thu Mar 23 20:41:55 2006 From: web_use_1 at roemling.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ralf_R=F6mling?=) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:41:55 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c5f065$f3297230$6400a8c0@daddeldu> Hi Tony, umm, thought I mentioned that earlier... I'm trying to run it in conjunciton with my exchange-server2k whose recipients connect via POP3-connectors to the mailprovider. Regarding the log-file I've run into another question: I can't find the config-file in which [globals] has to be set. Can you tell me which one's the one to be edited? Thanks again. Ralf -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Gesendet: Montag, 20. M?rz 2006 22:28 An: Ralf R?mling Cc: spambayes at python.org Betreff: Re: AW: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails >> If you look at a message that goes through the proxy, does it have >> the SpamBayes headers? In particular, does it have an X-Spambayes- >> Exception header? >> >> If there aren't any SpamBayes headers, could you set [globals] >> verbose to True, and grab the _pop3proxy.log file that gets created? >> Either look at it yourself, or you can send it to us AFTER YOU REMOVE >> YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD from the top. > > Can you maybe tell me where these headers in outlook-mails could be > found? > If it's under 'right-click > options' then no there aren't any. Why are you using the POP3 proxy with Outlook? The Outlook plug-is *much* simpler to install and use. To view the headers for a message, you need to open the message (i.e. you can't do this in the preview pane), then choose "Options" from the "View" menu. At the bottom of the dialog that opens is a section called "Internet Headers". =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From web_use_1 at roemling.org Thu Mar 23 20:43:36 2006 From: web_use_1 at roemling.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ralf_R=F6mling?=) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:43:36 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c64eb2$136ddc70$6400a8c0@daddeldu> Hi Tony, umm, thought I mentioned that earlier... I'm trying to run it in conjunciton with my exchange-server2k whose recipients connect via POP3-connectors to the mailprovider. Regarding the log-file I've run into another question: I can't find the config-file in which [globals] has to be set. Can you tell me which one's the one to be edited? Thanks again. Ralf -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Gesendet: Montag, 20. M?rz 2006 22:28 An: Ralf R?mling Cc: spambayes at python.org Betreff: Re: AW: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails >> If you look at a message that goes through the proxy, does it have >> the SpamBayes headers? In particular, does it have an X-Spambayes- >> Exception header? >> >> If there aren't any SpamBayes headers, could you set [globals] >> verbose to True, and grab the _pop3proxy.log file that gets created? >> Either look at it yourself, or you can send it to us AFTER YOU REMOVE >> YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD from the top. > > Can you maybe tell me where these headers in outlook-mails could be > found? > If it's under 'right-click > options' then no there aren't any. Why are you using the POP3 proxy with Outlook? The Outlook plug-is *much* simpler to install and use. To view the headers for a message, you need to open the message (i.e. you can't do this in the preview pane), then choose "Options" from the "View" menu. At the bottom of the dialog that opens is a section called "Internet Headers". =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From gaylyn at bigpond.com Fri Mar 24 00:19:11 2006 From: gaylyn at bigpond.com (Gay Lyndon) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:19:11 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: <000001c64ed0$31b557d0$f100a8c0@ACERGL> www.professionalsburnie.com.au Hi, Having a problem with spambayes re configuration, said I should run spambayes manager. How do I do that? 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Miller) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:50:38 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] sending mail Message-ID: <001201c6500a$b7d67ca0$66b4a8c0@cgmain> We have a 3rd party software that sends emails through an outlook mail box, the problem is that when it send the email comes into this accounts inbox and then you have to open and send it. This started happening after installing spambayes. Is there an option I missed for sending? Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060325/28fdd992/attachment.html From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Sun Mar 26 03:18:39 2006 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:18:39 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes In-Reply-To: <000001c64ed0$31b557d0$f100a8c0@ACERGL> Message-ID: Hi Gay. After installing the SpamBayes plug-in into Outlook you should have a new toolbar with the options "Delete as spam" and "SpamBayes". 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I suggest you use Google to research this product before trying to resurrect it. - Bill H. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of FRANK OCHS Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 1:53 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Error-Guard Support Request I think My grandson delete my program for erroeguard -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is scanned and certified Virus Free before transmission. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: 24/03/2006 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Miller Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:51 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] sending mail We have a 3rd party software that sends emails through an outlook mail box, the problem is that when it send the email comes into this accounts inbox and then you have to open and send it. This started happening after installing spambayes. Is there an option I missed for sending? Thank you. -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is scanned and certified Virus Free before transmission. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: 24/03/2006 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060326/e764940e/attachment.html From yitz13 at gmail.com Sun Mar 26 08:19:10 2006 From: yitz13 at gmail.com (yitzhak) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 08:19:10 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes doesn't seem to save any messages Message-ID: <57a7da290603252219o567b3bbbh161ec5bfc80fbaf4@mail.gmail.com> I installed Spambayes 1.04 (POP3 binary version) on my computer (Windows XP Home SP2) last week. I have gone in to it periodicly in order to train it( I use outlook express) but it always says it has no messages. Yet when I click "Send/Recive" in Outlook Express , It finds 12 new messages!!! Also, whenever I go into the web interface I see: POP3 proxy running on *110*, proxying to ****.********.***:110*. Active POP3 conversations: *0*. POP3 conversations this session: *0*. Emails classified this session: *0* spam, *0* ham, *0* unsure. Total emails trained: Spam: *89* Ham: *93 *But all the emails trained have been emails in a mailbox which I uploaded to Spambayes to train on! I have gone over the instructions and troubleshooting, but it didn't help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060326/f3564987/attachment.htm From gark1 at sympatico.ca Sun Mar 26 20:51:34 2006 From: gark1 at sympatico.ca (Kieth Gark) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:51:34 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Disapeared heading/Folder Message-ID: I have installed the latest version , 1.0.4 , in my system , Windows XP , and it was working fine . It appeared to be learning and I checked all the messages under "Spam " and " Suspected Spam " All of a sudden these two folders disappeared but the filtering continued . I removed , uninstalled ,the program and reinstalled but the folders do not come back and the program keeps removing suspects . I have read the" Troubleshooting guide " but due to inexperiance do not understand most of it . I like the program and what it was evolving into but need to check as it was still removing the odd wrong choice . Can you help in a way that I can understand as I want to use this . Thanks , Kieth Gark , gark1 at sympatico.ca . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060326/d2ac8a9a/attachment.html From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Sun Mar 26 22:37:10 2006 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:37:10 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Unique text = ham? Message-ID: <4426FB76.80101@cubiclesoft.com> I need a way to tell SpamBayes to ignore classifying e-mails that contain a specific sequence of characters even if it would have classified the e-mail as spam. How do I go about accomplishing this task with the POP3 Proxy SpamBayes server? I can't seem to locate an option to do this - perhaps I missed it? This feature is a "stupid" feature, but will keep the SpamBayes database lean-and-mean and a fair balance between ham and spam for training. A 20:1 ham to spam ratio instead of 1000:1. I can't have it classifying these critical e-mails at all. I want them all even if they ARE spam. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 Safe C++ Design Principles (First Edition) Learn how to write memory leak-free, secure, portable, and user-friendly software. Learn more and view a sample chapter: http://www.CubicleSoft.com/SafeCPPDesign/ From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Mon Mar 27 03:50:17 2006 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:50:17 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Unique text = ham? In-Reply-To: <4427180E.9000505@amedee.be> References: <4426FB76.80101@cubiclesoft.com> <4427180E.9000505@amedee.be> Message-ID: <442744D9.3070601@cubiclesoft.com> Amedee Van Gasse wrote: > Thomas Hruska wrote: >> I need a way to tell SpamBayes to ignore classifying e-mails that >> contain a specific sequence of characters even if it would have >> classified the e-mail as spam. How do I go about accomplishing this >> task with the POP3 Proxy SpamBayes server? I can't seem to locate an >> option to do this - perhaps I missed it? This feature is a "stupid" >> feature, but will keep the SpamBayes database lean-and-mean and a fair >> balance between ham and spam for training. A 20:1 ham to spam ratio >> instead of 1000:1. I can't have it classifying these critical e-mails >> at all. I want them all even if they ARE spam. > > I think, if you know the mathematical theory behind spambayes, if it is > a unique sequence of characters, and that unique sequence of characters > will never appear in spam, it's just the law of large numbers that applies. > So, if you keep on telling that this specific kind of email is ham, > after just a few mails sb will learn. Stupid large numbers always beat > smart and stupid features. > > But I don't know how the pop3 proxy implementation works. > At work I use the Oulook plugin, and at home I use the procmail filter. > (I mainly use Linux and try to avoid Windows if I can) > Except I want ANY message that uses the sequence of characters, _INCLUDING_ spam. The unique sequence of characters _WILL_ appear in spam, but I still want those messages anyway. I can't have even the _slightest_ possibility that SpamBayes will flag those messages as spam. I realize that wanting spam with an anti-spam tool seems counter-intuitive, but I have my reasons for needing this. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 Safe C++ Design Principles (First Edition) Learn how to write memory leak-free, secure, portable, and user-friendly software. Learn more and view a sample chapter: http://www.CubicleSoft.com/SafeCPPDesign/ From tim at aterraform.com Mon Mar 27 04:09:57 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:09:57 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Unique text = ham? In-Reply-To: <442744D9.3070601@cubiclesoft.com> References: <4426FB76.80101@cubiclesoft.com> <4427180E.9000505@amedee.be> <442744D9.3070601@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: <44274975.8050501@aterraform.com> The pop3proxy uses the same filtering as all of the other spambayes interfaces. There is no difference there. There is no function at this point to always flag a unique sequence of characters as non-spam. Presuming that the unique sequence of characters occurs only in ham for you, and you train enough of them, then spambayes will eventually get it right. I might suggest, however, that you implement a rule in your mailer that looks for that sequence and simply files it off to a folder before the rule that moves flagged spam gets ahold of it. That way, whether or not spambayes has flagged it as spam is of no consequence. Generally speaking, spambayes flags mail as likely spam or not, but it's up to your mailer to do something with that information. If you're using outlook, then the spambayes plugin is a bit more proactive than that, but that's the only exception. Thomas Hruska wrote: >Amedee Van Gasse wrote: > > >>Thomas Hruska wrote: >> >> >>>I need a way to tell SpamBayes to ignore classifying e-mails that >>>contain a specific sequence of characters even if it would have >>>classified the e-mail as spam. How do I go about accomplishing this >>>task with the POP3 Proxy SpamBayes server? I can't seem to locate an >>>option to do this - perhaps I missed it? This feature is a "stupid" >>>feature, but will keep the SpamBayes database lean-and-mean and a fair >>>balance between ham and spam for training. A 20:1 ham to spam ratio >>>instead of 1000:1. I can't have it classifying these critical e-mails >>>at all. I want them all even if they ARE spam. >>> >>> >>I think, if you know the mathematical theory behind spambayes, if it is >>a unique sequence of characters, and that unique sequence of characters >>will never appear in spam, it's just the law of large numbers that applies. >>So, if you keep on telling that this specific kind of email is ham, >>after just a few mails sb will learn. Stupid large numbers always beat >>smart and stupid features. >> >>But I don't know how the pop3 proxy implementation works. >>At work I use the Oulook plugin, and at home I use the procmail filter. >>(I mainly use Linux and try to avoid Windows if I can) >> >> >> > >Except I want ANY message that uses the sequence of characters, >_INCLUDING_ spam. The unique sequence of characters _WILL_ appear in >spam, but I still want those messages anyway. I can't have even the >_slightest_ possibility that SpamBayes will flag those messages as spam. > >I realize that wanting spam with an anti-spam tool seems >counter-intuitive, but I have my reasons for needing this. > >-- >Thomas Hruska >CubicleSoft President >Ph: 517-803-4197 > >Safe C++ Design Principles (First Edition) >Learn how to write memory leak-free, secure, >portable, and user-friendly software. > >Learn more and view a sample chapter: >http://www.CubicleSoft.com/SafeCPPDesign/ > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > > > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 27 05:08:00 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:08:00 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Unique text = ham? In-Reply-To: <44274975.8050501@aterraform.com> References: <4426FB76.80101@cubiclesoft.com> <4427180E.9000505@amedee.be> <442744D9.3070601@cubiclesoft.com> <44274975.8050501@aterraform.com> Message-ID: > There is no function at this point to always flag a unique sequence of > characters as non-spam. And I'm pretty sure there are no plans to ever have one (because, as Tim described, you can do this already very simply). > I might suggest, however, > that you implement a rule in your mailer that looks for that sequence > and simply files it off to a folder before the rule that moves flagged > spam gets ahold of it. That way, whether or not spambayes has flagged > it as spam is of no consequence. > > Generally speaking, spambayes flags mail as likely spam or not, but > it's > up to your mailer to do something with that information. If you're > using outlook, then the spambayes plugin is a bit more proactive than > that, but that's the only exception. (I realise this isn't relevant for the OP, but:) You can do this with the Outlook plug-in as well - it fires *after* all the Outlook rules, so if you have a rule to move the message to another folder, which isn't filtered, then SpamBayes will never see the message. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 27 05:19:57 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:19:57 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] The "Save & shutdown" button In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D0243F9-6241-410B-8744-E0351450B05B@ihug.co.nz> > I'm curious as to the reason for having a "Save & shutdown" > button on the Home > Review page of the SpamBayes proxy version. Historical reasons, mostly. > Seems to me that the natural thing for a user to do would be to > click that button before exiting the screen. But of course that > stops the SpamBayes proxy, and I can't think why you would want > to stop it at that point? > > New users are then going to puzzle over the eMail client errors > they get at the next mail download attempt. It doesn't get displayed if running from the binary. This change might only be in 1.1, I don't recall. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 27 05:29:55 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:29:55 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] script to uninstall the Outlook plugin? In-Reply-To: <18907F6C5DC0104EB61C2A06B3D026391396EA@lex-exchbe-1.FMSM.local> References: <18907F6C5DC0104EB61C2A06B3D026391396EA@lex-exchbe-1.FMSM.local> Message-ID: <915321BF-7FEC-42A8-BEE8-FE1FAE11D2D9@ihug.co.nz> > Hello, after looking through the FAQ and a few searches on Google I > haven?t been able to find an example of a script to uninstall the > Outlook plug-in completlely. I understand there is an bug with the ? > unregister parameter so I?m looking for a script that would > uninstall the plugin, remove the personal setup files and remove > the toolbar from Outlook. No, there is not a bug with using --unregister (at least, I have never seen one reported). The correct way to remove the add-in is to either run the register script with --unregister (if running from source) or to use the "Add/Remove Programs" control panel (if running from binary). The 1.1 installer will offer to remove the application data folder on uninstall. For now, you can just delete that folder (i.e. {APP_DATA} \SpamBayes) using whatever deletion method you like. The FAQ explains how to remove the toolbar. If I had time to work on SpamBayes, I'd add removing that to the 1.1 installer, but I don't at the moment, unfortunately. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 27 05:32:20 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:32:20 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails In-Reply-To: <000001c5f065$f3297230$6400a8c0@daddeldu> References: <000001c5f065$f3297230$6400a8c0@daddeldu> Message-ID: >> Why are you using the POP3 proxy with Outlook? The Outlook plug-is >> *much* simpler to install and use. > > umm, thought I mentioned that earlier... I'm trying to run it in > conjunciton > with my exchange-server2k whose recipients connect via POP3- > connectors to > the mailprovider. You may have done, sorry. I answer spambayes at python.org as and when I can, and if the current message doesn't include the information, there's little chance at the moment that I will remember it (or remember names). > Regarding the log-file I've run into another question: I can't find > the > config-file in which [globals] has to be set. Can you tell me which > one's > the one to be edited? It's called bayescustomize.ini. It will probably be in the SpamBayes application data directory. The web interface settings page has the path to it at the top. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 27 05:39:54 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:39:54 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion for the faq - install (for example with Eudora) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3440A01A-74E0-41D2-864E-8F29509AAB29@ihug.co.nz> > i suggest to add to the faq entry > "2.4 How do I configure Eudora for use with > SpamBayes?" I have no personal interest in writing "How to configure X for SpamBayes" for all the mailers that exist. The reason I added the Outlook Express one is that it saved me answering the same question again and again on this list. Outlook Express users generally have very little ability to work with computers, and need as much hand- holding as possible, which is why there are so many questions from them (I'm somewhat astonished that they find SpamBayes at all). (An additional reason is that because Outlook Express is so feature- poor, it requires setting up the 'notate' options, which isn't necessary for pretty much any other mailer, and makes the process more complicated (ironically)). If, however, someone contributed steps for another mailer (e.g. Eudora), then I'd be happy to add them to the FAQ, since that's very little work. Hint, hint, hint. FWIW, if a Eudora user doesn't understand the instructions that come with SpamBayes, then perhaps those instructions need to be clearer? It's much better to have a set of instructions that everyone can use than many separate sets that all have to be individually maintained. > and similar that the SpamBayes server have to be stoped and then > restarted after it has been configurated (after point 3) otherwise it > doesn't take the changes into account. I'm not sure what you mean here. What is point 3? > Apart that point the indications are pretty good it could be better > referenced, I don't understand again, sorry. What document is meant to be better referenced? The FAQ? What should it be referencing? > whilst it is not obvious that that information can be > found in the faq. It would be benefic to have a special entry > "Installation" on the web site, with a link to the right faq entry. Installation is covered in the "readme" that opens when you install SpamBayes. That's much more likely to be found than something online. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 27 05:40:45 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:40:45 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Does spambayes pop3 proxy have ssl enable option? In-Reply-To: <002901c64d8d$74ea2fb0$526746da@IBM57ECC5929E9> References: <002901c64d8d$74ea2fb0$526746da@IBM57ECC5929E9> Message-ID: <8C3D6234-5531-4ED0-9AF5-B4775FF5A50E@ihug.co.nz> Please see the 1.1a1 release notes. (The short answer is yes, the version in CVS does). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 27 05:42:08 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:42:08 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] How can I retrain my mis-trained mails In-Reply-To: <002f01c64dbf$09a0e730$526746da@IBM57ECC5929E9> References: <002f01c64dbf$09a0e730$526746da@IBM57ECC5929E9> Message-ID: > Train when filtering: This option is not used with the POP3 proxy; you should ignore it. > If such mistakes have happened, is there any way to retrain these > mis-trained emails. I am using the pop3 proxy, but in the web > interface, it can only display the untrained messages. Once a > message was classified, it will disappear in the untrained msg-list. Use the "search" box on the main page of the web interface to find the message, and you can correct the training. Note that this will only find messages still in the cache (by default, up to 7 days old). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 27 05:46:23 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:46:23 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Disapeared heading/Folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > It appeared to be learning and I checked all the messages under > "Spam " and " Suspected Spam " All of a sudden these two folders > disappeared but the filtering continued . Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 27 05:52:19 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:52:19 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] assertion error in sb_filter.py In-Reply-To: <44210FC1.5040108@metrak.com> References: <44210FC1.5040108@metrak.com> Message-ID: <19D91B38-1BA4-4F01-84F0-3B91C5AE17D4@ihug.co.nz> [Moved to spambayes at python.org from spambayes-dev] > I have been using spambayes for ages with the pop proxy and have just > migrated my server to IMAP. I am currently running sb_filter from a > procmail script and getting the traceback in the procmail log below. > [...] > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", > line > 308, in probability > assert hamcount <= nham > AssertionError This is saying that you have a token that has been seen in more ham than the total number of ham you have trained (which is impossible, so is really saying that there is a problem with the database). You can export the database to CSV (with sb_dbexpimp.py), manually correct the counts, and then convert back, but you're probably better off just replacing the database with a fresh one. (This shouldn't happen again - if it does, the most likely explanation is that two processes have the database open for writing at the same time, so that would be the first thing to check). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From web_use_1 at roemling.org Mon Mar 27 10:56:04 2006 From: web_use_1 at roemling.org (Raffman) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:56:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions are counted but no mails In-Reply-To: References: <3414058.post@talk.nabble.com> <64E920F7-36B1-404C-8A0A-D7B321A9E70E@ihug.co.nz> <001b01c64b6d$b8faa3f0$6400a8c0@daddeldu> <000001c5f065$f3297230$6400a8c0@daddeldu> Message-ID: <3606179.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi Tony, no prob. I was just wondering :-) I now was able to get the log, but couldn't make anything out of it. It read's like this: +OK <10867.1143448260 at domain.com> QUIT +OK +OK +OK <7191.1143448560 at domain.com> QUIT +OK +OK +OK <8167.1143448920 at domain.com> QUIT +OK +OK +OK <5599.1143449220 at domain.com> QUIT +OK +OK Apparently everything seems ok. Do you have any further ideas? Thanks again and a good week for you, Ralf Tony Meyer-2 wrote: > >>> Why are you using the POP3 proxy with Outlook? The Outlook plug-is >>> *much* simpler to install and use. >> >> umm, thought I mentioned that earlier... I'm trying to run it in >> conjunciton >> with my exchange-server2k whose recipients connect via POP3- >> connectors to >> the mailprovider. > > You may have done, sorry. I answer spambayes at python.org as and when > I can, and if the current message doesn't include the information, > there's little chance at the moment that I will remember it (or > remember names). > >> Regarding the log-file I've run into another question: I can't find >> the >> config-file in which [globals] has to be set. Can you tell me which >> one's >> the one to be edited? > > It's called bayescustomize.ini. It will probably be in the SpamBayes > application data directory. The web interface settings page has the > path to it at the top. > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Q%3A-pop3proxy%3A-configuration%3A-pop3-sessions-are-counted-but-no-mails-t1284042.html#a3606179 Sent from the Python - spambayes forum at Nabble.com. From amedee at amedee.be Mon Mar 27 12:21:25 2006 From: amedee at amedee.be (amedee at amedee.be) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:21:25 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Disapeared heading/Folder Message-ID: <1143454885.29584@localhost.localdomain> Tony Meyer wrote .. > > It appeared to be learning and I checked all the messages under > > "Spam " and " Suspected Spam " All of a sudden these two folders > > disappeared but the filtering continued . > > Please see FAQ 3.13: > > I assume the OP uses the Outlook plugin. It is also possible that he did not remove said folders, but that he only removed the shortcuts to said folders in the outlook shortcut bar. The exact configuration depends on the version of Outlook. -- Amedee From amedee at amedee.be Mon Mar 27 12:31:57 2006 From: amedee at amedee.be (amedee at amedee.be) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:31:57 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion for the faq - install (for example withEudora) Message-ID: <20060327103157.2399E207027@mail.amedee.be> X-Originating-IP: 82.146.101.169 X-Mailer: Usermin 1.260 Message-Id: <1143455517.30161 at localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bound1143455517" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --bound1143455517 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony Meyer wrote .. > > i suggest to add to the faq entry > > "2.4 How do I configure Eudora for use with > > SpamBayes?" > > I have no personal interest in writing "How to configure X for > SpamBayes" for all the mailers that exist. I'm with you there all the way. > The reason I added the > Outlook Express one is that it saved me answering the same question > again and again on this list. Outlook Express users generally have > very little ability to work with computers, and need as much hand- > holding as possible, which is why there are so many questions from > them (I'm somewhat astonished that they find SpamBayes at all). Sad but true. > (An additional reason is that because Outlook Express is so feature- > poor, it requires setting up the 'notate' options, which isn't > necessary for pretty much any other mailer, and makes the process > more complicated (ironically)). Sad but true. > If, however, someone contributed steps for another mailer (e.g. > Eudora), then I'd be happy to add them to the FAQ, since that's very > little work. Hint, hint, hint. I volunteer to review the documentation for setting it up as a procmail filter. If and when I have the time for it (not soon). I'm sure I can find some minor details that could benefit from clearer instructions. Documentation is never finisched, you only stop writing it. :) > > and similar that the SpamBayes server have to be stoped and then > > restarted after it has been configurated (after point 3) otherwise it > > doesn't take the changes into account. > > I'm not sure what you mean here. What is point 3? Not sure here either but it sounds logical to me: restart a service after you changed it's config. The same is valid for most other services that run on $my_server (apache, ssh, shorewall,... you name it) -- Amedee Van Gasse. --bound1143455517-- From cheverisimo at earthlink.net Tue Mar 28 05:00:33 2006 From: cheverisimo at earthlink.net (Frano Violich) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:00:33 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] losing messages Message-ID: <000c01c65213$c8650e00$6501a8c0@kvarch.net> Hello I am wondering if you can help with an email problem. When I download messages to my outlook acct from my earthlink acct the emails I receive disappear as soon as they are 100% downloaded. I've checked my spambayes acct manager but can't find any problem. I spoke with earthlink and they suggested I establish a different outlook profile which I did. I did not add spambayes to this acct and my emails did not disappear. Can you help me retrieve my lost emails? Is it possible that the profile with spambayes is corrupted? Should I reinstall? Thanks, frano -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060327/9be6dae6/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 28 12:11:42 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:11:42 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] losing messages In-Reply-To: <000c01c65213$c8650e00$6501a8c0@kvarch.net> References: <000c01c65213$c8650e00$6501a8c0@kvarch.net> Message-ID: <4B58CA44-4457-4B53-8B58-098206DB600F@ihug.co.nz> > When I download messages to my outlook acct from my earthlink acct > the emails I receive disappear as soon as they are 100% downloaded. Please see FAQ 3.12: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Darryl.Baker at gedas.com Tue Mar 28 16:56:49 2006 From: Darryl.Baker at gedas.com (Baker, Darryl) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:56:49 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Is SpamBayes still alive? Message-ID: <0510F91DF8365A4EB4F60D9DD1DDE44B163B0E@VWOAAHSXH002.vwoa.na.vwg> Gentlefolk, Is this software still being worked on or did the project die? _____________________________________________________________________ Darryl Baker Senior Unix Specialist gedas USA, Inc. Operational Services Business Unit 3800 Hamlin Road Auburn Hills, MI 48326 US phone +1-248-754-5341 fax +1-248-754-6399 Darryl.Baker at gedas.com http://www.gedasusa.com _____________________________________________________________________ From jsp at PKC.com Tue Mar 28 17:31:08 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:31:08 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Is SpamBayes still alive? Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0474B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> It's quite alive. There's little active work being done on it, however, because a) it's quite mature and functional and b) key developers have other priorities at present. Given how well it works, I think that in this case silence is golden. (Except that 1.1 has not been released, but I find 1.1a1 quite stable.) -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Baker, Darryl Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:57 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Is SpamBayes still alive? Gentlefolk, Is this software still being worked on or did the project die? From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 28 17:31:54 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:31:54 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Is SpamBayes still alive? In-Reply-To: <0510F91DF8365A4EB4F60D9DD1DDE44B163B0E@VWOAAHSXH002.vwoa.na.vwg> References: <0510F91DF8365A4EB4F60D9DD1DDE44B163B0E@VWOAAHSXH002.vwoa.na.vwg> Message-ID: <17449.22250.246486.727464@montanaro.dyndns.org> Darryl> Is this software still being worked on or did the project die? Stable code isn't necessarily a bad thing. Not much, if anything, new is going on in the development area. Tony Meyer keeps threatening a new release, but that will not likely have significant algorithmic changes. Lots of people and organizations use it. Skip From Darryl.Baker at gedas.com Tue Mar 28 17:41:00 2006 From: Darryl.Baker at gedas.com (Baker, Darryl) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:41:00 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Is SpamBayes still alive? Message-ID: <0510F91DF8365A4EB4F60D9DD1DDE44B163B10@VWOAAHSXH002.vwoa.na.vwg> If the bad guys weren't changing tactics all the time stable code would be fine. I am getting more and more spam that is not being identified even on the third and fourth sample. I have not done a rigorous investigation but I'm assuming they are fiddling with stuff I can't see unless I look at the raw source. _____________________________________________________________________ Darryl Baker Senior Unix Specialist gedas USA, Inc. Operational Services Business Unit 3800 Hamlin Road Auburn Hills, MI 48326 US phone +1-248-754-5341 fax +1-248-754-6399 Darryl.Baker at gedas.com http://www.gedasusa.com _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:32 AM To: Baker, Darryl Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Is SpamBayes still alive? Darryl> Is this software still being worked on or did the project die? Stable code isn't necessarily a bad thing. Not much, if anything, new is going on in the development area. Tony Meyer keeps threatening a new release, but that will not likely have significant algorithmic changes. Lots of people and organizations use it. Skip From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 28 23:06:44 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:06:44 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Is SpamBayes still alive? In-Reply-To: <0510F91DF8365A4EB4F60D9DD1DDE44B163B10@VWOAAHSXH002.vwoa.na.vwg> References: <0510F91DF8365A4EB4F60D9DD1DDE44B163B10@VWOAAHSXH002.vwoa.na.vwg> Message-ID: <17449.42340.198294.300159@montanaro.dyndns.org> Darryl> If the bad guys weren't changing tactics all the time stable Darryl> code would be fine. I am getting more and more spam that is not Darryl> being identified even on the third and fourth sample. I have not Darryl> done a rigorous investigation but I'm assuming they are fiddling Darryl> with stuff I can't see unless I look at the raw source. What steps have you taken to keep your training database fresh? How many hams and spams are in your database? Are you sure there are no mistakes? In my own training I find that some messages, even though technically correctly classified, foul things up a bit. Consider someone posting a message to a mailing list which has nothing other than the url for a get rich quick website in the message body. If what you generally get from that list is good mail, most/all the header information in this one spam message will go coutner to that. If your training database is small, it may offset the various good header clues enough that the message is classified as unsure. In extreme cases you may get false positives. The primary type of spam I see SB fail to properly classify on a semi-regular basis is spam which embeds a its come-on in a GIF image. It may be that my training database is too small and just doesn't include many samples. My individual word scores are dominated by 0.16 and 0.84 which means I only have a single sample of that word. This is probably a side-effect of my train-to-exhaustion regimen. Skip From mark at buyertours.com Wed Mar 29 17:46:37 2006 From: mark at buyertours.com (Mark Stogsdill) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:46:37 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about Spambayes Message-ID: <000501c65347$f71d3df0$6401a8c0@homemcurtvpc2i> Hi, I use and love your application, but now I cant get it to work. Seems like out look will not start it up anymore. I have check all my settings/reinstalled spambayes etc. The front box (on outlook) is stil there, but it doesn't do anything anymore. Please help and thanks again, Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060329/72865267/attachment.html From bi77p at attglobal.net Thu Mar 30 08:53:27 2006 From: bi77p at attglobal.net (peter) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:53:27 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes died Message-ID: <2006329225327.567703@wine> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060329/20eeea84/attachment.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu Mar 30 12:14:21 2006 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:14:21 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] How spammers avoid Bayesian filters Message-ID: Interesting read, linked from dogg.com http://becomingparanoid.com/2006/03/29/e-mail-security-detecting-spam-ii / -- Amir From amedee at amedee.be Thu Mar 30 14:04:28 2006 From: amedee at amedee.be (amedee at amedee.be) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:04:28 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] How spammers avoid Bayesian filters Message-ID: <1143720268.7631@localhost.localdomain> Katz, Amir wrote .. > Interesting read, linked from dogg.com > > http://becomingparanoid.com/2006/03/29/e-mail-security-detecting-spam-ii > / Excellent. The more spammers try to be filtered out, the more their email will look like either total gibberish (and will miss its goal completely) or will become legitimate email (which will never happen). By the way bayes filtering is even more efficient if most of your email is not in English. For example, my mother language is Dutch, and 90% of my email is in Dutch. So any email with English words in it, is either spam or a message from a mailing list that is already whitelisted trough another procmail rule. Spammers seem to have learned that not everybody speaks English. I have seen Spanish, German, French, Russian and Chinese spam, but I think it'll be a long while before they get to a language with merely 25 million (?) native speakers. -- Amedee Van Gasse From Sharon.Dill.ctr at patrick.af.mil Thu Mar 30 14:46:40 2006 From: Sharon.Dill.ctr at patrick.af.mil (Dill Sharon A Ctr SRS) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:46:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Great! Message-ID: > Thanks so much for creating this great product. I use the full version > of Outlook and it catches all my spam (usually around 150 a day) and > saves me a ton of time. > > > > Question: I occasionally use an alternate program from home to get my > e-mail, Outlook Web Access. Do you have a spam catcher for this > software? Sharon A. Dill, MCSE SRS Technologies IT Systems Manager 853-1130 784-7828 x103 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060330/812349af/attachment.htm From gregory.de.schepper at pandora.be Thu Mar 30 21:26:00 2006 From: gregory.de.schepper at pandora.be (Gregory De Schepper) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:26:00 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 problem Message-ID: Dear developpers, I'm Gregory De Schepper, studied ICT, and I've been using your program for more then a year. But I found a possible solution for the problem that Outlook hangs after the initial installation of Spambayes. Outlook is automatically restarted and the plugin is disabled. I enabled the DEP(Data Execution Prevention - My CPU supports it) option in Windows XP so that all programs and windows services are protected against buffer overflows. If some applications don't support the option then I noted with one application that Windows XP automatically relates this to the DEP option and offers automatically to use an exception for this app. But it didn't report anything when the Spambayes plugin was loaded during boot of Outlook what causes Outlook to crash. I searched all day to make Spambayes work in Outlook 2003 because I like your work. There wasn't any documentation available about this specific problem but I'm sure that DEP can cause this as one of the reasons not yet mentioned on the support pages. You can reproduce this behaviour instantly by enabling DEP for all applications in Windows XP and then load Spambayes for the first time. I hope this helps and please keep me informed about your results. Sorry, if this is not the right place to report a bug, but it can help. Regards, Gregory De Schepper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060330/d89f991e/attachment.html From rwalters at veminc.com Thu Mar 30 22:30:31 2006 From: rwalters at veminc.com (Ron Walters) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:30:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin problems Message-ID: <000001c65438$cabb92b0$677ba8c0@veminc.com> Dear Sirs, Your product is wonderful. I have a few friends who can't seem to get it to work in outlook 2003. They install the file but it doesn't show in outlook. I have tried your troubleshooting tips but none of them seem to work. They are logged on as power users. If I log on as the administrator it works fine. I have tried installing it when logged on as the administrator but it doesn't work. Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks Ron Walters President Croswell Computers N' Vacuums 71 N. Howard Ave. Croswell, MI 48422 (810) 679-4144 www.croswellcomputers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060330/7a47d7bb/attachment.html From bi77p at attglobal.net Fri Mar 31 00:29:41 2006 From: bi77p at attglobal.net (peter) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:29:41 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Re following message: Spambayes died In-Reply-To: <2006329225327.567703@wine> Message-ID: <2006330142941.874618@wine> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060330/178ebb7e/attachment.html From tim at aterraform.com Fri Mar 31 02:57:54 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:57:54 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Great! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <442C7E92.8030606@aterraform.com> Outlook Web Access is built in a completely different way than Outlook, and does not programs like Spambayes any point at which spam filtering could possibly occur. Unfortunately, when you use OWA, you're going to see the spam. Dill Sharon A Ctr SRS wrote: > > > Thanks so much for creating this great product. I use the full version > > of Outlook and it catches all my spam (usually around 150 a day) and > > saves me a ton of time. > > > > > > > > Question: I occasionally use an alternate program from home to get my > > e-mail, Outlook Web Access. Do you have a spam catcher for this > > software? > > > Sharon A. Dill, MCSE > SRS Technologies > IT Systems Manager > 853-1130 > 784-7828 x103 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 > > From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Fri Mar 31 14:27:36 2006 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:27:36 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 problem Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5006259801@SPIKE.city> Yes, several of us have had that experience. DEP definitely breaks Spambayes. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Gregory De Schepper Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:26 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 problem Importance: High Dear developpers, I'm Gregory De Schepper, studied ICT, and I've been using your program for more then a year. But I found a possible solution for the problem that Outlook hangs after the initial installation of Spambayes. Outlook is automatically restarted and the plugin is disabled. I enabled the DEP(Data Execution Prevention - My CPU supports it) option in Windows XP so that all programs and windows services are protected against buffer overflows. If some applications don't support the option then I noted with one application that Windows XP automatically relates this to the DEP option and offers automatically to use an exception for this app. But it didn't report anything when the Spambayes plugin was loaded during boot of Outlook what causes Outlook to crash. I searched all day to make Spambayes work in Outlook 2003 because I like your work. There wasn't any documentation available about this specific problem but I'm sure that DEP can cause this as one of the reasons not yet mentioned on the support pages. You can reproduce this behaviour instantly by enabling DEP for all applications in Windows XP and then load Spambayes for the first time. I hope this helps and please keep me informed about your results. Sorry, if this is not the right place to report a bug, but it can help... Regards, Gregory De Schepper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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