From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sun Jan  1 07:49:51 2006
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 17:49:51 +1100
Subject: [Spambayes] icon in systray not "active"
In-Reply-To: <20051231.121518.3780.0.cwlinhardt@juno.com>
Message-ID: <DAELJHBGPBHPJKEBGGLNKEFIJIAD.mhammond@skippinet.com.au>

> I can't find the pop3proxy program in the start menu.
> Any more hints on what exactly to look for?

In the SpamBayes group in the Start Menu, there should be a "SpamBayes Tray
Icon" entry.

> I notice that the icon in the systray has a red dot
> in a white circle in the lower right corner of the envelope.
> Is this significant?

Nope.

Mark

> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:53:59 +1100 "Mark Hammond"
> <mhammond at skippinet.com.au> writes:
> > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org
> > > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Bill Linhardt
> > > Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2005 9:44 AM
> > > To: tameyer at ihug.co.nz
> > > Cc: spambayes at python.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] icon in systray not "active"
> > >
> > >
> > > The file you requested is attached.  Is this OK?
> > > Thanks
> >
> > The traceback in your log implies that this error may have been as
> > Windows
> > was starting up.  If you explicitly start the pop3proxy program from
> > the
> > start menu, does it work?  If not, can you please try it, then
> > immediately
> > resend your log.  I expect the error in that case would be
> > different.
> >
> > Either way, a google search shows that it is indeed possible for
> > this error
> > to happen as Windows starts.  I've submitted a patch at
> > sourceforge.
> > Hopefully someone will be able to test it and it may make it into a
> > future
> > SpamBayes release.
> > (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=61702&atid=498105)
> >
> > However, if your problem is *not* related to Windows startup, I
> > expect my
> > patch will not help.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > > Bill L.
> > > On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:53:43 +1300 Tony Meyer
> > <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
> > > writes:
> > > > > More importantly, for some reason now when I try to right
> > click
> > > > > the icon in the systray, when the pointer touches the icon,
> > it
> > > > > disappears.  Then I have to go back to the icon on the
> > desktop
> > > > > and replace the icon to the systray.  If I try to move the
> > > > pointer
> > > > > to the icon, it disappears again!
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like SpamBayes is crashing.  Could you get hold of the
> > most
> > > >
> > > > recent log (this will probably be in C:\Documents and Settings\
> > > > {username}\Local Settings\Temp and will be called
> > > > SpambayesServer1.log) and send us a copy?


From anastasiy at paintpla.mass.rbc.ru  Sun Jan  1 15:13:27 2006
From: anastasiy at paintpla.mass.rbc.ru (anastasiy@paintpla.mass.rbc.ru)
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:13:27 +0300
Subject: [Spambayes] Recovery error
In-Reply-To: <4260DC03-1A70-40AB-A4F5-BE685B902D29@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <web-185137996@vox.smtp.ru>

Thank you for your reply, but...I did the training already
several times. It didn't work :((

Thanks,
Anastasy

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:02:34 +1300
  Tony Meyer <tameyer at ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>>  Thank you for the great Spambayes plugin! But sadly, it 
>>sopped  
>>working now :(
>>Every time I try to Recover from Spam it reports a  
>>bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError
>>and it continues reporting it even after retraining and 
>>recovering.
>
>You need to retrain from scratch.  Either delete the 
> default_bayes_database.db and 
>default_message_database.db files from  your data 
>directory, or simply use the "Training" tab in the 
> SpamBayes Manager, ensuring that you tick the "Rebuild 
>entire  database" box.
>
>=Tony.Meyer
>
>-- 
>Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) 
>in your replies
>(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about 
>SpamBayes.
>http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html 
>explains this.
>
>


From cwlinhardt at juno.com  Sun Jan  1 21:34:40 2006
From: cwlinhardt at juno.com (Bill Linhardt)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 15:34:40 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] icon in systray not "active"
Message-ID: <20060101.153440.4008.0.cwlinhardt@juno.com>

When I click on the "SpamBayes Tray Icon" entry in the 
All Programs area, I get the same results as when I double click
on the Icon on the desktop.  An icon is placed in the system tray.
When I move the mouse pointer to the systray icon, it disappears.

Bill L.
 
On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 17:49:51 +1100 "Mark Hammond"
<mhammond at skippinet.com.au> writes:
> > I can't find the pop3proxy program in the start menu.
> > Any more hints on what exactly to look for?
> 
> In the SpamBayes group in the Start Menu, there should be a 
> "SpamBayes Tray
> Icon" entry.
> 
> > I notice that the icon in the systray has a red dot
> > in a white circle in the lower right corner of the envelope.
> > Is this significant?
> 
> Nope.
> 
> Mark
> 
> > On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:53:59 +1100 "Mark Hammond"
> > <mhammond at skippinet.com.au> writes:
> > > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org
> > > > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Bill 
> Linhardt
> > > > Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2005 9:44 AM
> > > > To: tameyer at ihug.co.nz
> > > > Cc: spambayes at python.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] icon in systray not "active"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The file you requested is attached.  Is this OK?
> > > > Thanks
> > >
> > > The traceback in your log implies that this error may have been 
> as
> > > Windows
> > > was starting up.  If you explicitly start the pop3proxy program 
> from
> > > the
> > > start menu, does it work?  If not, can you please try it, then
> > > immediately
> > > resend your log.  I expect the error in that case would be
> > > different.
> > >
> > > Either way, a google search shows that it is indeed possible 
> for
> > > this error
> > > to happen as Windows starts.  I've submitted a patch at
> > > sourceforge.
> > > Hopefully someone will be able to test it and it may make it 
> into a
> > > future
> > > SpamBayes release.
> > > 
> (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=61702&atid=498105)
> > >
> > > However, if your problem is *not* related to Windows startup, I
> > > expect my
> > > patch will not help.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > > Bill L.
> > > > On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:53:43 +1300 Tony Meyer
> > > <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
> > > > writes:
> > > > > > More importantly, for some reason now when I try to right
> > > click
> > > > > > the icon in the systray, when the pointer touches the 
> icon,
> > > it
> > > > > > disappears.  Then I have to go back to the icon on the
> > > desktop
> > > > > > and replace the icon to the systray.  If I try to move 
> the
> > > > > pointer
> > > > > > to the icon, it disappears again!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like SpamBayes is crashing.  Could you get hold of 
> the
> > > most
> > > > >
> > > > > recent log (this will probably be in C:\Documents and 
> Settings\
> > > > > {username}\Local Settings\Temp and will be called
> > > > > SpambayesServer1.log) and send us a copy?
> 
> 
> 

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Mon Jan  2 23:13:19 2006
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:13:19 +1100
Subject: [Spambayes] icon in systray not "active"
In-Reply-To: <20060101.153440.4008.0.cwlinhardt@juno.com>
Message-ID: <DAELJHBGPBHPJKEBGGLNKELKJIAD.mhammond@skippinet.com.au>

By private mail, Bill sent me his log which contains the following
traceback:

Service not available. Using thread.
Loading database...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 556, in ?
  File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 552, in main
  File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 197, in __init__
  File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 431, in Start
  File "sb_server.pyc", line 881, in prepare
  File "spambayes\smtpproxy.pyc", line 516, in LoadServerInfo
  File "sb_server.pyc", line 827, in _addressAndPort
ValueError: invalid literal for int(): SpamBayes.org

I suspect the problem is that the config file is not setup correctly, but
I'm afraid I can't remember the details of exactly where this file is.  It
looks like the 'listen_ports' value in the [pop3proxy] section is invalid,
but hopefully one of the other mailing list members will be able to offer
better advice.

Regards,

Mark.


From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Jan  2 23:52:15 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:52:15 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] icon in systray not "active"
In-Reply-To: <DAELJHBGPBHPJKEBGGLNKELKJIAD.mhammond@skippinet.com.au>
References: <DAELJHBGPBHPJKEBGGLNKELKJIAD.mhammond@skippinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <E69B4A55-4F4B-42C0-8EF3-8306BCA83D58@ihug.co.nz>

> By private mail, Bill sent me his log which contains the following
> traceback:
>
> [...]
> ValueError: invalid literal for int(): SpamBayes.org
>
> I suspect the problem is that the config file is not setup  
> correctly, but
> I'm afraid I can't remember the details of exactly where this file  
> is.  It
> looks like the 'listen_ports' value in the [pop3proxy] section is  
> invalid,
> but hopefully one of the other mailing list members will be able to  
> offer
> better advice.

The config file is in the "Application Data" directory.  I can't  
recall what version of Windows this was, but the most likely place is  
"C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\Spambayes 
\Proxy".  The file is called bayescustomize.ini.

(Bill has almost certainly found this previously, since he must have  
edited the file manually to get the invalid value in there, since the  
GUI won't let you save an invalid value).

The simplest thing to do would be to remove all of the options in the  
[pop3proxy] and [smtpproxy] sections, or simply remove the entire  
file, and then reconfigure via the GUI (which should then be  
accessible, since the tray application should once again start).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan  3 00:00:10 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:00:10 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Question
In-Reply-To: <NAEPJDCDEDDMKAFNBICMEEDJCBAA.kastenholz@charter.net>
References: <NAEPJDCDEDDMKAFNBICMEEDJCBAA.kastenholz@charter.net>
Message-ID: <B758515F-3B44-4C78-B9B9-4BB0C3C69424@ihug.co.nz>

> A couple of days ago, Outlook automatically made a new set of  
> personal folders, probably because my inbox was too full.   
> Spambayes does not recognize these new folders and will revent back  
> to the old ones.

Please see FAQ 3.13:

<http://spambayes.org/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder>

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan  3 00:01:17 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:01:17 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Recovery error
In-Reply-To: <web-185137996@vox.smtp.ru>
References: <web-185137996@vox.smtp.ru>
Message-ID: <5DA1D021-2DF7-4C0D-BB6E-030BDECD7750@ihug.co.nz>

>>>>  Thank you for the great Spambayes plugin! But sadly, it sopped   
>>>> working now :(
>>>> Every time I try to Recover from Spam it reports a   
>>>> bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError
>>>> and it continues reporting it even after retraining and recovering.
>>>
>>> You need to retrain from scratch.  Either delete the  
>>> default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db files  
>>> from  your data directory, or simply use the "Training" tab in  
>>> the SpamBayes Manager, ensuring that you tick the "Rebuild  
>>> entire  database" box.
>
> Thank you for your reply, but...I did the training already
> several times. It didn't work :((

Are you sure you ticked the "Rebuild entire database" box?  If you  
don't do that, the old (broken) database isn't replaced.

If that doesn't work, then manually deleting the files (as above)  
certainly will.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan  3 00:02:58 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:02:58 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and IncrediMail
In-Reply-To: <43B6D72B.000003.23212@POWERSPEC>
References: <43B6D72B.000003.23212@POWERSPEC>
Message-ID: <8B105DA5-139A-4178-9692-2B46D52BD8B0@ihug.co.nz>

> My question:  Is it usable with the program IncrediMail?

If you can configure the POP server that IncrediMail connects to,  
then yes.  If you don't know what that means, take a look at the  
IncrediMail settings, and see if there is one that is the name of  
your mail server (e.g. pop.comcast.net or mail.comcast.net).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan  3 00:04:35 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:04:35 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <000301c60d80$923c2cf0$6401a8c0@ComputerHarry>
References: <000301c60d80$923c2cf0$6401a8c0@ComputerHarry>
Message-ID: <CD4C06D6-B8DF-4A76-80A4-B81E51770625@ihug.co.nz>

> I have installed spaybayes-1.04.exe.
>
> There is nothing in spambayes1.log.
>
> This is what is in outlook_addin.register.exe,log:
>
> "Traceback (most recent call last):   File "addin.py", line 72, in ?
> IOError: [Errno 13] rmission denied:
> 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'"

You need to have permission to write to the temp directory to install  
(and run) SpamBayes.  (Really, you should *always* have permission to  
write to that directory; many programs will try to use it for (not  
surprisingly) temporary storage.  You should stop whatever program is  
restricting access to it from doing so).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan  3 00:05:19 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:05:19 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Junk E-Mail folder disappeared
In-Reply-To: <000001c60d7b$c459b630$1901a8c0@MBK.MBKNY>
References: <000001c60d7b$c459b630$1901a8c0@MBK.MBKNY>
Message-ID: <336DD52B-57B7-43A9-9B61-F4F8F78D8317@ihug.co.nz>

> I don?t know exactly what happened, but this morning I notice that  
> the Junk E-mail folder disappeared completely.  How can I recover  
> this folder so that I can continue to at least see what?s going in  
> there?

Please see FAQ 3.13:

<http://spambayes.org/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder>

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan  3 00:09:16 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:09:16 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] FW: spam bayes won't work
In-Reply-To: <000001c60853$8b0d24c0$0300a8c0@ISABELLA>
References: <000001c60853$8b0d24c0$0300a8c0@ISABELLA>
Message-ID: <0832A827-F788-4195-92F9-398CE350AB89@ihug.co.nz>

>>>> After months of use when I click on Spam Bayes in Outlook 2002,
>>>> nothing happens.  I've tried reinstalling Spam Bayes; I've checked
>>>> to see if it's disabled (it's not).  I've even done a Windows
>>>> system Restore to last week when Spam Bayes was working well.
>>>> Nothing has helped.
>>>
>>> I recreated the toolbat as described in your troubleshooting guide-
>>> that did not solve the problem.  I then tried to remove the file
>>> \Documents and Settings\username\Microsoft\Outlook\outcmd.dat   but
>>> it doesn't exist!
>>
>> Did you replace "username" in that path with your actual username?
>> AFAIK the outcmd.dat file always exists.
>
> I searched my entire computer for both these files (outcmd.dat & the
> SpamBayesLog) and can find neither!

Searched how?  If you were using the Windows search, did you ensure  
that it was searching for all files, and including all locations  
(including hidden ones and system files)?  I believe that by default  
this is not the case.  The simplest way of finding these files is to  
open an Explorer window (Windows-E), show the address/location bar if  
it isn't already (View menu), and type the path into the address/ 
location bar.  That will open up the directory even if it is hidden.

> I RECENTLY GOT A FREE DOWNLOAD OF Mcafee Security from Comcast- 
> could this
> have anything to do with the problem?

Possibly, although it's unlikely.

>> If that doesn't work:  are all three of the SpamBayes buttons non-
>> functional, or just some?  Does SpamBayes still filter?

Could you answer these?

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan  3 00:10:43 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:10:43 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Message filtering problem
In-Reply-To: <MIELLNHHNLNGGECBCCNIIEHEIBAA.peter@zaph.nl>
References: <MIELLNHHNLNGGECBCCNIIEHEIBAA.peter@zaph.nl>
Message-ID: <3C0B0963-B4E5-4C2A-B2CD-3DEBB01202D5@ihug.co.nz>

> first of all my compliments on your overall very reliable spam  
> filter. The only problem I rather regularly encounter is that not  
> all messages are moved correctly. As you can see in the enclosed  
> logfile, the first message 'Re: bitchy villein' is quite correctly  
> classified as spam, but not moved to the Junk EMail folder.

Adjusting the filtering delays might help with this problem  
(SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From anthony at interlink.com.au  Tue Jan  3 05:26:57 2006
From: anthony at interlink.com.au (Anthony Baxter)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:26:57 +1100
Subject: [Spambayes] new Kmail feature
In-Reply-To: <933D09EF-2B3F-45B8-90FC-69CE062806FE@ihug.co.nz>
References: <200511201037.34803.claude_jones@levitjames.com>
	<933D09EF-2B3F-45B8-90FC-69CE062806FE@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <200601031526.59243.anthony@interlink.com.au>

On Thursday 24 November 2005 20:20, Tony Meyer wrote:
> > I'm wondering if this has been implemented in conjunction with
> > the Spambayes
> > team - that's one question.
>
> Not to my knowledge (certainly nothing has been posted on
> spambayes- dev, and I expect if they contacted someone off-list,
> like Tim, that person would have let everyone else know).

I logged it as a KDE feature request, and supplied the details some 
time ago. I posted about it to one of the SB lists.

Anthony
-- 
Anthony Baxter     <anthony at interlink.com.au>
It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

From isadora at comcast.net  Tue Jan  3 06:07:55 2006
From: isadora at comcast.net (Linda Krantz)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:07:55 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] FW:  FW: spam bayes won't work
Message-ID: <000101c61023$a7dce810$0300a8c0@ISABELLA>



-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Krantz [mailto:isadora at comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:04 PM
To: 'spambayes at python.org'
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] FW: spam bayes won't work

I did find the outcmd.dat file in hidden folders and deleted it but
still no luck. The only buttons I have relating to spam bayes is a
frownie face labeled "delete as spam" and the spam bayes manager to the
right of it on the Outlook bar. No, it doesn't filter. Linda Krantz

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] 
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:09 PM
To: Linda Krantz
Cc: spambayes at python.org
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: spam bayes won't work

>>>> After months of use when I click on Spam Bayes in Outlook 2002, 
>>>> nothing happens.  I've tried reinstalling Spam Bayes; I've checked 
>>>> to see if it's disabled (it's not).  I've even done a Windows 
>>>> system Restore to last week when Spam Bayes was working well. 
>>>> Nothing has helped.
>>>
>>> I recreated the toolbat as described in your troubleshooting guide- 
>>> that did not solve the problem.  I then tried to remove the file
>>> \Documents and Settings\username\Microsoft\Outlook\outcmd.dat   but
>>> it doesn't exist!
>>
>> Did you replace "username" in that path with your actual username? 
>> AFAIK the outcmd.dat file always exists.
>
> I searched my entire computer for both these files (outcmd.dat & the
> SpamBayesLog) and can find neither!

Searched how?  If you were using the Windows search, did you ensure  
that it was searching for all files, and including all locations  
(including hidden ones and system files)?  I believe that by default  
this is not the case.  The simplest way of finding these files is to  
open an Explorer window (Windows-E), show the address/location bar if  
it isn't already (View menu), and type the path into the address/ 
location bar.  That will open up the directory even if it is hidden.

> I RECENTLY GOT A FREE DOWNLOAD OF Mcafee Security from Comcast-
> could this
> have anything to do with the problem?

Possibly, although it's unlikely.

>> If that doesn't work:  are all three of the SpamBayes buttons non- 
>> functional, or just some?  Does SpamBayes still filter?

Could you answer these?

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.




From isadora at comcast.net  Tue Jan  3 06:03:37 2006
From: isadora at comcast.net (Linda Krantz)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:03:37 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] FW: spam bayes won't work
In-Reply-To: <0832A827-F788-4195-92F9-398CE350AB89@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <000001c61023$0e808000$0300a8c0@ISABELLA>

I did find the outcmd.dat file in hidden folders and deleted it but
still no luck. The only buttons I have relating to spam bayes is a
frownie face labeled "delete as spam" and the spam bayes manager to the
right of it on the Outlook bar.  Linda Krantz

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] 
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:09 PM
To: Linda Krantz
Cc: spambayes at python.org
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: spam bayes won't work

>>>> After months of use when I click on Spam Bayes in Outlook 2002,
>>>> nothing happens.  I've tried reinstalling Spam Bayes; I've checked
>>>> to see if it's disabled (it's not).  I've even done a Windows
>>>> system Restore to last week when Spam Bayes was working well.
>>>> Nothing has helped.
>>>
>>> I recreated the toolbat as described in your troubleshooting guide-
>>> that did not solve the problem.  I then tried to remove the file
>>> \Documents and Settings\username\Microsoft\Outlook\outcmd.dat   but
>>> it doesn't exist!
>>
>> Did you replace "username" in that path with your actual username?
>> AFAIK the outcmd.dat file always exists.
>
> I searched my entire computer for both these files (outcmd.dat & the
> SpamBayesLog) and can find neither!

Searched how?  If you were using the Windows search, did you ensure  
that it was searching for all files, and including all locations  
(including hidden ones and system files)?  I believe that by default  
this is not the case.  The simplest way of finding these files is to  
open an Explorer window (Windows-E), show the address/location bar if  
it isn't already (View menu), and type the path into the address/ 
location bar.  That will open up the directory even if it is hidden.

> I RECENTLY GOT A FREE DOWNLOAD OF Mcafee Security from Comcast- 
> could this
> have anything to do with the problem?

Possibly, although it's unlikely.

>> If that doesn't work:  are all three of the SpamBayes buttons non-
>> functional, or just some?  Does SpamBayes still filter?

Could you answer these?

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.




From J.G.W.Carpaij at student.tue.nl  Tue Jan  3 09:29:46 2006
From: J.G.W.Carpaij at student.tue.nl (Carpaij, J.G.W.)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:29:46 +0100
Subject: [Spambayes] Problems with Spambayes after installing as outlook
	plug-in
Message-ID: <32F479CD71917240B958683CA6C7E00307319C@studentEX8.campus.tue.nl>

Hi,

After working for a couple of months with Spambayes the program crashed.
It didn't move any mailmessage at all. I uninstalled the program, but
after installing it again, the software doesn't work. Outlook doesn't
have the spambayes bar at the top. How can I fix this problem? 

Kind regards,

Joost Carpaij
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From harry at begier.com  Tue Jan  3 13:59:55 2006
From: harry at begier.com (Harry P Begier Jr)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 07:59:55 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Permission Denied
Message-ID: <000001c61065$9997edd0$6401a8c0@ComputerHarry>

I just installed Spaybayes. This is what is in my
outlook_addin_register.exe.log file:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "addin.py", line 73, in ?
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "addin.py", line 73, in ?
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "addin.py", line 73, in ?
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'

What gives?

Harry P Begier Jr
224 W Willow Grove Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19118-3919
Tel  # (215) 994-1515
Fax # (215) 994-1516
E-mail: harrry at begier.com


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From shawchen at comcast.net  Tue Jan  3 14:45:01 2006
From: shawchen at comcast.net (Shaw T Chen)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:45:01 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] spam not detected
Message-ID: <000601c6106b$e5bef540$8901a8c0@ibma60>

I start to get spams that were not even shown on the "untrained list".  They were put in my inbox as ham, and could not be trained against.
-STC
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From cwlinhardt at juno.com  Tue Jan  3 20:42:18 2006
From: cwlinhardt at juno.com (Bill Linhardt)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 14:42:18 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] icon in systray not "active"
Message-ID: <20060103.144219.1452.0.cwlinhardt@juno.com>

FYI I did not edit the file manually.  I was not aware of the existence
of the
config file until I received this message.  Thank you for calling it to
my 
attention.  As a matter of fact, I was attempting to redo the configure
when I discovered the problem with the disappearing icon in the systray.

I would be happy to do whatever is likely to get me back to the point
where I can at least try to do something to recover.  I am attaching the
file called bayescustomize.ini.  Now that I know about this file, I can
edit it, if that is the correct thing.  Or, remove the entire file, if
that is
likely to allow tray icon to do it's normal function.

Thanks
Bill L.
 
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:52:15 +1300 Tony Meyer <tameyer at ihug.co.nz> writes:
> > By private mail, Bill sent me his log which contains the following
> > traceback:
> >
> > [...]
> > ValueError: invalid literal for int(): SpamBayes.org
> >
> > I suspect the problem is that the config file is not setup  
> > correctly, but
> > I'm afraid I can't remember the details of exactly where this file 
>  
> > is.  It
> > looks like the 'listen_ports' value in the [pop3proxy] section is  
> 
> > invalid,
> > but hopefully one of the other mailing list members will be able 
> to  
> > offer
> > better advice.
> 
> The config file is in the "Application Data" directory.  I can't  
> recall what version of Windows this was, but the most likely place 
> is  
> "C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\Spambayes 
> \Proxy".  The file is called bayescustomize.ini.
> 
> (Bill has almost certainly found this previously, since he must have 
>  
> edited the file manually to get the invalid value in there, since 
> the  
> GUI won't let you save an invalid value).
> 
> The simplest thing to do would be to remove all of the options in 
> the  
> [pop3proxy] and [smtpproxy] sections, or simply remove the entire  
> file, and then reconfigure via the GUI (which should then be  
> accessible, since the tray application should once again start).
> 
> =Tony.Meyer
> 
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your 
> replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about 
> SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains 
> this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From wongml at usfca.edu  Tue Jan  3 20:58:06 2006
From: wongml at usfca.edu (Melvin Wong)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:58:06 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] request for Help
Message-ID: <07BBC86DDB5EED47B871AC6B5A537EE98E3FB2@msmail.ds.usfca.edu>

I love SpamBayes very very much. 

However, after re-installing a system image from my previous machine,
SpamBayes stops working in my new machine's Outlook. I have tried many
things to restore the greatest SpamBayes, but still without success.

1) I tried to re-install the entire Office 2K3 Pro suite, and try to
re-install both the SpamBayes 1.0.4 and 1.1a1 binaries. No success
2) I tried to install the source code version by downloading all 3
required pieces (Python 2,4, pywin32-205.win32-py2.4.exe, and SpamBayes
source code 1.1a1). 
- Copying the source code directory under c:\python24\Lib\site-packages
- Running "c:\python24\python setup.py install" inside the source-code
directory in MS-DOS prompt.
- Spambayes directory is then created under
c:\python24\Lib\site-packages directory.
- Ran "addin.py" under
"C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\spambayes-1.1a1\Outlook2000" in MS-DOS
prompt. 

When I restarted Outlook 2k3, under the COM Add-In manager, I got an
error like the screenshot attached with this email message. In addition,
I tried opening the debugger that comes with pythonwin, but there is no
logs appended when I started Outlook after I ran addin.py . Therefore, I
could not provide any logs for you all to further troubleshoot - Sorry
about that. Or, feel free to let me know if I should do it in a
different way.

Any help will be very appreciated.

Thanks,
Melvin
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From mrgosborne at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  4 19:20:34 2006
From: mrgosborne at yahoo.com (George Osborne)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:20:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spambayes] Viruses in attachments
Message-ID: <20060104182034.61635.qmail@web52403.mail.yahoo.com>

I seem to be having a problem with SpamBayes that  I haven't found noted elsewhere.  While scanning through email, it  opens items with attachments, activating the virus and prompting my  antivirus to alert me to the virus -- but not before an email has gone  outbound.  So I'm sending out these viral emails & getting  messages back from servers complaining about it.  I can't find  anything in SpamBayes' config pages, or Help.  Is there a way to  stop it from opening emails with attachments? 

		
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From jsp at PKC.com  Wed Jan  4 20:55:16 2006
From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:55:16 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Viruses in attachments
Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D045D0@PKCVT01.pkc.com>

I doubt this is SpamBayes' doing. Does the behavior continue if you
disable SpamBayes?


________________________________

	From: spambayes-bounces at python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of George Osborne
	Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:21 PM
	To: spambayes at python.org
	Subject: [Spambayes] Viruses in attachments
	
	
	I seem to be having a problem with SpamBayes that I haven't
found noted elsewhere.  While scanning through email, it opens items
with attachments, activating the virus and prompting my antivirus to
alert me to the virus -- but not before an email has gone outbound.  So
I'm sending out these viral emails & getting messages back from servers
complaining about it.  I can't find anything in SpamBayes' config pages,
or Help.  Is there a way to stop it from opening emails with
attachments? 

	
________________________________

	Yahoo! DSL
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From manuel+spambayes at af0.net  Thu Jan  5 05:07:06 2006
From: manuel+spambayes at af0.net (manuel+spambayes at af0.net)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:07:06 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Modified Classifier storage
Message-ID: <F6A19111-841F-4C5D-8E49-71D185F599DD@af0.net>

Hi,

I'm looking to store a bunch of storage.Classifiers in a database  
indexed by user (in other words, so that each user gets his own  
classifier). It seems I could do this easily enough by modifying  
mySQLClassifier or similar (though I'd like to use SQLObject so I'm  
not tied to a specific database server), but before I go and mess  
with that, I was wondering if there's an easier way. For example, I  
could probably create a classifier.Classifier instead, and just  
pickle it to and from a database record (one per user), but without  
looking closer at the code I'm unclear if that's completely batty or  
not.

I figured I'll go ahead and modify the SQL Classifiers to just add to  
the record a "user" field, and select the records specific to that  
user (seems  to be the least-likely-to-suck-for-performance option),  
but if anyone has any comments on this, I'd appreciate the input.

By the way, before people tell me stuff like "just run SpamBayes  
separately for each user," I'm using SpamBayes's Bayesian  
classification system for something entirely different, just because  
it seemed among those that suited my needs best. So that suggestion  
isn't an option here. :)

Thanks,
Manuel

From shirleywalt at kc.rr.com  Thu Jan  5 10:36:49 2006
From: shirleywalt at kc.rr.com (Shirley & Walt)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 03:36:49 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] Finding Spambayes Manager?
Message-ID: <000001c611db$8ddfeb10$640fa8c0@nelson>

Window says to "select spambayes manager and run the configuration wizard to
reconfigure the filter".

 

Where do I find the the "Spambayes Manager" on the computer.

 

W. Nelson

shirleywalt at kc.rr.com 

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan  5 10:43:09 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:43:09 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Finding Spambayes Manager?
In-Reply-To: <000001c611db$8ddfeb10$640fa8c0@nelson>
References: <000001c611db$8ddfeb10$640fa8c0@nelson>
Message-ID: <B5E2090C-DE52-4348-91D9-2AB3295E5593@ihug.co.nz>

> Where do I find the the ?Spambayes Manager? on the computer.

In Outlook, you should have a "SpamBayes" button next to the "Delete  
as Spam" / "Recover from Spam" button(s) on the toolbar.  If you  
click that button, it will drop down a menu, the first item on which  
will be "SpamBayes Manager".

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan  5 10:50:45 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:50:45 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Modified Classifier storage
In-Reply-To: <F6A19111-841F-4C5D-8E49-71D185F599DD@af0.net>
References: <F6A19111-841F-4C5D-8E49-71D185F599DD@af0.net>
Message-ID: <20EC9504-8BA6-4981-91C3-A5AC2BC1A53D@ihug.co.nz>

> I'm looking to store a bunch of storage.Classifiers in a database
> indexed by user (in other words, so that each user gets his own
> classifier). It seems I could do this easily enough by modifying
> mySQLClassifier or similar (though I'd like to use SQLObject so I'm
> not tied to a specific database server), but before I go and mess
> with that, I was wondering if there's an easier way.

Are you after easy or efficient?  Assuming that tokens are likely to  
be found in more than one user's database (this would certainly be  
true with email; I have no idea whether it is true for whatever you  
are doing) then a more efficient database system might be to have a  
'token' table and then references to that in a user's table (which  
would have 'token reference', 'ham count', 'spam count' entries).  I  
believe someone did something like this a long time back and posted  
here about it - google might help find it.

> For example, I could probably create a classifier.Classifier  
> instead, and
> just pickle it to and from a database record (one per user), but  
> without
> looking closer at the code I'm unclear if that's completely batty or
> not.

This is basically what the PickledClassifier class does (but stores  
the pickle in a file, rather than a database), so I can't see  
anything particularly batty about it.  This would certainly be easy  
and fast.  This involves keeping the entire object in memory, so  
whether it's feasible depends somewhat on how many users there will  
be and how large the classifiers will be (without knowing what will  
be in them, we have no way of knowing that).

=Tony.Meyer




-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From sandeman at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Jan  5 05:59:33 2006
From: sandeman at tiscali.co.uk (Bill Sandeman)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 04:59:33 -0000
Subject: [Spambayes] Configuring spambayes
Message-ID: <000701c611b4$d2cbe0c0$15f52f50@rodgerbsql2lhc>

Hi,

I have had Spambayes POP3 proxy version 1.0.4 (March 2005) for about a month now, and have trained quite a few messages on it, but despite reading your troubleshooting guide am still too thick to get it to work!

Most of my trouble is that I do not understand the language you are using: for example, I have never been able to work out what a "server" is.

Could you please explain in words of one syllable how to alter my incoming mail settings?  I have replaced pop.3.tiscali.co.uk with spambayes at localhost in my accounts for incoming mail, and also in the "servers" tab, despite it not accepting the latter as a valid server name.

I also enclose a copy of my configuration attempts as a word document.

Thank you,

Bill Sandeman
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From dburkdburk at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  6 01:03:55 2006
From: dburkdburk at hotmail.com (Danny Burk)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:03:55 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV14B44350DE2FAF85BADB0DCF210@phx.gbl>

Hello!

Thanks for having such a great product!

I just recently upgraded to Outlook 2003 and Spambayes is doing fine at moving junk and suspect junk to the right place. The toolbar, however, cannot be used. Anytime I click on anything on the toolbar including the option to configure Spambayes, Outlook shuts down. I've read a couple of threads of folks having the same problem, but I haven't found the thread with the solution. There is one, isn't there?

Thanks!

Danny Burk
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From glehmuth at ncdcusa.org  Fri Jan  6 21:22:49 2006
From: glehmuth at ncdcusa.org (glehmuth)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:22:49 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] error message
Message-ID: <PLEFIFBJCKEHCAPGPMMMGEKBIAAA.glehmuth@ncdcusa.org>

I'm getting this error message:

Server REsponse 504 :MAILERDAEMON at west263.  Recipient address rejected need
fully qualified address.



Sr. Georgette Lehmuth, OSF
President and CEO
National Catholic Development Conference
86 Front Street
Hempstead, NY 11550
Ph: 516-481-6000 Fax: 516-489-9287
glehmuth at ncdcusa.org
Visit our website at www.ncdcusa.org


From heather at slidework.com  Sat Jan  7 01:15:59 2006
From: heather at slidework.com (Heather)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:15:59 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Crash
Message-ID: <6B45C317A00F434CBAF512C129B16A83157263@vitamix.Slidework.local>

Hi,

 

I've been a happy user of SpamBayes for a couple of years now, but
started to have a major error last night.

 

My current configuration:

*	XP Pro
*	Acer TravelMate 8100 (notebook)
*	Outlook 2003
*	SpamBayes 1.0.4

 

System changes since SpamBayes was last operational:

*	Installed Adobe Creative Suite Premium (Photoshop; Illustrator;
GoLive; Acrobat Pro; ImageReady; InDesign; VersionCue)
*	Installed MSN Messenger
*	Installed Google Talk
*	(all last night)

 

Issue:

*	Before the installs, I closed Outlook
*	When I restarted after the last install and tried to opened
Outlook, I got an error message that left me with the option of
restarting Outlook with or without disabling SpamBayes
*	The only way I could open Outlook successfully was to disable
SpamBayes

 

Solutions Tried:

*	Rebooting
*	Uninstalling SpamBayes and reinstalling it (re-enabling it in
Outlook)
*	Installing the newer version of SpamBayes

 

No solutions I've tried have worked. I still get the same issue
described above. I'd love your help, because I already REALLY miss
SpamBayes. -Heather 

 

Slidework LLC :: Presenting You.
http://www.slidework.com :: (206) 686-7780 

Direct: (206) 686-7780 x555

 

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From tim at aterraform.com  Sat Jan  7 01:29:02 2006
From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone)
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:29:02 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] error message
In-Reply-To: <PLEFIFBJCKEHCAPGPMMMGEKBIAAA.glehmuth@ncdcusa.org>
References: <PLEFIFBJCKEHCAPGPMMMGEKBIAAA.glehmuth@ncdcusa.org>
Message-ID: <43BF0B4E.4010302@aterraform.com>

There's not enough information here to indicate you have a Spambayes 
related problem.  Please provide some evidence that Spambayes is causing 
this problem, as it normally does nothing with outgoing mail, and this 
seems to be caused by a malformed email address.

glehmuth wrote:

>I'm getting this error message:
>
>Server REsponse 504 :MAILERDAEMON at west263.  Recipient address rejected need
>fully qualified address.
>
>
>
>Sr. Georgette Lehmuth, OSF
>President and CEO
>National Catholic Development Conference
>86 Front Street
>Hempstead, NY 11550
>Ph: 516-481-6000 Fax: 516-489-9287
>glehmuth at ncdcusa.org
>Visit our website at www.ncdcusa.org
>
>_______________________________________________
>SpamBayes at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
>Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
>
>
>
>
>  
>


From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 08:37:06 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:37:06 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Training & Modified
In-Reply-To: <digak7$2gp$1@sea.gmane.org>
References: <000001c5cd86$e1589d80$89d2c254@pc01>
	<313C4335-D28C-4510-B516-98F5C872BAEB@ihug.co.nz>
	<digak7$2gp$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <7A75671C-AE9A-438A-BBF5-688663F6440B@ihug.co.nz>

> I sended following answer first directly to Tony.

Unfortunately, those will either be ignored (when I'm busy) or  
responded to with a generic 'please use the list' message.

> I'm using Outlook 2002 and SpamBayes 1.1a1 as plug-in.
> The modified dates are modified due to "Score messages after  
> training". This
> is logic, since the "Spam" field is updated, I presume.

Yes, that's correct.

> Now my (final) question: Is the "training database status" in the  
> "General"
> panel always updated?

Yes.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 08:39:25 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:39:25 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Configuring spambayes
In-Reply-To: <000701c611b4$d2cbe0c0$15f52f50@rodgerbsql2lhc>
References: <000701c611b4$d2cbe0c0$15f52f50@rodgerbsql2lhc>
Message-ID: <E0002C10-E276-49A1-A843-9F3B4A0A38CB@ihug.co.nz>

> Could you please explain in words of one syllable how to alter my
> incoming mail settings?

Have you tried FAQ 4.21?

<http://spambayes.org/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and-outlook- 
express>

> I have replaced pop.3.tiscali.co.uk with spambayes at localhost in my  
> accounts
> for incoming mail,

I presume you mean here the name of the account - it can be anything  
you like.

> and also in the "servers" tab, despite it not accepting the latter  
> as a valid
> server name.

Outlook Express knows what its doing here - that's not a valid server  
name.  You want simply "localhost" (no quotes).

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 08:46:03 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:46:03 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-DAV14B44350DE2FAF85BADB0DCF210@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY102-DAV14B44350DE2FAF85BADB0DCF210@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4F617638-3244-4AC1-BBF8-32A500CD9D31@ihug.co.nz>

> Anytime I click on anything on the toolbar including the option to  
> configure
> Spambayes, Outlook shuts down.

Have you tried the suggestions in the Troubleshooting Guide?

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 08:48:26 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:48:26 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Crash
In-Reply-To: <6B45C317A00F434CBAF512C129B16A83157263@vitamix.Slidework.local>
References: <6B45C317A00F434CBAF512C129B16A83157263@vitamix.Slidework.local>
Message-ID: <A98FF647-3CAE-418E-80AE-CD3FEADAC4D7@ihug.co.nz>

> Before the installs, I closed Outlook
> When I restarted after the last install and tried to opened  
> Outlook, I got an error message that left me with the option of  
> restarting Outlook with or without disabling SpamBayes
> The only way I could open Outlook successfully was to disable  
> SpamBayes

If you re-enable SpamBayes (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled  
Items) does it then ask you to disable it next time you start?

(I use Google Talk and MSN Messenger, so I doubt those are to blame,  
and it seems unlikely that the Adobe products would be).

You could try doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook, and see if that  
helps.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 08:51:14 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:51:14 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] request for Help
In-Reply-To: <07BBC86DDB5EED47B871AC6B5A537EE98E3FB2@msmail.ds.usfca.edu>
References: <07BBC86DDB5EED47B871AC6B5A537EE98E3FB2@msmail.ds.usfca.edu>
Message-ID: <98BF4E39-7504-47ED-BA69-C39EFF7359DB@ihug.co.nz>

> However, after re-installing a system image from my previous machine,
> SpamBayes stops working in my new machine's Outlook. I have tried many
> things to restore the greatest SpamBayes, but still without success.

Have you checked to see if Outlook has disabled the plugin?  Help- 
 >About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items.

(I'm not familiar with the "runtime error" message that was in the  
attachment you included.  It might be best to uninstall the source  
version (addin.py --unregister) and reinstall 1.0.4 if it is disabled).

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 08:52:35 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:52:35 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] icon in systray not "active"
In-Reply-To: <20060103.144219.1452.0.cwlinhardt@juno.com>
References: <20060103.144219.1452.0.cwlinhardt@juno.com>
Message-ID: <92802575-3958-4E35-B4CF-5D8948303BD4@ihug.co.nz>

> I would be happy to do whatever is likely to get me back to the point
> where I can at least try to do something to recover.  I am  
> attaching the
> file called bayescustomize.ini.  Now that I know about this file, I  
> can
> edit it, if that is the correct thing.  Or, remove the entire file, if
> that is likely to allow tray icon to do it's normal function.

Either remove the file, or remove the sections under [smtpproxy] (as  
explained in the previous email).

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 10:40:33 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:40:33 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] spam not detected
In-Reply-To: <000601c6106b$e5bef540$8901a8c0@ibma60>
References: <000601c6106b$e5bef540$8901a8c0@ibma60>
Message-ID: <2BE7BA7F-A5BE-45CE-B08F-498721C123C6@ihug.co.nz>

> I start to get spams that were not even shown on the "untrained list".
> They were put in my inbox as ham, and could not be trained against.

Please send us a copy of your log files.  These are in your temp  
directory; possibly 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local  
Settings\Temp'.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 10:41:16 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:41:16 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Problems with Spambayes after installing as outlook
	plug-in
In-Reply-To: <32F479CD71917240B958683CA6C7E00307319C@studentEX8.campus.tue.nl>
References: <32F479CD71917240B958683CA6C7E00307319C@studentEX8.campus.tue.nl>
Message-ID: <3C3F4C04-1173-4022-9C25-69D94B9C6CE1@ihug.co.nz>

> After working for a couple of months with Spambayes the program  
> crashed. It didn't move any mailmessage at all. I uninstalled the  
> program, but after installing it again, the software doesn't work.  
> Outlook doesn't have the spambayes bar at the top. How can I fix  
> this problem?

See if Outlook has disabled the plugin. Help->About Microsoft Outlook- 
 >Disabled Items.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 10:42:34 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:42:34 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] new Kmail feature
In-Reply-To: <200601031526.59243.anthony@interlink.com.au>
References: <200511201037.34803.claude_jones@levitjames.com>
	<933D09EF-2B3F-45B8-90FC-69CE062806FE@ihug.co.nz>
	<200601031526.59243.anthony@interlink.com.au>
Message-ID: <02635514-70B5-4F81-BF65-2BC4419B9DF4@ihug.co.nz>

On 3/01/2006, at 5:26 PM, Anthony Baxter wrote:

> On Thursday 24 November 2005 20:20, Tony Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> I'm wondering if this has been implemented in conjunction with
>>> the Spambayes team - that's one question.
>>
>> Not to my knowledge (certainly nothing has been posted on
>> spambayes- dev, and I expect if they contacted someone off-list,
>> like Tim, that person would have let everyone else know).
>
> I logged it as a KDE feature request, and supplied the details some
> time ago. I posted about it to one of the SB lists.

Shows you what a crap memory I have :)  Thanks for the correction.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan  7 11:10:31 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 23:10:31 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] spam not detected
In-Reply-To: <2BE7BA7F-A5BE-45CE-B08F-498721C123C6@ihug.co.nz>
References: <000601c6106b$e5bef540$8901a8c0@ibma60>
	<2BE7BA7F-A5BE-45CE-B08F-498721C123C6@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <CA30CA99-E64E-4C58-8934-9B42E501AA98@ihug.co.nz>

On 7/01/2006, at 10:40 PM, Tony Meyer wrote:

>> I start to get spams that were not even shown on the "untrained  
>> list".
>> They were put in my inbox as ham, and could not be trained against.
>
> Please send us a copy of your log files.  These are in your temp
> directory; possibly 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local
> Settings\Temp'.

And are called SpambayesServer1.log, SpambayesServer2.log and so on.

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From dburkdburk at hotmail.com  Sat Jan  7 13:40:34 2006
From: dburkdburk at hotmail.com (Danny Burk)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 07:40:34 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
References: <BAY102-DAV14B44350DE2FAF85BADB0DCF210@phx.gbl>
	<4F617638-3244-4AC1-BBF8-32A500CD9D31@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV474F3B2488833577486A6CF200@phx.gbl>

Hi Tony:

Yes I have. I've uninstalled, reinstalled, disabled and reinabled in 
Outlook. I've turned DEP on for all programs and put Outlook in as not being 
included.

I'm open for trying anything else.

Thanks!

Danny Burk
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
To: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem


>> Anytime I click on anything on the toolbar including the option to 
>> configure
>> Spambayes, Outlook shuts down.
>
> Have you tried the suggestions in the Troubleshooting Guide?
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
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>
>
> 

From heather at slidework.com  Sat Jan  7 19:37:09 2006
From: heather at slidework.com (Heather)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:37:09 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Crash
Message-ID: <6B45C317A00F434CBAF512C129B16A83157268@vitamix.Slidework.local>

Thank you, Tony. When I re-enable it then restart Outlook, it does ask
me to disable it again. ;-( 

I will try doing detect and repair, though, and I'll let you know how
that goes. Thanks for your quick response! -Heather 

Slidework LLC :: (206) 686-7780 
              Direct :: (206) 686-7780 x555
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:48 PM
To: Heather
Cc: spambayes at python.org
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Crash

> Before the installs, I closed Outlook
> When I restarted after the last install and tried to opened  
> Outlook, I got an error message that left me with the option of  
> restarting Outlook with or without disabling SpamBayes
> The only way I could open Outlook successfully was to disable  
> SpamBayes

If you re-enable SpamBayes (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled  
Items) does it then ask you to disable it next time you start?

(I use Google Talk and MSN Messenger, so I doubt those are to blame,  
and it seems unlikely that the Adobe products would be).

You could try doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook, and see if that  
helps.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sun Jan  8 03:03:04 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:03:04 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] spam not detected
In-Reply-To: <000601c6106b$e5bef540$8901a8c0@ibma60>
References: <000601c6106b$e5bef540$8901a8c0@ibma60>
Message-ID: <78220E63-C990-42CC-AD46-FDB74BAD6E29@ihug.co.nz>

> I start to get spams that were not even shown on the "untrained list".
> They were put in my inbox as ham, and could not be trained against.

Please send us a copy of your log files.  These are in your temp  
directory; possibly 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local  
Settings\Temp'.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sun Jan  8 03:14:03 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:14:03 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] spam not detected
In-Reply-To: <001001c6139b$0681db30$8901a8c0@ibma60>
References: <000601c6106b$e5bef540$8901a8c0@ibma60>
	<2BE7BA7F-A5BE-45CE-B08F-498721C123C6@ihug.co.nz>
	<CA30CA99-E64E-4C58-8934-9B42E501AA98@ihug.co.nz>
	<001001c6139b$0681db30$8901a8c0@ibma60>
Message-ID: <B6335E7C-E52D-41B3-A9E4-B90D5B7D9FD1@ihug.co.nz>

> I start to get spams that were not even shown on the "untrained   
> list".
> They were put in my inbox as ham, and could not be trained against.

Your messageinfo database is corrupt; you need to remove the database  
file.  The name & path of this file is on the configuration page, but  
it's most likely called spambayes.messageinfo.db and in 'C:\Documents  
and Settings\{username}\Application Data\Spambayes\Proxy'.

If you delete the file a new fresh copy will be created next time  
SpamBayes starts up.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sun Jan  8 03:23:01 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:23:01 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-DAV474F3B2488833577486A6CF200@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY102-DAV14B44350DE2FAF85BADB0DCF210@phx.gbl>
	<4F617638-3244-4AC1-BBF8-32A500CD9D31@ihug.co.nz>
	<BAY102-DAV474F3B2488833577486A6CF200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F40BAEC1-2302-4973-8CCF-683D2162B688@ihug.co.nz>

>>>> Anytime I click on anything on the toolbar including the option  
>>>> to configure
>>>> Spambayes, Outlook shuts down.
>>>
>>> Have you tried the suggestions in the Troubleshooting Guide?
>
> Yes I have. I've uninstalled, reinstalled, disabled and reinabled  
> in Outlook. I've turned DEP on for all programs and put Outlook in  
> as not being included.

Did you try the toolbar specific suggestions, such as deleting  
outcmd.dat?  What about doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook?

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sun Jan  8 03:36:38 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:36:38 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] FW: spam bayes won't work
In-Reply-To: <000001c61023$0e808000$0300a8c0@ISABELLA>
References: <000001c61023$0e808000$0300a8c0@ISABELLA>
Message-ID: <9EABB8FA-4A62-489F-88F1-3F20589CD7D1@ihug.co.nz>

>>> After months of use when I click on Spam Bayes in Outlook 2002,
>>> nothing happens.  I've tried reinstalling Spam Bayes; I've checked
>>> to see if it's disabled (it's not).  I've even done a Windows
>>> system Restore to last week when Spam Bayes was working well.
>>> Nothing has helped.
>>
>>> I recreated the toolbat as described in your troubleshooting guide-
>>> that did not solve the problem.  I then tried to remove the file
>>> \Documents and Settings\username\Microsoft\Outlook\outcmd.dat   but
>>> it doesn't exist!
>
> I did find the outcmd.dat file in hidden folders and deleted it but
> still no luck.

Are you able to similarly find the SpamBayes log files now?   
\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp 
\SpambayesServer1.log

>> If that doesn't work:  are all three of the SpamBayes buttons non-
>> functional, or just some?  Does SpamBayes still filter?
>
> The only buttons I have relating to spam bayes is a
> frownie face labeled "delete as spam" and the spam bayes manager to  
> the
> right of it on the Outlook bar.

Does nothing happen if you click either of these buttons?  Or does  
the "Delete as spam" button not work, but the "SpamBayes" button  
still work?  Does SpamBayes still filter?

=Tony.Meyer

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From dburkdburk at hotmail.com  Sun Jan  8 03:51:26 2006
From: dburkdburk at hotmail.com (Danny Burk)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 21:51:26 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
References: <BAY102-DAV14B44350DE2FAF85BADB0DCF210@phx.gbl>
	<4F617638-3244-4AC1-BBF8-32A500CD9D31@ihug.co.nz>
	<BAY102-DAV474F3B2488833577486A6CF200@phx.gbl>
	<F40BAEC1-2302-4973-8CCF-683D2162B688@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV91338691C8B50E3301E5CCF230@phx.gbl>

Thanks for sticking with this.

I can't find the thread talking about outcmd.dat, but I checked my drives to 
see if I have such a file and I don't.
I ran detect & repair.

The behavior is unchanged.

More thoughts?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
To: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem


>>>>> Anytime I click on anything on the toolbar including the option  to 
>>>>> configure
>>>>> Spambayes, Outlook shuts down.
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried the suggestions in the Troubleshooting Guide?
>>
>> Yes I have. I've uninstalled, reinstalled, disabled and reinabled  in 
>> Outlook. I've turned DEP on for all programs and put Outlook in  as not 
>> being included.
>
> Did you try the toolbar specific suggestions, such as deleting 
> outcmd.dat?  What about doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook?
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>
>
> 

From montejw at earthlink.net  Sun Jan  8 04:05:38 2006
From: montejw at earthlink.net (Monte)
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:05:38 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and Thunderbird,
	server and username (followup)
Message-ID: <43C08182.8000502@earthlink.net>

I got it working, set the server to "localhost", set username to 
"username" and it works.

Here's something I ran into.  I've got 3 email addresses I get with 
Thunderbird (Mozilla).  Each one has a Server, Port, and Username.  2 of 
them have the same "username".  Thunderbird won't let me set the server 
for those both to "localhost", I had to set one to "127.0.0.1".  I've 
got each looking at a different port, 110, 115, and 120.  Popfile 
handled this by making the usernames "mail.server.com:username", that 
would eliminate this problem, making all the usernames truly unique for 
the localhost server.

Monte

##### previous message #####
I just installed SpamBayes to use with Thunderbird.  I've been using
Popfile successfully.  I set the server to "localhost".  The username
has been set to "mail.server.net:username" (no quotes) for Popfile.
This isn't working for SpamBayes, or at least I can't get it to work,
there is a problem with my password authentication, it won't.  I can't
find anything on this "subject", searched the archives back 5 months.

I also use AVG 7 for my anti-virus.  Windows XP.
spambayes-1.0.4.exe is what I installed.

Thanks,
Monte


From shawchen at comcast.net  Sun Jan  8 04:12:03 2006
From: shawchen at comcast.net (Shaw T Chen)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:12:03 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] spam not detected
References: <000601c6106b$e5bef540$8901a8c0@ibma60>
	<2BE7BA7F-A5BE-45CE-B08F-498721C123C6@ihug.co.nz>
	<CA30CA99-E64E-4C58-8934-9B42E501AA98@ihug.co.nz>
	<001001c6139b$0681db30$8901a8c0@ibma60>
	<B6335E7C-E52D-41B3-A9E4-B90D5B7D9FD1@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <000701c61401$4ca1c1f0$8901a8c0@ibma60>

Thank you for the help.
-Shaw
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
To: "Shaw T Chen" <shawchen at comcast.net>
Cc: "spambayes List" <spambayes at python.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] spam not detected


> Your messageinfo database is corrupt; you need to remove the database  
> file.  The name & path of this file is on the configuration page, but  
> it's most likely called spambayes.messageinfo.db and in 'C:\Documents  
> and Settings\{username}\Application Data\Spambayes\Proxy'.
> 
> If you delete the file a new fresh copy will be created next time  
> SpamBayes starts up.
> 
> =Tony.Meyer
> 
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 01/06/06
>

From montejw at earthlink.net  Sun Jan  8 03:14:37 2006
From: montejw at earthlink.net (Monte)
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 18:14:37 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and Thunderbird, server and username
Message-ID: <43C0758D.8090000@earthlink.net>

I just installed SpamBayes to use with Thunderbird.  I've been using 
Popfile successfully.  I set the server to "localhost".  The username 
has been set to "mail.server.net:username" (no quotes) for Popfile. 
This isn't working for SpamBayes, or at least I can't get it to work, 
there is a problem with my password authentication, it won't.  I can't 
find anything on this "subject", searched the archives back 5 months.

I also use AVG 7 for my anti-virus.  Windows XP.
spambayes-1.0.4.exe is what I installed.

Thanks,
Monte

From harry at begier.com  Sun Jan  8 14:05:48 2006
From: harry at begier.com (Harry P Begier Jr)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:05:48 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Permission Denied
Message-ID: <002001c61454$3f3e6560$6401a8c0@ComputerHarry>

> This is what is in outlook_addin.register.exe,log:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "addin.py", line 72, in ?
> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
> 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "addin.py", line 72, in ?
> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
> 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'
>
> Can you help me solve this problem?

Harry P Begier Jr
224 W Willow Grove Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19118-3919
Tel  # (215) 994-1515
Fax # (215) 994-1516
E-mail: harrry at begier.com


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From harry at begier.com  Sun Jan  8 14:13:40 2006
From: harry at begier.com (Harry P Begier Jr)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Permission Denied
Message-ID: <002701c61455$582d5760$6401a8c0@ComputerHarry>

I did check the FAQ. Nothing.

Harry P Begier Jr
224 W Willow Grove Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19118-3919
Tel  # (215) 994-1515
Fax # (215) 994-1516
E-mail: harrry at begier.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Harry P Begier Jr [mailto:harry at begier.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:06 AM
To: 'spambayes at python.org'
Subject: Permission Denied

> This is what is in outlook_addin.register.exe,log:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "addin.py", line 72, in ?
> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
> 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "addin.py", line 72, in ?
> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
> 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'
>
> Can you help me solve this problem?

Harry P Begier Jr
224 W Willow Grove Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19118-3919
Tel  # (215) 994-1515
Fax # (215) 994-1516
E-mail: harrry at begier.com


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From tim at aterraform.com  Sun Jan  8 14:46:29 2006
From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 07:46:29 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and Thunderbird,
	server and username (followup)
In-Reply-To: <43C08182.8000502@earthlink.net>
References: <43C08182.8000502@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43C117B5.5070306@aterraform.com>

Interesting.  Yes, Thunderbird does seem to be too smart for our own 
good in this instance.  Thanks for the heads up.

Monte wrote:

>I got it working, set the server to "localhost", set username to 
>"username" and it works.
>
>Here's something I ran into.  I've got 3 email addresses I get with 
>Thunderbird (Mozilla).  Each one has a Server, Port, and Username.  2 of 
>them have the same "username".  Thunderbird won't let me set the server 
>for those both to "localhost", I had to set one to "127.0.0.1".  I've 
>got each looking at a different port, 110, 115, and 120.  Popfile 
>handled this by making the usernames "mail.server.com:username", that 
>would eliminate this problem, making all the usernames truly unique for 
>the localhost server.
>
>Monte
>
>##### previous message #####
>I just installed SpamBayes to use with Thunderbird.  I've been using
>Popfile successfully.  I set the server to "localhost".  The username
>has been set to "mail.server.net:username" (no quotes) for Popfile.
>This isn't working for SpamBayes, or at least I can't get it to work,
>there is a problem with my password authentication, it won't.  I can't
>find anything on this "subject", searched the archives back 5 months.
>
>I also use AVG 7 for my anti-virus.  Windows XP.
>spambayes-1.0.4.exe is what I installed.
>
>Thanks,
>Monte
>
>_______________________________________________
>SpamBayes at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
>Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
>
>
>
>
>  
>


From tim at aterraform.com  Sun Jan  8 14:47:47 2006
From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 07:47:47 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] Permission Denied
In-Reply-To: <002001c61454$3f3e6560$6401a8c0@ComputerHarry>
References: <002001c61454$3f3e6560$6401a8c0@ComputerHarry>
Message-ID: <43C11803.7090207@aterraform.com>

Does the userid you're logged on to windows as have administrator 
permission?

Harry P Begier Jr wrote:

> > This is what is in outlook_addin.register.exe,log:
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "addin.py", line 72, in ?
> > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
> > 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "addin.py", line 72, in ?
> > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
> > 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Harry\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log'
> >
> > Can you help me solve this problem?
>
> Harry P Begier Jr
> 224 W Willow Grove Avenue
> Philadelphia, PA 19118-3919
> Tel  # (215) 994-1515
> Fax # (215) 994-1516
> E-mail: harrry at begier.com <mailto:harrry at begier.com>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>SpamBayes at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
>Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 1/6/2006
>  
>


From ht at slidework.com  Mon Jan  9 01:59:04 2006
From: ht at slidework.com (Heather Tall)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:59:04 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Crash
Message-ID: <6B45C317A00F434CBAF512C129B16A8315726F@vitamix.Slidework.local>

Hi Tony,

After a few tries, I was able to run the "Detect and Repair"
successfully (it ended in a message that said it was successful), but
I'm still not able to re-enable SpamBayes without Outlook crashing (as
described earlier). What else do you think could solve this? 

Thank you so much for your help! -Heather

Slidework LLC :: (206) 686-7780 
              Direct :: (206) 686-7780 x555
-----Original Message-----
From: Heather 
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:37 AM
To: 'Tony Meyer'
Cc: spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Crash

Thank you, Tony. When I re-enable it then restart Outlook, it does ask
me to disable it again. ;-( 

I will try doing detect and repair, though, and I'll let you know how
that goes. Thanks for your quick response! -Heather 

Slidework LLC :: (206) 686-7780 
              Direct :: (206) 686-7780 x555
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:48 PM
To: Heather
Cc: spambayes at python.org
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Crash

> Before the installs, I closed Outlook
> When I restarted after the last install and tried to opened  
> Outlook, I got an error message that left me with the option of  
> restarting Outlook with or without disabling SpamBayes
> The only way I could open Outlook successfully was to disable  
> SpamBayes

If you re-enable SpamBayes (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled  
Items) does it then ask you to disable it next time you start?

(I use Google Talk and MSN Messenger, so I doubt those are to blame,  
and it seems unlikely that the Adobe products would be).

You could try doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook, and see if that  
helps.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.





From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Jan  9 06:08:14 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:08:14 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and Thunderbird,
	server and username (followup)
In-Reply-To: <43C08182.8000502@earthlink.net>
References: <43C08182.8000502@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <F45AD7D3-BCF7-4316-A3CF-936506E2CAF9@ihug.co.nz>

> Here's something I ran into.  I've got 3 email addresses I get with
> Thunderbird (Mozilla).  Each one has a Server, Port, and Username.   
> 2 of
> them have the same "username".  Thunderbird won't let me set the  
> server
> for those both to "localhost", I had to set one to "127.0.0.1".  I've
> got each looking at a different port, 110, 115, and 120.

This is a Thunderbird bug, not a SpamBayes one - you might wish to  
submit a bug report to the Mozilla team (or check to see if one is  
already open).  There's no reason why a mail client should prevent  
you from having two accounts with the same address & username if the  
port is different.

Note that if you need more options, you can muck about with the hosts  
file to create more localhost aliases.

> Popfile handled this by making the usernames  
> "mail.server.com:username",
> that would eliminate this problem, making all the usernames truly  
> unique
> for the localhost server.

Whether to use separate ports or to prepend/append the account onto  
the username was a design decision made long ago when the SpamBayes  
POP3 proxy was first created.  Using separate ports has various  
advantages, so that was the decision that was made.  Either should  
work fine.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From montejw at earthlink.net  Tue Jan 10 05:15:37 2006
From: montejw at earthlink.net (Monte)
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:15:37 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Training
Message-ID: <43C334E9.3050007@earthlink.net>

I've been running SpamBayes for a couple days now, it's getting better 
pretty fast.  Does it do anygood to "train" on messages that are already 
classified correctly?  I'm asking because if I "Review Messages...." and 
there are lots of correctly classified messages and a few new 
unclassified or incorrectly classified messages it trains faster if I 
"discard" the correct ones and only train on the others.  BUT, it's 
easier to just correct the few and leave the others as is.

So, does it do any good to retrain on the correct ones, or does it just 
take a little extra time.

Thanks,
Monte

From tim at aterraform.com  Wed Jan 11 00:40:12 2006
From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:40:12 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] Training
In-Reply-To: <43C334E9.3050007@earthlink.net>
References: <43C334E9.3050007@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43C445DC.8050205@aterraform.com>

That's actually a bit of a complex question you're asking ;)  but the 
short answer is: no.  It does no harm to train on correctly classified 
messages.

Monte wrote:

>I've been running SpamBayes for a couple days now, it's getting better 
>pretty fast.  Does it do anygood to "train" on messages that are already 
>classified correctly?  I'm asking because if I "Review Messages...." and 
>there are lots of correctly classified messages and a few new 
>unclassified or incorrectly classified messages it trains faster if I 
>"discard" the correct ones and only train on the others.  BUT, it's 
>easier to just correct the few and leave the others as is.
>
>So, does it do any good to retrain on the correct ones, or does it just 
>take a little extra time.
>
>Thanks,
>Monte
>_______________________________________________
>SpamBayes at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
>Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
>
>
>
>
>  
>


From Hall.Barbara at saugov.sa.gov.au  Wed Jan 11 00:32:13 2006
From: Hall.Barbara at saugov.sa.gov.au (Hall, Barbara (PIRSA - SARDI))
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:02:13 +1030
Subject: [Spambayes] not filtering
Message-ID: <C9A3316E261F6E45B9ED5F4C3487C101074C997B@sagemsg0010.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au>

HI
my spambayes was working fine until Christmas.  I have reloaded it and it is
still refusing to filter.  Attached is the latest log.  Any ideas?

cheers Barbara

 <<spambayes1.log>> 

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and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, any
disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken is prohibited.
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From jensen at cogeco.ca  Wed Jan 11 01:12:19 2006
From: jensen at cogeco.ca (jensen)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:12:19 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes]  Error-Guard Support Request
Message-ID: <000501c61643$b094f5d0$c636e218@your22ca86d5c4>

hi hi  my navn is leo larsen i bought errorguard to my computer then i got an nye server cogeco,but i lost my errorguard can i grt anny help to get it back to my computre agan my ordre nr z6vokhg8x registration key khmc-xakv-rspx-rfva i dont know very mucht about computer anny help will be great sincerly leo larsen   jensen1 at cogeco.ca
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From sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com  Wed Jan 11 01:10:48 2006
From: sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com (Seth Goodman)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:10:48 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] Training
In-Reply-To: <43C334E9.3050007@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <MHEGIFHMACFNNIMMBACAIEDLLEAA.sethg@GoodmanAssociates.com>

> From: Monte
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:16 PM

<...>

> So, does it do any good to retrain on the correct ones, or
> does it just take a little extra time.

As Tim said, this is more complicated than it first looks.  One thing to
keep in mind is to avoid a large imbalance in the number of trained ham
and spam.  Though there have been some notable exceptions, it seems that
most people get the best results when the number of trained ham and spam
are similar.  I don't think anyone has answered the question of how
"balanced" the number of trained ham and spam need to be before
performance suffers.  My best SWAG (sophisticated *-* guess) is that if
you can keep them within a 2:1 ratio, you are probably in good shape.  I
try to keep it closer than that, but I can't prove it helps.

--
Seth Goodman


From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Jan 11 03:45:23 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:45:23 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Error-Guard Support Request
In-Reply-To: <000501c61643$b094f5d0$c636e218@your22ca86d5c4>
References: <000501c61643$b094f5d0$c636e218@your22ca86d5c4>
Message-ID: <286B072C-ECA7-43C8-A5BB-1E376AD5B495@ihug.co.nz>

> i bought errorguard to my computer
[...]

You have emailed a public mailing list dedicated to the open-source  
anti-spam filter SpamBayes (http://spambayes.org).  We have nothing  
to do with anything called "Error-Guard".

What made you choose this address to email?

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From KarenKreps at NetIngenuity.com  Wed Jan 11 16:42:18 2006
From: KarenKreps at NetIngenuity.com (Karen Kreps)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:42:18 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] toolbars not appearing
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAADfqUcAnpb9EtkZvzvLhzYfCgAAAEAAAAIVw8CpdCvJDpZA3Fdd9GMIBAAAAAA==@NetIngenuity.com>

Hello Spambayes Experts,

 

After using Spambayes successfully (on a Win XP machine with Outlook 2003
Pro), I got a message saying something (can't recall what) had caused a
problem and the filters should be disabled. I then uninstalled and
reinstalled the software (twice, including checking with Regedit to make
sure there was nothing left in the registry). Now the toolbars are not
showing and do not appear as an option when I go to View/Toolbars. It
appears to be filtering spam to Junk and Junk Suspects, but I can't make the
toolbars appear. What do you suggest?

 

Thank you!

 

Karen Kreps
Net Ingenuity

Increase your net worth with ingenuity. Net Ingenuity.
 <http://netingenuity.com/> http://NetIngenuity.com 

 

 

 

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From KarenKreps at NetIngenuity.com  Wed Jan 11 16:49:10 2006
From: KarenKreps at NetIngenuity.com (Karen Kreps)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:49:10 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] NEVERMIND: toolbars not appearing
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAADfqUcAnpb9EtkZvzvLhzYfCgAAAEAAAALlQaaVUYUVBpV5x2RNsiTEBAAAAAA==@NetIngenuity.com>

Sorry, no sooner did I send this request for help but I solved the problem
myself, using this guidance from the help files.

 

*	If you are running Outlook XP/2002/2003, you may find that if you go
back to the dialog, the addin will still be unselected.  In this case,
perform the following: 

1.	Go to Help->About Microsoft Outlook.  
2.	Click the Disabled Items button. 
3.	Select SpamBayes.  
4.	Click Enable. 
5.	Restart Outlook. 

 

___________________ 

 

 

Hello Spambayes Experts,

 

After using Spambayes successfully (on a Win XP machine with Outlook 2003
Pro), I got a message saying something (can't recall what) had caused a
problem and the filters should be disabled. I then uninstalled and
reinstalled the software (twice, including checking with Regedit to make
sure there was nothing left in the registry). Now the toolbars are not
showing and do not appear as an option when I go to View/Toolbars. It
appears to be filtering spam to Junk and Junk Suspects, but I can't make the
toolbars appear. What do you suggest?

 

Thank you!

 

Karen Kreps
Net Ingenuity

Increase your net worth with ingenuity. Net Ingenuity.
 <http://netingenuity.com/> http://NetIngenuity.com 

 

 

 

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From tim.peters at gmail.com  Wed Jan 11 17:06:38 2006
From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:06:38 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] NEVERMIND: toolbars not appearing
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAADfqUcAnpb9EtkZvzvLhzYfCgAAAEAAAALlQaaVUYUVBpV5x2RNsiTEBAAAAAA==@NetIngenuity.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAADfqUcAnpb9EtkZvzvLhzYfCgAAAEAAAALlQaaVUYUVBpV5x2RNsiTEBAAAAAA==@NetIngenuity.com>
Message-ID: <1f7befae0601110806m39b90ea0j792bce06282299bf@mail.gmail.com>

[Karen Kreps]
> Sorry, no sooner did I send this request for help but I solved the problem
> myself, using this guidance from the help files.

Very good!  I especially appreciate that this message arrived two
minutes _before_ your original message -- if that's a repeatable
skill, they don't pay you enough by far ;-).

From pauld at mitre.org  Wed Jan 11 20:33:01 2006
From: pauld at mitre.org (Paul Denning)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:33:01 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] How to reclassify Eudora mbx?
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060111060158.01e64a38@mitre.org>

I recently got a new laptop and I am in the process of setting it up.

I installed Eudora 7.0.1.0 and spambayes 1.0.4 on Windows XP SP2.

Before training spambayes, I started receiving email (via POP).

I have several hundred new emails that have passed through spambayes 
and are now classified as unsure and are sitting in a eudora .mbx.

Most of the messages have probably been deleted from the POP server.

I have since trained spambayes on some spam (9883) and ham (6376) 
from my old laptop (also Eudora).
I used the spambayes web interface, and in the "Train on a message, 
mbox file or dbx file" section, I uploaded the eudora .mbx file using 
the Train as Spam or Train as Ham buttons as appropriate.

I would now like to go back and re-classify the hundreds of messages 
that were initially classified as unsure.

The web interface "classify a message" lets you upload a message file 
or paste a message into the form, but I don't think that does what I want.

I would like to take before.mbx and feed it through spambayes to copy 
each message into after.mbx, where after.mbx has the new 
classification (spam, ham, unsure) in the email header and before.mbx 
is left alone (read only).

before.mbx would have email headers "X-Spambayes-Classification: unsure"
after.mbx would have email headers "X-Spambayes-Classification: ham" 
or spam, and a lot fewer unsure.

I don't really care if X-Spambayes-MailId: is changed.

How can I do this?

Paul



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Jan 11 23:54:11 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:54:11 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] How to reclassify Eudora mbx?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060111060158.01e64a38@mitre.org>
References: <7.0.1.0.0.20060111060158.01e64a38@mitre.org>
Message-ID: <1828D456-8DE6-4844-9EEF-405FA63F85FF@ihug.co.nz>

> I would like to take before.mbx and feed it through spambayes to copy
> each message into after.mbx, where after.mbx has the new
> classification (spam, ham, unsure) in the email header and before.mbx
> is left alone (read only).
>
> before.mbx would have email headers "X-Spambayes-Classification:  
> unsure"
> after.mbx would have email headers "X-Spambayes-Classification: ham"
> or spam, and a lot fewer unsure.
>
> I don't really care if X-Spambayes-MailId: is changed.
>
> How can I do this?

You will need the source.  I believe you can use sb_filter to do  
this, with something like:

     python sb_filter.py before.mbx > after.mbx

=Tony.Meyer

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From Hall.Barbara at saugov.sa.gov.au  Thu Jan 12 07:38:23 2006
From: Hall.Barbara at saugov.sa.gov.au (Hall, Barbara (PIRSA - SARDI))
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:08:23 +1030
Subject: [Spambayes] not filtering
Message-ID: <58CF60EBB821CE46A64E0B775DDECD3931EFDD@sagemsg0025.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au>

Further to the email below.  It appears that it filters emails that arrive
during the day, but will not filter ones already in the in box (but unread)
that are there when I first open it in the morning.  Which is the bulk as
they mostly arrive at night!

second log for today attached also.

cheers Barbara

 <<spambayes2.log>> 

HI
my spambayes was working fine until Christmas.  I have reloaded it and it is
still refusing to filter.  Attached is the latest log.  Any ideas?

cheers Barbara

 <<spambayes1.log>> 

The information in this e-mail and attachments (if any) may be confidential
and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, any
disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken is prohibited.
SARDI, The South Australian Research and Development Institute, is the
research division of Primary Industries and Resources (SA) 
 

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From pauld at mitre.org  Thu Jan 12 17:44:05 2006
From: pauld at mitre.org (Paul Denning)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:44:05 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] How to reclassify Eudora mbx?
In-Reply-To: <1828D456-8DE6-4844-9EEF-405FA63F85FF@ihug.co.nz>
References: <7.0.1.0.0.20060111060158.01e64a38@mitre.org>
	<1828D456-8DE6-4844-9EEF-405FA63F85FF@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060112113802.06dd3800@mitre.org>

See below.
Paul


At 05:54 PM 2006-01-11, Tony Meyer wrote:
>>I would like to take before.mbx and feed it through spambayes to copy
>>each message into after.mbx, where after.mbx has the new
>>classification (spam, ham, unsure) in the email header and before.mbx
>>is left alone (read only).
>>
>>before.mbx would have email headers "X-Spambayes-Classification:
>>unsure"
>>after.mbx would have email headers "X-Spambayes-Classification: ham"
>>or spam, and a lot fewer unsure.
>>
>>I don't really care if X-Spambayes-MailId: is changed.
>>
>>How can I do this?
>
>You will need the source.  I believe you can use sb_filter to do
>this, with something like:
>
>     python sb_filter.py before.mbx > after.mbx
>
>=Tony.Meyer

I set the BAYESCUSTOMIZE environment variable to point to the same 
.ini file that is used by the Windows service; i.e.,

BAYESCUSTOMIZE="C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Application 
Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\bayescustomize.ini"

I get the following error; any suggestions?

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "D:\apps\python\Scripts\sb_filter.py", line 257, in ?
     main()
   File "D:\apps\python\Scripts\sb_filter.py", line 248, in main
     action(msg)
   File "D:\apps\python\Scripts\sb_filter.py", line 179, in filter
     self.open('r')
   File "D:\apps\python\Scripts\sb_filter.py", line 163, in open
     self.h = hammie.open(self.dbname, self.usedb, self.mode)
   File "d:\apps\python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\hammie.py", line 
267, in open

     return Hammie(storage.open_storage(filename, useDB, mode))
   File "d:\apps\python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 
708, in ope
n_storage
     return klass(data_source_name, mode)
   File "d:\apps\python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 
187, in __i
nit__
     self.load()
   File "d:\apps\python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 
212, in loa
d
     self.dbm = dbmstorage.open(self.db_name, self.mode)
   File "d:\apps\python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\dbmstorage.py", 
line 65, in o
pen
     return f(db_name, mode)
   File "d:\apps\python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\dbmstorage.py", 
line 38, in o
pen_best
     return f(*args)
   File "d:\apps\python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\dbmstorage.py", 
line 20, in o
pen_dbhash
     return bsddb.hashopen(*args)
   File "d:\apps\python\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 293, in hashopen
     d.open(file, db.DB_HASH, flags, mode)
bsddb._db.DBNoSuchFileError: (2, 'No such file or directory')


Paul




From joschi_entner at yahoo.de  Thu Jan 12 19:01:04 2006
From: joschi_entner at yahoo.de (joschi_entner at yahoo.de)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:01:04 +0100
Subject: [Spambayes] de-installation - how to?
Message-ID: <FIEJJPKBFONIONNDIKMGIEIOCNAA.joschi_entner@yahoo.de>



the version of Windows you are using XP, SP2
the version of SpamBayes 
any log files. 



	

	
		
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 12 20:03:17 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:03:17 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] de-installation - how to?
In-Reply-To: <FIEJJPKBFONIONNDIKMGIEIOCNAA.joschi_entner@yahoo.de>
References: <FIEJJPKBFONIONNDIKMGIEIOCNAA.joschi_entner@yahoo.de>
Message-ID: <123CCE35-EA12-40DD-B1AF-21E551814F3C@ihug.co.nz>

Please see FAQ 3.16:

<http://spambayes.org/faq.html#how-do-i-uninstall-the-plug-in>

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 12 23:04:47 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:04:47 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] How to reclassify Eudora mbx?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060112113802.06dd3800@mitre.org>
References: <7.0.1.0.0.20060111060158.01e64a38@mitre.org>
	<1828D456-8DE6-4844-9EEF-405FA63F85FF@ihug.co.nz>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060112113802.06dd3800@mitre.org>
Message-ID: <78979492-A2E6-4541-A5A4-6B8731E70B8D@ihug.co.nz>

>> You will need the source.  I believe you can use sb_filter to do
>> this, with something like:
>>
>>     python sb_filter.py before.mbx > after.mbx
>
> I set the BAYESCUSTOMIZE environment variable to point to the same
> .ini file that is used by the Windows service; i.e.,
>
> BAYESCUSTOMIZE="C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Application
> Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\bayescustomize.ini"
>
> I get the following error; any suggestions?
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> [...]
> bsddb._db.DBNoSuchFileError: (2, 'No such file or directory')

Have you checked to make sure that hammie.db is in the ...\Proxy  
directory?

You could try specifying the location to the file:

     python sb_filter.py -o "Storage:persistent_storage_file:C: 
\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy 
\hammie.db" -o "Storage:persistent_use_database:dbm" before.mbx >  
after.mbx

(That's all one line; obviously you'll need to change the path if the  
file is elsewhere or has a different name, and change "dbm" to  
"pickle" or "zodb" if those storage backends are used).

=Tony.Meyer

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From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Jan 12 23:40:08 2006
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:40:08 +0100
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes eats my mails
Message-ID: <nyhi6g15of0l$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

Hi,

after having configured IMAP access and the folders (INBOX, "unsure" and
"spam"), I started "sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 5" as outlined in the README.
But in the second run (after 10 minutes), it began to eat my mails, i.e.
marking them as deleted (reproducible). Luckily, I pressed CTRL + C and
saved them from `expunge`.
I am using CVS HEAD.

Any idea why that happens for me?

Kind regards,
Alexander


From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Fri Jan 13 00:28:04 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:28:04 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes eats my mails
In-Reply-To: <nyhi6g15of0l$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
References: <nyhi6g15of0l$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <9CF640E5-2E36-444B-8A58-82ABCCAADD0A@ihug.co.nz>

> after having configured IMAP access and the folders (INBOX,  
> "unsure" and
> "spam"), I started "sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 5" as outlined in the  
> README.
> But in the second run (after 10 minutes), it began to eat my mails,  
> i.e.
> marking them as deleted (reproducible). Luckily, I pressed CTRL + C  
> and
> saved them from `expunge`.
> I am using CVS HEAD.

Email is replaced (because IMAP is a poorly designed protocol which  
does not allow email to be modified), so original versions of the  
email will be deleted *after* new versions (with the classification/ 
other headers added) have been stored.  (Note, too, that these  
messages are only flagged as deleted and that imapfilter does not do  
any expunging of these deleted messages).

If this is not the case, please elaborate, and if at all possible,  
include the output of 'sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -i4' (perhaps changing  
to run through a test folder rather than your inbox).

=Tony.Meyer


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From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Fri Jan 13 18:18:54 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:18:54 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin crash
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0D14@SPIKE.city>

R. K. Coe

  _____  

For as long as I can remember, there has been a trickle of reports of
Spambayes causing hard crashes in Outlook. (I submitted some myself two
or three years ago.) I don't remember whether this particular one has
been reported or not.

Spambayes plugin with Outlook 2002 (Office XP SP3) under Windows Server
2003 SP1. Outlook crashes immediately and blames the crash on Spambayes
when I try to restart. No Spambayes toolbar, nothing in the log;
presumably it doesn't get that far. But in order to get Outlook to
restart, I have to accept Outlook's offer to disable Spambayes. I
reinstalled Spambayes once or twice, which didn't help.

Has anyone gotten Spambayes to run successfully in this configuration?
In fact, has anyone used it at all with WS 2003? This was a newly minted
WS 2003 computer (a Dell Optiplex GX620), and it crashed the first time
(and all subsequent times) I tried to run Outlook/Spambayes. So far,
Outlook runs OK on that machine without Spambayes.

Bob <mailto:rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV>  

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From manxe at cox.net  Fri Jan 13 16:04:24 2006
From: manxe at cox.net (Le Manxe)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:04:24 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] Fw: may Kelley, or biography
Message-ID: <003601c61852$a483be00$640fa8c0@server>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Timoteo Rey" <FdKristeluY at pvtnetworks.net>
To: "Stallworth1" <stallworth1 at cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: may Kelley, or biography


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>
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>
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> Simply fill out this one-minute form...
>
> Don't worry about approval, your credit will not disqualify you!
>
> http://banquet<ozone>dodson.b1k3n1te56.com/bd
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> be seen and done by that confiscable animal  and the wonderful effects he
could
> And hes like Katti  too  said my aunt  decisively  He is very like Stinky
said
> Of all things in the world  aunt  I should like it best
> for nobody stood in any awe of me at all the chambermaid being utterly
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> where I had been leading a romantic life for ages  to a bawling  splashing
> Being then in a pleasant frame of mind from which I infer that poisoning
is not always
> this other contract bargain   Annie  As Mr  Gieschen glanced towards her
sitting at the
> Do I gather from what you say  maam  that Mr  Bentley is ill asked Mr
Pillsworth
> or of not having understood it  or of having shown his condition in spite
of himself  seems to make
>


From wwjd2525 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jan 14 06:15:11 2006
From: wwjd2525 at yahoo.co.uk (Christopher Isaiah Fun)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:15:11 +0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Installation error + Script error
Message-ID: <303ACB4B-A01D-41BA-B90F-82C39D637AAB@yahoo.co.uk>

Hi there,

I'm trying to use part of the SpamBayes system, and combining it with  
fuzzy logic to see what sort of effects I could get.

1. Presently, I'm running my stuff on a mac os 10.4.4 system and when  
i did a python setup.py install, i got this error:

christopher-isaiah-funs-imac-g5:~/desktop/code wwjd2525$ python  
setup.py install
running install
running build
running build_py
running build_scripts
running install_lib
copying build/lib/.DS_Store -> /System/Library/Frameworks/ 
Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages
copying build/lib/spambayes/.DS_Store -> /System/Library/Frameworks/ 
Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes
running install_scripts
copying build/scripts-2.3/sb_bnfilter.py -> /System/Library/ 
Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin
error: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin/ 
sb_bnfilter.py: Permission denied

Any idea what can I do to get around it? I'm really new in all this. =\

2. Also, I tried running a script that was provided in the package,  
called sb_mailsort.py. I did a python sb_mailsort.py -s 19602.elmx  
(where 19602.elmx) is the e-mail I'm trying to classify, and I got this

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "sb_mailsort.py", line 187, in ?
     main()
   File "sb_mailsort.py", line 181, in main
     print_message_score(msg, open(msg))
   File "sb_mailsort.py", line 141, in print_message_score
     bayes = CdbClassifier(open(DB_FILE, 'rb'))
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/Users/ 
wwjd2525/.spambayes/wordprobs.cdb'

Is this due to the fact that I've not installed my spambayes properly?

3. Lastly, (I really appreciate whoever who answers these questions)  
is there python module that specifically tokens a mail and tells me  
how many ham and spam words are in there? How do I train my sb using  
ham and spam corpuses without disturbing any settings on my computer.



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From kyle at micheleguieu.com  Sat Jan 14 06:15:57 2006
From: kyle at micheleguieu.com (Kyle Forbes)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:15:57 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple XP Users Confuses sb_service
Message-ID: <000f01c618c9$9a107220$6401a8c0@CENTURION>

I'm stumped by this problem.  My wife and I use Outlook express, and we each have our own account on our XP machine.  When we both use the sb_tray program, the last one to start it up on his/her account apparently dictates where SpamBayes will retrieve its configuration information.  Seeing this, I decided that maybe the best thing to do was to install the sb_service to provide a central mechanism for filtering spam on our computer.

The service starts automatically, and that seems to work fine.  I can login to either of our accounts and retrieve email.  However, the sb_tray program seems confused.  Whoever runs the program first prevents the other one from running it.  The first person to run it gets an active tray program through which he/she can review messages and configure the server.  If I login to the second account, the sb_tray program doesn't work -- it says SpamBayes isn't running.  Even if I shut down the first user's instance of the tray program, the second user can never seem to get an active connection to the service.  Is this a known bug?  How can two outlook express users review messages via the sb_tray program?

Thanks.

Kyle
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan 14 10:08:37 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:08:37 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Installation error + Script error
In-Reply-To: <303ACB4B-A01D-41BA-B90F-82C39D637AAB@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <303ACB4B-A01D-41BA-B90F-82C39D637AAB@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <69F0282C-9B7C-4C60-B381-9860DA083535@ihug.co.nz>

> when i did a python setup.py install, i got this error:
>
> christopher-isaiah-funs-imac-g5:~/desktop/code wwjd2525$ python  
> setup.py install
> [...]
> error: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin/ 
> sb_bnfilter.py: Permission denied
>
> Any idea what can I do to get around it? I'm really new in all  
> this. =\

A normal user doesn't have permission to write to /System/Library.   
You could:

   1.  Do "sudo python setup.py install" (and give it your  
administrator password when it asks), if you are fine with adding the  
spambayes package to the system-wide Python installation (the build  
script will output what goes where, so you could save that ("sudo  
python setup.py install > install.log") if you wanted to be sure you  
could remove things later.

   2.  Install things elsewhere; this would be particularly good if  
you're likely to use other Python packages in the future, and would  
rather keep the system clean and keep third-party things in (e.g.)  
your home folder.  "python setup.py install --help" gives you  
options; from memory you want something like "python setup.py install  
--root /Users/{username/" to base things in your home directory.   
You'll then have to tell Python where things can be found, by setting  
the environment variable PYTHONPATH to include that location.  (Ask  
if you want more specifics about this).

   3.  You can leave the files wherever they are, and just tell  
Python where they are via the PYTHONPATH environment variable (again,  
ask if you want specifics).  This is certainly the least disruptive,  
since you can then just delete the folder and everything is gone.

> 2. Also, I tried running a script that was provided in the package,  
> called sb_mailsort.py. I did a python sb_mailsort.py -s 19602.elmx  
> (where 19602.elmx) is the e-mail I'm trying to classify,

I expect you will have trouble trying to use elmx files, as they're  
not standard mbox files (which Mail 1.x used, I believe).  They are  
simple to parse, however.  It would be no trouble to add handling  
emlx files to the scripts if you'd like that.

> and I got this
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "sb_mailsort.py", line 187, in ?
>     main()
>   File "sb_mailsort.py", line 181, in main
>     print_message_score(msg, open(msg))
>   File "sb_mailsort.py", line 141, in print_message_score
>     bayes = CdbClassifier(open(DB_FILE, 'rb'))
> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/Users/ 
> wwjd2525/.spambayes/wordprobs.cdb'
>
> Is this due to the fact that I've not installed my spambayes properly?

What were you trying to use sb_mailsort.py for?  IIRC it works with  
CDB databases and Maildir mailboxes; I'm not sure if it's really used  
much by anyone.  Sticking with the regular scripts is probably  
easiest (see below).

> 3. Lastly, (I really appreciate whoever who answers these  
> questions) is there python module that specifically tokens a mail  
> and tells me how many ham and spam words are in there?

The sb_filter script takes a message (or mbox or MH file) and outputs  
the message(s) with an "X-Spambayes-Classification" header, which  
will have a value of "ham", "spam", or "unsure".  You can turn on  
options to have other headers, such as the evidence (tokens) found/ 
used, and so forth.  Is that what you're after?  If you want to just  
tokenize the message, then you'll have to use a custom Python script,  
e.g.:

  >>> from spambayes.tokenizer import tokenize
  >>> print list(tokenize(message_as_string))

Likewise, if you want the tokens and their scores:

  >>> from spambayes.tokenizer import tokenize
  >>> from spambayes.storage import open_storage
  >>> c = open_storage("~/.hammiedb", "dbm")
  >>> score, tokens = c.spamprob(tokenize(message_as_string), True)

[all untested, but it should be right]

> How do I train my sb using ham and spam corpuses without disturbing  
> any settings on my computer.

How do you get your mail?  From the reference to emlx files, I  
presume you're using Mail.  Are you connecting with Mail to one or  
more POP servers?  One or more IMAP servers?  Or something more  
unix'y, like using fetchmail?  (For POP3, then using sb_server.py (a  
POP3 proxy) is the best idea, for IMAP, then sb_imapfilter.py, for  
unix'y things, probably sb_mboxtrain.py and sb_filter.py).

=Tony.Meyer

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From dburkdburk at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 14 15:21:40 2006
From: dburkdburk at hotmail.com (Danny Burk)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:21:40 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
References: <BAY102-DAV14B44350DE2FAF85BADB0DCF210@phx.gbl>
	<4F617638-3244-4AC1-BBF8-32A500CD9D31@ihug.co.nz>
	<BAY102-DAV474F3B2488833577486A6CF200@phx.gbl>
	<F40BAEC1-2302-4973-8CCF-683D2162B688@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV9FAAADB7303FCA66F3F90CF190@phx.gbl>

Hi Tony:

I wondered whether you had any suggetions on what further steps I can take
to get this wonderful product working again. To recap:

I'm using:
XP Professional SP2
Office 2003 SP2
SpamBayes 1.0.4

Outlook 2002 and SpamBayes were working wonderfully together.

This problem seems to have been around from the very start of when I loaded
Outlook 2003 (about 1 month ago).
SpamBayes is still sorting messages (pretty accurately) in Outlook 2003, but
when I click on anything in the SpamBayes toolbar, Outlook ends with a nice
message asking me if I want to send a report to Microsoft. When Outlook
reloads, if I had clicked on "Delete as Spam" or "Remove from Spam",
whatever I clicked on worked for the highlighted messages (they were in fact
reclassified). When I try to get into the SpamBayes menu (to retrain, for
example), as soon as I click on "SpamBayes" on the toolbar, Outlook shuts
down.

I have uninstalled SpamBayes.
I ran Detect and Repair on Outlook.
I reinstalled SpamBayes.
No change in the symptoms.

I also changed the setting in DEP to "Turn on DEP for all programs and
services except..." and then listed Outlook.exe as my only exception. After
I rebooted, same result with Outlook and SpamBayes.

Is there any additional information I can give you or anything else I should
try?

Thank you!

Danny Burk
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
To: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem


>>>>> Anytime I click on anything on the toolbar including the option  to
>>>>> configure
>>>>> Spambayes, Outlook shuts down.
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried the suggestions in the Troubleshooting Guide?
>>
>> Yes I have. I've uninstalled, reinstalled, disabled and reinabled  in
>> Outlook. I've turned DEP on for all programs and put Outlook in  as not
>> being included.
>
> Did you try the toolbar specific suggestions, such as deleting
> outcmd.dat?  What about doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook?
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>
>
>

From dburkdburk at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 14 15:37:26 2006
From: dburkdburk at hotmail.com (Danny Burk)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:37:26 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV15EED90DBEF3A4E215C567CF190@phx.gbl>

Hi again Tony:

Since my first email 10 minutes ago, I tried two more things. One game me an 
interesting result.

1) If I don't have any mail message highlighted and I click on "Delete As 
Spam", I get the normal error message ("No filterable mail selected" or 
something like that) before Outlook shuts down.

2) I changed the DEP settings again ("Turn on DEP for all programs and 
services except..." and listed Outlook.exe as my only exception). After 
making the change and rebooting, I uninstalled SpamBayes and then 
reinstalled it. Same shutdown result. Interesting result when I uninstalled 
SpamBayes: the toolbar was still there on the list of possible toolbars and 
when I clicked on it, I still got the shutdown (this is with SpamBayes 
UNinstalled! I reinstalled SpamBayes and then disabled the COM Add-in for 
SpamBayes. The toolbar disappeared. Then I uninstalled again and 
reinstalled. The toolbar appears when it should now, but the shutdown is 
continuing.

Just thought I'd add some more curiosities to see if we can get this thing 
fixed!

Thank you.

Danny Burk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
To: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem


> Hi Tony:
>
> I wondered whether you had any suggetions on what further steps I can take
> to get this wonderful product working again. To recap:
>
> I'm using:
> XP Professional SP2
> Office 2003 SP2
> SpamBayes 1.0.4
>
> Outlook 2002 and SpamBayes were working wonderfully together.
>
> This problem seems to have been around from the very start of when I 
> loaded
> Outlook 2003 (about 1 month ago).
> SpamBayes is still sorting messages (pretty accurately) in Outlook 2003, 
> but
> when I click on anything in the SpamBayes toolbar, Outlook ends with a 
> nice
> message asking me if I want to send a report to Microsoft. When Outlook
> reloads, if I had clicked on "Delete as Spam" or "Remove from Spam",
> whatever I clicked on worked for the highlighted messages (they were in 
> fact
> reclassified). When I try to get into the SpamBayes menu (to retrain, for
> example), as soon as I click on "SpamBayes" on the toolbar, Outlook shuts
> down.
>
> I have uninstalled SpamBayes.
> I ran Detect and Repair on Outlook.
> I reinstalled SpamBayes.
> No change in the symptoms.
>
> I also changed the setting in DEP to "Turn on DEP for all programs and
> services except..." and then listed Outlook.exe as my only exception. 
> After
> I rebooted, same result with Outlook and SpamBayes.
>
> Is there any additional information I can give you or anything else I 
> should
> try?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Danny Burk
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
> To: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
>
>
>>>>>> Anytime I click on anything on the toolbar including the option  to
>>>>>> configure
>>>>>> Spambayes, Outlook shuts down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried the suggestions in the Troubleshooting Guide?
>>>
>>> Yes I have. I've uninstalled, reinstalled, disabled and reinabled  in
>>> Outlook. I've turned DEP on for all programs and put Outlook in  as not
>>> being included.
>>
>> Did you try the toolbar specific suggestions, such as deleting
>> outcmd.dat?  What about doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook?
>>
>> =Tony.Meyer
>>
>> -- 
>> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
>> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
>> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>>
>>
>>
> 

From jmknight1 at comcast.net  Sat Jan 14 15:42:33 2006
From: jmknight1 at comcast.net (Michael Knight)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:42:33 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express "Train on a message,
	mbox file or dbx file" Does not Work
Message-ID: <003301c61918$c1a78a90$0302a8c0@your4105e587b6>

I've read the FAQ, looked through the web site, and Googled for help with no results.

A good e-mail gets flagged as "unsure at spambayes.invalid" and goes to the Possible Junk folder.  I move it to a folder named "Good Mail".  From the home page, I browse to the location of the "Good Mail" dbx file and select it.  I click "Train As Ham".  The web page indicates "Training... Saving...Done".

When I return to the home page, the "Total emails trained" count has not changed.

Should the total emals trained increase by 1, or is there something wrong?

Thanks in advance for any help,
Mike
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sun Jan 15 05:03:42 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:03:42 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Installation error + Script error
In-Reply-To: <8DDCDA6C-BED5-45C8-A6C8-F086E719AAFF@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <303ACB4B-A01D-41BA-B90F-82C39D637AAB@yahoo.co.uk>
	<69F0282C-9B7C-4C60-B381-9860DA083535@ihug.co.nz>
	<8DDCDA6C-BED5-45C8-A6C8-F086E719AAFF@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <DA0D82EC-EA1C-4B4A-86B3-94DBBD7DB197@ihug.co.nz>

> [...]
> You do not have a dbm module available to use.  You need to either  
> use a pickle (see the FAQ), use Python 2.3 (or above), or install a  
> dbm module such as bsddb (see http://sf.net/projects/pybsddb).

This is a result of this bug:

[ 1106457 ] bsddb185 has to be covered in dbmstorage.py
(fixed in CVS)

I think; at least, when I try the various dbm modules here (OS X  
10.4.4) only bsddb185 works.

The simplest way around this would be to simply use a pickle for  
storage, rather than one of the dbm modules.

     sb_filter.py -p ~/.hammie.pik message.mbox

Alternatively, you could install Python 2.4 (the Mac package (at  
least the one I used) includes bsddb), or the bsddb module, or ZODB  
(ask if you'd like instructions for any of these).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sun Jan 15 05:17:50 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:17:50 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express "Train on a message,
	mbox file or dbx file" Does not Work
In-Reply-To: <003301c61918$c1a78a90$0302a8c0@your4105e587b6>
References: <003301c61918$c1a78a90$0302a8c0@your4105e587b6>
Message-ID: <E59DB0BB-0F99-47C7-A0F8-D6565B4C4FAC@ihug.co.nz>

> A good e-mail gets flagged as "unsure at spambayes.invalid" and goes  
> to the Possible Junk folder.
> I move it to a folder named "Good Mail".  >From the home page, I  
> browse to the location of
> the "Good Mail" dbx file and select it.  I click "Train As Ham".   
> The web page indicates
> "Training... Saving...Done".

To train, click the "Review" link on the main page and follow through  
the pages that follow.  You should never need to use the "Train" box  
on the main page.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From deannamitchell at charter.net  Sun Jan 15 15:31:42 2006
From: deannamitchell at charter.net (Deanna)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:31:42 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject)
Message-ID: <000f01c619e0$6836d330$6401a8c0@yourpd3mh0abgs>

I am trying to download this, but am unsure how. I have Outlook 2005. Can you help me here. Thanks
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From george_breslauer at charter.net  Sun Jan 15 15:35:15 2006
From: george_breslauer at charter.net (george_breslauer at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:35:15 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Unable to Review Messages for
	Training
Message-ID: <4mmi87$jna96n@mxip26a.cluster1.charter.net>

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I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary),
with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb  8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit
(Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service
Pack 2).  I have trained 0 ham and 9 spam.

The problem I am having is that Spambayes does not appear to be
allowing me to train automatically through the Review Messages page.
When I go to the Review page, it tells me: "There are no untrained
messages to display." The only way I seem to be able to achieve the
training, appears to be to copy and paste the message source
(including headers), into the "Train on a message, mbox file or dbx
file" field. This is how I trained the exisitng 9 spam messages, which
I had to do individually.

Is there something I've neglected to setup or is there a way of
overcoming this?

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give me.

George Breslauer

From mzmetzger at comcast.net  Sun Jan 15 21:25:34 2006
From: mzmetzger at comcast.net (Michzael Z. Metzger, dpm)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:25:34 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject)
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAC3WHfHkjzUW5xzsg+J4i6sKAAAAQAAAAjZciPuQUxkaePPZoGH8hXgEAAAAA@comcast.net>

I cannot find help for this at the troubleshooting guide.
I cannot use the rescue from spam or delete as span toolbar.  Nothing
happens when I try to move the message.
 
Michael
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From mzmetzger at comcast.net  Sun Jan 15 21:24:37 2006
From: mzmetzger at comcast.net (Michzael Z. Metzger, dpm)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:24:37 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject)
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAC3WHfHkjzUW5xzsg+J4i6sKAAAAQAAAAgMQvq0yPNkGhD1SDE3agkAEAAAAA@comcast.net>

I cannot use the rescue from spam or delete as span toolbar.  Nothing
happens when I try to move the message.
 
Michael
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From bposert at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 17 07:13:03 2006
From: bposert at yahoo.com (bob posert)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:13:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spambayes] Training on unusual ham - any ideas?
Message-ID: <20060117061303.51904.qmail@web50515.mail.yahoo.com>

 Spambayes is great; I love it; can't say  enough good things.  I was going crazy with > 100 spams per day  and this has saved my sanity.  My family thanks you too - I'm in a  much better mood now!
  
  I wonder if you have any ideas on how to deal with one issue.  I  subscribe to a book review email list.  The recommendations on the  list are unlike any other mail I get.  I've been getting this for  about a year and always have to recover it  from spam - it's so unlike anything else I get that spambayes doesn't  classify it the way I would like.
  
  Notes: To make it even more difficult for SpamBayes, often sex is mentioned.  It's a grown-up review, but not an adult review.  You can see a sample at www.boldtype.com; then click on current. 
  
  Any ideas on how to get around this?
  
  Thanks again for a great program,
  Bob
  

		
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From syndi.bruchesky at thelawrencegroup.com  Tue Jan 17 15:55:03 2006
From: syndi.bruchesky at thelawrencegroup.com (Syndi Bruchesky)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:55:03 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] please remove my last name.
Message-ID: <CFF81BAEA4466F4698C0D22680963B20019606BA@lg-stl10.lga.local>

Hi I just did a google search of my full name, and this came up.

 

Spambayes] no filterable mail items selected.
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-November/015306.html> 
Bruchesky, Syndi SBruchesky at indoff1.com Wed Nov 17 21:19:26 CET 2004.
Previous message: [Spambayes] Re: How to recover spam to a specific ham
folder ...
mail.python.org/pipermail/ spambayes/2004-November/015306.html - 5k - 
Cached
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Similar pages
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=related:mail.python.org/piperm
ail/spambayes/2004-November/015306.html> 

 

Would you please remove my last name from this message or any other
messages I've posted.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

Syndi Bruchesky

IT Support Svc. Mgr.

The Lawrence Group

 

 

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From jsp at PKC.com  Tue Jan 17 16:28:24 2006
From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:28:24 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] please remove my last name.
Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04604@PKCVT01.pkc.com>

This simply is not possible, by design. When you post to a public
mailing list, it's, well, public, and your messages may be (and
generally are) copied to multiple archives. Those archives are not under
the control of the SpamBayes developers, and it is not possible to
locate every copy of your messages. That's why, if you go to the
SpamBayes contact page (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/contact.html),
you'll see the following warning:
 
"There are currently five mailing lists of interest. All lists are
public, and all are publicly archived. This is normal practice for
open-source projects, and you should be aware that all email sent to one
of these addresses will be visible to the world."
 
So, the cat is unfortunately out of the bag. In the future, do not post
to public lists if you wish to hide your name. Note that if you send
private messages to developers, they may post a reply to a public list
if they think the information in the exchange might help someone else.
You can ask them not to do that, but they may reasonably decline to
reply at all in that case.
 
There are anonymous email services (search Google for "anonymous email"
for a selection) that can help skirt these issues.



________________________________

	From: spambayes-bounces at python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Syndi Bruchesky
	Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:55 AM
	To: spambayes at python.org
	Subject: [Spambayes] please remove my last name.
	
	

	Hi I just did a google search of my full name, and this came up.

	 

	Spambayes] no filterable mail items selected.
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-November/015306.html> 
	Bruchesky, Syndi SBruchesky at indoff1.com Wed Nov 17 21:19:26
CET 2004.
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5k - Cached
<http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:1OqCZL2rtNkJ:mail.python.org/piperm
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	Would you please remove my last name from this message or any
other messages I've posted.

	 

	Thank you for your help.

	 

	Syndi Bruchesky

	IT Support Svc. Mgr.

	The Lawrence Group

	 

	 

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From tim.peters at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 16:42:13 2006
From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:42:13 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] please remove my last name.
In-Reply-To: <CFF81BAEA4466F4698C0D22680963B20019606BA@lg-stl10.lga.local>
References: <CFF81BAEA4466F4698C0D22680963B20019606BA@lg-stl10.lga.local>
Message-ID: <1f7befae0601170742w58211d9dqea43c34e548d34e5@mail.gmail.com>

> Hi I just did a google search of my full name, and this came up.
> ...
> Would you please remove my last name from this message or any other
> messages I've posted.

I'm sorry, but we have no more ability to alter public archives than
you have.  As it says:

    http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/contact.html

    There are currently five mailing lists of interest. All lists are
public, and
    all are publicly archived. This is normal practice for open-source projects,
    and you should be aware that all email sent to one of these addresses
    will be visible to the world:

    ...

We have no access to the machines that run the mailing list software,
and it's flatly impossible for us to change any part of the archives. 
You should be aware that public archives are also copied all over the
web, by anyone who feels like doing so.

I understand that you're unlikely to be satisfied with this response,
but it's the best I can do.  In future, don't post to public mailing
lists if you want your messages to be private (and don't use email at
all if you're seriously concerned about privacy --  email is an
inherently insecure medium).

From Rich at RBarger.com  Tue Jan 17 16:35:06 2006
From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:35:06 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] please remove my last name.
References: <CFF81BAEA4466F4698C0D22680963B20019606BA@lg-stl10.lga.local>
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From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Tue Jan 17 17:47:48 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:47:48 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] please remove my last name.
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0D5F@SPIKE.city>

That's a bit like letting the gas out of a helium balloon and then
asking the Weather Channel to help you get it back. But one thing
puzzles me: If Ms Buchesky was already embarrassed that the original
message put her name into the public domain, why did her subsequent plea
(to the same public list) include a v-card containing not only her name,
but her address and phone number as well?! Keep in mind that she runs
the help desk in an IT department! 

Bob 

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]
On Behalf Of Syndi Bruchesky
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:55 AM
To: spambayes at python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] please remove my last name.



Hi I just did a google search of my full name, and this came up.

 

 <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-November/015306.html>
Spambayes] no filterable mail items selected.
Bruchesky, Syndi SBruchesky at indoff1.com Wed Nov 17 21:19:26 CET 2004.
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folder ...
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<http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:1OqCZL2rtNkJ:mail.python.org/piperm
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<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=related:mail.python.org/piperm
ail/spambayes/2004-November/015306.html> Similar pages

 

Would you please remove my last name from this message or any other
messages I've posted.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

Syndi Bruchesky

IT Support Svc. Mgr.

The Lawrence Group

 

 

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From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Tue Jan 17 18:26:46 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:26:46 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin crash
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0D65@SPIKE.city>

Can someone with a knowledge of the plugin code tell me whether it
violates the modern fad of scrupulously avoiding the execution of data?
Old-time coders like me used to do it all the time. (You can get away
with it even in recursive and reentrant programs if you're careful.) But
it's considered a security risk today, and the GX620 has a
factory-preset BIOS option to prevent it. During the weekend, after I
sent my original note, I found a program that wouldn't run on my
computer until I disabled that option. I'm wondering now whether I ought
to make another run at Spambayes with the option turned off. Any advice
for me?

Bob 

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]
On Behalf Of Coe, Bob
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:19 PM
To: spambayes at python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin crash



R. K. Coe

  _____  

For as long as I can remember, there has been a trickle of reports of
Spambayes causing hard crashes in Outlook. (I submitted some myself two
or three years ago.) I don't remember whether this particular one has
been reported or not.

Spambayes plugin with Outlook 2002 (Office XP SP3) under Windows Server
2003 SP1. Outlook crashes immediately and blames the crash on Spambayes
when I try to restart. No Spambayes toolbar, nothing in the log;
presumably it doesn't get that far. But in order to get Outlook to
restart, I have to accept Outlook's offer to disable Spambayes. I
reinstalled Spambayes once or twice, which didn't help.

Has anyone gotten Spambayes to run successfully in this configuration?
In fact, has anyone used it at all with WS 2003? This was a newly minted
WS 2003 computer (a Dell Optiplex GX620), and it crashed the first time
(and all subsequent times) I tried to run Outlook/Spambayes. So far,
Outlook runs OK on that machine without Spambayes.

Bob <mailto:rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV>  

MIS Department, City <http://www.cambridgema.gov/>  of Cambridge
831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139  *  617-349-4217  *  fax
617-349-6165

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From tim.peters at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 18:38:09 2006
From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:38:09 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] please remove my last name.
In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0D5F@SPIKE.city>
References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0D5F@SPIKE.city>
Message-ID: <1f7befae0601170938q46b539c2wf1d1d6c0be2b452c@mail.gmail.com>

[Coe, Bob]
> That's a bit like letting the gas out of a helium balloon and then asking
> the Weather Channel to help you get it back. But one thing puzzles me: If Ms
> [OP's name] was already embarrassed that the original message put her name into
> the public domain, why did her subsequent plea (to the same public list)
> include a v-card containing not only her name, but her address and phone
> number as well?! Keep in mind that she runs the help desk in an IT
> department!

It was an addressing mistake, just forgetting to add the "-owner" suffix.

From tim.peters at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 18:55:24 2006
From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:55:24 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin crash
In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0D65@SPIKE.city>
References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0D65@SPIKE.city>
Message-ID: <1f7befae0601170955t7b316e74p2bdb8591c2132a89@mail.gmail.com>

[Coe, Bob]
> Can someone with a knowledge of the plugin code tell me whether it violates
> the modern fad of scrupulously avoiding the execution of data? Old-time
> coders like me used to do it all the time. (You can get away with it even in
> recursive and reentrant programs if you're careful.) But it's considered a
> security risk today, and the GX620 has a factory-preset BIOS option to
> prevent it. During the weekend, after I sent my original note, I found a
> program that wouldn't run on my computer until I disabled that option. I'm
> wondering now whether I ought to make another run at Spambayes with the
> option turned off. Any advice for me?

Python never executes data, but _something_ invoked when SpamBayes
runs does.  There are long discussions of this on the SB bug tracker,
but SourceForge appears to be hosed at the moment so I can't get a
reference for you now.  Look for bug 988095.

It's definitely worth trying SB with the option disabled.

From tim.peters at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 22:43:36 2006
From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:43:36 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Training on unusual ham - any ideas?
In-Reply-To: <20060117061303.51904.qmail@web50515.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20060117061303.51904.qmail@web50515.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1f7befae0601171343x57b0defex5faf973f21f5f6a7@mail.gmail.com>

[bob posert]
>  Spambayes is great; I love it; can't say enough good things.  I was going
> crazy with > 100 spams per day and this has saved my sanity.  My family
> thanks you too - I'm in a much better mood now!

It is a lot better than suicide ;-)

> I wonder if you have any ideas on how to deal with one issue.  I subscribe
> to a book review email list.  The recommendations on the list are unlike any
> other mail I get.  I've been getting this for about a year and always have
> to recover it from spam - it's so unlike anything else I get that spambayes
> doesn't classify it the way I would like.
>
>  Notes: To make it even more difficult for SpamBayes, often sex is
> mentioned.  It's a grown-up review, but not an adult review.  You can see a
> sample at www.boldtype.com; then click on current.
>
>  Any ideas on how to get around this?

There is no way to know why a message scores as it does without
looking at the "spam clues".  Generate those for one of these
messages, and share them here.  There are many features in the sample
at www.boldtype.com that _should_ score as strong ham clues, provided
you've trained on previous email of this kind as ham, but it's not
possible to guess why those aren't working for you without seeing the
spam clues generated from your training database.

From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Wed Jan 18 14:19:18 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:19:18 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin crash
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0DAA@SPIKE.city>

Aha!! That was it! After Tim's encouragement, I tried Spambayes again
with the data execution prohibition disabled, and it worked.

Maybe some of the other reported crashes have a similar origin. But my
own experience suggests that other Windows apps have similar problems
with the option, which I suspect will lead most people not to use it.
Maybe other manufacturers won't adopt it anyway.

Alas, I dug myself another hole while working on Spambayes last night.
I'll seek help for that one in a separate message.

Bob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.peters at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:55 PM
> To: Coe, Bob
> Cc: spambayes at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin crash
> 
> 
> [Coe, Bob]
> > Can someone with a knowledge of the plugin code tell me whether it 
> > violates the modern fad of scrupulously avoiding the execution of 
> > data? Old-time coders like me used to do it all the time. (You can
get 
> > away with it even in recursive and reentrant programs if you're 
> > careful.) But it's considered a security risk today, and the GX620
has 
> > a factory-preset BIOS option to prevent it. During the weekend,
after 
> > I sent my original note, I found a program that wouldn't run on my 
> > computer until I disabled that option. I'm wondering now whether I 
> > ought to make another run at Spambayes with the option turned off.
Any 
> > advice for me?
> 
> Python never executes data, but _something_ invoked when 
> SpamBayes runs does.  There are long discussions of this on 
> the SB bug tracker, but SourceForge appears to be hosed at 
> the moment so I can't get a reference for you now.  Look for 
> bug 988095.
> 
> It's definitely worth trying SB with the option disabled.
> 

From dave at boost-consulting.com  Wed Jan 18 15:30:38 2006
From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:30:38 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] [sb_imapfilter] Bad FETCH response
Message-ID: <87y81d4nht.fsf@boost-consulting.com>


Can anyone help me out with this?  This is after recently upgrading
SpamBayes to the latest CVS.

  Loading state from /usr/home/dave/hammie.new.db database
  /usr/home/dave/hammie.new.db is a new database
  Loading database /usr/home/dave/hammie.new.db... Done.
  Account: www.stlport.com:993
  Training
     Training ham folder HamBox
  Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/home/dave/src/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py", line 1283, in ?
      run()
    File "/usr/home/dave/src/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py", line 1261, in run
      imap_filter.Train()
    File "/usr/home/dave/src/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py", line 1004, in Train
      num_trained = folder.Train(self.classifier, is_spam)
    File "/usr/home/dave/src/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py", line 888, in Train
      for msg in self:
    File "/usr/home/dave/src/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py", line 799, in __iter__
      yield self[key]
    File "/usr/home/dave/src/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py", line 831, in __getitem__
      data = self.imap_server.extract_fetch_data(response_data)
    File "/usr/home/dave/src/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py", line 455, in extract_fetch_data
      msg_data = self._extract_fetch_data(msg)
    File "/usr/home/dave/src/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py", line 428, in _extract_fetch_data
      raise BadIMAPResponseError("FETCH response", response)
  __main__.BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'FETCH response' failed to give an OK response.
  (' UID 1967)',)

Thanks!

-- 
Dave Abrahams
Boost Consulting
www.boost-consulting.com


From Michael at safarinow.com  Wed Jan 18 14:00:40 2006
From: Michael at safarinow.com (Michael Martin)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:00:40 +0200
Subject: [Spambayes] Score Interpretation
Message-ID: <2F9C0F35271ACE42AC30CED4647BBBB65E6B30@platboom.safarinow.local>

Hello there,
 
I am having trouble interpreting the score from the spam clues. The
information is listed below. How do I tell if the mail will be marked as
spam or not? Many thanks for your help.
 

Combined Score: 0% (1.32361e-005)


Internal ham score (*H*): 0.999974
Internal spam score (*S*): 2.10942e-015

# ham trained on: 1
# spam trained on: 0


33 Significant Tokens

token                               spamprob         #ham  #spam
'_____'                             0.155172            1      0
'about'                             0.155172            1      0
'cc:none'                           0.155172            1      0
'content-type:text/plain'           0.155172            1      0
'email addr:safarinow.com'          0.155172            1      0
'from:'                             0.155172            1      0
'header:Subject:1'                  0.155172            1      0
'header:To:1'                       0.155172            1      0
'message'                           0.155172            1      0
'not'                               0.155172            1      0
'other'                             0.155172            1      0
'please'                            0.155172            1      0
'process'                           0.155172            1      0
'proto:http'                        0.155172            1      0
'reply-to:none'                     0.155172            1      0
'sender:none'                       0.155172            1      0
'sent:'                             0.155172            1      0
'skip:s 10'                         0.155172            1      0
'subject:'                          0.155172            1      0
'subject: '                         0.155172            1      0
'subject:: '                        0.155172            1      0
'the'                               0.155172            1      0
'this'                              0.155172            1      0
'to:'                               0.155172            1      0
'to:2**0'                           0.155172            1      0
'to:addr:michael'                   0.155172            1      0
'url:org'                           0.155172            1      0
'url:rec-html40'                    0.155172            1      0
'url:tr'                            0.155172            1      0
'url:w3'                            0.155172            1      0
'url:www'                           0.155172            1      0
'you'                               0.155172            1      0
'your'                              0.155172            1      0

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<p><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
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online<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h1>
 
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><a
href="http://www.safarinow.com/engine/myaccount.aspx?tab=Seller&amp;i=jU
FF2LNo2mGB72xmCbmnGA%3d%3d&amp;r=74026"
target="_blank">http://www.safarinow.com/engine/myaccount.aspx?tab=Selle
r&amp;i=jUFF2LNo2mGB72xmCbmnGA%3d%3d&amp;r=21283</a></span></font><font
size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'><br>
<br>
<strong><b><font face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'>If the
above
link doesn't work for you:</span></font></b></strong> simply go to
<strong><b><font
face=Verdana><span
style='font-family:Verdana'>http://www.safarinow.com</span></font></b></
strong>.
If you're not automatically logged on, click '<strong><b><font
face=Verdana><span
style='font-family:Verdana'>LOGON</span></font></b></strong>' in the top
right
corner, and enter your email and password.</span></font><font size=1
color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
 
<h2><b><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;
color:black'>For your reference<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h2>
 
<ul type=disc>
 <li class=MsoNormal
style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=1 color=black
face=Verdana><span
     style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Your <b><span
     style='font-weight:bold'>SafariNow.com Enquiry Number</span></b> is
<b><span
 
style='font-weight:bold'>376710.</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></font></li
>
</ul>
 
<h2><b><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;
color:black'>How SafariNow.com's online booking service
works<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h2>
 
<ul type=disc>
 <li class=MsoNormal
style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><font size=1 color=black
face=Verdana><span
     style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Interact with the
Customer
     directly via the SafariNow.com
website.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal
style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><font size=1 color=black
face=Verdana><span
     style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>If the Customer makes a
     booking, SafariNow.com will process the deposit payment and
thereafter put
     you and the Customer in contact with each other
directly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ul>
 
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p
></span></font></p>
 
<table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
 bgcolor="#FFCC66" style='background:#FFCC66;border-collapse:collapse'>
 <tr>
  <td style='border:dashed windowtext 3.0pt;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt
3.75pt'>
  <p><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
  color:black'><img border=0 width=22 height=17 id="_x0000_i1027"
  src="http://www.safarinow.com/misc/hand.gif" align=absmiddle>&nbsp;
<strong><b><font
  face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'>WHAT
NOW?</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=1
color=black
  face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>To
  submit a quote or view the enquiry <a
 
href="http://www.safarinow.com/engine/seller/viewenquiry.aspx?e=376710&a
mp;i=jUFF2LNo2mGB72xmCbmnGA%3d%3d"
  target="_blank"><strong><b><font face=Verdana><span
style='font-family:Verdana'>CLICK
  HERE</span></font></b></strong></a><br>
  <br>
  For queries regarding <strong><b><font face=Verdana><span
style='font-family:
  Verdana'>enquiry 376710</span></font></b></strong> please contact
Jacqui
  Goodwin (<a
href="mailto:jacqui at safarinow.com">jacqui at safarinow.com</a>)<br>
  <br>
  For queries about your SafariNow.com web page contact Hazel Tutt (<a
 
href="mailto:hazelt at safarinow.com">hazelt at safarinow.com</a>)<o:p></o:p><
/span></font></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
</table>
 
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=1 color=black
face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><br>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Regards,<br>
<br>
The SafariNow.com Team </span></i><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
 
<table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
 style='border-collapse:collapse'>
 <tr>
  <td width=30 style='width:22.5pt;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><font size=1
  color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
  color:black'><img border=0 width=14 height=11 id="_x0000_i1028"
 
src="http://www.safarinow.com/company/contact-us/email.gif"><o:p></o:p><
/span></font></p>
  </td>
  <td style='padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><a
 
href="mailto:info at safarinow.com">info at safarinow.com</a><o:p></o:p></span
></font></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td style='padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><font size=1
  color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
  color:black'><img border=0 width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1029"
 
src="http://www.safarinow.com/company/contact-us/phone.gif"><o:p></o:p><
/span></font></p>
  </td>
  <td nowrap style='padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>27 (0)21
7838040<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td style='padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><font size=1
  color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
  color:black'><img border=0 width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1030"
 
src="http://www.safarinow.com/company/contact-us/fax.gif"><o:p></o:p></s
pan></font></p>
  </td>
  <td style='padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
  style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>27 (0)21
7833626<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
</table>
 
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p
></span></font></p>
 
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=1
color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'><img border=0 width=569 height=2 id="_x0000_i1031"
src="http://www.safarinow.com/site/images/22.gif"><br>
<br>
SafariNow.com : Book accommodation in <st1:place w:st="on">Southern
Africa</st1:place>
- widest choice and best service<br>
<br>
<strong><b><font face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'>Office
hours</span></font></b></strong>:
Monday to Friday, 08h30 - 17h00 (GMT+2)<br>
<br>
<img border=0 width=140 height=57 id="_x0000_i1032"
src="http://www.safarinow.com/site/images/defaultmediumlogo.gif"><o:p></
o:p></span></font></p>
 
</div>
 
</body>
 
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All Message Tokens


193 unique tokens

"'logon'"
'(0)21'
'(376710)'
'(gmt+2)'
'08h30'
'10:32'
'17h00'
'2006'
'376710'
'376710.'
'7833626'
'7838040'
'_____'
'about'
'above'
'africa'
'and'
'apartments'
'apartments.'
'automated'
'below'
'best'
'book'
'booking'
'booking,'
'cc:none'
'charles'
'choice'
'click'
'contact'
'content-type:text/plain'
'corner,'
'customer'
'deals'
'dear'
'deposit'
'destinations'
'directly'
'directly.'
"doesn't"
'each'
'email'
'email addr:safarinow.com'
'email addr:safarinow.com)'
'email name:(hazelt'
'email name:(jacqui'
'email name:info'
'enquiry'
'enter'
'for'
'friday,'
'from'
'from:'
'from:none'
'goodwin'
'goredema'
'have'
'hazel'
'header:Subject:1'
'header:To:1'
'here'
'high'
'home'
'hours:'
'how'
'importance:'
'interact'
'jacqui'
'january'
'link'
'logged'
'makes'
'message'
'message-id:invalid'
'monday'
'myaccount'
'new'
'not'
'now?'
'number'
'office'
'on,'
'online'
'other'
'page'
'password.'
'payment'
'petra'
'please'
'process'
'proto:http'
'put'
'queries'
'quote'
'received'
'reference'
'regarding'
'regards,'
'reply-to:none'
'right'
'search'
'sender:none'
'sent:'
'service'
'simply'
'skip:& 30'
'skip:( 10'
'skip:a 10'
'skip:s 10'
'southern'
'special'
'subject:'
'subject: '
'subject: ('
'subject:) '
'subject:-'
'subject:376710'
'subject:: '
'subject:Apartments'
'subject:Charles'
'subject:Enquiry'
'subject:Goredema'
'subject:New'
'subject:Unicadia'
'subject:catering'
'subject:for'
'subject:from'
'subject:self'
'submit'
'team'
'the'
'thereafter'
'this'
'to:'
'to:2**0'
'to:addr:michael'
'to:no real name:2**0'
'top'
'tutt'
'unicadia'
'url:21283'
'url:22'
'url:376710'
'url:74026'
'url:accommodation_cape_town'
'url:accommodation_south_africa'
'url:amp'
'url:aspx'
'url:com'
'url:company'
'url:contact-us'
'url:defaultmediumlogo'
'url:destinations'
'url:e'
'url:email'
'url:engine'
'url:fax'
'url:gif'
'url:hand'
'url:i'
'url:images'
'url:juff2lno2mgb72xmcbmnga%3d%3d'
'url:misc'
'url:myaccount'
'url:org'
'url:phone'
'url:r'
'url:rec-html40'
'url:safarinow'
'url:search'
'url:seller'
'url:site'
'url:specials'
'url:tab'
'url:tr'
'url:viewenquiry'
'url:w3'
'url:www'
'via'
'view'
'web'
'website.'
'what'
'widest'
'will'
'with'
'work'
'works'
'x-mailer:none'
'you'
"you're"
'you:'
'your'

 
 
 
Kind regards,

 

Michael Martin

 

Technical Support - SafariNow.com

 

Phone:                   +27 21 783 8055

Fax:                       +27 21 783 3626

Email:                    michael at safarinow.com 

 
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From jsp at PKC.com  Wed Jan 18 16:39:10 2006
From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:39:10 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Score Interpretation
Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04611@PKCVT01.pkc.com>

You're welcome. I should have copied my response to the list so others
know you've been answered, soI'm doing so now.


________________________________

	From: Michael Martin [mailto:Michael at safarinow.com] 
	Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:23 AM
	To: Jesse Pelton
	Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Score Interpretation
	
	

	Thanks for the info Jesse :-)

	 

	
________________________________


	From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] 
	Sent: 18 January 2006 05:22 PM
	To: Michael Martin
	Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Score Interpretation

	 

	The combined score indicates the probability that this message
is spam. It's 0% in this case, which is as ham as it gets. The internal
ham score (99.9974%) indicates the degree of hamminess of the tokens in
the message, and the internal spam score (0.000000000000210942%, if I've
done my math right) indicates the spamminess of the tokens. Each token
has a probability that it is spam or ham based on how often it occurs in
each type of message.

	 

	If you want to know how the values in the spamprob column are
calculated, someone more knowledgeable than I will have to answer.

	 

	This appears to be a message that your company has sent. If you
want to know whether it will be classified as spam on someone else's
machine, the answer is a definite "maybe". It depends on how SpamBayes
is trained on each machine.

		 

		
________________________________


		From: spambayes-bounces at python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Michael Martin
		Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:01 AM
		To: spambayes at python.org
		Subject: [Spambayes] Score Interpretation

		Hello there,

		 

		I am having trouble interpreting the score from the spam
clues. The information is listed below. How do I tell if the mail will
be marked as spam or not? Many thanks for your help.

		 


		Combined Score: 0% (1.32361e-005)


		Internal ham score (*H*): 0.999974
		Internal spam score (*S*): 2.10942e-015
		
		# ham trained on: 1
		# spam trained on: 0


		33 Significant Tokens

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#ham  #spam
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1      0
		'about'                             0.155172
1      0
		'cc:none'                           0.155172
1      0
		'content-type:text/plain'           0.155172
1      0
		'email addr:safarinow.com'          0.155172
1      0
		'from:'                             0.155172
1      0
		'header:Subject:1'                  0.155172
1      0
		'header:To:1'                       0.155172
1      0
		'message'                           0.155172
1      0
		'not'                               0.155172
1      0
		'other'                             0.155172
1      0
		'please'                            0.155172
1      0
		'process'                           0.155172
1      0
		'proto:http'                        0.155172
1      0
		'reply-to:none'                     0.155172
1      0
		'sender:none'                       0.155172
1      0
		'sent:'                             0.155172
1      0
		'skip:s 10'                         0.155172
1      0
		'subject:'                          0.155172
1      0
		'subject: '                         0.155172
1      0
		'subject:: '                        0.155172
1      0
		'the'                               0.155172
1      0
		'this'                              0.155172
1      0
		'to:'                               0.155172
1      0
		'to:2**0'                           0.155172
1      0
		'to:addr:michael'                   0.155172
1      0
		'url:org'                           0.155172
1      0
		'url:rec-html40'                    0.155172
1      0
		'url:tr'                            0.155172
1      0
		'url:w3'                            0.155172
1      0
		'url:www'                           0.155172
1      0
		'you'                               0.155172
1      0
		'your'                              0.155172
1      0

		Message Stream

		 
		X-Exchange-Message: true
		Subject: FW: New Enquiry (376710) for Unicadia
self-catering Apartments from
		        Charles Goredema
		To: Michael Martin
		 
		 
		 
		 
		 
		  _____  
		 
		From: Jacqui Goodwin (SafariNow.com) 
		Sent: 10 January 2006 10:32 AM
		To: Unicadia Accommodation Self-catering Apartments '
		Subject: New Enquiry (376710) for Unicadia self-catering
Apartments from Charles Goredema
		Importance: High
		 
		 
		 
		 
		 
		 
	
<http://www.safarinow.com/site/images/accommodation_cape_town.gif> 
		 
		 
		 
		 
		HOME <http://www.safarinow.com/>  | DESTINATIONS
<http://www.safarinow.com/destinations/>   
		 
	
<http://www.safarinow.com/site/images/accommodation_south_africa.gif> 
		 
		  SEARCH <http://www.safarinow.com/search.aspx>  |
SPECIAL DEALS <http://www.safarinow.com/specials.aspx> 
		 
		 
		 
		 
		Dear Petra
		 
		This is an automated message from SafariNow.com.
		 
		You have received a new booking enquiry from Charles
Goredema for Unicadia self-catering Apartments.
		 
		 
		Click the link below to go to your MyAccount page online
		 
		 
	
http://www.safarinow.com/engine/myaccount.aspx?tab=Seller
<http://www.safarinow.com/engine/myaccount.aspx?tab=Seller&i=jUFF2LNo2mG
B72xmCbmnGA%3d%3d&r=74026> &i=jUFF2LNo2mGB72xmCbmnGA%3d%3d&r=21283
		 
		If the above link doesn't work for you: simply go to
http://www.safarinow.com. If you're not automatically logged on, click
'LOGON' in the top right corner, and enter your email and password.
		 
		 
		For your reference
		 
		 
		*       Your SafariNow.com Enquiry Number is 376710.
		 
		 
		How SafariNow.com's online booking service works
		 
		 
		*       Interact with the Customer directly via the
SafariNow.com website.
		*       If the Customer makes a booking, SafariNow.com
will process the deposit payment and thereafter put you and the Customer
in contact with each other directly.
		 
		 
		 
		 
		  <http://www.safarinow.com/misc/hand.gif>   WHAT NOW?
		 
		To submit a quote or view the enquiry
<http://www.safarinow.com/engine/seller/viewenquiry.aspx?e=376710&i=jUFF
2LNo2mGB72xmCbmnGA%3d%3d> CLICK HERE
		 
		For queries regarding enquiry 376710 please contact
Jacqui Goodwin (jacqui at safarinow.com)
		 
		For queries about your SafariNow.com web page contact
Hazel Tutt (hazelt at safarinow.com)
		 
		 
		 
		Regards,
		 
		The SafariNow.com Team 
		 
		 
	
<http://www.safarinow.com/company/contact-us/email.gif> 
		 
		info at safarinow.com
		 
		 
	
<http://www.safarinow.com/company/contact-us/phone.gif> 
		 
		27 (0)21 7838040
		 
		 
		  <http://www.safarinow.com/company/contact-us/fax.gif> 
		 
		27 (0)21 7833626
		 
		 
		 
		  <http://www.safarinow.com/site/images/22.gif> 
		 
		SafariNow.com : Book accommodation in Southern Africa -
widest choice and best service
		 
		Office hours: Monday to Friday, 08h30 - 17h00 (GMT+2)
		 
	
<http://www.safarinow.com/site/images/defaultmediumlogo.gif> 
		 
		 
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Jacqui Goodwin
		(SafariNow.com) <br>
		<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10
January 2006 10:32 AM<br>
		<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
Unicadia Accommodation
		Self-catering Apartments '<br>
		<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b>
New Enquiry (376710) for
		Unicadia self-catering Apartments from Charles
Goredema<br>
		<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Importance:</span></b>
High</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
		 
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		<p><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;
		color:black'>Dear <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Petra</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
		 
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style='font-size:9.0pt;
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		<p><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;
		color:black'>You have received a new booking enquiry
from Charles Goredema for
		Unicadia self-catering
Apartments.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
		 
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target="_blank">http://www.safarinow.com/engine/myaccount.aspx?tab=Selle
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style='font-family:Verdana'>If the above
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style='font-family:Verdana'>http://www.safarinow.com</span></font></b></
strong>.
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style='font-family:Verdana'>LOGON</span></font></b></strong>' in the top
right
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password.</span></font><font size=1
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		     style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Your
<b><span
		     style='font-weight:bold'>SafariNow.com Enquiry
Number</span></b> is <b><span
	
style='font-weight:bold'>376710.</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></font></li
>
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		<h2><b><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Interact with the Customer
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website.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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		     style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>If the
Customer makes a
		     booking, SafariNow.com will process the deposit
payment and thereafter put
		     you and the Customer in contact with each other
directly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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		  src="http://www.safarinow.com/misc/hand.gif"
align=absmiddle>&nbsp; <strong><b><font
		  face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'>WHAT
NOW?</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>To
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mp;i=jUFF2LNo2mGB72xmCbmnGA%3d%3d"
		  target="_blank"><strong><b><font face=Verdana><span
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face=Verdana><span style='font-family:
		  Verdana'>enquiry 376710</span></font></b></strong>
please contact Jacqui
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href="mailto:jacqui at safarinow.com">jacqui at safarinow.com</a>)<br>
		  <br>
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href="mailto:hazelt at safarinow.com">hazelt at safarinow.com</a>)<o:p></o:p><
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From: pbair at state.pa.us (Bair, Patrick)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:22:40 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Install Problems
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I am having difficulty installing SpamBayes Version 1.0.4. I am using Outlook 2000 SP3 (9.0.0.6627) on a MS Exchange Server. 

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I receive this message even though I have closed all Outlook Windows, and even after restarting Windows without Outlook. Any advice?

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From bposert at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 18 18:04:09 2006
From: bposert at yahoo.com (bob posert)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:04:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spambayes] Training on unusual ham - any ideas?
In-Reply-To: <1f7befae0601171343x57b0defex5faf973f21f5f6a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060118170410.67033.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Tim.  Of course now when I go to do  this, it classifies the messages as Ham.  Next time it happens  I'll post with the spam clues.  Of course, I've inoculated myself  against it ever happening again by publicly claiming that it's going to  happen :-).
  
  Again, thanks so much for this program.
  
  --Bob

Tim Peters <tim.peters at gmail.com> wrote:
  There is no way to know why a message scores as it does without
looking at the "spam clues".  Generate those for one of these
messages, and share them here.  

		
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From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Wed Jan 18 22:20:33 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:20:33 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Smiley button guffed
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0DEA@SPIKE.city>

R. K. Coe

  _____  

Last night while configuring Spambayes on my new home computer, I
inadvertently deleted the smiley face from one of the buttons. It's
absurdly easy to do. The menus are confusing, and there's no recourse:
the operation has no "undo". (Isn't Outlook great?)

I've done that at least once before, but I've forgotten what I did about
it. Restarting the toolbars didn't help, so there must be some file I
have to get from another installation of Spambayes. That's no problem -
I've got Spambayes on my laptop - but I have no idea what file(s) might
do the trick. Can someone point me in the right direction? I don't
really want to reinstall Spambayes.  :^|

Bob 

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From dcarattini at chartermi.net  Wed Jan 18 21:06:19 2006
From: dcarattini at chartermi.net (David Carattini)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:06:19 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and Outlook 2000 freeze
Message-ID: <LCELJIBGFFCLILIKBBKCAENACPAA.dcarattini@chartermi.net>

Hi,
I am using: 	MS Outlook 2000 SP-3 (9.0.0.6627) Cipher strength 128 bits, 
		MS Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2,
		Athlon 2200 w/ 512Mb physical memory,
		avast! 4.6 Home Edition w/ Outlook-Exchange plug-in, and
		All-In-One Secretmaker 4.2.5.

Last night, I installed SpamBayes 1.0.4 Outlook client version. I turned off
the Spam fighter feature in "Secretmaker."

I ran the configuration wizard. Everything seemed to operate just fine
including operating the "delete as spam" button. The "send" command acted a
bit quirky however in that one of two outbox items remained after
"send/receive" and I had to repeat the command twice to send the second
item.

This morning, when I used the quick launch button (as usual) to activate
Outlook, the process froze when displaying the avast! plug-in logo. A second
attempt got past the logo but then froze before the Personal Folders view
was complete. A third attempt got as far as the second but then opened a
blank white window titled "Personal Folders" but then this too froze.

Finally, I removed SpamBayes from the system and Outlook is running well
enough to send you this message.

Any help?
Thanks for listening
David Carattini
Rockford, MI
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From jobey at inmail24.com  Thu Jan 19 07:56:28 2006
From: jobey at inmail24.com (jobey)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:56:28 +0200
Subject: [Spambayes] info please
Message-ID: <001801c61cc5$794221b0$c97ba8c0@JobeysHP>

Hi

Read your page on spambayes, and very informative it is.

It sounds from the info as spambayes is something I have to install on my machine for it to work.
Just recently I have been getting a lot of mails with [spam bayes xx,xx] in the subject field. I presume the numbers have to do with the spamminess of the message.
Sometimes I get the same message twice, one has been rated and the other hasn't.
I haven't installed spambayes on my machine - to my knowledge - so who's rating it?

hope you can answer these questions.

regards

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 09:36:45 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:36:45 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] info please
In-Reply-To: <001801c61cc5$794221b0$c97ba8c0@JobeysHP>
References: <001801c61cc5$794221b0$c97ba8c0@JobeysHP>
Message-ID: <F66EF7D6-AD56-4F22-99D9-E800C0CC438D@ihug.co.nz>

> It sounds from the info as spambayes is something I have to install  
> on my machine for it to work.

That is correct.

> Just recently I have been getting a lot of mails with [spam bayes  
> xx,xx] in the subject
> field. I presume the numbers have to do with the spamminess of the  
> message.
> Sometimes I get the same message twice, one has been rated and the  
> other hasn't.
> I haven't installed spambayes on my machine - to my knowledge - so  
> who's rating it?

SpamBayes doesn't modify subjects in that way.  The most likely  
explanation is that someone has built some sort of server-side filter  
using the spambayes code (or some other 'Bayesian' filter; the "spam  
bayes" could be a coincidence) and that is what is happening.   
Assuming that you have control over what software is installed on  
your machine, you should check with whoever is in charge of your mail  
server (e.g. your ISP's helpdesk).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 09:39:27 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:39:27 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and Outlook 2000 freeze
In-Reply-To: <LCELJIBGFFCLILIKBBKCAENACPAA.dcarattini@chartermi.net>
References: <LCELJIBGFFCLILIKBBKCAENACPAA.dcarattini@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <011E11E8-A5A2-4D91-95DB-A51221D046CC@ihug.co.nz>

> I am using: 	MS Outlook 2000 SP-3 (9.0.0.6627) Cipher strength 128  
> bits,
> 		MS Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2,
> 		Athlon 2200 w/ 512Mb physical memory,
> 		avast! 4.6 Home Edition w/ Outlook-Exchange plug-in, and
> 		All-In-One Secretmaker 4.2.5.
[...]
> I ran the configuration wizard. Everything seemed to operate just fine
> including operating the "delete as spam" button. The "send" command  
> acted a
> bit quirky however in that one of two outbox items remained after
> "send/receive" and I had to repeat the command twice to send the  
> second
> item.

SpamBayes isn't involved in the send or receive processes at all, so  
there shouldn't be any way that SpamBayes caused that.

> This morning, when I used the quick launch button (as usual) to  
> activate
> Outlook, the process froze when displaying the avast! plug-in logo.  
> A second
> attempt got past the logo but then froze before the Personal  
> Folders view
> was complete. A third attempt got as far as the second but then  
> opened a
> blank white window titled "Personal Folders" but then this too froze.

This sounds rather like some sort of conflict with avast! (which I am  
not familiar with at all).  If you disable avast! and enable  
SpamBayes, does it then work?

What is avast! (i.e. what does it do)?  It's possible that something  
could be done if they are conflicting.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 09:40:57 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:40:57 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Smiley button guffed
In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0DEA@SPIKE.city>
References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0DEA@SPIKE.city>
Message-ID: <6F2A0A67-476F-44B9-BA4E-D17AE35B79DB@ihug.co.nz>

> I've done that at least once before, but I've forgotten what I did  
> about it. Restarting the toolbars didn't help, so there must be  
> some file I have to get from another installation of Spambayes.

By restarting the toolbars, do you mean deleting them?  I would have  
thought that deleting the SpamBayes toolbar and the restarting  
(letting SpamBayes recreate it) would have fixed it.

Deleting outcmd.dat (the troubleshooting guide says where it is; I  
don't recall offhand) should also fix this.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 09:43:36 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:43:36 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Score Interpretation
In-Reply-To: <2F9C0F35271ACE42AC30CED4647BBBB65E6B30@platboom.safarinow.local>
References: <2F9C0F35271ACE42AC30CED4647BBBB65E6B30@platboom.safarinow.local>
Message-ID: <0C2D6F2B-788F-4CA1-B187-8AE26F4EB89E@ihug.co.nz>

> I am having trouble interpreting the score from the spam clues. The  
> information is listed below. How do I tell if the mail will be  
> marked as spam or not? Many thanks for your help.
>
> Combined Score: 0% (1.32361e-005)
> Internal ham score (*H*): 0.999974
> Internal spam score (*S*): 2.10942e-015
>
> # ham trained on: 1
> # spam trained on: 0

In addition to Jesse's comments: notice (if you haven't already) that  
you have only trained on one ham and no spam.  This means that  
*everything* will look like ham (because the classifier doesn't know  
what anything else looks like).  You won't really get results that  
make a lot of sense until you've trained on at least 5 messages of  
each type.

Note also that it's generally a good idea to keep the number of ham  
and spam trained roughly balanced, if possible.  2::1 or 1::3 isn't  
really a problem, but you may get very odd results with 50::1 or  
1::200 etc.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 09:44:59 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:44:59 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Install Problems
In-Reply-To: <2E2F7909552A814694C5F9CE74797E580212BA64@enhbgpri03.backup>
References: <2E2F7909552A814694C5F9CE74797E580212BA64@enhbgpri03.backup>
Message-ID: <0D5683DC-EA5C-40DA-AF3D-F668ABEFE6DC@ihug.co.nz>

> I am having difficulty installing SpamBayes Version 1.0.4. I am  
> using Outlook 2000 SP3 (9.0.0.6627) on a MS Exchange Server.
>
> I am currently running SpamBayes Version 1.0.3 (January 2005)  
> successfully. However, when I try to run the installation program  
> for the update, I receive the following error message:
[Outlook is still running]

If you can't manage to quit Outlook at all, you can open up the task  
manager (ctrl-alt-delete will either get you there or get you  
started), and manually kill and outlook.exe processes.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 09:47:31 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:47:31 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <000f01c619e0$6836d330$6401a8c0@yourpd3mh0abgs>
References: <000f01c619e0$6836d330$6401a8c0@yourpd3mh0abgs>
Message-ID: <DC97C55D-8E6D-41BE-8B96-6FB4E6F3440C@ihug.co.nz>

> I am trying to download this, but am unsure how.

Go to http://spambayes.org/download.html and click the link to the  
Windows installer.  When it's downloaded, open the installer and  
follow the instructions.  Please ask for specific help if you run  
into any problems.

> I have Outlook 2005.

Are you sure?  I didn't think Outlook 2005 (Office 12, right?) had  
been released yet.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 09:48:45 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:48:45 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAC3WHfHkjzUW5xzsg+J4i6sKAAAAQAAAAjZciPuQUxkaePPZoGH8hXgEAAAAA@comcast.net>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAC3WHfHkjzUW5xzsg+J4i6sKAAAAQAAAAjZciPuQUxkaePPZoGH8hXgEAAAAA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E0772967-3A45-4DC4-B29F-97A58BC75E31@ihug.co.nz>

> I cannot use the rescue from spam or delete as span toolbar.   
> Nothing happens when I try to move the message.

Please send us a copy of your most recent log file.  If you can use  
the SpamBayes button, you can get to this via SpamBayes->SpamBayes  
Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log; otherwise the  
troubleshooting guide explains where to find them.

=Tony.Meyer

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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 09:56:33 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:56:33 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Unable to Review Messages
	for Training
In-Reply-To: <4mmi87$jna96n@mxip26a.cluster1.charter.net>
References: <4mmi87$jna96n@mxip26a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <69419A2B-2F5E-482C-91F6-A998462DD790@ihug.co.nz>

> The problem I am having is that Spambayes does not appear to be
> allowing me to train automatically through the Review Messages page.
> When I go to the Review page, it tells me: "There are no untrained
> messages to display."

Is SpamBayes classifying any messages?  Have you set your mail client  
to connect to localhost, instead of directly to the remote server?

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 10:02:20 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:02:20 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple XP Users Confuses sb_service
In-Reply-To: <000f01c618c9$9a107220$6401a8c0@CENTURION>
References: <000f01c618c9$9a107220$6401a8c0@CENTURION>
Message-ID: <9E13FCA5-A289-47EF-B210-5ABF735E3862@ihug.co.nz>

> I'm stumped by this problem.  My wife and I use Outlook express,  
> and we each have our own account on our XP machine.  When we both  
> use the sb_tray program, the last one to start it up on his/her  
> account apparently dictates where SpamBayes will retrieve its  
> configuration information.

SpamBayes should be looking in your individual user folders  
(something like 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data 
\SpamBayes\Proxy').  Are you both running sb_tray at the same time?   
(i.e. using fast user switching or whatever Microsoft calls it).  I'm  
not sure how well Windows isolates multiple logged in users (i.e. can  
they each run a separate copy of the same program?)

> Seeing this, I decided that maybe the best thing to do was to  
> install the sb_service to provide a central mechanism for filtering  
> spam on our computer.

This should work, although I believe it means you'll share data  
(configuration, training data).  That might not matter to you.

> The service starts automatically, and that seems to work fine.  I  
> can login to either of our accounts and retrieve email.  However,  
> the sb_tray program seems confused.  Whoever runs the program first  
> prevents the other one from running it.  The first person to run it  
> gets an active tray program through which he/she can review  
> messages and configure the server.  If I login to the second  
> account, the sb_tray program doesn't work -- it says SpamBayes  
> isn't running.

Can you get copies of the most recent log files and send those to  
us?  (The troubleshooting guide explains where to find them).  I  
suspect that the second instance is started and finds one already  
running (assuming that the other user is still logged in) so stops.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Thu Jan 19 14:21:29 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:21:29 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple XP Users Confuses sb_service
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0E09@SPIKE.city>

Since you're using Outlook Express, you must be using the proxy server
implementation of Spambayes. Your problem evidently stems from the fact
that the proxy server provides only a single thread between the POP3
server and the two users. Assuming that you don't mind if you and your
wife share a single Spambayes database, you can solve the problem by
feeding the two incoming mail streams into Spambyes (i.e., don't bother
to differentiate your mail from your wife's), then splitting the output
of Spambayes using a second proxy server. (I know it sounds kludgy, but
it ought to work.) One proxy server (there may be others) that will do
that is VPOP3, an excellent and affordable product of a software house
in England. (Google will find you their Web site.) With two proxy
servers in series, you'll have to play some games with port numbers, but
VPOP3 is almost infinitely configurable, so that's not hard to do.
 
I've never used the Spambayes proxy server, so I don't know for a fact
that you can easily make it get its input from two POP3 accounts. But if
not, you can probably have your ISP throw all your mail (yours and your
wife's) into a single POP3 account. That won't inconvenience you,
because VPOP3 is going to split it up again anyway.
 
The point of all this is that you and your wife are no longer competing
for Spambayes's attention. It does its job in the background without
intervention from either user.

Bob 

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]
On Behalf Of Kyle Forbes
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 12:16 AM
To: spambayes at python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple XP Users Confuses sb_service


I'm stumped by this problem.  My wife and I use Outlook express, and we
each have our own account on our XP machine.  When we both use the
sb_tray program, the last one to start it up on his/her account
apparently dictates where SpamBayes will retrieve its configuration
information.  Seeing this, I decided that maybe the best thing to do was
to install the sb_service to provide a central mechanism for filtering
spam on our computer.
 
The service starts automatically, and that seems to work fine.  I can
login to either of our accounts and retrieve email.  However, the
sb_tray program seems confused.  Whoever runs the program first prevents
the other one from running it.  The first person to run it gets an
active tray program through which he/she can review messages and
configure the server.  If I login to the second account, the sb_tray
program doesn't work -- it says SpamBayes isn't running.  Even if I shut
down the first user's instance of the tray program, the second user can
never seem to get an active connection to the service.  Is this a known
bug?  How can two outlook express users review messages via the sb_tray
program?
 
Thanks.
 
Kyle

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From COLSON at nwacc.edu  Fri Jan 20 00:24:15 2006
From: COLSON at nwacc.edu (Olson, Carol)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:24:15 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] I want to retrain spambayes in a small way,
	can it be done?
Message-ID: <07ECC9F2940BF34F9AAFEECA94EA0C8182575A@boreas.nwacc.edu>

I have spambayes fairly well trained, but it will still allow a newer
spam in (one that has been created or newly sent to me since I've
trained the product).

 

How do I add just one new item like that to the list it will filter out,
w/o going through retraining it all together?

 

Sincerely,

 

Carol Olson :)

Associate Professor 

   & Developmental (ACSK) Mathematics Coordinator

Mathematics, Physics, & Technology Department

    - Developmental Education Program

S.M.A.R.T.H. Division

NorthWest Arkansas Community College

 

One College Drive

Bentonville, AR 72712

 

Phone: (479) 986-6906;   Office: MAT 17

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Email: colson at nwacc.edu 

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Fri Jan 20 00:33:57 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:33:57 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] I want to retrain spambayes in a small way,
	can it be done?
In-Reply-To: <07ECC9F2940BF34F9AAFEECA94EA0C8182575A@boreas.nwacc.edu>
References: <07ECC9F2940BF34F9AAFEECA94EA0C8182575A@boreas.nwacc.edu>
Message-ID: <331A8CBA-2B3F-4966-8C83-19CAB4C75D13@ihug.co.nz>

> I have spambayes fairly well trained, but it will still allow a  
> newer spam in (one that has been created or newly sent to me since  
> I?ve trained the product).
>
> How do I add just one new item like that to the list it will filter  
> out, w/o going through retraining it all together?

Are you using the Outlook plug-in?  (If not, please email again,  
letting us know what you are using).  If so, then simply select the  
message you wish to train, and click the "Delete as Spam" button.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 19 10:02:20 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:02:20 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple XP Users Confuses sb_service
In-Reply-To: <000f01c618c9$9a107220$6401a8c0@CENTURION>
References: <000f01c618c9$9a107220$6401a8c0@CENTURION>
Message-ID: <9E13FCA5-A289-47EF-B210-5ABF735E3862@ihug.co.nz>

> I'm stumped by this problem.  My wife and I use Outlook express,  
> and we each have our own account on our XP machine.  When we both  
> use the sb_tray program, the last one to start it up on his/her  
> account apparently dictates where SpamBayes will retrieve its  
> configuration information.

SpamBayes should be looking in your individual user folders  
(something like 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data 
\SpamBayes\Proxy').  Are you both running sb_tray at the same time?   
(i.e. using fast user switching or whatever Microsoft calls it).  I'm  
not sure how well Windows isolates multiple logged in users (i.e. can  
they each run a separate copy of the same program?)

> Seeing this, I decided that maybe the best thing to do was to  
> install the sb_service to provide a central mechanism for filtering  
> spam on our computer.

This should work, although I believe it means you'll share data  
(configuration, training data).  That might not matter to you.

> The service starts automatically, and that seems to work fine.  I  
> can login to either of our accounts and retrieve email.  However,  
> the sb_tray program seems confused.  Whoever runs the program first  
> prevents the other one from running it.  The first person to run it  
> gets an active tray program through which he/she can review  
> messages and configure the server.  If I login to the second  
> account, the sb_tray program doesn't work -- it says SpamBayes  
> isn't running.

Can you get copies of the most recent log files and send those to  
us?  (The troubleshooting guide explains where to find them).  I  
suspect that the second instance is started and finds one already  
running (assuming that the other user is still logged in) so stops.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Fri Jan 20 13:56:24 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:56:24 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Smiley button guffed
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0E8E@SPIKE.city>

Well, I don't *have* an outcmd.dat. My wife's account does, but mine
doesn't. Maybe I already deleted it. What do I do now?

Bob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:41 AM
> To: Coe, Bob
> Cc: spambayes at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Smiley button guffed
> 
> 
> > I've done that at least once before, but I've forgotten what I did
> > about it. Restarting the toolbars didn't help, so there must be  
> > some file I have to get from another installation of Spambayes.
> 
> By restarting the toolbars, do you mean deleting them?  I would have  
> thought that deleting the SpamBayes toolbar and the restarting  
> (letting SpamBayes recreate it) would have fixed it.
> 
> Deleting outcmd.dat (the troubleshooting guide says where it is; I  
> don't recall offhand) should also fix this.
> 
> =Tony.Meyer
> 
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in 
> your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal 
> mail about SpamBayes. 
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
> 
> 
> 

From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Fri Jan 20 14:36:43 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:36:43 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0E8F@SPIKE.city>

Based on my experience (see my notes of 1/17 and 1/18), I suggest you
shut down DEP completely and see if that cures your problem, as it did
mine. If it does cure the problem but you have your heart set on using
DEP, you can then turn it back on and start fiddling with the exception
list.

My computer allows DEP to be turned off in BIOS. I suppose YMMV if your
computer doesn't work that way.

Bob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces at python.org 
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Danny Burk
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:37 AM
> To: Tony Meyer
> Cc: spambayes at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
> 
> 
> Hi again Tony:
> 
> Since my first email 10 minutes ago, I tried two more things. 
> One game me an interesting result.
> 
> 1) If I don't have any mail message highlighted and I click 
> on "Delete As 
> Spam", I get the normal error message ("No filterable mail 
> selected" or 
> something like that) before Outlook shuts down.
> 
> 2) I changed the DEP settings again ("Turn on DEP for all 
> programs and 
> services except..." and listed Outlook.exe as my only 
> exception). After 
> making the change and rebooting, I uninstalled SpamBayes and then 
> reinstalled it. Same shutdown result. Interesting result when 
> I uninstalled 
> SpamBayes: the toolbar was still there on the list of 
> possible toolbars and 
> when I clicked on it, I still got the shutdown (this is with 
> SpamBayes 
> UNinstalled! I reinstalled SpamBayes and then disabled the 
> COM Add-in for 
> SpamBayes. The toolbar disappeared. Then I uninstalled again and 
> reinstalled. The toolbar appears when it should now, but the 
> shutdown is 
> continuing.
> 
> Just thought I'd add some more curiosities to see if we can 
> get this thing 
> fixed!
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Danny Burk
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
> To: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
> Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
> 
> 
> > Hi Tony:
> >
> > I wondered whether you had any suggetions on what further 
> steps I can 
> > take to get this wonderful product working again. To recap:
> >
> > I'm using:
> > XP Professional SP2
> > Office 2003 SP2
> > SpamBayes 1.0.4
> >
> > Outlook 2002 and SpamBayes were working wonderfully together.
> >
> > This problem seems to have been around from the very start of when I
> > loaded
> > Outlook 2003 (about 1 month ago).
> > SpamBayes is still sorting messages (pretty accurately) in 
> Outlook 2003, 
> > but
> > when I click on anything in the SpamBayes toolbar, Outlook 
> ends with a 
> > nice
> > message asking me if I want to send a report to Microsoft. 
> When Outlook
> > reloads, if I had clicked on "Delete as Spam" or "Remove from Spam",
> > whatever I clicked on worked for the highlighted messages 
> (they were in 
> > fact
> > reclassified). When I try to get into the SpamBayes menu 
> (to retrain, for
> > example), as soon as I click on "SpamBayes" on the toolbar, 
> Outlook shuts
> > down.
> >
> > I have uninstalled SpamBayes.
> > I ran Detect and Repair on Outlook.
> > I reinstalled SpamBayes.
> > No change in the symptoms.
> >
> > I also changed the setting in DEP to "Turn on DEP for all 
> programs and 
> > services except..." and then listed Outlook.exe as my only 
> exception. 
> > After I rebooted, same result with Outlook and SpamBayes.
> >
> > Is there any additional information I can give you or 
> anything else I
> > should
> > try?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Danny Burk
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
> > To: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
> >
> >
> >>>>>> Anytime I click on anything on the toolbar including 
> the option  
> >>>>>> to configure Spambayes, Outlook shuts down.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Have you tried the suggestions in the Troubleshooting Guide?
> >>>
> >>> Yes I have. I've uninstalled, reinstalled, disabled and 
> reinabled  
> >>> in Outlook. I've turned DEP on for all programs and put 
> Outlook in  
> >>> as not being included.
> >>
> >> Did you try the toolbar specific suggestions, such as deleting 
> >> outcmd.dat?  What about doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook?
> >>
> >> =Tony.Meyer
> >>
> >> --
> >> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) 
> in your replies
> >> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about 
> SpamBayes.
> >> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html 
> explains this.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
> 

From dburkdburk at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 20 21:31:36 2006
From: dburkdburk at hotmail.com (Danny Burk)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:31:36 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0E8F@SPIKE.city>
Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV50D87D346CCF79DDD08F9CF1F0@phx.gbl>

Hey Bob:

I appreciate your help. I had thought that this was hopeless.

Unfortunately, my BIOS doesn't seem to have an option to disable DEP.

Separately, I've tried to include every application I could think of in the 
list of DEP "exceptions" and that hasn't seemed to help.

Maybe it is hopeless!?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Coe, Bob" <rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV>
To: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
Cc: <spambayes at Python.org>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem


Based on my experience (see my notes of 1/17 and 1/18), I suggest you
shut down DEP completely and see if that cures your problem, as it did
mine. If it does cure the problem but you have your heart set on using
DEP, you can then turn it back on and start fiddling with the exception
list.

My computer allows DEP to be turned off in BIOS. I suppose YMMV if your
computer doesn't work that way.

Bob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces at python.org
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Danny Burk
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:37 AM
> To: Tony Meyer
> Cc: spambayes at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
>
>
> Hi again Tony:
>
> Since my first email 10 minutes ago, I tried two more things.
> One game me an interesting result.
>
> 1) If I don't have any mail message highlighted and I click
> on "Delete As
> Spam", I get the normal error message ("No filterable mail
> selected" or
> something like that) before Outlook shuts down.
>
> 2) I changed the DEP settings again ("Turn on DEP for all
> programs and
> services except..." and listed Outlook.exe as my only
> exception). After
> making the change and rebooting, I uninstalled SpamBayes and then
> reinstalled it. Same shutdown result. Interesting result when
> I uninstalled
> SpamBayes: the toolbar was still there on the list of
> possible toolbars and
> when I clicked on it, I still got the shutdown (this is with
> SpamBayes
> UNinstalled! I reinstalled SpamBayes and then disabled the
> COM Add-in for
> SpamBayes. The toolbar disappeared. Then I uninstalled again and
> reinstalled. The toolbar appears when it should now, but the
> shutdown is
> continuing.
>
> Just thought I'd add some more curiosities to see if we can
> get this thing
> fixed!
>
> Thank you.
>
> Danny Burk
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
> To: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
> Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
>
>
> > Hi Tony:
> >
> > I wondered whether you had any suggetions on what further
> steps I can
> > take to get this wonderful product working again. To recap:
> >
> > I'm using:
> > XP Professional SP2
> > Office 2003 SP2
> > SpamBayes 1.0.4
> >
> > Outlook 2002 and SpamBayes were working wonderfully together.
> >
> > This problem seems to have been around from the very start of when I
> > loaded
> > Outlook 2003 (about 1 month ago).
> > SpamBayes is still sorting messages (pretty accurately) in
> Outlook 2003,
> > but
> > when I click on anything in the SpamBayes toolbar, Outlook
> ends with a
> > nice
> > message asking me if I want to send a report to Microsoft.
> When Outlook
> > reloads, if I had clicked on "Delete as Spam" or "Remove from Spam",
> > whatever I clicked on worked for the highlighted messages
> (they were in
> > fact
> > reclassified). When I try to get into the SpamBayes menu
> (to retrain, for
> > example), as soon as I click on "SpamBayes" on the toolbar,
> Outlook shuts
> > down.
> >
> > I have uninstalled SpamBayes.
> > I ran Detect and Repair on Outlook.
> > I reinstalled SpamBayes.
> > No change in the symptoms.
> >
> > I also changed the setting in DEP to "Turn on DEP for all
> programs and
> > services except..." and then listed Outlook.exe as my only
> exception.
> > After I rebooted, same result with Outlook and SpamBayes.
> >
> > Is there any additional information I can give you or
> anything else I
> > should
> > try?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Danny Burk
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
> > To: "Danny Burk" <dburkdburk at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Toolbar problem
> >
> >
> >>>>>> Anytime I click on anything on the toolbar including
> the option
> >>>>>> to configure Spambayes, Outlook shuts down.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Have you tried the suggestions in the Troubleshooting Guide?
> >>>
> >>> Yes I have. I've uninstalled, reinstalled, disabled and
> reinabled
> >>> in Outlook. I've turned DEP on for all programs and put
> Outlook in
> >>> as not being included.
> >>
> >> Did you try the toolbar specific suggestions, such as deleting
> >> outcmd.dat?  What about doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook?
> >>
> >> =Tony.Meyer
> >>
> >> --
> >> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org)
> in your replies
> >> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about
> SpamBayes.
> >> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html
> explains this.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
>

From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Fri Jan 20 22:29:25 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:29:25 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Smiley button guffed
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB0EC1@SPIKE.city>

I finally located the right "outcmd.dat" and deleted it. That did force
the toolbar back to its initial settings, so that I could start over.
Thanks for the suggestion.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces at python.org 
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Coe, Bob
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:56 AM
> To: Tony Meyer
> Cc: spambayes at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Smiley button guffed 
> 
> 
> Well, I don't *have* an outcmd.dat. My wife's account does, 
> but mine doesn't. Maybe I already deleted it. What do I do now?
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:41 AM
> > To: Coe, Bob
> > Cc: spambayes at python.org
> > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Smiley button guffed
> > 
> > 
> > > I've done that at least once before, but I've forgotten 
> what I did 
> > > about it. Restarting the toolbars didn't help, so there must be
> > > some file I have to get from another installation of Spambayes.
> > 
> > By restarting the toolbars, do you mean deleting them?  I would have
> > thought that deleting the SpamBayes toolbar and the restarting  
> > (letting SpamBayes recreate it) would have fixed it.
> > 
> > Deleting outcmd.dat (the troubleshooting guide says where it is; I
> > don't recall offhand) should also fix this.
> > 
> > =Tony.Meyer
> > 
> > --
> > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in 
> > your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal 
> > mail about SpamBayes. 
> > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html 
> explains this.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
> 

From netsecurity at sound-by-design.com  Sat Jan 21 16:40:34 2006
From: netsecurity at sound-by-design.com (Allen)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:40:34 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
Message-ID: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>

I've installed SpamBayes on about a dozen Outlook setups, but I've never 
succeeded in getting it to work with Thunderbird, which is what I use.

I get the point of setting the port to get mail from via localhost, but 
I can't quite see how to send the user name and password to the POP3 
server through (or is it with?) SpamBayes so that the connection is made.

Clues for the clueless, please?

Thanks,

Allen

From montejw at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 21 17:28:55 2006
From: montejw at earthlink.net (Monte)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:28:55 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
In-Reply-To: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
References: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
Message-ID: <43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>

Allen wrote:
> I've installed SpamBayes on about a dozen Outlook setups, but I've never 
> succeeded in getting it to work with Thunderbird, which is what I use.
> 
> I get the point of setting the port to get mail from via localhost, but 
> I can't quite see how to send the user name and password to the POP3 
> server through (or is it with?) SpamBayes so that the connection is made.
> 
> Clues for the clueless, please?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Allen

I've got it running on Thunderbird, let's say my email address is 
username at earthlink.net, here's my setup:
Server settings:
Server Name - Localhost
User Name - username
Port - 110

SpamBayes Configuration page setup:
Remote Servers - mail.earthlink.net
SpamBayes Ports - 110

When you check you e-mail you should get asked by Thunderbird for your 
password, that's the way it works for me.

Monte


From netsecurity at sound-by-design.com  Sat Jan 21 19:27:18 2006
From: netsecurity at sound-by-design.com (Allen)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:27:18 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
In-Reply-To: <43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>
References: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
	<43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43D27D06.4090704@sound-by-design.com>

Monte,

Thanks for the config settings.

That is what I had but I thought I was doing something wrong as it keeps 
coming back with "sending of username did not succeed. Mail server 
Localhost responded: USER" after it asks for the password and I enter it.

I'm beginning to suspect that since my mail server requires both the 
user name and domain name as the fully qualified user name in the form 
<username at domainname.com>, SpamBayes is truncating it at the @ and the 
server isn't getting the full user name and so can't validate the user.

Solutions?

Thanks,

Allen

Monte wrote:
> Allen wrote:
>> I've installed SpamBayes on about a dozen Outlook setups, but I've never 
>> succeeded in getting it to work with Thunderbird, which is what I use.
>>
>> I get the point of setting the port to get mail from via localhost, but 
>> I can't quite see how to send the user name and password to the POP3 
>> server through (or is it with?) SpamBayes so that the connection is made.
>>
>> Clues for the clueless, please?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Allen
> 
> I've got it running on Thunderbird, let's say my email address is 
> username at earthlink.net, here's my setup:
> Server settings:
> Server Name - Localhost
> User Name - username
> Port - 110
> 
> SpamBayes Configuration page setup:
> Remote Servers - mail.earthlink.net
> SpamBayes Ports - 110
> 
> When you check you e-mail you should get asked by Thunderbird for your 
> password, that's the way it works for me.
> 
> Monte
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SpamBayes at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
> 
> 

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Jan 21 20:34:27 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:34:27 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
In-Reply-To: <43D27D06.4090704@sound-by-design.com>
References: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
	<43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>
	<43D27D06.4090704@sound-by-design.com>
Message-ID: <AF918C8D-DB00-41A3-887A-4701A0E19DD0@ihug.co.nz>

> That is what I had but I thought I was doing something wrong as it  
> keeps
> coming back with "sending of username did not succeed. Mail server
> Localhost responded: USER" after it asks for the password and I  
> enter it.
>
> I'm beginning to suspect that since my mail server requires both the
> user name and domain name as the fully qualified user name in the form
> <username at domainname.com>, SpamBayes is truncating it at the @ and the
> server isn't getting the full user name and so can't validate the  
> user.

SpamBayes doesn't do any truncating, it sends the USER comment  
exactly as it receives it (in fact, it sends basically every command  
exactly as it receives it).

If you add:

[globals]
verbose:True

to your bayescustomize.ini file (probably in 'C:\Documents and  
Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy'), then you'll  
get a _pop3proxy.log file created that includes a copy of the most  
recent POP conversation.

Try it again (to generate the file), and then STRIP OUT THE USERNAME  
AND PASSWORD from the file, and send us a copy of the log. That  
should explain what is happening.  (FWIW, there are lots of people  
successfully using Thunderbird and SpamBayes together).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Sun Jan 22 01:07:23 2006
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:07:23 +0100
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes eats my mails
References: <nyhi6g15of0l$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
	<9CF640E5-2E36-444B-8A58-82ABCCAADD0A@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <wirq3g8kv6v1$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:28:04 +1300, Tony Meyer wrote:

> If this is not the case, please elaborate, and if at all possible,  
> include the output of 'sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -i4' (perhaps changing  
> to run through a test folder rather than your inbox).

Running through a test folder doesn't show this behaviour (unfortunately).

I saw another problem as well (a week ago): an assertion failed that
checked spamcount against nspam. I had to prune my (not very well trained)
databases to clear that issue.

I don't know what to do - as I have not changed my config, I can be pretty
sure that spambayes will delete my mails again when I have switched it back
to INBOX as it did the two times before.

Maybe running with -i4 and set to INBOX could help here?

Kind regards,
Alexander


From netsecurity at sound-by-design.com  Sun Jan 22 02:51:18 2006
From: netsecurity at sound-by-design.com (Allen)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:51:18 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
In-Reply-To: <AF918C8D-DB00-41A3-887A-4701A0E19DD0@ihug.co.nz>
References: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
	<43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>
	<43D27D06.4090704@sound-by-design.com>
	<AF918C8D-DB00-41A3-887A-4701A0E19DD0@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <43D2E516.6090403@sound-by-design.com>

Tony, and crew;

Here is the log file doing what you said.

=========================

+OK X1 NT-POP3 Server ipsmin0168atl2.interland.net (IMail 6.06 
3264689-1) [ISafe POP3 Proxy]
CAPA
+OK Capability list follows
TOP
USER
SASL LOGIN PLAIN CRAM-MD5
RESP-CODES
LOGIN-DELAY 120
EXPIRE 30 USER
UIDL
IMPLEMENTATION Ipswitch_IMail_5.0
.
AUTH PLAIN
+ VXNlcm5hbWU6
c291bmRieXRlQHNvdW5kLWJ5LWRlc2lnbi5jb20=

USER xxxx at sound-by-design.com
+ UGFzc3dvcmQ6
PASS xxxx

CAPA
-ERR Invalid userid/password
AUTH PLAIN
-ERR Not in authorization state
AUTH LOGIN
+OK Capability list follows
c291bmRieXRlQHNvdW5kLWJ5LWRlc2lnbi5jb20=
TOP
USER xxxx at sound-by-design.com
USER

===========================

This is actually for a different username than the address I'm writing 
to you from, but the domain is the same.

Thanks for such clear instructions on how to generate the log file. As a 
sometimes tech writer myself I know it is tough to make it clear, 
concise, and complete. No wonder I recommend SpamBayes to people who use 
Look..., excuse me, Outlook.

A totally aside comment that you should find flattering is that my 
hosting provider chose SpamAssassin over SpamBayes because it runs 
faster in a hosting environment, but a good friend of his is on the 
SpamAssassin team and they are adopting your model of three buckets and 
are in the process of re-writing it to accommodate your model.

Thanks

Allen



Tony Meyer wrote:
>> That is what I had but I thought I was doing something wrong as it keeps
>> coming back with "sending of username did not succeed. Mail server
>> Localhost responded: USER" after it asks for the password and I enter it.
>>
>> I'm beginning to suspect that since my mail server requires both the
>> user name and domain name as the fully qualified user name in the form
>> <username at domainname.com>, SpamBayes is truncating it at the @ and the
>> server isn't getting the full user name and so can't validate the user.
> 
> SpamBayes doesn't do any truncating, it sends the USER comment exactly 
> as it receives it (in fact, it sends basically every command exactly as 
> it receives it).
> 
> If you add:
> 
> [globals]
> verbose:True
> 
> to your bayescustomize.ini file (probably in 'C:\Documents and 
> Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy'), then you'll get 
> a _pop3proxy.log file created that includes a copy of the most recent 
> POP conversation.
> 
> Try it again (to generate the file), and then STRIP OUT THE USERNAME AND 
> PASSWORD from the file, and send us a copy of the log. That should 
> explain what is happening.  (FWIW, there are lots of people successfully 
> using Thunderbird and SpamBayes together).
> 

From sandi at drtavel.com  Sun Jan 22 04:00:04 2006
From: sandi at drtavel.com (Sandi Tavel)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:00:04 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] additional users
Message-ID: <000001c61eff$f252e350$0301a8c0@BEDROOM>

I am interested in adding additional users on this machine to Spambayes.
Please tell me how to do it

 

Thanks

 

Sandi Tavel

sandi at drtavel.com

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Jan 23 03:20:52 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:20:52 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] additional users
In-Reply-To: <000001c61eff$f252e350$0301a8c0@BEDROOM>
References: <000001c61eff$f252e350$0301a8c0@BEDROOM>
Message-ID: <798F6E17-89BB-4059-9D2C-E2CB314A1D2E@ihug.co.nz>

> I am interested in adding additional users on this machine to  
> Spambayes.  Please tell me how to do it
Please follow the steps in the troubleshooting guide (accessible via  
the SpamBayes button on the toolbar) under "Install for all users".

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Jan 23 03:51:09 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:51:09 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
In-Reply-To: <43D2E516.6090403@sound-by-design.com>
References: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
	<43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>
	<43D27D06.4090704@sound-by-design.com>
	<AF918C8D-DB00-41A3-887A-4701A0E19DD0@ihug.co.nz>
	<43D2E516.6090403@sound-by-design.com>
Message-ID: <2B076B97-0A3C-40CB-B1A8-03BB284A7D07@ihug.co.nz>

> +OK X1 NT-POP3 Server ipsmin0168atl2.interland.net (IMail 6.06
> 3264689-1) [ISafe POP3 Proxy]
> CAPA
> +OK Capability list follows
[snip]
> IMPLEMENTATION Ipswitch_IMail_5.0
> .
> AUTH PLAIN

This is the AUTH command of RFC1734, I presume.  I wonder if this is  
causing problems (I'm not familiar with it myself), although I can't  
think why it would.

> + VXNlcm5hbWU6
> c291bmRieXRlQHNvdW5kLWJ5LWRlc2lnbi5jb20=
>
> USER xxxx at sound-by-design.com
> + UGFzc3dvcmQ6
> PASS xxxx
>

This is where it gets particularly odd...

> CAPA
> -ERR Invalid userid/password
> AUTH PLAIN
> -ERR Not in authorization state
> AUTH LOGIN
> +OK Capability list follows
> c291bmRieXRlQHNvdW5kLWJ5LWRlc2lnbi5jb20=
> TOP
> USER xxxx at sound-by-design.com
> USER

This seems all jumbled up.  There's an additional CAPA command before  
the USER/PASS is rejected, then an AUTH PLAIN after it is but before  
the CAPA response (which doesn't appear), then an AUTH LOGIN (RFC1734  
again, I suppose) command, then TOP (which should only be sent after  
a successful login), then it starts back with USER...

I tried Thunderbird 1.5 myself, but none of the POP servers I have  
access to support the AUTH command, so it just gets an error and  
continues.  My finger is pretty firmly pointed at AUTH at the moment.

Could you open up a command window (Start->Run->cmd.exe) and type  
"telnet {mailserver} 110" and try logging in without the AUTH  
business?  The commands are basically as above:

USER {username}
+ Server should give some sort of ok, please enter password response
PASS {password}
+ Server hopefully says it is ok
LIST

(list will just list the messages on the server, to demonstrate that  
it is logged in).  Note that the telnet that comes with Windows isn't  
great, and won't work properly if you use backspace, so you'll need  
to type it without any errors.

If that works, then it must, I think, be the AUTH command, and I'll  
have to dig further to figure out what to do about that.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From netsecurity at sound-by-design.com  Mon Jan 23 06:24:43 2006
From: netsecurity at sound-by-design.com (Allen)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:24:43 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
In-Reply-To: <2B076B97-0A3C-40CB-B1A8-03BB284A7D07@ihug.co.nz>
References: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
	<43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>
	<43D27D06.4090704@sound-by-design.com>
	<AF918C8D-DB00-41A3-887A-4701A0E19DD0@ihug.co.nz>
	<43D2E516.6090403@sound-by-design.com>
	<2B076B97-0A3C-40CB-B1A8-03BB284A7D07@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <43D4689B.4020708@sound-by-design.com>

Tony,

I did as you suggested, and all I get is:

+OK <54149.1137993301 at bigbird.whtech.com> [ISafe POP3 Proxy]
-ERR authorization first
-ERR authorization first
-ERR authorization first
-ERR authorization first
-ERR authorization first

There is no username or password prompt. However, this may be because 
Lizardhill, the hosting service, has locked out direct connections.

I've CC:'d him on this. Maybe he can provide some insight.

Thanks,

Allen

Tony Meyer wrote:
>> +OK X1 NT-POP3 Server ipsmin0168atl2.interland.net (IMail 6.06
>> 3264689-1) [ISafe POP3 Proxy]
>> CAPA
>> +OK Capability list follows
> [snip]
>> IMPLEMENTATION Ipswitch_IMail_5.0
>> .
>> AUTH PLAIN
> 
> This is the AUTH command of RFC1734, I presume.  I wonder if this is 
> causing problems (I'm not familiar with it myself), although I can't 
> think why it would.
> 
>> + VXNlcm5hbWU6
>> c291bmRieXRlQHNvdW5kLWJ5LWRlc2lnbi5jb20=
>>
>> USER xxxx at sound-by-design.com
>> + UGFzc3dvcmQ6
>> PASS xxxx
>>
> 
> This is where it gets particularly odd...
> 
>> CAPA
>> -ERR Invalid userid/password
>> AUTH PLAIN
>> -ERR Not in authorization state
>> AUTH LOGIN
>> +OK Capability list follows
>> c291bmRieXRlQHNvdW5kLWJ5LWRlc2lnbi5jb20=
>> TOP
>> USER xxxx at sound-by-design.com
>> USER
> 
> This seems all jumbled up.  There's an additional CAPA command before 
> the USER/PASS is rejected, then an AUTH PLAIN after it is but before the 
> CAPA response (which doesn't appear), then an AUTH LOGIN (RFC1734 again, 
> I suppose) command, then TOP (which should only be sent after a 
> successful login), then it starts back with USER...
> 
> I tried Thunderbird 1.5 myself, but none of the POP servers I have 
> access to support the AUTH command, so it just gets an error and 
> continues.  My finger is pretty firmly pointed at AUTH at the moment.
> 
> Could you open up a command window (Start->Run->cmd.exe) and type 
> "telnet {mailserver} 110" and try logging in without the AUTH business?  
> The commands are basically as above:
> 
> USER {username}
> + Server should give some sort of ok, please enter password response
> PASS {password}
> + Server hopefully says it is ok
> LIST
> 
> (list will just list the messages on the server, to demonstrate that it 
> is logged in).  Note that the telnet that comes with Windows isn't 
> great, and won't work properly if you use backspace, so you'll need to 
> type it without any errors.
> 
> If that works, then it must, I think, be the AUTH command, and I'll have 
> to dig further to figure out what to do about that.
> 
> =Tony.Meyer
> 
> --Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
> 
> 
> 
> 

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Jan 23 09:55:08 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:55:08 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
In-Reply-To: <43D4689B.4020708@sound-by-design.com>
References: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
	<43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>
	<43D27D06.4090704@sound-by-design.com>
	<AF918C8D-DB00-41A3-887A-4701A0E19DD0@ihug.co.nz>
	<43D2E516.6090403@sound-by-design.com>
	<2B076B97-0A3C-40CB-B1A8-03BB284A7D07@ihug.co.nz>
	<43D4689B.4020708@sound-by-design.com>
Message-ID: <FD70D5BA-6477-49F1-AABE-8D6349F87604@ihug.co.nz>

>> Could you open up a command window (Start->Run->cmd.exe) and type
>> "telnet {mailserver} 110" and try logging in without the AUTH  
>> business?
>> The commands are basically as above:
>>
>> USER {username}
>> + Server should give some sort of ok, please enter password response
>> PASS {password}
>> + Server hopefully says it is ok
>> LIST
>>
>> (list will just list the messages on the server, to demonstrate  
>> that it
>> is logged in).  Note that the telnet that comes with Windows isn't
>> great, and won't work properly if you use backspace, so you'll  
>> need to
>> type it without any errors.
>>
>> If that works, then it must, I think, be the AUTH command, and  
>> I'll have
>> to dig further to figure out what to do about that.
>
> I did as you suggested, and all I get is:
>
> +OK <54149.1137993301 at bigbird.whtech.com> [ISafe POP3 Proxy]
> -ERR authorization first
> -ERR authorization first
> -ERR authorization first
> -ERR authorization first
> -ERR authorization first
>
> There is no username or password prompt. However, this may be because
> Lizardhill, the hosting service, has locked out direct connections.

Sorry, this is my poor directions.  You have to type the whole line,  
including "USER".  (You type USER and the username, press return, it  
says ok, then you type PASS and the password, press return, and it  
hopefully says you've logged in).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From cyris at tpg.com.au  Mon Jan 23 11:07:58 2006
From: cyris at tpg.com.au (Andrew)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:37:58 +1030
Subject: [Spambayes] restoring filtered emails
Message-ID: <000001c62004$e374d2c0$0201010a@engineering>

I had unintendedly filtered all of my emails.

 

Is their way to restore these emails? (I did not set up the spam bytes
correctly)

 

Andrew 

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From galilia at cs.bgu.ac.il  Mon Jan 23 18:47:56 2006
From: galilia at cs.bgu.ac.il (galili assaf)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:47:56 +0200 (IST)
Subject: [Spambayes] question about .procmailrc
Message-ID: <200601231747.k0NHlu4K029367@indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il>

Hello all,
I am using spambayes in .procmailrc (unix account).
my question is about .procmailrc:
is .procmailrc synchronized? I mean, if two new mails are coming to my accout, will the first .procmailrc script execution finish before the second execution will start?
I am trying to do something so the order is very importent.
Thank you,
Asi



From papaDoc at videotron.ca  Mon Jan 23 19:17:38 2006
From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (Remi Ricard)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:17:38 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] question about .procmailrc
In-Reply-To: <200601231747.k0NHlu4K029367@indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il>
References: <200601231747.k0NHlu4K029367@indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il>
Message-ID: <43D51DC2.8000507@videotron.ca>

Hi,

> Hello all,
> I am using spambayes in .procmailrc (unix account).
> my question is about .procmailrc:
> is .procmailrc synchronized? I mean, if two new mails are coming to my accout, will the first .procmailrc script execution finish before the second execution will start?
> I am trying to do something so the order is very importent.

By default .procmail is not serialized, 2 emails can go and start the 
execution of the script.

What you have to do is to make it wait until the filtering is finished

This is part of my .procmail
FILTER=sb_filter.py
DB = $HOME/Tmp/spambayes.statistic.db

:0 fw:hamlock
| $FILTER -d $DB

# the f => consider the pipe as a filter
# the w => Wait  for  the  filter or program to finish and check its
            exitcode (normally ignored); if the filter is unsuccessful,
            then  the  text will not have been filtered.


Remi

From galilia at cs.bgu.ac.il  Mon Jan 23 19:22:39 2006
From: galilia at cs.bgu.ac.il (galili assaf)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:22:39 +0200 (IST)
Subject: [Spambayes] question about .procmailrc
In-Reply-To: <43D51DC2.8000507@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <200601231822.k0NIMdVh008819@indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il>

Thank you for the fast reply,
But I need somethig a little bit more complicated:
I want to ensure the a whole .procmailrc execution will be completed before a next begins.
I am trying to do a small experiment : In my .procmailrc I call to 3 different spamfilter, and then I write the results to a file. there for I must ensure execution completion before another execution begin.
Does anyone know how can I do it?
Thank you,
Asi


On Mon 23 Jan 20:17 2006 Remi Ricard wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Hello all,
> > I am using spambayes in .procmailrc (unix account).
> > my question is about .procmailrc:
> > is .procmailrc synchronized? I mean, if two new mails are coming to my accout, will the first .procmailrc script execution finish before the second execution will start?
> > I am trying to do something so the order is very importent.
> 
> By default .procmail is not serialized, 2 emails can go and start the 
> execution of the script.
> 
> What you have to do is to make it wait until the filtering is finished
> 
> This is part of my .procmail
> FILTER=sb_filter.py
> DB = $HOME/Tmp/spambayes.statistic.db
> 
> :0 fw:hamlock
> | $FILTER -d $DB
> 
> # the f => consider the pipe as a filter
> # the w => Wait  for  the  filter or program to finish and check its
>             exitcode (normally ignored); if the filter is unsuccessful,
>             then  the  text will not have been filtered.
> 
> 
> Remi




From papaDoc at videotron.ca  Mon Jan 23 19:42:36 2006
From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (Remi Ricard)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:42:36 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] question about .procmailrc
In-Reply-To: <200601231822.k0NIMdVh008819@indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il>
References: <200601231822.k0NIMdVh008819@indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il>
Message-ID: <43D5239C.20801@videotron.ca>

Hi,

> Thank you for the fast reply,
> But I need somethig a little bit more complicated:
> I want to ensure the a whole .procmailrc execution will be completed before a next begins.
> I am trying to do a small experiment : In my .procmailrc I call to 3 different spamfilter, and then I write the results to a file. there for I must ensure execution completion before another execution begin.
> Does anyone know how can I do it?

I think what you can do is something like

:0 w
__add_a_rule_here_that_work_on_all_mail
{
         # Do your 3 filters inside the {}

	:0 w
	| filter1

	:0 w
	| filter2

	:0 w
	| filter3	
}

Since the whole process is included between {} procmail should wait 
until everything is finished before processing a new mail

Remi

N.B. This is what I think should work but I did not test it.

From mikec at mikecauser.com  Mon Jan 23 20:23:22 2006
From: mikec at mikecauser.com (Mike Causer)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:23:22 +0000
Subject: [Spambayes] question about .procmailrc
In-Reply-To: <200601231747.k0NHlu4K029367@indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il>
References: <200601231747.k0NHlu4K029367@indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il>
Message-ID: <20060123192322.3a0e5ad4.mikec@mikecauser.com>

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:47:56 +0200 (IST) galili assaf <galilia at cs.bgu.ac.il> wrote:

> I am using spambayes in .procmailrc (unix account).
> my question is about .procmailrc:
> is .procmailrc synchronized? I mean, if two new mails are coming to my
> accout, will the first .procmailrc script execution finish before the
> second execution will start?
> I am trying to do something so the order is very importent.

It probably depends on your MTA.  I'm using fetchmail -> Postfix ->
procmail -> Spambayes, and comparing the timestamps in the Postfix and
procmail logs it certainly looks as if Postfix waits for procmail to
finish one message before it is called again for the next.  



Mike
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From netsecurity at sound-by-design.com  Tue Jan 24 01:55:08 2006
From: netsecurity at sound-by-design.com (Allen)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:55:08 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
In-Reply-To: <FD70D5BA-6477-49F1-AABE-8D6349F87604@ihug.co.nz>
References: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
	<43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>
	<43D27D06.4090704@sound-by-design.com>
	<AF918C8D-DB00-41A3-887A-4701A0E19DD0@ihug.co.nz>
	<43D2E516.6090403@sound-by-design.com>
	<2B076B97-0A3C-40CB-B1A8-03BB284A7D07@ihug.co.nz>
	<43D4689B.4020708@sound-by-design.com>
	<FD70D5BA-6477-49F1-AABE-8D6349F87604@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <43D57AEC.5010307@sound-by-design.com>

Tony,

Okay, did that and got:

+OK <44814.1138063181 at bigbird.whtech.com> [ISafe POP3 Proxy]
-ERR authorization first
+OK   (USER xxx)
+OK   (PASS xxx)
+OK   (LIST)
1 4230
2 3967
(etc.)
.

The error was a mistype on my part. Forgot uppercase USER. The parens 
items are what I typed.

Is it just telnet to SMTP that doesn't give the USER prompt? Or is it 
doing it from the command prompt instead of a term? I remember uploading 
web pages via FTP a few years back where the system gave prompts. Mind 
you this was a different provider and 5 or 6 years ago. I've being doing 
GUI too long, I think. :)

Thanks,

Allen

Tony Meyer wrote:
>>> Could you open up a command window (Start->Run->cmd.exe) and type
>>> "telnet {mailserver} 110" and try logging in without the AUTH business?
>>> The commands are basically as above:
>>>
>>> USER {username}
>>> + Server should give some sort of ok, please enter password response
>>> PASS {password}
>>> + Server hopefully says it is ok
>>> LIST
>>>
>>> (list will just list the messages on the server, to demonstrate that it
>>> is logged in).  Note that the telnet that comes with Windows isn't
>>> great, and won't work properly if you use backspace, so you'll need to
>>> type it without any errors.
>>>
>>> If that works, then it must, I think, be the AUTH command, and I'll have
>>> to dig further to figure out what to do about that.
>>
>> I did as you suggested, and all I get is:
>>
>> +OK <54149.1137993301 at bigbird.whtech.com> [ISafe POP3 Proxy]
>> -ERR authorization first
>> -ERR authorization first
>> -ERR authorization first
>> -ERR authorization first
>> -ERR authorization first
>>
>> There is no username or password prompt. However, this may be because
>> Lizardhill, the hosting service, has locked out direct connections.
> 
> Sorry, this is my poor directions.  You have to type the whole line, 
> including "USER".  (You type USER and the username, press return, it 
> says ok, then you type PASS and the password, press return, and it 
> hopefully says you've logged in).
> 
> =Tony.Meyer
> 
> --Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
> 
> 
> 
> 

From rlee at exemail.com.au  Tue Jan 24 07:14:05 2006
From: rlee at exemail.com.au (rlee at exemail.com.au)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:14:05 +1100 (EST)
Subject: [Spambayes] Read the trouble-shooting guide
Message-ID: <3119.220.233.88.112.1138083245.squirrel@webmail.exetel.com.au>

Spambayes,

   - OS: WinXP pro
   - Spambayes version: 1.0.4
   - Log attached

Had no trouble with mail prior to installation. Since installing latest
release I now get the error below. As a result I have to use my ISP's web
based mail client to send emails as all mail sent via Outlook Express
bounces, displying the following error:

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

      Subject:	This is a test
      Sent:	24/01/2006 4:55 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      'rebecca.lee at studentmail.newcastle.edu.au' on 24/01/2006 4:55 PM
            553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts
(#5.7.1)

Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated as I have tried
uninstalling and reinstalling (both Outlook Express & Spambayes) with no
success!

Kind regards,
Bek
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan 24 10:31:22 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:31:22 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Read the trouble-shooting guide
In-Reply-To: <3119.220.233.88.112.1138083245.squirrel@webmail.exetel.com.au>
References: <3119.220.233.88.112.1138083245.squirrel@webmail.exetel.com.au>
Message-ID: <21B657C5-0CB1-41E2-978C-F7D7ABFFEA6D@ihug.co.nz>

>    - OS: WinXP pro
>    - Spambayes version: 1.0.4
>    - Log attached
>
> Had no trouble with mail prior to installation. Since installing  
> latest
> release I now get the error below. As a result I have to use my  
> ISP's web
> based mail client to send emails as all mail sent via Outlook Express
> bounces, displying the following error:

Your message mentions Outlook Express (twice), but the log you sent  
is from the Outlook plug-in (Outlook and Outlook Express, despite the  
similar names, are very different programs).  Are you using Outlook  
Express and sent the wrong log, or did you send the right log and  
write the wrong mail client?

The Outlook plug-in is not involved in sending (or receiving) mail at  
all.  Certainly, if you also have this problem when SpamBayes is  
uninstalled, then the problem is not due to SpamBayes.

> Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
>
>       Subject:	This is a test
>       Sent:	24/01/2006 4:55 PM
>
> The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
>
>       'rebecca.lee at studentmail.newcastle.edu.au' on 24/01/2006 4:55 PM
>             553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed  
> rcpthosts
> (#5.7.1)

The most likely cause (from the error message) is that your mail  
provider (e.g. ISP) has changed things on their end.

> Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated as I have  
> tried
> uninstalling and reinstalling (both Outlook Express & Spambayes)  
> with no
> success!

If you are, in fact, using Outlook Express, then you may have setup  
the SMTP proxy, in which case SpamBayes is involved in sending mail.   
The simplest solution is to open the configuration page and remove  
and SMTP proxies that are setup (and change Outlook Express from  
connecting to localhost back to connecting directly to the server).   
The SMTP proxy is of no use for Outlook Express users in any case.   
Once this is done, Outlook Express will be directly connecting to the  
server.  My suspicion is that the problem will continue, and once  
again the best thing to do would be to ask your ISP about the problem.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From kenny.pitt at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 16:27:44 2006
From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:27:44 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] I know, another clueless newbie question....
In-Reply-To: <43D57AEC.5010307@sound-by-design.com>
References: <43D255F2.6050105@sound-by-design.com>
	<43D26147.10301@earthlink.net>
	<43D27D06.4090704@sound-by-design.com>
	<AF918C8D-DB00-41A3-887A-4701A0E19DD0@ihug.co.nz>
	<43D2E516.6090403@sound-by-design.com>
	<2B076B97-0A3C-40CB-B1A8-03BB284A7D07@ihug.co.nz>
	<43D4689B.4020708@sound-by-design.com>
	<FD70D5BA-6477-49F1-AABE-8D6349F87604@ihug.co.nz>
	<43D57AEC.5010307@sound-by-design.com>
Message-ID: <op.s3v2kiwnzr17vm@kpitt2.spidynamics.com>

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:55:08 -0500, Allen  
<netsecurity at sound-by-design.com> wrote:
> Is it just telnet to SMTP that doesn't give the USER prompt? Or is it
> doing it from the command prompt instead of a term? I remember uploading
> web pages via FTP a few years back where the system gave prompts. Mind
> you this was a different provider and 5 or 6 years ago. I've being doing
> GUI too long, I think. :)

When you did FTP, you were probably using an FTP client application that  
provided the prompts and communicated with the server on your behalf.   
When you telnet to the SMTP port, you are actually talking directly to the  
server at the protocol level.  You're providing your own (manual)  
implementation of the SMTP protocol normally handled by your mail client.

-- 
Kenny Pitt

From frank at singtaousa.com  Wed Jan 25 00:21:48 2006
From: frank at singtaousa.com (Frank Qiu)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:21:48 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] help
Message-ID: <000d01c6213c$f36c1920$171310ac@MIS2>

Hi, support team, 

 

      OS: windows 2000

      the version of spambayes: 1.0.4

      log : attachment





I installed spambays software to filter spam mail on my computer. It worked two weeks ago. It could filter a lot of Spam email. It stopped filtering email one weeks ago. I reinstalled spambays several times, even deleted all folder in C:\Program Files\SpamBayes and C:\Documents and Settings\Frank\Application Data\SpamBayes. It still can¡¯t filter any email. Please see attachment for detail. Please help.





Frank
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From mala4000 at bol.com.br  Wed Jan 25 06:43:25 2006
From: mala4000 at bol.com.br (Lidiana Alves)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:43:25 -0300
Subject: [Spambayes] Modelos prontos de cartas e e-mails comerciais
Message-ID: <20060125054442.77ECB782A@sankara2.bol.com.br>


Modelos prontos de cartas e e-mails comerciais. Visite o site:

http://www.gueb.de/cartascomerciais

E veja alguns dos modelos abaixo:


	Procura??o
Carta de Recomenda??o
Convite para Exposi??o ou Feira

 

AGRADECIMENTOS E CONDOL?NCIAS

? Agradecimento de convite e felicita??es;
? Agradecimento e convite para solenidade;
? Agradecimento de mensagem de p?sames;
? Agradecimento de pedido;
? Agradecimento e boas vindas a cliente novo;
? Agradecimento por mensagem de felicita??o;
? Confraterniza??o;
? Congratula??es;
? Cumprimentos por resultados comerciais;
? Felicita??es pessoais;
? P?sames;

http://www.gueb.de/cartascomerciais

? Votos de boas festas 
Voltar ao topo               

http://www.gueb.de/cartascomerciais

CARTAS DE RECLAMA??O

? Reclama??o de compra de produto;
? Reclama??o por atraso;
? Reclama??o por aumento de pre?o;
? Reclama??o por defici?ncia t?cnica;
? Reclama??o por demora na entrega;
? Reclama??o por diverg?ncia;
? Respostas a reclama??es;
Voltar ao topo

COMUNICADOS E AVISOS

? Advert?ncia a funcion?rio;
? Aviso de aumento de pre?os;
? Aviso de incorpora??o da empresa;
? Aviso de lan?amento de produto e servi?o;
? Aviso de mudan?a de endere?o;
? Aviso de ocorr?ncia de acidente;
? Aviso de t?rmino de contrato;
? Aviso gen?rico;
? Comunica??o de atraso no envio de mercadorias;
? Comunica??o de devolu??o de duplicata;
? Comunica??o de devolu??o de mercadoria;
? Comunica??o de envio de mercadorias;
? Comunica??o de envio de parte do pedido;
? Comunica??o de extravio de mercadorias;
? Comunica??o de f?rias coletivas;
? Comunica??o de liquida??o de d?bito;
? Comunica??o de novo servi?o de televendas;
? Comunica??o de reuni?o;
? Confirma??o de pedido;
? Resposta ao comunicado de reuni?o; 

Voltar ao topo

http://www.gueb.de/cartascomerciais

EMPREGO

? Aviso pr?vio de dispensa de empregado: 1, 2, e 3;
? Carta de recomenda??o;
? Pedido de demiss?o: 1 e 2;
? Solicita??o de emprego: 1, 2 e 3;
? Solicita??o de est?gio; 
Voltar ao topo

ATESTADOS E DECLARA??ES

? Atestado de bons antecedentes;
? Atestado m?dico;
? Declara??o negativa de v?nculo empregat?cio;
? Declara??o para cancelamento de protesto;
? Declara??o para fins escolares;
Voltar ao topo


    * Agradecimentos e condol?ncias
    * Atestados e Declara??es
    * Cartas de Cobran?as
    * Cartas de Reclama??o
    * Cartas em Ingl?s
    * Comunicados e Avisos
    * Convites
    * Documentos
    * Emprego
    * Propostas
    * Solicita??es e pedidos
    * Viagem


CARTAS DE COBRAN?A

? Cartas de cobran?a: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 e 8;
? Encaminhamento de cobran?a a protesto;
? Oferecimento de servi?o de cobran?a;
? Recebimento de d?bito pendente;
Voltar ao topo

CARTAS EM INGL?S

? Cancelamento de pedido;
? Carta de demiss?o;
? Carta de refer?ncia;
? Curriculum vitae;
? Pedido de produto: 1 e 2;
? Reclama??o de assinatura de publica??o;
? Remessa de valores;
? Resposta a pedido de produto;
? Resposta a solicita??o de emprego;
? Resposta a solicita??o de informa??es;
? Resposta a solicita??o de pre?os;
? Solicita??o de emprego;
? Solicita??o de informa??es comerciais;
? Solicita??o de licen?a;
? Solicita??o de pre?os; 
Voltar ao topo

CONVITES

http://www.gueb.de/cartascomerciais

? Convite para batizado;
? Convite para evento social;
? Convite para exposi??o ou feira;
? Convite para lan?amento de produto;
? Resposta negativa a convite;
? Resposta positiva a convite; 
Voltar ao topo

DOCUMENTOS

? Ata;
? Contrato de loca??o de im?vel;
? Contrato firmado acordo;
? Contrato social;
? Edital de convoca??o;
? Procura??o;
? Recibo de venda de autom?vel; 
Voltar ao topo

PROPOSTAS

? Proposta de abertura de conta corrente;
? Proposta de presta??o de servi?os: 1 e 2;
? Proposta de representa??o comercial: 1 e 2;
? Proposta para ocupa??o de cargo;
? Proposta para recupera??o de clientes;
? Resposta negativa ? proposta de representa??o: 1 e 2;
? Resposta positiva ? proposta de representa??o: 1 e 2; 
Voltar ao topo

http://www.gueb.de/cartascomerciais

SOLICITA??E E PEDIDOS
? Pedido de desculpas;
? Pedido de mercadorias;
? Resposta a pedido de carta de apresenta??o;
? Resposta a solicita??o de c?pias de documentos;
? Resposta a solicita??o de or?amento;
? Resposta negativa a solicita??o de informa??es comerciais;
? Resposta positiva a solicita??o de informa??es comerciais;
? Solicita??o de atestado de Idoneidade Financeira;
? Solicita??o de cat?logos de pre?os;
? Solicita??o de cr?dito;
? Solicita??o de informa??es comerciais;
? Solicita??o de informa??es sobre curso;
? Solicita??o de listas de pre?os;
? Solicita??es de refer?ncias pessoais;
? Suspens?o de pedido de mercadoria;
Voltar ao topo

VIAGEM
? Informa??es sobre requisitos de viagem;
? Pedido de reserva em hotel;
? Recupera??o de bagagem extraviada;
? Reclama??o de maus tratos ? bagagem;
? Recupera??o de objeto esquecido em hotel;
? Reserva de passagens;
? Roteiro tur?stico. 

http://www.gueb.de/cartascomerciais




From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Wed Jan 25 17:16:54 2006
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:16:54 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes flunks stress test
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005BB108D@SPIKE.city>

R. K. Coe

  _____  

I recently bought a new home computer, so the other day I found myself
doing a from-scratch installation of the Spambayes Outlook plugin. I
failed to notice that Background Filtering was turned on by default (or
I had inadvertently turned it on), and I had a couple thousand messages
waiting on my POP3 server. The latter is a VPOP3 proxy server that
downloads messages from my ISP and stores them locally. So as seen by
Outlook, it's a very fast mail server with zero latency. I had
inadvertently set the stage for a major stress test of Spambayes's
background filtering mechanism. It didn't pass the test.

Because Spambayes was set to wait a second or two before starting, the
two thousand (unfiltered) messages came roaring into my inbox as soon as
I hit "Send/Receive". A couple of seconds later Spambayes began
attacking those messages with a vengeance. The system basically froze as
Spambayes took over the CPU and apparently all of the computer's memory.
Every minute or two I'd get a message that the computer was out of
system resources and that I'd have to restart Outlook. It must have been
at least a half hour before Spambayes got done and I was able to regain
control of the computer.

Folks, that computer is a Windows 2003 Server with 2 GB of memory! For
Spambayes to gobble it up like that is unacceptable. I guess I could
have prevented the problem by setting a suitable delay between messages,
but by the time I recognized my error, it was too late. Remember that I
didn't realize that Background Filtering was turned on, so I ignored the
delay setting. I don't normally use Background Filtering, and everything
has been quite normal since I turned it off. So I don't really care. But
some users need the feature, and it seems to me that it's only a matter
of time before some poor wretch repeats my experience. Can't something
be done to limit the percentage of the machine's resources that
Background Filtering is allowed to consume?

Bob <mailto:rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV>  

MIS Department, City <http://www.cambridgema.gov/>  of Cambridge
831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139  *  617-349-4217  *  fax
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From cjohnson43 at wi.rr.com  Wed Jan 25 21:27:10 2006
From: cjohnson43 at wi.rr.com (Carol Johnson)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:27:10 -0600
Subject: [Spambayes] Spam file problem SOS
Message-ID: <HNEFKHGGFLPEOOKMJJBJEEFADLAA.cjohnson43@wi.rr.com>

Hello, My son set up a spam file, for me, in the folder list  in Microsoft Outlook.
Some how I made it disappear by mistake. I would check my spam file and move the
good mail to my inbox. Now I do not know how to get to the spam file to check mail
and also to  put that file back in my folder list. 
Can you please help me.? Carol

Carol Anne Johnson
Nature's Design, Inc
(262) 240-0466

 

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Jan 25 23:10:25 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:10:25 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Spam file problem SOS
In-Reply-To: <HNEFKHGGFLPEOOKMJJBJEEFADLAA.cjohnson43@wi.rr.com>
References: <HNEFKHGGFLPEOOKMJJBJEEFADLAA.cjohnson43@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9489247F-2821-418D-BE73-3EB4C47A9CDB@ihug.co.nz>

> Hello, My son set up a spam file, for me, in the folder list  in  
> Microsoft Outlook.
> Some how I made it disappear by mistake.

Please see FAQ 3.13:

<http://spambayes.org/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder>

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From wwjd2525 at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jan 26 07:02:06 2006
From: wwjd2525 at yahoo.co.uk (Christopher Isaiah Fun)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:02:06 +0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Installation error + Script error
In-Reply-To: <DA0D82EC-EA1C-4B4A-86B3-94DBBD7DB197@ihug.co.nz>
References: <303ACB4B-A01D-41BA-B90F-82C39D637AAB@yahoo.co.uk>
	<69F0282C-9B7C-4C60-B381-9860DA083535@ihug.co.nz>
	<8DDCDA6C-BED5-45C8-A6C8-F086E719AAFF@yahoo.co.uk>
	<DA0D82EC-EA1C-4B4A-86B3-94DBBD7DB197@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <58BB8901-DCFF-4D39-AA04-7B5EB255D232@yahoo.co.uk>

Hi there,

many thanks for your help !!! =)

i managed to get the thing working, and it gave me an unsure  
classification because there wasn't any training done. Am i right to  
say then, that in order to train, i'll just use the options found in  
the sb_filter.py script?

is it difficult to install the latest version of python - i looked at  
the python.org, and there's no installer, but just UNIX compile -  
version 2.4.2. is that what you are talking about in the previous maiL?

eventually, i need to combine this python script, get out the number  
of ham and spam tokens, and pass this to a matlab code which is  
converted into C++. i heard that it's actually possible to "embed" C+ 
+ into python - have you done it before?


Warmest Regards,
Christopher Isaiah Fun
~ Faith is believing in God when life tells you otherwise.


On 15 Jan 2006, at 12:03 PM, Tony Meyer wrote:

>> [...]
>> You do not have a dbm module available to use.  You need to either  
>> use a pickle (see the FAQ), use Python 2.3 (or above), or install  
>> a dbm module such as bsddb (see http://sf.net/projects/pybsddb).
>
> This is a result of this bug:
>
> [ 1106457 ] bsddb185 has to be covered in dbmstorage.py
> (fixed in CVS)
>
> I think; at least, when I try the various dbm modules here (OS X  
> 10.4.4) only bsddb185 works.
>
> The simplest way around this would be to simply use a pickle for  
> storage, rather than one of the dbm modules.
>
>     sb_filter.py -p ~/.hammie.pik message.mbox
>
> Alternatively, you could install Python 2.4 (the Mac package (at  
> least the one I used) includes bsddb), or the bsddb module, or ZODB  
> (ask if you'd like instructions for any of these).
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your  
> replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>
>


	
	
		
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From Game at AttitudeExpress.biz  Thu Jan 26 10:39:28 2006
From: Game at AttitudeExpress.biz (Lance Beste)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:39:28 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Question
Message-ID: <20060126093931.GWKX1416.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@LAPTOP>

How many times do I have to transfer a regular email to my inbox before
spambeyes gets the message?  It keeps reverting back to sending some valid
emails to junk even though I try to tell it they are okay.  I don't
understand because the format and content are mostly the same every email.
 

 

Regards

 

Lance

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Jan 26 21:13:02 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:13:02 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Question
In-Reply-To: <20060126093931.GWKX1416.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@LAPTOP>
References: <20060126093931.GWKX1416.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@LAPTOP>
Message-ID: <11914C6C-2B5A-41D9-A29E-E064CE1A1DDC@ihug.co.nz>

> How many times do I have to transfer a regular email to my inbox  
> before
> spambeyes gets the message?  It keeps reverting back to sending  
> some valid
> emails to junk even though I try to tell it they are okay.  I don't
> understand because the format and content are mostly the same every  
> email.

Please see FAQ 4.7:

<http://spambayes.org/faq.html#why-did-spambayes-mark-this-obvious- 
spam-unsure>

The next two FAQs are also relevant.  The most important part is that  
it is simply impossible to answer this question without the clues for  
the message (pre-training).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From neja at speakeasy.net  Thu Jan 26 21:56:40 2006
From: neja at speakeasy.net (Neja)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:56:40 -0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Filtering Messages
Message-ID: <20060126210453.DB5651E4002@bag.python.org>

To Whom It May Concern:

 

I am having difficult filtering my mail, could you suggest what I should do.

 

Thank you,

 

 

 

Nellie Muganda

neja at speakeasy.net

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From bratac at t-onleine.com  Sun Jan 29 11:55:02 2006
From: bratac at t-onleine.com (Master Bratac)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:55:02 +0100
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes + Exchange Server
Message-ID: <004101c624c2$74d5c5a0$17b2a8c0@fmzw.local>

Hi Folks,

I found Spambayes yesterday and got an idea. I want to use it with my 
Exchange Server in the following way:

The pop filters should get the emails from my ISP and should forward it to 
my Exchange Server, filtering out the Spam. OK, this should be no Problem 
... now the Question:

Is it Possible to use the Imap filter to train the pop filter ?
I want to scan the Inbox of the Postboxes every night for good Emails, and a 
specific folder (where everyone has access) for bad emails. So users could 
move there Spam emails from the Inbox to this "Spam Folder". This "Spam 
folder" also has its own internal adress, so the POP filter could forward 
SPAM messages to this Spam Folder.

Can I do it like this ? The main thing is ... is it possible to train the 
POP Filter with the use of the IMAP Filter, and how do I do this ?

Regards

 


From bratac at t-onleine.com  Sun Jan 29 14:27:06 2006
From: bratac at t-onleine.com (Master Bratac)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:27:06 +0100
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes + Exchange Server
Message-ID: <001101c624d7$b39c2080$17b2a8c0@fmzw.local>

Hi Folks,

I found Spambayes yesterday and got an idea. I want to use it with my
Exchange Server in the following way:

The pop filters should get the emails from my ISP and should forward it to
my Exchange Server, filtering out the Spam. OK, this should be no Problem
... now the Question:

Is it Possible to use the Imap filter to train the pop filter ?
I want to scan the Inbox of the Postboxes every night for good Emails, and a
specific folder (where everyone has access) for bad emails. So users could
move there Spam emails from the Inbox to this "Spam Folder". This "Spam
folder" also has its own internal adress, so the POP filter could forward
SPAM messages to this Spam Folder.

Can I do it like this ? The main thing is ... is it possible to train the
POP Filter with the use of the IMAP Filter, and how do I do this ?

Regards




From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Jan 30 09:35:39 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:35:39 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Running sb_server.py from init
	under Linux
In-Reply-To: <43DD49A4.2020709@comcast.net>
References: <43DD49A4.2020709@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B1C9B3DD-71EF-4201-9AFB-CCF4051E22E2@ihug.co.nz>

[Moved to spambayes at python.org.  spambayes-dev is for discussion  
about the development of SpamBayes: see http://spambayes.org/ 
contact.html]

[Richard Heck]
> (1) Is there any reason that sb_server.py needs to run as root?

No, just make sure you're using ports accessible to the user, that  
the scripts (and Python) are executable by the user, and that the  
databases are both read & writable by the user.  Why do you think it  
needs to be run as root?

> (2) The initscripts call daemon(),
[...]
> Is it worth considering having sb_server.py do that, too?

I presume you're referring to the script on http://spambayes.org/ 
unix.html contributed by Dave Handley.  If you'd like to submit your  
own script, we'd be happy to put that up with the others.

=Tony.Meyer

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Jan 30 10:14:59 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:14:59 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes + Exchange Server
In-Reply-To: <004101c624c2$74d5c5a0$17b2a8c0@fmzw.local>
References: <004101c624c2$74d5c5a0$17b2a8c0@fmzw.local>
Message-ID: <25284A83-DA4B-47D5-AC7B-496EBEF48AAC@ihug.co.nz>

> I found Spambayes yesterday and got an idea. I want to use it with my
> Exchange Server in the following way:
>
> The pop filters should get the emails from my ISP and should  
> forward it to
> my Exchange Server, filtering out the Spam. OK, this should be no  
> Problem

Are you saying that you want SpamBayes to collect mail from a POP  
server and forward it, classified, to an Exchange server, without the  
use of a mail client?  SpamBayes doesn't have the ability to collect  
mail; you'll have to use something like fetchmail to do that.  Once  
you've got it, you should be able to use sb_filter to classify it,  
and then something else (maybe sendmail?) to get it to the Exchange  
server.

> Is it Possible to use the Imap filter to train the pop filter ?

As long as only one process has the database open for write access at  
once you can use whatever combination of the SpamBayes scripts to  
train and classify as you like.

> I want to scan the Inbox of the Postboxes every night for good  
> Emails, and a
> specific folder (where everyone has access) for bad emails. So  
> users could
> move there Spam emails from the Inbox to this "Spam Folder".

sb_imapfilter does this, yes (assuming that IMAP access to the  
Exchange server is enabled).

> This "Spam folder" also has its own internal adress, so the POP  
> filter could forward
> SPAM messages to this Spam Folder.

Again, sb_server (nor any of the other SpamBayes scripts) doesn't  
forward, deliver, or collect any mail.  You could setup the (e.g.)  
sendmail solution to deliver it there, at least in theory.  Note that  
any false positives would, of course, be globally available.

> The main thing is ... is it possible to train the
> POP Filter with the use of the IMAP Filter, and how do I do this ?

It seems to me that that's the least important thing here, but yes.   
Simply give the scripts the same database to work with, and ensure  
that only one opens the database at a time.

=Tony.Meyer


From rgheck at bobjweil.com  Mon Jan 30 17:29:40 2006
From: rgheck at bobjweil.com (Richard Heck)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:29:40 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Running sb_server.py from init
	under Linux
In-Reply-To: <B1C9B3DD-71EF-4201-9AFB-CCF4051E22E2@ihug.co.nz>
References: <43DD49A4.2020709@comcast.net>
	<B1C9B3DD-71EF-4201-9AFB-CCF4051E22E2@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <43DE3EF4.5090501@bobjweil.com>

Tony Meyer wrote:

> [Richard Heck]
>
>> (1) Is there any reason that sb_server.py needs to run as root?
>
> No, just make sure you're using ports accessible to the user, that the 
> scripts (and Python) are executable by the user, and that the 
> databases are both read & writable by the user. Why do you think it 
> needs to be run as root?

I didn't see any reason but thought I should ask and make sure. You 
know, when you ASS-U-ME....

>> (2) The initscripts call daemon(), [...] Is it worth considering 
>> having sb_server.py [lower its privileges], too?
>
> I presume you're referring to the script on 
> http://spambayes.org/unix.html contributed by Dave Handley. If you'd 
> like to submit your own script, we'd be happy to put that up with the 
> others.

Yes, I'll send one along that I've now got working properly. But the 
suggestion was that sb_server.py should handle these things itself (as 
most system daemons do), that is, lower its own privileges if it 
discovers that it is running as root and then daemonize itself by 
forking and dissociating itself from the originating process. Indeed, a 
more careful treatment might set up the listening ports before the 
lowering of privileges (which would require a restart when they 
changed), or lower the privileges of every process except the one that 
sets up the listening ports, so that the proxy could run as an 
unprivileged user AND bind ports below 1024.

It was in that neighborhood that I meant to be making a suggestion, 
which is why I sent it to the spambayes-dev list. I could probably make 
the changes necessary for the simpler version. It'd take more 
sophistication than I have, I think, to make the latter work.

Richard


From bratac at t-onleine.com  Mon Jan 30 21:32:51 2006
From: bratac at t-onleine.com (Master Bratac)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:32:51 +0100
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes + Exchange Server
References: <004101c624c2$74d5c5a0$17b2a8c0@fmzw.local>
	<25284A83-DA4B-47D5-AC7B-496EBEF48AAC@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <000d01c625dc$57c26bb0$17b2a8c0@fmzw.local>

OK,
I understood the concept of the POP3 Filter in a wrong way ...
Then it is even easyer to set it up for me. I?m allready using an 
Application to download POP Email and forwarding it to my Exchange. So I can 
put spambayes POP3 Proxy between may Application and the "real" POP Server, 
to mark mails as good or bad mail. Afterward I can create some Exchange 
rules to get the Mails into the right postbox ...
I?ll try it ...

Thanks for your help Tony

Regards
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Meyer" <tameyer at ihug.co.nz>
To: "Master Bratac" <bratac at t-onleine.com>
Cc: <spambayes at python.org>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] SpamBayes + Exchange Server


>> I found Spambayes yesterday and got an idea. I want to use it with my
>> Exchange Server in the following way:
>>
>> The pop filters should get the emails from my ISP and should  forward it 
>> to
>> my Exchange Server, filtering out the Spam. OK, this should be no 
>> Problem
>
> Are you saying that you want SpamBayes to collect mail from a POP  server 
> and forward it, classified, to an Exchange server, without the  use of a 
> mail client?  SpamBayes doesn't have the ability to collect  mail; you'll 
> have to use something like fetchmail to do that.  Once  you've got it, you 
> should be able to use sb_filter to classify it,  and then something else 
> (maybe sendmail?) to get it to the Exchange  server.
>
>> Is it Possible to use the Imap filter to train the pop filter ?
>
> As long as only one process has the database open for write access at 
> once you can use whatever combination of the SpamBayes scripts to  train 
> and classify as you like.
>
>> I want to scan the Inbox of the Postboxes every night for good  Emails, 
>> and a
>> specific folder (where everyone has access) for bad emails. So  users 
>> could
>> move there Spam emails from the Inbox to this "Spam Folder".
>
> sb_imapfilter does this, yes (assuming that IMAP access to the  Exchange 
> server is enabled).
>
>> This "Spam folder" also has its own internal adress, so the POP  filter 
>> could forward
>> SPAM messages to this Spam Folder.
>
> Again, sb_server (nor any of the other SpamBayes scripts) doesn't 
> forward, deliver, or collect any mail.  You could setup the (e.g.) 
> sendmail solution to deliver it there, at least in theory.  Note that  any 
> false positives would, of course, be globally available.
>
>> The main thing is ... is it possible to train the
>> POP Filter with the use of the IMAP Filter, and how do I do this ?
>
> It seems to me that that's the least important thing here, but yes. 
> Simply give the scripts the same database to work with, and ensure  that 
> only one opens the database at a time.
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> 


From wendy.p at completephones.com  Mon Jan 30 22:26:51 2006
From: wendy.p at completephones.com (Wendy Price)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:26:51 -0700
Subject: [Spambayes] DELETED FOLDER
Message-ID: <2EA2E52DFDA2BB4E8EE3A0293D3F88CF20D462@cc02.complete.local>

I currently have spambytes on my computer but I accidentally deleted my
junk suspects folder and don't know how to get it back, I have tried
uninstalling the s/w then putting it back on and that didn't work I must
be missing a step.  Can you give me some direction on what to do?
Thanks

 

Thank you and Have a Great Day

 

Wendy Price

Complete Communications

Bay 2, 5205-50 Avenue

Leduc, AB  T9E 6T2

Phone:  780-986-3330

Fax:  780-986-0024

 

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From peter.rondina at yale.edu  Mon Jan 30 22:26:43 2006
From: peter.rondina at yale.edu (Peter Rondina)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:26:43 -0500
Subject: [Spambayes] Eudora configuration
Message-ID: <002201c625e3$de0e4980$d6208482@yu.yale.edu>

Hi,

 

I've been using SpamBayes w/ my Outlook and it's terrific.  If I could use
it also for Eudora, that would be FANTASTIC, but - and it's probably VERY
easy, I'm not quite sure how to do it.  I'm using WinXP.

 

I have some instructions from cvs.sourceforge.net - but it's still not clear
to me, or done in idiot-proof steps.

 

I understand the concept that a server (sb_server?) has to intercept
incoming mails to peruse, before it passes them along to the actual POP3
server, but I really don't know where to do that.

 

I've installed Python (and Mark Hammond's extensions), and now I have a
SpamByes config tools in the taskbar.  It's just not clear to me what to
fill in where.  I work best by examples, I guess where I don't have to know
WHY, I just do it.

 

Anyway, this is a bit of what it looks like now:

 

           

 

 

Or is it all done in the Eudora.ini?  I change PopServer=Sorcer (my PC
name), and likewise for SMTP?

 

 

DomainQualifier=

SMTPServer=mail.yale.edu

PopServer=prondina.mail.yale.edu

LoginName

 

Since I started this some days ago, and stopped in confusion, I've forgotten
exactly WHAT of Python is installed.  Where do I do:

net start pop3proxy  - or do I have to do it?

 

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Jan 30 23:50:42 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:50:42 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] DELETED FOLDER
In-Reply-To: <2EA2E52DFDA2BB4E8EE3A0293D3F88CF20D462@cc02.complete.local>
References: <2EA2E52DFDA2BB4E8EE3A0293D3F88CF20D462@cc02.complete.local>
Message-ID: <64FA6D36-23D4-4BDB-86FC-6E4DED1CE9AE@ihug.co.nz>

> I accidentally deleted my junk suspects folder and don?t know how  
> to get it back

Please see FAQ 3.13:

<http://spambayes.org/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder>

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
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http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan 31 00:05:51 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:05:51 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Eudora configuration
In-Reply-To: <002201c625e3$de0e4980$d6208482@yu.yale.edu>
References: <002201c625e3$de0e4980$d6208482@yu.yale.edu>
Message-ID: <03715AAB-921B-4618-B422-285A7A9FCAD7@ihug.co.nz>

> I have some instructions from cvs.sourceforge.net ? but it?s still  
> not clear to me, or done in idiot-proof steps.

That's a strange place to look for instructions?  Did something point  
you there, or was it a guess?  The instructions that come with the  
software when you download it are the best place to start.  There's  
also a "SpamBayes with Outlook Express for Dummies" FAQ which mostly  
applies to other mailers as well.

> I?ve installed Python (and Mark Hammond?s extensions),

Any reason why you didn't just install the binary version?

> It?s just not clear to me what to fill in where.  I work best by  
> examples, I guess where I don?t have to know WHY, I just do it?
The text to the right of the options is meant to provide both 'what'  
and 'why' (there's certainly examples for most of the main ones).  If  
one of them isn't clear, please let us know (ideally with a  
suggestion for better wording).

>  Anyway, this is a bit of what it looks like now:

You don't really need to use the SMTP proxy, so you can leave that  
out if you like.  8110 is a very odd port for a SMTP proxy, too - 25  
would be normal, or something like 8025 if 25 is already taken.  The  
rest looks fine, assuming that prondina.mail.yale.edu is your  
incoming mail (POP) server and mail.yale.edu is your outgoing (SMTP)  
server.

> Or is it all done in the Eudora.ini?  I change PopServer=Sorcer (my  
> PC name), and likewise for SMTP?

Just use the Eudora GUI to change the account to connect to  
"localhost" (you can use the machine's name if you would rather).   
You don't need to manually edit the configuration file (unless you  
have more than one incoming mail server to connect to, in which case  
each proxy needs to run on a separate port, and Eudora's GUI (for no  
apparent reason) doesn't let you select the port).

> Since I started this some days ago, and stopped in confusion, I?ve  
> forgotten exactly WHAT of Python is installed.

Another reason the binary would be much simpler.

>  Where do I do:
> net start pop3proxy  - or do I have to do it?

If you use the binary, then it will install a shortcut in your  
startup items folder that will take care of all of this.  If you want  
to use the source, then you need to run "python sb_server.py" to  
start sb_server.  If you want to use the Windows service (you don't  
really need to), then (assuming you have already installed it), you  
use "net start pop3proxy" to start it, yes.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan 31 07:02:02 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:02:02 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Filtering Messages
In-Reply-To: <20060126210453.DB5651E4002@bag.python.org>
References: <20060126210453.DB5651E4002@bag.python.org>
Message-ID: <AF06D074-C0F8-44D6-889F-89903BC4DE98@ihug.co.nz>

> I am having difficult filtering my mail, could you suggest what I  
> should do.

You could try installing SpamBayes:

<http://spambayes.org>

If you have done that, and are having trouble, please ask a more  
specific question (the auto-response from the list that you would  
have received explains what information you should include).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan 31 07:09:02 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:09:02 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Installation error + Script error
In-Reply-To: <58BB8901-DCFF-4D39-AA04-7B5EB255D232@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <303ACB4B-A01D-41BA-B90F-82C39D637AAB@yahoo.co.uk>
	<69F0282C-9B7C-4C60-B381-9860DA083535@ihug.co.nz>
	<8DDCDA6C-BED5-45C8-A6C8-F086E719AAFF@yahoo.co.uk>
	<DA0D82EC-EA1C-4B4A-86B3-94DBBD7DB197@ihug.co.nz>
	<58BB8901-DCFF-4D39-AA04-7B5EB255D232@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <61D7CC23-9D04-4A05-A8DD-41400378157D@ihug.co.nz>

> i managed to get the thing working, and it gave me an unsure  
> classification because there wasn't any training done. Am i right  
> to say then, that in order to train, i'll just use the options  
> found in the sb_filter.py script?

That's simplest, yes.  (There are other options, like using  
sb_upload.py with sb_server.py, or sb_mboxtrain.py).

> is it difficult to install the latest version of python - i looked  
> at the python.org, and there's no installer, but just UNIX compile  
> - version 2.4.2. is that what you are talking about in the previous  
> maiL?

It's not at all difficult to install.  You download it, decompress  
it, and do "./configure", "make", and "make install" and it's done.   
ActiveState have a prebuilt version for OS X if you would prefer  
that.  Fink & DarwinPorts might too, I'm not sure.

<http://activestate.com>

> eventually, i need to combine this python script, get out the  
> number of ham and spam tokens, and pass this to a matlab code which  
> is converted into C++. i heard that it's actually possible to  
> "embed" C++ into python - have you done it before?

Yes, but it would probably be much simpler to just call a Python  
script and read the output.  Or if you're wanting to run C++ code in  
Python, then to call a compiled C++ application and read the output.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
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From wwjd2525 at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 31 16:40:28 2006
From: wwjd2525 at yahoo.co.uk (Christopher Isaiah Fun)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:40:28 +0800
Subject: [Spambayes] Installation error + Script error
In-Reply-To: <61D7CC23-9D04-4A05-A8DD-41400378157D@ihug.co.nz>
References: <303ACB4B-A01D-41BA-B90F-82C39D637AAB@yahoo.co.uk>
	<69F0282C-9B7C-4C60-B381-9860DA083535@ihug.co.nz>
	<8DDCDA6C-BED5-45C8-A6C8-F086E719AAFF@yahoo.co.uk>
	<DA0D82EC-EA1C-4B4A-86B3-94DBBD7DB197@ihug.co.nz>
	<58BB8901-DCFF-4D39-AA04-7B5EB255D232@yahoo.co.uk>
	<61D7CC23-9D04-4A05-A8DD-41400378157D@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <55DD6D9C-FF1D-4E75-BA6F-CEFDF99DF63C@yahoo.co.uk>

Regards to your third point:

meaning I'll do a python script to count the number of tokens and  
give the output? The only option I saw in options.py is to give the  
tokens used as the evidence. which one should i look into in order to  
find out the number of spam and ham tokens that were actually used?



Warmest Regards,
Christopher Isaiah Fun
~ Faith is believing in God when life tells you otherwise.


On 31 Jan 2006, at 2:09 PM, Tony Meyer wrote:

>> i managed to get the thing working, and it gave me an unsure  
>> classification because there wasn't any training done. Am i right  
>> to say then, that in order to train, i'll just use the options  
>> found in the sb_filter.py script?
>
> That's simplest, yes.  (There are other options, like using  
> sb_upload.py with sb_server.py, or sb_mboxtrain.py).
>
>> is it difficult to install the latest version of python - i looked  
>> at the python.org, and there's no installer, but just UNIX compile  
>> - version 2.4.2. is that what you are talking about in the  
>> previous maiL?
>
> It's not at all difficult to install.  You download it, decompress  
> it, and do "./configure", "make", and "make install" and it's  
> done.  ActiveState have a prebuilt version for OS X if you would  
> prefer that.  Fink & DarwinPorts might too, I'm not sure.
>
> <http://activestate.com>
>
>> eventually, i need to combine this python script, get out the  
>> number of ham and spam tokens, and pass this to a matlab code  
>> which is converted into C++. i heard that it's actually possible  
>> to "embed" C++ into python - have you done it before?
>
> Yes, but it would probably be much simpler to just call a Python  
> script and read the output.  Or if you're wanting to run C++ code  
> in Python, then to call a compiled C++ application and read the  
> output.
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your  
> replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>
>


		
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan 31 21:13:56 2006
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:13:56 +1300
Subject: [Spambayes] Installation error + Script error
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>>>> eventually, i need to combine this python script, get out the  
>>>> number of ham and spam tokens, and pass this to a matlab code  
>>>> which is converted into C++. i heard that it's actually possible  
>>>> to "embed" C++ into python - have you done it before?
>>>
>>> Yes, but it would probably be much simpler to just call a Python  
>>> script and read the output.  Or if you're wanting to run C++ code  
>>> in Python, then to call a compiled C++ application and read the  
>>> output.
>
> meaning I'll do a python script to count the number of tokens and  
> give the output? The only option I saw in options.py is to give the  
> tokens used as the evidence. which one should i look into in order  
> to find out the number of spam and ham tokens that were actually used?

I meant you could use your own script.  Something like (untested):

---
import sys

from spambayes.storage import open_storage
from spambayes.tokenizer import tokenize

# Open existing token database.
db = open_storage("db.name", "pickle", "r") # or "dbm", or "zodb", etc

# Read the message from stdin, and tokenize and classify it.
message_text = sys.stdin.read()
all_tokens = tokenize(message_text)
classification, clues = db.spamprob(all_tokens, True)

# Separate out the clues into ham & spam.
ham_clues = [clue for (clue, prob) in clues if prob <= 0.5]
spam_clues = [clue for (clue, prob) in clues if prob > 0.5]

# Print out the results to stdout.
print len(ham_clues)
print len(spam_clues)
---

=Tony.Meyer

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