From aga at jlw.com Tue Aug 1 22:29:51 2006 From: aga at jlw.com (Alan Arndt) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:29:51 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images Message-ID: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> Over the past month or more I have noticed a large increase in the amount of spam I receive with the Spam text translated into images. The actual text of the message is benign gibberish designed to pass Bayesian filters. They have even taken the step of inserting random bits into the image so that no two images have the same signature. I've received many multiple messages with the same fundamental image. I haven't thought of a decent way to filter these types of things. I hope someone else can and that it can get implemented into SpamBayes. Until recently I was very please that only a few messages a day (of 20-50) make it through. Does anyone have any good suggestions? I can certainly send plenty of samples if someone needs them Thanks, Alan Arndt alan five eighty two at do it now.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060801/f7623486/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Wed Aug 2 01:29:20 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:29:20 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> References: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> Message-ID: <17615.58320.143373.790324@montanaro.dyndns.org> Alan> I haven't thought of a decent way to filter these types of things. Alan> I hope someone else can and that it can get implemented into Alan> SpamBayes.... Alan> Does anyone have any good suggestions? This topic has come up several times in the past. There is, as yet, no perfect way to identify these sorts of spams. The last time it came up (maybe a month ago), optical character recognition (OCR) came up as a possible means of getting at the text. Unfortunately, the open source tools available fall far short of the mark as far as accuracy is concerned. Perhaps image size would be a helpful clue. I don't know if anyone has tried that before. Skip From aga at jlw.com Wed Aug 2 01:59:23 2006 From: aga at jlw.com (Alan Arndt) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:59:23 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <17615.58320.143373.790324@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <004301c6b5c6$83d27e00$6701a8c0@Caladan> Skip, Thanks. I did look through the last three months of forum archive. I didn't specifically see this addressed. I did notice some comments about porn images, etc. I don't think the image size works. I just saved about 20 of my most recent spam images and while the vast majority (1/2) are pushing a stock and most of them are pretty similar in size they aren't all the same. The other 10 images were all of quite varying sizes, even 3 with exactly the same text were deliberately made quite different in size. I was amazed that they had gone to the extent of adding random bits into each of the images, but I guess they knew someone would try to compare them. I am not an expert at looking at the raw data of the e-mail. I can only hope that there is some way they reference them that might be different from images sent to me by friends. But I'm not optimistic that one can determine that by the attributes of the image or the rest of the message itself. So that does lead to examining the image. The main difference is immediately obvious. It's not a picture, it's just some formatted text put into an image. Given that one could hope that some simple image analysis process could quickly classify them as different, or even make it a learning process like the rest of the spam filtering. The big downside is that image analysis is expensive compute and time wise. Not to mention all the various formats of images that the tool would need to process. Perhaps that is constrained by limitations of what e-mail programs will actually render. All in all, not a good outlook it seems. -Alan -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:29 PM To: Alan Arndt Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam in Images Alan> I haven't thought of a decent way to filter these types of things. Alan> I hope someone else can and that it can get implemented into Alan> SpamBayes.... Alan> Does anyone have any good suggestions? This topic has come up several times in the past. There is, as yet, no perfect way to identify these sorts of spams. The last time it came up (maybe a month ago), optical character recognition (OCR) came up as a possible means of getting at the text. Unfortunately, the open source tools available fall far short of the mark as far as accuracy is concerned. Perhaps image size would be a helpful clue. I don't know if anyone has tried that before. Skip From Pickett.Ian at saugov.sa.gov.au Wed Aug 2 02:29:28 2006 From: Pickett.Ian at saugov.sa.gov.au (Pickett, Ian (PIRSA)) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:59:28 +0930 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambaye problem Message-ID: <630EE4FCEEA8624ABA96038B2AF8683601BAB3EF@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> On initial startup Spambayes is doing a good job at filtering out the spam messages and moving them into the spam folders. However if I manually select a message and press "Delete as Spam" nothing appears to happen. I'm currently moving them into the 'Junk Email folder'. Similarly if i go into my 'Junk Suspects' folder, select a message and hit "Delete as Spam" nothing appears to happen. What do I need to do? Ian Pickett FarmBis State Coordinator [O] 8226 0304 [M] 0401 122 070 Level 9, 101 Grenfell Street Adelaide 5001 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060802/42e7243c/attachment.htm From tim.peters at gmail.com Wed Aug 2 03:09:50 2006 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:09:50 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> References: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> Message-ID: <1f7befae0608011809rf7af374qf357c02b1d8d3c83@mail.gmail.com> [Alan Arndt] > Over the past month or more I have noticed a large increase in the amount of > spam I receive with the Spam text translated into images. The actual text > of the message is benign gibberish designed to pass Bayesian filters. They > have even taken the step of inserting random bits into the image so that no > two images have the same signature. I've received many multiple messages > with the same fundamental image. Yup, and they're learning to avoid other stupid mistakes too; e.g., the gibberish /changes/ from one message to the next, and so does the forged sender address. While randomization isn't new in spam, most spammers have traditionally done a poor job on it. For example, for a long time it was very effective to train on the gibberish, since multiple spammers appeared to use randomization software that produced the /same/ gibberish time after time. Likewise they tended to forge the same sender addresses repeatedly. Most spam still does, for that matter. But some spammers have gotten much smarter. > I haven't thought of a decent way to filter these types of things. Me neiither. They're never false negatives for me, but I reliably get a few unsures every day from what appears to be the same pump-and-dump scam-spam source (these are messages hard-selling specific penny stocks -- the scammer hopes to drive up the market price ("pump") by stimulating demand, and then sell quick at a profit ("dump")). It's very much in the spirit of SpamBayes to generate tokens for what the user /sees/, but in these cases we have no idea what the user sees (except for the gibberish text). BTW, it's typical of pump-and-dump scams that they're not trying to extract money /directly / from you (they're trying to get you to buy a stock on the open market), so we don't even get a URL or mailing address to tokenize. > I hope someone else can and that it can get implemented into SpamBayes. It's discussed here (maybe more so on spambayes-dev, the related developers' mailing list) regularly, but AFAICT extracting readable text from images is a complicated and expensive job. If someone finds a programmatic way to do it cheaply and with reasonable accuracy, I'm sure SB could make excellent use of it. From skip at pobox.com Wed Aug 2 03:09:33 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:09:33 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <004301c6b5c6$83d27e00$6701a8c0@Caladan> References: <17615.58320.143373.790324@montanaro.dyndns.org> <004301c6b5c6$83d27e00$6701a8c0@Caladan> Message-ID: <17615.64333.292529.575430@montanaro.dyndns.org> Alan> I don't think the image size works. I just saved about 20 of my Alan> most recent spam images and while the vast majority (1/2) are Alan> pushing a stock and most of them are pretty similar in size they Alan> aren't all the same. We use a trick for sizes that tends to work pretty well. Instead of noting the precise size, we note the log of the size in base 2 and then throw away the fraction. I just implemented that for image sizes and got these results using my current training database: token,nspam,nham,spam prob image-size:2**5,1,0,0.844827586207 image-size:2**6,4,1,0.5 image-size:2**7,4,1,0.5 image-size:2**8,6,0,0.96511627907 image-size:2**9,3,0,0.934782608696 image-size:2**10,7,1,0.620791675168 image-size:2**11,9,0,0.97619047619 image-size:2**12,13,0,0.983271375465 image-size:2**13,14,0,0.984429065744 image-size:2**14,53,0,0.995790458372 image-size:2**15,19,1,0.813543282782 That doesn't necessarily mean much without some testing. I don't tend to get a lot of ham with images. I'll create a patch and add it to the SpamBayes website so others can try it out. Skip From tim at aterraform.com Wed Aug 2 03:57:12 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:57:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <1f7befae0608011809rf7af374qf357c02b1d8d3c83@mail.gmail.com> References: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> <1f7befae0608011809rf7af374qf357c02b1d8d3c83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44D00678.90706@aterraform.com> I wonder if the rgb histogram of an image would provide any interesting opportunities for "tokens?" In a real photographic image, that curve is generally smooth, and oftentimes flat or a bell-curve, with some relatively large number of rgb value counts above some threshold.. I would think that in a spam image the histogram would be much more spikey with only a few rgb value counts above some percentage of the of the total pixels in the picture. Tim Peters wrote: >[Alan Arndt] > > >>Over the past month or more I have noticed a large increase in the amount of >>spam I receive with the Spam text translated into images. The actual text >>of the message is benign gibberish designed to pass Bayesian filters. They >>have even taken the step of inserting random bits into the image so that no >>two images have the same signature. I've received many multiple messages >>with the same fundamental image. >> >> > >Yup, and they're learning to avoid other stupid mistakes too; e.g., >the gibberish /changes/ from one message to the next, and so does the >forged sender address. While randomization isn't new in spam, most >spammers have traditionally done a poor job on it. For example, for a >long time it was very effective to train on the gibberish, since >multiple spammers appeared to use randomization software that produced >the /same/ gibberish time after time. Likewise they tended to forge >the same sender addresses repeatedly. Most spam still does, for that >matter. But some spammers have gotten much smarter. > > > >>I haven't thought of a decent way to filter these types of things. >> >> > >Me neiither. They're never false negatives for me, but I reliably get >a few unsures every day from what appears to be the same pump-and-dump >scam-spam source (these are messages hard-selling specific penny >stocks -- the scammer hopes to drive up the market price ("pump") by >stimulating demand, and then sell quick at a profit ("dump")). > >It's very much in the spirit of SpamBayes to generate tokens for what >the user /sees/, but in these cases we have no idea what the user sees >(except for the gibberish text). > >BTW, it's typical of pump-and-dump scams that they're not trying to >extract money /directly / from you (they're trying to get you to buy a >stock on the open market), so we don't even get a URL or mailing >address to tokenize. > > > >> I hope someone else can and that it can get implemented into SpamBayes. >> >> > >It's discussed here (maybe more so on spambayes-dev, the related >developers' mailing list) regularly, but AFAICT extracting readable >text from images is a complicated and expensive job. If someone finds >a programmatic way to do it cheaply and with reasonable accuracy, I'm >sure SB could make excellent use of it. >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > From skip at pobox.com Wed Aug 2 04:05:26 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:05:26 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images Message-ID: <17616.2150.961009.52929@montanaro.dyndns.org> I'll create a patch and add it to the SpamBayes website so others can try it out. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1532856&group_id=61702&atid=498105 Skip From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Aug 2 03:41:59 2006 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:41:59 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambaye problem In-Reply-To: <630EE4FCEEA8624ABA96038B2AF8683601BAB3EF@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> Message-ID: <032e01c6b5d4$d90c6440$160a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> [Ian Pickett] > On initial startup Spambayes is doing a good job at filtering out the > spam messages and moving them into the spam folders. > However if I manually select a message and press "Delete as Spam" > nothing appears to happen. I'm currently moving them into the 'Junk Email folder'. > Similarly if i go into my 'Junk Suspects' folder, select a message and hit > "Delete as Spam" nothing appears to happen. > What do I need to do? Please see the Troubleshooting Guide (Under the 'Help' submenu in the 'Spambayes' dropdown on your toolbar) and find the information about locating your log file, then attach that logfile in another message to the spambayes list. Cheers, Mark -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In particular, if you find that you frequently get messages that are somewhat below the cutoff for "Certain Spam" and that such messages are never ham, you can lower that cutoff. It's set fairly high by default to avoid incorrectly classifying ham as spam. (In the absurd extreme case, you'd set it so low that all messages were classified as spam. This literally satisfies your request to "catch the most spam," at the cost of treating your ham as spam as well, which I doubt is what you want.) If you're using the Outlook plug-in, you can adjust the thresholds for Possible Spam and Certain Spam on the Filtering tab of the SpamBayes Manager. Click the SpamBayes button on the Outlook toolbar, select SpamBayes Manager... from the menu that pops up, and click the Filtering tab. There are lots of obscure settings that you can mess with, but unless you really know what you're doing, you're unlikely to improve the classification; the defaults are well-chosen. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of David Gregory Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 8:52 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes Settings What settings should I set SpamBayes at to catch the most spam? David L. Gregory Environmental Science Technician EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY 1615 North St. Mary's Street San Antonio, Texas 78215 Phone:(210) 222-2204 Fax:(210) 222-9869 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060802/44926d99/attachment.html From peterb at zeta.org.au Thu Aug 3 00:42:24 2006 From: peterb at zeta.org.au (Peter Barker) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:42:24 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200608030842.24626.peterb@zeta.org.au> For my spam and non-spam, a good indicator is that I very seldom receive non-spam messages with a .gif image attached (attachments are usually .jpg or various document types). And if a wanted mail has a .gif attachment it has much more text than the usual gibberish in the spam messages (because it is usually just a company logo or similar, and not essential to the message). So if spambayes can score attachment type and text size it may help. Regards, Peter Barker From skip at pobox.com Thu Aug 3 05:54:51 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:54:51 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <200608030842.24626.peterb@zeta.org.au> References: <200608030842.24626.peterb@zeta.org.au> Message-ID: <17617.29579.37984.165031@montanaro.dyndns.org> Peter> For my spam and non-spam, a good indicator is that I very seldom Peter> receive non-spam messages with a .gif image attached (attachments Peter> are usually .jpg or various document types). And if a wanted mail Peter> has a .gif attachment it has much more text than the usual Peter> gibberish in the spam messages (because it is usually just a Peter> company logo or similar, and not essential to the message). So if Peter> spambayes can score attachment type and text size it may help. True, but for those people with correspondents who do send them mail with image attachments ("Subject: Cute pictures of my new granddaughter"), the presence or absence of images may fall around the middle and thus either not be used at all, or only provide a negligible bump in one direction or the other. Scoring images can run the entire gamut, from running OCR software to (try to) extract the text it contains to ignoring them altogether. Right now we note the presence of images by their content-type. My image size patch adds another measurement. We probably can develop other measures. My feeble attempts to use the open source OCR tool ocrad yielded no useful results. Do we want to require PIL and start digging into the images that way? Skip From tim at aterraform.com Thu Aug 3 06:22:41 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:22:41 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <17617.29579.37984.165031@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <200608030842.24626.peterb@zeta.org.au> <17617.29579.37984.165031@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <44D17A11.10503@aterraform.com> I've got a bit of experience with the PIL, if I get a few spare minutes, maybe I'll mess with something. Can someone send me a typical spam image? I don't seem to get them, ever. skip at pobox.com wrote: > Peter> For my spam and non-spam, a good indicator is that I very seldom > Peter> receive non-spam messages with a .gif image attached (attachments > Peter> are usually .jpg or various document types). And if a wanted mail > Peter> has a .gif attachment it has much more text than the usual > Peter> gibberish in the spam messages (because it is usually just a > Peter> company logo or similar, and not essential to the message). So if > Peter> spambayes can score attachment type and text size it may help. > >True, but for those people with correspondents who do send them mail with >image attachments ("Subject: Cute pictures of my new granddaughter"), the >presence or absence of images may fall around the middle and thus either not >be used at all, or only provide a negligible bump in one direction or the >other. > >Scoring images can run the entire gamut, from running OCR software to (try >to) extract the text it contains to ignoring them altogether. Right now we >note the presence of images by their content-type. My image size patch adds >another measurement. We probably can develop other measures. My feeble >attempts to use the open source OCR tool ocrad yielded no useful results. >Do we want to require PIL and start digging into the images that way? > >Skip > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > From tim.peters at gmail.com Thu Aug 3 07:22:26 2006 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:22:26 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <44D17A11.10503@aterraform.com> References: <200608030842.24626.peterb@zeta.org.au> <17617.29579.37984.165031@montanaro.dyndns.org> <44D17A11.10503@aterraform.com> Message-ID: <1f7befae0608022222q1d7f75c5j710b866e8bb00e36@mail.gmail.com> [Tim Stone] > I've got a bit of experience with the PIL, if I get a few spare minutes, > maybe I'll mess with something. Can someone send me a typical spam > image? I just forwarded to you the most recent pump-&-dump scam I trained on. The pitch is in a GIF displaying colored text, and there's a variety of "visible" gibberish phrases. It's possible that even cheap palette histogram analysis could generate "interesting" tokens for these GIFs. For example, the GIF in the one I sent is 429x590, but only 7 palette values are used more than 1000 times: >>> pprint.pprint(im.getcolors()) [(11631, 0), (1829, 1), (1104, 2), (2584, 3), (2525, 4), (1, 7), (2, 9), (1, 15), (1, 42), (1, 57), (1, 65), (1, 70), (1, 77), (1, 78), (2, 79), (1, 80), (2, 82), (1, 89), (1, 94), (2, 99), (1, 107), (1, 108), (1, 113), (1, 125), (1, 126), (1, 129), (974, 149), (901, 155), (1, 156), (1, 157), (1, 161), (1, 165), (1, 167), (1, 178), (1, 183), (1, 185), (1, 188), (1, 192), (1, 196), (2, 200), (1, 205), (1, 220), (1, 225), (1, 228), (1, 235), (1, 237), (1, 240), (1, 242), (2, 243), (1, 244), (1, 250), (1785, 252), (229727, 255)] I expect that the relatively huge number of palette colors used only once or twice is something they randomize to prevent exact matches, and that this is something that doesn't happen in "a real" GIF. > I don't seem to get them, ever. Which made me check: I don't either :-) By which I mean it appears that /all/ messages of this kind I've gotten have come via an email account with a former employer, which they forgot to shut down. So there's an obvious way for me to stop getting more of this kind of spam :-) From scott at austland.com.au Thu Aug 3 08:28:39 2006 From: scott at austland.com.au (Scott Boswell) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:28:39 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Mulitple email accounts in Outlook Message-ID: <20060803062839.DC226760E58@vscan01.westnet.com.au> Hi, I've just installed Spambayes after reading about it in this months PC User mag. looks like a refreshingly good product - well done! I'd like to know if it is possible for Spambayes to scan multiple email accounts that come to a single outlook client? i.e. I have set up outlook on a single pc to receive mail into a single inbox from : scott at austland.com.au, scott at bigpond.com & scott at hotmail.com and so far Spambayes is only scanning through scott at austland.com I look forward to your thoughts. Regards, Scott Boswell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060803/32b4e8e4/attachment.html From paul.john.wright at btinternet.com Thu Aug 3 13:35:07 2006 From: paul.john.wright at btinternet.com (Paul J Wright) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:35:07 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Message-ID: I have installed Spambayes in my new PC. After a while I get a message "There appears to be a problem with Spambayes. Please run Spambayes manager and reconfigure filter. I cannot access the manager. Spambayes programme on start menu goes to Spambayes outlook addin then onto a choice of troubleshooting guide or About Spambayes. Having opted for the programme self learning option it is also filtering messages that I do not want filtered and wish to change the configuration. I have been through the trouble shooting menu but am ubable to resolve the problem without access to the manager. Can you help? PAUL WRIGHT From paul.john.wright at btinternet.com Thu Aug 3 13:50:45 2006 From: paul.john.wright at btinternet.com (Paul J Wright) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:50:45 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Paul J Wright [mailto:paul.john.wright at btinternet.com] Sent: 03 August 2006 12:35 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: SpamBayes I have installed Spambayes in my new PC. After a while I get a message "There appears to be a problem with Spambayes. Please run Spambayes manager and reconfigure filter. I cannot access the manager. Spambayes programme on start menu goes to Spambayes outlook addin then onto a choice of troubleshooting guide or About Spambayes. Having opted for the programme self learning option it is also filtering messages that I do not want filtered and wish to change the configuration. I have been through the trouble shooting menu but am ubable to resolve the problem without access to the manager. Can you help? PAUL WRIGHT Sorry got the the toolbar and manager. I assume it will retrain itself now. Can you advise how to stop it from filtering messages incorrectly? From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Thu Aug 3 14:53:04 2006 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:53:04 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500736732C@SPIKE.city> > From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org] On > Behalf Of skip at pobox.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:55 PM > To: Peter Barker > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam in Images > > > Peter> For my spam and non-spam, a good indicator is that I very seldom > Peter> receive non-spam messages with a .gif image attached (attachments > Peter> are usually .jpg or various document types). And if a wanted mail > Peter> has a .gif attachment it has much more text than the usual > Peter> gibberish in the spam messages (because it is usually just a > Peter> company logo or similar, and not essential to the message). So if > Peter> spambayes can score attachment type and text size it may help. > > True, but for those people with correspondents who do send > them mail with image attachments ("Subject: Cute pictures of > my new granddaughter"), the presence or absence of images may > fall around the middle and thus either not be used at all, or > only provide a negligible bump in one direction or the other. But Peter's point is that a picture of somebody's granddaughter won't be a GIF image; it will be a JPEG. Digital cameras don't use GIF, and hardly anybody else does either. Except spammers, who presumably care less about image quality than about file size. I suppose the result of scoring GIF images as spam will be that spammers will switch to JPEG. But anything that makes their lives more complicated is all to the good. From dhaval at patel.sh Thu Aug 3 15:36:24 2006 From: dhaval at patel.sh (Dhaval Patel) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:36:24 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] spam bayes db not changing Message-ID: I am having a problem with my spambayes setup. Everyday I put the spam into the spam folder and ham into the ham folder and train the db. Unfortunately, messages with the same subject make it into my inbox. I have been keeping an eye on the db file and notice that after a training, the timestamp is updated but the filesize is the same. Is this normal? The command that I use to train the db is "sb_mboxtrain -d hammiefile -g /path/to/goodemail -s /path/to/spam" Does anybody have any advice on what to look for? Thanks, Dhaval From skip at pobox.com Thu Aug 3 16:25:19 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:25:19 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500736732C@SPIKE.city> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500736732C@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: <17618.1871.255395.896965@montanaro.dyndns.org> Bob> But Peter's point is that a picture of somebody's granddaughter Bob> won't be a GIF image; it will be a JPEG. Digital cameras don't use Bob> GIF, and hardly anybody else does either. Except spammers, who Bob> presumably care less about image quality than about file size. Sure, but just like everything else, the spamminess of specific image types is highly user-specific. I dont have any granddaughters (yet, thank God), so at best JPEGS are a wash. GIFs and PNGs look spammy though: % spamcounts -r image/ token,nspam,nham,spam prob content-type:image/gif,64,2,0.885801412431 content-type:image/jpeg,3,1,0.5 content-type:image/png,5,0,0.95871559633 Still, the image type is just one token. Almost no matter how strongly spammy it is, it's likely to be overwhelmed by whatever other tokens exist in the message. Skip From skip at pobox.com Thu Aug 3 16:34:19 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:34:19 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spam bayes db not changing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17618.2411.283170.655454@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dhaval> I have been keeping an eye on the db file and notice that after Dhaval> a training, the timestamp is updated but the filesize is the Dhaval> same. Is this normal? Yes. The database file isn't a simple text file. There are lots of "holes" in the file to tuck new tokens, and for existing tokens all that happens most of the time is that the count for the token increases. Dhaval> Does anybody have any advice on what to look for? Try running sb_dbexpimp.py before and after training, then compare the output: sb_dbexpimp.py -e -f bayes1.csv sb_mboxtrain.py ... sb_dbexpimp.py -e -f bayes2.csv diff -u bayes1.csv bayes2.csv | more Skip From NewsDump1 at dessergroup.com Thu Aug 3 19:20:24 2006 From: NewsDump1 at dessergroup.com (Les Desser) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:20:24 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <1f7befae0608011809rf7af374qf357c02b1d8d3c83@mail.gmail.com> References: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> <1f7befae0608011809rf7af374qf357c02b1d8d3c83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: In article <1f7befae0608011809rf7af374qf357c02b1d8d3c83 at mail.gmail.com>, Tim Peters Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:09:50 writes >but AFAICT extracting readable text from images is a complicated and >expensive job. If someone finds a programmatic way to do it cheaply >and with reasonable accuracy, I'm sure SB could make excellent use of >it. The samples I have been getting this last month have the image chopped up into many separate jig-saw pieces. I am told that Outlook will kindly stitch it all together to show a single image but my safe email client just shows the separate files. I presume this would complicate analysis even further. What I find strange is that this type of spam represents 99% of the spam I receive (20 or so a day). It seems to be the only spam that manages to regularly get through the Brightmail filter that my ISP uses. If they can't nail the problem then I doubt if there is much to be done here. -- Les Desser (The Reply-to address IS valid) From dhaval at patel.sh Thu Aug 3 20:24:56 2006 From: dhaval at patel.sh (Dhaval Patel) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:24:56 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] training suggestions Message-ID: How do other people on this list setup their environment so that training more accurate and simple for their users? My users are not technical and they do not understand how spambayes actually works. They just know to put spam and ham in the appropriate folders and every night it will get trained. I want to make things as easy for them as possible. Ofcourse between the time they finish sorting their emails and the time that the training process runs, there might be misclassifications which will affect the training for the worse. Sometimes they might not have a check to sort out the spams and hams for a few days which is very bad for the training. I also know that training the same messages twice is not a good thing. Are there flags which will not train any message which has already been trained? I am sure I am not the old peson who deals with this. If possible, it would be helpful if you show me the flags you use when training initially after a fresh db is made, and the flags you for ongoing training. Thanks, Dhaval From skip at pobox.com Thu Aug 3 21:31:04 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:31:04 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] training suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17618.20216.169459.940419@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dhaval> I also know that training the same messages twice is not a good Dhaval> thing. Are there flags which will not train any message which Dhaval> has already been trained? Dunno, but in the contrib directory of the CVS repository (does contrib make it into distributions?) there is a fuzzy checksum program (pycksum.py) I wrote a long time ago based upon a similar tool developed by the SpamAssassin folks. If you pipe your mails through it before training it might do a reasonable job of deleting putative duplicates. If they are true duplicates you can do something similar, just replace the guts of the generate_checksum() function with something like md5.checksum(). Dhaval> If possible, it would be helpful if you show me the flags you Dhaval> use when training initially after a fresh db is made, and the Dhaval> flags you for ongoing training. I never incrementally train. I use my train-to-exhaustion script (tte.py, also in the contrib directory) fronted by a small shell script that sets parameters, cleans the mails, etc. It doesn't sound like you do incremental training either. I don't expect you will be able to use it as-is, but I've attached it as something you can use as a starting point for tte.py experimentation. Skip -------------- next part -------------- #!/bin/bash # various generated files ## DB=$HOME/tmp/tte.db LOG=$HOME/tmp/tte.log # these are tighter than my actual scoring thresholds HC=${HC:-0.03} SC=${SC:-0.75} TTEPY=$HOME/src/spambayes/contrib/tte.py PYTHON=python EXPIMP=sb_dbexpimp.py UNHDR=sb_unheader.py # can override these from the environment but I never do... NEWHAM=${NEWHAM:-$HOME/tmp/newham} NEWSPAM=${NEWSPAM:-$HOME/tmp/newspam} # output of preliminary cleaning OLDHAM=${NEWHAM}.old OLDSPAM=${NEWSPAM}.old # ratio of spam to ham RATIO=${RATIO:-1:1} # there must be at least one new ham or spam message to consider retraining if [ -f $NEWHAM -o -f NEWSPAM ] ; then # clean up ham and spam collections, removing spambayes headers echo cleaning $NEWHAM touch $NEWHAM $UNHDR -p 'X-Hammie|X-Spam' $NEWHAM >> $OLDHAM chmod 600 $OLDHAM rm $NEWHAM echo cleaning $NEWSPAM touch $NEWSPAM $UNHDR -p 'X-Hammie|X-Spam' $NEWSPAM >> $OLDSPAM chmod 600 $OLDSPAM rm $NEWSPAM echo $TTEPY > $LOG if $PYTHON $TTEPY \ --ratio=$RATIO \ -g $OLDHAM \ -s $OLDSPAM \ -R \ -o Categorization:ham_cutoff:$HC \ -o Categorization:spam_cutoff:$SC \ -c .cull \ -v 2>> $LOG ; then chmod 600 $OLDHAM.cull $OLDSPAM.cull exit $? else echo "db generation failed - check tte.log" exit 1 fi else echo "nothing new to train on" fi From dhaval at patel.sh Thu Aug 3 22:04:08 2006 From: dhaval at patel.sh (Dhaval Patel) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:04:08 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] training suggestions In-Reply-To: <17618.20216.169459.940419@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: , Message-ID: Interesting. So now I am confused what the -f options is for. I dont use it because I dont want to retrain everything, just the ones that have NOT been trained yet. Am I wrong in assuming this? Now that I think about it, the best thing would be to do the following: 1. message comes in to the filter 2. filter sorts it as ham or spam 3. db is trained with this message ham or spam (just this one message) when the user sorts messages (put spam from inbox -> spam folder) 4. the changes to the db made in step 3 get undone and the message gets trained as spam (similarly if the user moved form spam folder -> inbox) Can spambayes do this? Can I specify just a message id or a list of message ids? ( I use maildir format mail storage) Thanks, Dhaval skip at pobox.com said: > > Dhaval> I also know that training the same messages twice is not a good > Dhaval> thing. Are there flags which will not train any message which > Dhaval> has already been trained? > > Dunno, but in the contrib directory of the CVS repository (does contrib make > it into distributions?) there is a fuzzy checksum program (pycksum.py) I > wrote a long time ago based upon a similar tool developed by the > SpamAssassin folks. If you pipe your mails through it before training it > might do a reasonable job of deleting putative duplicates. If they are true > duplicates you can do something similar, just replace the guts of the > generate_checksum() function with something like md5.checksum(). > > Dhaval> If possible, it would be helpful if you show me the flags you > Dhaval> use when training initially after a fresh db is made, and the > Dhaval> flags you for ongoing training. > > I never incrementally train. I use my train-to-exhaustion script (tte.py, > also in the contrib directory) fronted by a small shell script that sets > parameters, cleans the mails, etc. It doesn't sound like you do incremental > training either. I don't expect you will be able to use it as-is, but I've > attached it as something you can use as a starting point for tte.py > experimentation. > > Skip > > -- From skip at pobox.com Thu Aug 3 22:31:56 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:31:56 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] training suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17618.23868.401325.30564@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dhaval> So now I am confused what the -f options is for. I dont use it Dhaval> because I dont want to retrain everything, just the ones that Dhaval> have NOT been trained yet. Am I wrong in assuming this? My fault. Yes, if you want to do incremental training with sb_mboxtrain, then leave off the -f flag. The fact that you are training once a day threw me though. If incremental training is what you want to do, why not run sb_mboxtrain more frequently than daily? Dhaval> Now that I think about it, the best thing would be to do the Dhaval> following: Dhaval> 1. message comes in to the filter Dhaval> 2. filter sorts it as ham or spam Dhaval> 3. db is trained with this message ham or spam (just this one Dhaval> message) when the user sorts messages (put spam from inbox -> Dhaval> spam folder) Dhaval> 4. the changes to the db made in step 3 get undone and the Dhaval> message gets trained as spam (similarly if the user moved Dhaval> form spam folder -> inbox) Dhaval> Can spambayes do this? Can I specify just a message id or a list Dhaval> of message ids? ( I use maildir format mail storage) I'm not sure. Again, that's not the way I work. Nothing is ever trained automatically in my personal environment. If I see a message that is misclassified (either false negative, unsure or false positive) then I toss it into the appropriate training database. I never train on a message which was properly classified. I rerun tte sort of when I feel like it, maybe a few times a day, especially if I'm actively fiddling with things as I am now or if I've tossed out my training database together and am starting from scratch. Note also that I have the luxury of having a user population of one person. Sounds like you aren't so fortunate. Skip From dhaval at patel.sh Thu Aug 3 22:52:58 2006 From: dhaval at patel.sh (Dhaval Patel) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:52:58 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] training suggestions In-Reply-To: <17618.23868.401325.30564@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: , Message-ID: > My fault. Yes, if you want to do incremental training with sb_mboxtrain, > then leave off the -f flag. The fact that you are training once a day threw > me though. If incremental training is what you want to do, why not run > sb_mboxtrain more frequently than daily? I just trained manually and realize that it says trained 190 out of 190 messages even though there are only ~20 new messages since the last training. Is the output wrong? My problem with running it at all is misclassification. How do I get it to fix the ones that are misclassified? > > Dhaval> Now that I think about it, the best thing would be to do the > Dhaval> following: > > Dhaval> 1. message comes in to the filter > Dhaval> 2. filter sorts it as ham or spam > Dhaval> 3. db is trained with this message ham or spam (just this one > Dhaval> message) when the user sorts messages (put spam from inbox -> > Dhaval> spam folder) > Dhaval> 4. the changes to the db made in step 3 get undone and the > Dhaval> message gets trained as spam (similarly if the user moved > Dhaval> form spam folder -> inbox) > > Dhaval> Can spambayes do this? Can I specify just a message id or a list > Dhaval> of message ids? ( I use maildir format mail storage) > > I'm not sure. Again, that's not the way I work. Nothing is ever trained > automatically in my personal environment. If I see a message that is > misclassified (either false negative, unsure or false positive) then I toss > it into the appropriate training database. I never train on a message which > was properly classified. According to your last sentence, when I leave out the -f, I would also not train the message that was properly classified right? Or maybe not. How would/should incermental training be handled if the previous training occured with misclassifications? > > Note also that I have the luxury of having a user population of one person. > Sounds like you aren't so fortunate. My users are pretty good though. They dont have annoying questions or problems. :) Thanks, Dhaval -- From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Fri Aug 4 00:08:32 2006 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:08:32 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <067a01c6b749$5d4d7210$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> > start menu goes to Spambayes outlook addin then onto a choice of > troubleshooting guide or About Spambayes. As you are having trouble, I recommend the 'troubleshooting guide' and following the instructions you find there. Let us know if there is anything else would could have done to make it more obvious that you should have looked there before mailing. Mark From skip at pobox.com Fri Aug 4 01:54:17 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:54:17 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] training suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17618.36009.320621.278891@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dhaval> I just trained manually and realize that it says trained 190 out Dhaval> of 190 messages even though there are only ~20 new messages Dhaval> since the last training. Is the output wrong? It's been awhile since I last used sb_mboxtrain. I don't recall there ever being a problem with its counting though. I don't use Maildir though. Maybe there's some issue there. Dhaval> My problem with running it at all is misclassification. How do I Dhaval> get it to fix the ones that are misclassified? Which ones are misclassified? Do you want it to reclassify the mail in your users' inboxes or do *they* make classification mistakes (or a bit of both)? Dhaval> According to your last sentence, when I leave out the -f, I Dhaval> would also not train the message that was properly classified Dhaval> right? Or maybe not. How would/should incermental training be Dhaval> handled if the previous training occured with Dhaval> misclassifications? I don't know how your users build up their ham/spam databases. Let's assume for the moment that they simply save misclassified mail to one of two special mailboxes: ham and spam and that incoming mail that is classified as spam lands in a mailbox called inspam. They may well have many other mailboxes though. Your process might look like this: 1. Check user's ham and spam mailboxes. If they haven't been updated since the last run, quit. 2. Retrain (incremental or total, as suits your environment). 3. Check the user's other mailboxes. If any have been updated since the training run the day before, reclassify them. Any messages whose classification changes from unsure or ham to spam is migrated to the inspam mailbox. You're done. Users can check their inspam mailbox whenever they want to try and locate false positives. You might also give them an inham mailbox. If you rescore it, any messages which change score from spam to ham get moved there. I've never done anything for a group like this and don't know enough about your environment to do more than speculate about an eventual solution. Skip From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Aug 4 10:16:26 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:16:26 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Mulitple email accounts in Outlook In-Reply-To: <20060803062839.DC226760E58@vscan01.westnet.com.au> References: <20060803062839.DC226760E58@vscan01.westnet.com.au> Message-ID: <989BBBB3-9DDC-4FA6-B656-41F5E5EE2628@ihug.co.nz> > I?d like to know if it is possible for Spambayes to scan multiple > email accounts that come to a single outlook client? > > > > i.e. I have set up outlook on a single pc to receive mail into a > single inbox from : scott at austland.com.au, scott at bigpond.com & > scott at hotmail.com and so far Spambayes is only scanning through > scott at austland.com (I assume you're using the Outlook plug-in). The plug-in doesn't care how mail arrives at all - it just looks in whichever folders you designate and acts on any new messages that arrive. Perhaps you have mail from these accounts arriving in different folders? In that case, simply open up the SpamBayes Manager dialog, and on the Filtering tab select all the folders that should be filtered. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Aug 4 10:23:29 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:23:29 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <1f7befae0608022222q1d7f75c5j710b866e8bb00e36@mail.gmail.com> References: <200608030842.24626.peterb@zeta.org.au> <17617.29579.37984.165031@montanaro.dyndns.org> <44D17A11.10503@aterraform.com> <1f7befae0608022222q1d7f75c5j710b866e8bb00e36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: [Tim Stone] > I've got a bit of experience with the PIL, if I get a few spare > minutes, > maybe I'll mess with something. Can someone send me a typical spam > image? Does the recent increase in messages about this indicate that other people are interested in trying things out? As mentioned previously, I've been working on these for a while now (when I have the time ;)) and I can put up patches, utilities & result summaries if people are interested. I've generated tokens indicating the presence & type of images, sizes (width, height, total), and a variety of things using PIL. Nothing so far has helped more than hurt, and the closest made the size of the database balloon. I've been working with my own mail mostly, since many of the corpora around are old enough that these messages are pretty rare (I really ought to re-export my mail, I guess). I also put together a collection of tokenizations as one of my submissions for TREC2006 (it did ok, but not great, on the public corpora - still waiting on the private results). =Tony.Meyer From pauline at homestart-oxford.org.uk Fri Aug 4 10:38:41 2006 From: pauline at homestart-oxford.org.uk ( pauline walters) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:38:41 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Instalation problemsl... Message-ID: <000601c6b7a1$63bdf950$0201a8c0@HS2> Hi I have been trying to install SpamBayes 1.0.4 onto my machine, which runs Windows XP / Office 2003. I have downloaded and run versions from two different mirrors and direct from the link on the site, but none of them seems to work. The install wizard claims to have done its thing, but I can't get it to open with Outlook. Any help gratefully received! Thanks very much Becky pp Pauline --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0631-2, 02/08/2006 Tested on: 04/08/2006 09:38:48 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060804/8bb764eb/attachment.html From gerard.mennetrier at free.fr Fri Aug 4 13:34:46 2006 From: gerard.mennetrier at free.fr (Gerard Mennetrier) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:34:46 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam bayes Outlook error Message-ID: Hello, I have just installed Spam Bayes on Windows XP with Outlook. The installation went well, but when I start Outlook, there is the following message: There was an error initializing the Spam plugin. Spam filtering has been disabled Please re configure and re enable this plugin Error details: Failed to load bayes database I have followed your troubleshooting site instructions and checked that the plug-in is enabled in Outlook. I have re started Outlook, Re-booted the system, re installed Spam Bayes several times, without success. So, I report this error to you, And would appreciate any help or advice. Best regards, Gerard. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Spam filtering has been disabled Please re configure and re enable this plugin Error details: Failed to load bayes database I have followed your troubleshooting site instructions and checked that the plug-in is enabled in Outlook. I have re started Outlook, Re-booted the system, re installed Spam Bayes several times, without success. So, I report this error to you, And would appreciate any help or advice. Best regards, Gerard. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060804/03313d25/attachment.html From ai at tampabay.rr.com Fri Aug 4 14:53:09 2006 From: ai at tampabay.rr.com (Automotive Investments) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:53:09 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] program failed Message-ID: <000001c6b7c4$f13da5a0$0d0d150a@MIKER> I use the spam program for Outlook 2002. It stopped working yesterday. I looked for an uninstall feature in the add/remove programs and it was not there. How can I make the program work again or delete it? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060804/14827f02/attachment.htm From web_use_1 at roemling.org Fri Aug 4 19:43:12 2006 From: web_use_1 at roemling.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ralf_R=F6mling?=) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:43:12 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00e901c6b7ed$7690a180$14b2a8c0@daddeldu> Thanks for your reply, but I've wanted the proxy because I want my users to get rid of their spam without involving them into the technical process. Therefore, the plugin is no option and I'm going to use spamassassin instead... Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:45:27 -0400 From: "Coe, Bob" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 sessions arecounted but no mails To: Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5006FD33F6 at SPIKE.city> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:32 PM > To: Ralf R?mling > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Q: pop3proxy: configuration: pop3 > sessions arecounted but no mails > > >> Why are you using the POP3 proxy with Outlook? The Outlook plug-is > >> *much* simpler to install and use. > > > > umm, thought I mentioned that earlier... I'm trying to run it in > > conjunciton with my exchange-server2k whose recipients connect via > > POP3- connectors to the mailprovider. That's not a reason not to use the Outlook plugin on any client computer that has Outlook. Outlook will let you set up an "account" that picks up its mail from a POP3 server, and that mail gets filtered just as it would if it came in via the usual Exchange protocol. I do that all the time on my home network. I wouldn't try to talk you out of using the proxy if that's what you prefer. But I sure wouldn't use the proxy in a situation where I could use the plugin. Bob From jbockman at utk.edu Fri Aug 4 23:33:45 2006 From: jbockman at utk.edu (Bockman, Janet Lea) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:33:45 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Have lost "Junk Suspects" folder! Message-ID: <6A5CE13D731DE249BC61CB8C5C474B0A09322DBF@UTKFSVS1.utk.tennessee.edu> Hi -- I am on an Outlook 2003 Exchange server with Spambayes 1.0.4 running. A couple of days ago, I lost my "Junk Suspect" folder. I know that Spambayes still thinks it's there because Outlook will tell me that I have x number of unread messages when my inbox shows that I've read all of my e-mail. When I click on the "Unread Message" folder, these messages are in my now "invisible Junk Suspect" folder. I've unistalled SpamBayes and reinstalled it, but there is no "Junk Suspect" folder. I also selected the "reset configuration" button in the Spambayes management window, but I still can't see the "Junk Suspect" folder. Can you help me? Thanks in advance. Janet Bockman P.S. I'm working on a PC running Windows 2000. University of Tennessee S.W.O.R.P.S. 600 Henley Street Suite B090 Knoxville, TN 37996-4104 (865) 974-8639 bockmanj at sworps.utk.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060804/234dfb33/attachment.htm From peterb at zeta.org.au Sat Aug 5 02:57:38 2006 From: peterb at zeta.org.au (Peter Barker) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:57:38 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: References: <1f7befae0608022222q1d7f75c5j710b866e8bb00e36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200608051057.38547.peterb@zeta.org.au> I have a lot of messages with gif spam, and am happy to try out any utilities etc you have. I am finding many are classified correctly, but many are not, so I retrain on them. I use mbox format, so all my spam are in one file, but can separate out various messages if required. Peter Barker On Friday 04 August 2006 18:23, Tony Meyer wrote: > [Tim Stone] > > > I've got a bit of experience with the PIL, if I get a few spare > > minutes, > > maybe I'll mess with something. Can someone send me a typical spam > > image? > > Does the recent increase in messages about this indicate that other > people are interested in trying things out? As mentioned previously, > I've been working on these for a while now (when I have the time ;)) > and I can put up patches, utilities & result summaries if people are > interested. I've generated tokens indicating the presence & type of > images, sizes (width, height, total), and a variety of things using PIL. > > Nothing so far has helped more than hurt, and the closest made the > size of the database balloon. I've been working with my own mail > mostly, since many of the corpora around are old enough that these > messages are pretty rare (I really ought to re-export my mail, I > guess). I also put together a collection of tokenizations as one of > my submissions for TREC2006 (it did ok, but not great, on the public > corpora - still waiting on the private results). > > =Tony.Meyer From ehume at pshrink.com Sat Aug 5 21:56:02 2006 From: ehume at pshrink.com (Edward Hume) Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:56:02 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] UI issue Message-ID: <014e01c6b8c9$2df07b30$0400a8c0@NUMBERONE> I have been using SpamBayes for about two years. I have one problem that I have never been able to overcome: my habits. I get lots of Junk e-mail - something like 400-600 pieces per day. That means I get a lot of items in my Junk Suspects folder, so I spend time in it several times a day. Every once in a while I will look in my Junk folder. When I am done I will sometimes automatically click on the leftmost icon in the SpamBayes toolbar. Only after I have clicked on it do I realize that I have clicked on "Recover from Spam" rather than "Delete as Spam". I would like to suggest that rather than having the Delete As Spam button disappear from the toolbar as it does now, it should remain, in an obviously disabled state. We do this in Firefox with reduced-opacity icons. Outlook seems to do this with grayed-out images. Thank you for a great tool. Ed From dhaval at patel.sh Sun Aug 6 05:25:12 2006 From: dhaval at patel.sh (Dhaval Patel) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 03:25:12 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] inspecting subject Message-ID: I know that spambayes looks at the body of the email and decides if its spam or not, but can/does it also look at the subject. I am getting spams with a certain subject, an attachment (p.jpg) and no content in the body. It always comes into my inbox. I think it might be because spambayes does not look at the subject, but I could be wrong. Thanks, Dhaval From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Aug 6 06:56:27 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 16:56:27 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] inspecting subject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5939FCC7-9781-4798-A699-D724A11CB694@ihug.co.nz> > I know that spambayes looks at the body of the email and decides if > its spam or not, but > can/does it also look at the subject. I am getting spams with a > certain subject, an > attachment (p.jpg) and no content in the body. It always comes into > my inbox. I think it > might be because spambayes does not look at the subject, but I > could be wrong. Yes, SpamBayes generates tokens from certain headers, including the subject. If you look at the clues for the message, you should see one starting with "Subject:". =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From skip at pobox.com Sun Aug 6 19:25:47 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 12:25:47 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Several new tokenizing gimmicks checked in Message-ID: <17622.9755.800465.16215@montanaro.dyndns.org> With the current crop of pump & dump spams I decided to break down and actually see if ocrad (http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html) would help. It does a miserable job from a readability standpoint at extracting text from an image, but SpamBayes seems to love what it does generate. This morning I thought, "what the hell", and checked in all the current new tricks I've been working on/with: * IP address lookup and more extensive tokenization. This is from Matt Cowles. I added persistence beyond the current run. Unfortunately, the dbm persistence is untested (though should probably work okay) while the zodb persistence still has problems (writes the file the first time, but doesn't update it on successive runs). Maybe someone can look at those issues. This seems to work very well for those spams where the only useful clue is a URL, but with a domain name that changes each time. They seem to pretty much all point to the same IP address as far as I can tell. Enabled using the x-lookup_ip and lookup_ip_cache options. Requires installation of PyDNS. * Note image size. This was my first stab at trying to get some information out of an image. Seems to work pretty well. Enabled using the x-image_size option. * Note short runs of too-short words. Text spammers (as opposed to image spammers) seem to like to use this technique: X j A m N j A d X h M k E z R d I p D u I m A c C o I d A t L j I v S j to hide their tokens from spam filters. Enabled using the x-short_runs option. Based on my current database I'm skeptical this will add much over what else we already have. * Try OCR on images. The latest technique we've all encountered seems to be the pump and dump stock scams where the entire come-on is embedded in one or more GIF images. I wrote a small ImageStripper module which handles these. It grabs the image parts, converts them to netpbm format, concatenates them left-to-right, then submits the result to ocrad. This is just a proof-of-concept. It requires ocrad and netpbm to be available. As such I suspect it will only run currently on Unix-like systems. Enabled using the x-crack_images and max_image_size options. I added these extensions using multiple checkins, so if we decide to back one or more of them out it shouldn't be a major PITA. Skip From stonelaughter at yahoo.co.uk Sun Aug 6 19:45:29 2006 From: stonelaughter at yahoo.co.uk (Tom Kelsall) Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:45:29 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Client Message-ID: <44D62AB9.10304@yahoo.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060806/e9892732/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Sun Aug 6 21:08:54 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 14:08:54 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Client In-Reply-To: <44D62AB9.10304@yahoo.co.uk> References: <44D62AB9.10304@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <17622.15942.238592.969127@montanaro.dyndns.org> (Disable HTML mail for this mailing list, please.) Tom> Dudes, any chance of a proper client for Thunderbird? Sure, if someone writes one. (That someone could be you. It's not going to be me. I've never used Thunderbird before.) What OS? Skip From ejohnson at imagewireless.ca Sun Aug 6 21:15:18 2006 From: ejohnson at imagewireless.ca (Eric Johnson) Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:15:18 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Several new tokenizing gimmicks checked in In-Reply-To: <17622.9755.800465.16215@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Please forgive now the obvious dumb question... How do we get these new things to try them out? Thanks, Eric -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+ejohnson=imagewireless.ca at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+ejohnson=imagewireless.ca at python.org]On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: August 6, 2006 11:26 AM To: spambayes at python.org; spambayes-dev at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Several new tokenizing gimmicks checked in With the current crop of pump & dump spams I decided to break down and actually see if ocrad (http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html) would help. It does a miserable job from a readability standpoint at extracting text from an image, but SpamBayes seems to love what it does generate. This morning I thought, "what the hell", and checked in all the current new tricks I've been working on/with: * IP address lookup and more extensive tokenization. This is from Matt Cowles. I added persistence beyond the current run. Unfortunately, the dbm persistence is untested (though should probably work okay) while the zodb persistence still has problems (writes the file the first time, but doesn't update it on successive runs). Maybe someone can look at those issues. This seems to work very well for those spams where the only useful clue is a URL, but with a domain name that changes each time. They seem to pretty much all point to the same IP address as far as I can tell. Enabled using the x-lookup_ip and lookup_ip_cache options. Requires installation of PyDNS. * Note image size. This was my first stab at trying to get some information out of an image. Seems to work pretty well. Enabled using the x-image_size option. * Note short runs of too-short words. Text spammers (as opposed to image spammers) seem to like to use this technique: X j A m N j A d X h M k E z R d I p D u I m A c C o I d A t L j I v S j to hide their tokens from spam filters. Enabled using the x-short_runs option. Based on my current database I'm skeptical this will add much over what else we already have. * Try OCR on images. The latest technique we've all encountered seems to be the pump and dump stock scams where the entire come-on is embedded in one or more GIF images. I wrote a small ImageStripper module which handles these. It grabs the image parts, converts them to netpbm format, concatenates them left-to-right, then submits the result to ocrad. This is just a proof-of-concept. It requires ocrad and netpbm to be available. As such I suspect it will only run currently on Unix-like systems. Enabled using the x-crack_images and max_image_size options. I added these extensions using multiple checkins, so if we decide to back one or more of them out it shouldn't be a major PITA. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 05/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 05/08/2006 From skip at pobox.com Sun Aug 6 21:44:26 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 14:44:26 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Several new tokenizing gimmicks checked in In-Reply-To: References: <17622.9755.800465.16215@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <17622.18074.109725.200853@montanaro.dyndns.org> Eric> Please forgive now the obvious dumb question... How do we get Eric> these new things to try them out? Until someone (Tony?) does a release that includes them, you can check the code out of CVS: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=61702 then install it manually. Before you rush in and blindly start using it though, you might want to read README-DEVEL.txt, in the top level directory of the repository or here online: http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/README-DEVEL.txt Skip From ejohnson at imagewireless.ca Sun Aug 6 22:06:19 2006 From: ejohnson at imagewireless.ca (Eric Johnson) Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:06:19 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Several new tokenizing gimmicks checked in In-Reply-To: <17622.18074.109725.200853@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I'll read it through and see how adventuresome I feel... Thanks, Eric -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: August 6, 2006 1:44 PM To: Eric Johnson Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Several new tokenizing gimmicks checked in Eric> Please forgive now the obvious dumb question... How do we get Eric> these new things to try them out? Until someone (Tony?) does a release that includes them, you can check the code out of CVS: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=61702 then install it manually. Before you rush in and blindly start using it though, you might want to read README-DEVEL.txt, in the top level directory of the repository or here online: http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/READ ME-DEVEL.txt Skip -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 05/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 05/08/2006 From tim at aterraform.com Sun Aug 6 22:19:48 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:19:48 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Client In-Reply-To: <17622.15942.238592.969127@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <44D62AB9.10304@yahoo.co.uk> <17622.15942.238592.969127@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <44D64EE4.4090709@aterraform.com> Thunderbird is Mozilla's pop3 client. It has a builtin spam filtering feature that's based on Spambayes. The Mozilla dudes used our codebase, and reimplemented it in the base language for the browser, which is C, I presume. I use the builtin feature with great results. skip at pobox.com wrote: >(Disable HTML mail for this mailing list, please.) > > Tom> Dudes, any chance of a proper client for Thunderbird? > >Sure, if someone writes one. (That someone could be you. It's not going to >be me. I've never used Thunderbird before.) What OS? > >Skip >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > From skip at pobox.com Mon Aug 7 00:50:44 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:50:44 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Some test results Message-ID: <17622.29252.971244.847129@montanaro.dyndns.org> I put together some test databases today using spam received in the past week or so (about 1800 messages) and a reasonable cross-section of my ham (all saved python-related mail plus my regular non-specific mailbox, about 2300 messages) and did some 5x5 cross-validation tests (that's the correct term, right?). For the control test I set all these options False: x-lookup_ip x-short_runs x-image_size x-crack_images but otherwise used my standard configuration. I then made four runs, setting one option True for each run, then compared each test with the control run. The results are summarized briefly below. control v. x-lookup_ip ---------------------- false positive percentages 0.000 0.000 tied 0.217 0.217 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.219 0.219 tied 0.000 0.000 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times ... false negative percentages 4.199 4.199 tied 1.404 1.404 tied 4.412 4.412 tied 4.533 4.533 tied 4.222 4.222 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times control v. x-short_runs ----------------------- false positive percentages 0.000 0.000 tied 0.217 0.217 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.219 0.219 tied 0.000 0.000 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times ... false negative percentages 4.199 4.199 tied 1.404 1.404 tied 4.412 4.412 tied 4.533 4.533 tied 4.222 4.222 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times control v. x-image_size ----------------------- false positive percentages 0.000 0.000 tied 0.217 0.434 lost +100.00% 0.000 0.000 tied 0.219 0.219 tied 0.000 0.000 tied won 0 times tied 4 times lost 1 times ... false negative percentages 4.199 4.199 tied 1.404 1.404 tied 4.412 4.118 won -6.66% 4.533 4.533 tied 4.222 3.958 won -6.25% won 2 times tied 3 times lost 0 times control v. x-crack_images ------------------------- false positive percentages 0.000 0.000 tied 0.217 0.217 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.219 0.219 tied 0.000 0.000 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times ... false negative percentages 4.199 4.199 tied 1.404 1.404 tied 4.412 4.118 won -6.66% 4.533 3.966 won -12.51% 4.222 3.430 won -18.76% won 3 times tied 2 times lost 0 times I didn't do anything to verify the accuracy of my spam and ham data. I'm doing that now. Also, the fact that the first two tests were identical to the control seems a bit suspicious, so I'm going to try them again after picking over my training database. Still, the image_size and crack_images runs look promising, perhaps because my recent spam is so full of these pump and dump spams. Skip From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Mon Aug 7 09:05:01 2006 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:05:01 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] UI issue In-Reply-To: <014e01c6b8c9$2df07b30$0400a8c0@NUMBERONE> Message-ID: <0fa201c6b9ef$cdc5c350$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> > Every once in a while I will look in my Junk folder. When I > am done I will > sometimes automatically click on the leftmost icon in the > SpamBayes toolbar. > Only after I have clicked on it do I realize that I have > clicked on "Recover > from Spam" rather than "Delete as Spam". > > I would like to suggest that rather than having the Delete As > Spam button > disappear from the toolbar as it does now, it should remain, > in an obviously > disabled state. We do this in Firefox with reduced-opacity > icons. Outlook > seems to do this with grayed-out images. It took me a little time to determine exactly what you meant here (I initially thought you were referring to the fact that Outlook sometimes hides what it considers 'unused' buttons) - but I believe you are saying that the 2 'spam/not spam' buttons should always be visible, but for all folders other than 'maybe', one or the other will be disabled? I'm not that keen on the idea - disabled UI elements are confusing enough as it is, and one that never becomes enabled are more so! I expect some users would assume that the button will enable for particular items, but it will not until you change folders. I'm willing to be convinced by a chorus of 'me too!'s, but in the meantime, I suggest you customize the toolbars and swap the order of the buttons in your 'maybe' folder - that should mean the 'delete as spam' button is in the same location as the inbox, and should help prevent this specific mistake. Cheers, Mark From stonelaughter at yahoo.co.uk Mon Aug 7 11:27:59 2006 From: stonelaughter at yahoo.co.uk (Tom Kelsall) Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:27:59 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Client Message-ID: <44D7079F.2090101@yahoo.co.uk> Thanks folks; I wasn't aware of that, and the ThunderBird SpamKiller doesn't seem to be "Training" too cleverly. I'll work on it some more and see if I can get it to "Learn" my SPAM characteristics. Thanks again ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail ? Tired of Vi at gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From emywright at atlanticbb.net Mon Aug 7 16:51:59 2006 From: emywright at atlanticbb.net (Emy Wright) Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:51:59 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Unable to view messages to inbox Message-ID: <44D7538F.2040208@atlanticbb.net> I have Outlook Express, however, it has not been very secure, and Mozilla Thunderbird was set up for my new mail. Now I am having trouble receiving my mail. I have 5 new messages and I am unable to recover them. I have had a terrible experience with spyware when Norton didn't help me activate my latest (2006) security, and the security ran out. The numbers on the sleeve and box didn't match. Spent hours with Microsoft and Dell, sent my computer to be fixed; it came back still with trouble in Windows. Had another person come to house and he set up my Thunderbird mail, and it worked for a couple days. Now that is not working. Can anything be done other than have Windows completely uninstalled, then reinstalled? I don't have backups for my programs, but nothing serious on computer but mail I have saved. And I didn't know you existed. This just came up when I wrote a note regarding this. Thanks, Emy From rleedavis at ESPmagic.com Mon Aug 7 19:28:23 2006 From: rleedavis at ESPmagic.com (R. Lee Davis / ESPmagic Productions) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:28:23 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Help with a specific issue Message-ID: Hello! First, I am really computer ignorant, and I don't like to play with things I don't understand, so I thought I'd ask the experts: I keep receiving spam to an address that doesn't exist (bbixlxufq at ESPmagic.com), and I wondered how I can set Spambayes to send all emails that come to this address directly to the junk email folder. Is there a simple method to do this? I couldn't see the way when browsing the FAQ page... Thank you so much for your help! Lee -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/06 From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon Aug 7 20:30:51 2006 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:30:51 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] UI issue Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500736757B@SPIKE.city> I vote for leaving things as they are. I've radically changed the look and feel of my Spambayes toolbar, and would prefer not to have to do it over. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." And this ain't. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Edward Hume > Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 3:56 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] UI issue > > I have been using SpamBayes for about two years. I have one > problem that I have never been able to overcome: my habits. > > I get lots of Junk e-mail - something like 400-600 pieces per > day. That means I get a lot of items in my Junk Suspects > folder, so I spend time in it several times a day. > > Every once in a while I will look in my Junk folder. When I > am done I will sometimes automatically click on the leftmost > icon in the SpamBayes toolbar. > Only after I have clicked on it do I realize that I have > clicked on "Recover from Spam" rather than "Delete as Spam". > > I would like to suggest that rather than having the Delete As > Spam button disappear from the toolbar as it does now, it > should remain, in an obviously disabled state. We do this in > Firefox with reduced-opacity icons. Outlook seems to do this > with grayed-out images. > > Thank you for a great tool. > > Ed > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Aug 8 00:01:29 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:01:29 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Unable to view messages to inbox In-Reply-To: <44D7538F.2040208@atlanticbb.net> References: <44D7538F.2040208@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: <94E4549A-2DFC-4383-A6F6-094822749226@ihug.co.nz> > I have Outlook Express, however, it has not been very secure, and > Mozilla Thunderbird was set up for my new mail. Now I am having > trouble > receiving my mail. I have 5 new messages and I am unable to recover > them. I have had a terrible experience with spyware when Norton > didn't > help me activate my latest (2006) security, and the security ran out. > The numbers on the sleeve and box didn't match. Spent hours with > Microsoft and Dell, sent my computer to be fixed; it came back still > with trouble in Windows. Had another person come to house and he > set up > my Thunderbird mail, and it worked for a couple days. Now that is not > working. Can anything be done other than have Windows completely > uninstalled, then reinstalled? I don't have backups for my programs, > but nothing serious on computer but mail I have saved. And I didn't > know you existed. This just came up when I wrote a note regarding > this. In all of this, you haven't mentioned SpamBayes at all. You sent your message to a mailing list that offers help with the spam filter SpamBayes. Is that what you meant to do? We can't help at all with problems with Thunderbird (apart from using Thunderbird with SpamBayes). If you are using SpamBayes, could you please be a bit more specific about what is going wrong? In particular, please let us know what you expect to happen, what actually happens, and if any error messages appear, what they are. If you're not using SpamBayes, then it would be interesting to know why you thought this was the address to write to for help. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Aug 8 00:05:27 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:05:27 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] UI issue In-Reply-To: <0fa201c6b9ef$cdc5c350$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> References: <0fa201c6b9ef$cdc5c350$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: >> I would like to suggest that rather than having the Delete As >> Spam button disappear from the toolbar as it does now, it should >> remain, >> in an obviously disabled state. > > I'm not that keen on the idea - disabled UI elements are confusing > enough as > it is, and one that never becomes enabled are more so! [...] > I'm willing to be convinced by a chorus of > 'me too!'s [...] My vote is definitely for the status quo. I think it's definitely better interface design to only have the buttons that can be used displayed. It also means that apart from the unsure folder, the toolbar only has a single button (i.e. "Spam" in the spam folder, and "Not Spam" anywhere else) which takes up less space (the Outlook toolbars are already pretty crowded). FWIW, IIRC we have never had a request for this before, so that's an indicator (perhaps not a great one) that the status quo is generally liked. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Aug 8 00:07:51 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:07:51 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Have lost "Junk Suspects" folder! In-Reply-To: <6A5CE13D731DE249BC61CB8C5C474B0A09322DBF@UTKFSVS1.utk.tennessee.edu> References: <6A5CE13D731DE249BC61CB8C5C474B0A09322DBF@UTKFSVS1.utk.tennessee.edu> Message-ID: > I am on an Outlook 2003 Exchange server with Spambayes 1.0.4 > running. A couple of days ago, I lost my "Junk Suspect" folder. Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Aug 8 00:09:50 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:09:50 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] program failed In-Reply-To: <000001c6b7c4$f13da5a0$0d0d150a@MIKER> References: <000001c6b7c4$f13da5a0$0d0d150a@MIKER> Message-ID: <8F5F6AF1-9FC8-417A-9B36-0DAE39167B75@ihug.co.nz> > I use the spam program for Outlook 2002. It stopped working yesterday. Check to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. > I looked for an uninstall feature in the add/remove programs and it > was not there. It should be, unless it has already been uninstalled (or something rare has occurred like registry problems). Check again! =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Aug 8 00:10:42 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:10:42 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam bayes Outlook error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I have just installed Spam Bayes on Windows XP with Outlook. > > The installation went well, but when I start Outlook, there is the > following message: > > > > There was an error initializing the Spam plugin. > > Spam filtering has been disabled > > Please re configure and re enable this plugin > > Error details: > > Failed to load bayes database Please send us a copy of your most recent log file (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find the logs). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From dave at boost-consulting.com Tue Aug 8 00:12:19 2006 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:12:19 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] configuration/browser problems Message-ID: Hi, I'm having some trouble with configuration. On my (old FreeBSD) mail server, as of today, I can only use a text connection, which wouldn't be a problem (I could use lynx) except that when I do python sb_imapfilter.py -b It looks like lynx is trying to start, but all I see is "HTTP request sent; waiting for response." Remote connections don't work either, even if I edit Options.py to change the defaults. How can I configure SpamBayes now? IIRC there used to be a text configuration file somewhere that I could edit... Thanks in advance, -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Aug 8 00:12:54 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:12:54 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Instalation problemsl... In-Reply-To: <000601c6b7a1$63bdf950$0201a8c0@HS2> References: <000601c6b7a1$63bdf950$0201a8c0@HS2> Message-ID: <50B5DD73-32BD-43A8-846F-388CC9565B3D@ihug.co.nz> > I have been trying to install SpamBayes 1.0.4 onto my machine, > which runs Windows XP / Office 2003. I have downloaded and run > versions from two different mirrors and direct from the link on the > site, but none of them seems to work. The install wizard claims to > have done its thing, but I can't get it to open with Outlook. You appear to be using Outlook Express rather than Outlook. Is that the case? If so, the installation process is slightly more involved than with Outlook. There are step-by-step instructions for setting up SpamBayes with Outlook Express here: If you are using Outlook, the first time you opened it after installing SpamBayes it should have displayed a setup wizard. Did that happen? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Aug 8 00:13:55 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:13:55 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Can not run SPAMbayes on outlook express In-Reply-To: <002d01c6b305$7baa6210$6400000a@robert> References: <002d01c6b305$7baa6210$6400000a@robert> Message-ID: <8BA1CED0-853F-484D-93B1-F0EE57ABDE9B@ihug.co.nz> > When running "Send/RCV" from outlook express got this error message > > Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible > causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a > long period of inactivity. Account: 'Hila - Shiltons', Server: > 'localhost', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Error > Number: 0x800CCC0F Please send us a copy of your most recent log file. The troubleshooting guide explains where you can find the logs. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Aug 8 00:16:20 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:16:20 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Installation instruction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <937056D2-890C-4330-8062-771FFBF98A4A@ihug.co.nz> > The link > > spambayes/spam > bayes/README.txt?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain> > > times out. Please could I have a copy of the relevant docs. Sorry - sourceforge changed all of the cvs servers, so all links like this (plus all checkouts of the source) have broken. I'll try and fix that link shortly. The readme is included in the source distribution (maybe also the binary - I don't recall), or you can read the latest version online at: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Aug 8 00:49:47 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:49:47 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] configuration/browser problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A7F68D8-4B42-446E-ACEC-7F163FB4D8D5@ihug.co.nz> > I'm having some trouble with configuration. On my (old FreeBSD) mail > server, as of today, I can only use a text connection, which wouldn't > be a problem (I could use lynx) except that when I do > > python sb_imapfilter.py -b > > It looks like lynx is trying to start, but all I see is "HTTP request > sent; waiting for response." Remote connections don't work either, > even if I edit Options.py to change the defaults. If you don't use the -b switch and just tell Lynx to go to http:// localhost:8880, does that work? > How can I configure SpamBayes now? IIRC there used to be a text > configuration file somewhere that I could edit... On *nix this is probably called ~/.spambayesrc (the other possibility is bayescustomize.ini). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From dave at boost-consulting.com Tue Aug 8 03:36:15 2006 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:36:15 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] configuration/browser problems References: <3A7F68D8-4B42-446E-ACEC-7F163FB4D8D5@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: Tony Meyer writes: >> I'm having some trouble with configuration. On my (old FreeBSD) mail >> server, as of today, I can only use a text connection, which wouldn't >> be a problem (I could use lynx) except that when I do >> >> python sb_imapfilter.py -b >> >> It looks like lynx is trying to start, but all I see is "HTTP request >> sent; waiting for response." Remote connections don't work either, >> even if I edit Options.py to change the defaults. > > If you don't use the -b switch and just tell Lynx to go to http:// > localhost:8880, does that work? Yep, it works, thanks. What do you suppose is confounding the -b option? >> How can I configure SpamBayes now? IIRC there used to be a text >> configuration file somewhere that I could edit... > > On *nix this is probably called ~/.spambayesrc Yep, there it is. I guess I don't understand how to use ls, since ls -a "*spam*" doesn't find it :( -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From skip at pobox.com Tue Aug 8 03:57:15 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:57:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] configuration/browser problems In-Reply-To: References: <3A7F68D8-4B42-446E-ACEC-7F163FB4D8D5@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <17623.61307.875122.388550@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> On *nix this is probably called ~/.spambayesrc Dave> Yep, there it is. I guess I don't understand how to use ls, since Dave> ls -a "*spam*" Dave> doesn't find it :( "*" at the beginning of a wildcard expression doesn't match files that begin with ".". Since there are no .files in the wildcard expansion, the -a flag is moot: % ls -a *spam* ls: *spam*: No such file or directory % ls -da .*spam* .spamassassin I obviously have some old cruft to clean out of my home directory. ;-) Skip From skip at pobox.com Tue Aug 8 06:10:15 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:10:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Updated test results Message-ID: <17624.3751.511224.861381@montanaro.dyndns.org> I picked through my new training database, found one or two outright mistakes, deleted a few other administrative mails, fixed a few bugs in my recent checkins and rebalanced my database. I then made a baseline run with the following settings: [globals] verbose: True [Headers] include_evidence: True [Tokenizer] record_header_absence: True summarize_email_prefixes: True summarize_email_suffixes: True mine_received_headers:True x-pick_apart_urls:True x-fancy_url_recognition:False x-lookup_ip:False lookup_ip_cache:~/src/spambayes/ip.pickle x-short_runs:False x-image_size:False x-crack_images:False x-max_image_size:100000 [Categorization] ham_cutoff: 0.15 spam_cutoff: 0.50 [Storage] persistent_storage_file: ~/src/spambayes/test.pickle persistent_use_database: pickle followed by a series of test runs, each one with one of the following options set to True: x-lookup_ip x-short_runs x-image_size x-crack_images All tests were run against the same combination of ham and spam: -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams -> tested 459 hams & 359 spams against 1836 hams & 1436 spams baseline vs. x-lookup_ip: false positive percentages 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.218 0.218 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times false negative percentages 2.228 1.671 won -25.00% 3.343 3.064 won -8.35% 5.292 4.735 won -10.53% 4.735 4.457 won -5.87% 2.786 2.507 won -10.01% won 5 times tied 0 times lost 0 times baseline vs. x-short_runs: false positive percentages 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.218 0.218 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times false negative percentages 2.228 2.228 tied 3.343 3.343 tied 5.292 5.292 tied 4.735 4.735 tied 2.786 2.786 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times baseline vs. x-image_size: false positive percentages 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.218 0.218 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times false negative percentages 2.228 1.950 won -12.48% 3.343 3.343 tied 5.292 5.014 won -5.25% 4.735 4.457 won -5.87% 2.786 2.786 tied won 3 times tied 2 times lost 0 times baseline vs. x-crack_image: false positive percentages 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.218 0.218 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times false negative percentages 2.228 1.671 won -25.00% 3.343 3.064 won -8.35% 5.292 4.457 won -15.78% 4.735 4.457 won -5.87% 2.786 2.786 tied won 4 times tied 1 times lost 0 times Based on the mixture of ham and spam I have it would appear only the x-short_runs option doesn't help discriminate ham from spam. Skip From filtering at seaperl.com Tue Aug 8 09:35:36 2006 From: filtering at seaperl.com (Craig Steffler) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:35:36 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Consulting Opportunity Message-ID: <44D83EC8.6030504@seaperl.com> Hello Fellow Developer: I've been contracted to manage a spam/phish filtering project for a financial institution and would really like to get some experienced help for it. I've tried to setup SpamBayes on a Fedora system but ran into errors. I'm more of a Programmer than a System Admin and usually hose up the system. Hopefully, your familiar with CentOS which is sort of a RedHat Enterprise Linux clone. You can go to www.centos.org for more details but it works very much like Fedora. What I need initially is for someone to either install bogofilter or help guide me thru it so I can start getting spam fed into the system to start testing. If you could email your resume, availability, and rate to filtering at seaperl.com I'll get back to you with more details. BEST OF ALL, this is a telecommuting opportunity which I can tell you first hand doesn't come up that often during lean business times like this. That said I need someone within the U.S. as that's what the client has requested. Also if you're up on Phish filtering that would be an added bonus. Assuming I don't get thousands of emails I will respond to everyone who emails me. From jagallaghersr at verizon.net Tue Aug 8 20:04:55 2006 From: jagallaghersr at verizon.net (John Gallagher) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:04:55 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Update Spambays Message-ID: <000601c6bb15$2a0c14e0$4101a8c0@John> I have been using version .4 with Outlook Express for the past few years. I guess it's time to update to the latest version. Is there anything I need to know about downloading the latest? Will the update pickup my current configuration settings? Thanks John Gallagher -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060808/1f67f6d8/attachment.html From matt at mondoinfo.com Tue Aug 8 21:37:02 2006 From: matt at mondoinfo.com (Matthew Dixon Cowles) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:37:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Updated test results In-Reply-To: <17624.3751.511224.861381@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <17624.3751.511224.861381@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1155050781.71.19994@mint-julep.mondoinfo.com> > baseline vs. x-lookup_ip: [. . .] > false negative percentages > 2.228 1.671 won -25.00% > 3.343 3.064 won -8.35% > 5.292 4.735 won -10.53% > 4.735 4.457 won -5.87% > 2.786 2.507 won -10.01% > > won 5 times > tied 0 times > lost 0 times I'm glad to see that. That's the sort of improvement that I see with that code, but I think it's the first time that anyone else has reproduced it. Still, as people have pointed out before, there's at least one potential problem in the code. That's that data from DNS isn't necessarily stable. If someone needed to un-train their database on a message a day or two later, the tokens generated might easily not be the same as they were when the message was first trained on. That could send a token's count below zero. That doesn't affect me in practice, but it would surely affect someone if the code were used widely. Fixing it in general would require some rather elaborate persistence mechanism, I think. Regards, Matt From skip at pobox.com Tue Aug 8 22:12:09 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:12:09 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Updated test results In-Reply-To: <1155050781.71.19994@mint-julep.mondoinfo.com> References: <17624.3751.511224.861381@montanaro.dyndns.org> <1155050781.71.19994@mint-julep.mondoinfo.com> Message-ID: <17624.61465.232582.676437@montanaro.dyndns.org> Matt> Still, as people have pointed out before, there's at least one Matt> potential problem in the code. That's that data from DNS isn't Matt> necessarily stable.... Matt> That doesn't affect me in practice, but it would surely affect Matt> someone if the code were used widely. Fixing it in general would Matt> require some rather elaborate persistence mechanism, I think. Or simply retraining from scratch after deleting your cache. Speaking of which, I gave up on persistence via the dbm or zodb routes. Instead I just save/restore the cache using pickle. I'll probably check that into CVS this evening. Skip From bbear at sffb.org Tue Aug 8 22:52:18 2006 From: bbear at sffb.org (Ben Bear) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 13:52:18 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes toolbar and Outlook 2003 Message-ID: Using Outlook 2003 sp2 Exchange 2000 Spambayes 1.0.4 and 1.1a2 XP Pro sp2 Spambayes will grade and move spam suspects appropriately but toolbar buttons to "Delete as Spam" and "Recover from Spam" have no effect. Attempted, but feckless, self-help... * rename all Office10 folders to Office10x * various permutations of getting rid of the SpamBayes/all toolbars and letting Outlook rebuild them. * using cached mode for Excange * checking to see if this was a matter of the Outlook display not updating (it wasn't) * unloading and reloading Spambayes, loading v1.1a2 Loved Spambayes, would love to use the buttons, please help Ben Bear Information Systems Manager San Francisco Food Bank 900 Pennsylvania Avenue San Francisco, CA 94107 voice (415) 282-1907 x268 (415) 282-1900 fax (415) 282-1909 bbear at sffb.org www.sffoodbank.org From randrews at telesoft-technologies.com Wed Aug 9 09:10:13 2006 From: randrews at telesoft-technologies.com (Ryan Andrews) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:10:13 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.1a2 on Linux, IMAP connection problem Message-ID: <200608090810.13476.randrews@telesoft-technologies.com> Hi I use Mandriva PowerPack 2006 as my OS and Kmail as my email client. I receive email via IMAP (Note the email server is a Linux base running Exim). I have installed SpamBayes 1.1a2 as stated in your README, by running setup.py build and setup.py install. After this I run sb_imapfilter.py -b, to setup SpamBayes. I get the webpage displayed and I enter the server information only as required. I leave out the port numbers so they default to 143. I then performed a Save & Shutdown. When I re-run sb_imapfilter.py -b in a terminal I get the following error: Cannot connect to server mail.xxx.com on port 143. I have checked my server settings and they are right. The server does not use SSL so port 143 is correct. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ryan From dave at boost-consulting.com Wed Aug 9 16:59:28 2006 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:59:28 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Posting problems Message-ID: I've posted several messages to this list through GMane, and wondered why nobody answered them. Well as it turned out, I wasn't subscribed, and you don't seem to be accepting posts from nonsubscribers (totally understandable). But I got no clue that subscription was needed, and GMane shows my posts anyway: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spambayes.devel/3613/focus=3613 They just don't show up in your email archive. Furthermore, for a little extra weirdness, I've posted successfully here before: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2003-December/author.html I dunno what's going on here. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From dave at boost-consulting.com Wed Aug 9 17:39:47 2006 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:39:47 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Posting problems References: Message-ID: David Abrahams writes: > I've posted several messages to this list through GMane, and wondered > why nobody answered them. Well as it turned out, I wasn't subscribed, > and you don't seem to be accepting posts from nonsubscribers (totally > understandable). But I got no clue that subscription was needed, and > GMane shows my posts anyway: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spambayes.devel/3613/focus=3613 > > They just don't show up in your email archive. Furthermore, for a > little extra weirdness, I've posted successfully here before: > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2003-December/author.html > > I dunno what's going on here. Um, I guess I was confusing the -dev list (on which nobody is answering me) with this one. Sorry for the noise. But if someone could get back to me on the -dev list I'd really appreciate it! Even just an ACK would be useful at this point! -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From petergosney at flexydial.com.au Thu Aug 10 01:23:42 2006 From: petergosney at flexydial.com.au (Peter Gosney) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:23:42 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Norton AV Message-ID: <44DA6E7E.7080909@flexydial.com.au> Hi, Norton AV email scanning is blocking my inbound emails coming from the Spambayes proxy. I can only receive emails by turning inbound virus scanning off. With it on, constant attempts to download inbound mail results in multiple copies of each email building up in the Spambayes training folder, but nothing in my inbox. Can you shed any light? From skip at pobox.com Thu Aug 10 07:00:04 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:00:04 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Latest image spam/OCR update Message-ID: <17626.48468.837805.425784@montanaro.dyndns.org> I just checked in a couple significant changes to the OCR stuff. First, I added support for conversion of input images using PIL. That means netpbm is no longer required. PIL is faster and more robust than netpbm, and is platform-independent. Perhaps someone in Windows-land can take the time to see if it's possible to build ocrad on Windows. We could then (in theory, at least) distribute an ocrad installer alongside the SpamBayes Windows installer and perform crude, but apparently effective, OCR analysis of image-based spam. The second change to the OCR code was the addition of a simple pickled cache file (controlled by the "crack_image_cache" option). The conversion to netpbm format is still required, however the ocrad step is skipped if the md5 hexdigest of the generated image is present in the cache. In thi case any cached text and tokens are returned. I have no Windows capability, so someone else will have to take the steps necessary to make this all play on Windows. There are a few other things that need testing, but I'm out of time. First, I arbitrarily set an upper limit of 100kbytes on input images (per image before converting to netpbm). I think that allows all images that would hold spam content, but I'm not sure I have many images in my training database besides spam. I don't know if that's a useful cutoff or if there should even be a cutoff. Second, I observed that ocrad routinely seemed to get the letter case wrong (e.g. coming up with "EGLy" instead of "EGLY"), so I blindly downshift its output. I have nothing other than that simple observation to suggest that should be done. Third, if other people have traing databases, running N-fold cross validation tests of these new gimmicks would be beneficial. It would be nice if others could verify my results before a new release is made. Finally, if you're a Python programmer (or aspire to be one), picking through the new code would be a good check. Too bad the summer's nearly over. We could use a Summer of Code intern... Skip From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Aug 10 08:15:34 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:15:34 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Update Spambays In-Reply-To: <000601c6bb15$2a0c14e0$4101a8c0@John> References: <000601c6bb15$2a0c14e0$4101a8c0@John> Message-ID: <7EA30314-F15A-4A25-AE83-36466ADAE0F3@ihug.co.nz> > I have been using version .4 with Outlook Express for the past few > years. > I guess it's time to update to the latest version. I started a reply to this assuming that you meant a version before 1.0 ('004' in the old Outlook binary speak, or 1.0a4). However, did you maybe mean 1.0.4? If so, that's still the latest stable version (if it ain't broke...) If not, then the rest of this may be applicable: > Is there anything I need to know about downloading the latest? > Will the update pickup my current configuration settings? 0.4 is so long ago that I honestly can't remember. For a while, releases have had a "incompatible changes" section at the top of the release notes indicating if there was anything that would need to be changed. You can view the old versions of this via CVS: (The ones that have a "tag" of a release are the version of particular interest). However, this only goes back to the 1.0a2 release, which means that any changes in 0.5, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8 (maybe there wasn't a 0.8? I don't recall), and 0.9 won't be mentioned. The best thing to do would be to simply try it and post a (detailed) request for help here if it doesn't work. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From jagallaghersr at verizon.net Thu Aug 10 08:57:47 2006 From: jagallaghersr at verizon.net (John Gallagher) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 23:57:47 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Update Spambays References: <000601c6bb15$2a0c14e0$4101a8c0@John> <7EA30314-F15A-4A25-AE83-36466ADAE0F3@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <000601c6bc4a$4aa64410$4101a8c0@John> Thanks for the info. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "John Gallagher" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Update Spambays >> I have been using version .4 with Outlook Express for the past few >> years. >> I guess it's time to update to the latest version. > > I started a reply to this assuming that you meant a version before > 1.0 ('004' in the old Outlook binary speak, or 1.0a4). However, did > you maybe mean 1.0.4? If so, that's still the latest stable version > (if it ain't broke...) If not, then the rest of this may be applicable: > >> Is there anything I need to know about downloading the latest? >> Will the update pickup my current configuration settings? > > 0.4 is so long ago that I honestly can't remember. For a while, > releases have had a "incompatible changes" section at the top of the > release notes indicating if there was anything that would need to be > changed. You can view the old versions of this via CVS: > > WHAT_IS_NEW.txt?view=log> > > (The ones that have a "tag" of a release are the version of > particular interest). > > However, this only goes back to the 1.0a2 release, which means that > any changes in 0.5, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8 (maybe there wasn't a 0.8? I don't > recall), and 0.9 won't be mentioned. > > The best thing to do would be to simply try it and post a (detailed) > request for help here if it doesn't work. > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu Aug 10 09:32:25 2006 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:32:25 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Latest image spam/OCR update In-Reply-To: <17626.48468.837805.425784@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <192c01c6bc4f$26046ba0$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> > Perhaps someone in Windows-land can > take the time to > see if it's possible to build ocrad on Windows. Using cygwin and gcc I was able to build an ocrad.exe on Windows (with one simple patch necessary; a complaint about std::sprintf - just removing the 'std::' prefix got it building) Sadly that is all I have time for today too though, but if anyone wants that .exe to fiddle with, let me know. Mark From chris at gehlhausen.com Thu Aug 10 14:36:29 2006 From: chris at gehlhausen.com (Chris Gehlhausen) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:36:29 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrading from 1.0b1 to 1.04 Message-ID: If I upgrade from 1.0b1 to 1.04 will I lose all my settings. Nothing anywhere (FAQ or program) talks about this. I have a daily e-mail from bibleleague at bibleleague.org that is always sent to the Junk Suspects folder and I have to ?Recover from Spam? every day. Chris J. Gehlhausen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But I got no clue that subscription was needed, and > GMane shows my posts anyway: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spambayes.devel/3613/focus=3613 > > They just don't show up in your email archive. If Gmane shows the message, then it was received from the mailing list. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi at gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From dave at boost-consulting.com Fri Aug 11 02:33:24 2006 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:33:24 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Posting problems In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:25:09 +0200") References: Message-ID: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > David Abrahams writes: > >> I've posted several messages to this list through GMane, and wondered >> why nobody answered them. Well as it turned out, I wasn't subscribed, >> and you don't seem to be accepting posts from nonsubscribers (totally >> understandable). But I got no clue that subscription was needed, and >> GMane shows my posts anyway: >> >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spambayes.devel/3613/focus=3613 >> >> They just don't show up in your email archive. > > If Gmane shows the message, then it was received from the mailing > list. Sorry, Lars, I was getting two lists confused with one another. I apologize for the noise. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From ewelina_mie at yahoo.com Fri Aug 11 03:11:10 2006 From: ewelina_mie at yahoo.com (Ewelina Mieszczak) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Enroll your card with Verify By Visa program Message-ID: <20060811011110.81844.qmail@web55902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1?/min. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060811/b37384b9/attachment.htm From matts at ksu.edu Fri Aug 11 22:34:46 2006 From: matts at ksu.edu (Matt Stegman) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:34:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spambayes] BadIMAPResponseError: "Cannot find saved message" Message-ID: Hello, I've just started using Spambayes 1.1a2, and I'm quite happy with it (I had been using the Outlook plugin until now). However, I'm seeing an intermittent problem with sb_imapfilter.py. It will routinely crash while talking to the IMAP server, and always with the same error message: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 1284, in ? run() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 1266, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 1067, in Filter self.unsure_folder, self.ham_folder) File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 970, in Filter msg.Save() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 723, in Save raise BadIMAPResponseError("recent", "Cannot find saved message") __main__.BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'recent' failed to give an OK response. Cannot find saved message Usually it'll run OK for a day or two, but sometimes for just a few hours before crashing. If I don't notice for a while and messages pile up in the inbox without being classified, Spambayes will sometimes crash before classifying a dozen or less messages, when I start it again. I've tried training several times, and have never seen this error; it's only appeared when classifying. Also, the server runs Courier IMAP, but I don't know the version. I'm using IMAP over SSL, on port 993. I found that I'm not the first person to see this error message: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes-dev/2004-November/003232.html I ran imapfilter with -i4 as suggested there, and saw the following just before the crash. The pattern repeats what looks like 100 times - I see a loop in the code at line 717, I guess this loop fails against my IMAP server sometimes. 06:50.02 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:50.02 > GFNI156 NOOP 06:50.03 < GFNI156 OK NOOP completed Now, this run was after a few messages had piled up since the last time Spambayes had crashed. Here's what looks like happened: messages 1-19 in the INBOX were previously classified. New messages were 20-31. Spambayes classified messages 20-24, the first four were ham and the last was spam. The messages were written out OK; 32-35 are copies of the ham with added headers, and the spam ended up in the spam folder. So if I'm reading the output right, Spambayes was looking for messages 31, 33, 34, and 35. That looks odd - if 32-35 were just written out, why is Spambayes querying message 31 and not 32? The full output is attached; hopefully it can help. -- Thanks for any help, Matt Stegman -------------- next part -------------- 06:29.28 > GFNI1 LOGIN username "password" 06:29.34 < GFNI1 OK LOGIN Ok. 06:29.34 > GFNI2 SELECT INBOX.spam-new 06:30.24 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 06:30.24 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 06:30.24 < * 1928 EXISTS 06:30.24 < * 0 RECENT 06:30.24 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1077921887] Ok 06:30.24 < * OK [MYRIGHTS "acdilrsw"] ACL 06:30.24 < GFNI2 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 06:30.24 > GFNI3 SELECT INBOX 06:30.73 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 06:30.73 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 06:30.73 < * 31 EXISTS 06:30.73 < * 0 RECENT 06:30.73 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1063604858] Ok 06:30.73 < * OK [MYRIGHTS "acdilrsw"] ACL 06:30.73 < GFNI3 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 06:30.73 > GFNI4 UID SEARCH UNDELETED 06:30.73 < * SEARCH 53503 53505 54498 54929 54954 54969 54985 55051 55075 55121 55138 55140 55147 55153 55156 55157 55161 55167 55168 55169 55170 55171 55172 55173 55174 55175 55176 55177 55178 55179 55180 06:30.73 < GFNI4 OK SEARCH done. 06:30.73 > GFNI5 UID FETCH 53503 RFC822.HEADER 06:30.75 < * 1 FETCH (UID 53503 RFC822.HEADER {1577} 06:30.75 read literal size 1577 06:30.78 < ) 06:30.78 < GFNI5 OK FETCH completed. 06:30.78 > GFNI6 UID FETCH 53505 RFC822.HEADER 06:30.80 < * 2 FETCH (UID 53505 RFC822.HEADER {1554} 06:30.80 read literal size 1554 06:30.83 < ) 06:30.83 < GFNI6 OK FETCH completed. 06:30.84 > GFNI7 UID FETCH 54498 RFC822.HEADER 06:30.85 < * 3 FETCH (UID 54498 RFC822.HEADER {1567} 06:30.85 read literal size 1567 06:30.89 < ) 06:30.89 < GFNI7 OK FETCH completed. 06:30.89 > GFNI8 UID FETCH 54929 RFC822.HEADER 06:30.90 < * 4 FETCH (UID 54929 RFC822.HEADER {1659} 06:30.90 read literal size 1659 06:30.94 < ) 06:30.94 < GFNI8 OK FETCH completed. 06:30.94 > GFNI9 UID FETCH 54954 RFC822.HEADER 06:30.96 < * 5 FETCH (UID 54954 RFC822.HEADER {5190} 06:30.96 read literal size 5190 06:30.99 < ) 06:30.99 < GFNI9 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.00 > GFNI10 UID FETCH 54969 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.01 < * 6 FETCH (UID 54969 RFC822.HEADER {1803} 06:31.01 read literal size 1803 06:31.05 < ) 06:31.05 < GFNI10 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.05 > GFNI11 UID FETCH 54985 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.06 < * 7 FETCH (UID 54985 RFC822.HEADER {3287} 06:31.06 read literal size 3287 06:31.10 < ) 06:31.10 < GFNI11 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.10 > GFNI12 UID FETCH 55051 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.11 < * 8 FETCH (UID 55051 RFC822.HEADER {1341} 06:31.11 read literal size 1341 06:31.15 < ) 06:31.15 < GFNI12 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.15 > GFNI13 UID FETCH 55075 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.16 < * 9 FETCH (UID 55075 RFC822.HEADER {1591} 06:31.16 read literal size 1591 06:31.20 < ) 06:31.20 < GFNI13 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.20 > GFNI14 UID FETCH 55121 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.21 < * 10 FETCH (UID 55121 RFC822.HEADER {2878} 06:31.21 read literal size 2878 06:31.21 < ) 06:31.21 < GFNI14 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.21 > GFNI15 UID FETCH 55138 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.25 < * 11 FETCH (UID 55138 RFC822.HEADER {1218} 06:31.25 read literal size 1218 06:31.29 < ) 06:31.29 < GFNI15 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.29 > GFNI16 UID FETCH 55140 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.31 < * 12 FETCH (UID 55140 RFC822.HEADER {1788} 06:31.31 read literal size 1788 06:31.34 < ) 06:31.34 < GFNI16 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.34 > GFNI17 UID FETCH 55147 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.40 < * 13 FETCH (UID 55147 RFC822.HEADER {1450} 06:31.40 read literal size 1450 06:31.44 < ) 06:31.44 < GFNI17 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.44 > GFNI18 UID FETCH 55153 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.46 < * 14 FETCH (UID 55153 RFC822.HEADER {1131} 06:31.46 read literal size 1131 06:31.49 < ) 06:31.49 < GFNI18 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.50 > GFNI19 UID FETCH 55156 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.51 < * 15 FETCH (UID 55156 RFC822.HEADER {1099} 06:31.51 read literal size 1099 06:31.55 < ) 06:31.55 < GFNI19 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.55 > GFNI20 UID FETCH 55157 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.59 < * 16 FETCH (UID 55157 RFC822.HEADER {1101} 06:31.59 read literal size 1101 06:31.63 < ) 06:31.63 < GFNI20 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.63 > GFNI21 UID FETCH 55161 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.65 < * 17 FETCH (UID 55161 RFC822.HEADER {1093} 06:31.65 read literal size 1093 06:31.69 < ) 06:31.69 < GFNI21 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.69 > GFNI22 UID FETCH 55167 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.70 < * 18 FETCH (UID 55167 RFC822.HEADER {1655} 06:31.70 read literal size 1655 06:31.73 < ) 06:31.73 < GFNI22 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.74 > GFNI23 UID FETCH 55168 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.75 < * 19 FETCH (UID 55168 RFC822.HEADER {1626} 06:31.75 read literal size 1626 06:31.79 < ) 06:31.79 < GFNI23 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.79 > GFNI24 UID FETCH 55169 RFC822.HEADER 06:31.80 < * 20 FETCH (UID 55169 RFC822.HEADER {1341} 06:31.80 read literal size 1341 06:31.84 < ) 06:31.84 < GFNI24 OK FETCH completed. 06:31.84 > GFNI25 UID FETCH 55169 (BODY.PEEK[]) 06:31.84 < * 20 FETCH (UID 55169 BODY[] {3873} 06:31.84 read literal size 3873 06:31.84 < ) 06:31.84 < GFNI25 OK FETCH completed. 06:32.02 > GFNI26 UID FETCH 55169 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 06:32.02 < * 20 FETCH (UID 55169 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-Aug-2006 04:04:17 -0500") 06:32.02 < GFNI26 OK FETCH completed. 06:32.02 > GFNI27 APPEND INBOX "11-Aug-2006 04:04:17 -0500" {4017} 06:32.03 < + OK 06:32.03 write literal size 4017 06:32.06 < GFNI27 OK [APPENDUID 1063604858 55181] APPEND Ok. 06:32.06 > GFNI28 UID STORE 55169 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 06:32.08 < GFNI28 OK STORE completed. 06:32.08 > GFNI29 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "200608110902.k7B925Rv017499 at pegasus.imse.ksu.edu") 06:32.27 < * SEARCH 06:32.27 < * 20 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen \Deleted)) 06:32.27 < GFNI29 OK SEARCH done. 06:32.27 > GFNI30 UID SEARCH RECENT 06:32.27 < * SEARCH 06:32.27 < GFNI30 OK SEARCH done. 06:32.27 > GFNI31 UID SEARCH ALL 06:32.28 < * SEARCH 53503 53505 54498 54929 54954 54969 54985 55051 55075 55121 55138 55140 55147 55153 55156 55157 55161 55167 55168 55169 55170 55171 55172 55173 55174 55175 55176 55177 55178 55179 55180 06:32.28 < GFNI31 OK SEARCH done. 06:32.28 > GFNI32 UID FETCH 55170 RFC822.HEADER 06:32.28 < * 21 FETCH (UID 55170 RFC822.HEADER {1328} 06:32.28 read literal size 1328 06:32.32 < ) 06:32.32 < GFNI32 OK FETCH completed. 06:32.32 > GFNI33 UID FETCH 55170 (BODY.PEEK[]) 06:32.32 < * 21 FETCH (UID 55170 BODY[] {3563} 06:32.32 read literal size 3563 06:32.32 < ) 06:32.32 < GFNI33 OK FETCH completed. 06:32.37 > GFNI34 UID FETCH 55170 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 06:32.37 < * 21 FETCH (UID 55170 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-Aug-2006 04:04:19 -0500") 06:32.37 < GFNI34 OK FETCH completed. 06:32.38 > GFNI35 APPEND INBOX "11-Aug-2006 04:04:19 -0500" {3707} 06:32.38 < + OK 06:32.39 write literal size 3707 06:32.42 < GFNI35 OK [APPENDUID 1063604858 55182] APPEND Ok. 06:32.42 > GFNI36 UID STORE 55170 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 06:32.43 < GFNI36 OK STORE completed. 06:32.43 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:32.43 > GFNI37 NOOP 06:32.45 < * 33 EXISTS 06:32.45 < * 0 RECENT 06:32.45 < GFNI37 OK NOOP completed 06:32.45 > GFNI38 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "200608110902.k7B928Tq028134 at gandalf.imse.ksu.edu") 06:32.47 < * SEARCH 55182 06:32.47 < GFNI38 OK SEARCH done. 06:32.47 > GFNI39 UID FETCH 55171 RFC822.HEADER 06:32.47 < * 22 FETCH (UID 55171 RFC822.HEADER {4275} 06:32.47 read literal size 4275 06:32.51 < ) 06:32.51 < GFNI39 OK FETCH completed. 06:32.51 > GFNI40 UID FETCH 55171 (BODY.PEEK[]) 06:32.52 < * 22 FETCH (UID 55171 BODY[] {6595} 06:32.52 read literal size 6595 06:32.56 < ) 06:32.56 < GFNI40 OK FETCH completed. 06:32.64 > GFNI41 UID FETCH 55171 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 06:32.64 < * 22 FETCH (UID 55171 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-Aug-2006 04:35:28 -0500") 06:32.64 < GFNI41 OK FETCH completed. 06:32.66 > GFNI42 APPEND INBOX "11-Aug-2006 04:35:28 -0500" {6696} 06:32.66 < + OK 06:32.66 write literal size 6696 06:32.72 < GFNI42 OK [APPENDUID 1063604858 55183] APPEND Ok. 06:32.72 > GFNI43 UID STORE 55171 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 06:32.75 < GFNI43 OK STORE completed. 06:32.75 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:32.75 > GFNI44 NOOP 06:32.79 < * 34 EXISTS 06:32.79 < * 0 RECENT 06:32.79 < GFNI44 OK NOOP completed 06:32.79 > GFNI45 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "200608111315.17116.vs at namesys.com") 06:32.81 < * SEARCH 55183 06:32.81 < GFNI45 OK SEARCH done. 06:32.81 > GFNI46 UID FETCH 55172 RFC822.HEADER 06:32.82 < * 23 FETCH (UID 55172 RFC822.HEADER {1852} 06:32.82 read literal size 1852 06:32.85 < ) 06:32.85 < GFNI46 OK FETCH completed. 06:32.86 > GFNI47 UID FETCH 55172 (BODY.PEEK[]) 06:32.86 < * 23 FETCH (UID 55172 BODY[] {17875} 06:32.86 read literal size 17875 06:32.86 < ) 06:32.86 < GFNI47 OK FETCH completed. 06:33.00 > GFNI48 UID FETCH 55172 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 06:33.00 < * 23 FETCH (UID 55172 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-Aug-2006 09:30:37 -0500") 06:33.00 < GFNI48 OK FETCH completed. 06:33.01 > GFNI49 APPEND INBOX "11-Aug-2006 09:30:37 -0500" {18013} 06:33.02 < + OK 06:33.02 write literal size 18013 06:33.07 < GFNI49 OK [APPENDUID 1063604858 55184] APPEND Ok. 06:33.07 > GFNI50 UID STORE 55172 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 06:33.10 < GFNI50 OK STORE completed. 06:33.10 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:33.10 > GFNI51 NOOP 06:33.11 < * 35 EXISTS 06:33.11 < * 0 RECENT 06:33.11 < GFNI51 OK NOOP completed 06:33.11 > GFNI52 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "44dc9323.0TUID9UNsaZGoyto%meissner at suse.de") 06:33.14 < * SEARCH 55184 06:33.14 < GFNI52 OK SEARCH done. 06:33.14 > GFNI53 UID FETCH 55173 RFC822.HEADER 06:33.14 < * 24 FETCH (UID 55173 RFC822.HEADER {1187} 06:33.14 read literal size 1187 06:33.18 < ) 06:33.18 < GFNI53 OK FETCH completed. 06:33.18 > GFNI54 UID FETCH 55173 (BODY.PEEK[]) 06:33.18 < * 24 FETCH (UID 55173 BODY[] {2199} 06:33.18 read literal size 2199 06:33.22 < ) 06:33.22 < GFNI54 OK FETCH completed. 06:33.25 > GFNI55 UID FETCH 55173 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 06:33.25 < * 24 FETCH (UID 55173 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-Aug-2006 09:57:37 -0500") 06:33.25 < GFNI55 OK FETCH completed. 06:33.26 > GFNI56 APPEND INBOX.spam-new "11-Aug-2006 09:57:37 -0500" {2327} 06:33.26 < + OK 06:33.26 write literal size 2327 06:48.13 < GFNI56 OK [APPENDUID 1077921887 9359] APPEND Ok. 06:48.13 > GFNI57 UID STORE 55173 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 06:48.17 < GFNI57 OK STORE completed. 06:48.17 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.17 > GFNI58 NOOP 06:48.19 < GFNI58 OK NOOP completed 06:48.19 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.19 > GFNI59 NOOP 06:48.20 < GFNI59 OK NOOP completed 06:48.20 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.20 > GFNI60 NOOP 06:48.22 < GFNI60 OK NOOP completed 06:48.22 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.22 > GFNI61 NOOP 06:48.23 < GFNI61 OK NOOP completed 06:48.23 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.23 > GFNI62 NOOP 06:48.24 < GFNI62 OK NOOP completed 06:48.24 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.24 > GFNI63 NOOP 06:48.25 < GFNI63 OK NOOP completed 06:48.25 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.25 > GFNI64 NOOP 06:48.26 < GFNI64 OK NOOP completed 06:48.26 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.26 > GFNI65 NOOP 06:48.27 < GFNI65 OK NOOP completed 06:48.27 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.27 > GFNI66 NOOP 06:48.29 < GFNI66 OK NOOP completed 06:48.29 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.29 > GFNI67 NOOP 06:48.30 < GFNI67 OK NOOP completed 06:48.30 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.30 > GFNI68 NOOP 06:48.31 < GFNI68 OK NOOP completed 06:48.31 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.31 > GFNI69 NOOP 06:48.32 < GFNI69 OK NOOP completed 06:48.32 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.32 > GFNI70 NOOP 06:48.34 < GFNI70 OK NOOP completed 06:48.34 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.34 > GFNI71 NOOP 06:48.35 < GFNI71 OK NOOP completed 06:48.35 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.35 > GFNI72 NOOP 06:48.37 < GFNI72 OK NOOP completed 06:48.37 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.37 > GFNI73 NOOP 06:48.38 < GFNI73 OK NOOP completed 06:48.38 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.38 > GFNI74 NOOP 06:48.39 < GFNI74 OK NOOP completed 06:48.39 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.39 > GFNI75 NOOP 06:48.42 < GFNI75 OK NOOP completed 06:48.42 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.42 > GFNI76 NOOP 06:48.43 < GFNI76 OK NOOP completed 06:48.43 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.43 > GFNI77 NOOP 06:48.45 < GFNI77 OK NOOP completed 06:48.45 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.45 > GFNI78 NOOP 06:48.46 < GFNI78 OK NOOP completed 06:48.46 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.46 > GFNI79 NOOP 06:48.47 < GFNI79 OK NOOP completed 06:48.47 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.47 > GFNI80 NOOP 06:48.48 < GFNI80 OK NOOP completed 06:48.48 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.48 > GFNI81 NOOP 06:48.49 < GFNI81 OK NOOP completed 06:48.49 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.49 > GFNI82 NOOP 06:48.50 < GFNI82 OK NOOP completed 06:48.50 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.50 > GFNI83 NOOP 06:48.53 < GFNI83 OK NOOP completed 06:48.53 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.53 > GFNI84 NOOP 06:48.55 < GFNI84 OK NOOP completed 06:48.55 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.55 > GFNI85 NOOP 06:48.61 < GFNI85 OK NOOP completed 06:48.61 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.61 > GFNI86 NOOP 06:48.64 < GFNI86 OK NOOP completed 06:48.64 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.64 > GFNI87 NOOP 06:48.65 < GFNI87 OK NOOP completed 06:48.65 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.65 > GFNI88 NOOP 06:48.68 < GFNI88 OK NOOP completed 06:48.68 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.68 > GFNI89 NOOP 06:48.70 < GFNI89 OK NOOP completed 06:48.70 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.70 > GFNI90 NOOP 06:48.73 < GFNI90 OK NOOP completed 06:48.73 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.73 > GFNI91 NOOP 06:48.75 < GFNI91 OK NOOP completed 06:48.75 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.75 > GFNI92 NOOP 06:48.76 < GFNI92 OK NOOP completed 06:48.76 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.76 > GFNI93 NOOP 06:48.77 < GFNI93 OK NOOP completed 06:48.77 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.77 > GFNI94 NOOP 06:48.78 < GFNI94 OK NOOP completed 06:48.78 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.78 > GFNI95 NOOP 06:48.80 < GFNI95 OK NOOP completed 06:48.80 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.80 > GFNI96 NOOP 06:48.81 < GFNI96 OK NOOP completed 06:48.81 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.81 > GFNI97 NOOP 06:48.82 < GFNI97 OK NOOP completed 06:48.82 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.82 > GFNI98 NOOP 06:48.83 < GFNI98 OK NOOP completed 06:48.83 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.83 > GFNI99 NOOP 06:48.84 < GFNI99 OK NOOP completed 06:48.84 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.85 > GFNI100 NOOP 06:48.86 < GFNI100 OK NOOP completed 06:48.86 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.86 > GFNI101 NOOP 06:48.87 < GFNI101 OK NOOP completed 06:48.87 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.87 > GFNI102 NOOP 06:48.89 < GFNI102 OK NOOP completed 06:48.89 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.89 > GFNI103 NOOP 06:48.90 < GFNI103 OK NOOP completed 06:48.90 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.90 > GFNI104 NOOP 06:48.91 < GFNI104 OK NOOP completed 06:48.91 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.91 > GFNI105 NOOP 06:48.92 < GFNI105 OK NOOP completed 06:48.92 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.92 > GFNI106 NOOP 06:48.93 < GFNI106 OK NOOP completed 06:48.93 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.93 > GFNI107 NOOP 06:48.94 < GFNI107 OK NOOP completed 06:48.94 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.94 > GFNI108 NOOP 06:48.95 < GFNI108 OK NOOP completed 06:48.95 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.95 > GFNI109 NOOP 06:48.96 < GFNI109 OK NOOP completed 06:48.97 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.97 > GFNI110 NOOP 06:48.98 < GFNI110 OK NOOP completed 06:48.98 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.98 > GFNI111 NOOP 06:48.99 < GFNI111 OK NOOP completed 06:48.99 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:48.99 > GFNI112 NOOP 06:49.35 < GFNI112 OK NOOP completed 06:49.35 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.35 > GFNI113 NOOP 06:49.37 < GFNI113 OK NOOP completed 06:49.37 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.37 > GFNI114 NOOP 06:49.39 < GFNI114 OK NOOP completed 06:49.39 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.39 > GFNI115 NOOP 06:49.40 < GFNI115 OK NOOP completed 06:49.40 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.40 > GFNI116 NOOP 06:49.42 < GFNI116 OK NOOP completed 06:49.42 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.42 > GFNI117 NOOP 06:49.44 < GFNI117 OK NOOP completed 06:49.44 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.44 > GFNI118 NOOP 06:49.46 < GFNI118 OK NOOP completed 06:49.46 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.46 > GFNI119 NOOP 06:49.47 < GFNI119 OK NOOP completed 06:49.47 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.47 > GFNI120 NOOP 06:49.48 < GFNI120 OK NOOP completed 06:49.48 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.48 > GFNI121 NOOP 06:49.50 < GFNI121 OK NOOP completed 06:49.50 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.50 > GFNI122 NOOP 06:49.52 < GFNI122 OK NOOP completed 06:49.52 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.52 > GFNI123 NOOP 06:49.53 < GFNI123 OK NOOP completed 06:49.53 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.53 > GFNI124 NOOP 06:49.55 < GFNI124 OK NOOP completed 06:49.56 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.56 > GFNI125 NOOP 06:49.60 < GFNI125 OK NOOP completed 06:49.60 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.60 > GFNI126 NOOP 06:49.62 < GFNI126 OK NOOP completed 06:49.62 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.62 > GFNI127 NOOP 06:49.63 < GFNI127 OK NOOP completed 06:49.63 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.63 > GFNI128 NOOP 06:49.64 < GFNI128 OK NOOP completed 06:49.65 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.65 > GFNI129 NOOP 06:49.66 < GFNI129 OK NOOP completed 06:49.66 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.66 > GFNI130 NOOP 06:49.67 < GFNI130 OK NOOP completed 06:49.67 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.67 > GFNI131 NOOP 06:49.68 < GFNI131 OK NOOP completed 06:49.68 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.68 > GFNI132 NOOP 06:49.70 < GFNI132 OK NOOP completed 06:49.70 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.70 > GFNI133 NOOP 06:49.71 < GFNI133 OK NOOP completed 06:49.71 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.71 > GFNI134 NOOP 06:49.73 < GFNI134 OK NOOP completed 06:49.73 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.73 > GFNI135 NOOP 06:49.75 < GFNI135 OK NOOP completed 06:49.75 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.75 > GFNI136 NOOP 06:49.76 < GFNI136 OK NOOP completed 06:49.76 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.76 > GFNI137 NOOP 06:49.78 < GFNI137 OK NOOP completed 06:49.78 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.78 > GFNI138 NOOP 06:49.79 < GFNI138 OK NOOP completed 06:49.79 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.79 > GFNI139 NOOP 06:49.81 < GFNI139 OK NOOP completed 06:49.81 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.81 > GFNI140 NOOP 06:49.82 < GFNI140 OK NOOP completed 06:49.82 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.82 > GFNI141 NOOP 06:49.84 < GFNI141 OK NOOP completed 06:49.84 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.84 > GFNI142 NOOP 06:49.85 < GFNI142 OK NOOP completed 06:49.85 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.85 > GFNI143 NOOP 06:49.87 < GFNI143 OK NOOP completed 06:49.87 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.87 > GFNI144 NOOP 06:49.88 < GFNI144 OK NOOP completed 06:49.88 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.88 > GFNI145 NOOP 06:49.89 < GFNI145 OK NOOP completed 06:49.89 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.89 > GFNI146 NOOP 06:49.90 < GFNI146 OK NOOP completed 06:49.90 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.90 > GFNI147 NOOP 06:49.92 < GFNI147 OK NOOP completed 06:49.92 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.92 > GFNI148 NOOP 06:49.93 < GFNI148 OK NOOP completed 06:49.93 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.93 > GFNI149 NOOP 06:49.94 < GFNI149 OK NOOP completed 06:49.94 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.94 > GFNI150 NOOP 06:49.95 < GFNI150 OK NOOP completed 06:49.95 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.95 > GFNI151 NOOP 06:49.97 < GFNI151 OK NOOP completed 06:49.97 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.97 > GFNI152 NOOP 06:49.98 < GFNI152 OK NOOP completed 06:49.98 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.98 > GFNI153 NOOP 06:49.99 < GFNI153 OK NOOP completed 06:49.99 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:49.99 > GFNI154 NOOP 06:50.00 < GFNI154 OK NOOP completed 06:50.00 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:50.00 > GFNI155 NOOP 06:50.02 < GFNI155 OK NOOP completed 06:50.02 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:50.02 > GFNI156 NOOP 06:50.03 < GFNI156 OK NOOP completed 06:50.03 untagged responses dump: MYRIGHTS: ""acdilrsw"" EXISTS: "31" "33" "34" "35" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1063604858 55181" "1063604858 55182" "1063604858 55183" "1063604858 55184" "1077921887 9359" UIDVALIDITY: "1063604858" 06:50.03 > GFNI157 NOOP 06:50.04 < GFNI157 OK NOOP completed SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 1.1a2 (April 2005). User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 1284, in ? run() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 1266, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 1067, in Filter self.unsure_folder, self.ham_folder) File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 970, in Filter msg.Save() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 723, in Save raise BadIMAPResponseError("recent", "Cannot find saved message") __main__.BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'recent' failed to give an OK response. Cannot find saved message From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Sat Aug 12 06:39:52 2006 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:39:52 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Removing spambayes 1.0.4 In-Reply-To: <44DBEE69.5080500@adam.com.au> Message-ID: <057701c6bdc9$5ab9ccc0$0200a8c0@enfoldsystems.local> > I have used Control Panel Add or Remove to remove spambayes. it says > that some items should be removed manually. > The icon is still in my taskbar. Attempts to remove the > program from the > Program Files folder will not allow python23.dll to be > removed. how do I > remove the program from my computer Outlook was probably running when you uninstalled it. Try completely closing Outlook (or rebooting), then deleting the files. The toolbar hanging around is a slightly different issue - see the FAQ for info on how to remove it: > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html Mark From skip at pobox.com Mon Aug 14 05:37:20 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:37:20 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Latest CVS update, Ocrad for Windows Message-ID: <17631.61424.222629.225936@montanaro.dyndns.org> I updated the OCR capabilities a bit more today. I added more intelligent assembly of split images into a single image after noticing that the spammers don't simply chop up multi-part GIF images horizontally. I also added a couple extra options (ocrad_scale and ocrad_charset) which control the image scaling factor (default is 2) and character set (default is "ascii") Ocrad uses. Scaling the image by a factor of 2 was a pretty obvious win: false positive percentages 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied 0.000 0.000 tied won 0 times tied 5 times lost 0 times total unique fp went from 0 to 0 tied mean fp % went from 0.0 to 0.0 tied false negative percentages 4.213 4.213 tied 1.404 0.843 won -39.96% 3.371 2.809 won -16.67% 2.528 2.247 won -11.12% 4.213 3.652 won -13.32% won 4 times tied 1 times lost 0 times total unique fn went from 56 to 49 won -12.50% mean fn % went from 3.14606741573 to 2.75280898876 won -12.50% Scaling by a factor of three was even better in the false negative department but regressed a bit in the false positive category so I checked Options.py in with a default scaling factor of 2. A couple things could stand to be further tested: * I have no idea how good Ocrad's scaling algorithm is. It's possible that PIL or NetPBM's scaling code is better. If so, it would make sense to scale the images before feeding to Ocrad. * The images I've see so far were all plain English, so I blindly made ascii the default charset. The other choices were iso-8859-9 and iso-8859-15. I simply assumed ascii would be the most appropriate default, but didn't test it. Finally, I put together a really simpleminded Ocrad-for-Windows release based upon the ocrad.exe binary that Tony built. Check the Files section of the SpamBayes project site: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 and grab ocrad-cygwin. There are a few caveats: 1. I don't do Windows. (No, really, I don't, strange as that may seem.) This is no fancy-schmancy point-and-shoot Windows installer. It's just a simple zip file with the Ocrad 0.15 distribution, Tony's .exe file and the patch he applied to the source. 2. I don't do Windows. The code I've written so far has been done entirely on my Mac. I've made no obvious concessions to portability. That said, I hope portability issues won't be daunting for any early adopters. 3. I don't do Windows. If you have problems it won't do you any good to mail me directly. Post about problems on the SpamBayes bug tracker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=61702&atid=498103 4. If you do Windows you will need PIL to take advantage of the recent changes: http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ (unless you want to put hair on your chest and build NetPBM on Windows). Fredrik Lundh provides prebuilt Windows versions of PIL. Grab the one appropriate for the version of Python you have installed. 5. If you do Windows (or any other platform for that matter), feedback to the lists about successes and failures would be helpful. Cheers, Skip From jennyw at dangerousideas.com Mon Aug 14 16:09:15 2006 From: jennyw at dangerousideas.com (jennyw) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:09:15 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] How to create a new messageinfodb? Message-ID: <44E0840B.1070603@dangerousideas.com> Hi, everyone, It's been a while since I last installed SpamBayes, so I could be missing something obvious, but ... I'm having trouble with sb_imapfilter.py and the MessageINfoDB. I think it's because although I created a blank hammie db (using sb_filter.py -d dbfile -n) I didn't create a blank MessageInfo file. As far as I know, this hasn't been a problem in the past -- I had thought that sb_imapfilter.py created this file. But it turns out I get this: "Warning: no dbm modules available for MessageInfoDB" instead. Any suggestions? FYI, I'm running SpamBayes on FreeBSD using Procmail for filtering; I only use IMAP for training, since each user doesn't have direct access to the mail files. Thanks! Jen From mlayton at oneilprint.com Mon Aug 14 17:11:12 2006 From: mlayton at oneilprint.com (Mark Layton) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:11:12 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Refresh issue Message-ID: <6EF5F81B18A70F4EAAFCCA652896938769E27C@exchange.oneil.local> Morning - I was just reading on the faq on the page which maybe dated but noticed that the error of having outlook 'pause' after you press 'recover from spam' or 'delete as spam' is still up there as a potential issue. I encountered this over a year ago and the problem lies in outlook + exchange + xp sp2 and not spambayes at all. The issue still happens infact if spambayes isn't installed at all. The issue that is causing it is our friend the microsoft firewall that was distributed with windows service pack 2. It is blocking the correct type of communication between the exchange server and the outlook client. There is a service release concerning it from microsoft - I find that I have to do this on every machine regardless of weather or not it has spambayes installed on it. To repair it - one must do the microsoft kb article - 839226. Hope that helps. Spambayes is a fabulous product - I would do almost anything to have it be a exchange server level program. ~Mark Mark Layton O'Neil Printing 366 North Second Avenue Phoenix, AZ 85003 D 602-252-0176 T 602-258-7789 www.oneilprint.com TRADITIONALLY INNOVATIVE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060814/0dbcd559/attachment.html From Sue.Edyvean at stgeorges.nhs.uk Mon Aug 14 17:27:17 2006 From: Sue.Edyvean at stgeorges.nhs.uk (Sue Edyvean) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:27:17 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Viewing and Using the Spam Score Field Message-ID: <5A9D3BCC1227314DA5D56E67F72A5F7B05DC1249@stg1xch04.net.stgeorges.nhs.uk> I am not a skilled user, but can do enough to get by. I am using Spambayes Outlook add-in version 1.04, with Windows XP, Outlook 2002, SP3 I followed the instructions on the spambayes 'help', then 'about spambayes', to look at the Spam Score field in Outlook. This worked when I last did it, but when I was trying to show someone else how to do it I could not get it to work. I could set up a 'spam' field column, but it didn't show anything. In the process I also messed up the column I had already set up, which now only shows in number format, and not percentage, and won't let me change it. Have I done something silly, or has something changed? Sue -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060814/13d78d82/attachment.htm From jonathan.phillips at leighcreekas.sa.edu.au Tue Aug 15 04:26:26 2006 From: jonathan.phillips at leighcreekas.sa.edu.au (Jonathan Phillips) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:56:26 +0930 Subject: [Spambayes] Mozilla Thunderbird Message-ID: <44E130D2.7030600@leighcreekas.sa.edu.au> To Whom it May Concern; Is there a way to get Spambayes to work with Mozilla Thunderbird? Thanks Jonathan Phillips -- Jonathan Phillips IT Support Leigh Creek Area School Ph: 08 86 752 062 Mobile: (work hrs 9AM-12PM Weekdays): 0429968446 From skip at pobox.com Tue Aug 15 12:59:01 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 05:59:01 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <44E130D2.7030600@leighcreekas.sa.edu.au> References: <44E130D2.7030600@leighcreekas.sa.edu.au> Message-ID: <17633.43253.95249.78736@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jonathan> Is there a way to get Spambayes to work with Mozilla Jonathan> Thunderbird? Sure, just use the pop3 proxy (sb_server) or the imapfilter. Check the docs for details: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.mojam.com/ "On the academic side, effort is too often expended on finding precise answers to the wrong questions." Baxter & Rennie, in "Financial Calculus" From mducati at wwp.ch Tue Aug 15 14:06:07 2006 From: mducati at wwp.ch (Ducati Marco) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:06:07 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes in a Company? Message-ID: Dear Spambayes Developer Team I am working in a small company with a total of three employees. We have heavy spam problems and we are trying to find an easy way to fight these masses of spam. I already know Spambayes because I use it at home as my spamfilter. After studying the license agreement of Spambayes respective the Python Software Foundation I'm not sure if we are allowed to use spambayes in our company. Could you give me some information about using spambayes in a company? Is there a way to license it for companies or is it completely free as described in the license agreement? Thank's a lot for your information and this great spamfilter! M. 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Everything seemed, to my imagination, to be hushed in reverence for by degrees he struggled less, and began to look at me - strangely lady that she smelt of my brandy, and that she would trouble her to With that he flourished off the contents of his little tin pot, as You have something to say, my good friend, returned my aunt, and the Surrogates, and to the Vicar-Generals office too, I told -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060815/7351eb29/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 7011 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060815/7351eb29/attachment.gif From skip at pobox.com Tue Aug 15 15:05:32 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:05:32 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes in a Company? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17633.50844.245771.43695@montanaro.dyndns.org> Marco> After studying the license agreement of Spambayes respective the Marco> Python Software Foundation I'm not sure if we are allowed to use Marco> spambayes in our company. Could you give me some information Marco> about using spambayes in a company? Yes, you are allowed to use it in corporate environments. It's completely free as described in the license agreement. Skip From Schwartz at kinggreisen.com Tue Aug 15 19:39:06 2006 From: Schwartz at kinggreisen.com (Laura E. Schwartz) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:39:06 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] junk mail folder disappears Message-ID: I'm having a problem with Spambayes in that it removes emails from my outlook in box but the junk mail folder itself disappears, despite having reloaded the program several times. Junk mail suspects folder is there, but I'm concerned that some non-junk is disappearing and can't be found to recover. Please let me know what can be done to fix this problem. Thank you. Laura E. Schwartz, Esq. KING & GREISEN, LLP 1670 York Street Denver, CO 80206 (303) 298-9878 (office) (303) 298-9879 (facsimile) schwartz at kinggreisen.com PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL******************** This electronic message transmission and any files transmitted with it, are a communication from the law firm of King & Greisen, LLP. This message contains information protected by the attorney/client privilege, is confidential or otherwise the exclusive property of the intended recipient or King & Greisen, LLP. This information is solely for the use of the individual or entity that is the intended recipient. If you are not the designated recipient, or the person responsible for delivering the communication to its intended recipient, please be aware that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060815/bf247bf9/attachment.htm From rdeyoung at WTWArch.com Tue Aug 15 20:27:09 2006 From: rdeyoung at WTWArch.com (Rich De Young) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:27:09 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem running on new Duo processor Message-ID: <18598ABA7DCADA4295DC3FDDECECEF91034AA283@wtwmail2.wtwarch.com> I have been running Spambayes for years with great success. I have just purchased a new Dell D620, running the new Centrino Duo processor. I have installed Outlook 2003, then tried to install Spambayes. When I open Outlook after loading Spambayes, it shows it as "disconnected" for a short time, then I get the error reporting screen to send to Microsoft. The log file is blank. Any idea what is going on or how to approach the problem? ...Rich -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Uninstalling & re-installing your application does not work. How can I fix this? There isn't anything online pertaining to this error. I am getting the No filterable messages are selected error but the FAQ doesn't help. Thank you System verbosity set to 1 No old pickle file to migrate Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\xxx\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\xxx\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 0 spam and 1 good messages Loaded databases in 3.6784ms SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] Folder xxx/Inbox' already has field 'Spam' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - xxx/Inbox' Folder 'Mailbox - xxx/Junk E-mail' already has field 'Spam' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - xxx/inbox' Folder 'Mailbox - xxx/Junk Suspects' already has field 'Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer New message timer started - id=2827, delay=2000 The timer with id=2827 fired Message 'August 15 - xxx' in 'Mailbox - xxx/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' New message timer started - id=2824, delay=1000 The timer with id=2824 fired The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping New message timer started - id=2771, delay=2000 The timer with id=2771 fired Message xxx' in 'Mailbox xxx/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' New message timer started - id=2640, delay=1000 The timer with id=2640 fired The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping Unexpected error fetching message Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 1024, in GetSelectedMessages File "msgstore.pyc", line 365, in GetMessage C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\lib\spambayes.modules\msgstore.py:126: FutureWarning: %u/%o/%x/%X of negative int will return a signed string in Python 2.4 and up MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 ERROR: 'No filterable mail items are selected' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 1024, in GetSelectedMessages File "msgstore.pyc", line 365, in GetMessage MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 ------------------------------- The information contained in this message may be privileged and / or confidential and protected from disclosure. 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The incredimail prog works ok but incoming mail is not being monitored at all. I suppose the first question is.- Does it work with Incredimail. Kind regards Mel. C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060816/ffc73fef/attachment.html From Miriam at algotec.co.il Wed Aug 16 09:18:17 2006 From: Miriam at algotec.co.il (Miriam Shtilman-Lavsovski) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:18:17 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBays Problem Message-ID: <42547F5799AC3E4BA67CF200167AD746C5DD96@mercury.algotec.co.il> Hi, I have been using SpamBayes for about 5 years. Recently, the software started moving some of the emails I'm receiving to the Junk folder, although they get a "o" score (see below and the original email attached). This repeats itself especially with emails coming from two senders (although not all of their emails are moved to Junk). I am marking these emails with "Recover from Spam", but it doesn't help. I even tried to upgrade to the new version, but with no luck. Any idea how I can resolve this problem? Thanks, Miriam Combined Score: 0% (0) Internal ham score (*H*): 1 Internal spam score (*S*): 0 # ham trained on: 1153 # spam trained on: 1666 47 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'from:addr:cps.co.il' 0.00600801 37 0 'email addr:cps.co.il' 0.0065312 34 0 'osnat' 0.0065312 34 0 'url:cps' 0.0065312 34 0 ':03-7664444' 0.00672646 33 0 'from:addr:osnatm' 0.00672646 33 0 'from:name:cpsosnat m' 0.00672646 33 0 'regardsosnat' 0.00672646 33 0 'resumedear' 0.00672646 33 0 'skip:0 40' 0.00672646 33 0 'subject:CPS' 0.00672646 33 0 'url:cps_pic' 0.00672646 33 0 'url:osnat' 0.00672646 33 0 'matethis' 0.00715421 31 0 'position!' 0.00715421 31 0 'mate' 0.0260429 34 1 'url:bmp' 0.0260429 34 1 'message-id:@QBMailSec' 0.0266272 8 0 'url:q-bytes' 0.0266272 8 0 'url:qb' 0.0266272 8 0 'url:qbms' 0.0266272 8 0 'cps' 0.0652174 3 0 'subject:\xee\xe5\xee\xe7\xe4' 0.0694325 12 1 'subject:\xee\xe5\xee\xe7\xe4 ' 0.0818348 10 1 'skip:0 10' 0.0819206 41 5 'malicious' 0.0951966 15 2 'bytes' 0.0996396 8 1 'scanned' 0.185349 22 7 'match' 0.194701 35 12 'leaving' 0.195999 12 4 'disclaimer:' 0.198746 9 3 'subject: ' 0.202302 47 17 'tel' 0.211237 60 23 'email name:info' 0.216954 43 17 'regards' 0.22056 69 28 'fax' 0.229145 68 29 'url:logo' 0.266026 50 26 'dear' 0.293873 125 75 'subjectcharset:windows-1255' 0.298578 210 129 'content' 0.306519 30 19 'skip:w 10' 0.345687 122 93 'gateway' 0.359863 10 8 'mail' 0.38221 65 58 'url:il' 0.382352 198 177 'url:co' 0.384089 191 172 'header:Return-Path:1' 0.637691 644 1638 'url:com' 0.66492 258 740 Message Stream X-MS-Mail-Gibberish: Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from tm.algotec.co.il ([62.0.46.12]) by mercury.algotec.co.il with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:11:54 +0200 Received: from qbmailsec.cps.co.il ([212.150.64.202]) by tm.algotec.co.il with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:16:30 +0300 Received: by qbmailsec.cps.co.il (Postfix, from userid 8) id 7E9238003E; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:36:13 +0300 (IDT) Received: from zeus.cps.co.il (unknown [10.10.0.10]) by qbmailsec.cps.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D3780048 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:36:08 +0300 (IDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6C05B.59001F58" Subject: =?windows-1255?B?7uXu5+QgIEMrKyAgIOH44+n24fH36SDg6fjkICBDUFMgIDcwNjIxNA= =?= X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:09:59 +0200 Message-ID: <000000000000bd61 at QBMailSec> (QBMailSec) X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: =?windows-1255?B?7uXu5+QgIEMrKyAgIOH44+n24fH36SDg6fjkICBDUFMgIDcwNjIxNA= =?= Thread-index: AcbAW1hshx7KkmCNSru8x/0BdVWRYw== X-Message-Flag: Follow up Reply-By: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:00:00 +0200 From: "CPSOsnat M" To: Return-Path: osnatm at cps.co.il X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2006 10:11:54.0147 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B9AFF30:01C6C053] Dear Mate This is a good match for your position! Best Regards Osnat Tel :03-7664444 Fax : 03-7664455/65 info at Cps.co.il www.Cps.co.il DISCLAIMER: This mail message was scanned for malicious content by Quality Bytes Mail Security when leaving the gateway of CPS RESUME< TR>

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'proto:http' 'quality' 'regards' 'regardsosnat' 'reply-to:none' 'resumedear' 'scanned' 'security' 'sender:none' 'skip:0 10' 'skip:0 40' 'skip:w 10' 'subject: ' 'subject:++ \xe1\xf8\xe3\xe9\xf6\xe1\xf1\xf7\xe9 \xe0\xe9\xf8\xe4 ' 'subject:706214' 'subject:CPS' 'subject:\xe0\xe9\xf8\xe4' 'subject:\xe1\xf8\xe3\xe9\xf6\xe1\xf1\xf7\xe9' 'subject:\xee\xe5\xee\xe7\xe4' 'subject:\xee\xe5\xee\xe7\xe4 ' 'subjectcharset:windows-1255' 'tel' 'the' 'this' 'to:2**0' 'to:addr:algotec.co.il' 'to:addr:miriam' 'to:no real name:2**0' 'url:' 'url:bmp' 'url:c' 'url:co' 'url:com' 'url:cps' 'url:cps_pic' 'url:il' 'url:logo' 'url:osnat' 'url:q-bytes' 'url:qb' 'url:qbms' 'url:www' 'was' 'when' 'x-mailer:none' 'your' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060816/6ddb2a0d/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "CPSOsnat M" Subject: =?windows-1255?B?7uXu5+QgIEMrKyAgIOH44+n24fH36SDg6fjkICBDUFMgIDcwNjIxNA==?= Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:09:59 +0200 Size: 68833 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060816/6ddb2a0d/attachment-0001.mht From tim at aterraform.com Wed Aug 16 13:36:39 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:36:39 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Doing Nothing In-Reply-To: <44E2E613.000003.03276@MEL> References: <44E2E613.000003.03276@MEL> Message-ID: <44E30347.5030307@aterraform.com> To my knowledge, there's no way to get spambayes to work with Incredimail. mel c wrote: > Hello, I have loaded Spambayes onto my X P and use Incredimail Premium > for all mail. I have reads the trouble shooter and have entered > localhost in the incoming bow etc. Whatever I try Spambaye remains > dormant. The programme came free with PC Pro. The incredimail prog > works ok but incoming mail is not being monitored at all. I suppose > the first question is.- Does it work with Incredimail. > Kind regards Mel. C > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 8/15/2006 > > From dpersin at 012.net.il Wed Aug 16 15:26:41 2006 From: dpersin at 012.net.il (Daniela Persin) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:26:41 +0300 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes - How do I uninstall Message-ID: <004401c6c137$a00a4ef0$01f414ac@hp7yc965n0ocoj> I have installed Spambayes some time ago and would like to uninstall it now. How do I do it?? I could not find any way to do it. Thank you in advance for your advice. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060816/b0270c21/attachment.htm From bierstedt at comcast.net Thu Aug 17 03:23:27 2006 From: bierstedt at comcast.net (Bob Bierstedt) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:23:27 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] problem with spambytes i think Message-ID: <000001c6c19b$be51a070$640fa8c0@bobtaormino> a couple days ago my spambytes stopped working. there is no spam number by new emails I cannot get the drop down menu "SapmBayhes" for the outlook menu file to drop down, so i cannot change anything i tried to delete and reinstall , but still same thing, If i have a email selected and click on "Delete as Spam" nothing happens. any suggestion would be appreciated.. Bob Bierstedt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: spambayes2.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1890 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060817/c36ee342/attachment.obj From abryson at bytefocus.com Fri Aug 18 04:57:52 2006 From: abryson at bytefocus.com (Alice Bryson ) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:57:52 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> References: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> Message-ID: <21ae1b060608171957q7f4311baw900c0fa51cc41530@mail.gmail.com> hi, guys: i have some same experience with Alan, the image spams without hyperlink i received are more and more these days, i notice that many html code of image has the same format like what the cid here mean? does it valueable for recognize this spam? --- mailto:abryson at bytefocus.com homepage:http://www.Wang-Labs.com 2006/8/2, Alan Arndt : > > Over the past month or more I have noticed a large increase in the amount of > spam I receive with the Spam text translated into images. The actual text > of the message is benign gibberish designed to pass Bayesian filters. They > have even taken the step of inserting random bits into the image so that no > two images have the same signature. I've received many multiple messages > with the same fundamental image. I haven't thought of a decent way to > filter these types of things. I hope someone else can and that it can get > implemented into SpamBayes. Until recently I was very please that only a > few messages a day (of 20-50) make it through. > > Does anyone have any good suggestions? I can certainly send plenty of > samples if someone needs them > > Thanks, > Alan Arndt > alan five eighty two at do it now.com > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: > http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -- Have a Good Day From skip at pobox.com Fri Aug 18 05:08:59 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:08:59 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <21ae1b060608171957q7f4311baw900c0fa51cc41530@mail.gmail.com> References: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> <21ae1b060608171957q7f4311baw900c0fa51cc41530@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17637.12107.629913.149910@montanaro.dyndns.org> Alice> .... i notice that many html code of image has the same format Alice> like SRC="cid:BB7EED6ABA at ascaniopainting.com"> what the cid here mean? Alice> does it valueable for recognize this spam? It just identifies an image that is delivered along with the message. By itself it doesn't mean a lot. Skip From shawn at 12pointdesign.com Fri Aug 18 05:14:18 2006 From: shawn at 12pointdesign.com (Shawn K. Hall) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:14:18 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in Images In-Reply-To: <21ae1b060608171957q7f4311baw900c0fa51cc41530@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04a201c6c274$64cbf1c0$0a00a8c0@daddy> > > what the cid here mean? does it valueable for recognize this spam? It's a content-id to point to the resource (image source, css content, script) within a multipart message with an HTML part. These are usually random, so it doesn't help. Regards, Shawn K. Hall http://12PointDesign.com/ From ankushspam at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 09:43:07 2006 From: ankushspam at gmail.com (ankush grover) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:13:07 +0530 Subject: [Spambayes] How to configure Spam Bayes if the server is running Imaps/Pop3s service only Message-ID: hey friends, I am trying to configure spam bayes for few clients on Windows XP. The problem I am facing is that the MailServer accepts connections from the email clients if the either Pop3s or Imaps is enable. The Mail Server is running on 172.16.1.25 (sendmail on FC3) and Spam Bayes is running on Server 172.16.1.120 Status & Configuration of Spam Bayes POP3 proxy running on 995, proxying to 172.16.1.25:110. Active POP3 conversations: 0. POP3 conversations this session: 2. Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. Total emails trained: Spam: 8 Ham: 0 More statistics... I have given the IPAddress of Spam Bayes in the Outlook Express for Imap/Pop but I am getting this error when I try to receive the mails. Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Account: 'Ankush', Server: '172.16.1.120', Protocol: POP3, Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F Email Client Configuration is like this Pop3 : 172.16.1.120:995 SMTP: 172.16.1.25:25 (with tls enable) Please let me know if you need any further inputs. Thanks & Regards Ankush Grover From skip at pobox.com Fri Aug 18 15:32:31 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:32:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Analyzing text in image spam (was: Spam in Images) In-Reply-To: <17637.12107.629913.149910@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> <21ae1b060608171957q7f4311baw900c0fa51cc41530@mail.gmail.com> <17637.12107.629913.149910@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <17637.49519.192540.305301@montanaro.dyndns.org> >>>>> "skip" == skip writes: Alice> .... i notice that many html code of image has the same format Alice> like SRC="cid:BB7EED6ABA at ascaniopainting.com"> what the cid here mean? Alice> does it valueable for recognize this spam? skip> It just identifies an image that is delivered along with the skip> message. By itself it doesn't mean a lot. I should have given a bit more complete answer based on your message's more general point. I recently added a fair amount of code to SpamBayes to "crack" the content of images. The new code works very well for me. If you'd like to try it, here's what you'll need to do: 1. Check out the latest source from the CVS repository. (There's been no new release since my recent checkins.) Install it. 2. Install the Python Imaging Library: http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ 3a. (Windows) Grab the ocrad-cygwin package from the SpamBayes Files page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 Unpack the zip file and copy ocrad.exe somewhere on your PATH. 3b. (Unix/Linux/Mac) Grab the ocrad source distribution from its web site: http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html Unpack and install it. I realize this may not be all that straightforward for people who are unused to installing open source software. Once you've done it a couple times though, it gets easier. Hopefully, we can get another SpamBayes alpha release out in the next little while. (Tony, if there's anything I can do to help make this happen, let me know.) Once you're ready to go, add the following to your SpamBayes options: x-lookup_ip: True lookup_ip_cache: ~/.dnscache x-image_size: True x-crack_images: True crack_image_cache: ~/.image_cache.pickle The first group is unrelated to the image spam, but I find it helps me a lot. It maps hostnames to their IP addresses using DNS and generates tokens based on those addresses. The second records tokens about the size of images. The third enables text extraction from images (OCR, or optical character recognition). This is where PIL and Ocrad come in. I still get the occasional false negative on image spam, but it's definitely manageable and should improve as Ocrad (itself still a very alpha piece of software) improves. Even though Ocrad does a poor job of text extraction from a human comprehension standpoint, it generates tokens that SpamBayes just loves and seems to generate enough unique tokens to tip the scales on most image spam. Skip From Ken.Mallernee at aaronrents.com Fri Aug 18 17:13:58 2006 From: Ken.Mallernee at aaronrents.com (Mallernee, Ken) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:13:58 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk suspects folder Message-ID: <29D1DA968DD8414CA236E670EBD2C0FD07C5B559@s2kcex003.aarons.aaronrents.com> I no longer have my junk suspects folder (not sure where it went) and I think I am missing some e-mails as a result. Also, not all of the e-mails marked spam are making it into the junk e-mail folder (whereas, before, that was not the case). Kenneth A. Mallernee Senior Legal Counsel Real Estate & Construction Aaron Rents, Inc. 309 E. Paces Ferry Rd. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060818/86fb0d91/attachment.htm From aga at jlw.com Fri Aug 18 19:15:50 2006 From: aga at jlw.com (Alan Arndt) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:15:50 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Analyzing text in image spam (was: Spam in Images) In-Reply-To: <17637.49519.192540.305301@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <002001c6c2e9$f639a7e0$660aa8c0@arrakis> Skip, That sounds great. Thanks. I don't know if I will take all the steps to try and get it up and running or wait for a new release, but we really appreciate it. I did have a few questions. How much time/processing does the OCR take? I would think that might be very intensive. Not that most people don't have the cycles to spare, or that it wouldn't be much faster than scanning the spam myself, but I'm just curious. Also, should one re-initialize the spam database? Are all tokens the same, once extracted these are just like any other? Or are they somehow grouped to relate to images? Thanks, Alan -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:33 AM To: Alice Bryson ; spambayes at python.org; Alan Arndt Subject: Analyzing text in image spam (was: Spam in Images) >>>>> "skip" == skip writes: Alice> .... i notice that many html code of image has the same format Alice> like SRC="cid:BB7EED6ABA at ascaniopainting.com"> what the cid here mean? Alice> does it valueable for recognize this spam? skip> It just identifies an image that is delivered along with the skip> message. By itself it doesn't mean a lot. I should have given a bit more complete answer based on your message's more general point. I recently added a fair amount of code to SpamBayes to "crack" the content of images. The new code works very well for me. If you'd like to try it, here's what you'll need to do: 1. Check out the latest source from the CVS repository. (There's been no new release since my recent checkins.) Install it. 2. Install the Python Imaging Library: http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ 3a. (Windows) Grab the ocrad-cygwin package from the SpamBayes Files page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 Unpack the zip file and copy ocrad.exe somewhere on your PATH. 3b. (Unix/Linux/Mac) Grab the ocrad source distribution from its web site: http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html Unpack and install it. I realize this may not be all that straightforward for people who are unused to installing open source software. Once you've done it a couple times though, it gets easier. Hopefully, we can get another SpamBayes alpha release out in the next little while. (Tony, if there's anything I can do to help make this happen, let me know.) Once you're ready to go, add the following to your SpamBayes options: x-lookup_ip: True lookup_ip_cache: ~/.dnscache x-image_size: True x-crack_images: True crack_image_cache: ~/.image_cache.pickle The first group is unrelated to the image spam, but I find it helps me a lot. It maps hostnames to their IP addresses using DNS and generates tokens based on those addresses. The second records tokens about the size of images. The third enables text extraction from images (OCR, or optical character recognition). This is where PIL and Ocrad come in. I still get the occasional false negative on image spam, but it's definitely manageable and should improve as Ocrad (itself still a very alpha piece of software) improves. Even though Ocrad does a poor job of text extraction from a human comprehension standpoint, it generates tokens that SpamBayes just loves and seems to generate enough unique tokens to tip the scales on most image spam. Skip From fturtle at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 19:18:49 2006 From: fturtle at gmail.com (Fast Turtle) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:18:49 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Analyzing text in image spam (was: Spam in Images) In-Reply-To: <17637.49519.192540.305301@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <002001c6b5a9$3e36ff50$6701a8c0@Caladan> <17637.12107.629913.149910@montanaro.dyndns.org> <17637.49519.192540.305301@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200608181018.56503.fturtle@gmail.com> On Friday 18 August 2006 06:32, skip at pobox.com wrote: > >>>>> "skip" == skip writes: > > Alice> .... i notice that many html code of image has the same format > Alice> like Alice> SRC="cid:BB7EED6ABA at ascaniopainting.com"> what the cid here > mean? Alice> does it valueable for recognize this spam? > > skip> It just identifies an image that is delivered along with the > skip> message. By itself it doesn't mean a lot. > > I should have given a bit more complete answer based on your message's more > general point. I recently added a fair amount of code to SpamBayes to > "crack" the content of images. The new code works very well for me. If > you'd like to try it, here's what you'll need to do: > > 1. Check out the latest source from the CVS repository. (There's been > no new release since my recent checkins.) Install it. > > 2. Install the Python Imaging Library: > http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ > > 3a. (Windows) Grab the ocrad-cygwin package from the > SpamBayes Files page: > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 > Unpack the zip file and copy ocrad.exe somewhere on your PATH. > > 3b. (Unix/Linux/Mac) Grab the ocrad source distribution from its web > site: > http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html > Unpack and install it. > > I realize this may not be all that straightforward for people who are > unused to installing open source software. Once you've done it a couple > times though, it gets easier. Hopefully, we can get another SpamBayes > alpha release out in the next little while. (Tony, if there's anything I > can do to help make this happen, let me know.) > > Once you're ready to go, add the following to your SpamBayes options: > > x-lookup_ip: True > lookup_ip_cache: ~/.dnscache > > x-image_size: True > > x-crack_images: True > crack_image_cache: ~/.image_cache.pickle > > The first group is unrelated to the image spam, but I find it helps me a > lot. It maps hostnames to their IP addresses using DNS and generates > tokens based on those addresses. The second records tokens about the size > of images. The third enables text extraction from images (OCR, or optical > character recognition). This is where PIL and Ocrad come in. > > I still get the occasional false negative on image spam, but it's > definitely manageable and should improve as Ocrad (itself still a very > alpha piece of software) improves. Even though Ocrad does a poor job of > text extraction from a human comprehension standpoint, it generates tokens > that SpamBayes just loves and seems to generate enough unique tokens to tip > the scales on most image spam. > > Skip > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html Just had an Idea that you may want to think about. If a message has an html part with a CID that references a proper domain name/ip address, why not add an option to tag that as high spam probablility unless it's on a whitelist. What I'm thinking is that most clients that can handle html mail now include the option to not load images from the web. Personally, I prefer and pretty much strictly use plain text and the only html format mail I even consider legit is white listed and I suspect many of us have the same belief -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060818/b892eeaa/attachment.pgp From robert.loesch at adelphia.net Fri Aug 18 20:59:39 2006 From: robert.loesch at adelphia.net (Bob Loesch) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:59:39 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Office 2007 Beta 2 Message-ID: <002c01c6c2f8$78037bd0$680a7370$@loesch@adelphia.net> Just wanted to let everyone know that SpamBayes 1.04 for Windows appears to run fine with Outlook 2007 Beta 2. Actually, I'm running the beta in a WinXP virtual guest on a WinXP host (VMWare Workstation 5). Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060818/0f871bd4/attachment.htm From sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com Sat Aug 19 01:06:48 2006 From: sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:06:48 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Analyzing text in image spam (was: Spam in Images) In-Reply-To: <200608181018.56503.fturtle@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Friday, August 18, 2006 12:19 PM -0500, Fast Turtle wrote: > If a message has an html part with a CID that references a proper > domain name/ip address, why not add an option to tag that as high > spam probablility unless it's on a whitelist. > > What I'm thinking is that most clients that can handle html mail > now include the option to not load images from the web. Personally, > I prefer and pretty much strictly use plain text and the only html > format mail I even consider legit is white listed and I suspect > many of us have the same belief I don't feel the same way at all. I get various commercial newsletters in HTML format, and I have no problem with it. Whitelisting is something I don't care to do and the HTML email usually has a text MIME part that satisfies SpamBayes' curiosity. Some of my clients use HTML email, and this is one battle I don't care taking to that front. In addition, some of my friends keep sending me HTML mail even though I've asked them for plain text only. My conclusion is that I'm stuck with HTML mail for the foreseeable future. This is not a perfect world. -- Seth Goodman From brendon at itandweb.com.au Sat Aug 19 06:06:04 2006 From: brendon at itandweb.com.au (Brendon Stokes) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:06:04 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <004901c6c344$ca4b1af0$0c05a8c0@office> Hi I have just installed spambayes on my home pc, I am a computer Technician and I am looking for an antispam filter just like spambayes that works with exchange 2003. Do you have a product, buying it is not an issue. Regards Brendon Stokes -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060819/4d281aae/attachment.html From tim at aterraform.com Sat Aug 19 15:49:18 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:49:18 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <004901c6c344$ca4b1af0$0c05a8c0@office> References: <004901c6c344$ca4b1af0$0c05a8c0@office> Message-ID: <44E716DE.5040806@aterraform.com> Spambayes is an open source project, written and maintained by volunteers. Donations are certainly appreciated, but not required by any means. There may very well be products that work in concert with Exchange, but ours is not one of them. Philosophically, we assert that the definition of what is and isn't spam varies so much between individuals, that a single definition enforced at the server, would never satisfy everyone. So our product works with each user, on their own machine, to allow them to define for themselves what is and is not spam. Brendon Stokes wrote: > Hi > > > > I have just installed spambayes on my home pc, I am a computer > Technician and I am looking for an antispam filter just like spambayes > that works with exchange 2003. Do you have a product, buying it is not > an issue. > > > > Regards > > Brendon Stokes > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.2/422 - Release Date: 8/17/2006 > > From evarj at verizon.net Sun Aug 20 00:39:50 2006 From: evarj at verizon.net (Everett A. Jenne) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Thunderbird Compatability Message-ID: <20060819223950.25053.qmail@web84111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Will SpamBayes work w/Mozellia Thunderbird? I see only M$ email programs listed. Thanks........evanj -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060819/7d4dd631/attachment.htm From tim at aterraform.com Sun Aug 20 00:48:21 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:48:21 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Thunderbird Compatability In-Reply-To: <20060819223950.25053.qmail@web84111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060819223950.25053.qmail@web84111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44E79535.8030908@aterraform.com> It will work just fine, you'll use the pop3proxy setup. However, the thunderbird mailer has a spam filter built in that's based on the spambayes filtering scheme. I use thunderbird and it works very well for me. Just right click on mails and select "mark as junk" or "mark as not junk" and miracles will soon be commonplace in your inbox :) Everett A. Jenne wrote: > Hi, > > Will SpamBayes work w/Mozellia Thunderbird? I see only M$ email > programs listed. > > Thanks........evanj > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 8/18/2006 > > From info at aquahort.com Sun Aug 20 23:11:34 2006 From: info at aquahort.com (John Seccombe) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:11:34 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] I've had Spambays for 3 months, have read your FAQs, can I ask about an option please. Message-ID: <3023F3F210D11D44A34A2FEE1C2209575502@aquasrv.aquahort.local> I've found if I keep at lest 200 to 300 spam rejects in the main junk folder, the program grabs 99% of all spam. Without a Spam filter like yours I would get 50 per day, which makes 95% junk emails. Could there be a added feature that the Spam folder automatically puts into the delete folder, all those junk emails older than say 2 weeks or one month or by size of folder eg over 5000kb ? This would be a good automatic feature? Regards ><{{{(*> John Seccombe Aquahort Ltd <'')}}}}>< Auckland, New Zealand Ph.64 9 5366201 Fax.64 9 5366362 www.aquahort.com ><{{{(*> Aust. Toll Free.Fax 1800 145668 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060821/47f1d06a/attachment.htm From peterb at zeta.org.au Mon Aug 21 01:35:23 2006 From: peterb at zeta.org.au (Peter Barker) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:35:23 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Analyzing text in image spam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200608210935.24197.peterb@zeta.org.au> I have installed the CVS version as suggested. A couple of points which may help others trying it (especially the PIL). I am using FC5 on AMD64, and had to install tk-devel, tcl-devel as well as tk and tcl (and tkinter etc). To get PIL to successfully include support for everything I had to add /usr/lib64 to the standard paths in setup.py. The freetype2 files required by PIL are in freetype-devel. I will report how it performs in a few days. Is there any way I can easily test it with my current spam collection without creating a new .hammiedb and starting again? My email is stored in one file/folder (mbox). I tried just feeding a few messages which had been incorrectly classified, and they were now classified as spam, but I think that is because I had trained them as spam after I received them (with version 1.1a2). I am using kmail with sb_bnfilter.py. Can I tell from the X-Spambayes-Evidence header if the new code is detecting any spam? Regards, Peter Barker > >>>>> "skip" == skip ? writes: > > I should have given a bit more complete answer based on your message's more > general point. ?I recently added a fair amount of code to SpamBayes to > "crack" the content of images. ?The new code works very well for me. ?If > you'd like to try it, here's what you'll need to do: > > ? ? 1. Check out the latest source from the CVS repository. ?(There's been > ? ? ? ?no new release since my recent checkins.) ?Install it. > > ? ? 2. Install the Python Imaging Library: > ? ? ? ? ? ?http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ > > ? ? 3a. (Windows) Grab the ocrad-cygwin package from the > ? ? ? ?SpamBayes Files page: > ? ? ? ? ? ?http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 > ? ? ? ?Unpack the zip file and copy ocrad.exe somewhere on your PATH. > > ? ? 3b. (Unix/Linux/Mac) Grab the ocrad source distribution from its web > ? ? ? ? site: > ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html > ? ? ? ? Unpack and install it. > > I realize this may not be all that straightforward for people who are > unused to installing open source software. ?Once you've done it a couple > times though, it gets easier. ?Hopefully, we can get another SpamBayes > alpha release out in the next little while. ?(Tony, if there's anything I > can do to help make this happen, let me know.) > > Once you're ready to go, add the following to your SpamBayes options: > > ? ? x-lookup_ip: True > ? ? lookup_ip_cache: ~/.dnscache > > ? ? x-image_size: True > > ? ? x-crack_images: True > ? ? crack_image_cache: ~/.image_cache.pickle > > The first group is unrelated to the image spam, but I find it helps me a > lot. ?It maps hostnames to their IP addresses using DNS and generates > tokens based on those addresses. ?The second records tokens about the size > of images. ?The third enables text extraction from images (OCR, or optical > character recognition). ?This is where PIL and Ocrad come in. > > I still get the occasional false negative on image spam, but it's > definitely manageable and should improve as Ocrad (itself still a very > alpha piece of software) improves. ?Even though Ocrad does a poor job of > text extraction from a human comprehension standpoint, it generates tokens > that SpamBayes just loves and seems to generate enough unique tokens to tip > the scales on most image spam. > > Skip From netinterns at yahoo.com Mon Aug 21 04:27:19 2006 From: netinterns at yahoo.com (Scott Rogers) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] strange files in c:\ directory Message-ID: <20060821022719.24221.qmail@web50201.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Philipp, We are also having those strange files in the C drive... Did you find out the cause of the problem? Thank you, Scott From tim at aterraform.com Mon Aug 21 05:06:36 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:06:36 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Analyzing text in image spam In-Reply-To: <200608210935.24197.peterb@zeta.org.au> References: <200608210935.24197.peterb@zeta.org.au> Message-ID: <44E9233C.60509@aterraform.com> One thing to keep in mind when compiling with PIL using distutils, is that PIL does dynamic inclusion, so you will get runtime errors on the compiled executable. You have to code the include for the image types you support, like: import BmpImagePlugin import JpegImagePlugin Peter Barker wrote: >I have installed the CVS version as suggested. A couple of points which may >help others trying it (especially the PIL). I am using FC5 on AMD64, and had >to install tk-devel, tcl-devel as well as tk and tcl (and tkinter etc). To >get PIL to successfully include support for everything I had to >add /usr/lib64 to the standard paths in setup.py. The freetype2 files >required by PIL are in freetype-devel. > >I will report how it performs in a few days. Is there any way I can easily >test it with my current spam collection without creating a new .hammiedb and >starting again? My email is stored in one file/folder (mbox). I tried just >feeding a few messages which had been incorrectly classified, and they were >now classified as spam, but I think that is because I had trained them as >spam after I received them (with version 1.1a2). I am using kmail with >sb_bnfilter.py. Can I tell from the X-Spambayes-Evidence header if the new >code is detecting any spam? > >Regards, >Peter Barker > > > >>>>>>>"skip" == skip writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>I should have given a bit more complete answer based on your message's more >>general point. I recently added a fair amount of code to SpamBayes to >>"crack" the content of images. The new code works very well for me. If >>you'd like to try it, here's what you'll need to do: >> >> 1. Check out the latest source from the CVS repository. (There's been >> no new release since my recent checkins.) Install it. >> >> 2. Install the Python Imaging Library: >> http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ >> >> 3a. (Windows) Grab the ocrad-cygwin package from the >> SpamBayes Files page: >> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 >> Unpack the zip file and copy ocrad.exe somewhere on your PATH. >> >> 3b. (Unix/Linux/Mac) Grab the ocrad source distribution from its web >> site: >> http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html >> Unpack and install it. >> >>I realize this may not be all that straightforward for people who are >>unused to installing open source software. Once you've done it a couple >>times though, it gets easier. Hopefully, we can get another SpamBayes >>alpha release out in the next little while. (Tony, if there's anything I >>can do to help make this happen, let me know.) >> >>Once you're ready to go, add the following to your SpamBayes options: >> >> x-lookup_ip: True >> lookup_ip_cache: ~/.dnscache >> >> x-image_size: True >> >> x-crack_images: True >> crack_image_cache: ~/.image_cache.pickle >> >>The first group is unrelated to the image spam, but I find it helps me a >>lot. It maps hostnames to their IP addresses using DNS and generates >>tokens based on those addresses. The second records tokens about the size >>of images. The third enables text extraction from images (OCR, or optical >>character recognition). This is where PIL and Ocrad come in. >> >>I still get the occasional false negative on image spam, but it's >>definitely manageable and should improve as Ocrad (itself still a very >>alpha piece of software) improves. Even though Ocrad does a poor job of >>text extraction from a human comprehension standpoint, it generates tokens >>that SpamBayes just loves and seems to generate enough unique tokens to tip >>the scales on most image spam. >> >>Skip >> >> >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > From BHandler at innercitylaw.org Mon Aug 21 21:38:39 2006 From: BHandler at innercitylaw.org (Betsy Handler) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:38:39 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk Suspects folder Message-ID: <54E6D885458EE341B0DA788A17160B64213D6C@server.innercity.local> Hi folks. I'm using Windows XP Professional, Outlook, SpamBayes Version 1.0.4, and, all of a sudden, one day, my "Junk Suspects" folder disappeared. How do I get it back? Thanks, Betsy Handler Betsy Handler, Litigation Director Inner City Law Center 1309 East 7th Street | Los Angeles, CA 90021 tel. 213.891.2880 | fax 213.891.2888 bhandler at innercitylaw.org This e-mail may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged. The content of this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or that person's agent, then the dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please contact the Inner City Law Center at once (213-891-2880), and delete all copies of it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060821/05ae1445/attachment.html From dnorcross at osprint.net Tue Aug 22 03:04:06 2006 From: dnorcross at osprint.net (David Norcross) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:04:06 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple Accounts? Message-ID: <00C3A0EE$08151504061F$013026@DavidN> Hello I have just downloaded spambayes and I am ready to begin configuration. I have multiple email accounts coming into my email client. I have searched through the site and cannot find the instructions for configuring spambayes for multiple accounts. Is it possible? And if so where would I find information on setting up spambayes for multiple accounts? Thank you David Norcross David Norcross Owner Office - 540-904-1406 Cell - 540-309-2158 Toll Free - 888-230-5945 Fax - 866-875-5269 dnorcross at osprint.net Free Report - Increase Revenues Without Spending Any More For Advertising - Click Here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060821/0efcbc1f/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpg Size: 52452 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060821/0efcbc1f/attachment-0001.jpg From tim at aterraform.com Tue Aug 22 05:35:28 2006 From: tim at aterraform.com (Tim Stone) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:35:28 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple Accounts? In-Reply-To: <00C3A0EE$08151504061F$013026@DavidN> References: <00C3A0EE$08151504061F$013026@DavidN> Message-ID: <44EA7B80.4000409@aterraform.com> Are you using Outlook, or a pop3 email account? David Norcross wrote: > Hello > > > > I have just downloaded spambayes and I am ready to begin > configuration. I have multiple email accounts coming into my email > client. I have searched through the site and cannot find the > instructions for configuring spambayes for multiple accounts. Is it > possible? And if so where would I find information on setting up > spambayes for multiple accounts? > > > > Thank you > > > > David Norcross > > > > > > David Norcross > /Owner/ > > Office - 540-904-1406 > Cell - 540-309-2158 > Toll Free - 888-230-5945 > Fax - 866-875-5269 > dnorcross at osprint.net > > Free Report - Increase Revenues Without Spending Any More For > Advertising - Click Here > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 8/18/2006 > > From peterb at zeta.org.au Tue Aug 22 08:17:21 2006 From: peterb at zeta.org.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:17:21 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Analyzing text in image spam Message-ID: <200608221617.21348.peterb@zeta.org.au> I have been running the code from CVS for a couple of days, and I am not sure if analyzing text in images is making a difference. Can I tell from the Evidence header (or by other means) if the image analyzer is actually being used, and what evidence it is finding? From spambayes at tonyaustin.com Tue Aug 22 10:58:18 2006 From: spambayes at tonyaustin.com (Tony Austin) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:58:18 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] text in image spam: feature suggestion In-Reply-To: <200608221617.21348.peterb@zeta.org.au> References: <200608221617.21348.peterb@zeta.org.au> Message-ID: <44EAC72A.5000504@tonyaustin.com> Sorry if this is already included. Would a simple hash of the image file be useful for eliminating spam? A lot of spams seem to send the same image with completely different text. -tony Peter Barker wrote: > I have been running the code from CVS for a couple of days, and I am not sure > if analyzing text in images is making a difference. Can I tell from the > Evidence header (or by other means) if the image analyzer is actually being > used, and what evidence it is finding? > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > From skip at pobox.com Tue Aug 22 11:45:13 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:45:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] text in image spam: feature suggestion In-Reply-To: <44EAC72A.5000504@tonyaustin.com> References: <200608221617.21348.peterb@zeta.org.au> <44EAC72A.5000504@tonyaustin.com> Message-ID: <17642.53801.765483.170786@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tony> Sorry if this is already included. Would a simple hash of the Tony> image file be useful for eliminating spam? A lot of spams seem to Tony> send the same image with completely different text. Maybe, though maybe not. They do make changes in the image as well. I just saw several of the same one where there were various changes: font, blinking, etc. Also, with the pump & dump scams they seem to keep you "updated" on the rising price of the stock as time goes on. Any of those would change the hash. I am already computing the log of the size (then truncating to an int). I suspect that would be less sensitive to minor changes in the image. Skip From skip at pobox.com Tue Aug 22 11:50:16 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:50:16 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Analyzing text in image spam In-Reply-To: <200608221617.21348.peterb@zeta.org.au> References: <200608221617.21348.peterb@zeta.org.au> Message-ID: <17642.54104.568982.199436@montanaro.dyndns.org> Peter> I have been running the code from CVS for a couple of days, and I Peter> am not sure if analyzing text in images is making a Peter> difference. Can I tell from the Evidence header (or by other Peter> means) if the image analyzer is actually being used, and what Peter> evidence it is finding? Sure, you'll probably see lots of tokens with runs of underscore characters, such as (from spamcounts output): token,nspam,nham,spam prob yn__,1,0,0.844827586207 _ol__,2,0,0.908163265306 __leht,1,0,0.844827586207 _omo____,1,0,0.844827586207 rpo_la_o__,1,0,0.844827586207 _lo__,4,0,0.949438202247 __a_,1,0,0.844827586207 Those correspond to characters it could tell were there, but didn't recognize. Did you start training from scratch? Skip From jsp at PKC.com Tue Aug 22 15:04:15 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:04:15 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk Suspects folder In-Reply-To: <54E6D885458EE341B0DA788A17160B64213D6C@server.innercity.local> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D049A3@PKCVT01.pkc.com> http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder may help. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Betsy Handler Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:39 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Junk Suspects folder Hi folks. I'm using Windows XP Professional, Outlook, SpamBayes Version 1.0.4, and, all of a sudden, one day, my "Junk Suspects" folder disappeared. How do I get it back? 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060822/44b57f23/attachment.html From jim.mcmaster at gmail.com Tue Aug 22 15:46:51 2006 From: jim.mcmaster at gmail.com (Jim McMaster) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:46:51 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] text in image spam: feature suggestion In-Reply-To: <17642.53801.765483.170786@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <005301c6c5f1$6dbe5c20$ec01040a@corp.localmatters.com> spambayes-bounces at python.org wrote: > Tony> Sorry if this is already included. Would a simple > hash of the > Tony> image file be useful for eliminating spam? A lot of > spams seem to > Tony> send the same image with completely different text. > > Maybe, though maybe not. They do make changes in the image > as well. I just > saw several of the same one where there were various changes: font, > blinking, etc. Also, with the pump & dump scams they seem to keep you > "updated" on the rising price of the stock as time goes on. > Any of those > would change the hash. I am already computing the log of the > size (then > truncating to an int). I suspect that would be less > sensitive to minor > changes in the image. > There also was an article on a murdered Russian spammer, who randomly changed the colors of a few pixels in each copy of the image to defeat just this tactic. -- Jim McMaster mailto:jim.mcmaster at gmail.com From craven at NRCan.gc.ca Tue Aug 22 15:44:21 2006 From: craven at NRCan.gc.ca (Craven, Jim) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:44:21 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook web access while 'out of office' Message-ID: <159FD28F03D76E468EE6650EB50072D0C5ED33@S0-OTT-X2.nrn.nrcan.gc.ca> Normally when I connect to my Outlook email using the Outlook web interface (OWA) I am grateful to see SpamBayes Addin automatically work its magic and spam are nicely dealt with. However, I have noticed that when 'Out of Office' is enabled then SpamBayes does not run and my Inbox runneth over when I connect via OWA. Is that to be expected or will an upgrade or workaround help? Outlook 2003 SP2 SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 0.81 Sept. 9, 2003 Thanks, Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060822/5d0ed4bc/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Tue Aug 22 16:04:40 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:04:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] text in image spam: feature suggestion In-Reply-To: <005301c6c5f1$6dbe5c20$ec01040a@corp.localmatters.com> References: <17642.53801.765483.170786@montanaro.dyndns.org> <005301c6c5f1$6dbe5c20$ec01040a@corp.localmatters.com> Message-ID: <17643.3832.598777.765536@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jim> There also was an article on a murdered Russian spammer, who Jim> randomly changed the colors of a few pixels in each copy of the Jim> image to defeat just this tactic. I hope he wasn't snuffed by a disgruntled spam filter author... Skip From spambayes at tonyaustin.com Tue Aug 22 16:06:21 2006 From: spambayes at tonyaustin.com (Tony Austin) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:06:21 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook web access while 'out of office' In-Reply-To: <159FD28F03D76E468EE6650EB50072D0C5ED33@S0-OTT-X2.nrn.nrcan.gc.ca> References: <159FD28F03D76E468EE6650EB50072D0C5ED33@S0-OTT-X2.nrn.nrcan.gc.ca> Message-ID: <44EB0F5D.6070401@tonyaustin.com> Disable Out of Office perhaps? See... http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html -tony Craven, Jim wrote: > > Normally when I connect to my Outlook email using the Outlook web > interface (OWA) I > am grateful to see SpamBayes Addin automatically work its magic and > spam are nicely > dealt with. However, I have noticed that when 'Out of Office' is > enabled then SpamBayes > does not run and my Inbox runneth over when I connect via OWA. Is > that to be expected > or will an upgrade or workaround help? > > Outlook 2003 SP2 > SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 0.81 Sept. 9, 2003 > > Thanks, > > Jim > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From spambayes at tonyaustin.com Tue Aug 22 16:10:01 2006 From: spambayes at tonyaustin.com (Tony Austin) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:10:01 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook web access while 'out of office' In-Reply-To: <44EB0F5D.6070401@tonyaustin.com> References: <159FD28F03D76E468EE6650EB50072D0C5ED33@S0-OTT-X2.nrn.nrcan.gc.ca> <44EB0F5D.6070401@tonyaustin.com> Message-ID: <44EB1039.70108@tonyaustin.com> LOL, ignore that. I should read the email properly before sending cocky responses! I confused OWA with Out of Office :p -tony Tony Austin wrote: > Disable Out of Office perhaps? See... > > http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html > > -tony > > Craven, Jim wrote: > >> Normally when I connect to my Outlook email using the Outlook web >> interface (OWA) I >> am grateful to see SpamBayes Addin automatically work its magic and >> spam are nicely >> dealt with. However, I have noticed that when 'Out of Office' is >> enabled then SpamBayes >> does not run and my Inbox runneth over when I connect via OWA. Is >> that to be expected >> or will an upgrade or workaround help? >> >> Outlook 2003 SP2 >> SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 0.81 Sept. 9, 2003 >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jim >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SpamBayes at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > From bil.burton at oregonstate.edu Tue Aug 22 18:22:46 2006 From: bil.burton at oregonstate.edu (Burton, Bil) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:22:46 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing "recover" button Message-ID: A) The "report problems" section is rather overwhelming and (from what I see)-I have to register to ask about what is probably an easy fix. If this is a FAQ-sorry, perhaps an easy (readable, text) FAQ chapter would be nice. B) I lost my hard drive & reinstalled Spambayes (most recent). I have a delete as spam button but the recover from spam button isn't here and I can't add it. C) I don't see information about this Bil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060822/3da4aa74/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Tue Aug 22 20:07:51 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:07:51 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing "recover" button In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D049A5@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Forgot to copy my original response to the list; doing so now to capture the message thread. It sounds like you're sorted out, with one possible exception that you've dealt with before. SpamBayes is a volunteer open source project. If you have thoughtful, specific suggestions, I think you'll find the developers receptive, especially if they're backed up with an implementation patch. ________________________________ From: Burton, Bil [mailto:bil.burton at oregonstate.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:53 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Missing "recover" button Thanks for response (quick). I got it (displayed on tool bar) (back to that issue in a second). There is a FAQ that addresses the problem but that isn't the link that is displayed at the "faq" troubleshooting section. I think it is only after you submit a "request to submit" that the HTM page is displayed (and that page... wasn't helpful to me but it was there at least). So-I think I was hinting at: the trouble section is scarely and not at all easy to find where you want to go and I am pretty good at getting around. I did configure it ("default setup", i.e., Junk Suspects was my folder for junk suspects) and am "sure" I did it right. It seemed SB didn't know where the junk suspect was at ( until .. it may have found it when I started to right click on the folder to examine properties). Clicking on the toolbar menu-to get to spambayes (selection) was light grey. Previous (many months ago) I also had problem with many many incidences of SB running (multiple tool bar). Forgot what I did to fix that, looking forward to doing it again. Thanks ________________________________ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:30 AM To: Burton, Bil Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Missing "recover" button There's a FAQ at http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html. I don't think it addresses this question, though. You'll only have a "Recover from Spam" or "Not Spam" button when you've selected the "Certain Spam" folder or the "Possible Spam" folder. (The titles for these folders might be different in your version of SpamBayes.) Have you configured SpamBayes to specify these folders? If not, select SpamBayes from the Outlook toolbar, click SpamBayes Manager..., then click Configuration Wizard... to set it up. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Burton, Bil Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:23 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Missing "recover" button A) The "report problems" section is rather overwhelming and (from what I see)-I have to register to ask about what is probably an easy fix. If this is a FAQ-sorry, perhaps an easy (readable, text) FAQ chapter would be nice. B) I lost my hard drive & reinstalled Spambayes (most recent). I have a delete as spam button but the recover from spam button isn't here and I can't add it. C) I don't see information about this Bil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have attached the gif image I used for testing. Thanks, Peter Barker > ? ? Peter> I have been running the code from CVS for a couple of days, and I > Peter> am not sure if analyzing text in images is making a > ? ? Peter> difference. Can I tell from the Evidence header (or by other > ? ? Peter> means) if the image analyzer is actually being used, and what > ? ? Peter> evidence it is finding? > > Sure, you'll probably see lots of tokens with runs of underscore > characters, such as (from spamcounts output): > > ? ? token,nspam,nham,spam prob > ? ? yn__,1,0,0.844827586207 > ? ? _ol__,2,0,0.908163265306 > ? ? __leht,1,0,0.844827586207 > ? ? _omo____,1,0,0.844827586207 > ? ? rpo_la_o__,1,0,0.844827586207 > ? ? _lo__,4,0,0.949438202247 > ? ? __a_,1,0,0.844827586207 > > Those correspond to characters it could tell were there, but didn't > recognize. > > Did you start training from scratch? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060823/7a332668/attachment.htm From guillaume.pollet at gmail.com Wed Aug 23 09:23:58 2006 From: guillaume.pollet at gmail.com (Guillaume Pollet) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:23:58 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] As a donation, I propose to translate this soft in french Message-ID: <9bc434e60608230023tfe72299g6644f9822ab69d06@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am working for a french medium telecom firm. My duty consist to install and resolve issues in our customers' VoIP networks. I am also in charge of the improvement of the information system of my company. I am looking forward for new tools and methods to increase productivity. SpamBayes is a very interessant software. I installed it on several machines in my department and everyone who tried it are very satisfied. It save a lot of time sorting out the enormous quantity of spam we receive. I plan to deploy it on more machines soon. However, I think that it would be better to have this application in french. That's why I would like to participate to the translation of this tool, if you are interested in. Just let me know how to do this. You can give me a speadsheet or anything else that I can edit and I would translate all the sentences in french. Rgds, Guillaume -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060823/6521b7a8/attachment.html From alain.cormery at interieur.gouv.fr Wed Aug 23 09:43:06 2006 From: alain.cormery at interieur.gouv.fr (CORMERY Alain PP-DOSTL SDSIC DEXP) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:43:06 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam bayes in French ? Message-ID: <8F6D298DE375D9119B16000BDB9252BC01D6BCF6@msg14pp.ppol.mi> Bonjour, Toujours la m?me question, une version Fran?aise est elle pr?vue. Merci pour la r?ponse Hello, Always the same question, a French version she(it) is foreseen. Thank you for the answer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060823/3fb8bfb4/attachment.htm From rowan.bradley at herbertgroup.com Wed Aug 23 09:41:55 2006 From: rowan.bradley at herbertgroup.com (Rowan Bradley) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:41:55 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Several Outlook clients using same Spam Database Message-ID: <358742D9BB023040AEDFFD54381F3A4E2567D3@PC254> I've configured two PCs (a notebook and a desktop) with Outlook and SpamBayes to use the same database folder, which is on the desktop PC which is always present and switched on. - Should this configuration work properly? - Can I open Outlook on either PC, and use the same database? - Can I do Delete As Spam or Recover From Spam with incremental training, and update the database from either PC? - Can I run both copies of Outlook at the same time? What happens when both copies try to read from or write to the database at the same time? Are there file or record locking problems? Thanks - Rowan From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Aug 23 15:26:28 2006 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:26:28 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Latest CVS update, Ocrad for Windows In-Reply-To: <17631.61424.222629.225936@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <007201c6c6b7$be617290$020a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Hi Skip, > Scaling the image by a factor of 2 was a pretty > obvious win: > > false positive percentages > 0.000 0.000 tied > 0.000 0.000 tied > 0.000 0.000 tied > 0.000 0.000 tied > 0.000 0.000 tied I'm playing a little with the new code and am trying to get things working with outlook. I'm a little stuck working out how to get some test data (and it doesn't help I'm a little rusty wrt to spambayes :) I'm trying to run the testtools code. The Outlook code that sets up the Data/Ham, Data/Spam directories etc just exports the text body of the message, but completely ignores 'attachments'. I'm out of time for tonight - can you offer any quick clues how your test environment is setup? Thanks, Mark. From skip at pobox.com Wed Aug 23 17:33:03 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:33:03 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Latest CVS update, Ocrad for Windows In-Reply-To: <007201c6c6b7$be617290$020a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> References: <17631.61424.222629.225936@montanaro.dyndns.org> <007201c6c6b7$be617290$020a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> Message-ID: <17644.29999.936120.882486@montanaro.dyndns.org> Mark> I'm trying to run the testtools code. The Outlook code that sets Mark> up the Data/Ham, Data/Spam directories etc just exports the text Mark> body of the message, but completely ignores 'attachments'. I'm Mark> out of time for tonight - can you offer any quick clues how your Mark> test environment is setup? Quick clue: I'm not using Outlook or Windows. ;-) I don't know what to do given that Outlook shreds email so completely. Maybe this stuff can only be tested on Unix-y machines. Maybe the image analysis code won't even work because there's no such thing as an attachment with MIME content-type image/*... in Outlook. As for actual setup, it's done in what I think is the "usual" way. I start with two or more Unix mbox format files (at least one full of ham, one full of spam). I then run utilities/splitndirs.py to allocate them to the desired number of Data/{Ham,Spam}/SetN directories. I then make a series of runs like so: # control run python testtools/timcv.py ... args ... > std.txt python testtools/rates.py std.txt # one or more test runs with various parameters changed python testtools/timcv.py ... slightly different args ... > testN.txt python testtools/rates.py testN.txt python testtools/cmp.py stds.txt testNs.txt My guess is there's an easier way to run the tests and summarize the results, but it had been awhile since I'd done any testing either. This was the first "working" setup I stumbled upon, and thanks to my enormous bash command history buffer, I just recall the commands as I need them, so the pain of re-remebering is small. HTH, Skip From skip at pobox.com Wed Aug 23 18:41:02 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:41:02 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] As a donation, I propose to translate this soft in french In-Reply-To: <9bc434e60608230023tfe72299g6644f9822ab69d06@mail.gmail.com> References: <9bc434e60608230023tfe72299g6644f9822ab69d06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17644.34078.279201.5483@montanaro.dyndns.org> Guillaume> SpamBayes is a very interessant software. I installed it on Guillaume> several machines in my department and everyone who tried it Guillaume> are very satisfied. It save a lot of time sorting out the Guillaume> enormous quantity of spam we receive. I plan to deploy it on Guillaume> more machines soon. We're glad you like it. We all do as well. Well, except for any spammers who happen to be subscribed to this list. ;-) Guillaume> However, I think that it would be better to have this Guillaume> application in french. That's why I would like to Guillaume> participate to the translation of this tool, if you are Guillaume> interested in. Just let me know how to do this. You can give Guillaume> me a speadsheet or anything else that I can edit and I would Guillaume> translate all the sentences in french. If you check out the source code from CVS and look in the spambayes/languages directory you'll see an fr directory there. I'm not sure about the details of its creation, but I believe they are spelled out in the README-DEVEL.txt file in the top level of the source tree. Search in that file for the string "Making a translation". Skip From charlesmcvey93 at marshall.usc.edu Wed Aug 23 17:41:58 2006 From: charlesmcvey93 at marshall.usc.edu (Chuck McVey) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:41:58 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <002901c6c6ca$abb977b0$6401a8c0@tiffanysvolant> For about 2-3 months I have been receiving E-Mails like the attached. 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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Aug 23 23:52:45 2006 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:52:45 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Latest CVS update, Ocrad for Windows In-Reply-To: <17644.29999.936120.882486@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <01ef01c6c6fe$7c23ed80$020a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> > Quick clue: I'm not using Outlook or Windows. ;-) Yep, I know that :) My mail was sent fairly late, so I didn't explain very well. > I don't > know what to do > given that Outlook shreds email so completely. Maybe this > stuff can only be > tested on Unix-y machines. Maybe the image analysis code > won't even work > because there's no such thing as an attachment with MIME content-type > image/*... in Outlook. I can manage all of that. What I need to know is in what format your Ham and Spam directories are. Currently mine are in plain-text. A quick look at the code showed that these were *not* expected to be a dump of a mime message, but instead a simple "word stream" - which didn't seem to fit with the binary data inside attachments. I was guessing they had already been processed to some degree, but gave up before digging deeper. > As for actual setup, it's done in what I think is the "usual" > way. I start > with two or more Unix mbox format files (at least one full of > ham, one full > of spam). I then run utilities/splitndirs.py to allocate them to the > desired number of Data/{Ham,Spam}/SetN directories. I then > make a series of > runs like so: hrm - so maybe they *are* just the complete dump of the message including the encoded image data and mime boundaries etc - I'll play a little more and look inside splitndirs. 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Mike Baril MRB Consulting, Inc Office: 508-875-9391 Cell: 617-905-8831 Fax: 508-969-9916 www.mrb-consulting.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060824/331d9396/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Aug 24 07:51:31 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:51:31 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] As a donation, I propose to translate this soft in french In-Reply-To: <17644.34078.279201.5483@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <9bc434e60608230023tfe72299g6644f9822ab69d06@mail.gmail.com> <17644.34078.279201.5483@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <94837198-C87D-4F5F-AD1F-FB1F52D0970B@ihug.co.nz> [Guillaume] >> However, I think that it would be better to have this >> application in french. That's why I would like to >> participate to the translation of this tool, if you are >> interested in. Just let me know how to do this. You can give >> me a speadsheet or anything else that I can edit and I would >> translate all the sentences in french. > > If you check out the source code from CVS and look in the > spambayes/languages directory you'll see an fr directory there. > I'm not > sure about the details of its creation, but I believe they are > spelled out > in the README-DEVEL.txt file in the top level of the source tree. > Search in > that file for the string "Making a translation". That is correct. There is a partial translation (for 1.1) done already, but it does need finishing off. I'm not sure why the people that volunteer to do translations aren't finishing it. If the problem that the process is too complicated, or if there's something else that we can do to make it easier, then *please* let us know that. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From guillaume.pollet at gmail.com Thu Aug 24 09:07:50 2006 From: guillaume.pollet at gmail.com (Guillaume Pollet) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:07:50 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] As a donation, I propose to translate this soft in french In-Reply-To: <94837198-C87D-4F5F-AD1F-FB1F52D0970B@ihug.co.nz> References: <9bc434e60608230023tfe72299g6644f9822ab69d06@mail.gmail.com> <17644.34078.279201.5483@montanaro.dyndns.org> <94837198-C87D-4F5F-AD1F-FB1F52D0970B@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <9bc434e60608240007x15bc4f3fl5a9392df50b4566e@mail.gmail.com> OK, is there only the file dialogs.rc in \languages\fr\DIALOGS folder to modify? I saw some sentences in french and some in english inside... Guipo On 8/24/06, Tony Meyer wrote: > > [Guillaume] > >> However, I think that it would be better to have this > >> application in french. That's why I would like to > >> participate to the translation of this tool, if you are > >> interested in. Just let me know how to do this. You can give > >> me a speadsheet or anything else that I can edit and I would > >> translate all the sentences in french. > > > > If you check out the source code from CVS and look in the > > spambayes/languages directory you'll see an fr directory there. > > I'm not > > sure about the details of its creation, but I believe they are > > spelled out > > in the README-DEVEL.txt file in the top level of the source tree. > > Search in > > that file for the string "Making a translation". > > That is correct. There is a partial translation (for 1.1) done > already, but it does need finishing off. > > I'm not sure why the people that volunteer to do translations aren't > finishing it. If the problem that the process is too complicated, or > if there's something else that we can do to make it easier, then > *please* let us know that. > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Skip From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu Aug 24 16:15:09 2006 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:15:09 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] As a donation, I propose to translate this soft in french In-Reply-To: <9bc434e60608240007x15bc4f3fl5a9392df50b4566e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001c01c6c787$b6399fe0$050a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> > OK, is there only the file dialogs.rc in \languages\fr\DIALOGS folder to > modify? I saw some sentences in french and some in english inside... That file looks like it has had significant translation - do you see those existing translations in your existing copy of spambayes? If the only things you think need translating are the english phrases in that file, then yeah, that is all that requires updating . Mark From carrie at onefishtwofish.co.uk Thu Aug 24 16:52:29 2006 From: carrie at onefishtwofish.co.uk (Carrie Bedingfield) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:52:29 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes with Mozilla Thunderbird Message-ID: <44EDBD2D.3000103@onefishtwofish.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060824/da9ed277/attachment.html From phil.f at worldonline.fr Thu Aug 24 19:11:57 2006 From: phil.f at worldonline.fr (Philippe Ferreira) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:11:57 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 Message-ID: <44EDDDDD.3010306@worldonline.fr> Hi the list ! I managed without any problem to install SpamBayes on many Windows workstations. However, on a Windows 2003 Server SP1, the plugin hangs Outlook at startup. I've already seen this problem in the SpamBayes mailing lists, but I've not found any workaround to make it work... I've even tried to install python/pywin/spambayes from scratch, but with no luck... The same problem still appears... Thank you in advance for any hint, Philippe Ferreira, FRANCE. From p.harrison at bedalestreet.com Thu Aug 24 19:09:44 2006 From: p.harrison at bedalestreet.com (Pete@bedales) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:09:44 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] I cannot get to the troubleshooting guide Message-ID: <20060824170943.8569870E4BD@mcr-smtp-001.bulldogdsl.com> I've tried the links to this guide (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/spambayes/spambay es/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html?rev=HEAD) on and off all day and it always times out! Can you help please. Regards Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Ferreira > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:12 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 > > Hi the list ! > > I managed without any problem to install SpamBayes on many > Windows workstations. > > However, on a Windows 2003 Server SP1, the plugin hangs > Outlook at startup. > I've already seen this problem in the SpamBayes mailing > lists, but I've not found any workaround to make it work... > > I've even tried to install python/pywin/spambayes from > scratch, but with no luck... > The same problem still appears... > > Thank you in advance for any hint, > Philippe Ferreira, FRANCE. > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Fri Aug 25 01:17:43 2006 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:17:43 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] I cannot get to the troubleshooting guide In-Reply-To: <20060824170943.8569870E4BD@mcr-smtp-001.bulldogdsl.com> Message-ID: <01e201c6c7d3$8198a7d0$050a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> I cannot get to the troubleshooting guideThe correct URL is now http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outlook2 000/docs/troubleshooting.html?revision=HEAD. Can you let us know where you found the old link? A quick look here shows that all references have been updated to the new URL, but its quite likely I didn't look in the right place. Mark -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Pete at bedales Sent: Friday, 25 August 2006 3:10 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] I cannot get to the troubleshooting guide I've tried the links to this guide (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/spambayes/spambay es/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html?rev=HEAD) on and off all day and it always times out! Can you help please. Regards Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060825/3ba1ef50/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Fri Aug 25 04:08:20 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:08:20 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.1a3 Message-ID: <17646.23444.394006.480373@montanaro.dyndns.org> The SpamBayes team is pleased to announce release 1.1a3 of SpamBayes. As is now usual, this is both a release of the source code and of an installation program for all Microsoft Windows users. This is an *ALPHA* release. It should only be installed by users willing to try out experimental software, and almost certainly contains new bugs. If you don't know what an alpha release is, please stick with 1.0.4 for the moment. The 1.1 release has been worked on since May of 2004, so contains a vast number of improvements over the 1.0.x line. These include, but are not limited to: * New database backends, including ZODB and ZOE. * Internationalisation support, including partial translations into French and Spanish. * Improved statistics reporting. * The ability to set audio notifications with the Outlook plug-in. * The ability to set the Outlook plug-in to move/copy ham, as well as spam/unsures. * Partial POP3 over SSL support for sb_server. * A vastly improved sb_imapfilter. * Several new experimental options, include one designed to help extract text content from image-based spams. Suggestions about what to try out can be found here: http://entrian.com/sbwiki/TryOutThePreRelease This release, like the ill-fated 1.0.2 and 1.0.3, is built with Python 2.4. We believe that the remaining incompatibilities with Python 2.4 have been resolved, and so this release should also include superior email parsing to the 1.0.x line. Details about the changes in this release can be found at http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=442102 You can get the release via the 'Download' page at http://spambayes.org/download.html Enjoy the new release and your spam-free mailbox As always, thanks to everyone involved in this release! Skip Montanaro. (on behalf of the SpamBayes team) --- What is SpamBayes? --- The SpamBayes project is working on developing a Bayesian (of sorts) anti-spam filter (in Python), initially based on the work of Paul Graham, but since modified with ideas from Robinson, Peters, et al. The project includes a number of different applications, all using the same core code, ranging from a plug-in for Microsoft Outlook, to a POP3 proxy, to various command-line tools and a command-line-based framework for testing new anti-spam techniques. The Windows installation program will install either the Outlook add-in (for Microsoft Outlook users), the SpamBayes server program (for all other POP3 mail client users, including Microsoft Outlook Express), or the SpamBayes IMAP filter (for all IMAP mail client users). All Windows users (including existing users of the Outlook add-in) are encouraged to use the installation program. If you wish to use the source-code version, you will also need to install Python - see README.txt in the source tree for more information. From ajkalman at bigpond.net.au Fri Aug 25 07:33:21 2006 From: ajkalman at bigpond.net.au (Alexander Kalman) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:33:21 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Filter 1.0.4 Message-ID: <000601c6c807$fb891870$d64a8890@pc> Dear Sir, I would like to Download SpamBayes 1.0.4 (courtesy of PCUser magazine) in Sydney Australia but I am not with Optusnet but Telstra Bigpond Cable. Can I specify the Optusnet Mirror ? as there is no Telstra or Bigpond mentioned on your download page for Sydney. Thanking you Alex Kalman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060825/01387a36/attachment.htm From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Aug 25 08:06:41 2006 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:06:41 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Filter 1.0.4 In-Reply-To: <000601c6c807$fb891870$d64a8890@pc> References: <000601c6c807$fb891870$d64a8890@pc> Message-ID: <1f7befae0608242306u1d0452c4tfa5bc7061d1d05e2@mail.gmail.com> [Alexander Kalman] > Dear Sir, I would like to Download SpamBayes 1.0.4 (courtesy of PCUser > magazine) in Sydney Australia but I am not with Optusnet but Telstra > Bigpond Cable. > Can I specify the Optusnet Mirror ? as there is no Telstra or Bigpond > mentioned on your download page for Sydney. You can pick any mirror you like. It's courteous to pick a mirror geographically close to you, but any mirror whatsoever should work. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Aug 25 09:30:11 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:30:11 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] As a donation, I propose to translate this soft in french In-Reply-To: <9bc434e60608240007x15bc4f3fl5a9392df50b4566e@mail.gmail.com> References: <9bc434e60608230023tfe72299g6644f9822ab69d06@mail.gmail.com> <17644.34078.279201.5483@montanaro.dyndns.org> <94837198-C87D-4F5F-AD1F-FB1F52D0970B@ihug.co.nz> <9bc434e60608240007x15bc4f3fl5a9392df50b4566e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > OK, is there only the file dialogs.rc in \languages\fr\DIALOGS > folder to modify? I saw some sentences in french and some in > english inside... No, there are four translation tasks. What follows is an abridged version of the instructions in README-DEVEL.txt - it is long, but it tries to explain what to do in enough detail that it can be done by someone who has never done any l18n before. Please ask if you need help, or make suggestions if you can see ways to make these instructions more palatable. Making a translation ==================== Translation is only feasible for 1.1 and above. No translation effort is planned for the 1.0.x series of releases. To translate, you will need: o A suitable version of Python (2.2 or greater) installed. See http://python.org/download o A copy of the SpamBayes source that you wish to translate. o Resourcepackage installed. See http://resourcepackage.sourceforge.net Optional tools that may make translation easier include: o A copy of VC++, Visual Studio, or some other GUI tool that allows editing of VC++ dialog resource files. (Visual Studio Express edition is freely available from Microsoft) o A GUI HTML editor. o A GUI gettext editor, such as poEdit. http://poedit.sourceforge.net Translation Tasks ----------------- There are four translation tasks: o Documentation. This is the least exciting, but the most important. If the documentation is appropriately translated, then even if elements of the interface are not translated, users should be able to manage. A method of managing translated documents has yet to be created. If you are interested in translating documentation, please contact spambayes-dev at python.org. o Outlook dialogs. The majority of the Outlook plug-in interface is handled by a VC++/Visual Studio dialog resource file pair (dialogs.h and dialogs.rc). The plug-in code then manipulates this to create the actual dialog. The easiest method of translating these dialogs is to use a tool like VC++ or Visual Studio. Simply open the 'Outlook2000\dialogs\resources\dialogs.rc' file, translate the dialog, and save the file as 'spambayes\languages\{lang_code}\DIALOGS\dialogs.rc', where {lang_code} is the appropriate language code for the language you have translated into (e.g. 'en_UK', 'es', 'de_DE'). If you do not have a GUI tool to edit the dialogs, simply open the dialogs.rc file in a text editor, manually change the appropriate strings, and save the file as above. Once the dialogs are translated, you need to use the rc2py.py utility to create the i18n_dialogs.py file. For example, in the 'Outlook2000\dialogs\resources' directory: > rc2py.py {base}\spambayes\languages\de_DE\DIALOGS\dialogs.rc {base}\spambayes\languages\de_DE\DIALOGS\i18n_dialogs.py 1 Where {base} is the directory that contains the spambayes package directory. This should create a 'i18n_dialogs.py' in the same directory as your translated dialogs.rc file - this is the file the the Outlook plug-in uses. [It has been a long time, but I believe most of the French translation of dialogs.rc is done]. o Web interface template file. The majority of the web interface is created by dynamic use of a HTML template file. The easiest method of translating this file is to use a GUI HTML editor. Simply open the 'spambayes/resources/ui.html' file, translate it as described within, and save the file as 'spambayes/languages/{lang_code}/i18n.ui.html', where {lang_code} is the appropriate language code as described above. If you do not have a GUI HTML editor, or are happy editing HTML by hand, simply use your favorite HTML editor to do this task. Once the template file is created, resourcepackage will automatically create the required ui_html.py file when SpamBayes is run with that language selected. o Gettext managed strings. The remainder of both the Outlook plug-in and the web interface are contained within the various Python files that make up SpamBayes. The Python gettext module (very similar to the GNU gettext system) is used to manage translation of these strings. To translate these strings, use the translation template 'spambayes/languages/messages.pot'. You can regenerate that file, if necessary, by running this command in the spambayes package directory: > {python dir}\tools\i18n\pygettext.py -o languages\messages.pot ..\contrib\*.py ..\Outlook2000\*.py ..\scripts\*.py *.py ..\testtools\*.py ..\utilities\*.py ..\windows\*.py You may wish to use a GUI system to create the required *.po file, such as poEdit, but you can also do this manually with a text editor. If your utility does not do it for you, you will also need to compile the .po file to a .mo file. The utility msgfmt.py will do this for you - it should be located '{python dir}\tools\i18n'. Testing the translation ----------------------- There are two ways to set the language that SpamBayes will use: o If you are using Windows, change the preferred Windows language using the Control Panel. o Set the '[globals] language' SpamBayes option to a list of the preferred language(s). =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Aug 25 09:35:08 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:35:08 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder In-Reply-To: <9587E8387214534AAAC617A96B42F7563BAD3A@WIN2KSERVER.schr.org> References: <9587E8387214534AAAC617A96B42F7563BAD3A@WIN2KSERVER.schr.org> Message-ID: <23EABE73-69C0-496A-8F7E-02B48B95E5D1@ihug.co.nz> > I will click on the item, select ?delete as spam,? and the program > acts like it?s working correctly (takes a couple of seconds to > ?think?) and then stops. It doesn?t move the item. Then, when I > click on the item again and select ?delete as spam? it gives me a > message saying ?No filterable mail items are selected.? After the > second click, it moves it to the junk mail folder. [...] > Log files attached The logs seem to indicate that Outlook is unable to find the message for SpamBayes. Have you tried running the Inbox Repair Tool (scanpst) over the pst files? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Aug 25 09:36:45 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:36:45 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes with Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <44EDBD2D.3000103@onefishtwofish.co.uk> References: <44EDBD2D.3000103@onefishtwofish.co.uk> Message-ID: > Can anyone tell me how to set up SpamBayes on Mozilla Thunderbird. The FAQ has step-by-step instructions for setting up SpamBayes with Outlook Express. For the most part, these are identical to the steps required for Thunderbird, so you could try those. > I have downloaded the 'non Outlook' version and set up according to > instructions as follows. But when I try to review messages, I get > "There are no untrained messages to display." [...] > Remote servers: pop.1and1.co.uk > SpamBayes Ports: 110 [...] Have you set Thunderbird to connect to "localhost" rather than directly to pop.1and1.co.uk? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Aug 25 09:38:26 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:38:26 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam bayes in French ? In-Reply-To: <8F6D298DE375D9119B16000BDB9252BC01D6BCF6@msg14pp.ppol.mi> References: <8F6D298DE375D9119B16000BDB9252BC01D6BCF6@msg14pp.ppol.mi> Message-ID: > a French version she(it) is foreseen. There is a partial translation of the interface into French in all of the alpha versions of 1.1. If you are willing to try alpha (i.e. pre- release) software, we would be happy to receive reports about the quality of the translation, and any suggestions for improvement. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Aug 25 09:45:59 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:45:59 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Several Outlook clients using same Spam Database In-Reply-To: <358742D9BB023040AEDFFD54381F3A4E2567D3@PC254> References: <358742D9BB023040AEDFFD54381F3A4E2567D3@PC254> Message-ID: <6C64FD7E-4151-4C69-A856-FAF226996AED@ihug.co.nz> > I've configured two PCs (a notebook and a desktop) with Outlook and > SpamBayes to use the same database folder, which is on the desktop > PC which > is always present and switched on. > - Should this configuration work properly? If only one copy of Outlook is open at a time, then yes. Otherwise no. > - Can I open Outlook on either PC, and use the same database? Yes, if you only open one copy of Outlook at a time. > - Can I do Delete As Spam or Recover From Spam with incremental > training, > and update the database from either PC? Yes, if you only open one copy of Outlook at a time. > - Can I run both copies of Outlook at the same time? No. > What happens when both > copies try to read from or write to the database at the same time? > Are there > file or record locking problems? You will almost certainly end up with a corrupted database. However, all of this applies to using the default 1.0.x database format (bsddb). There are alternatives: * There are experimental MySQL and PostgreSQL database backends, which should have no problem with concurrent access. However, (a) you would require an SQL server, and (b) I don't think these have been tested with the Outlook plug-in. * You could switch to "pickle". Basically, this keeps the entire database in memory, and writes it to disk as necessary. While the memory cost is higher than bsddb, you should also get faster (assuming there is enough memory) read access to the database. Since the entire database is dumped to disk at once, there shouldn't be the concurrent issues. However, this won't work perfectly: the only changes that will be persisted will be from whichever system stores the database last - whatever changes are made on the other system will be lost once it is restarted. * If the messages are also in a shared location (Exchange or IMAP server), then if you didn't use the Spam/Not Spam buttons but just moved the messages, then one computer could do all the classification and training. * You can use ZEO with 1.1a2 (or 1.1a3 if you run from source). Like the SQL options, this requires setting up a (ZEO) server, but unlike the SQL options, this has been tested (although not extensively). Alternatively, you could keep the databases separate, and consolidate them periodically (e.g. daily). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From phil.f at worldonline.fr Fri Aug 25 09:52:54 2006 From: phil.f at worldonline.fr (=?iso-8859-1?Q?phil.f@worldonline.fr?=) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:52:54 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?_RE=3A__SpamBayes_1=2E0=2E4_on_Windows?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_2003_Server_SP1?= Message-ID: > Make sure you have DEP turned off. In Dell systems it's in the BIOS, but > YMMV. > > Bob Hi Bob, Do you mean the "Data Execution Prevention" setting under Windows 2003 (System / Performances / ...) ? Or, really in the server BIOS ? Tanks a lot ! Philippe Ferreira. --------------------- ALICE SECURITE ENFANTS --------------------- Prot?gez vos enfants des dangers d'Internet en installant S?curit? Enfants, le contr?le parental d'Alice. http://www.aliceadsl.fr/securitepc/default_copa.asp From rowan at sylvester-bradley.org Fri Aug 25 10:16:44 2006 From: rowan at sylvester-bradley.org (Rowan) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] users should share database In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15601@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <000c01c5b3b9$afda7b20$0100000a@ZOPPOTH.local> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15601@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <5979322.post@talk.nabble.com> Jesse Pelton wrote: > > As far as I know, SpamBayes does no contention management (locking) on > its databases. As a result, there's no robust way to share a database > among multiple processes I have a slightly different reason for wanting to share a single database. I want to set up Outlook on my desktop PC and on my notebook both with SpamBayes. I would like to have the database on the desktop PC which is always connected to the network and switched on. When I plug in the notebook I would like to be able to access my Outlook mail and have it filtered by SpamBayes. I would like to be able to use the same database for both, so I'm always using the latest one, and whichever PC I use to read my mail any incremental training that takes place goes into the master database. I'm guessing that so long as I ensure that I only have Outlook open on one PC at a time, this will work fine. But this is a nuisance. I would really like to be able to have Outlook open on both at once. If there's no file or record locking, this seems fraught with risks. Does anyone have any more details on what if any locking SpamBayes does? If none, could this be added? Many thanks - Rowan -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/users-should-share-database-tf286554.html#a5979322 Sent from the Python - spambayes forum at Nabble.com. From rowan at sylvester-bradley.org Fri Aug 25 10:22:39 2006 From: rowan at sylvester-bradley.org (Rowan) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Sharing database among multiple IMAP clients? In-Reply-To: <1DEC044B53741C408686EEBD20924A6104A64150@p01exm02.macromedia.com> References: <1DEC044B53741C408686EEBD20924A6104A64150@p01exm02.macromedia.com> Message-ID: <5979398.post@talk.nabble.com> Deneb Meketa wrote: > > My question is: how can I (and should I, even) share the training data > between the two locations? Ideally I'd like to maintain just one > database, since this will all be a single set of mail; otherwise I'd > have to repeat the same training at home and at work. > What did you eventually do? I have a very similar problem and I'd be interested to hear what worked for you. Rowan -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Sharing-database-among-multiple-IMAP-clients--tf701141.html#a5979398 Sent from the Python - spambayes forum at Nabble.com. From jsp at PKC.com Fri Aug 25 13:46:26 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 07:46:26 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder In-Reply-To: <9587E8387214534AAAC617A96B42F7563BAD3A@WIN2KSERVER.schr.org> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D049B1@PKCVT01.pkc.com> There's a tracker for this. Please see http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=899839&group_id =61702&atid=498103. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Shelby Smith Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:01 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder Hi There, I'm having a problem with Spambayes in Outlook when I go to classify something as spam. I will click on the item, select "delete as spam," and the program acts like it's working correctly (takes a couple of seconds to "think") and then stops. It doesn't move the item. Then, when I click on the item again and select "delete as spam" it gives me a message saying "No filterable mail items are selected." After the second click, it moves it to the junk mail folder. This only started happening after I had uninstalled and then reinstalled the program. I had uninstalled it b/c it was causing my Outlook to go really slow. Now it is not slow anymore, but it does have the strange problem I've described above. Here's the info on my computer: Windows XP Pro Spambayes 1.0.4 Log files attached Please let me know if there is a way to fix this. Thanks, Shelby Smith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, (a) > you would require an SQL server, and (b) I don't think these have > been tested with the Outlook plug-in. > I can install MySQL - I've already done this on another server. Can anyone confirm whether or not this has ever been tried with the Outlook plugin? If not, how likely is this to work? Where do I find the necessary code and information to allow me to try this? Tony Meyer-2 wrote: > > * You could switch to "pickle" ... However, this won't work perfectly: > the only > changes that will be persisted will be from whichever system stores > the database last - whatever changes are made on the other system > will be lost once it is restarted. > This sounds a fairly serious limitation. I'd prefer to avoid this if at all possible. Tony Meyer-2 wrote: > > * If the messages are also in a shared location (Exchange or IMAP > server), then if you didn't use the Spam/Not Spam buttons but just > moved the messages, then one computer could do all the classification > and training. > Not quite sure what you mean. The messages are in a shared location (on an Exchange server), but surely if I just move the messages to the spam folder by dragging them in Outlook, I won't get any incremental training. And isn't this a fundamental requirement if I'm to get good spam filtering? Maybe you mean I would just retrain the system from scratch now and then, using the whole of the Inbox and Spam folders. I suppose this would be possible, but it's a nuisance since it takes an hour or more, and it seems to be missing out on one of the main features of SpamBayes. Tony Meyer-2 wrote: > > * You can use ZEO with 1.1a2 (or 1.1a3 if you run from source). > Like the SQL options, this requires setting up a (ZEO) server, but > unlike the SQL options, this has been tested (although not extensively). > Not quite sure what ZEO is - is this another database, or something different? My first inclination is to try to make it work with MySQL. Tony Meyer-2 wrote: > > Alternatively, you could keep the databases separate, and consolidate > them periodically (e.g. daily). > How would I do this consolidation? Many thanks for your help - Rowan -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Several-Outlook-clients-using-same-Spam-Database-tf2150954.html#a5982096 Sent from the Python - spambayes forum at Nabble.com. From scalemaster34 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 25 16:51:48 2006 From: scalemaster34 at hotmail.com (Scalemaster34) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:51:48 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] "Delete as Spam" not working on HTTP Email Accounts Message-ID: I'm using the Outlook Addin version 1.1a2 of SpamBayes with Outlook 2003. The "SPAM" or "Delete as Spam" button does not seem to do anything when I'm viewing messages in any of my HTTP Email accounts (HOTMAIL.COM or MSN.COM) folders. SpamBayes is filtering these folders, but I can't manually delete any missed messages as spam. The "SPAM" button does work with any messages in my regular POP/SMTP account folders. I have tried resetting or deleting the toolbar and allowing it to reinstall, with no luck. And the "Delete as Spam" button worked on the HTTP Account Folders when I had the older version (SpamBayes 1.0.4) installed. Attached is my log file. Keith -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/427 - Release Date: 8/24/2006 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 24238 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060825/b2cedb16/attachment.obj From phil.f at worldonline.fr Fri Aug 25 18:10:30 2006 From: phil.f at worldonline.fr (Philippe Ferreira) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:10:30 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50076382BA@SPIKE.city> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50076382BA@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: <44EF20F6.7060707@worldonline.fr> Coe, Bob a ?crit : >Make sure you have DEP turned off. In Dell systems it's in the BIOS, but >YMMV. > >Bob > > > Hi Bob, Good news ! The problem was the DEP setting under Windows. It was activated for all the programs. I just had to set the default (windows components only), and SpamBayes was up after a reboot ! Thank you a lot !! Philippe Ferreira. From skip at pobox.com Fri Aug 25 18:20:41 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:20:41 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 In-Reply-To: <44EF20F6.7060707@worldonline.fr> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50076382BA@SPIKE.city> <44EF20F6.7060707@worldonline.fr> Message-ID: <17647.9049.593502.797128@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> Make sure you have DEP turned off. In Dell systems it's in the BIOS, >> but YMMV. Philippe> Good news ! The problem was the DEP setting under Windows. Philippe> It was activated for all the programs. I just had to set the Philippe> default (windows components only), and SpamBayes was up after Philippe> a reboot ! Is this something that belongs in the FAQ? I (thankfully, I think) don't even know what a DEP is or why it would be in my BIOS (which I also pretty much ignore). Skip From ssmith at schr.org Fri Aug 25 18:27:57 2006 From: ssmith at schr.org (Shelby Smith) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:27:57 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder Message-ID: <9587E8387214534AAAC617A96B42F7563BAD51@WIN2KSERVER.schr.org> There is no resolution in this tracker... ________________________________ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 7:46 AM To: Shelby Smith; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder There's a tracker for this. Please see http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=899839&group_id =61702&atid=498103. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Shelby Smith Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:01 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder Hi There, I'm having a problem with Spambayes in Outlook when I go to classify something as spam. I will click on the item, select "delete as spam," and the program acts like it's working correctly (takes a couple of seconds to "think") and then stops. It doesn't move the item. Then, when I click on the item again and select "delete as spam" it gives me a message saying "No filterable mail items are selected." After the second click, it moves it to the junk mail folder. This only started happening after I had uninstalled and then reinstalled the program. I had uninstalled it b/c it was causing my Outlook to go really slow. Now it is not slow anymore, but it does have the strange problem I've described above. Here's the info on my computer: Windows XP Pro Spambayes 1.0.4 Log files attached Please let me know if there is a way to fix this. Thanks, Shelby Smith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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After the > second click, it moves it to the junk mail folder. [...] > Log files attached The logs seem to indicate that Outlook is unable to find the message for SpamBayes. Have you tried running the Inbox Repair Tool (scanpst) over the pst files? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From bullen.mark at gmail.com Fri Aug 25 18:38:14 2006 From: bullen.mark at gmail.com (Mark Bullen) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:38:14 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] maildir.py Message-ID: <330df3b00608250938r1aab6fc5sa846caf084f59b57@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I'm trying to download maildir.py from http://woozle.org/~neale/src/python/ but it seems the site is no longer online. Will it be possible to send me a copy? Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060825/e2ceb69c/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Fri Aug 25 18:38:54 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:38:54 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder In-Reply-To: <9587E8387214534AAAC617A96B42F7563BAD51@WIN2KSERVER.schr.org> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D049B5@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I don't think anyone has been able to come up with a single procedure that resolves the problem in all cases, and there's reason to doubt that this is a SpamBayes problem. However, the tracker lists several things that people have tried that seemed to help, so I thought you might find it useful. If I recall correctly, when I was affected by this problem, I just re-selected the current folder whenever the problem occurred and this caused Outlook to refresh the list of messages. I haven't seen this problem for some time, though, so my recollection may be flawed. ________________________________ From: Shelby Smith [mailto:ssmith at schr.org] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:28 PM To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder There is no resolution in this tracker... ________________________________ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 7:46 AM To: Shelby Smith; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder There's a tracker for this. Please see http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=899839&group_id =61702&atid=498103. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Shelby Smith Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:01 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Problems moving spam into Junk mail folder Hi There, I'm having a problem with Spambayes in Outlook when I go to classify something as spam. I will click on the item, select "delete as spam," and the program acts like it's working correctly (takes a couple of seconds to "think") and then stops. It doesn't move the item. Then, when I click on the item again and select "delete as spam" it gives me a message saying "No filterable mail items are selected." After the second click, it moves it to the junk mail folder. This only started happening after I had uninstalled and then reinstalled the program. I had uninstalled it b/c it was causing my Outlook to go really slow. Now it is not slow anymore, but it does have the strange problem I've described above. Here's the info on my computer: Windows XP Pro Spambayes 1.0.4 Log files attached Please let me know if there is a way to fix this. Thanks, Shelby Smith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060825/37fb54c8/attachment.htm From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Fri Aug 25 18:42:28 2006 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:42:28 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5007638326@SPIKE.city> > From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:21 PM > To: Philippe Ferreira > Cc: Coe, Bob; spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 > > > >> Make sure you have DEP turned off. In Dell systems > it's in the BIOS, > >> but YMMV. > > Philippe> Good news ! The problem was the DEP setting > under Windows. > > Philippe> It was activated for all the programs. I just > had to set the > Philippe> default (windows components only), and > SpamBayes was up after > Philippe> a reboot ! > > Is this something that belongs in the FAQ? I'd say yes. Lots of people (including me) have found it to cause crashes in Spambayes ever since manufacturers started including the setting and Microsoft started using it. What I was told is that the underlying problem is in Python, not in Spambayes itself. > I (thankfully, I think) don't even know what a DEP is or > why it would be in my BIOS (which I also pretty much ignore). Well, now that they're starting to sneak in "features" like DEP and hyperthreading, it's getting more dangerous to ignore the BIOS. > Skip > From skip at pobox.com Fri Aug 25 18:57:25 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:57:25 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5007638326@SPIKE.city> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5007638326@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: <17647.11253.498318.203306@montanaro.dyndns.org> Bob> Well, now that they're starting to sneak in "features" like DEP and Bob> hyperthreading, it's getting more dangerous to ignore the BIOS. Maybe so, once I upgrade from my Powerbook. ;-) Skip From skip at pobox.com Fri Aug 25 18:59:57 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:59:57 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] maildir.py In-Reply-To: <330df3b00608250938r1aab6fc5sa846caf084f59b57@mail.gmail.com> References: <330df3b00608250938r1aab6fc5sa846caf084f59b57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17647.11405.751774.863779@montanaro.dyndns.org> Mark> Hi! I'm trying to download maildir.py from Mark> http://woozle.org/~neale/src/python/ but it seems the site is no Mark> longer online. Will it be possible to send me a copy? I don't have a copy, but the Wayback Machine might: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://woozle.org/~neale/src/python/ Skip From bullen.mark at gmail.com Fri Aug 25 19:27:23 2006 From: bullen.mark at gmail.com (Mark Bullen) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:27:23 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] maildir.py In-Reply-To: <17647.11405.751774.863779@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <330df3b00608250938r1aab6fc5sa846caf084f59b57@mail.gmail.com> <17647.11405.751774.863779@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <330df3b00608251027o47f690dbn6d35904147a772fb@mail.gmail.com> Got it! Thanks! On 8/25/06, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > > Mark> Hi! I'm trying to download maildir.py from > Mark> http://woozle.org/~neale/src/python/ but it seems the site is no > Mark> longer online. Will it be possible to send me a copy? > > I don't have a copy, but the Wayback Machine might: > > http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://woozle.org/~neale/src/python/ > > Skip > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060825/a4e57643/attachment.htm From dhaval at patel.sh Fri Aug 25 19:52:15 2006 From: dhaval at patel.sh (Dhaval Patel) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:52:15 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] default db Message-ID: I know that the whole point of spambayes is so that everybody can train their db based on what they think is ham or spam. This is great. But hear me out. While I was trying to figure out the best way to setup training for all of my users I started thinking about this. I ended up creating a shared db for all of my users. I will update that db based on my spam (since I get the most) and if they have any complaints, I will train the db with their inbox or spam folder when needed. This is working out quite well, we are getting most of our spam in our spam folder. But I got to thinking about spam filtering in gmail. They have a fairly good spam filtering system (I dont know if they use spambayes or not). They already have a system that is generic. Wouldn't it be possible to create a generic db that a normal person can use to block most of his spam? We have to agree that no spam filter will be 100% accurate. Because of that, I think a generic db would be a good idea. Does anybody on this list think that this is a good idea? Should we have a db somewhere that people can download and use and we can update it once in a while based on new spam thats being sent around? Thanks, Dhaval From phil.f at worldonline.fr Fri Aug 25 21:05:27 2006 From: phil.f at worldonline.fr (Philippe Ferreira) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:05:27 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 In-Reply-To: <17647.9049.593502.797128@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50076382BA@SPIKE.city> <44EF20F6.7060707@worldonline.fr> <17647.9049.593502.797128@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <44EF49F7.9090905@worldonline.fr> >Is this something that belongs in the FAQ? I (thankfully, I think) don't >even know what a DEP is or why it would be in my BIOS (which I also pretty >much ignore). > > > Hi, "DEP" stands for "Data Execution Prevention". It's a mechanism that prevent programs to use areas of memory reserved for the OS. The goal is to increase security against malwares. It is handled by the OS (WinXP SP2, and Win2003 Server SP1), and on some systems, it is also supported by the hardware (on servers...), to get better protection. In my case, I just had to change the parameter in Windows. It would be great, for other users, to mention this workaround it in the SpamBayes FAQ ! Philippe. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Aug 25 22:44:01 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:44:01 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 on Windows 2003 Server SP1 In-Reply-To: <17647.9049.593502.797128@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50076382BA@SPIKE.city> <44EF20F6.7060707@worldonline.fr> <17647.9049.593502.797128@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <55AEDAAF-3E18-4E05-BFC9-34FC98A81497@ihug.co.nz> > Philippe> Good news ! The problem was the DEP setting under > Windows. > > Philippe> It was activated for all the programs. I just had to > set the > Philippe> default (windows components only), and SpamBayes was > up after > Philippe> a reboot ! > > Is this something that belongs in the FAQ? I (thankfully, I think) > don't > even know what a DEP is or why it would be in my BIOS (which I also > pretty > much ignore). It's been in the FAQ for 18 months: http://spambayes.org/faq.html#after-installing-spambayes-outlook- crashes-and-then-asks-for-the-plug-in-to-be-disabled If anyone who has come across the problem wasn't to submit a patch that they think might mean that people see it in the FAQ (are people even looking, though?), then that would be welcome. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Aug 25 22:56:51 2006 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:56:51 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Several Outlook clients using same Spam Database In-Reply-To: <5982096.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <358742D9BB023040AEDFFD54381F3A4E2567D3@PC254> <6C64FD7E-4151-4C69-A856-FAF226996AED@ihug.co.nz> <5982096.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: >> * There are experimental MySQL and PostgreSQL database backends, >> which should have no problem with concurrent access. However, (a) >> you would require an SQL server, and (b) I don't think these have >> been tested with the Outlook plug-in. > > I can install MySQL - I've already done this on another server. Can > anyone > confirm whether or not this has ever been tried with the Outlook > plugin? If > not, how likely is this to work? Somewhat likely. > Where do I find the necessary code and > information to allow me to try this? Make sure you're using 1.1 (a1, a2, or a3 - it shouldn't matter). Open the bayescustomize.ini file in your data directory (the Advanced tab of the Manager dialog can open that for you). Add something like this to the file: persistent_use_database:mysql persistent_storage_file:host=myserver user=myusername pass=mypassword dbname=databasename The database should already exist, but SpamBayes will create the needed table when it's first used. >> * If the messages are also in a shared location (Exchange or IMAP >> server), then if you didn't use the Spam/Not Spam buttons but just >> moved the messages, then one computer could do all the classification >> and training. > > Not quite sure what you mean. The messages are in a shared location > (on an > Exchange server), but surely if I just move the messages to the > spam folder > by dragging them in Outlook, I won't get any incremental training. By default, training when messages are moved is turned on (see the Training tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog). This (only run SpamBayes on one machine) would be, by far, the simplest solution, and should work without problem. >> * You can use ZEO with 1.1a2 (or 1.1a3 if you run from source). >> Like the SQL options, this requires setting up a (ZEO) server, but >> unlike the SQL options, this has been tested (although not >> extensively). > > Not quite sure what ZEO is - is this another database, or something > different? My first inclination is to try to make it work with MySQL. ZEO allows multiple processes, machines, and locations to work together as one transactional object system. It basically allows shared access to a database (typically ZODB). It's developed by Zope Corp. >> Alternatively, you could keep the databases separate, and consolidate >> them periodically (e.g. daily). > > How would I do this consolidation? The simplest way would be to use sb_dbexpimp.py (there isn't a binary version of this, but you'd just need Python & the SpamBayes source). For example (from the documentation): Create a new DBM database (newbayes.db) from two DBM databases (abayes.db, bbayes.db) sb_dbexpimp -e -d abayes.db -f abayes.export sb_dbexpimp -e -d bbayes.db -f bbayes.export sb_dbexpimp -i -d newbayes.db -f abayes.export sb_dbexpimp -i -m -d newbayes.db -f bbayes.export =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From BRVALENZ at UP.COM Sat Aug 26 01:24:48 2006 From: BRVALENZ at UP.COM (BRVALENZ at UP.COM) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:24:48 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Please insert disk labeled "Visual Basic for Applications". Message-ID: From skip at pobox.com Sat Aug 26 02:07:43 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:07:43 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Several Outlook clients using same Spam Database In-Reply-To: References: <358742D9BB023040AEDFFD54381F3A4E2567D3@PC254> <6C64FD7E-4151-4C69-A856-FAF226996AED@ihug.co.nz> <5982096.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <17647.37071.677467.551665@montanaro.dyndns.org> >>> * There are experimental MySQL and PostgreSQL database backends, >>> which should have no problem with concurrent access. However, (a) >>> you would require an SQL server, and (b) I don't think these have >>> been tested with the Outlook plug-in. >> >> I can install MySQL - I've already done this on another server. Can >> anyone confirm whether or not this has ever been tried with the >> Outlook plugin? If not, how likely is this to work? Tony> Somewhat likely. Sorry to veer away from the *SQL options, but wouldn't ZEO do the trick? Skip From bierstedt at comcast.net Sat Aug 26 02:56:25 2006 From: bierstedt at comcast.net (Bob Bierstedt) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:56:25 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] help i lost spambayes and cannot get it back Message-ID: <000001c6c8aa$75173ad0$640fa8c0@bobtaormino> a couple of weeks ago my email stopped getting filtered, I tried a lot of things but finally decided to uninstall and reinstall spambayes. I cannot get the spambayes icons back on the outlook toolbar. i have deleted and reinstalled numerous times and everything looks ok as it is installing, but the icons are gone. any suggestions thanks Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060825/71784554/attachment.html From mlusi at teamrmsi.com Sat Aug 26 04:13:01 2006 From: mlusi at teamrmsi.com (Mary Lusi) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:13:01 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] my SPAM folder deleted??? 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Hi, Before asking the question to the mailing list, I searched through the FAQ and the web with terms like "Windows 2003 SP1", because the problem only appeared to me with this system. I think it could be a good idea to explicitly mention this in the FAQ... It's just my opinion. Philippe. From jsp at PKC.com Mon Aug 28 13:30:51 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:30:51 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] my SPAM folder deleted??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D049B9@PKCVT01.pkc.com> http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder may help. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lusi Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:13 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] my SPAM folder deleted??? My SPAM folder has been deleted. I still have "Spam Unsure" which is catching a few but most of the Spam is staying in my inbox. How do I restore the folder to its previous wonderful self? :-) Mary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060828/cb9720e4/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Mon Aug 28 14:19:06 2006 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:19:06 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] help i lost spambayes and cannot get it back In-Reply-To: <000001c6c8aa$75173ad0$640fa8c0@bobtaormino> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D049BA@PKCVT01.pkc.com> There are a couple of items in the FAQ that may be useful: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#the-recover-from-spam-button-n o-longer-appears http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#i-get-a-message-that-says-i-ne ed-to-enable-spambayes-or-the-enable-button-is-greyed-out There's also a troubleshooting guide for the Outlook plugin. It's available from the SpamBayes button, but I gather that isn't displaying. You can read it online at http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outl ook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Bob Bierstedt Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 8:56 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] help i lost spambayes and cannot get it back a couple of weeks ago my email stopped getting filtered, I tried a lot of things but finally decided to uninstall and reinstall spambayes. I cannot get the spambayes icons back on the outlook toolbar. i have deleted and reinstalled numerous times and everything looks ok as it is installing, but the icons are gone. any suggestions thanks Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060828/d905da32/attachment.html From mcharlton at clear.net.nz Tue Aug 29 00:44:15 2006 From: mcharlton at clear.net.nz (M Charlton) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:44:15 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] spam bayes wizard Message-ID: <000801c6caf3$7e419a10$606765da@CPQ10911872618> Hi I can not get the wizard to start when i open outlook express so I can click I havent prepared for spambayes at all thanks Margaret -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060829/ad1a995a/attachment.htm From jjdpscm at ywcaofdarwin.org.au Tue Aug 29 07:56:40 2006 From: jjdpscm at ywcaofdarwin.org.au (Clare) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:26:40 +0930 Subject: [Spambayes] How do i move msg out of suspected spam? 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060829/2a4e222c/attachment.html From peterjames at bigblue.net.au Tue Aug 29 08:09:37 2006 From: peterjames at bigblue.net.au (Peter James) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:09:37 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuring Message-ID: <000601c6cb31$b638ce50$0201a8c0@NEWCOMPUTER> I have installed Spambayes 1.04 (proxy version) from the .exe download. The icon sits on the task bar and start menu, but I cannot get onto the configuration page.. The program is trying to connect to the localhost but always fails. I have tried entering the address directly into the address bar of IE and also Mozilla, but no success. I have reinstalled several times. I have also tried changing the incoming mail setting in OE to localhost first, but this has made no difference. Nor has having OE loaded or not made any diference. I feel that there is a problem with my installation, even though there were no problems in the process. I am runnung XP Pro SP2 with latest updates. I have trawled through all the FAQs and troubleshooting pages but could find nothing to help with getting onto the configuration interface. This program had a great write up in PC User and I am keen to get it going Many thanks, Peter James -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060829/83c37269/attachment.htm From enxos at libero.it Tue Aug 29 10:29:46 2006 From: enxos at libero.it (Enzo) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:29:46 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi to all!! Message-ID: Hi, I appreciate very much SB!! I want ask you if there is the possibility to use the otions "leave a msg to the server" in Outlook Express!!! Thanks. ___________________________________________________________________ Salva ora il tuo preventivo gratuito Direct Line e assicurati lo sconto extra 5+5% sulla polizza auto! http://click.libero.it/directline2 From Johan.Goedermans at swisscom.com Tue Aug 29 10:47:34 2006 From: Johan.Goedermans at swisscom.com (Johan.Goedermans at swisscom.com) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:47:34 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Proposal Message-ID: <66E5F10A1F335244A395ED08DCDAC54003DFD2DC@sxmbx53.corproot.net> Hello SpamBayes Developer Here is my proposal: SpamBayes is filtering so good, that all mails in the Junk-Archiv are 100% Spam. Therefore I would prefer an extra entry "Delete Permanently" in the Pull-Down menu. Now, I can only choose "Untouched", "Moved" and "Copied". If I could choose "Delete Permanently", then I could work more efficiently, because I could save my time which I now have to spend on deleting regularly the spam mails in the Junk-Archiv. Best regards, Jo Jo Goedermans Ziegeleistrasse 24 CH-3612 Steffisburg Tel: 031 342 56 45 _______________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060829/a5db4561/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 29174 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060829/a5db4561/attachment.jpe From skip at pobox.com Tue Aug 29 21:10:15 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:10:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Proposal In-Reply-To: <66E5F10A1F335244A395ED08DCDAC54003DFD2DC@sxmbx53.corproot.net> References: <66E5F10A1F335244A395ED08DCDAC54003DFD2DC@sxmbx53.corproot.net> Message-ID: <17652.37143.815889.2093@montanaro.dyndns.org> Johan> SpamBayes is filtering so good, that all mails in the Junk-Archiv Johan> are 100% Spam. Therefore I would prefer an extra entry "Delete Johan> Permanently" in the Pull-Down menu. Now, I can only choose Johan> "Untouched", "Moved" and "Copied". If I could choose "Delete Johan> Permanently", then I could work more efficiently, because I could Johan> save my time which I now have to spend on deleting regularly the Johan> spam mails in the Junk-Archiv. That's attractive in theory, however you will always have some false positives (good messages which are erroneously marked as spam). maybe you haven't seen such cases yet, but you will eventually. By automatically deleting spam mail, you lose the chance to scan your junk archive for such messages. One thing some people implement (myself included) is an extra spam threshold. Above that higher threshold, the messages either go into a "high spam" mailbox or are deleted. Messages that score between the low and high spam thresholds go in the regular spam mailbox. That two-threshold functionality isn't in the Outlook plugin, the POP3 proxy or the IMAP filter as far as I know. Skip From Michael at InteractiveCoursewareEngineering.com Tue Aug 29 21:45:12 2006 From: Michael at InteractiveCoursewareEngineering.com (Me) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:45:12 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Request Message-ID: <004001c6cba3$a4baef60$6601a8c0@EWLOYL3> How about allowing spam to be placed in a sub-directory of the Deleted Items directory? Thanks, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20060829/944a6e2b/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In that case (I'm not an Outlook user, so take this with a grain of salt), couldn't you just create a dummy mail folder in the directory containing one message that you never delete? Skip From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Aug 30 22:28:30 2006 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:28:30 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Request Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5007638639@SPIKE.city> Yeah, probably. But you'd have to avoid using the "Empty Deleted Items Folder" button or taking advantage of any default behavior that automatically flushes your deleted messages. To me, the effect would be to trade a minor nuisance for a major one. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:07 AM > To: Coe, Bob > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Request > > > Bob> You'd have to keep re-creating the subdirectory, > wouldn't you? The > Bob> operation of emptying a Deleted Items folder > normally kills off all > Bob> subdirectories. > > In that case (I'm not an Outlook user, so take this with a > grain of salt), couldn't you just create a dummy mail folder > in the directory containing one message that you never delete? > > Skip >
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