From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 1 02:16:06 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:16:06 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] mail going into Outer Space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > (I guess your program doesn't work with outlook express.) It does. See FAQ 2.1: > anyway now when I start my E-Mail program my mail starts > coming up in my inbox and as soon it comes up it disappears > like it is going in another file or some where. Please see FAQ 3.12: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 1 02:19:03 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:19:03 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Understanding how things work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [...] > All the spam that was deleted from my account by spambayes on > outlook was still visable and accessable on the comcast.net site. > Why was it not deleted? Are you using the "leave mail on server" option of Outlook? If so, see this bug report: [ 773364 ] "Delete From Server" doesn't work on filtered mail =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 1 05:35:56 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:35:56 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems I cannot fix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When I boot my computer I get a message that reads there seems > to be a conflict in your spam bays configuration Spam Bay manager > and when I try to run the spam manager nothing seems to make a > difference. What can I do or what happened? Please send us a copy of your most recent log file. SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 1 05:37:33 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:37:33 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Filtering Without Action In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From SpamBayes tool bar, Filter messages action is chosen, > perform all filter actions, Start Filtering, resulting in > found x spam, y good, but messages stay in In Box and none > are moved to Spam no matter what is clicked on. [...log snipped...] This log doesn't have any record of any filtering. Can you try this again (to generate the entries) and then send us the most recent log? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 1 05:42:05 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:42:05 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook Plugin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Is there any way to automate the installation of the Outlook > plugin? Yes. AFIAK it's not as sophisticated as an .msi, but Inno Setup installers (like SpamBayes) allow various command-line options to be passed to do (e.g.) quiet installs. See for details. > We would like to have the installation standardized so that > it uses specific folders for training and messages, and to have > it automatically train and enable without user intervention. > Is there any way to do all or some of this through switches or > any type of pre-installation processes? What you're talking about here is configuration, not installation, though. There's no way I know of to automate this process. Some of it (selecting particular folders to watch and the unsure/spam folders, based on the name, I presume) would be easy enough to do if you find someone who knows Python. For training, we highly recommend using train-on-error, so people should just be using the "Delete as spam" and "Recover from spam" buttons. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From bob at 1776.com Thu Sep 1 13:58:13 2005 From: bob at 1776.com (Robert K. Coe) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 07:58:13 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: configure spambaye In-Reply-To: <67FC629EA546D611B43D00B0D0F0D43B01732565@chicago> Message-ID: <000001c5aeec$764c6480$830819ac@CambridgeMA.GOV> I hope this doesn't come as too much of a shock, but the "company" to which you addressed the message below is a mailing list! Worse, it's a mailing list whose hundreds of members couldn't care less that you consider your messages' contents to be "confidential". If your original message was sent to that same address, it's not surprising that it showed up on Google. This one will too, I'll bet. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Kristal Kaiser Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:17 PM To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] FW: configure spambaye SHL Logo I have a question. An email i sent to your company back in may comes up when you do a simple search in google for my name. the email also contains that the transmission and any files transmitted with it are confidential so how can this be on google and how does your company go about removing this information off the internet? 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050901/73b14fe4/attachment.html From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 17:32:37 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:32:37 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Support #431041 In-Reply-To: <20050901201738.79414.qmail@web81609.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050901201738.79414.qmail@web81609.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2a052b99050902083255944d9e@mail.gmail.com> On 9/1/05, Madalyn Bass wrote: > i have not been able to used this game suppercollase since date of purchase Your best bet would be to contact either the manufacturer of the game or the vendor that you purchased it from. This mailing list is for support of SpamBayes, an open-source spam filter. -- Kenny Pitt From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 17:36:45 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:36:45 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems I cannot fix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2a052b9905090208369cd688c@mail.gmail.com> On 8/31/05, Tony Meyer wrote: > > When I boot my computer I get a message that reads there seems > > to be a conflict in your spam bays configuration Spam Bay manager > > and when I try to run the spam manager nothing seems to make a > > difference. What can I do or what happened? > > Please send us a copy of your most recent log file. SpamBayes->SpamBayes > Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log. Or, since Outlook probably disabled SpamBayes, you may need to find the log file manually. Try looking in C:\Documents and Settings\\Local Settings\Temp for files named spambayes1.log, spambayes2.log, etc. -- Kenny Pitt From lmchrist at marlboro.edu Fri Sep 2 19:22:58 2005 From: lmchrist at marlboro.edu (Lisa Christensen) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:22:58 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] messages disappear Message-ID: <000701c5afe2$f6f5c9e0$7304000a@admin.marlboro.edu> I am using SpamBayes 1.0 with Outlook. With increasing frequency, I am seeing email messages disappear from the inbox and going nowhere I can find, not the deleted or spam folders. In many cases these are messages I would "recover from spam." I cannot find reference to this problem on your site. I have now disabled SpamByes - would appreciate any assistance. Thanks, Lisa Lisa M. Christensen Director of Development & Communications Marlboro College, Marlboro, VT 05344-0300 802-258-9259 direct voice / 802-384-3172 Cell www.marlboro.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Try FAQ #3.12: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#some-of-my-mail-is-going-missing -- Kenny Pitt From samata at 3pjobs.com Sat Sep 3 08:00:53 2005 From: samata at 3pjobs.com (Samata Gawde) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 11:30:53 +0530 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Sex pictures Message-ID: <000f01c5b04c$d8b06890$1401a8c0@3pconsultants.co.in> -------------------------------------------------------------- Three P Consultants Pvt Ltd, Mumbai, India From DrWEB-DAEMON at energo.ru Sat Sep 3 13:04:49 2005 From: DrWEB-DAEMON at energo.ru (DrWeb-DAEMON) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:04:49 +0400 (MSD) Subject: [Spambayes] Undelivered mail: Information Message-ID: <200509031104.j83B4nr37696@ns.energo.ru> ????????? ??????????? spambayes at python.org ! ?????????, ???????????? ? ?????? ?????? (???????? ??????? ? ??????? ??????????) ?? ??????(??) ndrosov at general.energo.ru ???????????? ? ?? ???? ??????????. --- Dr.Web report --- ??????(?) ?????????(?) ?????(?): Known virus(es): Win32.HLLM.Netsky.35328 ???????????????? ????? Dr.Web: 127.0.0.1 [37690] drweb.tmp.Y72884 - archive MAIL 127.0.0.1 [37690] drweb.tmp.Y72884/[text:plain] - Ok 127.0.0.1 [37690] drweb.tmp.Y72884/news01.zip infected with Win32.HLLM.Netsky.35328 ?????????? ???????????? Dr.Web: Known viruses : 1 --- Dr.Web report --- ???? ????????? ????????? ? ????????? ??? ??????: file was not created ????? ???????? ??? ?????????, ?????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ?????? <0845>, ?????? ???, ??? ??????? ???? ????????? ????????? ? ?????????. --- ???????????? ?????? ???????? ???????? Dr.Web (R) Daemon (http://www.drweb.com) -------------- next part -------------- Dear User, the message with following attributes has not been delivered, because contains an infected object. Sender = spambayes at python.org (may be forged) Recipients = ndrosov at general.energo.ru Subject = Information Message-ID = j83B4kJ37688 Antivirus filter report: --- Dr.Web report --- Following virus(es) has been found: Known virus(es): Win32.HLLM.Netsky.35328 Dr.Web detailed report: 127.0.0.1 [37690] drweb.tmp.Y72884 - archive MAIL 127.0.0.1 [37690] drweb.tmp.Y72884/[text:plain] - Ok 127.0.0.1 [37690] drweb.tmp.Y72884/news01.zip infected with Win32.HLLM.Netsky.35328 Dr.Web scanning statistic: Known viruses : 1 --- Dr.Web report --- The original message was stored in archive record named: file was not created In order to receive the original message, please send request to <0845>, referring to the archive record name given above. --- Antivirus service provided by Dr.Web (R) Daemon (http://www.drweb.com) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Sad old Outlook Express can't filter >on arbitrary headers, so needs the subject/to munging). I guess you might >want the munging for some other reason. > > Yes, I was able to turn off the Subject tags once I realized I didn't need them for Thunderbird. > > >>Also I've switched to the imap client, but had to use an older >>version due to not beeing able to connect to the mail server >>with the newer version. >> >> > >What's the older version and what's the newer one? 1.1a1 ought to be much >better than 1.0.x, but is in alpha. 1.0.4 should definitely be better than >any earlier 1.0.x's. > > I was unable to get the newer versions to work on my Gentoo install. I will have to attempt this again in the future. > > >>the problem is that it occasionaly crashes and i have to >>restart the filter. >> >> > >I don't suppose you have any more information than that? Like the message >that it printed when it crashed? > > Unfortunatly I don't have any error messages since i'm running spambayes as a process from init.d. For now I'll just deal with it, and attempt to get the newest versionup and running in the future. >=Tony.Meyer > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050903/340aeb0c/attachment.html From drud at verizon.net Sun Sep 4 18:52:21 2005 From: drud at verizon.net (Drud) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 12:52:21 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] teaching spambay Message-ID: <000701c5b171$05c785f0$6501a8c0@inspiron8600> Hi, Can I teach spambay not to spam anyone in the sent or contact folder? Thank You Drew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050904/6b500834/attachment.htm From ristaino at cotullaisd.net Tue Sep 6 03:15:50 2005 From: ristaino at cotullaisd.net (John Ristaino) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:15:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Filtering Without Action Message-ID: <754E40EC86BE4B4BB8B4ABC2ECDAC45803D3BC@mail-server.cotullaisd.net> That's the problem -- I cannot get the filtering to show. Notes concerning the filtering action results in the order tried: First Filter Action Personal Folders (sub folders not checked): are 154 spam, 1 unsure, and 1331 good. However, Spam is 303, Junk Suspects 120, 1331 Good Second Filter Action Exchange Mailbox (sub folders not checked): 149 spam, 41 unsure, 3132 good messages. However, there are 295 known spam in the Spam folder, a folder identified for filtering. 86 of the 295 are scored as 0 percent with the remainder scoring from 1 to 14 percent. Third Filter Action Exchange Mailbox (sub folders checked): o spam, 1 unsure, 5596 good messages. Comments: Even after identifying one or the other, i.e. not both at the same time, folders in Exchange (Mailbox) or Personal (Personal) are identified for good and spam, one of the logs shows part of both. SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - John Ristaino/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/A Spam' I am unable to close, i.e. delete, Personal Folders. Another log shows: Addin terminating: 2 COM client and 2 COM servers exist. After clicking send/receive, SpamBayes, Filter Now (Perform all filter actions, no restrictions) on the inbox configured for Exchange "mode," i.e. Outlook on my personal computer receiving mail from an Exchange server, results in 3 spam, 5 unsure, and 5313 messages. Clicking on the Filter Now Close button results in no movement of the identified inbox spam to Spam. The good mail is scored with a 0 or something like 0.00000000000822345525 and the Spam is scored from 0.0+ (i.e. something like 0.000000000000000022204 even if the words SEXUALLY-EXPLICIT appears in the Subject even though a similar subject email has already part of the database) to 0.13+. After several attemps, the Advanced Statistics shows that SpamBayes has processed 16064 messages - 15679 (98%) good, 322 (2%) spam and 63 (0%) unsure. No messages were manually classified. Based on the scoring as noted, i.e. 0% or 0.0+% in the Inbox, I believe no filter movement will take place since Certain Spam score is 90 before it will move Spam and Possible Spam is 10 before it will move messages to Junk from the Inbox. When I choose to redo the database thru retraining or uninstalling and reinstalling SpamBayes, the scoring statement reads: Completed training with 0 spam and 1315 good messages. Looking at the contents of the Spam folder shows scoring of 0% (274) and 1% to 100% (471 messages). I do not know how to delete the previous or first scoring so that the training or Configuration Wizard accepts the Spam I have saved as unscored so that a new and more accurate scoring will take place relative to a reinstallation of SpamBayes. The spambayes_reinstall.log (shows only registration activity even though training occurred) was named by me because it would conflict with the spambayes4.log attached showing activity before the reinstall. The best results I have achieved is this last install rebuild retraining: out of 743 scored spam, 561 are recognized by SpamBayes as spam even though SpamBayes has scored 724 spam messages 90% to 100% with the remainder spam scored 44% to 89%. The key is that "new" comment in the one of the logs: even though I have checked rebuild entire database and there are no restrictions in the filtering option, SpamBayes is still only looking for new and not existing. John Ristaino, Technology Director Cotulla ISD www.cotulla.k12.tx.us 310 North Main St, Cotulla TX 78014 830-879-4321 (voice), -4335 (FAX) -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:38 PM To: John Ristaino; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Filtering Without Action > From SpamBayes tool bar, Filter messages action is chosen, > perform all filter actions, Start Filtering, resulting in > found x spam, y good, but messages stay in In Box and none > are moved to Spam no matter what is clicked on. [...log snipped...] This log doesn't have any record of any filtering. 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This is called whitelisting. Please see FAQ 6.6: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From NDINGLE at PROSOL-INC.COM Tue Sep 6 15:32:57 2005 From: NDINGLE at PROSOL-INC.COM (Norm Dingle) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:32:57 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes quit working and won't reinstall Message-ID: I am running Outlook 2003 and had Spambayes running fine. All of a sudden it quit working. I have read the trouble shooting manual and nothing seems to work. I have uninstalled Spambayes and reinstalled several times. The log file says it is registered. When I go to the Advanced options/Comm Addinns dialog Spambay show in the list but unchecked. I check it and then restart Outlook. No Spambayes. The addin dialog then shows it unchecked again. Right now I don?t have any other ideas about what to try. 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So I would like to stop using the Outlook add-in and start using the SpamBayes Server proxy. I, of cause, want to keep my ham/spam database! Would someone please, in a step by step way, guide me through the process! // Anders -- English isn't my first, or second, language. So anything rude or strange are due to the translation From schoblocher at zoppoth.net Wed Sep 7 16:37:34 2005 From: schoblocher at zoppoth.net (Mag. Arno Schoblocher) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:37:34 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] users should share database Message-ID: <000c01c5b3b9$afda7b20$0100000a@ZOPPOTH.local> Hello, I tested the outlook add-in twice now but I could not make it work: I am trying to have a central database for all users, however, it does not work because the user-based ini-file on the central network drive has always the same name (eg. outlook.ini, or MS Exchange Settings.ini) for every user. So, for one user the network share works, if another user starts he overwrites the existing "outlook.ini" file with his personal data also named "outlook.ini" (eg. outlook folder names). My problem behind is that I would like to know if I can install Spambayes on a Windows 2000 SP4 Terminal Server running Outlook XP (Office XP), however, I could not find any useful instruction for installation in readme-files and the mail archives. How do I install the Spambayes outlook addin with a central spam database on a Win2k Terminal Server or Win2k Pro with multiple users? I would very much appreciate if someone could add an article about how to install Spambayes on a Windows multi user system (Win2k Pro or Win2k/2k3 server) additionally to the existing documentation. Maybe I am doing something wrong. I installed the software (with change user /install on the TS), run outlook_addin_register.exe hkey_local_machine edit the ini-file to use the network share. When starting Outlook the wizard comes up, however, everybody writes to the same ini-file. Regards arno From jsp at PKC.com Wed Sep 7 18:00:28 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 12:00:28 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] users should share database Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15601@PKCVT01.pkc.com> As far as I know, SpamBayes does no contention management (locking) on its databases. As a result, there's no robust way to share a database among multiple processes. So I think that even if you solve the current problem, you won't be able to get this approach to work. If you need to filter mail for multiple users with a single database, you'll probably need to set up server-side filtering, so only one process uses the database. Personally, I think the individualized nature of the database is one of SpamBayes' greatest assets. One man's ham is another's spam. Even if you get it working, using a single database to filter for multiple users seems likely to provide a lower quality of filtering (from your users' point of view) than individual databases would. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mag. Arno > Schoblocher > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:38 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] users should share database > > Hello, > > I tested the outlook add-in twice now but I could not make it > work: I am > trying to have a central database for all users, however, it > does not work > because the user-based ini-file on the central network drive > has always the > same name (eg. outlook.ini, or MS Exchange Settings.ini) for > every user. > > So, for one user the network share works, if another user starts he > overwrites the existing "outlook.ini" file with his personal > data also named > "outlook.ini" (eg. outlook folder names). > > My problem behind is that I would like to know if I can > install Spambayes on > a Windows 2000 SP4 Terminal Server running Outlook XP (Office > XP), however, > I could not find any useful instruction for installation in > readme-files and > the mail archives. > > How do I install the Spambayes outlook addin with a central > spam database on > a Win2k Terminal Server or Win2k Pro with multiple users? I > would very much > appreciate if someone could add an article about how to > install Spambayes on > a Windows multi user system (Win2k Pro or Win2k/2k3 server) > additionally to > the existing documentation. > > Maybe I am doing something wrong. I installed the software > (with change user > /install on the TS), run > outlook_addin_register.exe hkey_local_machine > edit the ini-file to use the network share. > > When starting Outlook the wizard comes up, however, everybody > writes to the > same ini-file. > > Regards > > arno From mringer at austin.rr.com Wed Sep 7 18:09:34 2005 From: mringer at austin.rr.com (michael) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:09:34 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] users should share database In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15601@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <01aa01c5b3c6$8a269cd0$0301a8c0@superbubba> I agree with Jesse. Michael Ringer Administrative Manager Global Credential Evaluators http://www.gcevaluators.com http://www.gceus.com Global Credential Evaluators, Inc. is a member of NACESR 512-528-0908 512-528-9293 (FAX) -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:00 AM To: Mag. Arno Schoblocher; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] users should share database As far as I know, SpamBayes does no contention management (locking) on its databases. As a result, there's no robust way to share a database among multiple processes. So I think that even if you solve the current problem, you won't be able to get this approach to work. If you need to filter mail for multiple users with a single database, you'll probably need to set up server-side filtering, so only one process uses the database. Personally, I think the individualized nature of the database is one of SpamBayes' greatest assets. One man's ham is another's spam. Even if you get it working, using a single database to filter for multiple users seems likely to provide a lower quality of filtering (from your users' point of view) than individual databases would. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mag. Arno > Schoblocher > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:38 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] users should share database > > Hello, > > I tested the outlook add-in twice now but I could not make it > work: I am > trying to have a central database for all users, however, it > does not work > because the user-based ini-file on the central network drive > has always the > same name (eg. outlook.ini, or MS Exchange Settings.ini) for > every user. > > So, for one user the network share works, if another user starts he > overwrites the existing "outlook.ini" file with his personal > data also named > "outlook.ini" (eg. outlook folder names). > > My problem behind is that I would like to know if I can > install Spambayes on > a Windows 2000 SP4 Terminal Server running Outlook XP (Office > XP), however, > I could not find any useful instruction for installation in > readme-files and > the mail archives. > > How do I install the Spambayes outlook addin with a central > spam database on > a Win2k Terminal Server or Win2k Pro with multiple users? I > would very much > appreciate if someone could add an article about how to > install Spambayes on > a Windows multi user system (Win2k Pro or Win2k/2k3 server) > additionally to > the existing documentation. > > Maybe I am doing something wrong. I installed the software > (with change user > /install on the TS), run > outlook_addin_register.exe hkey_local_machine > edit the ini-file to use the network share. > > When starting Outlook the wizard comes up, however, everybody > writes to the > same ini-file. > > Regards > > arno _______________________________________________ Spambayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From maryannobrien at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 7 23:29:54 2005 From: maryannobrien at sbcglobal.net (maryannobrien) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 14:29:54 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Help Message-ID: I have Spam Bayer Outlook Addin, Binary Version 0.81 Here is my problem: When I delete to spam the items in suspected spam, I get an error message saying - spam must be configured. What do I do? Thanks for any help you can give. Mary Ann O'Brien -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Clicking on configure similarly tries to take me to http://localhost:8880/config but that page cannot be displayed as well. Help. Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050908/9656d110/attachment.htm From mateusj at shaw.ca Thu Sep 8 09:25:07 2005 From: mateusj at shaw.ca (JOSEPH MATEUS) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 01:25:07 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Why doesn't Spam Bayes work with Outlook Express ??? Message-ID: <000601c5b446$7031f600$c50e9244@joe265b26581d2> Why doesn't SpamBayes work with Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 ?? That's my only e-mail client and this leaves me totally unable to try your product. Please respond at your earliest convenience. JOSEPH E. MATEUS mateusj at shaw.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050908/4fcd40be/attachment.html From schoblocher at zoppoth.net Thu Sep 8 10:52:42 2005 From: schoblocher at zoppoth.net (Mag. Arno Schoblocher) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 10:52:42 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] users should share database In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15601@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <000001c5b452$acda1ae0$0100000a@ZOPPOTH.local> Thank you Jesse and Michael, for clearifying the point that > ...there's no robust > way to share a database among multiple processes. So, I can use only personal settings for each user in his user profile which is the standard setting. Let's see how big the databases will grow. However, the documentation says that multiple user can share one database (?) but this cannot work when all users save their personal settings to the same file overwriting other user's settings. Or did I misunderstand something? Maybe, each user can have its own - personal - network share, with the only purpose to store the data NOT in the windows user profile. Maybe my english is just too bad... When user databases grow to big (for the windows user profile) then I will simply add the redirection to a network share and move the files there. Still, I would like to suggest that someone who knows about it adds a "how to" to the docu for Windows Terminal Server users. For me, the installation (each user has his personal database in his homedrive H:) on a Terminal Server would work like this (tested on Win2k Pro Desktop!): 1) Cleanup and prepare Outlook: This step is necessary as running Outlook after the installation will bring up the wizard where one should already have defined spam and ham. (I am not using the default folders as my folders should have german names.) Create a folder called "mySpam", move all available spam into that folder. Cleanup all folders containing "ham" otherwise training Spambayes can take ages (I have mails of 4 years in my mailbox), if necessary create a folder called "ham" and put in typical good mails for training. Create a folder for unsure mail, like "UNSURE_Mail", it should be located close to the inbox so that users do not forget to check it. 2) Install SpamBayes: Log in as admin, run change user /install in a dos-box and install the programm, select to install the Outlook-Addin. After that run in the dos box the following c:\path_to_spambayes...\outlook_addin_register.exe hkey_local_machine (I am not 100% sure if this must be done or not) and check the spambayes event logs and run change user /execute Now one can add a file called default_configuration.ini to the SpamBayes Application directory (\bin) with the following content to move all databases to the users homedrive (outlook folder that will already exist for everybody): [General] data_directory: H:\Microsoft\Outlook 3) Run Outlook as a User This will bring up the wizard, use default settings for everything except the folders "mySpam" for spam and "ham" for training SpamBayes. Have the program check your inbox and put unsure mail into "UNSURE_Mail". This will create the database and the personal ini-file in H:\Microsoft\Outlook. Any suggestions? arno > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] Im Auftrag von Jesse Pelton > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. September 2005 18:00 > An: Mag. Arno Schoblocher; spambayes at python.org > Betreff: Re: [Spambayes] users should share database > > > As far as I know, SpamBayes does no contention management > (locking) on its databases. As a result, there's no robust > way to share a database among multiple processes. So I think > that even if you solve the current problem, you won't be able > to get this approach to work. If you need to filter mail for > multiple users with a single database, you'll probably need > to set up server-side filtering, so only one process uses the > database. > > Personally, I think the individualized nature of the database is one > of SpamBayes' greatest assets. One man's ham is another's spam. Even > if you get it working, using a single database to filter for multiple > users seems likely to provide a lower quality of filtering (from your > users' point of view) than individual databases would. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mag. Arno > > Schoblocher > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:38 AM > > To: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: [Spambayes] users should share database > > > > Hello, > > > > I tested the outlook add-in twice now but I could not make it > > work: I am > > trying to have a central database for all users, however, it does > > not work because the user-based ini-file on the central network > > drive has always the > > same name (eg. outlook.ini, or MS Exchange Settings.ini) for > > every user. > > > > So, for one user the network share works, if another user starts he > > overwrites the existing "outlook.ini" file with his > personal data also > > named "outlook.ini" (eg. outlook folder names). > > > > My problem behind is that I would like to know if I can install > > Spambayes on a Windows 2000 SP4 Terminal Server running Outlook XP > > (Office XP), however, > > I could not find any useful instruction for installation in > > readme-files and > > the mail archives. > > > > How do I install the Spambayes outlook addin with a central spam > > database on a Win2k Terminal Server or Win2k Pro with multiple > > users? I would very much > > appreciate if someone could add an article about how to > > install Spambayes on > > a Windows multi user system (Win2k Pro or Win2k/2k3 server) > > additionally to > > the existing documentation. > > > > Maybe I am doing something wrong. I installed the software (with > > change user /install on the TS), run > > outlook_addin_register.exe hkey_local_machine > > edit the ini-file to use the network share. > > > > When starting Outlook the wizard comes up, however, everybody writes > > to the same ini-file. > > > > Regards > > > > arno > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From jsp at PKC.com Thu Sep 8 13:50:24 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 07:50:24 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Why doesn't Spam Bayes work with Outlook Express ??? Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15605@PKCVT01.pkc.com> SpamBayes does work with Outlook Express (presumably including version 6.0); see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of JOSEPH MATEUS Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:25 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Why doesn't Spam Bayes work with Outlook Express ??? Importance: High Why doesn't SpamBayes work with Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 ?? That's my only e-mail client and this leaves me totally unable to try your product. Please respond at your earliest convenience. JOSEPH E. MATEUS mateusj at shaw.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050908/b0c504c3/attachment.html From jan.raikkala at welho.com Thu Sep 8 21:19:11 2005 From: jan.raikkala at welho.com (Jan Raikkala) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:19:11 +0300 Subject: [Spambayes] Where i find 1.1a1 download? Message-ID: <20050908191916.8EFFE7FC4F@smtp1.pp.htv.fi> Hello, SpamBayes 1.1a1 is also now available! (This includes both the source archives and a Windows binary installers). How can I download this version? Best regards, Jan Raikkala -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050908/a851341f/attachment.html From ganderso at tcr.com Thu Sep 8 21:28:42 2005 From: ganderso at tcr.com (Glenn Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 15:28:42 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Errors in Spambayes Message-ID: <611B0ABD53CBD111B4FE0060970DBE1767CA4A@AVIS> First let me compliment and Thank You for an excellent program. Now the problem, I recently had to rebuild my pc and reload XP Pro. The XP is SP2 with of course all of the patches and updates. I am running Outlook 2000, because I have a license for it, it works and I really don't need the bloat. Previously I ran Outlook 2000 and Windows 2000, and Spambayes worked great saved me a lot pain and aggravation. Since going to XP the one thing I've seen is a noticeable delay when spambayes is running, I've checked Event Logs, uninstalled and reinstalled Spambayes, deleted the configuration files, etc. Finally I decided to enable the log. Shown below is an error that repeatly shows up in the Spambayes log file. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 601, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 1014, in GetSelectedMessages File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 455, in __getattr__ File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 446, in _ApplyTypes_ pywintypes.com_error: (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (4096, 'Microsoft Outlook', 'The operation failed.', None, 0, -2147221233), None) pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. If you want additional information please let me know I'll be more than happy to help. If you get the chance and happen to know from the error what I can do to reslove the issue I would appreciate a response. Otherwise Thanks again for a great program. Sincerely, Glenn C. Anderson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050908/147b4349/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Thu Sep 8 21:39:49 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 15:39:49 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Where i find 1.1a1 download? Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1560B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Go to the downloads page (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/download.html) and click one of the "file releases for this project" links. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jan Raikkala Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:19 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Where i find 1.1a1 download? Hello, SpamBayes 1.1a1 is also now available! (This includes both the source archives and a Windows binary installers). How can I download this version? Best regards, Jan Raikkala -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050908/0f15ec2c/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 9 02:42:17 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:42:17 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes quit working and won't reinstall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When I go to the Advanced options/Comm Addinns dialog > Spambay show in the list but unchecked. > I check it and then restart Outlook. No Spambayes. The > addin dialog then shows it unchecked again. This is almost certainly Outlook having disabled the plug-in. Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. You'll have to ask Microsoft why they put this in two places, and why one of them is underneath the About dialog (certainly makes no sense to me). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 9 02:44:30 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:44:30 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving from outlook add-in to server proxy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have one problem! I use Outlook filter function to sort > mails into various categories and this filtering will take > place before SpamBayes does its work. This is a fault in Outlook... Will setting SpamBayes to filter all these folders not work? > So I would like to stop using the Outlook add-in and start > using the SpamBayes Server proxy. > > I, of cause, want to keep my ham/spam database! > > Would someone please, in a step by step way, guide me through > the process! Basically, just go through the standard setup for sb_server, and then stop it, and copy the default_bayes_database.db file in your (Outlook) data directory into the proxy data directory as "hammie.db". =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 9 02:45:38 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:45:38 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have Spam Bayer Outlook Addin, Binary Version 0.81 This is very old now. We highly recommend upgrading to 1.0.4. > When I delete to spam the items in suspected spam, I > get an error message saying - spam must be configured. Open the Manager dialog (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager) and go to the "Filtering" tab and check that all the folders selected there are correct. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From andis59 at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 07:58:22 2005 From: andis59 at gmail.com (Anders Eriksson) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:58:22 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving from outlook add-in to server proxy References: Message-ID: <1smmnmwjt2om3.dlg@morateknikutveckling.se> Hello tony, On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:44:30 +1200, Tony Meyer wrote: > > Will setting SpamBayes to filter all these folders not work? > Of cause! I can't believe I never thought of that! Maybe I'm not as clever as I think ;-) This is a much better solution! Thank you very much! // Anders -- English isn't my first, or second, language. So anything rude or strange are due to the translation From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 9 08:12:24 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:12:24 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving from outlook add-in to server proxy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> Will setting SpamBayes to filter all these folders not work? > > Of cause! I can't believe I never thought of that! > Maybe I'm not as clever as I think ;-) > > This is a much better solution! In the past I know that having a lot of folders in the filter list made Outlook quite slow to start up, which would be one negative. Hopefully we can address that at some point, if it is still the case. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From mail at anthonymain.com Fri Sep 9 12:26:05 2005 From: mail at anthonymain.com (Anthony Main) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:26:05 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Thunderbird Extension Message-ID: I've been using Spam Bayes for a few years now and have always been impressed with its filtering capabilities, however I've always found Outlook to be a big overhead on my system. Is it possible to port the application to run as a Thunderbird plugin ?! If not is there a way I can set it up so I can use my current Spam Bayes db but via the POP3 functionality in Thunderbird ?? Thanks in advance Anthony Main -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050909/abfc5f59/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Fri Sep 9 17:46:45 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:46:45 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1560D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> It looks like you're using Outlook Express, so http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express might help (in particular, steps 8 through 14). A note to whoever the FAQ maintainer(s): could steps 3 - 7 be moved after the steps currently numbered 8 - 14? The current step 12 could then include an instruction to write down the POP3 server name before overwriting it, and the current step 4 could make reference to the recorded value. The result would be something like: 1. Download the latest version of SpamBayes from the download page . 2. Run the installer - you want "sb_server", not the Outlook plug-in. 3. Open Outlook Express. 4. From the "Tools" menu, choose "Accounts". 5. Select your mail account and click "Properties". 6. Click the "Servers" tab. 7. Write down the contents of in the "incoming mail server" field (this is the name of your POP3 server), then change the name to "localhost" (no quotes). 8. Click "OK". 9. Click "Close". 10. Open the SpamBayes configuration page at http://localhost:8880/config (you can do this via the tray application, or just type that address into your browser). 11. Enter your POP3 server's name (which you wrote down in step 7) in the top box ("Remote Servers"). 12. Enter "110" (no quotes) in the second box ("SpamBayes ports"). 13. Tick the "unsure" and "spam" boxes in the "Notate to" option, about halfway down the page. 14. Click the "Save configuration" button at the end of the page. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of shaydeb at peoplepc.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:04 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration I am a true computer neophyte and I tried to set up SpamBayes, but I do not know how to change my mail client to connect to localhost instead of directly to my mail server. How do I do this? Debbie @ shaydeb at peoplepc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The error within Outlook Express is as follows: Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Account: 'mail.tesco.net', Server: 'localhost', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F Thanks for your assistance in advance. Martin Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050909/7cbe2e25/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bayescustomize.ini Type: application/octet-stream Size: 107 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050909/7cbe2e25/bayescustomize-0001.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There should be an envelope icon in your tray (in the bottom right of your screen) with a green 'play' arrow on it. -- Richie Hindle richie at entrian.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Sep 10 02:22:02 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:22:02 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Assistance Please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Martin] >> Attached is your configuration ini file and screen shot of >> my Express setup. [Richie] > It looks as though you're doing everything right. Silly > question: are you running SpamBayes? If you are, are you maybe using something else that's processing your email, like some anti-virus software? If so, what software is it? Your SpamBayes log file (in your temp directory; I'm not sure where this is with ME) might have additional clues (but might not, in this case). =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Sep 10 02:23:11 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:23:11 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This message appears: [corrupt database] > Re-Install didn't help. > Any suggestions? You need to retrain, as the message says. Either use the "Training" tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog (making sure you tick the "Rebuild entire database" box), or use the Wizard to retrain. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Sep 10 02:28:20 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:28:20 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > A note to whoever the FAQ maintainer(s): could steps 3 - 7 > be moved after the steps currently numbered 8 - 14? The > current step 12 could then include an instruction to write > down the POP3 server name before overwriting it, and the > current step 4 could make reference to the recorded value. Done. Thanks for the suggestion (as well as all the support mail that you're answering!). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From arleenbanks at cox.net Sat Sep 10 16:05:57 2005 From: arleenbanks at cox.net (Arleen Banks) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:05:57 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] toolbar Message-ID: I would prefer that my spambayes toolbar be on top of my outlook toolbar and have moved it to do so. However, the next time outlook loads, the spambayes toolbar defaults to the bottom again. Is this normal? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050910/07e7e9dc/attachment.html From claude_jones at levitjames.com Sat Sep 10 16:46:25 2005 From: claude_jones at levitjames.com (Claude Jones) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:46:25 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] toolbar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200509101046.25842.claude_jones@levitjames.com> On Saturday 10 September 2005 10:05 am, Arleen Banks wrote: > I would prefer that my spambayes toolbar be on top of my outlook toolbar > and have moved it to do so. However, the next time outlook loads, the > spambayes toolbar defaults to the bottom again. Is this normal? That's a Microsoft/Outlook issue, not a Spambayes issue - I've long ago given up on arranging my toolbars - perhaps someone else has discovered the secret -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Sat Sep 10 23:53:50 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:53:50 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Error Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5004873194@SPIKE.city> An interesting case. The user apparently confused retraining with reinstallation and/or assumed (incorrectly) that the latter would incorporate the former. Why not expand the error message to clarify the distinction, maybe including a notation like "Reinstallation isn't necessary and won't help." Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:23 PM > To: 'Bernhard Jasny'; spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes Error > > > > This message appears: > [corrupt database] > > Re-Install didn't help. > > Any suggestions? > > You need to retrain, as the message says. Either use the > "Training" tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog (making sure > you tick the "Rebuild entire database" box), or use the > Wizard to retrain. > > =Tony.Meyer From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Sun Sep 11 10:43:44 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:43:44 +0300 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.1a and McAfee Security Center Message-ID: For months, I've been using SpamBayes at home with the proxy setup (using Thunderbird and/or Outlook Express) w/o any problems whatsoever. I upgraded to version 1.1a and everything was cool. Then I installed the McAfee Security Center and then the e-mail programs would hang upon retrieving the mail from the POP3 server - I guess it was the SB proxy that was actually hanging. I finally gave up on McAfee (which is a huge pain in the a** anyway) and installed the free AVG anti-virus and the problems are gone. Another added bonus is that when AVG scans the incoming mails, it shows a progress bar on each message, so you know where you are in the downloading process. Has anyone seen the same problem with McAfee? Thanks Amir -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you can send email from the address listed in your account preferences (this address should be shown at the bottom of emails that we send to you), resend your request to remove at audible.com from that address. 3. If you know your audible.com Username and Password, go to http://www.audible.com/mypreferences to remove the check from "Please include me in audible.com's email updates." If you have forgotten your password you can go to http://www.audible.com/passwordreminder Sincerely, Audible Customer Support http://www.audible.com From Egnemilio at aol.com Mon Sep 12 05:01:49 2005 From: Egnemilio at aol.com (Egnemilio@aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:01:49 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] mail checker add-on Message-ID: <81.2fb30d16.3056499d@aol.com> necesito los tlf de acceso de joi tengo cuenta y no se los numeros de acceso -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Personally, I'd choose the first option, because a) it's simpler and therefore less likely to break, and b) you'll be helping to flush out any bugs in 1.1a1, so the 1.1 final release can be as good as possible. (Having said that, I'm off to download it myself, so I can practice what I preach.) ________________________________ From: shaydeb at peoplepc.com [mailto:shaydeb at peoplepc.com] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 6:57 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Configuration Thanks for the help Jesse. I followed your directions, but here's the error message I get everytime I try to retrieve mail via Outlook Express "The server responded with an error. Account: 'PeoplePC Online', Server: 'localhost', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '-ERR Service not available (server error)', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC90" Any suggestions? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Pelton To: shaydeb at peoplepc.com ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Configuration It looks like you're using Outlook Express, so http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express might help (in particular, steps 8 through 14). A note to whoever the FAQ maintainer(s): could steps 3 - 7 be moved after the steps currently numbered 8 - 14? The current step 12 could then include an instruction to write down the POP3 server name before overwriting it, and the current step 4 could make reference to the recorded value. The result would be something like: 1. Download the latest version of SpamBayes from the download page . 2. Run the installer - you want "sb_server", not the Outlook plug-in. 3. Open Outlook Express. 4. From the "Tools" menu, choose "Accounts". 5. Select your mail account and click "Properties". 6. Click the "Servers" tab. 7. Write down the contents of in the "incoming mail server" field (this is the name of your POP3 server), then change the name to "localhost" (no quotes). 8. Click "OK". 9. Click "Close". 10. Open the SpamBayes configuration page at http://localhost:8880/config (you can do this via the tray application, or just type that address into your browser). 11. Enter your POP3 server's name (which you wrote down in step 7) in the top box ("Remote Servers"). 12. Enter "110" (no quotes) in the second box ("SpamBayes ports"). 13. Tick the "unsure" and "spam" boxes in the "Notate to" option, about halfway down the page. 14. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050912/72f94e6f/attachment.htm From contact at nkonline.org Tue Sep 13 05:09:23 2005 From: contact at nkonline.org (Natalie Keng) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:09:23 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] help! Message-ID: Hi, I hope this is the right list to use. I just installed SB after a friend recommended it. I'm not an advanced techie but I think it's working pretty well, except for one thing and I don't know what's happening. When I first open outlook and msgs are being downloaded, I see them appearing in my inbox, then in a matter of seconds a few of them start disappearing, like an invisible hand is deleting them into thin air. They are nowhere to be found in any folder (not in Deleted, Junk Mail/Suspects etc). Can't find them anywhere and they are real msgs, not spam. Can you help me find my messages!?? and how to stop them from being "stolen" from my inbox? Thanks!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1940 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050912/e87a1a85/winmail.bin From barrier at fluegel.com Tue Sep 13 07:32:29 2005 From: barrier at fluegel.com (Steve Fluegel) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:32:29 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] imap filter BadIMAPResponseError Message-ID: <000c01c5b824$933366c0$0a01a8c0@flogger2> I'm trying to get the sb_imapfilter to talk to my Exchange 5.5 server's IMAP interface, but I keep getting the same error. I'm using ActiveState's ActivePython 2.4 on XP SP2. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Steve Here's the printout... C:\Python24\Scripts>python sb_imapfilter.py -v -l 5 -P -i 4 -t SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 1.1a1 (April 2005). Loading database C:\Documents and Settings\steve\Application Data\SpamBayes\Prox y\hammie.db...Loading state from C:\Documents and Settings\steve\Application Dat a\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db database C:\Documents and Settings\steve\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db is an existing database, with 0 spam and 0 ham Done. Enter password for barrier: User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Account: mail.fluegel.com:143 26:42.47 > LCN1 LOGIN barrier "???????" 26:42.58 < LCN1 OK LOGIN completed. Training 26:42.58 > LCN2 SELECT INBOX 26:42.67 < * 82 EXISTS 26:42.67 < * 0 RECENT 26:42.67 < * FLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft) 26:42.67 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft)] 26:42.67 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 5511] UIDVALIDITY value. 26:42.69 < LCN2 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. Training ham folder INBOX 26:42.69 > LCN3 UID SEARCH UNDELETED 26:42.75 < * SEARCH 2 6 11 13 16 19 20 21 25 26 27 28 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 38 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 49 51 69 72 74 75 76 78 80 82 86 87 88 89 90 92 97 102 1 03 105 106 107 112 114 115 118 239 256 443 765 795 1070 1327 1613 2209 2778 2920 3504 4651 4730 6223 6259 6999 8095 8111 10719 10829 10850 10931 11085 11102 112 42 11546 11547 26:42.75 < LCN3 OK SEARCH completed. 26:42.75 > LCN4 UID FETCH 2 RFC822.HEADER 26:42.84 < * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {1020} 26:42.84 read literal size 1020 26:42.92 < UID 2) 26:42.92 < LCN4 OK FETCH completed. Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1203, in ? run() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1181, in run imap_filter.Train() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 945, in Train num_trained = folder.Train(self.classifier, is_spam) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 829, in Train for msg in self: File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 740, in __iter__ yield self[key] File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 772, in __getitem__ data = self.imap_server.extract_fetch_data(response_data) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 399, in extract_fetch_data msg_data = self._extract_fetch_data(msg) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 372, in _extract_fetch_data raise BadIMAPResponseError("FETCH response", response) __main__.BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'FETCH response' failed to give an OK response. (' UID 2)',) C:\Python24\Scripts> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050913/f182f9ad/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Sep 13 11:04:10 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:04:10 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.1a1 installation oddity In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15615@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15615@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <251DBA57-1C7E-46AF-9C98-03FCF901F29B@ihug.co.nz> > I left "View welcome.html" checked on the final page of the wizard, > and > much to my surprise, the file was opened in Notepad when I exited the > installer. Items in Outlook's SpamBayes > Help menu all open in > programs that render the HTML. (For some reason, "About SpamBayes" > and > "Troubleshooting Guide" open in Netscape Composer. Other items in the > menu open in my default browser as expected.) If you double-click an .html file in Windows Explorer, does it open in the browser? If you look in the Internet Options (or whatever it's called; I'm using my Mac at the moment so can't check) control panel, are the helper applications set correctly? Do you have Python installed? If you do, could you run: python -c "import webbrowser;webbrowser.open('http://spambayes.org')" And see which application opens? =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Sep 13 11:05:12 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:05:12 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] help! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > When I first > open outlook and msgs are being downloaded, I see them appearing in my > inbox, then in a matter of seconds a few of them start > disappearing, like an > invisible hand is deleting them into thin air. They are nowhere to > be found > in any folder (not in Deleted, Junk Mail/Suspects etc). Can't find > them > anywhere and they are real msgs, not spam. > Please see FAQ 3.12: =Tony.Meyer From JLHutton at comcast.net Tue Sep 13 15:16:53 2005 From: JLHutton at comcast.net (Johnnie Hutton) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:16:53 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] disappearing messages Message-ID: <000401c5b865$68cefb10$6401a8c0@Reception> Why do some messages just disappear after they are retrieved. My inbox will show messages, but they disappear. The ?junk mail? and ?junk suspects? folder do not even show up when I click on the spam folder. Please advise -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.23/99 - Release Date: 9/12/2005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050913/77678109/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Tue Sep 13 15:28:38 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:28:38 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.1a1 installation oddity Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1561C@PKCVT01.pkc.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:04 AM > To: Jesse Pelton > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] 1.1a1 installation oddity > > > I left "View welcome.html" checked on the final page of the > wizard, > > and > > much to my surprise, the file was opened in Notepad when I > exited the > > installer. Items in Outlook's SpamBayes > Help menu all open in > > programs that render the HTML. (For some reason, "About > SpamBayes" > > and > > "Troubleshooting Guide" open in Netscape Composer. Other > items in the > > menu open in my default browser as expected.) > > If you double-click an .html file in Windows Explorer, does it open > in the browser? I should have thought of this myself. It opens Netscape Composer. > If you look in the Internet Options (or whatever > it's called; I'm using my Mac at the moment so can't check) control > panel, are the helper applications set correctly? Well, I looked at the file type associations before I sent the first message, and found myself totally confused. There were "Edit" and "Print" verbs for HTML files, both of which claimed to run MS Office's msohtmed.exe. There was no "Open" verb, and HTML files were displayed with the Firefox icon. So HTML files displayed with one program's icon, claimed to be editable or printable but not openable with another program, and actually opened (for editing) with a third. Furthermore, IE and Firefox each seemed to think itself my primary browser - I have them both set to check on startup, and neither asked if I want to make it my primary browser. In short, the whole thing was a mess (which some would simply spell MS, but in this case it was probably due to my habit of upgrading Firefox regularly by installing it in a new directory; I imagine that at some point I deleted the version that was associated with the HTML type's "Open" verb). So I've just added an "Open" verb that specifies the current version of Firefox, and now opening an HTML file in Windows Explorer fires up Firefox. Cool. Better yet, the HTML items in the SpamBayes menu also come up in Firefox, so your question was exactly on target. BUT - if I reinstall SpamBayes 1.1a1, welcome.html still comes up in Notepad. > > Do you have Python installed? If you do, could you run: > > python -c "import > webbrowser;webbrowser.open('http://spambayes.org')" > > And see which application opens? No Python installed, but the remaining problem seems more likely to be in the installer and/or my system configuration than with SpamBayes itself. From dave_tonner at cbcradio3.com Tue Sep 13 20:42:37 2005 From: dave_tonner at cbcradio3.com (Dave Tonner) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:42:37 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and Public folders Message-ID: <927E509A89D58D42A6BA8506ADD559B402405F93@exchange.cbcr3.com> I wasn't sure where to post this question so please forgive me if I'm in the wrong area.... I saw a FAQ (I think) about spambayes not working with Exchange public folders. The reason given was not that it couldn't do it but rather that it was not enabled as it was felt that spamybayes was written specifically to cover mail items only. But many exchange/outlook users put mail in public folder to facilitate easy sharing of 'global' correspondence. I noticed that I can select public folders for spam review, but Spambayes does not appear to recognize that theirs is mail in the folders (probably because Exchange labels the folder contents as 'notes'? ). In any case, I'd just like to put my support behind having spambayes check public folders should that debate ever come up again. Thanks for the great useful tool. Regards, Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050913/be388d9c/attachment.html From spambayes at klaashofstra.com Wed Sep 14 15:40:11 2005 From: spambayes at klaashofstra.com (Klaas Hofstra) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:40:11 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter connection timeout handling Message-ID: <200509141540.11975.spambayes@klaashofstra.com> Hi, I really like sb_imapfilter, keep up the good work! I have a couple of questions about the filter: For some reason the connection to my IMAP server is regularly closed down due to a timeout. sb_imapfilter does not seem to handle this well, because it exits with the text at the bottom of this mail (debug set to -i 4). Shouldn't sb_imapfilter be able to gracefully handle this timeout by stopping the current action, closing down the connection, reopening the connection and continuing? Could a timeout lead to corrupted mail? I ask this because after running the filter I ended up with some mail with 'unknown' arrival date and some with 'unknown' sender. If I understand correctly a filtered mail is recreated with the new header and the old mail is removed. Is the deletion done after it is affirmed that the recreated copy was successfully created? Cheers, Klaas 11:32.61 < OLL1275 OK FETCH completed. 11:32.61 > OLL1276 UID FETCH 217 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 11:32.61 < * 217 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) INTERNALDATE "21-Jan-2005 13:45:56 +0200" UID 217) 11:32.61 < OLL1276 OK FETCH completed. 11:32.61 > OLL1277 APPEND "INBOX/spambayes" (\Seen) "21-Jan-2005 13:45:56 +0200" {2801} 11:32.62 < + Ready for additional command text. 11:32.62 write literal size 2801 41:32.82 < * BYE Microsoft Exchange IMAP4rev1 server version 5.5.2654.50 closing connection due to timeout 41:32.82 BYE response: Microsoft Exchange IMAP4rev1 server version 5.5.2654.50 closing connection due to timeout 41:32.82 last 4 IMAP4 interactions: 06:24.50 < * OK Microsoft Exchange IMAP4rev1 server version 5.5.2654.50 (--------) ready 06:24.50 > OLL0 CAPABILITY 06:24.50 < * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 IDLE LITERAL+ LOGIN-REFERRALS MAILBOX-REFERRALS NAMESPACE AUTH=NTLM 06:24.50 < OLL0 OK CAPABILITY completed. .................................................................................................................*************************************************************************************************Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 947, in ? run() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 937, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 808, in Filter self.unsure_folder) File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 722, in Filter for msg in self: File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 613, in __iter__ yield self[key] File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 662, in __getitem__ msg.Save() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 523, in Save self.as_string()) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/imaplib.py", line 316, in append return self._simple_command(name, mailbox, flags, date_time) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/imaplib.py", line 1028, in _simple_command return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/imaplib.py", line 860, in _command_complete raise self.abort('command: %s => %s' % (name, val)) imaplib.abort: command: APPEND => socket error: EOF From cjasper at cityofbowie.org Wed Sep 14 18:20:36 2005 From: cjasper at cityofbowie.org (Chad Jasper) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:20:36 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 1.0.4 problem [log files attached] Message-ID: <1403ED7C37EC2A41B947A18D8491818B332CF3@mail.cityofbowie.org> Hi, I am currently using Spambayes 1.0.4 and is having startup issues with Outlook 2000 on an exchange server. 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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 15 01:24:54 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:24:54 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Wont Enable In-Reply-To: <200509142131.j8ELVnii018916@talon.unitedhosting.co.uk> References: <200509142131.j8ELVnii018916@talon.unitedhosting.co.uk> Message-ID: > When I go to COM addins, I can't tick Spambayes to be selected. Or > I can, but then when I look again it is unticked. Please check to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in. Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 15 01:27:14 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:27:14 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] disappearing messages In-Reply-To: <000401c5b865$68cefb10$6401a8c0@Reception> References: <000401c5b865$68cefb10$6401a8c0@Reception> Message-ID: <58F60FE5-12F0-4C12-BE80-D8EA08564BEA@ihug.co.nz> > Why do some messages just disappear after they are retrieved. Please see FAQ 3.12: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From bobshipley at rmrelevator.com Thu Sep 15 03:03:09 2005 From: bobshipley at rmrelevator.com (Bob Shipley) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:03:09 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Help! Message-ID: <0IMU00GHW2XCFB10@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> I installed Norton Internet security which comes with norton antispam. I was happy with spambayes so i disabled norton antispam and the two played ok together. then all of a sudden spambayes stopped working. I tried downloading the latest version and disabled norton antispam after enabling it and still nothing. Can you help me? Bob SHipley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050914/46cfa495/attachment.html From sysakeric at yahoo.com Thu Sep 15 04:40:02 2005 From: sysakeric at yahoo.com (Eric Sysak) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Adding the SpamBayes Toolbar to message windows Message-ID: <20050915024002.59470.qmail@web36213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'd like to add the SpamBayes toolbar to message windows. Ideally I'd like to have the "Delete as Spam" button so that I can force SpamBayes to train on that message, rather than having to have to go back to the main window. I don't use the Preview Pane, so maybe those that use that already can do this. Thanks, Eric P.S. Great program! Your work is GREATLY appreciated! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jagla at cablespeed.com Thu Sep 15 08:41:17 2005 From: jagla at cablespeed.com (Mike Jagla) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:41:17 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] spam - folder Message-ID: Do I need to leave already found spam in the Junk E-mail folder? Does this effect spambayes? HYPERLINK "mailto:jagla at cablespeed.com"Mike | HYPERLINK "http://www.cityofduvall.com/"Duvall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050914/425db5e1/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 15 09:19:20 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:19:20 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] spam - folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19FC37E7-69B5-4B89-8958-9A524CF35B93@ihug.co.nz> > Do I need to leave already found spam in the Junk E-mail folder? > Does this effect spambayes? Please see FAQ 3.17: =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 15 09:22:43 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:22:43 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Adding the SpamBayes Toolbar to message windows In-Reply-To: <20050915024002.59470.qmail@web36213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050915024002.59470.qmail@web36213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > I'd like to add the SpamBayes toolbar to message > windows. Ideally I'd like to have the "Delete as > Spam" button so that I can force SpamBayes to train on > that message, rather than having to have to go back to > the main window. In good news, there is already an open feature request for this: [ 744558 ] Add "Delete As Spam" button to Outlook inspector w In (potentially) bad news, this is one of the oldest feature requests that's still open. I gather that it's not particularly simple to do, or it would have been done some time ago. Still, it is there, so probably will be looked at at some point - and you can monitor the tracker to be notified when something does happen. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 16 01:15:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:15:46 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] disappearing messages In-Reply-To: <000b01c5b9f9$2c0900f0$6401a8c0@Reception> References: <000b01c5b9f9$2c0900f0$6401a8c0@Reception> Message-ID: <3CDC9F88-D9CA-444E-978F-EA7F51A1401A@ihug.co.nz> > I, as I'm sure most people do, replied to the link indicated in the > spambays > software, not to you personally. What is your point? > Your message is rude and unprofessional. My message had four words, and one hyperlink. How did I manage to be rude and unprofessional with such brevity? You emailed a public mailing list asking for volunteer help with using a free software product. I responded with a link to information that would explain what was going wrong, and how you could fix it. I can't see anything rude or unprofessional there. > If it were up to me, I would not > purchase this product again, You seem very confused. SpamBayes is a free, open-source, product. It's not available for purchase. > simply because of your attitude. I have it on > my home computer, but I won't renew. There are other programs that > serve > the same purpose, without the insults. You are, of course, welcome to use whatever software you like. Since you paid nothing for SpamBayes, you lose nothing by ceasing to use it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From kirebrow at yahoo.com Fri Sep 16 02:42:50 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:42:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] disappearing messages In-Reply-To: <3CDC9F88-D9CA-444E-978F-EA7F51A1401A@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20050915234251.RXMJ25279.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Johhnie, I'm not sure who "sold" you SpamBayes, it might have been a spammer. I recommend you purchase InBoxer as a spam filtering solution in Outlook. It's engine is that of SpamBayes and is fully supported commercially. http://www.inboxer.com/ I'm NOT affiliated. It is but a suggestion. = ) Erik Brown -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 6:16 PM To: Johnnie Hutton Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] disappearing messages > I, as I'm sure most people do, replied to the link indicated in the > spambays > software, not to you personally. What is your point? > Your message is rude and unprofessional. My message had four words, and one hyperlink. How did I manage to be rude and unprofessional with such brevity? You emailed a public mailing list asking for volunteer help with using a free software product. I responded with a link to information that would explain what was going wrong, and how you could fix it. I can't see anything rude or unprofessional there. > If it were up to me, I would not > purchase this product again, You seem very confused. SpamBayes is a free, open-source, product. It's not available for purchase. > simply because of your attitude. I have it on > my home computer, but I won't renew. There are other programs that > serve > the same purpose, without the insults. You are, of course, welcome to use whatever software you like. Since you paid nothing for SpamBayes, you lose nothing by ceasing to use it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From barrier at fluegel.com Fri Sep 16 03:00:19 2005 From: barrier at fluegel.com (Steve Fluegel) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:00:19 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Help - BadIMAPResponseError in sb_imapfilter Message-ID: <005101c5ba5a$12f13db0$0a01a8c0@flogger2> Hello all. I'm trying to get the sb_imapfilter to talk to my mail server's IMAP interface, but I keep getting the same error. I'm using ActiveState's ActivePython 2.4 on XP SP2. My mail server is an Exchange 5.5 server. Printout below. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Steve C:\Python24\Scripts>python sb_imapfilter.py -v -l 5 -P -i 4 -t SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 1.1a1 (April 2005). Loading database C:\Documents and Settings\steve\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db... Loading state from C:\Documents and Settings\steve\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db database C:\Documents and Settings\steve\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db is an existing database, with 0 spam and 0 ham Done. Enter password for barrier: User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Account: mail.fluegel.com:143 26:42.47 > LCN1 LOGIN barrier "???????" 26:42.58 < LCN1 OK LOGIN completed. Training 26:42.58 > LCN2 SELECT INBOX 26:42.67 < * 82 EXISTS 26:42.67 < * 0 RECENT 26:42.67 < * FLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft) 26:42.67 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft)] 26:42.67 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 5511] UIDVALIDITY value. 26:42.69 < LCN2 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. Training ham folder INBOX 26:42.69 > LCN3 UID SEARCH UNDELETED 26:42.75 < * SEARCH 2 6 11 13 16 19 20 21 25 26 27 28 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 38 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 49 51 69 72 74 75 76 78 80 82 86 87 88 89 90 92 97 102 1 03 105 106 107 112 114 115 118 239 256 443 765 795 1070 1327 1613 2209 2778 2920 3504 4651 4730 6223 6259 6999 8095 8111 10719 10829 10850 10931 11085 11102 112 42 11546 11547 26:42.75 < LCN3 OK SEARCH completed. 26:42.75 > LCN4 UID FETCH 2 RFC822.HEADER 26:42.84 < * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {1020} 26:42.84 read literal size 1020 26:42.92 < UID 2) 26:42.92 < LCN4 OK FETCH completed. Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1203, in ? run() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 1181, in run imap_filter.Train() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 945, in Train num_trained = folder.Train(self.classifier, is_spam) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 829, in Train for msg in self: File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 740, in __iter__ yield self[key] File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 772, in __getitem__ data = self.imap_server.extract_fetch_data(response_data) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 399, in extract_fetch_data msg_data = self._extract_fetch_data(msg) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 372, in _extract_fetch_data raise BadIMAPResponseError("FETCH response", response) __main__.BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'FETCH response' failed to give an OK response. (' UID 2)',) C:\Python24\Scripts> From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 16 03:37:25 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:37:25 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Help! In-Reply-To: <0IMU00GHW2XCFB10@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <0IMU00GHW2XCFB10@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <4D32B6D7-E1CE-4ECE-9AE2-803AD2640C74@ihug.co.nz> > I installed Norton Internet security which comes with norton antispam. > > I was happy with spambayes so i disabled norton antispam and the > two played ok together. then all of a sudden spambayes stopped > working. I tried downloading the latest version and disabled norton > antispam after enabling it and still nothing. It looks like you're using Outlook (and so presumably the Outlook plug-in). If that isn't correct, please let us know which SpamBayes application you're using, and which version of Windows. If you are using Outlook, the most likely explanation is that Outlook has disabled the plug-in. Check Help->About Microsoft Outlook- >Disabled Items, and see if SpamBayes is there. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050916/64c38818/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 16 03:43:26 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:43:26 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.1a1 installation oddity In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1561C@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1561C@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: [menu item selection fixing snipped] > BUT - if I reinstall SpamBayes 1.1a1, welcome.html still comes up in > Notepad. [...] > No Python installed, but the remaining problem seems more likely to be > in the installer and/or my system configuration than with SpamBayes > itself. welcome.html gets opened by the Inno Setup installer, so I'm not sure exactly what it does. If I run the installer here (XP Pro SP2) it opens in Firefox, which is my default browser. So it does seem likely that it's something about your system. If it bothers you, then maybe googling for problems like this outside of SpamBayes, but with other Inno Setup installers might help. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 16 03:49:16 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:49:16 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and Public folders In-Reply-To: <927E509A89D58D42A6BA8506ADD559B402405F93@exchange.cbcr3.com> References: <927E509A89D58D42A6BA8506ADD559B402405F93@exchange.cbcr3.com> Message-ID: > I wasn?t sure where to post this question so please forgive me if > I?m in the wrong area?. This is the right place. > I saw a FAQ (I think) about spambayes not working with Exchange > public folders. The reason given was not that it couldn?t do it > but rather that it was not enabled as it was felt that spamybayes > was written specifically to cover mail items only. But many > exchange/outlook users put mail in public folder to facilitate easy > sharing of ?global? correspondence. If SpamBayes doesn't work with public folders, it's not by design. (I believe there's an open bug report about this, in fact). IIRC, the main issue when this was discussed in the past was permissions, because SpamBayes writes information to the message (to keep track of which ones have been classified). > I noticed that I can select public folders for spam review, but > Spambayes does not appear to recognize that theirs is mail in the > folders (probably because Exchange labels the folder contents as > ?notes?? ). SpamBayes does try to only filter mail, and not notes or any other Outlook item types (this *is* by design). Do the items in the public folder have to be items rather than mail? I don't have access to any public folders at the moment, but I thought that messages were mail items and not notes. Is this perhaps a folder setting? If this is the only reason that it's not working, then it would be easy enough to add an option to enable filtering of note items (assuming that filtering them will work). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From t.leeuwenburg at bom.gov.au Fri Sep 16 08:37:54 2005 From: t.leeuwenburg at bom.gov.au (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:37:54 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes as web input checker Message-ID: <432A6842.4000801@bom.gov.au> I have this project in mind . One thing that will happen is that users will submit paragraph-sized chunks of text. I thought of using SpamBayes as a way of filtering out the crap. Ideally (of course) I'd like a one-line call to a function which would just return True or False in reasonable time, and I'll get on with doing my thang. How easy would it be to hook SpamBayes into another python app along these lines? Cheers, -T From nicolas.forgeard-grignon at laposte.net Fri Sep 16 15:22:10 2005 From: nicolas.forgeard-grignon at laposte.net (Nicolas Forgeard-Grignon) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:22:10 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi all. Message-ID: <432AC702.3060504@laposte.net> I'm really intersted I your software for my costummer. But I need it in frech, can I help transtlating it? From ploprete at comcast.net Fri Sep 16 17:30:08 2005 From: ploprete at comcast.net (Loprete) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:30:08 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug? Message-ID: <000001c5bad3$86496570$6401a8c0@excelcior> Hi, I installed your spam application a couple of weeks ago. I had some difficulties with performance (slow download of email; then email not downloading at all, requiring me to reboot) and decided to uninstall it. The uninstall seemed successful, except I got a message that said not all components may have be removed and that I would need to do so manually. I continue to have intermittent problems with email downloading - and have to shut down Windows to restart and correct the problem. As part of the shut down, Windows tells me that a program called ThorConnWndClass is not responding and that it is shutting it down. It gives me the option of shutting it down immediately. Is this problem related to Spam Baye? Patrick Loprete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050916/debf21cd/attachment.htm From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 18:19:07 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:19:07 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug? In-Reply-To: <000001c5bad3$86496570$6401a8c0@excelcior> References: <000001c5bad3$86496570$6401a8c0@excelcior> Message-ID: <1f7befae050916091917497792@mail.gmail.com> [Loprete] > ... > I continue to have intermittent problems with email downloading ? and have > to shut down Windows to restart and correct the problem. As part of the > shut down, Windows tells me that a program called ThorConnWndClass is not > responding and that it is shutting it down. It gives me the option of > shutting it down immediately. > > Is this problem related to Spam Baye? Sorry, almost certainly not. Go to http://www.google.com and enter ThorConnWndClass in the search box. You'll get back links to hundreds of messages; sampling the links on the first page suggests many people have the same problem with it that you're having. It's an entry point in a Microsoft DLL. SpamBayes didn't/doesn't use it, although Outlook itself does. Yours is the first to mention ThorConnWndClass and SpamBayes in the same message ;-) You might want to try throwing away all messages on your email server. It's possible that some particularly nasty message is causing problems for Outlook, and that the problem will never go away while that message still exists on the server. If so, it's also possible that SpamBayes had nothing to do with the slowdown you first noticed. From jsp at PKC.com Fri Sep 16 18:19:03 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:19:03 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug? Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15637@PKCVT01.pkc.com> This may not have anything to do with SpamBayes; the ThorConnWndClass problem is widely reported, but nobody seems to have much idea what to do about it. (See, for instance, http://www.talkroot.com/tech/index.php/t-36421_Problems!!!!_ThorConnWndC lass.html, http://forums.techguy.org/printthread.php?threadid=114168, and http://www.adras.com/WWhat-is-ThorConnWndClass.t1754-4.html.) ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Loprete Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:30 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Bug? Hi, I installed your spam application a couple of weeks ago. I had some difficulties with performance (slow download of email; then email not downloading at all, requiring me to reboot) and decided to uninstall it. The uninstall seemed successful, except I got a message that said not all components may have be removed and that I would need to do so manually. I continue to have intermittent problems with email downloading - and have to shut down Windows to restart and correct the problem. As part of the shut down, Windows tells me that a program called ThorConnWndClass is not responding and that it is shutting it down. It gives me the option of shutting it down immediately. Is this problem related to Spam Baye? Patrick Loprete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050916/a7e6755f/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Fri Sep 16 21:14:02 2005 From: skip at pobox.com (skip@pobox.com) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:14:02 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes as web input checker In-Reply-To: <432A6842.4000801@bom.gov.au> References: <432A6842.4000801@bom.gov.au> Message-ID: <17195.6522.821126.208789@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tennessee> How easy would it be to hook SpamBayes into another python Tennessee> app along these lines? Not hard. Take a look at mod_spambayes.py in the contrib directory of the SpamBayes distribution. Skip From dave_tonner at cbcradio3.com Fri Sep 16 22:04:12 2005 From: dave_tonner at cbcradio3.com (Dave Tonner) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:04:12 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and Public folders Message-ID: <927E509A89D58D42A6BA8506ADD559B402405FD0@exchange.cbcr3.com> Hi Tony: Thanks for your note. Public folders exhibit strange behaviour! By default (unless you choose something else), a newly created public folder will accept "mail and post items" (as per your suggestion, this is a folder setting). If I create a new item in a mail and post items public folder - it always shows up as a 'post'. If I drag a mail item into the folder, it will show up as a mail item (as displayed by the item's icon). However, if I set up a rule to move mail items from my inbox to the public folder, the moved mail items show up as posts! It doesn't make sense! In any case, if I set Spambayes to check a public folder that contains only mail items (or a mixture of mail and post items for that matter), I get a message that there are no scanable items. Apparently Spambayes thinks all the items are notes. Regards, Dave David N. Tonner, P.Eng. Dave_Tonner at CBCRadio3.com Radio3 Operations Manager Tel: (604) 662-6415 CBC Radio 3 Fax: (604) 662-6372 VANCOUVER Cell:(604) 209-9793 ==================================== ************ CHECK OUT ************ CBCRadio3.com 120Seconds.com JustConcerts.com NewMusicCanada.com RootsMusicCanada.com ==================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Thu Sep 15, 05 6:49 PM > To: Dave Tonner > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes and Public folders > > > I wasn't sure where to post this question so please forgive me if > > I'm in the wrong area.... > > This is the right place. > > > I saw a FAQ (I think) about spambayes not working with Exchange > > public folders. The reason given was not that it couldn't do it > > but rather that it was not enabled as it was felt that spamybayes > > was written specifically to cover mail items only. But many > > exchange/outlook users put mail in public folder to facilitate easy > > sharing of 'global' correspondence. > > If SpamBayes doesn't work with public folders, it's not by design. > (I believe there's an open bug report about this, in fact). IIRC, > the main issue when this was discussed in the past was permissions, > because SpamBayes writes information to the message (to keep track of > which ones have been classified). > > > I noticed that I can select public folders for spam review, but > > Spambayes does not appear to recognize that theirs is mail in the > > folders (probably because Exchange labels the folder contents as > > 'notes'? ). > > SpamBayes does try to only filter mail, and not notes or any other > Outlook item types (this *is* by design). Do the items in the public > folder have to be items rather than mail? I don't have access to any > public folders at the moment, but I thought that messages were mail > items and not notes. Is this perhaps a folder setting? > > If this is the only reason that it's not working, then it would be > easy enough to add an option to enable filtering of note items > (assuming that filtering them will work). > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > From dave_tonner at cbcradio3.com Fri Sep 16 22:59:01 2005 From: dave_tonner at cbcradio3.com (Dave Tonner) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:59:01 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and Public folders Message-ID: <927E509A89D58D42A6BA8506ADD559B402405FD1@exchange.cbcr3.com> Hi again Tony: I'm afraid that I've missled you! Messages moved as a result of using rules on the inbox are not always tagged as posts in a public folder (they are sometimes though, and I can't re-create that condition right now). I tried manually filtering a public folder, and it works (independent of the folder's permission settings) but I'm not sure where the spam is going - unless it's going into the spam folder as 'read' - I need to check). I couldn't get this to work before so I'm not sure what I changed. In any case, the "mark as spam button' do not appear in the Spambayes tool bar when I'm viewing a public folder. On another front.... The folder's permission settings do appear to have an impact. I noticed that I can 'score' a message's spam rating if the folder permissions are set to allow full access, but if I try scoring folder items with limited access, I get a message that no filterable items were selected, so... I definitely have to change the folder permissions. So far so good! Thanks for your help so far. Regards, Dave Hi Tony: Thanks for your note. Public folders exhibit strange behaviour! By default (unless you choose something else), a newly created public folder will accept "mail and post items" (as per your suggestion, this is a folder setting). If I create a new item in a mail and post items public folder - it always shows up as a 'post'. If I drag a mail item into the folder, it will show up as a mail item (as displayed by the item's icon). However, if I set up a rule to move mail items from my inbox to the public folder, the moved mail items show up as posts! It doesn't make sense! In any case, if I set Spambayes to check a public folder that contains only mail items (or a mixture of mail and post items for that matter), I get a message that there are no scanable items. Apparently Spambayes thinks all the items are notes. Regards, Dave David N. Tonner, P.Eng. Dave_Tonner at CBCRadio3.com Radio3 Operations Manager Tel: (604) 662-6415 CBC Radio 3 Fax: (604) 662-6372 VANCOUVER Cell:(604) 209-9793 ==================================== ************ CHECK OUT ************ CBCRadio3.com 120Seconds.com JustConcerts.com NewMusicCanada.com RootsMusicCanada.com ==================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Thu Sep 15, 05 6:49 PM > To: Dave Tonner > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes and Public folders > > > I wasn't sure where to post this question so please forgive me if > > I'm in the wrong area.... > > This is the right place. > > > I saw a FAQ (I think) about Spambayes not working with Exchange > > public folders. The reason given was not that it couldn't do it > > but rather that it was not enabled as it was felt that Spambayes > > was written specifically to cover mail items only. But many > > exchange/outlook users put mail in public folder to facilitate easy > > sharing of 'global' correspondence. > > If SpamBayes doesn't work with public folders, it's not by design. > (I believe there's an open bug report about this, in fact). IIRC, > the main issue when this was discussed in the past was permissions, > because SpamBayes writes information to the message (to keep track of > which ones have been classified). > > > I noticed that I can select public folders for spam review, but > > Spambayes does not appear to recognize that theirs is mail in the > > folders (probably because Exchange labels the folder contents as > > 'notes'? ). > > SpamBayes does try to only filter mail, and not notes or any other > Outlook item types (this *is* by design). Do the items in the public > folder have to be items rather than mail? I don't have access to any > public folders at the moment, but I thought that messages were mail > items and not notes. Is this perhaps a folder setting? > > If this is the only reason that it's not working, then it would be > easy enough to add an option to enable filtering of note items > (assuming that filtering them will work). > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > From WduPont at dellaw.com Fri Sep 16 23:34:22 2005 From: WduPont at dellaw.com (Will du Pont) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:34:22 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Odd error message Message-ID: <550FBB93B2DC4F41B343D4475DE35381076E42@HDDSVR.hddlaw.local> Whenever I use the buttons "Delete As Spam" or "Recover from Spam" to do what they are designed for, I always have one or more email messages highlighted that I want to be moved to another box, either Spam or back to the Inbox. When I press the button the first time, nothing happens. When I press it again, the email(s) go where I want them but I get a message that says "No filterable mail items are selected." Then I have to click OK to get rid of that box. What does that mean and how to I get it to work right? Thanks. ---Will -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050916/04047c17/attachment.htm From kirebrow at yahoo.com Sat Sep 17 02:41:53 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:41:53 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up an 'fpfnunsure' regime that expired for Outlook? In-Reply-To: <1f7befae050916091917497792@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050916234154.HJOR12830.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Tim, I've been following your prior incremental testing and future TREC testing, as well as your great work on SpamBayes, for quite some time now and have a few questions. I am using Outlook and would like to use an 'fpfnunsure' regime that expired. How would I go about doing this? I know that there is a .py script specifically for outlook and other testing scripts (incremental.py, etc.) but I'm not sure exactly how to go about it. I also do not know how to expire data after 30 days. Is there a script for this as well? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Erik Brown From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Sep 17 04:34:21 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:34:21 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up an 'fpfnunsure' regime that expired for Outlook? In-Reply-To: <20050916234154.HJOR12830.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> References: <20050916234154.HJOR12830.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Message-ID: <9C8CEE8C-6E4C-4FDD-A28A-C7D2EC0F57EB@ihug.co.nz> > I am using Outlook and would like to use an 'fpfnunsure' regime that > expired. How would I go about doing this? Are you wanting to use this for testing, or for your actual day-to- day training? If you're wanting this for your day-to-day training, then there's nothing available. The Outlook plug-in keeps things as simple as possible, and is really designed for fpfnunsure only. There hasn't been any evidence (IIRC) that expiring messages is good, so none of the SpamBayes scripts have any support for it. > I know that there is a .py > script specifically for outlook and other testing scripts > (incremental.py, > etc.) but I'm not sure exactly how to go about it. I also do not > know how > to expire data after 30 days. Is there a script for this as well? If you're wanting to do testing, then you can certainly do testing with fpfnunsure and expiring. The export.py script in the Outlook2000 directory will export your mail from Outlook to the testing setup. Then sort+group.py in the testtools directory will split up and rename the mail, readying it for using with the incremental testing setup. Finally, incremental.py will run the incremental testing setup. The incredmental readme explains this in more detail, or ask if you want more help (I suspect this isn't what you're wanting to do, though). There isn't a regime setup for fpfnunsre with expiring, but it'd be easy enough to create one (in regimes.py in the testtools directory) - basically combining the fpfnunsure regime and one of the expire ones. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Sep 17 04:37:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:37:47 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Odd error message In-Reply-To: <550FBB93B2DC4F41B343D4475DE35381076E42@HDDSVR.hddlaw.local> References: <550FBB93B2DC4F41B343D4475DE35381076E42@HDDSVR.hddlaw.local> Message-ID: <926492A6-93C7-4A40-80AA-F05DCD136708@ihug.co.nz> > Whenever I use the buttons "Delete As Spam" or "Recover from Spam" > to do what they are designed for, I always have one or more email > messages highlighted that I want to be moved to another box, either > Spam or back to the Inbox. When I press the button the first time, > nothing happens. When I press it again, the email(s) go where I > want them but I get a message that says "No filterable mail items > are selected." Does this happen with any message, or just particular ones? SpamBayes should only work with received messages, and so tries to figure out which messages have been received and which haven't. Unfortunately, this is difficult to do, and there are occasional messages that, for whatever reason, fail to correctly match the criteria. There's an open bug report about this. You can add more information to that report if you like, but basically it's easy enough to just manually move these few rouge messages. If this is happening with all messages, then that's something different. In that case, it would probably help to see your log. Please do this again (to generate the log entries), then send us a copy of your most recent log file. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From dnemec at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 20:38:53 2005 From: dnemec at gmail.com (Dale Nemec) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 11:38:53 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Event ID 255 Error Message-ID: <000a01c5bbb7$0ed904c0$6401a8c0@WDALEN8> Hello, I searched thru the archives and didn't find any messages related to my issue, so here it is: I upgraded from version 1.0 to v1.0.4 last night, and now the SpamBayes service won't stay running. In my Event Viewer, I have the following error message in the Application log: The pop3proxy service failed with an unexpected error Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_service.pyc", line 171, in ServerThread File "sb_server.pyc", line 922, in start File "sb_server.pyc", line 898, in main File "sb_server.pyc", line 872, in _createProxies File "sb_server.pyc", line 363, in __init__ File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 281, in __init__ File "asyncore.pyc", line 299, in listen File "", line 1, in listen error: (10022, 'Invalid argument') The Event ID is 255. I've already uninstalled SpamBayes (via Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs), rebooted, and reinstalled. Still the same issue. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks! Dale -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050917/3c493354/attachment.html From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Sun Sep 18 04:45:43 2005 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:45:43 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Cancel multiple users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi. If someone executes the command to make SpamBayes available to all users on a PC, then later multiple users are not an issue, what's the safest way to get back to being able to access the COM Add-In from within Outlook? TIA - Bill H. -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 From kirebrow at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 05:51:59 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up an 'fpfnunsure' regime that expired for Outlook? In-Reply-To: <9C8CEE8C-6E4C-4FDD-A28A-C7D2EC0F57EB@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20050918025159.FUAS22439.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Tony, Thanks for the clarification on this. I recently "re-discovered" Skip's recursive training technique and I am applying this in real time with a customized config .ini and a TOE strategy and am getting *great* results so far. I've lowered the spam threshold during this initial training on real time mail to 50 because I get over 85% spam. This reduces the number of spams I have to trained until I can get more ham involved. This is the *best* way to train for Outlook users, so if you are interested more in this technique, go here: http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/SkipsRecursiveTrainingSetSelectionForOutlook Erik Brown -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:34 PM To: Erik Brown Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Setting up an 'fpfnunsure' regime that expired for Outlook? > I am using Outlook and would like to use an 'fpfnunsure' regime that > expired. How would I go about doing this? Are you wanting to use this for testing, or for your actual day-to- day training? If you're wanting this for your day-to-day training, then there's nothing available. The Outlook plug-in keeps things as simple as possible, and is really designed for fpfnunsure only. There hasn't been any evidence (IIRC) that expiring messages is good, so none of the SpamBayes scripts have any support for it. > I know that there is a .py > script specifically for outlook and other testing scripts > (incremental.py, > etc.) but I'm not sure exactly how to go about it. I also do not > know how > to expire data after 30 days. Is there a script for this as well? If you're wanting to do testing, then you can certainly do testing with fpfnunsure and expiring. The export.py script in the Outlook2000 directory will export your mail from Outlook to the testing setup. Then sort+group.py in the testtools directory will split up and rename the mail, readying it for using with the incremental testing setup. Finally, incremental.py will run the incremental testing setup. The incredmental readme explains this in more detail, or ask if you want more help (I suspect this isn't what you're wanting to do, though). There isn't a regime setup for fpfnunsre with expiring, but it'd be easy enough to create one (in regimes.py in the testtools directory) - basically combining the fpfnunsure regime and one of the expire ones. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From kirebrow at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 05:55:14 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:55:14 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 1.1a1 binary bug In-Reply-To: <926492A6-93C7-4A40-80AA-F05DCD136708@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20050918025515.FUXU22439.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Tony, FYI, I'm testing 1.1a1 binary for Outlook and the notifications unsure sound file resets to blank upon restart. I have not tested the other sounds. Erik Brown -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:38 PM To: Will du Pont Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Odd error message > Whenever I use the buttons "Delete As Spam" or "Recover from Spam" > to do what they are designed for, I always have one or more email > messages highlighted that I want to be moved to another box, either > Spam or back to the Inbox. When I press the button the first time, > nothing happens. When I press it again, the email(s) go where I > want them but I get a message that says "No filterable mail items > are selected." Does this happen with any message, or just particular ones? SpamBayes should only work with received messages, and so tries to figure out which messages have been received and which haven't. Unfortunately, this is difficult to do, and there are occasional messages that, for whatever reason, fail to correctly match the criteria. There's an open bug report about this. You can add more information to that report if you like, but basically it's easy enough to just manually move these few rouge messages. If this is happening with all messages, then that's something different. In that case, it would probably help to see your log. Please do this again (to generate the log entries), then send us a copy of your most recent log file. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Sep 18 04:53:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:53:19 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Cancel multiple users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > If someone executes the command to make SpamBayes available to > all users on a PC, then later multiple users are not an issue, > what's the safest way to get back to being able to access the COM > Add-In from within Outlook? Uninstall the plug-in (this leaves all your training and configuration untouched), which will remove both single-user and multiple-user registry keys. Then just run the installer to do the single-user install again (it will automatically resume using that user's existing training and configuration). (If you're happy using a command prompt, then you can just do the uninstall with the registration utility and do a single-user registration with it as well, but the above will work fine). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From sales at helyholdings.com Sun Sep 18 08:32:00 2005 From: sales at helyholdings.com (Hely Holdings Pty Ltd (Sales Dept.)) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:32:00 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question Message-ID: Hi Tony. Back in August 2004 you kindly critiqued a spam chapter for me from my security book "The Hacker's Nightmare". I am gearing up for a new edition of THN and will be expanding the spam section a fair bit in the process. I deal only with the Outlook plug-in. At this time I would like to know if you have changed your opinion on training since then. Here's what you said in a message to me on August 10, 2004 after reading my draft chapter. ---------- BEGIN QUOTE ---------- Training is a difficult issue to write about. The problem is that not enough is yet known about the best ways to train, and that the Outlook plug-in really only facilitates a couple of different methods. However, it is almost certain that 'train on everything' is a bad idea, that smaller databases are generally better than large ones, and that imbalances are bad. These are not hard rules. Your training described has a huge imbalance, and is a pretty large database, and is (at least initially) train-on-everything, and yet I presume you have had good results or you wouldn't be writing this. In general, though, based on both testing and feedback from users, the above is true. I believe that the best training method to recommend to people using the plug-in is: * Don't do *any* initial training. (Everything will now end up in the 'unsure' folder.) * Train on *everything* that ends up in the 'unsure' folder. At first, this will be a lot of mail, but it will rapidly reduce. * Train on *all* mistakes (at first, there may be some false positives/false negatives, but these will even more rapidly reduce). Once 10-20 mails of each type have been trained, the system should be very accurate. ---------- END QUOTE ---------- For my target audience I need to make all explanations and instructions as simple as possible. If I started describing techniques like Seth Goodman's "Recursive Training Set Selection For Outlook" I'd have them throwing up out of fear and confusion. I basically distilled your advice down to "do no pre-training at all - train only on the UNSURE folder". While that seems to work fine and has been well received, it was after all a year and several releases ago. Where do you stand on training these days, for people who simply will not or cannot follow a complicated set of instructions. Best regards, - Bill H. -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 From kirebrow at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 10:17:17 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:17:17 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050918071717.EHKG8241.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Bill, I would say that the training has not changed. Since you last asked Tony about training, no major modifications were done (or needed) and there have been a lot of tweaks to catch more spam, and are realized my modifying the default_bayes_customize.ini file. IMHO, I would tell your users to replace the default_bayes_customize.ini with my settings below *smile*, as I found that more tokens the better for my mail stream. All you have to say is, "train only on unsures with no initial training". This way they will only train on current messages and with a buffed .ini file, that is all they would ever need. With the below settings I am able to distinguish PayPal phishing scams in 3 trains... ----------------------------------------- [Classifier] x-use_bigrams: True max_discriminators: 150 [Tokenizer] replace_nonascii_chars: True record_header_absence: True x-fancy_url_recognition: True x-pick_apart_urls: True x-reduce_habeas_headers: True x-search_for_habeas_headers: True basic_header_tokenize: True basic_header_skip: date x-.* domainkey-signature check_octets: True octet_prefix_size: 5 mine_received_headers: True address_headers: from sender reply-to errors-to generate_long_skips: True summarize_email_prefixes: True summarize_email_suffixes: True skip_max_word_size: 50 [URLRetriever] x-cache_directory: url-cache x-cache_expiry_days: 31 x-only_slurp_base: True x-slurp_urls: True x-web_prefix:web: ----------------------------------------- Erik Brown -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Hely Holdings Pty Ltd (Sales Dept.) Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 1:32 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question Hi Tony. Back in August 2004 you kindly critiqued a spam chapter for me from my security book "The Hacker's Nightmare". I am gearing up for a new edition of THN and will be expanding the spam section a fair bit in the process. I deal only with the Outlook plug-in. At this time I would like to know if you have changed your opinion on training since then. Here's what you said in a message to me on August 10, 2004 after reading my draft chapter. ---------- BEGIN QUOTE ---------- Training is a difficult issue to write about. The problem is that not enough is yet known about the best ways to train, and that the Outlook plug-in really only facilitates a couple of different methods. However, it is almost certain that 'train on everything' is a bad idea, that smaller databases are generally better than large ones, and that imbalances are bad. These are not hard rules. Your training described has a huge imbalance, and is a pretty large database, and is (at least initially) train-on-everything, and yet I presume you have had good results or you wouldn't be writing this. In general, though, based on both testing and feedback from users, the above is true. I believe that the best training method to recommend to people using the plug-in is: * Don't do *any* initial training. (Everything will now end up in the 'unsure' folder.) * Train on *everything* that ends up in the 'unsure' folder. At first, this will be a lot of mail, but it will rapidly reduce. * Train on *all* mistakes (at first, there may be some false positives/false negatives, but these will even more rapidly reduce). Once 10-20 mails of each type have been trained, the system should be very accurate. ---------- END QUOTE ---------- For my target audience I need to make all explanations and instructions as simple as possible. If I started describing techniques like Seth Goodman's "Recursive Training Set Selection For Outlook" I'd have them throwing up out of fear and confusion. I basically distilled your advice down to "do no pre-training at all - train only on the UNSURE folder". While that seems to work fine and has been well received, it was after all a year and several releases ago. Where do you stand on training these days, for people who simply will not or cannot follow a complicated set of instructions. Best regards, - Bill H. -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 _______________________________________________ Spambayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From kirebrow at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 10:23:40 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:23:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050918072340.EHPW8241.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> I forgot to mention they must train on all false negatives and positives as well. Erik Brown -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Hely Holdings Pty Ltd (Sales Dept.) Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 1:32 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question Hi Tony. Back in August 2004 you kindly critiqued a spam chapter for me from my security book "The Hacker's Nightmare". I am gearing up for a new edition of THN and will be expanding the spam section a fair bit in the process. I deal only with the Outlook plug-in. At this time I would like to know if you have changed your opinion on training since then. Here's what you said in a message to me on August 10, 2004 after reading my draft chapter. ---------- BEGIN QUOTE ---------- Training is a difficult issue to write about. The problem is that not enough is yet known about the best ways to train, and that the Outlook plug-in really only facilitates a couple of different methods. However, it is almost certain that 'train on everything' is a bad idea, that smaller databases are generally better than large ones, and that imbalances are bad. These are not hard rules. Your training described has a huge imbalance, and is a pretty large database, and is (at least initially) train-on-everything, and yet I presume you have had good results or you wouldn't be writing this. In general, though, based on both testing and feedback from users, the above is true. I believe that the best training method to recommend to people using the plug-in is: * Don't do *any* initial training. (Everything will now end up in the 'unsure' folder.) * Train on *everything* that ends up in the 'unsure' folder. At first, this will be a lot of mail, but it will rapidly reduce. * Train on *all* mistakes (at first, there may be some false positives/false negatives, but these will even more rapidly reduce). Once 10-20 mails of each type have been trained, the system should be very accurate. ---------- END QUOTE ---------- For my target audience I need to make all explanations and instructions as simple as possible. If I started describing techniques like Seth Goodman's "Recursive Training Set Selection For Outlook" I'd have them throwing up out of fear and confusion. I basically distilled your advice down to "do no pre-training at all - train only on the UNSURE folder". While that seems to work fine and has been well received, it was after all a year and several releases ago. Where do you stand on training these days, for people who simply will not or cannot follow a complicated set of instructions. Best regards, - Bill H. -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 _______________________________________________ Spambayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Sep 18 10:37:16 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:37:16 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8AC9810F-9ADA-4E2B-89DC-193AD9FE6315@ihug.co.nz> > At this time I would like to know if you have changed your > opinion on training since then. Here's what you said in a message > to me on August 10, 2004 after reading my draft chapter. [...] Yes, I would stick to what I said then. I would perhaps add that after time it is probably worth adjusting the thresholds, so that not quite as much ends up in the unsure folder, but maybe that's too advanced. > I basically distilled your advice down to "do no pre-training at > all - train only on the UNSURE folder". *And* any mistakes. > Where do you stand on training these days, for people who simply > will not or cannot follow a complicated set of instructions. It still seems that 'fpfnunsure' (all mistakes and unsures) gives generally good results with SpamBayes, and it's certainly the easiest method to use with the Outlook plug-in. I would (and do) still recommend it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Sep 18 10:58:12 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:58:12 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question In-Reply-To: <20050918071717.EHKG8241.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> References: <20050918071717.EHKG8241.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Message-ID: > IMHO, I would tell your users to replace the > default_bayes_customize.ini > with my settings below *smile*, as I found that more tokens the > better for > my mail stream. This certainly falls outside the realm of simple, however. I'm also not convinced that all of these options are good for everyone (or they would default to 'on'). Enabling all the options is also not something I'd recommend. As part of the 2005 TREC spam track, one of the SpamBayes runs submitted included enabling all boolean options (except the slurping ones). Results from TREC aren't complete yet, but initial testing indicates that this run performs worse than running with defaults. [...] > [Classifier] > > x-use_bigrams: True *Most* tests have indicated that the windowing bi-gram scheme is better than straight unigrams. There have been a few cases where this was not true, however. It does also vastly increase the database size. It's certainly a good technique (and in 1.1 is no longer experimental), and if people are going to go to the effort of customizing the tokenization/classification options, this would be the best choice. > max_discriminators: 150 This is already the default, so isn't needed (it has no effect). > replace_nonascii_chars: True > record_header_absence: True These two are specifically enabled in the Outlook plug-in by default (although including them in the file is necessary if it's replaced). replace_nonascii_chars is probably a bad idea for anyone that receives non-English ham, and probably a good idea for anyone else. record_header_absence has also had mixed results. > x-fancy_url_recognition: True > x-pick_apart_urls: True These are experimental options; as such they haven't had the extensive testing that other options have. It's not clear yet whether these are a good idea for any user or not. > x-reduce_habeas_headers: True > x-search_for_habeas_headers: True It's pretty clear that Habeas's headers are a failed experiement. These options probably aren't worth including, and are likely to be removed in a future release. > basic_header_tokenize: True > basic_header_skip: date x-.* domainkey-signature Testing hasn't shown that basic_header_tokenize is a good idea. Is there a reason you turned it on? > octet_prefix_size: 5 This is the default; it will have no effect. > mine_received_headers: True As long as the training data is from the user, this should help. > address_headers: from sender reply-to errors-to I don't have any testing to hand about this, but I doubt that removing "to" and "cc" from the headers that are tokenized is a good idea. For me, at least, the data in the "to" and "cc" headers is definitely a good indicator of whether the message is ham/spam; I would expect this would be the case for many people. Adding errors- to might help; I don't know if any testing has been done on that. > generate_long_skips: True This is the default; it will have no effect. > skip_max_word_size: 50 I believe that (in the early days) there was a lot of testing to determine what the best minimum and maximum token sizes were. 50 is a *lot* better than the default 12 - do you really have many strong tokens longer than 12? > [URLRetriever] > > x-cache_directory: url-cache > x-cache_expiry_days: 31 > x-only_slurp_base: True > x-slurp_urls: True > x-web_prefix:web: I would not recommend enabling these without understanding what they do. The main issue is that as a result of enabling them, SpamBayes will be downloading a lot of extra material - for those where connection speed or bandwidth are issues, this might not be a good step. It's also not at all clear that they are beneficial - without the only_slurp_base option, testing generally indicates good results, but that means that any 'bugs' will be triggered. With the only_slurp_base option, results are mixed, leaning towards negative. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Sep 18 11:02:27 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:02:27 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Event ID 255 Error In-Reply-To: <000a01c5bbb7$0ed904c0$6401a8c0@WDALEN8> References: <000a01c5bbb7$0ed904c0$6401a8c0@WDALEN8> Message-ID: <751F60B9-C43A-43EC-9BBE-FEEEC3AB8FB1@ihug.co.nz> > I upgraded from version 1.0 to v1.0.4 last night, and now the > SpamBayes service won't stay running. In my Event Viewer, I have > the following error message in the Application log: [...] > File "sb_server.pyc", line 872, in _createProxies [...] > File "", line 1, in listen > > error: (10022, 'Invalid argument') My best guess would be that the configuration is bad (although I don't know why this wouldn't have been a problem with 1.0 as well). Open up the bayescustomize.ini file (e.g. in notepad) and check what it is for the server_name and listen_port values. Alternatively, rename the bayescustomize.ini file, see if it starts up, and if it does, it's definitely at fault (so you can either try to find the bad entry, or just reconfigure). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Sep 18 11:04:57 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:04:57 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi all. In-Reply-To: <432AC702.3060504@laposte.net> References: <432AC702.3060504@laposte.net> Message-ID: <909BBA25-2AE8-4D55-BBF5-CDA9AEC924C8@ihug.co.nz> > I'm really intersted I your software for my costummer. > But I need it in frech, can I help transtlating it? Absolutely. 1.1a1 includes a partial French translation, but it needs to be finished. Every time someone asks about translation I explain where the information about how to do it is, and what needs to be done and nothing happens. So, in case I'm scaring them away, I'll just say that it's simple to do and any help would be welcome. If you do want to do this, then let us know how you'd like to go about it. If you're using the Outlook plug-in, feel free to download 1.1a1 and see how far the translation has got. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Sep 18 11:08:48 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:08:48 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter connection timeout handling In-Reply-To: <200509141540.11975.spambayes@klaashofstra.com> References: <200509141540.11975.spambayes@klaashofstra.com> Message-ID: <227499F4-AB4C-4CF5-941F-254CEB97736A@ihug.co.nz> > For some reason the connection to my IMAP server is regularly > closed down due > to a timeout. sb_imapfilter does not seem to handle this well, > because it > exits with the text at the bottom of this mail (debug set to -i 4). > Shouldn't > sb_imapfilter be able to gracefully handle this timeout by stopping > the > current action, closing down the connection, reopening the > connection and > continuing? Yes. If you'd like to submit a patch to do this, that would be great <0.5 wink>. If coding isn't your thing, then the best thing would probably be to open a feature request for this on sourceforge: > Could a timeout lead to corrupted mail? I ask this because after > running the > filter I ended up with some mail with 'unknown' arrival date and > some with > 'unknown' sender. The traceback you provided was interrupted in the middle of adding a message to the server, so, yes, you could end up with odd looking messages, depending on how your IMAP server handles that (IMO, it really ought to only create the message when the transaction is successfully complete). 1.1's IMAP filter does less of the 'rewriting', so this would hopefully be less of a problem with that. > If I understand correctly a filtered mail is recreated with the new > header and > the old mail is removed. Is the deletion done after it is affirmed > that the > recreated copy was successfully created? Yes. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Sep 18 11:14:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:14:46 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15610@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15610@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <79A4DE0F-A950-404D-8E64-480778244661@ihug.co.nz> >> Thanks for the help Jesse. I followed your directions, but here's >> the error message I get everytime I try to retrieve mail via >> Outlook Express >> "The server responded with an error. Account: 'PeoplePC Online', >> Server: 'localhost', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '-ERR >> Service not available (server error)', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, >> Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC90" > > I could be wrong, but I don't think the current version of > SpamBayes (1.0.4) supports a secure connection to your mail server. I don't believe that this is the problem there. It has SSL: No, so doesn't appear to be trying to make a secure connection (if it was, then yes, 1.1a1 or something like stunnel is necessary; however, 1.1a1 isn't a good choice for sb_server users). Googling for 0x800CCC90 indicates that this is a bad username/ password error (although it's odd that OE didn't just do the normal bad username/password thing). I would recommend: 1. Reentering the username and password, ensuring that they are correct (they should be exactly the same as when connecting directly to the mail server). 2. Checking that the name of the mail server you entered in the spambayes configuration (something like pop.peoplepc.com or mail.peoplepc.com or pop3.peoplepc.com, probably) is the correct address for the POP server. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Sep 18 11:14:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:14:46 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15610@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15610@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <79A4DE0F-A950-404D-8E64-480778244661@ihug.co.nz> >> Thanks for the help Jesse. I followed your directions, but here's >> the error message I get everytime I try to retrieve mail via >> Outlook Express >> "The server responded with an error. Account: 'PeoplePC Online', >> Server: 'localhost', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '-ERR >> Service not available (server error)', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, >> Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC90" > > I could be wrong, but I don't think the current version of > SpamBayes (1.0.4) supports a secure connection to your mail server. I don't believe that this is the problem there. It has SSL: No, so doesn't appear to be trying to make a secure connection (if it was, then yes, 1.1a1 or something like stunnel is necessary; however, 1.1a1 isn't a good choice for sb_server users). Googling for 0x800CCC90 indicates that this is a bad username/ password error (although it's odd that OE didn't just do the normal bad username/password thing). I would recommend: 1. Reentering the username and password, ensuring that they are correct (they should be exactly the same as when connecting directly to the mail server). 2. Checking that the name of the mail server you entered in the spambayes configuration (something like pop.peoplepc.com or mail.peoplepc.com or pop3.peoplepc.com, probably) is the correct address for the POP server. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From kirebrow at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 12:31:21 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 05:31:21 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050918093122.WAOA14536.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> > Enabling all the options is also not something I'd recommend. As > part of the 2005 TREC spam track, one of the SpamBayes runs submitted > included enabling all boolean options (except the slurping ones). > Results from TREC aren't complete yet, but initial testing indicates > that this run performs worse than running with defaults. Outstanding information! When will the TREC test data be available for review concerning SpamBayes and the different runs with different options? > x-reduce_habeas_headers: True > x-search_for_habeas_headers: True > It's pretty clear that Habeas's headers are a failed experiement. > These options probably aren't worth including, and are likely to be > removed in a future release. Thanks for the info. > basic_header_tokenize: True > basic_header_skip: date x-.* domainkey-signature > Testing hasn't shown that basic_header_tokenize is a good idea. Is > there a reason you turned it on? Yes. The reason I enabled this option is because I am filtering essentially two different pop3 accounts (one is forwarded to my main account). One is virtually all spam (my client), the other all ham (my personal account), so I've found this beneficial to my personal mail stream. Before when I did not have this option enabled, when a ham source forwarded a spam, it was classified as spam. Now with header tokenize on, this is not the case. I've also found that this helps tremendously with nailing phishing scams as well. > address_headers: from sender reply-to errors-to > I don't have any testing to hand about this, but I doubt that > removing "to" and "cc" from the headers that are tokenized is a good > idea. For me, at least, the data in the "to" and "cc" headers is > definitely a good indicator of whether the message is ham/spam; I > would expect this would be the case for many people. Adding errors- > to might help; I don't know if any testing has been done on that. > generate_long_skips: True Ya, I found out later that this option did nothing. As soon as you enable basic_header_tokenize: True it will add "to" and "cc" ect...which I found is a really good indicator like you said. Does this mean I can take this out? This is the default; it will have no effect. > skip_max_word_size: 50 > I believe that (in the early days) there was a lot of testing to > determine what the best minimum and maximum token sizes were. 50 is > a *lot* better than the default 12 - do you really have many strong > tokens longer than 12? LOL! The reason I set it to 50 was because I read some good advice on the mailing list about the longest English word was very close to 50 characters and some good clues may be had if it was set higher. I've noticed that some of the words in the "spammer salad" to throw off filters has characters over 12. Thoughts on this? > [URLRetriever] > > x-cache_directory: url-cache > x-cache_expiry_days: 31 > x-only_slurp_base: True > x-slurp_urls: True > x-web_prefix:web: > I would not recommend enabling these without understanding what they > do. The main issue is that as a result of enabling them, SpamBayes > will be downloading a lot of extra material - for those where > connection speed or bandwidth are issues, this might not be a good > step. It's also not at all clear that they are beneficial - without > the only_slurp_base option, testing generally indicates good results, > but that means that any 'bugs' will be triggered. With the > only_slurp_base option, results are mixed, leaning towards negative. Again, thank you for the info! Erik Brown From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Sun Sep 18 11:59:15 2005 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:59:15 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question In-Reply-To: <8AC9810F-9ADA-4E2B-89DC-193AD9FE6315@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: Thanks Tony. Much appreciated. - Bill H. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 6:37 PM > To: sales at technology.cc > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question > > > > At this time I would like to know if you have changed your > > opinion on training since then. Here's what you said in a message > > to me on August 10, 2004 after reading my draft chapter. > [...] > > Yes, I would stick to what I said then. I would perhaps add that > after time it is probably worth adjusting the thresholds, so > that not > quite as much ends up in the unsure folder, but maybe that's too > advanced. > > > I basically distilled your advice down to "do no pre-training at > > all - train only on the UNSURE folder". > > *And* any mistakes. > > > Where do you stand on training these days, for people who simply > > will not or cannot follow a complicated set of instructions. > It still seems that 'fpfnunsure' (all mistakes and unsures) gives > generally good results with SpamBayes, and it's certainly the > easiest > method to use with the Outlook plug-in. I would (and do) still > recommend it. > > =Tony.Meyer -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Mon Sep 19 03:09:17 2005 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:09:17 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam score confusion Message-ID: RE: Outlook Plug-in I have implemented the display of the spam score column in Outlook. When I "Show spam clues for current message", the "Combined Score" thus revealed never matches the percentage shown in Outlook's "Spam" column. I can't find any figure in the "clues for current message" that matches the percentage in the Outlook column. Can someone explain please. TIA - Bill H. -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 From kirebrow at yahoo.com Mon Sep 19 12:38:53 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:38:53 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam score confusion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050919093853.BIOA4982.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Bill, Make sure you are following these steps to create the Spam field: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outlook 2000/about.html#Installing_and_Configuring Also make sure that you filter all the messages after training by going to filter messages, browse the folders to filter in, then select "score messages, but don't perform filter action". What this does is update all of the scores after you train. Erik Brown -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Bill Hely Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 8:09 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spam score confusion RE: Outlook Plug-in I have implemented the display of the spam score column in Outlook. When I "Show spam clues for current message", the "Combined Score" thus revealed never matches the percentage shown in Outlook's "Spam" column. I can't find any figure in the "clues for current message" that matches the percentage in the Outlook column. Can someone explain please. TIA - Bill H. -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 _______________________________________________ Spambayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Amanda at accredo.co.nz Mon Sep 19 06:44:32 2005 From: Amanda at accredo.co.nz (Amanda Hubley) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:44:32 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Unread Messages Bug Message-ID: <003301c5bcd4$d4bfb7b0$e37ba8c0@accredo.co.nz> Hi I have attached the version of windows and SpamBayes as image files. I have set the program to mark my junkmail as read. However the icon that normally shows for unread mail next to the system time in the bottom right hand side of the screen shows when there is no unread mail in my outlook. I have now found that if I highlight a bunch of the junkmail and mark as read it seems to fix it. 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Name: WindowsVersion.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 95096 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050919/869ebd58/WindowsVersion-0001.jpg From WduPont at dellaw.com Mon Sep 19 16:17:22 2005 From: WduPont at dellaw.com (Will du Pont) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:17:22 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Odd error message Message-ID: <550FBB93B2DC4F41B343D4475DE35381076E45@HDDSVR.hddlaw.local> This happens with all messages, whether I highlight one or the whole batch. 95% of the messages I try to move (Well, I actually do move but I always get the odd message ""No filterable mail items are selected") are in the Maybe Spam folder. Sometimes I'll move a message that went to Spam into Inbox or one that stayed in Inbox to Spam, but I always still get the message. I read FAQ 5.7 but it didn't help. I have SpamBayes set to only filter the Inbox (Outlook 2003 BTW). I have the "Enable background filtering" box checked. Does that have anything to do with it? How do I send you a copy of my most recent log file? Thanks for your reply, and help. --Will -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: 09/16/2005 10:38 PM To: Will du Pont Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Odd error message > Whenever I use the buttons "Delete As Spam" or "Recover from Spam" > to do what they are designed for, I always have one or more email > messages highlighted that I want to be moved to another box, either > Spam or back to the Inbox. When I press the button the first time, > nothing happens. When I press it again, the email(s) go where I > want them but I get a message that says "No filterable mail items > are selected." Does this happen with any message, or just particular ones? SpamBayes should only work with received messages, and so tries to figure out which messages have been received and which haven't. Unfortunately, this is difficult to do, and there are occasional messages that, for whatever reason, fail to correctly match the criteria. There's an open bug report about this. You can add more information to that report if you like, but basically it's easy enough to just manually move these few rouge messages. If this is happening with all messages, then that's something different. In that case, it would probably help to see your log. Please do this again (to generate the log entries), then send us a copy of your most recent log file. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From jsp at PKC.com Mon Sep 19 16:55:48 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:55:48 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Odd error message Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1563D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Could this be the old Outlook-fails-to-update-the-window bug? On my machine, messages often remain displayed in the message pane after I've used a SpamBayes button to classify them. However, they've actually been moved to the appropriate destination, as I can verify by clicking the corresponding folder. (Actually, even clicking the currently selected folder again seems to force the display to be refreshed, at which point the moved messages are no longer listed.) What happens if you follow the same procedure? This seems to happen only with certain Outlook installations. It never happened on my machine until I installed Service Pack 2 for Windows XP. It's a mild annoyance now that I understand how it's behaving, though it would certainly be nice if we could find a way to make this reproducible so it could be fixed or worked around. SP2 seems to have introduced other, similar Outlook problems unrelated to SpamBayes, so I'm inclined to suspect that the problem is Outlook rather than SpamBayes. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Will du Pont > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:17 AM > To: Tony Meyer > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Odd error message > > This happens with all messages, whether I highlight one or the whole > batch. 95% of the messages I try to move (Well, I actually > do move but > I always get the odd message ""No filterable mail items are selected") > are in the Maybe Spam folder. Sometimes I'll move a message that went > to Spam into Inbox or one that stayed in Inbox to Spam, but I always > still get the message. > > I read FAQ 5.7 but it didn't help. I have SpamBayes set to > only filter > the Inbox (Outlook 2003 BTW). > > I have the "Enable background filtering" box checked. Does that have > anything to do with it? > > How do I send you a copy of my most recent log file? > > Thanks for your reply, and help. > > --Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] > Sent: 09/16/2005 10:38 PM > To: Will du Pont > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Odd error message > > > Whenever I use the buttons "Delete As Spam" or "Recover from Spam" > > to do what they are designed for, I always have one or more email > > messages highlighted that I want to be moved to another > box, either > > Spam or back to the Inbox. When I press the button the > first time, > > nothing happens. When I press it again, the email(s) go where I > > want them but I get a message that says "No filterable mail items > > are selected." > > Does this happen with any message, or just particular ones? > SpamBayes should only work with received messages, and so tries to > figure out which messages have been received and which haven't. > Unfortunately, this is difficult to do, and there are occasional > messages that, for whatever reason, fail to correctly match the > criteria. There's an open bug report about this. You can add more > information to that report if you like, but basically it's easy > enough to just manually move these few rouge messages. > > If this is happening with all messages, then that's something > different. In that case, it would probably help to see your log. > Please do this again (to generate the log entries), then send us a > copy of your most recent log file. > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in > your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From Torgny.Hofstedt at 7L.se Mon Sep 19 19:08:52 2005 From: Torgny.Hofstedt at 7L.se (Torgny Hofstedt) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:08:52 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Race condition between SpamBays and AVG Anti-Virus Message-ID: <200509191708.j8JH8sHe001428@sheol.7L.se> Hello, After installing SpamBay v1.0.4 and then when I receive a mail with a virus in it that is detected by the AVG Anti-Virus (v7.0 and 6) the mail is regenerated continuously in my inbox. I've experienced this on three systems. The mail client is outlook 2000 and 2003 using IMAP on W2k and XP. When this happen I've to kill outlook start it again and remove the mail with the virus before SpamBays starts filtering. For all other mails everything works as expected. I don't know which product is in error. Have anyone else had similar experiences? Regards, Torgny... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050919/4d2eb7a8/attachment.htm From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Tue Sep 20 00:59:33 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:59:33 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Odd error message Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50048733DF@SPIKE.city> Could this be related to that perennial problem of messages not getting filtered the first time through? This has been a nuisance for me almost since the beginning of Spambayes, and it didn't get any better when I switched from Outlook 2000 to Outlook 2002. Maybe Will du Pont's symptom occurs when he selects a message that's clearly spam but somehow escaped being classified as it entered the Inbox. If so, initiating a second scan manually ought to clear it up. Bob (Sorry if this message appears twice. I meant to send it from home yesterday, but don't think I actually did so.) > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:38 PM > To: Will du Pont > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Odd error message > > > > Whenever I use the buttons "Delete As Spam" or "Recover from Spam" > > to do what they are designed for, I always have one or more email > > messages highlighted that I want to be moved to another box, either > > Spam or back to the Inbox. When I press the button the first time, > > nothing happens. When I press it again, the email(s) go where I > > want them but I get a message that says "No filterable mail items > > are selected." > > Does this happen with any message, or just particular ones? > SpamBayes should only work with received messages, and so tries to > figure out which messages have been received and which haven't. > Unfortunately, this is difficult to do, and there are occasional > messages that, for whatever reason, fail to correctly match the > criteria. There's an open bug report about this. You can add more > information to that report if you like, but basically it's easy > enough to just manually move these few rouge messages. > > If this is happening with all messages, then that's something > different. In that case, it would probably help to see your log. > Please do this again (to generate the log entries), then send us a > copy of your most recent log file. > > =Tony.Meyer From Inbox at application-centre.com Tue Sep 20 01:37:33 2005 From: Inbox at application-centre.com (Inbox) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:37:33 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Can you help me? within the contecxt of microsoft - Is spam bayes an MS exchange product or a plugin for outlook? Message-ID: the following was published and I wondered if you could calkrify WRT spambayes. - - - - 'SpamBayes and SpamAssasin are free and Open Source, and SpamBayes is also available as an Outlook plugin for use with non-Exchange standalone systems.' Thank You Paul Corcoran -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050920/60f23163/attachment.htm From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Tue Sep 20 06:53:25 2005 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 14:53:25 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam score confusion In-Reply-To: <20050919093853.BIOA4982.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Message-ID: Thanks Erik. It was the "score messages, but don't perform filter action" bit that did the trick. The spam scores are now synchronized. - Bill H. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Erik Brown > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:39 PM > To: bill.hely at helyholdings.com; spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam score confusion > > > Bill, > > Make sure you are following these steps to create the Spam field: > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spa > mbayes/Outlook > 2000/about.html#Installing_and_Configuring > > Also make sure that you filter all the messages after > training by going to > filter messages, browse the folders to filter in, then select "score > messages, but don't perform filter action". What this does > is update all of > the scores after you train. > > Erik Brown > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On > Behalf Of Bill Hely > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 8:09 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Spam score confusion > > > RE: Outlook Plug-in > > I have implemented the display of the spam score column in > Outlook. > > When I "Show spam clues for current message", the "Combined > Score" thus revealed never matches the percentage shown in > Outlook's "Spam" column. I can't find any figure in the "clues > for current message" that matches the percentage in the Outlook > column. > > Can someone explain please. > > TIA > - Bill H. -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 19/09/2005 From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Tue Sep 20 13:56:09 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:56:09 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Can you help me? within the contecxt of microsoft - Isspam bayes an MS exchange product or a plugin for outlook? Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50048733E5@SPIKE.city> By design, Spambayes, in all of its manifestations, is a client-side utility. One of those manifestations is an Outlook plugin, which makes sense because Outlook is itself a mail client. Some people have tried to rejigger Spambayes to function as a server-side spam filter for Exchange and other mail servers, but I'm not aware that any of those efforts have been wildly successful. That said, Spambayes works almost as well in Outlook as an Exchange client as it does in stand-alone Outlook. There are some timing issues, notably involving server-side Outlook rules, which can preempt Spambayes filtering with annoying results, but these issues are quite workable. (Actually, Spambayes has different, but almost as annoying, timing issues with standalone Outlook.) I've been using Spambayes in an Exchange environment for more than two years and plan to continue to do so. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org] On Behalf Of Inbox Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:38 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Can you help me? within the contecxt of microsoft - Isspam bayes an MS exchange product or a plugin for outlook? the following was published and I wondered if you could calkrify WRT spambayes. - - - - 'SpamBayes and SpamAssasin are free and Open Source, and SpamBayes is also available as an Outlook plugin for use with non-Exchange standalone systems.' Thank You Paul Corcoran -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050920/0b413ce8/attachment.htm From WduPont at dellaw.com Tue Sep 20 15:28:57 2005 From: WduPont at dellaw.com (Will du Pont) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:28:57 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Odd error message Message-ID: <550FBB93B2DC4F41B343D4475DE35381076E4F@HDDSVR.hddlaw.local> You got it! When I click on the SpamBayes button to move a message, it apparently moves but Outlook does not refresh. I just moved 2 messages from Maybe Spam, separately, one at a time. When I clicked to have the first one moved to Spam, nothing happened (that I could see). When I highlighted the second message and clicked to move it to Spam, they both disappeared from the Outlook view (and went to Spam). So, there's definitely a glitch there, but at least I know what's happening now. Thanks for the help. I never had this problem when I was using SpamBayes with Windows NT4 a few years ago, although toward the end of my NT period I could not use SpamBayes at all for some reason. --Will -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: 09/19/2005 10:56 AM To: Will du Pont; Tony Meyer Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Odd error message Could this be the old Outlook-fails-to-update-the-window bug? On my machine, messages often remain displayed in the message pane after I've used a SpamBayes button to classify them. However, they've actually been moved to the appropriate destination, as I can verify by clicking the corresponding folder. (Actually, even clicking the currently selected folder again seems to force the display to be refreshed, at which point the moved messages are no longer listed.) What happens if you follow the same procedure? This seems to happen only with certain Outlook installations. It never happened on my machine until I installed Service Pack 2 for Windows XP. It's a mild annoyance now that I understand how it's behaving, though it would certainly be nice if we could find a way to make this reproducible so it could be fixed or worked around. SP2 seems to have introduced other, similar Outlook problems unrelated to SpamBayes, so I'm inclined to suspect that the problem is Outlook rather than SpamBayes. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Will du Pont > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:17 AM > To: Tony Meyer > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Odd error message > > This happens with all messages, whether I highlight one or the whole > batch. 95% of the messages I try to move (Well, I actually > do move but > I always get the odd message ""No filterable mail items are selected") > are in the Maybe Spam folder. Sometimes I'll move a message that went > to Spam into Inbox or one that stayed in Inbox to Spam, but I always > still get the message. > > I read FAQ 5.7 but it didn't help. I have SpamBayes set to > only filter > the Inbox (Outlook 2003 BTW). > > I have the "Enable background filtering" box checked. Does that have > anything to do with it? > > How do I send you a copy of my most recent log file? > > Thanks for your reply, and help. > > --Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] > Sent: 09/16/2005 10:38 PM > To: Will du Pont > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Odd error message > > > Whenever I use the buttons "Delete As Spam" or "Recover from Spam" > > to do what they are designed for, I always have one or more email > > messages highlighted that I want to be moved to another > box, either > > Spam or back to the Inbox. When I press the button the > first time, > > nothing happens. When I press it again, the email(s) go where I > > want them but I get a message that says "No filterable mail items > > are selected." > > Does this happen with any message, or just particular ones? > SpamBayes should only work with received messages, and so tries to > figure out which messages have been received and which haven't. > Unfortunately, this is difficult to do, and there are occasional > messages that, for whatever reason, fail to correctly match the > criteria. There's an open bug report about this. You can add more > information to that report if you like, but basically it's easy > enough to just manually move these few rouge messages. > > If this is happening with all messages, then that's something > different. In that case, it would probably help to see your log. > Please do this again (to generate the log entries), then send us a > copy of your most recent log file. > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in > your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From sandrodallas at brturbo.com.br Tue Sep 20 18:49:36 2005 From: sandrodallas at brturbo.com.br (sandrodallas@brturbo.com.br) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:49:36 -0300 Subject: [Spambayes] Question Message-ID: <00a201c5be03$4ba793a0$0301010a@Sandro1> I have downloaded spambayes1.0.4, but cannot open the page SpamBayes configuration page at http://localhost:8880/config - everytime it only gives me the Page Cannot Be Displayed. 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No, I do not use an Athlon 64 with DEP :-) I have a HP PAvilion with a Pentium D, 3 GHz Any clues? Thanks, D. Didier MORANDI - IT Manager Chavagnes International College 96 rue du Calvaire, 85250 Chavagnes-en-Paillers, France Phone: +336 7983 6418 - www.chavagnes.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050921/7d1dd756/attachment.htm From koppika at dow.com Wed Sep 21 15:25:48 2005 From: koppika at dow.com (Koppi, Kurt (KA)) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:25:48 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] help! Message-ID: <288AF286378FE04BB48F75C5530EF27001D13793@USMDLMDOWM171.dow.com> I am having trouble with my SpamBayes software. I read through the trouble-shooting guide but I am still stuck. The SpamBayes tool items appear but they fail to work. I have items in my Junk folder and in my Junk Suspect folder so it appears like the filtering is working correctly. However, when I highlight messages in my Junk Suspected folder and click the Delete As Spam button on my tool bar, nothing happens. I have been using SpamBayes for about a year now and this is the first time this has happened. I read through the trouble-shooting guide and followed the directions. I first deleted the SpamBayes toolbar and re-started Outlook. The SpamBayes toolbar was recreated following the restart but that did not fix the problem. Next, I deleted the outcmd.dat file and re-started but that also did not fix the problem. Any suggestions? I am using Windows XP operating system. I am using SpamBayes version 0.9 If I have any log files I'll send them to you but you need to tell me where they are. I would greatly appreciate your help. Up until now, I have been quite happy with the performance of SpamBayes. Thanks, Kurt Kurt A. Koppi, Ph.D. Polymer Processing Team Plastics R&D The Dow Chemical Company 433 Building Midland, MI 48667 Phone: (989) 638-4178 FAX: (989) 638-7985 koppika at dow.com From JLHutton at comcast.net Wed Sep 21 17:41:10 2005 From: JLHutton at comcast.net (Johnnie Hutton) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:41:10 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Options Message-ID: <000f01c5bec2$e45dc2d0$6401a8c0@Reception> The option for recovering from spam folder, junk mail folder and junk mail suspects folder has disappeared. Messages are still being sent the these folders, I believe, because they disappear. Consequently, if I receive an email from a new address that spambayes does not recognize, I cannot retrieve it, because I can?t find it. When I receive messages, I will have five or sex messages but when I try to read them, they cannot be found. Please advise. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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In-Reply-To: <288AF286378FE04BB48F75C5530EF27001D13793@USMDLMDOWM171.dow.com> References: <288AF286378FE04BB48F75C5530EF27001D13793@USMDLMDOWM171.dow.com> Message-ID: > The SpamBayes tool items appear but they fail to work. Please see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. > I am using SpamBayes version 0.9 It would be a good idea to upgrade to 1.0.4 - 0.9 is very old. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From martinr at ia4u.net Thu Sep 22 05:16:49 2005 From: martinr at ia4u.net (Rick & Barbara Martin) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:16:49 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Lost Junk Mail Folder Message-ID: <000201c5bf24$123ca7a0$367bb3cf@BarbRixPuter> I opened Outlook and the Junk Mail Folder is missing. Yet, it is putting the spam mail somewhere. I just cannot find it. We've been using SpamBayes for 6 weeks or so and love it. This is the first problem I've had with it. How do I find the Junk Mail Folder and get it back so I can check it from time to time and make sure there isn't good emails in there? Rick martinr at ia4u.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050921/1b87c098/attachment.htm From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Thu Sep 22 13:52:35 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:52:35 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5004873449@SPIKE.city> But there's still a fundamental problem with that training regimen: If you use it, your data base *will* eventually contain far more spam than ham. And the developers profess to believe that this is a sub-optimal, and possibly harmful, situation. Absent a solution that allows the user to selectively prune the data base (or does so automatically), you may want to recommend that users monitor their ham/spam ratio and retrain from scratch if it gets too low. Having said that, I should note that although my ham/spam ratio currently stands at only .24, it doesn't seem to have appreciably affected the performance of the filter. I'm just taking the developers' word for it that there are cases where it seriously matters. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 4:37 AM > To: sales at technology.cc > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Tony Meyer - Training question > > > > At this time I would like to know if you have changed your opinion on > > training since then. Here's what you said in a message to me on August > > 10, 2004 after reading my draft chapter. > [...] > > Yes, I would stick to what I said then. I would perhaps add that > after time it is probably worth adjusting the thresholds, so that not > quite as much ends up in the unsure folder, but maybe that's too > advanced. > > > I basically distilled your advice down to "do no pre-training at all - > > train only on the UNSURE folder". > > *And* any mistakes. > > > Where do you stand on training these days, for people who simply will > > not or cannot follow a complicated set of instructions. > It still seems that 'fpfnunsure' (all mistakes and unsures) gives > generally good results with SpamBayes, and it's certainly the easiest > method to use with the Outlook plug-in. I would (and do) still > recommend it. > > =Tony.Meyer From jsp at PKC.com Thu Sep 22 15:20:55 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:20:55 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Lost Junk Mail Folder Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1564B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Please see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Rick & Barbara Martin Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:17 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Lost Junk Mail Folder I opened Outlook and the Junk Mail Folder is missing. Yet, it is putting the spam mail somewhere. I just cannot find it. We've been using SpamBayes for 6 weeks or so and love it. This is the first problem I've had with it. How do I find the Junk Mail Folder and get it back so I can check it from time to time and make sure there isn't good emails in there? 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If none of that applies, please send us a copy of your most recent (there's probably only one) log file, which is in the temp directory - probably C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From truelove at amazon.co.uk Fri Sep 23 19:44:53 2005 From: truelove at amazon.co.uk (Truelove, Jeremy) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:44:53 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes Crashes Message-ID: <11D35F622B188D4A9D58DF37073FAF9D034F5866@ex-mail-sl1-02.ant.amazon.com> I just installed Spam Bayes 1.0.4 and I run Outlook 2003 SP1 on Professional XP and as soon as I start up outlook it crashes immediately with an error. When I went and looked in the log files they were just empty. 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Senior Technical Service Specialist UCAR Emulsion Systems/Dow Biocides phone: (336) 922-0242 fax: (336) 922-0253 e-mail: chervemc at dow.com <> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes4.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2142 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050923/e4f97415/spambayes4.obj From jacquelinethegreat24 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 24 07:39:33 2005 From: jacquelinethegreat24 at yahoo.com (Jacqueline Alexander) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] I'm a single woman with a limited income Message-ID: <20050924053933.72055.qmail@web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Jacqueline Alexander New York, NY 1(347) 594 6778 call anytime --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Try removing/renaming it (it's called default_bayes_database.db and is in the data directory, possibly 'C: \Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes'; you'll also want to rename/remove the default_message_database.db file). If that doesn't work, let us know and we'll try to think of something else. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Sep 24 13:14:01 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 23:14:01 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes Crashes In-Reply-To: <11D35F622B188D4A9D58DF37073FAF9D034F5866@ex-mail-sl1-02.ant.amazon.com> References: <11D35F622B188D4A9D58DF37073FAF9D034F5866@ex-mail-sl1-02.ant.amazon.com> Message-ID: <30BFD80E-5E19-4391-97F2-78984439304F@ihug.co.nz> > I just installed Spam Bayes 1.0.4 and I run Outlook 2003 SP1 on > Professional XP and as soon as I start up outlook it crashes > immediately with an error. When I went and looked in the log files > they were just empty. Any help would be appreciated. Does FAQ 5.8 apply? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Sep 24 13:16:56 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 23:16:56 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Race condition between SpamBays and AVG Anti-Virus In-Reply-To: <200509191708.j8JH8sHe001428@sheol.7L.se> References: <200509191708.j8JH8sHe001428@sheol.7L.se> Message-ID: <8DF46296-CCD9-4EDE-B126-947BAB4CFA59@ihug.co.nz> > After installing SpamBay v1.0.4 and then when I receive a mail with > a virus in it that is detected by the AVG Anti-Virus (v7.0 and 6) > the mail is regenerated continuously in my inbox. I've experienced > this on three systems. The mail client is outlook 2000 and 2003 > using IMAP on W2k and XP. When this happen I've to kill outlook > start it again and remove the mail with the virus before SpamBays > starts filtering. I'm not aware of anyone experiencing this before - my best guess for a solution would be to adjust the filtering delay values (to allow AVG sufficient time to permanently deal with the message). These are on the Advanced Tab in the SpamBayes Manager dialog. You'll have to experiment to determine what the best values are. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Sep 24 13:20:10 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 23:20:10 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] troubles with the filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A4108E0-F945-4927-9F61-745547C1DABE@ihug.co.nz> > I have troubles with the filtering of my emails. I?m very satisfied > with the tool mostly, but sometimes it ain?t sort out the as spam > tagged mails from my inbox. I'm not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean that some messages are incorrectly classified (i.e. SpamBayes thinks they are ham, but they're actually spam)? Do you mean that SpamBayes classifies them as spam (e.g. the spam field is filled and a log entry is generated) but they aren't moved? Do you mean that some mail simply isn't filtered? What version of Outlook/Windows is this? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Sat Sep 24 16:59:53 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:59:53 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes problem Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50048734D0@SPIKE.city> If you take the log at face value, there's a permission problem on the database file. It makes sense to check that before replacing the database. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:13 AM > To: Chervenak, Mary (MC) > Cc: 'spambayes at python.org' > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] spambayes problem > > > > The add-in is enabled and I have tried to re-initialize it several > > times. [...] I've attached a log of the error message. > [...] > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "manager.pyc", line 411, in LoadBayes > > File "manager.pyc", line 252, in Load > > ValueError: __len__() should return >= 0 > > Very odd - I don't think I've seen this before. My best guess is > that the database is bad. Try removing/renaming it (it's called > default_bayes_database.db and is in the data directory, possibly 'C: > \Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes'; > you'll also want to rename/remove the > default_message_database.db file). > > If that doesn't work, let us know and we'll try to think of > something > else. > > =Tony.Meyer From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Sat Sep 24 17:10:52 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:10:52 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] adding to my email address Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50048734D1@SPIKE.city> Yes. You should stay off the Spambayes mailing list. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of shannon ashburn Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:09 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] adding to my email address What is the big deal with yahoo on the subject, its my addy and if I want to alter it then "I damn well" ~~"will damnit!!" This attitude from the owner who has always done strange things running his company who is he to ditate on what's normal or the norm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man,I'm angry enough to spit lava and piss acid into his server? any opinions? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Some "real people" who could help test in their environments would be a big help. * Help improve the website; there's a Wiki page about that at http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/WebSiteDevelopment * Help improve the documentation, especially for the non-Outlook applications (POP3 proxy, IMAP filter, Notes filter, sb_filter). * Help out newbies on the mailing list. * Make contributions to the Wiki - any hints and tips, scripts, recipes etc. * Take part in discussions on the developer's mailing list at spambayes-dev at python.org. You don't need to be a developer to participate, you just need to have a decent grasp of the project and have opinions about how it should be developed. -- Richie Hindle richie at entrian.com From Torgny.Hofstedt at home.se Sat Sep 24 22:08:17 2005 From: Torgny.Hofstedt at home.se (Torgny Hofstedt) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:08:17 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Race condition between SpamBays and AVG Anti-Virus In-Reply-To: <8DF46296-CCD9-4EDE-B126-947BAB4CFA59@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: Hi, thanks for your comments, but I've already increased the initial delay to the 10 s maximum. I believe this would have worked if Outlook with IMAP removed the deleted mails automatically and not just after a purge. Cheers, Torgny... -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: den 24 september 2005 13:17 To: Torgny Hofstedt Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Race condition between SpamBays and AVG Anti-Virus > After installing SpamBay v1.0.4 and then when I receive a mail with > a virus in it that is detected by the AVG Anti-Virus (v7.0 and 6) > the mail is regenerated continuously in my inbox. I've experienced > this on three systems. The mail client is outlook 2000 and 2003 > using IMAP on W2k and XP. When this happen I've to kill outlook > start it again and remove the mail with the virus before SpamBays > starts filtering. I'm not aware of anyone experiencing this before - my best guess for a solution would be to adjust the filtering delay values (to allow AVG sufficient time to permanently deal with the message). These are on the Advanced Tab in the SpamBayes Manager dialog. You'll have to experiment to determine what the best values are. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Sep 25 02:09:53 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:09:53 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes problem In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50048734D0@SPIKE.city> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50048734D0@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: > If you take the log at face value, there's a permission problem on the > database file. It makes sense to check that before replacing the > database. Except that that occurs after the other error. To me, it looked like it opened the database, but was bad, then tried to replace the database, and that failed, because it was in use. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From s240668156708 at yahoo.ca Sun Sep 25 22:24:20 2005 From: s240668156708 at yahoo.ca (Michael Ashburn) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spambayes] windpower or solar panels Message-ID: <20050925202420.61256.qmail@web35707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does anybody know how I can start buying these items in Ottawa,Ontario,CANADA? --------------------------------- Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org] On Behalf Of Michael Ashburn Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 4:24 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] windpower or solar panels Does anybody know how I can start buying these items in Ottawa,Ontario,CANADA? _____ Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050926/1ccfd5dc/attachment.html From HerbM at learnquick.com Mon Sep 26 16:54:56 2005 From: HerbM at learnquick.com (Herb Martin) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:54:56 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] E-Mail ID #319042 [PayPal phish crap] In-Reply-To: <200509261135.j8QBZ4KS049805@newsbuilding.com> Message-ID: I now get more Spam through the SpamBayes list than I get from any other source now. Of course this is because the discussion of spam on SpamBayes means I let mail from the list bypass SpamAssassin and CRM114 classification. Isn't there some way the list can filter this stuff out? Ok, it's just a pet peeve -- I'll be quiet now. -- Herb Martin From tim.peters at gmail.com Mon Sep 26 17:33:24 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:33:24 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] E-Mail ID #319042 [PayPal phish crap] In-Reply-To: References: <200509261135.j8QBZ4KS049805@newsbuilding.com> Message-ID: <1f7befae05092608331ee73666@mail.gmail.com> [Herb Martin] > I now get more Spam through the SpamBayes list than I get > from any other source now. > > Of course this is because the discussion of spam on > SpamBayes means I let mail from the list bypass > SpamAssassin and CRM114 classification. > > Isn't there some way the list can filter this stuff > out? You just explained why mechanical filtering doesn't work for you on lists discussing spam. The same reasons apply here. A way to get what you want is turn this into a moderated list, with all postings held for moderator review. That's easy to do. Alas, finding people willing to volunteer their time to _do_ such review, around the clock, every day, is not easy to do. > Ok, it's just a pet peeve -- I'll be quiet now. For example, do you want this enough to volunteer to do it? Me neither. From lee at turtlemountain.com Mon Sep 26 17:10:35 2005 From: lee at turtlemountain.com (Lee Ferrell) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:10:35 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Help! Message-ID: <00dd01c5c2ac$73bf2f80$5804a8c0@tmi.local> I have read the trouble shooting guide and am still stuck. I am not certain why I can't manually "delete as spam"? I used to be able to, can't now. Any suggestions? Lee Ferrell We make Soy....Delicious! Turtle Mountain, LLC. National Sales Assistant Ph 541-338-9400 xtn 18 Toll Free 866-388-7853 xtn 18 Fax 541-338-9401 330 S. Seneca Road P.O. 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I was (of course) mostly just venting and offering a hint to others that this referenced message was "just another phish" but I do have a method that might work, and I would probably be willing to be ONE of the moderators: When I ran a large lists my settings included the following (on Lyris so other lists servers may not quite have this feature): All NEW posters were on "N moderated review" where N was a reasonably low integer. (not publicized, it remained undocumented to users) After N moderated APPROVALS Lyris removed the moderation block on that user. This practically eliminated the "drive by spam" to the list -- and even idiots who posted personally but could never seem to read or even come close to understanding the list rules did not interfere with the list.... With a few moderators (and an appropriate web interface) approval for new users -- or even past abuses -- can be quite swift. I will/would volunteer to be one of several moderators in such a scheme. -- Herb Martin From scottd at guinnsmith.com Tue Sep 27 16:35:34 2005 From: scottd at guinnsmith.com (Scott Dillard) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:35:34 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook killed it Message-ID: <200509271435.j8REZKYS031061@mail.guinnsmith.com> You have a FAQ that mentions Outlook asking to disable SpamBayes (SB). This happened to me, but I'm not running an AMD 64 chip. I'm running an Intel P4 3.2 GHz on Windows XP Pro SP2. Outlook is version 2003 (11.6359.6408) SP1 from MS Office Professional. SB is still filtering, but I can no longer tell it what is what. The buttons don't do anything. The drop-down menu in Outlook doesn't work anymore, either. Any help would be appreciated. Scott. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Then I added an outlook rule to move some incoming mail (arriving from one particular account) from the inbox into a different folder on the IMAP server as it arrives, and added that folder to the spambayes configuration for "filter the following folders as messages arrive" (ie both it and the primary inbox are checked in the dialog that shows the folder tree with a checkbox beside each folder.) I have the initial delay set at 2 secs, and the interval between messages at 1 sec. The 2ndary folder is my list of IMAP "subscribed" folders. The INBOX is as well obviously, no choice there. If I click on the 2ndary folder, and after a moment I see all the headers for all the new messages update, outlook then just sits there for several minutes before spambayes starts doing anything. It eventually seems to run correctly. Meanwhile, in the primary INBOX, sometimes it doesn't ever seem to run at all, or perhaps it tags one in ten obvious spam as such, when before it would have gotten them all. Any ideas what's going on ? Thx, Keith From keith at keithweng.com Tue Sep 27 19:28:11 2005 From: keith at keithweng.com (Keith Weng) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:28:11 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] scan two outlook imap folders ? - resend with log Message-ID: Log file attached this time. ------------------------------------------------ Summary: with two folders selected for the outlook spambayes plugin v1.0 to scan when messages arrive, there seems to be a very long delay (minutes) before it does anything after messages arrive, and even then doesn't seem to run fully everywhere. Details: Spambayes was working well with no obvious delays on my outlook->IMAP inbox when there was only one folder selected for scanning. Then I added an outlook rule to move some incoming mail (arriving from one particular account) from the inbox into a different folder on the IMAP server as it arrives, and added that folder to the spambayes configuration for "filter the following folders as messages arrive" (ie both it and the primary inbox are checked in the dialog that shows the folder tree with a checkbox beside each folder.) I have the initial delay set at 2 secs, and the interval between messages at 1 sec. The 2ndary folder is my list of IMAP "subscribed" folders. The INBOX is as well obviously, no choice there. If I click on the 2ndary folder, and after a moment I see all the headers for all the new messages update, outlook then just sits there for several minutes before spambayes starts doing anything. It eventually seems to run correctly. Meanwhile, in the primary INBOX, sometimes it doesn't ever seem to run at all, or perhaps it tags one in ten obvious spam as such, when before it would have gotten them all. 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Met vriendelijke groet, H.Nekkers, h.nekkers at hccnet.nl, Schaepmanstraat 19, 7103 GA Winterswijk tel 0543-517773 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 28 01:02:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:02:59 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook killed it In-Reply-To: <200509271435.j8REZKYS031061@mail.guinnsmith.com> References: <200509271435.j8REZKYS031061@mail.guinnsmith.com> Message-ID: <98849E04-D0E6-4C7B-ABBE-D4A323426887@ihug.co.nz> > You have a FAQ that mentions Outlook asking to disable SpamBayes (SB). [...] To re-enable a disabled plug-in in Outlook, go to Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 28 01:02:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:02:59 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook killed it In-Reply-To: <200509271435.j8REZKYS031061@mail.guinnsmith.com> References: <200509271435.j8REZKYS031061@mail.guinnsmith.com> Message-ID: <98849E04-D0E6-4C7B-ABBE-D4A323426887@ihug.co.nz> > You have a FAQ that mentions Outlook asking to disable SpamBayes (SB). [...] To re-enable a disabled plug-in in Outlook, go to Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 28 01:05:23 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:05:23 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Help! In-Reply-To: <00dd01c5c2ac$73bf2f80$5804a8c0@tmi.local> References: <00dd01c5c2ac$73bf2f80$5804a8c0@tmi.local> Message-ID: <72EF7D6F-8B0A-4D39-AA35-FE2554F30188@ihug.co.nz> > I have read the trouble shooting guide and am still stuck. I am not > certain why I can?t manually ?delete as spam?? I used to be able > to, can?t now. Check to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. If that isn't the problem, please send us a copy of your most recent log (as described in the troubleshooting guide). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 28 01:07:38 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:07:38 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] New version ???? In-Reply-To: <4339B03A.26541.484CBA@h.nekkers.hccnet.nl> References: <4339B03A.26541.484CBA@h.nekkers.hccnet.nl> Message-ID: <3DBC90FC-9352-4D29-8CC4-F6E1F8710CCE@ihug.co.nz> > I did use version 1.0.4 and switch to Spaminhilator 0.9.9.9 > > I would like to go back to Spambayes because I liked it better, but > I'm > waiting for a new version. When will that be released??? Why are you waiting for a new version? Because of a problem in 1.0.4? Because you're wanting a new feature? I hope to be able to find time to get 1.1a2 out early next month, although I can't be certain that'll happen. Hopefully that would mean a 1.1 final by the end of the year. However, my original aim was to have 1.1 done by April 2005, so there are no guarantees... =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From webmaster at softpedia.com Wed Sep 28 14:23:37 2005 From: webmaster at softpedia.com (Softpedia Team) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:23:37 +0300 (EEST) Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Outlook Anti-spam plugin 1.1a1 - Softpedia Pick Award Message-ID: <20050928122337.B5E574EC1DB@web1.softpedia.com> Hello, Your product SpamBayes Outlook Anti-spam plugin 1.1a1 has been awarded by us with 5 stars and SoftPedia Pick Award ! You can check the following page to see the various graphical formats of the award: http://www.softpedia.com/awards/ Your product review page is located at: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/E-mail/Anti-Spam-Tools/SpamBayes-Outlook-Antispam-plugin.shtml Please feel free to link to us using the URL above. Don't hesitate to contact us for more information. Sincerely, The Softpedia Team --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Softpedia is a library of over 70,000 free and free-to-try software programs for Windows and Unix/Linux, games, Mac software, Windows drivers, mobile devices and IT-related articles. We review and categorize these products in order to allow the visitor/user to find the exact product they and their system needs. We strive to deliver only the best products to the visitor/user together with self-made evaluation and review notes. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Softpedia - the encyclopedia of free software downloads http://www.softpedia.com/ From jsp at PKC.com Wed Sep 28 16:08:46 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:08:46 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Outlook Anti-spam plugin 1.1a1 - SoftpediaPick Award Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1565A@PKCVT01.pkc.com> While it's true that the Outlook plugin does not work with Outlook Express (as stated in the review), there is a version of SpamBayes that does. See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express. Perhaps the review could mention this. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Softpedia Team > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:24 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Outlook Anti-spam plugin 1.1a1 > - SoftpediaPick Award > > Hello, > > Your product SpamBayes Outlook Anti-spam plugin 1.1a1 has > been awarded by us with 5 stars and SoftPedia Pick Award ! > > You can check the following page to see the various graphical > formats of the award: > http://www.softpedia.com/awards/ > > Your product review page is located at: > http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/E-mail/Anti-Spam-Tools/S pamBayes-Outlook-Antispam-plugin.shtml > > Please feel free to link to us using the URL above. > Don't hesitate to contact us for more information. > > Sincerely, > The Softpedia Team > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------- > Softpedia is a library of over 70,000 free and free-to-try software > programs for Windows and Unix/Linux, games, Mac software, > Windows drivers, > mobile devices and IT-related articles. > We review and categorize these products in order to allow the > visitor/user > to find the exact product they and their system needs. > We strive to deliver only the best products to the visitor/user > together with self-made evaluation and review notes. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------- > Softpedia - the encyclopedia of free software downloads > http://www.softpedia.com/ > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From MarKen90 at aol.com Wed Sep 28 18:02:39 2005 From: MarKen90 at aol.com (MarKen90@aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:02:39 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail Message-ID: <9a.2e6667b6.306c189f@aol.com> I am looking for a name that might have been deleted on my Spam. How do I find it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050928/d0b80ee5/attachment.htm From h.nekkers at hccnet.nl Wed Sep 28 20:25:29 2005 From: h.nekkers at hccnet.nl (Henny Nekkers) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:25:29 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] New version ???? In-Reply-To: <3DBC90FC-9352-4D29-8CC4-F6E1F8710CCE@ihug.co.nz> References: <4339B03A.26541.484CBA@h.nekkers.hccnet.nl> Message-ID: <433AFC39.1770.224C94@h.nekkers.hccnet.nl> Hello Tony, Yes, I''m waiting for new features. ***SPAM*** Perhaps you remember my emails in may: I didn't have any succes running from source. Just could not getting it to work. +++++++++++++ > "header_spam_string:***SPAM***" work fine until I restart > SpamBayes or my PC. On the configuration page I see ***SPAM*** > under Header Options but after a restart the checkbox get > unchecked so it doesn't work any more. Bug? :( Yes, this is a bug, sorry. I've fixed this in CVS, so the fix will be in 1.1a2. For the moment, you can run from CVS source (or 1.0.4 source and I can provide a patch), or do the annoying step of resetting the value every time SpamBayes is launched. >> I'm pretty sure that Pegasus Mail lets you filter on arbitrary >> headers > The other filter option (look for a > "X-Spambayes-Classification" header) > I cann't get working in the normal filter option. You'll have to use the "regular expression" filter option (rather than the 'standard' headers). You'll want the rule to look something like: X-Spambayes-Exception:\w*spam (the \w* just means there can be any amount of whitespace there). This will work in Pegasus Mail, which means you can avoid the above bug for the moment. =Tony.Meyer +++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I did use version 1.0.4 and switch to Spaminhilator 0.9.9.9 > > > > I would like to go back to Spambayes because I liked it better, but > > I'm > > waiting for a new version. When will that be released??? > > Why are you waiting for a new version? Because of a problem in > 1.0.4? Because you're wanting a new feature? > > I hope to be able to find time to get 1.1a2 out early next month, > although I can't be certain that'll happen. Hopefully that would > mean a 1.1 final by the end of the year. However, my original aim > was to have 1.1 done by April 2005, so there are no guarantees... > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > > Met vriendelijke groet, H.Nekkers, h.nekkers at hccnet.nl, Schaepmanstraat 19, 7103 GA Winterswijk tel 0543-517773 From peter at peterweil.com Wed Sep 28 22:34:12 2005 From: peter at peterweil.com (Peter Weil) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:34:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Bug Can Someone Help? Message-ID: Can someone help, please? I've been a dedicated user of SpamBayes for more than a year and a contributor.no trouble whatsoever until now. SpamBayes simply stopped working. I have run Outlook Detect and Repair, I have downloaded SpamBayes version (older) and 1.04.nothing seems to work. Stats: OS is XPHome; IE6; Outlook 2002. Error Message: See the logfile 'C:\ProgramFiles/SpamBayes\bin\outlook+addin+register.ese.log' That log iTraceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log's _______________________________________________________ ThePeterWeilGroup Workforce/Career Consultants peter at peterweil.com www.peterweil.com Fax: 361.985.6298 Talk: 361.906.0641, Option 1 This e-mail and any files that are transmitted with it are intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the System Manager at administrator at peterweil.com. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of A computer virus. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050928/cfda69ff/attachment.html From peter at peterweil.com Wed Sep 28 22:55:12 2005 From: peter at peterweil.com (Peter Weil) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:55:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Help... Message-ID: Can someone help, please? I've been a dedicated user of SpamBayes for more than a year and a contributor.no trouble whatsoever until now. SpamBayes simply stopped working. I have run Outlook Detect and Repair, I have downloaded SpamBayes version (older) and 1.04.nothing seems to work. Stats: OS is XPHome; IE6; Outlook 2002. Error Message: See the logfile 'C:\ProgramFiles/SpamBayes\bin\outlook+addin+register.ese.log' That log iTraceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 72, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log's _______________________________________________________ ThePeterWeilGroup Workforce/Career Consultants peter at peterweil.com www.peterweil.com Fax: 361.985.6298 Talk: 361.906.0641, Option 1 This e-mail and any files that are transmitted with it are intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the System Manager at administrator at peterweil.com. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of A computer virus. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050928/820366e5/attachment.htm From dhrey at isp.com Wed Sep 28 23:58:30 2005 From: dhrey at isp.com (denny reynaud) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:58:30 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Product Review Message-ID: <000501c5c477$c65db730$ed71e304@toshibauser> Do you do business as Herman Street, Inc. I have two charges to my visa account on Aug 6 seven minutes apart and was charged $29.95 each time. I cannot recall any purchases from this company and want to know if it is a legitimate charge or a double charge. Contact me please or I will have to contest the charges. Contact me at (501) 329-6690. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050928/6ea1bfab/attachment.html From richie at entrian.com Thu Sep 29 00:28:55 2005 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:28:55 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Product Review In-Reply-To: <000501c5c477$c65db730$ed71e304@toshibauser> References: <000501c5c477$c65db730$ed71e304@toshibauser> Message-ID: [denny] > Do you do business as Herman Street, Inc. No, the SpamBayes project doesn't "do business" at all. We are a collection of volunteers, and our software is free. -- Richie Hindle richie at entrian.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 29 01:29:15 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:29:15 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Help... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > SpamBayes simply stopped working. I have run Outlook Detect and > Repair, I have downloaded SpamBayes version (older) and 1.04? > nothing seems to work. > > Stats: OS is XPHome; IE6; Outlook 2002. [...] > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "addin.py", line 72, in ? > > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\Peter\ > \LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' [...] It appears that SpamBayes isn't able to get permission to write to your temp directory. The temp directory should be accessible to any program; it's likely you'll have problems with other applications if that permission isn't available. To change the permission of the folder, open up Windows Explorer (Windows-E) and type in the address bar: "C:\Documents and Settings \Peter\Local Settings\" (no quotes). Find the folder named "Temp" in there, and right click it and choose "Properties". You can change the permissions in this dialog - I don't have access to a Windows machine right at the moment, but I think it's on the "Sharing" tab under permissions. It's possible that some other program (which you have presumably recently installed or updated) has decided to block access to the temp directory. If this is the case, then you'll have to stop that program doing that. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 29 01:32:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:32:19 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: <9a.2e6667b6.306c189f@aol.com> References: <9a.2e6667b6.306c189f@aol.com> Message-ID: > I am looking for a name that might have been deleted on my Spam. > How do I find it? Do you mean that you're looking for a message that was classified as spam? If so, please see FAQ 3.12: If you mean that you made a classification error and want to correct it, then find the message that was misclassified in the spam folder, select it, and click the "Recover from spam" button on the toolbar; this will perform the necessary training. If you're talking about using some sort of address-based classification, this is called whitelisting. 6.6 FAQ explains why SpamBayes does not include whitelisting. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 29 01:39:29 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:39:29 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Outlook Anti-spam plugin 1.1a1 - Softpedia Pick Award In-Reply-To: <20050928122337.B5E574EC1DB@web1.softpedia.com> References: <20050928122337.B5E574EC1DB@web1.softpedia.com> Message-ID: <8B7CF635-C891-41A0-BF94-8408D6A3B4B0@ihug.co.nz> > Please feel free to link to us using the URL above. > Don't hesitate to contact us for more information. The final sentence of the third paragraph is "The table below outlines the main applications which are part of the SpamBayes distribution". There is no table below. Why did you choose to review/include an alpha version? IMO it would make a lot more sense to use 1.0.4 than to use 1.1a1, unless there was functionality in the 1.1 alpha that factored into the rating. As Jesse said, stating that it doesn't work with Outlook Express is very misleading. The Outlook plug-in only works with Outlook (or we'd call it something else ), but SpamBayes works with nearly any mail program. =Tony.Meyer From tim.peters at gmail.com Thu Sep 29 02:14:24 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:14:24 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Product Review In-Reply-To: References: <000501c5c477$c65db730$ed71e304@toshibauser> Message-ID: <1f7befae05092817144d7b6586@mail.gmail.com> [denny] >> Do you do business as Herman Street, Inc. ... [Richie Hindle] > No, the SpamBayes project doesn't "do business" at all. We are a > collection of volunteers, and our software is free. Denny, why would you ask us this? That is, what could possibly make you imagine the SpamBayes project _might_ have some connection with "Herman Street, Inc."? That's pretty baffling ... unless you just sent your msg to every email address you could find <0.3 winik>. From jsp at PKC.com Thu Sep 29 15:08:40 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:08:40 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Product Review Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1565E@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Maybe you should be in touch with www.hermanstreet.com . ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of denny reynaud Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:59 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Product Review Do you do business as Herman Street, Inc. I have two charges to my visa account on Aug 6 seven minutes apart and was charged $29.95 each time. I cannot recall any purchases from this company and want to know if it is a legitimate charge or a double charge. Contact me please or I will have to contest the charges. Contact me at (501) 329-6690. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anne Clark) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:53:08 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Toolbar items disappeared Message-ID: <000001c5c50d$e73c1b90$021919ac@Revanne> Hello! Suddenly my toolbar items for SpamBayes disappeared. How do I get them back? Also, I've noticed that it doesn't seem to be "learning" lately... too many spam are getting put into "suspect" box. Thanks for your help! Anne Zoe Clark - WRITER & AUTHOR! Rev. M. Anne Clark Wedding of Souls Officiant for Weddings in VT and NH www.weddingofsouls.com Super Annie, American Nanny... for peaceful parenting! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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See the FAQ for more: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of 5-10 Hz Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:04 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] outlook express i'd appreciate it very much if you'd integrate spambayes with oe. btw aus personal computer gave you top marks; that's why i came to spambayes -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050930/85715e13/attachment.html From vze5bgzj at verizon.net Fri Sep 30 15:12:36 2005 From: vze5bgzj at verizon.net (vze5bgzj@verizon.net) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:12:36 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Web Interface Advanced Configuration Message-ID: <200509300912.36744.vze5bgzj@verizon.net> Hi. I have just upgraded to Spambayes 1.1a1 POP3 Proxy. The OS is SuSE Linux 9.3. I have a problem. The Advanced Configuration feature of the Web Interface will not permit me to enter multiple private IPs in the Allowed Remote UI Connections. The same is the case for the Allowed Remote POP3 connections. I have explicitly followed the instructions to separate the IPs with commas. I receive an error message back. In this error message ALL of the IPs are put together into one string that is bound with a apostrophe (single quote character) on each end. The string is followed with "is not a valid value for [Interface Options] . . . " Has anyone hit this? What's the fix? Also, I have removed the new hammie.db, etc. from the the 1.1a1 files that I extracted from the Gzipped TAR ball and replaced with the existing hammie.db from the original installation and was disappointed to see that the application does not realize that the database includes over 15K trained messages. How do I pump the .db folders through the training filters for the new version to "bring it up to speed" right away? Thanks Mike From vze5bgzj at verizon.net Fri Sep 30 15:14:59 2005 From: vze5bgzj at verizon.net (vze5bgzj@verizon.net) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:14:59 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Further on the IPs problem Message-ID: <200509300914.59417.vze5bgzj@verizon.net> Also I neglected to note that the wildcard option (eg 192.168.1.*) does not work in my installation. Mike From irenea at bluenile.com Fri Sep 30 20:23:34 2005 From: irenea at bluenile.com (Irene Abiva) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:23:34 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: possible bug? Message-ID: Irene Abiva | Data Warehouse Analyst Blue Nile, Inc. |* 206.336.6754 |* irenea at bluenile.com http://www.bluenile.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050930/baecb79c/attachment.htm