[Spambayes] Odd behavior with messages

Tue Jun 21 14:52:38 CEST 2005

If you click the SpamBayes button on the Outlook toolbar, then select
SpamBayes Manager... from the menu that pops up, a tabbed dialog will
display.  Click the Advanced tab and party on!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces at python.org 
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of douglas cohn
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:25 PM
> To: spambayes at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Odd behavior with messages
> 
>  Based on the info below  (That Spambayes allows time for 
> Outlook 2003 rules
> to run before processing) can we change that "Wait" time 
> possibly for large
> filters?
> 
> As per my earlier post I am getting repeated wrong sorts into 
> My junkmail
> folder
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] 
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 3:37 PM
> To: douglas cohn; spambayes at python.org
> Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Odd behavior with messages
> 
> Forgot to mention that you can do whitelisting using Outlook rules.
> SpamBayes waits a respectful period before processing 
> incoming messages to
> allow Outlook time to execute such rules.  Explore the Tools 
> > Rules and
> Alerts... menu item.  I think there may be some useful 
> messages from the
> last couple of months in the mailing list archives.  There's 
> a FAQ on the
> SpamBayes site that discusses whitelisting and blacklisting
> (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-w
> hitelistin
> g-blacklisting-to-spambayes).
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jesse Pelton
> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 3:32 PM
> > To: 'douglas cohn'; spambayes at python.org
> > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Odd behavior with messages
> > 
> > If you're hooked up to an Exchange server, it may be 
> putting messages 
> > (such as those from JPSoft) in your Junk folder.
> > That's the way it is at my workplace, and my sysadmin 
> assures me that 
> > there's nothing I can do about it.  So what I've done is to 
> create a 
> > Spam folder where I have SpamBayes put messages that it thinks are 
> > spam.  I have SpamBayes watch Outlook's Junk E-mail folder; 
> any spam 
> > is therefore moved to the Spam folder.  If I find a message 
> there, I 
> > know that Exchange thought it was spam but SpamBayes 
> didn't.  1.1 will 
> > have a feature that allows ham to be moved, so once that's 
> out, I'll 
> > have it move any ham from the Junk E-mail folder to my inbox.
> > 
> > Of course, if you're not using Exchange or it's not set up 
> to do spam 
> > filtering, none of this is relevant to you.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org
> > > [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of 
> > > douglas cohn
> > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:24 PM
> > > To: spambayes at python.org
> > > Subject: [Spambayes] Odd behavior with messages
> > > 
> > > I have noticed some odd behavior with messages from 
> JPSoft mailing 
> > > list.
> > > 
> > > I use XP SP2 SpamBayes Outlook 2003 add-in 1.04.  Attached is log 
> > > and error message (Screen clip)
> > > 
> > > I get messages from the newsgroup and they show a score 
> of 0% yet go 
> > > directing into Junk Folders.  Even after repeatedly 
> recovering from 
> > > spam they still end up there.  I am guessing that the recovery 
> > > applies to the user and not the list.
> > > 
> > > Isn't there a way to whitelist certain addresses 
> including mailing 
> > > lists?
> > > 
> > > In the log it always says Unable to determine source folder for 
> > > message.  I believe that is because of the to: address being a 
> > > newsgroup.
> > >  Also If I
> > > click recover from spam I can no longer move that message 
> to another 
> > > folder.
> > > I attached the error message I receive.  BUT if I just move the 
> > > message before clicking recover from Spam it moves normally.
> > > 
> > > This is a snippet from attached log (In zip file) Unable to 
> > > determine source folder for message 'Re: New Microsoft command 
> > > shell' - restoring to Inbox Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham 
> > > training message 'Re:
> > > New Microsoft
> > > command shell
> > > 
> > > The one odd thing about these messages which also affected the 
> > > Outlook Junk filter (which I have since disabled) is that the To: 
> > > line is the newsgroup address not the email address of the list.
> > > 
> > > This has happened many times before.
> > > 
> > > Here is the header
> > > Return-Path: 
> > > <bounce-jpsoft_support-3356261 at email.sparklist.com> Sun Jun 19
> > > 16:38:45 2005
> > > Received: from email.sparklist.com [64.62.197.108] by 
> > > webmail.gothamweb.net with SMTP;
> > >    Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:38:45 -0400
> > > Reply-To: "JP Software Support Forum" 
> > > <jpsoft_support at email.sparklist.com>
> > > From: "Manuel Lopez" <LopezOnWeb at msn.com>
> > > Newsgroups: jpsoft_support
> > > Subject: New Microsoft command shell
> > > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:38:22 -0500
> > > Lines: 14
> > > X-Priority: 3
> > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527
> > > X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
> > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527
> > > To: jpsoft_support
> > > X-Mailer: SparkLIST.com Newsgroup Interface
> > > List-Unsubscribe: 
> > > <mailto:leave-jpsoft_support-3356261U at email.sparklist.com>
> > > X-SPARKLIST-Message-Id:
> > > <SPARKLIST-3356261-2071457-2005.06.19-13.38.24--dc#inetservers
> > > .com at email.spa
> > > rklist.com>
> > > X-Declude-Sender: 
> bounce-jpsoft_support-3356261 at email.sparklist.com
> > > [64.62.197.108]
> > > X-Declude-Spoolname: 30237404.EML
> > > X-Declude-Scan: Score [0] at 16:38:58 on 19 Jun 2005
> > > X-Declude-Fail: None
> > > X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
> > > X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_Pass
> > > X-Rcpt-To: <douglas.cohn at inetservers.com>
> > > 
> > > Thanks very much
> > > 
> > > Doug
> > > 
> 
> 
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