From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 1 02:13:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:13:59 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I don't see the add in bar in outlook. > In the tools, options, other, advanced options, com add > in I see the tools, I check it, press ok, but when I re > open com add-ins it is unchecked...quite strange. Check to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. 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From jdhunter at ace.bsd.uchicago.edu Fri Jul 1 17:59:08 2005 From: jdhunter at ace.bsd.uchicago.edu (John Hunter) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:59:08 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Token seen in more ham than ham trained Message-ID: <87d5q2o6ur.fsf@peds-pc311.bsd.uchicago.edu> I am using spambayes with nnml/gnus and started getting this error message when filtering incoming mail (complete traceback below) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 314, in probability assert hamcount <= nham, "Token seen in more ham than ham trained." AssertionError: Token seen in more ham than ham trained. The only thing mildly nonstandard that I am doing with my database is using a standalone script sb_classify_nnml.py below to report the classifier results, much like classify does in the web interface. I have this script bound to a key in my gnus summary buffer so I can get a report on the current article. Is there a modification to the script I can make that will prevent this problem from recurring, if indeed the script is the cause of this problem? Is there a way to fix my database, or otherwise avoid this error, other than retraining? >>> spambayes.__version__ '1.1a1+' Thanks! JDH ### sb_classify_nnml.py #!/usr/bin/python import sys, os from spambayes.tokenizer import tokenize from spambayes.classifier import Bayes from spambayes.hammie import Hammie from spambayes import storage db = os.path.join(os.environ['HOME'], '.hammiedb') classifier = storage.open_storage(db, 'dbm', 'r') hammie = Hammie(classifier) nnml, relpath = sys.argv[1].split(':') relpath = relpath.replace('.', os.sep) fullpath = os.path.join(os.environ['HOME'], 'Mail', relpath, sys.argv[2]) message = file(fullpath).read() ptotal, clues = hammie.score(message, evidence=True) print 'Probability spam', ptotal swap = [ (p,word) for word, p in clues] swap.sort() swap.reverse() for item in swap: print ' %1.1f : %s'%item ### Traceback Traceback (most recent call last): File "python/examples/spambayes_hammie.py", line 13, in ? ptotal, clues = hammie.score(message, evidence=True) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 62, in score return self._scoremsg(msg, evidence) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 38, in _scoremsg return self.bayes.spamprob(tokenize(msg), evidence) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 196, in chi2_spamprob clues = self._getclues(wordstream) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 499, in _getclues tup = self._worddistanceget(word) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 514, in _worddistanceget prob = self.probability(record) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 314, in probability assert hamcount <= nham, "Token seen in more ham than ham trained." AssertionError: Token seen in more ham than ham trained. From jarett at ssc.ucla.edu Fri Jul 1 18:50:49 2005 From: jarett at ssc.ucla.edu (Jarett) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:50:49 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <200507011648.j61Gm9nJ012610@weber.sscnet.ucla.edu> Hi, Attached is the logs. I tried following the directions by registering the addin.dll by command line and also by the exe file. I tried resetting the toolbars and I deleted the outcmd.dat and all of them failed to work. The spambayes1.log is the most recent. Thank yoU! Jarett Horinouchi SSC Lab Manager 310-206-5889 Social Sciences Computing http://computing.sscnet.ucla.edu/ Hi, I love your product and I think it's amazing. I have all my friends use it and they love it too. I am running Spambayes 1.04 and up till today it was working smoothly. It stopped responding so I tried to uninstall and reinstall and the toolbar was left on Outlook 2003. 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I have all my friends use it and they love it too. I am running Spambayes 1.04 and up till today it was working smoothly. It stopped responding so I tried to uninstall and reinstall and the toolbar was left on Outlook 2003. After trying to install Spambayes 1.1, the toolbar still would not respond. I ended up deleting the toolbar from the Oulook Options - Customize - delete Spamybayes but now when I run the installer for Spambayes 1.1, the toolbar refuses to show. Can I remedy this some how? Thank you! Jarett Horinouchi SSC Lab Manager 310-206-5889 Social Sciences Computing http://computing.sscnet.ucla.edu/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is nothing to review. > > Have you changed your mail client to connect to localhost? > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Doc2.doc Type: application/msword Size: 99328 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050701/5172cc4a/Doc2-0001.doc From arjan.hulst at hccnet.nl Sat Jul 2 11:54:57 2005 From: arjan.hulst at hccnet.nl (Arjan) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:54:57 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <001101c57eec$1b003ff0$0c01a8c0@freeflow3> We experience this problem with every mail we receive. May be it is something now to you. Otherwise I can send even more screen prints if necessary. 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From claude_jones at levitjames.com Sat Jul 2 22:57:02 2005 From: claude_jones at levitjames.com (Claude Jones) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:57:02 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] upgrading from Fedora Core 3 to FC4 seems to have lost my database Message-ID: <200507021657.02374.claude_jones@levitjames.com> I'm using sb_server in proxy mode with KMail. After upgrading from Fedora Core 3 to Fedora Core 4, my database seems to have vanished. I opened the training page, and all messages appeared as unsure. Not a big deal, and I am retraining now. Any idea, Tony, of why this might have happenned? -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From galilia at cs.bgu.ac.il Sun Jul 3 22:17:17 2005 From: galilia at cs.bgu.ac.il (Asaf cs) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:17:17 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] problem using spamBayes Message-ID: <001b01c5800c$37b9bf10$b01bda51@homeetgps5f9sm> hello, I am using spamBayes in .procmailrc. The .procmailrc is: :0fw | /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -f -d $HOME/.spambayes/.hammie.db :0 H * ^X-Spambayes-Classification: ham { :0c | /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -g SOMTHING } :0 H * ^X-Spambayes-Classification: spam { :0c | /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -s SOMTHING } The problem is that I always get the follow answer: X-Spambayes-Classification: ham; 0.00 But when I use the follow command in the command line: /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -f -d $HOME/.spambayes/.hammie.db < MESSAGE I get a correct answer (different values and not only 0.00) Does anyone know what can it be? thank you, Asaf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050703/fab455dc/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 4 05:08:13 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:08:13 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] problem using spamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am using spamBayes in .procmailrc. > The .procmailrc is: > > :0fw > | /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -f -d $HOME/.spambayes/.hammie.db [...] > | /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -g [...] > | /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -s [...] > The problem is that I always get the follow answer: > > X-Spambayes-Classification: ham; 0.00 > > But when I use the follow command in the command line: > > /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -f -d $HOME/.spambayes/.hammie.db < MESSAGE I don't know pretty much anything about procmail, so if the problem is there I won't be able to help. (You might want to try reposting this if you don't get an answer and mentioning procmail in the subject - that will help draw the attention of those that know it who might miss the question among the Outlook Express user problems :) Perhaps it's not always referring to the same database? Is $HOME the same value in the procmail script as when run from the command line (e.g. it's the same user?). Maybe you need to be specifying the database in the two train commands? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 4 05:09:57 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:09:57 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am running Spambayes 1.04 and up till today it was > working smoothly. It stopped responding so I tried to > uninstall and reinstall and the toolbar was left on > Outlook 2003. After trying to install Spambayes 1.1, > the toolbar still would not respond. See if Outlook has disabled the plug-in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 4 05:13:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:13:47 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] FAQ short on logon & security In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Yes. I am presuming that the action taken in the attached > .doc file is the action you direct. > [Attached .doc file shows screenshot of Outlook Express mail accounts, one of which is named "localhost"] > > If not true, please inform. Still have nothing to review. But I > am still receiving emails, spam and all. The screenshot shows that the account is *named* localhost, but is that where is connecting (can't tell from the screenshot). That is, if you open the properties for that account and go to the "servers" tab, is the incoming mail server name set to "localhost" (no quotes)? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 4 05:53:48 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:53:48 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] upgrading from Fedora Core 3 to FC4 seems to have lostmy database In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm using sb_server in proxy mode with KMail. After upgrading > from Fedora Core 3 to Fedora Core 4, my database seems to have > vanished. I don't know what happens when you do that upgrade, so I can't be sure. Guesses: 1. Did the contents of your home directory get copied/moved somewhere new? Maybe files that start with '.' didn't get copied/moved? 2. Are you using a new username? If the home directory has changed, then the old database won't be there. 3. Did the python version change? I'm not sure how that would effect it, but maybe it did. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 4 05:59:57 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:59:57 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Token seen in more ham than ham trained In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am using spambayes with nnml/gnus and started getting this error > message when filtering incoming mail (complete traceback below) [...] > AssertionError: Token seen in more ham than ham trained. There are basically two ways that this can happen (and if it does, you should really retrain): 1. The database gets corrupted. There's a key in the database that tracks the total number of ham/spam trained. A long time back, there were cases when these ended up as 0s - e.g. through interupption of the database storing. I'm not aware of any ways for it to happen now (using the standard methods), but it's possible. 2. You untrain messages that haven't been trained. This is not a good idea, and will lead to both this error and one during training. > The only thing mildly nonstandard that I am doing with my database is > using a standalone script sb_classify_nnml.py below to report the > classifier results, much like classify does in the web interface. What do you do to train messages? The problem will be caused by something to do with training, not with classifying. [...] > Is there a way to fix my database, or otherwise avoid this error, > other than retraining? You can use the sb_dbexpimp.py script to convert the database to CSV, manually correct the counts, and then convert back to whatever format it is currently in. Retraining is preferable, though (especially since SpamBayes learns very fast), as you don't really know exactly what is wrong with the database. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 4 06:05:49 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:05:49 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion for SpamBayes: statistics for processedmessages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > actually I gave a try to the v1.1a1 and I found some > nice statistics. However I would like to have some others > reports, mainly more on "spamming" statistics than on > spambayes capabilities. [...] I've added these to the sf tracker: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 4 06:09:00 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:09:00 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with SpamByes 1.0.4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > for a long long time the add-in just worked perfectly > and then suddenly it does not any more. I haven't change > anything. I tried to reinstall and made it. After the > installation i configured it, but the add-in is keep > telling me, that I can not choose one and the same folder > for spam und uncertain messages. I DIDN'T CHOOSE ONE AND > THE SAME FOLDER. I have selected two different. Could you send us a copy of your most recent log file? If you try to select different folders for unsure/spam, does it work? Are the folders that you have chosen special in any way? (e.g. inside each other, in the Deleted Items folder, ...) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 4 06:15:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:15:46 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes lost its mind... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > All of a sudden, Spambayes started moving all of my > good massages to the junk mail folder. I "retrained" it, > without any noticeable improvements. How do I fix this problem? If you take a look at the log file (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->Show Log) what does it say when this happens? Does it say that the message was classified as ham/good, or spam? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From galilia at cs.bgu.ac.il Mon Jul 4 07:32:21 2005 From: galilia at cs.bgu.ac.il (galili assaf) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:32:21 +0300 (IDT) Subject: [Spambayes] problem using spamBayes with .procmailrc Message-ID: <200507040532.j645WLc2010840@indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il> hello, I am using spamBayes in .procmailrc. The .procmailrc is: :0fw | /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -f -d $HOME/.spambayes/.hammie.db :0 H * ^X-Spambayes-Classification: ham { :0c | /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -g SOMTHING } :0 H * ^X-Spambayes-Classification: spam { :0c | /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -s SOMTHING } The problem is that I always get the follow answer: X-Spambayes-Classification: ham; 0.00 But when I use the follow command in the command line: /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -f -d $HOME/.spambayes/.hammie.db < MESSAGE I get a correct answer (different values and not only 0.00) Does anyone know what can it be? thank you, Asaf From impracticable at mckennan.com Mon Jul 4 10:04:09 2005 From: impracticable at mckennan.com (Joseph) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 04:04:09 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Software for System Builders, Resellers, and Hardware Purchasers Only. Message-ID: <119419118134.56794107120@host-200-58-65-62.supernet.com.bo> Enabling the digital future. http://afqfg.mt81p3mfjemb15m.canellaih.info Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. The greater man the greater courtesy. From rafael.scholl at bbox.ch Mon Jul 4 14:41:54 2005 From: rafael.scholl at bbox.ch (Rafael Scholl) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:41:54 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050704143953.01e6fee8@mail.bbox.ch> Hi everyone, I have updated to the most recent version of SpamBayes. Now I receive this error when using sb_imapfilter.py with the option -e y: C:\Python24\Scripts>sb_imapfilter.py -c -v -e y SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 1.1a1 (April 2005). Loading database C:\Python24\Scripts\hammie.db...Loading state from C:\Python24\ Scripts\hammie.db database C:\Python24\Scripts\hammie.db is an existing database, with 41 spam and 146 ham Done. Account: MAILACCOUNT Classifying ........ Classified 0 ham, 0 spam, and 0 unsure. Classifying took 0.5000 seconds. Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Python24\Scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1203, in ? run() File "C:\Python24\Scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1187, in run imap.logout() File "C:\Python24\Scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 223, in logout self.select(options["imap", fol]) File "C:\Python24\lib\imaplib.py", line 624, in select typ, dat = self._simple_command(name, mailbox) File "C:\Python24\lib\imaplib.py", line 1028, in _simple_command return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) File "C:\Python24\lib\imaplib.py", line 865, in _command_complete raise self.error('%s command error: %s %s' % (name, typ, data)) imaplib.error: SELECT command error: BAD ['too few arguments for SELECT'] C:\Python24\Scripts> Can anyone help? Rafael Scholl * Passed viruscheck by Kaspersky Lab Business Enterprise Scanner * From scheffel at ebucksmail.com Mon Jul 4 21:08:00 2005 From: scheffel at ebucksmail.com (Peter Scheffel) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:08:00 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express Version Message-ID: <000c01c580cb$b5dd1ad0$8400a8c0@RDSWORK> Hi guys Is anyone working on an Outlook Express Version? Regards Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050704/7e6579af/attachment.htm From shiloh at nycap.rr.com Mon Jul 4 23:15:03 2005 From: shiloh at nycap.rr.com (shiloh@nycap.rr.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy Message-ID: <200507042115.j64LF3IU019004@ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From jsp at PKC.com Tue Jul 5 14:28:50 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:28:50 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express Version Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15557@PKCVT01.pkc.com> SpamBayes already works with Outlook Express. However, OE is a completely different product from Outlook for which it is difficult to create Outlook-style plugins. See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express . If your question is intended to find out whether you would be duplicating effort if you were to develop an OE plugin (assuming it's possible), the answer is no, you wouldn't be duplicating effort (and many OE users would be grateful if you succeeded)! ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Peter Scheffel Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 3:08 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express Version Hi guys Is anyone working on an Outlook Express Version? Regards Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Take a look at FAQ 4.21: If you have any trouble with the setup, please let us know. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jul 6 05:04:07 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:04:07 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Beta3, version 0.3 (December 2003), This is a very old version. I highly recommend downloading and installing the latest version, 1.0.4: > I'm using Microsoft internet Explorer and my mail service is with > outlook express. I think that I probably have made a mistake seting > up my email configurations for spambayes. But I'm not sure if my > problem is in the port setings or what. Take a look at FAQ 4.21: If that doesn't help, please let us know what you have put for the various settings, and what happens when you try and get new mail. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jul 6 05:07:03 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:07:03 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook crashes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am having frequent outlook crashes. Attached are the logs The logs don't contain any clues, unfortunately. Do the crashes occur when you are doing something particular, or seemingly at random? If you uninstall SpamBayes, do the crashes stop? (You can uninstall and reinstall without losing your configuration or training data). Try using the Inbox Repair Wizard (scanpst.exe) on any PST files you have opened in Outlook. Try doing a "Detect and Repair" in Outlook as well. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jul 6 05:08:39 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:08:39 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have updated to the most recent version of SpamBayes. Now I > receive this error when using sb_imapfilter.py with the option -e y: > > C:\Python24\Scripts>sb_imapfilter.py -c -v -e y > SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 1.1a1 (April 2005). [...] > imaplib.error: SELECT command error: BAD ['too few arguments > for SELECT'] Could you rerun that with "-i4" as well ("sb_imapfilter.py -c -v -e y -i4"), capture the output, REMOVE YOUR PASSWORD from the output, and send that to us? The extra debugging info will help figure out what the problem is. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From seqenenra at hotpop.com Wed Jul 6 06:21:17 2005 From: seqenenra at hotpop.com (Tim) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:21:17 +0900 Subject: [Spambayes] DB error... Message-ID: <42CB5C3D.5010206@hotpop.com> Going to try and delete my database and try again. SpamBayes Web Interface: Home > Review *Training... * *500 Server error* *Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 470, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/ProxyUI.py", line 416, in onReview fromCache=True) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Corpus.py", line 188, in takeMessage self.addMessage(msg) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/FileCorpus.py", line 102, in addMessage Corpus.Corpus.addMessage(self, message) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Corpus.py", line 134, in addMessage obs.onAddMessage(message, observer_flags) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 798, in onAddMessage self.train(message) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 809, in train message.RememberTrained(self.is_spam) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 409, in RememberTrained self.modified() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 377, in modified self.message_info_db.store_msg(self) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 181, in store_msg self.db[msg.getDBKey()] = attributes File "/usr/lib/python2.3/shelve.py", line 130, in __setitem__ self.dict[key] = f.getvalue() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/bsddb/__init__.py", line 120, in __setitem__ self.db[key] = value DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') * From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jul 6 06:35:49 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:35:49 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] DB error... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Going to try and delete my database and try again. [...] > DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, > run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') That's the correct thing to do. Note that you only need to delete the messageinfo database, not hammie.db. If this keeps reoccuring, please let us know (including which version of SpamBayes you are using). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From jim_miller at cox.net Wed Jul 6 06:38:25 2005 From: jim_miller at cox.net (Jim Miller) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:38:25 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] FAQ short on logon & security References: Message-ID: <002001c581e4$8c8c51e0$640fa8c0@server> Well ... sometimes I just feel like yelling "DOH!!". I just trained two emails. The one I trained as Ham made it to my email account. The Spam did not. Thank you for your help. Sincerely. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Jim Miller'" Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:13 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] FAQ short on logon & security > Yes. I am presuming that the action taken in the attached > .doc file is the action you direct. > [Attached .doc file shows screenshot of Outlook Express mail accounts, one of which is named "localhost"] > > If not true, please inform. Still have nothing to review. But I > am still receiving emails, spam and all. The screenshot shows that the account is *named* localhost, but is that where is connecting (can't tell from the screenshot). That is, if you open the properties for that account and go to the "servers" tab, is the incoming mail server name set to "localhost" (no quotes)? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jul 6 06:59:32 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:59:32 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] DB error... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I went ahead and used the pickle option. I have the feeling > that it would keep on happening. The version I am using is > 1.1a1 (April 2005). 1.1a1 has a major problem with sb_server and will continually corrupt the messageinfo database. You'll probably find that the pickle doesn't get corrupted, but is really slow. When we find time to release 1.1a2, this will be fixed - for now, I highly recommend only using sb_server with 1.0.4 or source from CVS. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tandcl at homemail.com.au Wed Jul 6 08:39:09 2005 From: tandcl at homemail.com.au (Trevor Lawrence) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:39:09 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Fw: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Message-ID: <000901c581f5$6a5408f0$0401a8c0@trevorymo1ec4a> Re my previous message. I attempted to forward a Spam message to localhost to train SpamBayes and it failed AVG for Email wrote: > This is the AVG E-mail Scanner program. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > spambayes_spam at localhost: Unknown local part spambayes_spam in > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Your e-mail message is being returned to you in the next part of this > message. Try to send the message again. > > Should you need assistance, please contact your administrator or your > internet service provider. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Trevor Lawrence" Subject: =?BIG5?B?Rnc6IKvctM6quqpGpuio06zdrN2nYSE=?= Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:26:38 +1000 Size: 2331 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050706/670c468b/Fw_-0001.eml -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/41 - Release Date: 05/07/05 From seqenenra at hotpop.com Wed Jul 6 09:53:42 2005 From: seqenenra at hotpop.com (Tim) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:53:42 +0900 Subject: [Spambayes] DB error... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42CB8E06.4090604@hotpop.com> Tony Meyer wrote: >>I went ahead and used the pickle option. I have the feeling >>that it would keep on happening. The version I am using is >>1.1a1 (April 2005). >> >> > >1.1a1 has a major problem with sb_server and will continually corrupt the >messageinfo database. You'll probably find that the pickle doesn't get >corrupted, but is really slow. When we find time to release 1.1a2, this >will be fixed - for now, I highly recommend only using sb_server with 1.0.4 >or source from CVS. > >=Tony.Meyer > > I am too stupid to read your signature line, and was not replying to all, plus it was early in the morning and I am not much of a morning person. I am not sure what you mean by slow when using the pickle. It seems to work okay enough on my end, and it is faster than sorting through about 20 pieces of spam to find one valid email from a family member or a friend. I think I'll stick with the 1.1a1 version for now since I am already using the pickle, and it just works which is important right now. I am glad looking at the above paragraph that you didn't decide to call it a cucumber. Tim From rafael.scholl at bbox.ch Wed Jul 6 11:31:18 2005 From: rafael.scholl at bbox.ch (Rafael Scholl) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:31:18 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706112954.01ec9da8@mail.bbox.ch> >Could you rerun that with "-i4" as well ("sb_imapfilter.py -c -v -e y -i4"), >capture the output, REMOVE YOUR PASSWORD from the output, and send that to >us? The extra debugging info will help figure out what the problem is. Here it is: C:\Python24\Scripts>sb_imapfilter.py -c -v -e y -i4 SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 1.1a1 (April 2005). Loading database C:\Python24\Scripts\hammie.db...Loading state from C:\Python24\ Scripts\hammie.db database C:\Python24\Scripts\hammie.db is an existing database, with 41 spam and 146 ham Done. Account: mail.bbox.ch:143 28:06.18 > EDGG1 LOGIN 28:06.20 < EDGG1 OK LOGIN completed Classifying 28:06.20 > EDGG2 SELECT SPAM 28:06.39 < * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) 28:06.39 < * 45 EXISTS 28:06.39 < * 0 RECENT 28:06.39 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft \*)] 28:06.39 < * OK [UNSEEN 41] Message 1 is first unseen 28:06.39 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 496752243] UIDs are valid 28:06.39 < EDGG2 OK [READ-WRITE] opened SPAM 28:06.39 > EDGG3 CLOSE 28:06.40 < EDGG3 OK CLOSE succeeded 28:06.40 > EDGG4 SELECT Unsure 28:06.43 < * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) 28:06.43 < * 5 EXISTS 28:06.43 < * 0 RECENT 28:06.43 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft \*)] 28:06.43 < * OK [UNSEEN 3] Message 3 is first unseen 28:06.43 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 439904357] UIDs are valid 28:06.43 < EDGG4 OK [READ-WRITE] opened Unsure 28:06.43 > EDGG5 CLOSE 28:06.45 < EDGG5 OK CLOSE succeeded 28:06.45 > EDGG6 SELECT INBOX 28:06.46 < * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) 28:06.46 < * 30 EXISTS 28:06.46 < * 0 RECENT 28:06.46 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft \*)] 28:06.46 < * OK [UNSEEN 7] Message 14 is first unseen 28:06.46 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 331763843] UIDs are valid 28:06.46 < EDGG6 OK [READ-WRITE] opened INBOX 28:06.46 > EDGG7 UID SEARCH UNDELETED 28:06.48 < * SEARCH 389619730 389619732 389619733 389619734 389619736 38961973 7 389619741 389619742 389619743 389619745 389619747 389619748 389619753 38961979 9 389619800 389619801 389619803 389619804 389619808 389619811 389619814 38961981 6 389619817 389619818 389619819 389619820 389619821 389619822 389619823 38961982 4 28:06.48 < EDGG7 OK UID SEARCH completed 28:06.48 > EDGG8 UID FETCH 389619730 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.51 < * 1 FETCH (UID 389619730 RFC822.HEADER {2701} 28:06.51 read literal size 2701 28:06.51 < ) 28:06.51 < EDGG8 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.51 > EDGG9 UID FETCH 389619732 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.54 < * 2 FETCH (UID 389619732 RFC822.HEADER {2599} 28:06.54 read literal size 2599 28:06.54 < ) 28:06.54 < EDGG9 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.54 > EDGG10 UID FETCH 389619733 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.56 < * 3 FETCH (UID 389619733 RFC822.HEADER {1230} 28:06.56 read literal size 1230 28:06.56 < ) 28:06.56 < EDGG10 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.57 > EDGG11 UID FETCH 389619734 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.60 < * 4 FETCH (UID 389619734 RFC822.HEADER {2055} 28:06.60 read literal size 2055 28:06.60 < ) 28:06.60 < EDGG11 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.60 > EDGG12 UID FETCH 389619736 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.62 < * 5 FETCH (UID 389619736 RFC822.HEADER {1923} 28:06.62 read literal size 1923 28:06.62 < ) 28:06.62 < EDGG12 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.64 > EDGG13 UID FETCH 389619737 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.65 < * 6 FETCH (UID 389619737 RFC822.HEADER {1183} 28:06.65 read literal size 1183 28:06.65 < ) 28:06.65 < EDGG13 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.65 > EDGG14 UID FETCH 389619741 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.68 < * 7 FETCH (UID 389619741 RFC822.HEADER {1767} 28:06.68 read literal size 1767 28:06.68 < ) 28:06.68 < EDGG14 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.68 > EDGG15 UID FETCH 389619742 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.70 < * 8 FETCH (UID 389619742 RFC822.HEADER {1767} 28:06.70 read literal size 1767 28:06.70 < ) 28:06.70 < EDGG15 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.71 > EDGG16 UID FETCH 389619743 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.73 < * 9 FETCH (UID 389619743 RFC822.HEADER {1741} 28:06.73 read literal size 1741 28:06.73 < ) 28:06.73 < EDGG16 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.73 > EDGG17 UID FETCH 389619745 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.76 < * 10 FETCH (UID 389619745 RFC822.HEADER {1694} 28:06.76 read literal size 1694 28:06.76 < ) 28:06.76 < EDGG17 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.76 > EDGG18 UID FETCH 389619747 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.79 < * 11 FETCH (UID 389619747 RFC822.HEADER {1682} 28:06.79 read literal size 1682 28:06.79 < ) 28:06.79 < EDGG18 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.79 > EDGG19 UID FETCH 389619748 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.82 < * 12 FETCH (UID 389619748 RFC822.HEADER {2107} 28:06.82 read literal size 2107 28:06.82 < ) 28:06.82 < EDGG19 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.82 > EDGG20 UID FETCH 389619753 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.85 < * 13 FETCH (UID 389619753 RFC822.HEADER {1235} 28:06.85 read literal size 1235 28:06.85 < ) 28:06.85 < EDGG20 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.85 > EDGG21 UID FETCH 389619799 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.87 < * 14 FETCH (UID 389619799 RFC822.HEADER {1150} 28:06.87 read literal size 1150 28:06.87 < ) 28:06.87 < EDGG21 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.89 > EDGG22 UID FETCH 389619800 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.90 < * 15 FETCH (UID 389619800 RFC822.HEADER {1083} 28:06.90 read literal size 1083 28:06.90 < ) 28:06.90 < EDGG22 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.90 > EDGG23 UID FETCH 389619801 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.93 < * 16 FETCH (UID 389619801 RFC822.HEADER {1935} 28:06.93 read literal size 1935 28:06.93 < ) 28:06.93 < EDGG23 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.93 > EDGG24 UID FETCH 389619803 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.95 < * 17 FETCH (UID 389619803 RFC822.HEADER {1276} 28:06.95 read literal size 1276 28:06.95 < ) 28:06.95 < EDGG24 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.96 > EDGG25 UID FETCH 389619804 RFC822.HEADER 28:06.98 < * 18 FETCH (UID 389619804 RFC822.HEADER {2114} 28:06.98 read literal size 2114 28:06.98 < ) 28:06.98 < EDGG25 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:06.98 > EDGG26 UID FETCH 389619808 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.01 < * 19 FETCH (UID 389619808 RFC822.HEADER {1588} 28:07.01 read literal size 1588 28:07.01 < ) 28:07.01 < EDGG26 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.01 > EDGG27 UID FETCH 389619811 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.03 < * 20 FETCH (UID 389619811 RFC822.HEADER {1978} 28:07.03 read literal size 1978 28:07.03 < ) 28:07.03 < EDGG27 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.04 > EDGG28 UID FETCH 389619814 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.06 < * 21 FETCH (UID 389619814 RFC822.HEADER {1551} 28:07.06 read literal size 1551 28:07.06 < ) 28:07.06 < EDGG28 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.06 > EDGG29 UID FETCH 389619816 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.09 < * 22 FETCH (UID 389619816 RFC822.HEADER {2413} 28:07.09 read literal size 2413 28:07.09 < ) 28:07.09 < EDGG29 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.09 > EDGG30 UID FETCH 389619817 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.10 < * 23 FETCH (UID 389619817 RFC822.HEADER {2146} 28:07.10 read literal size 2146 28:07.10 < ) 28:07.10 < EDGG30 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.12 > EDGG31 UID FETCH 389619818 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.15 < * 24 FETCH (UID 389619818 RFC822.HEADER {2244} 28:07.15 read literal size 2244 28:07.15 < ) 28:07.15 < EDGG31 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.15 > EDGG32 UID FETCH 389619819 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.17 < * 25 FETCH (UID 389619819 RFC822.HEADER {1142} 28:07.18 read literal size 1142 28:07.18 < ) 28:07.18 < EDGG32 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.18 > EDGG33 UID FETCH 389619820 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.20 < * 26 FETCH (UID 389619820 RFC822.HEADER {1142} 28:07.20 read literal size 1142 28:07.20 < ) 28:07.20 < EDGG33 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.20 > EDGG34 UID FETCH 389619821 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.23 < * 27 FETCH (UID 389619821 RFC822.HEADER {1262} 28:07.23 read literal size 1262 28:07.23 < ) 28:07.23 < EDGG34 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.23 > EDGG35 UID FETCH 389619822 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.26 < * 28 FETCH (UID 389619822 RFC822.HEADER {1323} 28:07.26 read literal size 1323 28:07.26 < ) 28:07.26 < EDGG35 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.26 > EDGG36 UID FETCH 389619823 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.29 < * 29 FETCH (UID 389619823 RFC822.HEADER {1188} 28:07.29 read literal size 1188 28:07.29 < ) 28:07.29 < EDGG36 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.29 > EDGG37 UID FETCH 389619824 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.32 < * 30 FETCH (UID 389619824 RFC822.HEADER {1023} 28:07.32 read literal size 1023 28:07.32 < ) 28:07.32 < EDGG37 OK UID FETCH completed . 28:07.32 > EDGG38 CLOSE 28:07.34 < EDGG38 OK CLOSE succeeded 28:07.34 > EDGG39 SELECT p-spam 28:07.37 < * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) 28:07.37 < * 4 EXISTS 28:07.37 < * 0 RECENT 28:07.37 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft \*)] 28:07.37 < * OK [UNSEEN 1] Message 4 is first unseen 28:07.37 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 450699319] UIDs are valid 28:07.37 < EDGG39 OK [READ-WRITE] opened p-spam 28:07.37 > EDGG40 UID SEARCH UNDELETED 28:07.39 < * SEARCH 450744182 28:07.39 < EDGG40 OK UID SEARCH completed 28:07.39 > EDGG41 UID FETCH 450744182 RFC822.HEADER 28:07.40 < * 4 FETCH (UID 450744182 RFC822.HEADER {992} 28:07.40 read literal size 992 28:07.40 < ) 28:07.42 < EDGG41 OK UID FETCH completed . Classified 0 ham, 0 spam, and 0 unsure. Classifying took 1.2180 seconds. 28:07.42 > EDGG42 SELECT SPAM 28:07.43 < * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) 28:07.43 < * 45 EXISTS 28:07.43 < * 0 RECENT 28:07.43 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft \*)] 28:07.43 < * OK [UNSEEN 41] Message 1 is first unseen 28:07.43 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 496752243] UIDs are valid 28:07.43 < EDGG42 OK [READ-WRITE] opened SPAM 28:07.43 > EDGG43 EXPUNGE 28:07.45 < EDGG43 OK EXPUNGE completed 28:07.45 > EDGG44 SELECT Unsure 28:07.48 < * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) 28:07.48 < * 5 EXISTS 28:07.48 < * 0 RECENT 28:07.48 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft \*)] 28:07.48 < * OK [UNSEEN 3] Message 3 is first unseen 28:07.48 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 439904357] UIDs are valid 28:07.48 < EDGG44 OK [READ-WRITE] opened Unsure 28:07.48 > EDGG45 EXPUNGE 28:07.50 < EDGG45 OK EXPUNGE completed 28:07.50 > EDGG46 SELECT "" 28:07.51 < EDGG46 BAD too few arguments for SELECT 28:07.51 BAD response: too few arguments for SELECT Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Python24\Scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1203, in ? run() File "C:\Python24\Scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1187, in run imap.logout() File "C:\Python24\Scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 223, in logout self.select(options["imap", fol]) File "C:\Python24\lib\imaplib.py", line 624, in select typ, dat = self._simple_command(name, mailbox) File "C:\Python24\lib\imaplib.py", line 1028, in _simple_command return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) File "C:\Python24\lib\imaplib.py", line 865, in _command_complete raise self.error('%s command error: %s %s' % (name, typ, data)) imaplib.error: SELECT command error: BAD ['too few arguments for SELECT'] C:\Python24\Scripts> * Passed viruscheck by Kaspersky Lab Business Enterprise Scanner * From seqenenra at hotpop.com Wed Jul 6 17:02:37 2005 From: seqenenra at hotpop.com (Tim) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:02:37 +0900 Subject: [Spambayes] DB error... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42CBF28D.9070008@hotpop.com> Tony Meyer wrote: >>I went ahead and used the pickle option. I have the feeling >>that it would keep on happening. The version I am using is >>1.1a1 (April 2005). >> >> > >1.1a1 has a major problem with sb_server and will continually corrupt the >messageinfo database. You'll probably find that the pickle doesn't get >corrupted, but is really slow. When we find time to release 1.1a2, this >will be fixed - for now, I highly recommend only using sb_server with 1.0.4 >or source from CVS. > >=Tony.Meyer > > I am not sure what I did to spambayes, but it sure isn't liking me too much. Everything was running great today after I started using the pickle, and then this evening it crapped out with the following. SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.1a1 (April 2005) Loading database... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_server.py", line 1096, in ? run() File "/usr/bin/sb_server.py", line 1084, in run prepare() File "/usr/bin/sb_server.py", line 1009, in prepare state.prepare(can_stop) File "/usr/bin/sb_server.py", line 808, in prepare self.createWorkers() File "/usr/bin/sb_server.py", line 874, in createWorkers self.mdb = spambayes.message.open_storage(self.MDBName, self.useMDB) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 269, in open_storage return klass(data_source_name) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 193, in __init__ self.load() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 205, in load self.db = pickle.load(fp) EOFError Any ideas? From dsfurbush at earthlink.net Wed Jul 6 19:01:12 2005 From: dsfurbush at earthlink.net (Dennis S. Furbush) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:01:12 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail doesn't go to Spam Suspects Message-ID: <000001c5824c$50a71620$0200a8c0@dennisdxzx8dnh> The first time I used sambayes, it configured it correctly for OUTLOOK and the mail automatically downloaded to Spam suspects. The next day I tried to download messages again and they all went to my INBOX, not the Spam Suspects file. How do I get it to download to the Spam Suspects file and not INBOX? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050706/90314653/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Wed Jul 6 20:44:18 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:44:18 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail doesn't go to Spam Suspects Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F1556D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> If SpamBayes is installed correctly, you should have extra buttons in the Outlook toolbar labeled "Delete As Spam" and/or "Recover From Spam" (depending on the current Outlook folder). Any time SpamBayes fails to classify a message correctly, you can click the appropriate button to a) train SpamBayes so it can classify similar messages correctly in the future and b) move the message to the appropriate location. Once the system has enough training to function well, few messages will go to your Spam Suspects folder. Most messages will be classified as good mail ("ham") and left in your inbox or spam and moved to your spam folder. Since the messages you receive will almost certainly change over time, SpamBayes is always open to correction using its toolbar buttons. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Dennis S. Furbush Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 1:01 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Mail doesn't go to Spam Suspects The first time I used sambayes, it configured it correctly for OUTLOOK and the mail automatically downloaded to Spam suspects. The next day I tried to download messages again and they all went to my INBOX, not the Spam Suspects file. How do I get it to download to the Spam Suspects file and not INBOX? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050706/59bbf238/attachment.htm From dandill at gmail.com Wed Jul 6 21:32:55 2005 From: dandill at gmail.com (Dan Dill) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:32:55 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes with terminal services Message-ID: <6debba4705070612323d54fdf4@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone had experience with spambayes with MS terminal services? I thought that outlook add-ins are profile-based and thus if one person installs it that will not affect another terminal services user on the same server, can anyone confirm or deny this? Thanks, Dan Dill From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jul 6 23:53:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:53:46 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] Good Morning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I was on your website FAQ page and couldn't find an answer to > several questions: Please ask questions like this on spambayes at python.org. spambayes-dev is for discussion about the development of spambayes. > 1. How do you get Spambayes to accept all those in your > contact lists as "good", not as "suspect" spam without > clicking on one suspect spam at a time? This is called whitelisting. See FAQ 6.6: > 2. I have been trying over and over to train the software > to accept an email address as good (ie., not suspect spam). > I was clicking on "recover from spam", assuming this was what > was telling the program that the email addy was ok. SpamBayes isn't a whitelist/blacklist system. Decisions aren't based on addresses, they are based on statistical analysis of the entire mail. If you don't understand why a message scores what it does, then take a look at the clues for the message (the "clues" link in the web interface, the "Show clues for this message" option in Outlook). If you don't understand after looking at the clues, then forward them to the list, and we will do our best to explain it to you. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Richard.B.Hall at nasa.gov Thu Jul 7 17:52:12 2005 From: Richard.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Richard B) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:52:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' or 'Precedence: list' Message-ID: How do I mark messages in spambayes as 'Precedence: bulk' or 'Precedence: list'? Thanks. Richard B. Hall Software Design Team (EI32) 544-3789 (voice) 544-8480 (fax) richard.b.hall at nasa.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050707/10419aeb/attachment.htm From jackieh at gslc.com Thu Jul 7 18:06:44 2005 From: jackieh at gslc.com (Jackie Hardy) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:06:44 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] quit working Message-ID: WE were using spambayes all the time, then it just quit working. The tool bars are still there, they click, the junk folders are there but mail doesn't move when you try to move it? We tried getting rid of toolbar and reinstalling it, changing the name of that folder in outlook to do the same thing and even eliminating the program and installing the newest version, still doese't work? Any help? Jackie Hardy Good Shepherd Lutheran Church Columbia, SC 29204 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050707/12d5280f/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Thu Jul 7 18:49:42 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:49:42 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' or'Precedence: list' Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15572@PKCVT01.pkc.com> You don't. SpamBayes performs a statistical comparison of the contents of each message to the ham and spam messages that you have previously trained on. Once it's sufficiently trained (which generally happens quickly) it will be quite good at classifying messages. How you train SpamBayes depends on which version you have; see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-train-spambayes-web-m ethod and the FAQ sections that follow it. It sounds like you want to do a form of blacklisting and/or whitelisting, which most modern e-mail clients can be configured to do. For more information on why SpamBayes does not do this, see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting -blacklisting-to-spambayes. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Hall, Richard B Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' or'Precedence: list' How do I mark messages in spambayes as 'Precedence: bulk' or 'Precedence: list'? Thanks. Richard B. Hall Software Design Team (EI32) 544-3789 (voice) 544-8480 (fax) richard.b.hall at nasa.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050707/d93ef901/attachment.htm From dandill at gmail.com Thu Jul 7 18:57:58 2005 From: dandill at gmail.com (Dan Dill) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:57:58 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] quit working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6debba470507070957340c4580@mail.gmail.com> Usually key things are what has changed when the software reportedly stopped working. Therein sometimes will lie your solution. Are the computers older ones and perhaps it just can't analyze the messages fast enough? On 7/7/05, Jackie Hardy wrote: > > WE were using spambayes all the time, then it just quit working. > The tool bars are still there, they click, the junk folders are there but > mail doesn't move when you try to move it? > We tried getting rid of toolbar and reinstalling it, changing the name of > that folder in outlook to do the same thing and > even eliminating the program and installing the newest version, still > doese't work? Any help? > Jackie Hardy > Good Shepherd Lutheran Church > Columbia, SC 29204 > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: > http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > From jsp at PKC.com Thu Jul 7 19:24:13 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:24:13 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' or'Precedence: list' Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15573@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Oops. Fools rush in... I don't use the proxy, and that's a feature I haven't seen discussed before, so you know more about the subject than I do. After digging around a bit, it appears to me that the "Precedence" header may be set by the message sender. It seems to be non-standard and discouraged by RFC 2076 (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2076.html), though, so I don't know how reliable it is. Anyone who actually knows something about the subject should feel free to speak up now. ________________________________ From: Hall, Richard B [mailto:Richard.B.Hall at nasa.gov] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:55 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' or'Precedence: list' So you are telling me that this paragraph is saying that SpamBayes does the Precedence: bulk or Precedence: list classifying/marking of messages? Suppress caching of bulk ham: Where message caching is enabled, this option suppresses caching of messages which are classified as ham and marked as 'Precedence: bulk' or 'Precedence: list'. If you subscribe to a high-volume mailing list then your 'Review messages' page can be overwhelmed with list messages, making training a pain. Once you've trained Spambayes on enough list traffic, you can use this option to prevent that traffic showing up in 'Review messages'. ________________________________ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:50 AM To: Hall, Richard B; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' or'Precedence: list' You don't. SpamBayes performs a statistical comparison of the contents of each message to the ham and spam messages that you have previously trained on. Once it's sufficiently trained (which generally happens quickly) it will be quite good at classifying messages. How you train SpamBayes depends on which version you have; see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-train-spambayes-web-m ethod and the FAQ sections that follow it. It sounds like you want to do a form of blacklisting and/or whitelisting, which most modern e-mail clients can be configured to do. For more information on why SpamBayes does not do this, see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting -blacklisting-to-spambayes. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Hall, Richard B Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' or'Precedence: list' How do I mark messages in spambayes as 'Precedence: bulk' or 'Precedence: list'? Thanks. Richard B. Hall Software Design Team (EI32) 544-3789 (voice) 544-8480 (fax) richard.b.hall at nasa.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050707/f3191b02/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Thu Jul 7 19:32:10 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:32:10 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] quit working Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15574@PKCVT01.pkc.com> There have been many reports of messages no longer being moved in Outlook. I had not idea what this was all about until last week when I finally installed Service Pack 2 for Windows XP. No it sometimes happens that a message is displayed in the wrong folder until I open another folder. If I try to open a message that clearly belongs in another folder, Outlook gives some sort of message about the message not existing. It's not clear to me from the original message whether this matches the reported symptoms. I know the SpamBayes developers would love to figure out why, or even under what circumstances, this sort of thing happens. (It may not be their problem, however.) So, to extend on your question about changes to the system, one thing to look for is installation of SP 2. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Dan Dill > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:58 PM > To: jackieh at gslc.com > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] quit working > > Usually key things are what has changed when the software reportedly > stopped working. Therein sometimes will lie your solution. > > Are the computers older ones and perhaps it just can't analyze the > messages fast enough? > > On 7/7/05, Jackie Hardy wrote: > > > > WE were using spambayes all the time, then it just quit working. > > The tool bars are still there, they click, the junk folders > are there but > > mail doesn't move when you try to move it? > > We tried getting rid of toolbar and reinstalling it, > changing the name of > > that folder in outlook to do the same thing and > > even eliminating the program and installing the newest > version, still > > doese't work? Any help? > > Jackie Hardy > > Good Shepherd Lutheran Church > > Columbia, SC 29204 From dandill at gmail.com Thu Jul 7 21:40:46 2005 From: dandill at gmail.com (Dan Dill) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:40:46 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' or'Precedence: list' In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15573@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15573@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <6debba4705070712403cebb8b3@mail.gmail.com> I'm surprised nasa hasn't implemented spamassasin as a network wide solution..... spamassasin.apache.org Spamassasin uses bayesian filtering as well as SPF checking, whitelisting, etc, etc. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SpamAssassin it's more complex but would support whitelisting and all that..... On 7/7/05, Jesse Pelton wrote: > > Oops. Fools rush in... > > I don't use the proxy, and that's a feature I haven't seen discussed before, > so you know more about the subject than I do. After digging around a bit, it > appears to me that the "Precedence" header may be set by the message sender. > It seems to be non-standard and discouraged by RFC 2076 > (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2076.html), though, so I don't > know how reliable it is. > > Anyone who actually knows something about the subject should feel free to > speak up now. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Hall, Richard B [mailto:Richard.B.Hall at nasa.gov] > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:55 PM > To: Jesse Pelton > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' > or'Precedence: list' > > > > > > So you are telling me that this paragraph is saying that SpamBayes does the > Precedence: bulk or Precedence: list classifying/marking of messages? > > > > Suppress caching of bulk ham: Where message caching is enabled, this option > suppresses caching of messages which are classified as ham and marked as > 'Precedence: bulk' or 'Precedence: list'. If you subscribe to a high-volume > mailing list then your 'Review messages' page can be overwhelmed with list > messages, making training a pain. Once you've trained Spambayes on enough > list traffic, you can use this option to prevent that traffic showing up in > 'Review messages'. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:50 AM > To: Hall, Richard B; spambayes at python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' > or'Precedence: list' > > > > You don't. SpamBayes performs a statistical comparison of the contents of > each message to the ham and spam messages that you have previously trained > on. Once it's sufficiently trained (which generally happens quickly) it will > be quite good at classifying messages. How you train SpamBayes depends on > which version you have; see > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-train-spambayes-web-method > and the FAQ sections that follow it. > > > > It sounds like you want to do a form of blacklisting and/or whitelisting, > which most modern e-mail clients can be configured to do. For more > information on why SpamBayes does not do this, see > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-blacklisting-to-spambayes. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On > Behalf Of Hall, Richard B > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:52 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' > or'Precedence: list' > > How do I mark messages in spambayes as 'Precedence: bulk' or 'Precedence: > list'? Thanks. > > > > Richard B. Hall > Software Design Team (EI32) > 544-3789 (voice) > 544-8480 (fax) > richard.b.hall at nasa.gov > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: > http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > From dandill at gmail.com Thu Jul 7 21:43:44 2005 From: dandill at gmail.com (Dan Dill) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:43:44 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] quit working In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15574@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15574@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <6debba4705070712435678ecc4@mail.gmail.com> I wouldn't expect that to cause problems (since it's just a plugin) but the devs would know more than I. Huh. On 7/7/05, Jesse Pelton wrote: > There have been many reports of messages no longer being moved in > Outlook. I had not idea what this was all about until last week when I > finally installed Service Pack 2 for Windows XP. No it sometimes > happens that a message is displayed in the wrong folder until I open > another folder. If I try to open a message that clearly belongs in > another folder, Outlook gives some sort of message about the message not > existing. It's not clear to me from the original message whether this > matches the reported symptoms. I know the SpamBayes developers would > love to figure out why, or even under what circumstances, this sort of > thing happens. (It may not be their problem, however.) > > So, to extend on your question about changes to the system, one thing to > look for is installation of SP 2. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Dan Dill > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:58 PM > > To: jackieh at gslc.com > > Cc: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] quit working > > > > Usually key things are what has changed when the software reportedly > > stopped working. Therein sometimes will lie your solution. > > > > Are the computers older ones and perhaps it just can't analyze the > > messages fast enough? > > > > On 7/7/05, Jackie Hardy wrote: > > > > > > WE were using spambayes all the time, then it just quit working. > > > The tool bars are still there, they click, the junk folders > > are there but > > > mail doesn't move when you try to move it? > > > We tried getting rid of toolbar and reinstalling it, > > changing the name of > > > that folder in outlook to do the same thing and > > > even eliminating the program and installing the newest > > version, still > > > doese't work? Any help? > > > Jackie Hardy > > > Good Shepherd Lutheran Church > > > Columbia, SC 29204 > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 01:40:39 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:40:39 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] How to mark messages as 'Precedence: bulk' or'Precedence: list' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I mark messages in spambayes as 'Precedence: bulk' > or 'Precedence: list'? As Jesse said, you don't. Some messages, particularly mailing list messages (this one, for example) insert a "Precedence" header into messages that are sent. These messages tend to be reasonably easy to classify, so you might want to not bother caching the messages (meaning that they can't be trained on). That's what the option you referred to does. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 01:42:27 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:42:27 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] quit working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > WE were using spambayes all the time, then it just quit working. See if Outlook has disabled the plug-in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From odegani at pacbell.net Fri Jul 8 01:55:22 2005 From: odegani at pacbell.net (Oded) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:55:22 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] My good messages are directed to the junk mail box Message-ID: <20050707235527.8CEA61E4004@bag.python.org> All of a sudden, after a year of good experience with spambayes, all of my good messages are directed to the junk mail box while many junk mail ends up in my "In" box. I was instructed to look at log file (attached), but there is so much data there I am not sure what to look for Attempts to retrain the system didn't help I tried to remove Spam Bayes using the Windows "Add/Remove", but it didn't remove it!!! Why? Re-Installation didn't help. How can I proceed? Thanks, Oded Oded ______________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050707/ca91b903/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 13035 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050707/ca91b903/spambayes1.obj From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 02:00:23 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:00:23 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] My good messages are directed to the junk mail box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > All of a sudden, after a year of good experience with > spambayes, all of my good messages are directed to the > junk mail box while many junk mail ends up in my "In" box. The most important part of the log is probably this: > Bayes database initialized with 5 spam and 536 good messages SpamBayes works best with roughly even amounts of trained ham and spam. You have over a ratio of over 100::1, which is almost certain to cause problems. Retraining from scratch is probably the best option. There's lots of information about training at if you're interested. > I tried to remove Spam Bayes using the Windows "Add/Remove", > but it didn't remove it!!! You probably mean that the toolbar wasn't removed. This is a known bug; see FAQ 3.16: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 04:35:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:35:47 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] My good messages are directed to the junk mail box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> Retraining from scratch is probably the best option. > > So how do you that? I have about a 400:1 Ham to Spam ratio at > this momment. You can either delete the existing databases (default_bayes_database.db, default_message_database.db) manually (they are in the 'data directory'; SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Show Data Directory will open it), or use the "Training" tab (or the wizard, probably). If you use the "Training" tab, just be sure to tick the "Rebuild entire database" box. The training method that we recommend is to start with little or no training, and train only on misclassified and unsure messages using the "Delete as Spam" and "Recover from Spam" buttons. This generally gives the best results. One other thing that can help avoid imbalance is adjusting the ham/spam thresholds ("Filtering" tab) once you have the classifier reasonably trained. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 05:07:44 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:07:44 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] DB error... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am not sure what I did to spambayes, but it sure isn't > liking me too much. Everything was running great today after > I started using the pickle, and then this evening it crapped > out with the following. [...] > EOFError This means that the (pickle) database is corrupt. Most likely the same problems that cause problems with bsddb databases in 1.1a1. Unless you really want/need features that are new in 1.1, I highly recommend using 1.0.4, at least until there is a 1.1a2 release. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 05:10:24 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:10:24 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Fw: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I attempted to forward a Spam message to localhost to train > SpamBayes and it failed [...] > > It looks like you're using Outlook Express - we really don't recommend training with the SMTP proxy for Outlook Express users (OE is too limited in what it can do). This specific error looks like the SMTP proxy isn't setup (or OE isn't set to *send* mail via localhost). However, training via the web interface would definitely be a better idea. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 05:12:24 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:12:24 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Installing SpamBayes for Outlook Express 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > All well and good. I did as in FAQ 4.21 and a test message > got through. > > However, I now cannot open localhost:8880 from the icon on > the tray. I try clicking on Review Messages View Information Configire > > All return > The page cannot be displayed > The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. > The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you > may need to adjust your browser settings. > > However, a message did get through which I want to classify > as Spam, but I can't What if you try , does that work? Could you find your SpamBayes log files (in your temp directory, \Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\temp in WinXP, called SpambayesServerX.log, where X is 1-4) and send us a copy of them? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 05:16:02 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:16:02 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Installing SpamBayes for Outlook Express 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Me] > What if you try , does that work? I meant , of course. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From mdmkolbe at gmail.com Fri Jul 8 05:25:45 2005 From: mdmkolbe at gmail.com (Michael D. Adams) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:25:45 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] To label or not to label, a practical question Message-ID: My ISP provides a spam filtering service (server side) that labels the things that they think are spam by putting an extra string in the subject like (e.g. "--Spam--" at the front). Their filters don't catch everything so I want to also use SpamBayes to eliminate the spam that my ISP doesn't label. My question is whether or not I should train SpamBayes with the spams that get labeled by my ISP. I could easily see SpamBayes picking up on the "--Spam--" string in the subject line and filtering just based on that. On the other hand maybe that would introduce some selection bias or a bad spam vs ham ratio for training (e.g. maybe I'll get 50 ham, 40 spam caught by my ISP, and 10 spam not caught by my ISP (I don't know what the ratio is yet, I only just started using my ISP's filter)). Does anyone have any advice on whether these might interfere or how to avoid that interference? Should I even be using my ISP's filter along with SpamBayes or just SpamBayes by itself? Michael D. Adams mdmkolbe at gmail.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 05:25:52 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:25:52 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> Could you rerun that with "-i4" as well ("sb_imapfilter.py >> -c -v -e y -i4"), [...] and send that to us? The extra debugging >> info will help figure out what the problem is. > > Here it is: [...] > 28:07.50 > EDGG46 SELECT "" > 28:07.51 < EDGG46 BAD too few arguments for SELECT [...] > imaplib.error: SELECT command error: BAD ['too few arguments > for SELECT'] Turns out that this is a bug. I can send you a patch, a new sb_imapftiler.py, or instructions about how to modify your copy to fix it, if you would like (it's a very simple change). Let me know which you'd prefer. (Or if you don't use the -e option, this won't happen, since the bug is in the expunging code). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 05:35:31 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:35:31 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] To label or not to label, a practical question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My ISP provides a spam filtering service (server side) that labels the > things that they think are spam by putting an extra string in the > subject like (e.g. "--Spam--" at the front). Their filters don't > catch everything so I want to also use SpamBayes to eliminate the spam > that my ISP doesn't label. My question is whether or not I should > train SpamBayes with the spams that get labeled by my ISP. I could > easily see SpamBayes picking up on the "--Spam--" string in the > subject line and filtering just based on that. It's possible (even likely, assuming that their filter is any good) that "subject:--Spam--" will become a strong spam clue, but hopefully there would be enough ham clues in the (ISP's) false positive that SpamBayes would still be able to make a correct (or perhaps unsure) classification. The only way to know for sure is to give it a go. You can see how strong the "subject:--Spam--" clue is by looking at the clues for a message with such a modified subject. The situation with my work email is similar - I can opt out of their spam filtering, but that means that they will prepend "[SPAM]" to the subject. I ignore their classification and SpamBayes still works fine. However, they have some really terrible false positives, which means that "subject:[SPAM]" isn't as strong a clue as it would be otherwise. > On the other hand maybe that would introduce some selection bias or a > bad spam vs ham ratio for training (e.g. maybe I'll get 50 ham, 40 spam > caught by my ISP, and 10 spam not caught by my ISP (I don't know what > the ratio is yet, I only just started using my ISP's filter)). It's all guesswork at the moment, but you might find that it helps with keeping a ~1::1 ratio. Ham tends to be reasonably homogenous, so you generally need to train on less of it than spam (assuming you're doing some sort of train-on-errors-and-unsures training), so this might help balance that out. > Does anyone have any advice on whether these might interfere or how to > avoid that interference? Should I even be using my ISP's filter along > with SpamBayes or just SpamBayes by itself? If the ISP's filter is reasonably good, then you might as well as it as well; plenty of people like these sort of tiered filter systems. I expect that you'll find that it doesn't interfere at all; the only way to know for sure is to try it out, though. (Maybe after training for a while, you could get someone to send you a ham message with "--Spam--" in the subject, and see if the hammy clues are enough to get it through). Let us know if you find out anything interesting! :) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 8 05:48:04 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:48:04 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] My good messages are directed to the junk mail box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Sound like Outlook, I do not use Outlook, I use the Proxy server and > Eudora for the mail client. Sorry. Then just delete the databases manually. The configuration page shows the path to the data directory. [...] > In another PC I turned on suppress caching of bulk ham after about > two weeks of training it has a 26:1 HAM to SPAM ratio. That's still much higher than we recommend. However, if it's working, then there's no point changing it. > I belong to several email list that are moderated, there is zero spam > coming from those list but there are 30 to 100 HAM emails coming > daily from those list. Using the option to not cache bulk mail (configuration page) would help with this; you wouldn't then see any of these (assuming that the mailing list uses the "Precedence" header) in the review pages. > I suppose I could for a while change the settings so HAM mail has the > discard option as the default that would stop building up HAM email > until I stop it. Ideally (see ) you should set both ham and spam to discard, and just train any false positives (ham identified as spam), false negatives (spam identified as ham) and unsures. > I assume by adjusting the threshold you mean lower it for HAM > and SPAM? Yes. For example, the default thresholds for the proxy are 0.2 and 0.9 - you will probably find after training for a while that you can change these to something like 0.1 and 0.8. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From HerbM at learnquick.com Fri Jul 8 05:53:13 2005 From: HerbM at learnquick.com (Herb Martin) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:53:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] To label or not to label, a practical question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050708035300.BF0AF1E4002@bag.python.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Adams > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:26 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] To label or not to label, a practical question > > My ISP provides a spam filtering service (server side) that > labels the things that they think are spam by putting an > extra string in the subject like (e.g. "--Spam--" at the > front). Their filters don't catch everything so I want to > also use SpamBayes to eliminate the spam that my ISP doesn't > label. My question is whether or not I should train > SpamBayes with the spams that get labeled by my ISP. I could > easily see SpamBayes picking up on the "--Spam--" string in > the subject line and filtering just based on that. Tony (who is much more knowledgeable than I on this product) has already answered so merely consider the following: If you rigorously train false positives (from your ISP) then these will show that SOME Ham does have this tag and thus it will NOT be sure Spam sign. If the ISP is "always right" then it will be (relatively) reliable spam sign and that is probably what you want. Just keep training on all mistakes -- that is probably the single most important trick to using Bayesian spam classifiers. You must NOT get lazy and just delete or ignore mistakes. > On the > other hand maybe that would introduce some selection bias or > a bad spam vs ham ratio for training (e.g. maybe I'll get 50 > ham, 40 spam caught by my ISP, and 10 spam not caught by my > ISP (I don't know what the ratio is yet, I only just started > using my ISP's filter)). > > Does anyone have any advice on whether these might interfere > or how to avoid that interference? Should I even be using my > ISP's filter along with SpamBayes or just SpamBayes by itself? My bet is they will not. My SpamAssassin ****SPAM***** gets by SpamBayes WHEN it is obviously not spam (I only let through the mistakes made by SpamAssassin so most of those tagged which reach Outlook are NOT spam) and it still grabs it if it is Spam (most of the time.) One thing about Spam filters in my experience, as often as they make mistakes, they catch things correctly that *I*, a human, would actually misclassify on first naive glance. (E.g., a mailing from a list that is NOT spam, but where someone has injected spam into the list -- a message from a technical "spammer" that I actually wish to see.) From tandcl at homemail.com.au Fri Jul 8 06:14:38 2005 From: tandcl at homemail.com.au (Trevor Lawrence) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:14:38 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Installing SpamBayes for Outlook Express 6 References: Message-ID: <00b201c58373$8e825130$0401a8c0@trevorymo1ec4a> Thanks, Tony This has now resolved itself. I restarted the PC and next time it worked In fact, after these few startup glitches - mea culpa - I like SpamBayes very much. It is the best anti-Spam software I have found to date. Tony Meyer wrote: >> All well and good. I did as in FAQ 4.21 and a test message >> got through. >> >> However, I now cannot open localhost:8880 from the icon on >> the tray. I try clicking on Review Messages View Information >> Configire >> >> All return >> The page cannot be displayed >> The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. >> The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you >> may need to adjust your browser settings. >> >> However, a message did get through which I want to classify >> as Spam, but I can't > > What if you try , does that work? > > Could you find your SpamBayes log files (in your temp directory, > \Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\temp in WinXP, > called SpambayesServerX.log, where X is 1-4) and send us a copy of > them? > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your > replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about > SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html > explains this. > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: > 06/07/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 06/07/05 From rafael.scholl at bbox.ch Fri Jul 8 09:38:08 2005 From: rafael.scholl at bbox.ch (Rafael Scholl) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:38:08 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050708093525.01f05298@mail.bbox.ch> At 05:25 08.07.2005, Tony Meyer wrote: >Turns out that this is a bug. I can send you a patch, a new >sb_imapftiler.py, or instructions about how to modify your copy to fix it, >if you would like (it's a very simple change). Let me know which you'd >prefer. Thank you for the troubleshooting. I would prefer to fix the code myself. Rafael * Passed viruscheck by Kaspersky Lab Business Enterprise Scanner * From rwsgolf at comcast.net Fri Jul 8 14:17:16 2005 From: rwsgolf at comcast.net (RWS Comcast) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:17:16 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <00d301c583b6$fb304ba0$6500a8c0@rwsstudy> I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 268 ham and 184 spam. The problem I am having is the Review Messages to train in the web page no longer shows any messages for today or any prior day. It worked a week or so ago. In addition the right click on the tray icon for Spambayes to Review Messages or any other function except for "check for latest version" does not open the web page. I have to manually put "http://localhost:8880/bugreport" into the Address box in IE ver 6+. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050708/9a9872b0/attachment.htm From odegani at pacbell.net Fri Jul 8 08:07:14 2005 From: odegani at pacbell.net (Oded) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:07:14 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Digest, Vol 83, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050708060722.541B51E4002@bag.python.org> Thanks for your answers! here are my responses: 1. I checked and Outlook has NOT disable spambayes. 2. I didn't know a ratio of approximately 1:1 is required. I can't understand how the ratio got corrupted in the first place... May be because of my several attempts at retraining w/o first deleting the data base. I'll try that approach now 3. No. I didn't mean that the toolbar wasn't removed. I meant the "add/remove" function of "Windows" didn't remove the Spambayes program. I checked and it is still present in the Windows Explorer "Program Files" as well as in: Start/All Programs! 4. I noticed that the "Delete as Spam" button disappeared from my list. This is another reason to remove the Spambayes altogether and reinstall it, isn't it? However, I need to know how to properly remove Spambayes. Thanks, Oded ______________________ _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of spambayes-request at python.org Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:48 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Spambayes Digest, Vol 83, Issue 11 Send Spambayes mailing list submissions to spambayes at python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to spambayes-request at python.org You can reach the person managing the list at spambayes-owner at python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Spambayes digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: quit working (Tony Meyer) 2. My good messages are directed to the junk mail box (Oded) 3. Re: My good messages are directed to the junk mail box (Tony Meyer) 4. Re: My good messages are directed to the junk mail box (Tony Meyer) 5. Re: DB error... (Tony Meyer) 6. Re: Fw: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Tony Meyer) 7. Re: Installing SpamBayes for Outlook Express 6 (Tony Meyer) 8. Re: Installing SpamBayes for Outlook Express 6 (Tony Meyer) 9. To label or not to label, a practical question (Michael D. Adams) 10. Re: sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y (Tony Meyer) 11. Re: To label or not to label, a practical question (Tony Meyer) 12. Re: My good messages are directed to the junk mail box (Tony Meyer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:42:27 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] quit working To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > WE were using spambayes all the time, then it just quit working. See if Outlook has disabled the plug-in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:55:22 -0700 From: "Oded" Subject: [Spambayes] My good messages are directed to the junk mail box To: Message-ID: <20050707235527.8CEA61E4004 at bag.python.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" All of a sudden, after a year of good experience with spambayes, all of my good messages are directed to the junk mail box while many junk mail ends up in my "In" box. I was instructed to look at log file (attached), but there is so much data there I am not sure what to look for? Attempts to retrain the system didn't help I tried to remove Spam Bayes using the Windows "Add/Remove", but it didn't remove it!!! Why? Re-Installation didn't help. How can I proceed? Thanks, Oded Oded ______________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050707/ca91b903/att achment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 13035 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050707/ca91b903/spa mbayes1-0001.obj ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:00:23 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] My good messages are directed to the junk mail box To: "'Oded'" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > All of a sudden, after a year of good experience with > spambayes, all of my good messages are directed to the > junk mail box while many junk mail ends up in my "In" box. The most important part of the log is probably this: > Bayes database initialized with 5 spam and 536 good messages SpamBayes works best with roughly even amounts of trained ham and spam. You have over a ratio of over 100::1, which is almost certain to cause problems. Retraining from scratch is probably the best option. There's lots of information about training at if you're interested. > I tried to remove Spam Bayes using the Windows "Add/Remove", > but it didn't remove it!!! You probably mean that the toolbar wasn't removed. This is a known bug; see FAQ 3.16: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:35:47 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] My good messages are directed to the junk mail box To: "'KD5NWA'" Cc: spambayes at python.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Retraining from scratch is probably the best option. > > So how do you that? I have about a 400:1 Ham to Spam ratio at > this momment. You can either delete the existing databases (default_bayes_database.db, default_message_database.db) manually (they are in the 'data directory'; SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Show Data Directory will open it), or use the "Training" tab (or the wizard, probably). If you use the "Training" tab, just be sure to tick the "Rebuild entire database" box. The training method that we recommend is to start with little or no training, and train only on misclassified and unsure messages using the "Delete as Spam" and "Recover from Spam" buttons. This generally gives the best results. One other thing that can help avoid imbalance is adjusting the ham/spam thresholds ("Filtering" tab) once you have the classifier reasonably trained. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:07:44 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] DB error... To: Cc: spambayes at python.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > I am not sure what I did to spambayes, but it sure isn't > liking me too much. Everything was running great today after > I started using the pickle, and then this evening it crapped > out with the following. [...] > EOFError This means that the (pickle) database is corrupt. Most likely the same problems that cause problems with bsddb databases in 1.1a1. Unless you really want/need features that are new in 1.1, I highly recommend using 1.0.4, at least until there is a 1.1a2 release. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:10:24 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Fw: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: "'Trevor Lawrence'" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > I attempted to forward a Spam message to localhost to train > SpamBayes and it failed [...] > > It looks like you're using Outlook Express - we really don't recommend training with the SMTP proxy for Outlook Express users (OE is too limited in what it can do). This specific error looks like the SMTP proxy isn't setup (or OE isn't set to *send* mail via localhost). However, training via the web interface would definitely be a better idea. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:12:24 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Installing SpamBayes for Outlook Express 6 To: "'Trevor Lawrence'" Cc: spambayes at python.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > All well and good. I did as in FAQ 4.21 and a test message > got through. > > However, I now cannot open localhost:8880 from the icon on > the tray. I try clicking on Review Messages View Information Configire > > All return > The page cannot be displayed > The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. > The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you > may need to adjust your browser settings. > > However, a message did get through which I want to classify > as Spam, but I can't What if you try , does that work? Could you find your SpamBayes log files (in your temp directory, \Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\temp in WinXP, called SpambayesServerX.log, where X is 1-4) and send us a copy of them? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:16:02 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Installing SpamBayes for Outlook Express 6 To: "'Trevor Lawrence'" Cc: spambayes at python.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" [Me] > What if you try , does that work? I meant , of course. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:25:45 -0500 From: "Michael D. Adams" Subject: [Spambayes] To label or not to label, a practical question To: spambayes at python.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My ISP provides a spam filtering service (server side) that labels the things that they think are spam by putting an extra string in the subject like (e.g. "--Spam--" at the front). Their filters don't catch everything so I want to also use SpamBayes to eliminate the spam that my ISP doesn't label. My question is whether or not I should train SpamBayes with the spams that get labeled by my ISP. I could easily see SpamBayes picking up on the "--Spam--" string in the subject line and filtering just based on that. On the other hand maybe that would introduce some selection bias or a bad spam vs ham ratio for training (e.g. maybe I'll get 50 ham, 40 spam caught by my ISP, and 10 spam not caught by my ISP (I don't know what the ratio is yet, I only just started using my ISP's filter)). Does anyone have any advice on whether these might interfere or how to avoid that interference? Should I even be using my ISP's filter along with SpamBayes or just SpamBayes by itself? Michael D. Adams mdmkolbe at gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:25:52 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y To: "'Rafael Scholl'" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Could you rerun that with "-i4" as well ("sb_imapfilter.py >> -c -v -e y -i4"), [...] and send that to us? The extra debugging >> info will help figure out what the problem is. > > Here it is: [...] > 28:07.50 > EDGG46 SELECT "" > 28:07.51 < EDGG46 BAD too few arguments for SELECT [...] > imaplib.error: SELECT command error: BAD ['too few arguments > for SELECT'] Turns out that this is a bug. I can send you a patch, a new sb_imapftiler.py, or instructions about how to modify your copy to fix it, if you would like (it's a very simple change). Let me know which you'd prefer. (Or if you don't use the -e option, this won't happen, since the bug is in the expunging code). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:35:31 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] To label or not to label, a practical question To: "'Michael D. Adams'" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > My ISP provides a spam filtering service (server side) that labels the > things that they think are spam by putting an extra string in the > subject like (e.g. "--Spam--" at the front). Their filters don't > catch everything so I want to also use SpamBayes to eliminate the spam > that my ISP doesn't label. My question is whether or not I should > train SpamBayes with the spams that get labeled by my ISP. I could > easily see SpamBayes picking up on the "--Spam--" string in the > subject line and filtering just based on that. It's possible (even likely, assuming that their filter is any good) that "subject:--Spam--" will become a strong spam clue, but hopefully there would be enough ham clues in the (ISP's) false positive that SpamBayes would still be able to make a correct (or perhaps unsure) classification. The only way to know for sure is to give it a go. You can see how strong the "subject:--Spam--" clue is by looking at the clues for a message with such a modified subject. The situation with my work email is similar - I can opt out of their spam filtering, but that means that they will prepend "[SPAM]" to the subject. I ignore their classification and SpamBayes still works fine. However, they have some really terrible false positives, which means that "subject:[SPAM]" isn't as strong a clue as it would be otherwise. > On the other hand maybe that would introduce some selection bias or a > bad spam vs ham ratio for training (e.g. maybe I'll get 50 ham, 40 spam > caught by my ISP, and 10 spam not caught by my ISP (I don't know what > the ratio is yet, I only just started using my ISP's filter)). It's all guesswork at the moment, but you might find that it helps with keeping a ~1::1 ratio. Ham tends to be reasonably homogenous, so you generally need to train on less of it than spam (assuming you're doing some sort of train-on-errors-and-unsures training), so this might help balance that out. > Does anyone have any advice on whether these might interfere or how to > avoid that interference? Should I even be using my ISP's filter along > with SpamBayes or just SpamBayes by itself? If the ISP's filter is reasonably good, then you might as well as it as well; plenty of people like these sort of tiered filter systems. I expect that you'll find that it doesn't interfere at all; the only way to know for sure is to try it out, though. (Maybe after training for a while, you could get someone to send you a ham message with "--Spam--" in the subject, and see if the hammy clues are enough to get it through). Let us know if you find out anything interesting! :) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:48:04 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: Re: [Spambayes] My good messages are directed to the junk mail box To: "'KD5NWA'" Cc: spambayes at python.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Sound like Outlook, I do not use Outlook, I use the Proxy server and > Eudora for the mail client. Sorry. Then just delete the databases manually. The configuration page shows the path to the data directory. [...] > In another PC I turned on suppress caching of bulk ham after about > two weeks of training it has a 26:1 HAM to SPAM ratio. That's still much higher than we recommend. However, if it's working, then there's no point changing it. > I belong to several email list that are moderated, there is zero spam > coming from those list but there are 30 to 100 HAM emails coming > daily from those list. Using the option to not cache bulk mail (configuration page) would help with this; you wouldn't then see any of these (assuming that the mailing list uses the "Precedence" header) in the review pages. > I suppose I could for a while change the settings so HAM mail has the > discard option as the default that would stop building up HAM email > until I stop it. Ideally (see ) you should set both ham and spam to discard, and just train any false positives (ham identified as spam), false negatives (spam identified as ham) and unsures. > I assume by adjusting the threshold you mean lower it for HAM > and SPAM? Yes. For example, the default thresholds for the proxy are 0.2 and 0.9 - you will probably find after training for a while that you can change these to something like 0.1 and 0.8. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Spambayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html End of Spambayes Digest, Vol 83, Issue 11 ***************************************** _____ avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0527-1, 07/07/2005 Tested on: 7/7/2005 8:52:20 PM avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050707/57a7e6c6/attachment-0001.htm From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Sat Jul 9 03:52:56 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:52:56 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] My good messages are directed to the junk mail box Message-ID: > Precedence header? I don't see anything like that, see > header below [...] > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: Tom Rauch There it is! It is hard to spot a specific header in amongst them all, but using some sort of find command will work. [Train-on-errors] > Seems like a lot of manual training. If you set both ham and spam to default to 'discard' (the advanced configuration page, from memory), and this will probably be the default in 1.1, then all you have to do is correct any false positives and false negatives (which should of course be minimal) and classify any unsures. I probably train an average of one false negative and 6 or 7 unsures a day (out of about 500 emails), which isn't that much work. =Tony.Meyer From shumtim.luk at polyu.edu.hk Sat Jul 9 08:38:50 2005 From: shumtim.luk at polyu.edu.hk (LUK ShunTim) Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:38:50 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Exception in classifier.py Message-ID: <42CF70FA.3090006@polyu.edu.hk> Hello, Having dot spambayes working great for about a week, it suddenly stop classifying email and I got this exception in my email header X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "/home/devel/py23/bin/sb_server.py", line 502, in onRetr . evidence=True) . File "/home/devel/py23/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 190, in chi2_spamprob . clues = self._getclues(wordstream) . File "/home/devel/py23/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 493, in _getclues . tup = self._worddistanceget(word) . File "/home/devel/py23/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 508, in _worddistanceget . prob = self.probability(record) . File "/home/devel/py23/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 308, in probability . assert hamcount <= nham .AssertionError X-Spambayes-Trained: ham Spambayes versions: 1.0.4 OS: Debian GNU/Linux sid Python: 2.3.5 Regards, ST -- From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Sat Jul 9 13:23:14 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:23:14 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Exception in classifier.py Message-ID: > Having dot spambayes working great for about a > week, it suddenly stop classifying email and I > got this exception in my email header > > > X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): [...] > line 308, in probability . assert hamcount <= nham > .AssertionError This means that the database is corrupt (there's a token that has been seen in more ham than the total number of ham you have trained, which is impossible). The best thing to do is retrain from scratch. It's pretty rare for this to occur these days. How have you been training SpamBayes? =Tony.Meyer From shumtim.luk at polyu.edu.hk Sat Jul 9 15:44:21 2005 From: shumtim.luk at polyu.edu.hk (LUK ShunTim) Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:44:21 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Exception in classifier.py In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42CFD4B5.5080105@polyu.edu.hk> Meyer, Tony wrote: >>Having dot spambayes working great for about a >>week, it suddenly stop classifying email and I >>got this exception in my email header >> >> >>X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): > > [...] > >> line 308, in probability . assert hamcount <= nham >> .AssertionError > > > This means that the database is corrupt (there's a token that has been seen in more ham than the total number of ham you have trained, which is impossible). The best thing to do is retrain from scratch. > > It's pretty rare for this to occur these days. How have you been training SpamBayes? > > =Tony.Meyer Thanks very much, Tony. I now realize that. My spam and ham mails are moved to separate mboxes and trained using sb_mboxtrain.py. The mails are allowed to accumulated over time and I did the training at the end of the day's work. I recalled I got over a thousand of each and hammie.db grew to about 11 Mb. Perhaps I overtrained. -( Regards, ST -- From oxyme at wanadoo.nl Sun Jul 10 23:26:24 2005 From: oxyme at wanadoo.nl (Roger) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:26:24 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems after installing Apache httpd 2.0.52 on Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger Message-ID: Hi there! Recently I've installed the Spambayes installer package for OSX. I got it all working with multiple accounts etc. Next to that I had a problem with Apache, the webserver. I had problems with it since a while, weeks before I installed Spambayes. It didn't start. Today I tried again and found out what the problem was. I fixed it, got Apache working, and now Spambayes doesn't work anymore. The webbased GUI is not available anymore, and I can't get any mail via Spambayes. So I wonder what has happened here. Is this something with Apache or with Spambayes? Or maybe Python? I tried to reinstall Spambayes, but it won't do anything. Do you have any ideas? Roger From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Mon Jul 11 08:30:01 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:30:01 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Exception in classifier.py Message-ID: > My spam and ham mails are moved to separate mboxes and > trained using sb_mboxtrain.py. The mails are allowed to > accumulated over time and I did the training at the end of > the day's work. I recalled I got over a thousand of each and > hammie.db grew to about 11 Mb. Perhaps I overtrained. -( This shouldn't be caused by training on a lot of mail. Maybe mboxtrain crashed during training? I guess if it doesn't happen again, it doesn't really matter. 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You can't update > your playlist anymore when Spambayes is installed. I assure you that this is not true. I use SpamBayes on four different computers (WinXP home, WinXP pro, 2x Win2K) with iTunes (every version from the original Windows version to 4.9) without any trouble at all. If you remove SpamBayes, does this problem really stop? If you install again, without doing anything else, does the problem start again? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From shuntim.luk at polyu.edu.hk Tue Jul 12 09:21:47 2005 From: shuntim.luk at polyu.edu.hk (LUK ShunTim) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:21:47 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Exception in classifier.py In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42D36F8B.7000608@polyu.edu.hk> Meyer, Tony wrote: [snipped] > > This shouldn't be caused by training on a lot of mail. Maybe mboxtrain > crashed during training? I guess if it doesn't happen again, it doesn't > really matter. Will a mismatch between hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db cause the data corruption? > > BTW, you might find that using the contrib/tte.py script for training > gives you better results, and you should be able to use it in basically > the same way as this. Thanks. I'll try that. BTW, I found that (accidentally) training the same message twice will increase the number of trained mail message count by 2 so this number in fact may not reflect accurately the amount of real training. 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Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Julie Stone | Account Manager New York magazine newyorkmetro.com 444 Madison Avenue | New York, NY 10022 Tel: 212-508-0683| Fax: 212-508-0638 CHEAP EATS DOUBLE ISSUE - AD CLOSE 7/18 SINGLES ISSUE - AD CLOSE 8/1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050712/f53c67f4/attachment.htm From Julie_Stone at newyorkmag.com Tue Jul 12 20:12:46 2005 From: Julie_Stone at newyorkmag.com (Stone, Julie) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:12:46 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: accidentally deleted junk suspects folder Message-ID: <763983B636AE1B4E9B035E3072BA7207011DB8E6@NY444EXCH.nymag.biz> Hi again, I forgot to include this info. I'm using Windows XP, SpamBayes Outlook Addin Version 1.1a1 (April 2005), and I don't know about logfiles. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050712/d8d2feaf/attachment.htm From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Wed Jul 13 03:18:53 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:18:53 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] feedback: Problems with national characters in path Message-ID: > I have had problems with path for data files. > I am resident from Czech republic and have czech > version of Windows XP. > There are Czech names for system folders. > SpamBayes could not read data files from the > default data directory What version of SpamBayes is this? There were problems of this sort some time ago, but the latest version (1.0.4) is meant to be able to handle this fine (as long as the filename can be encoded in the file system encoding, I believe, which should be the case here). =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Wed Jul 13 07:17:30 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:17:30 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Exception in classifier.py Message-ID: > Will a mismatch between hammie.db and > spambayes.messageinfo.db cause the data corruption? No. The only thing that sb_server currently uses the messageinfo database for is the "more statistics" display (and for knowing when to 'untrain' messages when using the review page to correct training, which isn't applicable here since you're using sb_mboxtrain). > BTW, I found that (accidentally) training the same message > twice will increase the number of trained mail message count > by 2 so this number in fact may not reflect accurately the > amount of real training. This is still with sb_mboxtrain, I presume? I don't use mboxtrain myself, but I thought that it added a header to messages to ensure that it doesn't train messages twice (unless this is overridden). Did that not happen? By the "number of trained mail message count", do you mean the total counts in the hammie.db database? The one that, when it is wrong, causes the exception? It's the "total emails trained" count on the main page of the web interface. If so, then this should happen - if you train the message twice, then all the tokens for the message will be incremented twice and the total count should be incremented twice. Perhaps I'm missing what you meant? > Finally, I just found these error messages appearing > > error: uncaptured python exception, closing channel > > (socket.error:(32, 'Broken pipe') > [/usr/lib/python2.3/asynchat.py|initiate_send|218] > [/usr/lib/python2.3/asyncore.py|send|337]) > > Quite a lot of them. Not harmful, I suppose? I don't recall seeing this before, offhand. At first glance, it looks like problems with the connection to/from the local web interface breaking. If everything still works, then it should be ok. If you're concerned, open a bug report and someone will look at it when they can (could be a while at the moment). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jul 13 07:37:26 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:37:26 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Digest, Vol 83, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I didn't know a ratio of approximately 1:1 is required. It's not *required*, it's *recommended*. Because of the underlying math, you'll start to get very odd-seeming results if there's a significant imbalance. > No. I didn't mean that the toolbar wasn't removed. I meant > the "add/remove" function of "Windows" didn't remove the > Spambayes program. I checked and it is still present in the > Windows Explorer "Program Files" as well as in: Start/All > Programs! Does any error occur when doing the uninstall? Is SpamBayes still listed in the Add/Remove programs list? Have you installed versions after 1.0a9 over the top of earlier versions? The Add/Remove Programs control panel should (and does for anyone else that I am aware of) do a complete uninstall apart from the toolbar. If it's not in the Add/Remove Programs control panel, then you could try installing it again and then uninstalling. If you want to do it all manually, then you can run the outlook_addin_register.exe program in the "bin" directory in the directory you installed SpamBayes into with "--unregister" as a parameter, then manually delete all the files in that directory, and the Start Menu shortcuts. > I noticed that the "Delete as Spam" button disappeared from my > list. This is another reason to remove the Spambayes altogether > and reinstall it, isn't it? Possibly. The troubleshooting guide has a lot of possible solutions for toolbar problems (which are generally pretty rare). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From shuntim.luk at polyu.edu.hk Wed Jul 13 07:56:45 2005 From: shuntim.luk at polyu.edu.hk (LUK ShunTim) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:56:45 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Exception in classifier.py In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42D4AD1D.2080903@polyu.edu.hk> Meyer, Tony wrote: [snipped] > > >>BTW, I found that (accidentally) training the same message >>twice will increase the number of trained mail message count >>by 2 so this number in fact may not reflect accurately the >>amount of real training. > > > This is still with sb_mboxtrain, I presume? I don't use mboxtrain No, this time I did it using the web interface. > myself, but I thought that it added a header to messages to ensure that > it doesn't train messages twice (unless this is overridden). Did that > not happen? > > By the "number of trained mail message count", do you mean the total > counts in the hammie.db database? The one that, when it is wrong, > causes the exception? It's the "total emails trained" count on the main Yes, that's what I meant. > page of the web interface. If so, then this should happen - if you > train the message twice, then all the tokens for the message will be > incremented twice and the total count should be incremented twice. > Perhaps I'm missing what you meant? If so then how can one tell how many *distinct* massage are actually trained? It may be a little confusing if people try to use this information to follow the recommendation of "number of ham and spam of equal order". > > >>Finally, I just found these error messages appearing >> >>error: uncaptured python exception, closing channel >> >>(socket.error:(32, 'Broken pipe') >>[/usr/lib/python2.3/asynchat.py|initiate_send|218] >>[/usr/lib/python2.3/asyncore.py|send|337]) >> >>Quite a lot of them. Not harmful, I suppose? > > > I don't recall seeing this before, offhand. At first glance, it looks > like problems with the connection to/from the local web interface > breaking. If everything still works, then it should be ok. If you're Yes, at least up to now; nothing breaks. > concerned, open a bug report and > someone will look at it when they can (could be a while at the moment). > > =Tony.Meyer > Thanks very much, ST -- From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Wed Jul 13 08:02:01 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:02:01 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Exception in classifier.py Message-ID: >> If so, then this should happen - if you train the message twice, >> then all the tokens for the message will be incremented twice and >> the total count should be incremented twice. > > If so then how can one tell how many *distinct* massage are > actually trained? It may be a little confusing if people try > to use this information to follow the recommendation of > "number of ham and spam of equal order". SpamBayes doesn't care whether the ham or spam you train on are distinct or not. It's the total number of messages, not distinct messages, that counts. If you train on 500 copies of the same 2 ham and spam messages, then the math will work fine (but of course, it'll only be any good at recognising those two messages). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From shuntim.luk at polyu.edu.hk Wed Jul 13 08:41:33 2005 From: shuntim.luk at polyu.edu.hk (LUK ShunTim) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:41:33 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Exception in classifier.py In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42D4B79D.4000204@polyu.edu.hk> Meyer, Tony wrote: >>>If so, then this should happen - if you train the message twice, >>>then all the tokens for the message will be incremented twice and >>>the total count should be incremented twice. >> >>If so then how can one tell how many *distinct* massage are >>actually trained? It may be a little confusing if people try >>to use this information to follow the recommendation of >>"number of ham and spam of equal order". > > > SpamBayes doesn't care whether the ham or spam you train on are distinct > or not. It's the total number of messages, not distinct messages, that > counts. If you train on 500 copies of the same 2 ham and spam messages, > then the math will work fine (but of course, it'll only be any good at > recognising those two messages). > > =Tony.Meyer > Now I begin to understand. You example would translate to the highly unlikely situation where the user receives only one mail of each all the time. To go further by paraphrasing your example, accidentally training 500 copies of 1 spam and 500 hundred (roughly distinct) ordinary ham mails will result in highly unbalanced "knowledge" of the mails that one receives. (Of course, in real situations, you do get repeated mails.) But then in this respect, knowing that you don't get into this kind of extreme situation when you train is nevertheless useful. On the other hand, you can tweak/weight the filter by training either ham or spam a couple of times more. Thanks very much again. I still have much to learn. Regards, ST -- From mikecpetrillo.webc at verizon.net Wed Jul 13 15:55:22 2005 From: mikecpetrillo.webc at verizon.net (Mike C. Petrillo) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:55:22 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] problem with toolbar buttons Message-ID: Hello. I am using SpamBayes on my Outlook 2002. The toolbar buttons do not seem to work most of the time. It seems SpamBayes is filtering spam from ham but I need to drag the email to the "Junk Suspects" or "Junk Email" shortcut folder on my outlook bar instead of just clicking the "delete as Spam" or "recover from Spam" like I did in the past. I reviewed the troubleshooting documentation followed all the steps to check if Outlook is recognizing SpamBayes and it does. I also deleted the toolbar and re-opened Outlook and the SpamBayes toolbar came back but it did not fix it. I attempted to completely reset the Outlook toolbar but I stopped because I could not find the file Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outcmd.dat under my documents and settings. I also removed SpamBayes entirely from the computer and downloaded a fresh one and re-installed it. That did not seem to work either. Any suggestions? Michael C. Petrillo Administrative Assistant West Essex Baptist Church 222 Laurel Ave., Livingston, NJ, 07039 973.992.2828 x-10 mikecpetrillo.webc at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050713/6a401d21/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I find I can live with it knowing what the behavior is.) ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mike C. Petrillo Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] problem with toolbar buttons Importance: High Hello. I am using SpamBayes on my Outlook 2002. The toolbar buttons do not seem to work most of the time. It seems SpamBayes is filtering spam from ham but I need to drag the email to the "Junk Suspects" or "Junk Email" shortcut folder on my outlook bar instead of just clicking the "delete as Spam" or "recover from Spam" like I did in the past. I reviewed the troubleshooting documentation followed all the steps to check if Outlook is recognizing SpamBayes and it does. I also deleted the toolbar and re-opened Outlook and the SpamBayes toolbar came back but it did not fix it. I attempted to completely reset the Outlook toolbar but I stopped because I could not find the file Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outcmd.dat under my documents and settings. I also removed SpamBayes entirely from the computer and downloaded a fresh one and re-installed it. That did not seem to work either. Any suggestions? Michael C. Petrillo Administrative Assistant West Essex Baptist Church 222 Laurel Ave., Livingston, NJ, 07039 973.992.2828 x-10 mikecpetrillo.webc at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050713/75f98b8b/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 2371 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050713/75f98b8b/attachment.jpeg From jsp at PKC.com Wed Jul 13 17:06:34 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:06:34 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] problem with toolbar buttons Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9F15580@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Well, it was worth a try. I have this particular issue on the brain. I don't have any other ideas, though; maybe someone else on the list will. You can check whether drag-and-drop incremental training is enabled by clicking SpamBayes>SpamNayes Manager... and selecting the Training tab on the dialog that comes up. See also http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-train-spambayes-outlo ok-plugin. ________________________________ From: Mike C. Petrillo [mailto:mikecpetrillo.webc at verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:59 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] problem with toolbar buttons Importance: High Thank you for getting back to me so quickly!!! I did what you said and when I click the "Delete as Spam" button on the toolbar, I go to a different folder and then go back to my inbox but the email is still there. Any thoughts? Ps...as it is right now, I resort to manually dragging the email to the Junk Email shortcut folder and that seems to move it out of my inbox. Don't know if it is logging the email as junk email for future use. Michael C. Petrillo Administrative Assistant West Essex Baptist Church 222 Laurel Ave., Livingston, NJ, 07039 973.992.2828 x-10 mikecpetrillo.webc at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:21 AM To: mikecpetrillo.webc at verizon.net; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] problem with toolbar buttons Are you sure that the toolbar buttons are not working? Under some (indeterminate) circumstances, Outlook fails to redisplay the folder contents when the buttons are used. You can determine whether this is happening in your case by selecting a different folder after clicking one of the SpamBayes buttons. For instance, if you use "Delete As Spam," you'll find the message you just operated on in your spam folder if this is the issue. (Unfortunately, no one knows why this happens. I started seeing this behavior after I installed Service Pack 2 for Windows XP a couple of weeks ago. I find I can live with it knowing what the behavior is.) ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mike C. Petrillo Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] problem with toolbar buttons Importance: High Hello. I am using SpamBayes on my Outlook 2002. The toolbar buttons do not seem to work most of the time. It seems SpamBayes is filtering spam from ham but I need to drag the email to the "Junk Suspects" or "Junk Email" shortcut folder on my outlook bar instead of just clicking the "delete as Spam" or "recover from Spam" like I did in the past. I reviewed the troubleshooting documentation followed all the steps to check if Outlook is recognizing SpamBayes and it does. I also deleted the toolbar and re-opened Outlook and the SpamBayes toolbar came back but it did not fix it. I attempted to completely reset the Outlook toolbar but I stopped because I could not find the file Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outcmd.dat under my documents and settings. I also removed SpamBayes entirely from the computer and downloaded a fresh one and re-installed it. That did not seem to work either. Any suggestions? Michael C. Petrillo Administrative Assistant West Essex Baptist Church 222 Laurel Ave., Livingston, NJ, 07039 973.992.2828 x-10 mikecpetrillo.webc at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050713/a331cd7d/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nelson Dean, School of Health Sciences The University of Texas at Brownsville and Texas Southmost College Brownsville, Texas 78520 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050713/f2b4b7ea/attachment.htm From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Thu Jul 14 00:48:00 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:48:00 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] UTB - ENelson Message-ID: > I deleted the ?proposed junk Email? folder. Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Thu Jul 14 00:52:26 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:52:26 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] problem with toolbar buttons Message-ID: > I am using SpamBayes on my Outlook 2002. The > toolbar buttons do not seem to work most of the time. If you check your log (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager-> Advanced->Diagnostics->Show Log), I suspect you will find an error for each time you have clicked the "Delete as" or "Recover from" buttons that mentions a "DB_RUNRECOVERY" error. If this is so, then the problem is that your database has been corrupted. Unfortunately, the only solution is to retrain from scratch (thankfully, SpamBayes learns very fast). To retrain from scratch, either use the "Training" tab, and tick the "Rebuild entire database" box, or manually delete the default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db files in the data directory. =Tony.Meyer From update at paypal.com Thu Jul 14 18:51:14 2005 From: update at paypal.com (update@paypal.com) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:51:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Update and Verify Your PayPal account***************** Message-ID: <20050714165114.08F473E93FF@ns.liquid8records.loc> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050714/ebe3d92a/attachment.htm From tandcl at homemail.com.au Fri Jul 15 05:45:25 2005 From: tandcl at homemail.com.au (Trevor Lawrence) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:45:25 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Failure Message-ID: <000c01c588ef$a2a1ef50$0401a8c0@trevorymo1ec4a> SpamBayes was working perfectly and I thought - great, at last I have a good Spam filter No when I try to start Outlook Express I get this message: The connection to the server has failed Account: 'Trevor' Server: 'localhost' Protocol: POP3 Port: 110 Secure(SSL): No Error: 10061 Error Number: 0X00CCC0E I was not sure what settings should be in IE so I removed Use SSL 2.0 Use SSL 3.0 Use TLS 1.0 This may be why Secure(SSL) says No However, I then put these options back and tried OE again with the same result. What is wrong? Thanks, Trevor Lawrence -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Trevor ---- Original Message ---- From: Trevor Lawrence To: spambayes at python.org Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: SpamBayes Failure > SpamBayes was working perfectly and I thought - great, at last I have > a good Spam filter > > No when I try to start Outlook Express I get this message: > The connection to the server has failed > Account: 'Trevor' > Server: 'localhost' > Protocol: POP3 > Port: 110 > Secure(SSL): No > Error: 10061 > Error Number: 0X00CCC0E > > I was not sure what settings should be in IE so I removed > Use SSL 2.0 > Use SSL 3.0 > Use TLS 1.0 > This may be why Secure(SSL) says No > However, I then put these options back and tried OE again with the > same result. > > What is wrong? > Thanks, > Trevor Lawrence -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am normally logged in with the least priviledge account - the users group and runs Outlook fine. As you are aware, this account does not allow user to install program and definitely does not have any rights to write to C:\Program Files\SpamBayes... directory. Hence I installed SpamBayes with the Admin Account. It installed fine and when I ran Outlook in the Admin Account the first time, the SpamBayes Configuration tools popped up to guide me through. At the end, I saw the SpamBayes toolbar appearing. When I logged back in as my normal account, nothing appearing in Outlook. The Add-in does not appear in the Outlook | Tools | Options | Other | Advanced Options | COM Add-ins. No matter what I tried, I could not see the SpamBayes stuff in my Outlook when run under my normal account. Has SpamBayes been tested to run under non-Admin account? What is the suggested remedial action? Bob From ngraham at nicolandandrew.com Fri Jul 15 18:12:45 2005 From: ngraham at nicolandandrew.com (Neil Graham) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:12:45 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Stopping training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002101c58958$09e5a720$0400005a@orbital.com> Can anyone tell me how to set spambayes so that I do not have to train it for a period? -- Thanks Neil From dandill at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 18:45:31 2005 From: dandill at gmail.com (Dan Dill) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:45:31 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Fwd: Update and Verify Your PayPal account***************** In-Reply-To: <6debba470507150944450c5565@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050714165114.08F473E93FF@ns.liquid8records.loc> <6debba470507150944450c5565@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6debba470507150945682c7d29@mail.gmail.com> This is fucking rediculous, phishing attacks coming through the spambayes mailing list! Does anyone monitor this? If not then I think I'll be unsubscribing as I didn't sign up to this userlist to get MORE spam..... On 7/14/05, update at paypal.com < service at paypal.com> wrote: > [image: PayPal] > Security Center Advisory! > We recently noticed one or more attempts to log in to your PayPal account > from a foreign IP address and we have reasons to belive that your account > was hijacked by a third party without your authorization. If you recently > accessed your account while traveling, the unusual log in attempts may have > been initiated by you. > > If you are the rightful holder of the account you must *click the link > below* and then complete all steps from the following page as we try to > verify your identity. > > Click here to verify your account > > > > If you choose to ignore our request, you leave us no choise but to > temporaly suspend your account. > > Thank you for using PayPal! The PayPal Team > ------------------------------ > Please do not reply to this e-mail. 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For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the > "Help" link in the footer of any page. > > To receive email notifications in plain text instead of HTML, update your > preferences here. > PayPal Email ID PP697 Protect Your Account Info > Make sure you never provide your password to fraudulent persons. > > PayPal automatically encrypts your confidential information using the > Secure Sockets Layer protocol (SSL) with an encryption key length of > 128-bits (the highest level commercially available). > > PayPal will never ask you to enter your password in an email. > > For more information on protecting yourself from fraud, please review our > Security Tips at http://www.paypal.com/securitytips > Protect Your Password You should never give your PayPal password to > anyone, including PayPal employees. > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050715/33354524/attachment.htm From kd5nwa at cox.net Fri Jul 15 19:19:39 2005 From: kd5nwa at cox.net (KD5NWA) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:19:39 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Fwd: Update and Verify Your PayPal account***************** In-Reply-To: <6debba470507150945682c7d29@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050714165114.08F473E93FF@ns.liquid8records.loc> <6debba470507150944450c5565@mail.gmail.com> <6debba470507150945682c7d29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20050715121834.01cb9db0@localhost> If this is the language you like to use, then please do so quickly, your emails are far worse than the occasional spam.. It's been explained many times that since people on the list will send copies of Spam for analysis then they can't have Spam filters. Bye, have a good life. At 11:45 AM 7/15/2005, Dan Dill wrote: >This is fucking rediculous, phishing attacks coming through the >spambayes mailing list! > >Does anyone monitor this? If not then I think I'll be unsubscribing >as I didn't sign up to this userlist to get MORE spam..... > >On 7/14/05, update at paypal.com >< service at paypal.com> wrote: > >Security Center Advisory! > >We recently noticed one or more attempts to log in to your PayPal >account from a foreign IP address and we have reasons to belive that >your account was hijacked by a third party without your >authorization. If you recently accessed your account while >traveling, the unusual log in attempts may have been initiated by you. > >If you are the rightful holder of the account you must click the >link below and then complete all steps from the following page as we >try to verify your identity. > >Click here to verify your account > > > > >If you choose to ignore our request, you leave us no choise but to >temporaly suspend your account. > >Thank you for using PayPal! The PayPal Team > >---------- >Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address cannot >be answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and >choose the "Help" link in the footer of any page. > >To receive email notifications in plain text instead of HTML, update >your preferences here. > >PayPal Email ID PP697 >Protect Your Account Info > >Make sure you never provide your password to fraudulent persons. > >PayPal automatically encrypts your confidential information using >the Secure Sockets Layer protocol (SSL) with an encryption key >length of 128-bits (the highest level commercially available). > >PayPal will never ask you to enter your password in an email. > >For more information on protecting yourself from fraud, please >review our Security Tips at http://www.paypal.com/securitytips >Protect Your Password >You should never give your PayPal password to anyone, including >PayPal employees. > >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: >http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Cecil Bayona KD5NWA www.qrpradio.com 'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.' From album at posey.net Fri Jul 15 19:39:11 2005 From: album at posey.net (Jeff) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:39:11 +0300 Subject: [Spambayes] Software protection computer security. Message-ID: <7279039094.12021179014@196.204.139.11> Welcome to VIP Quality Software. http://ahv.nc9kqm5ykxnckon.lagbekc.net When you have nothing to say, say nothing. If virtue precede us every step will be safe. From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Jul 15 20:12:37 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:12:37 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Fwd: Update and Verify Your PayPal account***************** In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.0.20050715121834.01cb9db0@localhost> References: <20050714165114.08F473E93FF@ns.liquid8records.loc> <6debba470507150944450c5565@mail.gmail.com> <6debba470507150945682c7d29@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.3.4.0.20050715121834.01cb9db0@localhost> Message-ID: <1f7befae05071511121956a50a@mail.gmail.com> [] > If this is the language you like to use, then please do so quickly, > your emails are far worse than the occasional spam.. > > It's been explained many times that since people on the list will > send copies of Spam for analysis then they can't have Spam filters. The list could nevertheless be moderated (all messages held for moderator review). The current list admins (of which I'm one) don't have time for that, so it's not moderated. If enough volunteers popped up, that could change. I'm not optimistic about that, because moderation is a round-the-clock never-ending task that typically burns people out no matter how fervent their initial zeal. BTW, there is _some_ spam filtering on this list. If a message scores extraordinarily high for spaminess, it is held for moderator review. I reject about 15 such spams per day sent to this list. From FinancialTraining at cftcs.org Fri Jul 15 22:38:00 2005 From: FinancialTraining at cftcs.org (FinancialTraining) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:38:00 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Message-ID: One of the people in the office keeps getting a SpamBayes message saying the database is corrupt. I have re-configured it five times ... I have downloaded the newest version of SpamBayes (again) and reinstalled it. Still getting the same message. It seems the "Enable SpamBayes" item will not stay checked permanently. It can be turned on, Spam moved ... and the next time you go into it, it is disabled again. Help, please! Cathie Castillo FinancialTraining FinancialTraining at cftcs.org Center for Financial Training ? Central States 720 Olive, Suite 400 St. Louis, Missouri 63101 314.241.9280 Telephone 314.241.1558 FAX www.cftcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050715/4075eed1/attachment.htm From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Sat Jul 16 05:21:45 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:21:45 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 98 Message-ID: > Does Spambayes work with "Outlook 98" version of > Outlook?? Sorry, the Outlook plug-in requires Outlook 2000 or above. Outlook 98 is vastly different under the hood and would require essentially an entirely separate plug-in to be developed. If you are using Outlook with POP or IMAP mail (rather than with Exchange), then you can use the SpamBayes POP3 proxy (sb_server) or IMAP4 filter, however, just like users of other mail programs (like Outlook Express or Eudora). sb_server is included in the same installer as the Outlook plug-in. =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Sat Jul 16 05:26:22 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:26:22 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Fwd: Update and Verify Your PayPalaccount***************** Message-ID: > Does anyone monitor this? If not then I think > I'll be unsubscribing as I didn't sign up to this > userlist to get MORE spam..... Something that you can do, whether you are subscribed to the list, or not, is check the FAQ for answers to any questions that you have (I'm assuming that you subscribed to get answers, since I haven't seen any posts from you helping others). If you do check the FAQ, you'll see that the very question you asked (although phrased politely) is answered: There isn't much more in the answer than what Tim and others have said, but getting your answer from there in the first place would free up other people's time, to improve SpamBayes, or help others here. =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Sat Jul 16 05:28:38 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:28:38 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Fw: SpamBayes Failure Message-ID: > I had restarted my PC but my auto startup executed > OE *before* spambayes, so I guess it was unable to > connect > > Does that sound correct? OE will not be able to connect to SpamBayes if SpamBayes is not running, yes. If this is the problem, then it would be only the first time that OE checked for mail that would have an error, and then (after SpamBayes had started) things should work. The FAQ includes a diagram explaining how the SpamBayes POP3 proxy works, if you'd like more information about why SpamBayes needs to be running. =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Sat Jul 16 05:31:15 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:31:15 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAMBayes Windows Outlook Problem Message-ID: > Hence I installed SpamBayes with the Admin Account. [...] > When I logged back in as my normal account, nothing > appearing in Outlook. By default, SpamBayes is only registered for the current user. The 1.1a1 installer includes an option to install for all users, or you can read the configuration guide to see how to do this with 1.0.4. Note that if you register for all users, the plug-in will not show up in the Outlook COM add-ins list for *any* user. (The plug-in will work, however). =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Sat Jul 16 05:34:12 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:34:12 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Stopping training Message-ID: > Can anyone tell me how to set spambayes so that > I do not have to train it for a period? You don't have to do anything to do this - just don't train. You don't say which SpamBayes application you're using. If you're using the Outlook plug-in, then just make sure that 'incremental' training is off (Training tab), and don't use the "Delete as Spam" or "Recover from Spam" buttons. If you're using sb_imapfilter.py, then either don't put new mail in the folders you've told imapfilter contain mail to train, or call imapfilter without the '-t' switch. If you're using sb_server, then just don't use the review page (mail from the last 7 days will still be cached; if you need that disk space, then you can turn caching off). =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Sat Jul 16 05:36:22 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:36:22 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Message-ID: > One of the people in the office keeps getting > a SpamBayes message saying the database is corrupt. You need to retrain from scratch. Either manually delete the default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db files from the Data directory (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Show Data Directory), or retrain via the "Training" tab, ticking the "Rebuild entire database" box. =Tony.Meyer From creamy at anthrotech.net Sun Jul 17 12:04:43 2005 From: creamy at anthrotech.net (Gwendoline) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:04:43 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Software protection computer security. Message-ID: <5084933389.12329164514@nat4.krasnystaw.net> No need to pay more - cheapest OEM online. http://dftos.6valr56hlg6dl76.ollieffmng.com Any tool is a weapon if you hold it right. I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information. From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Mon Jul 18 02:44:11 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:44:11 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Fwd: Update and Verify Your PayPalaccount***************** Message-ID: >> I'm assuming that you subscribed to get answers, since >> I haven't seen any posts from you helping others" > > Most of the emails I've seen (of the ones I've looked at) > have been answers that could be answered by either the > spambayes FAQs or a simple google search and a bit of reading > thus I haven't been too active. I'm all about helping people > interested in helping themselves as opposed to helping people > who aren't motivated to get the answer themselves. Pointing people towards where they can find help (e.g. a specific FAQ question/answer) is really one of the most useful things to do. It's a great way to relieve other people (who can work on complicated questions or actually fix bugs or add features). It's often not the case that people aren't motivated to get the answer themselves, but they don't know enough to do so. Not everyone is good enough with Google to get an answer to a specific SpamBayes question. Not everyone is able to figure out what in the FAQ they ought to be looking at. > Not to mention the one question I posted regarding spambayes > and terminal services went unanswered so I guess your assumption > is wrong. It doesn't seem so to me, but whatever. > What did I do when someone didn't answer my question? I went > out and figured it out myself. When people do that, what really helps is if you reply to your own question, with the answer that you found. That way, next time someone asks that question, it's easier to find the answer (or for those that regularly read messages here, they may remember that someone had figuring out the answer recently, and so know immediately what the answer is). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 18 02:51:15 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:51:15 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I think you solved my spambayes problem but then forgot to > send me the answer. I am sorry for pushing if you are simply > delayed, but life without a functional spam filter is not picnic. Sorry, I've been working away from the normal places over the last few days, and so didn't have access to the patch. I would have got to it today. The change you need to make is very small: *** sb_imapfilter.py 3 Jul 2005 08:53:28 -0000 1.62 --- sb_imapfilter.py 8 Jul 2005 03:24:40 -0000 1.63 *************** *** 273,278 **** "unsure_folder", "ham_folder"]: ! self.select(options["imap", fol]) ! self.expunge() # Expunge messages from the ham and spam training folders. for fol_list in ["ham_train_folders", --- 273,280 ---- "unsure_folder", "ham_folder"]: ! folder_name = options["imap", fol] ! if folder_name: ! self.select(folder_name) ! self.expunge() # Expunge messages from the ham and spam training folders. for fol_list in ["ham_train_folders", =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon Jul 18 03:22:25 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:22:25 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAMBayes Windows Outlook Problem Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50048728B6@SPIKE.city> Why perpetuate this counterintuitive default? It's been a continual source of confusion for longer than I can remember. If the installer has the option to do it either way, at least default it in the direction that most users would expect. Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 * 617-349-4217 * fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org] On > Behalf Of Meyer, Tony > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:31 PM > To: Leon Mar; spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] SPAMBayes Windows Outlook Problem > > > > Hence I installed SpamBayes with the Admin Account. > [...] > > When I logged back in as my normal account, nothing > > appearing in Outlook. > > By default, SpamBayes is only registered for the current > user. The 1.1a1 installer includes an option to install for > all users, or you can read the configuration guide to see how > to do this with 1.0.4. > > Note that if you register for all users, the plug-in will not > show up in the Outlook COM add-ins list for *any* user. (The > plug-in will work, however). > > =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 18 04:07:57 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:07:57 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAMBayes Windows Outlook Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Why perpetuate this counterintuitive default? It's been a > continual source of confusion for longer than I can remember. > If the installer has the option to do it either way, at least > default it in the direction that most users would expect. The reasoning (Mark's; it was nearly before my time) is that if the plug-in is registered for all users, then it doesn't appear in Outlook's list of plug-ins. Back when this was the default, we got lots of emails about that. My hope is that since 1.1 has an option in the installer to choose all users, it will at least be clear to people what is happening. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From LOC201 at comcast.net Mon Jul 18 04:43:54 2005 From: LOC201 at comcast.net (Marvin Weinar) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:43:54 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] unable to use spambayes Message-ID: <002801c58b42$89e4c1e0$6400a8c0@WEINARFAMILY> I went through the steps to configure outlook express, including going to the spambayes config page and entering my APA3 serveer's name in the top box. In outlook express, I went to tools>accounts>properties>servers, and put in localhost. When it didn't work (and after creating and deleting junk mail and possible spam folders, I went back and undid everything I just described above. Now all my mail goes directly to the "deleted" folder. What step am I not doing? Or, how can I figure that out? M. Weinar loc201 at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050717/62def153/attachment.htm From rafael.scholl at bbox.ch Mon Jul 18 17:46:07 2005 From: rafael.scholl at bbox.ch (Rafael Scholl) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:46:07 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050718174504.01ee57a8@mail.bbox.ch> Thank you. I don't know why, but the correction as inserted by me does not appear to work. Could you please send me a corrected sb_imapfilter.py after all? Rafael Scholl At 02:51 18.07.2005, Tony Meyer wrote: > > I think you solved my spambayes problem but then forgot to > > send me the answer. I am sorry for pushing if you are simply > > delayed, but life without a functional spam filter is not picnic. > >Sorry, I've been working away from the normal places over the last few days, >and so didn't have access to the patch. I would have got to it today. > >The change you need to make is very small: > >*** sb_imapfilter.py 3 Jul 2005 08:53:28 -0000 1.62 >--- sb_imapfilter.py 8 Jul 2005 03:24:40 -0000 1.63 >*************** >*** 273,278 **** > "unsure_folder", > "ham_folder"]: >! self.select(options["imap", fol]) >! self.expunge() > # Expunge messages from the ham and spam training folders. > for fol_list in ["ham_train_folders", >--- 273,280 ---- > "unsure_folder", > "ham_folder"]: >! folder_name = options["imap", fol] >! if folder_name: >! self.select(folder_name) >! self.expunge() > # Expunge messages from the ham and spam training folders. > for fol_list in ["ham_train_folders", > >=Tony.Meyer > >-- >Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies >(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. >http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. * Passed viruscheck by Kaspersky Lab Business Enterprise Scanner * From haslatter at ntlworld.com Mon Jul 18 20:31:04 2005 From: haslatter at ntlworld.com (Howard Slatter) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:31:04 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes-Exception Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20050718192436.01f22800@localhost> Hallo, I am running Spambayes 1.0.5 under Windows XP, interfacing with Eudora, on both my own desktop PC and my wife's laptop. As far as I can tell, the two set-ups are identical, and I have no problems at all on my desktop. However, on the laptop things are decidedly different. About half the mail (mainly spam, but some ham as well) picks up the following headers, and comes straight through to the inbox (others are correctly classified as ham or spam or in some cases unsure): X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "sb_server.pyc", line 499, in onRetr . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 263, in setId . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 119, in _getState . File "shelve.pyc", line 118, in __getitem__ . File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 116, in __getitem__ .DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Can anyone tell me what's going on, and how to avoid this? Thanks. -- Howard Slatter Cambridge, England From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jul 19 04:39:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:39:59 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes-Exception In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): > . File "sb_server.pyc", line 499, in onRetr > . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 263, in setId > . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 119, in _getState > . File "shelve.pyc", line 118, in __getitem__ > . File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 116, in __getitem__ > .DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, > run database > recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') > > Can anyone tell me what's going on, and how to avoid this? Please see FAQ 5.2: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From BigMike at gmx.net Wed Jul 20 12:27:46 2005 From: BigMike at gmx.net (BigMike) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:27:46 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and DEP Message-ID: <000001c58d15$ad1a9fc0$15b2a8c0@ifi.lmu.de> Hi, I encounter some problems running SpamBayes 1.0.4 with Outlook XP (SP3) on my Windows XP SP2 system with DEP enabled for all applications (my new CPU is a AMD Turion which supports it). When starting Outlook it crashes and reports an error in the SpamBayes-Addin. After adding Outlook.exe to the exclusion list in the DEP properties, all works fine again. On the one hand I won't miss the features of SpamBayes, on the other, I think DEP is a good thing for internet-related applications like the mail-client. So please try to get SpamBayes working with DEP, Thank you for your time, Mike From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Jul 20 14:02:26 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:02:26 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and DEP Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5004872979@SPIKE.city> I deplore my ignorance, and the necessity of revealing it here, but what is DEP? I'm using WinXP SP2, and I never heard of it. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of BigMike > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:28 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and DEP > > > Hi, > I encounter some problems running SpamBayes 1.0.4 with > Outlook XP (SP3) on my Windows XP SP2 system with DEP enabled > for all applications (my new CPU is a AMD Turion which > supports it). When starting Outlook it crashes and reports an > error in the SpamBayes-Addin. > > After adding Outlook.exe to the exclusion list in the DEP > properties, all works fine again. On the one hand I won't > miss the features of SpamBayes, on the other, I think DEP is > a good thing for internet-related applications like the mail-client. > > So please try to get SpamBayes working with DEP, > Thank you for your time, > Mike From rmalayter at bai.org Wed Jul 20 15:03:25 2005 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:03:25 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and DEP Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A046D0A95@cliff.bai.org> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Coe, Bob > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:02 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and DEP > > I deplore my ignorance, and the necessity of revealing it > here, but what is DEP? I'm using WinXP SP2, and I never heard of it. > > Bob > From Albert.DSOUZA at iveco.com Wed Jul 20 16:09:09 2005 From: Albert.DSOUZA at iveco.com (DSOUZA Albert) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:09:09 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: recover from spam button missing Message-ID: The "recover from spam" button missing seems to be missing when I view an additional mailbox. That is, when I open my boss's outlook today mailbox and highlight /select "junk suspects" folder the recover from spam button is missing although there seems to be plenty of room for all three buttons on the toolbar albert dsouza email:albert.dsouza at iveco.com office tel:01923 259 505 mobile:0792 113 1429 Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily those of any Iveco Group Company. In addition no Iveco Group Company accepts any legal responsibility for or in connection with the contents of this e-mail. 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I'm not optimistic about that, because > moderation is a round-the-clock never-ending task that typically burns > people out no matter how fervent their initial zeal. > > BTW, there is _some_ spam filtering on this list. If a message scores > extraordinarily high for spaminess, it is held for moderator review. > I reject about 15 such spams per day sent to this list. Doesn't python.org have various forms of built-in spam filtering anyway? I know some of it is turned off for the spambayes list, but others are still there, afaik. Anthony -- Anthony Baxter It's never too late to have a happy childhood. From petri.malk at pp.nic.fi Wed Jul 20 17:57:45 2005 From: petri.malk at pp.nic.fi (Petri Malk) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:57:45 +0300 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible bug (Outlook once in safe mode and then in normal) Message-ID: <20050720155751.DA3F0F03A1@gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi> I have OL 2003 & SP1 English. PC runs on XP Pro Finnish & SP1. When this problem started, my SpamBayes was 1.0.4. Today I switched off my compter accidentally from switch instead of Start -> Shut down. OL was running. Next time I started computer, OL told me that it was closed wrongly last time and suggested starting Outlook in safe mode. I accepted it and OL checked some file consistency. Then I closed OL and restarted it in normal mode. What is happening now is that SB seems to be dead. There are Delete as spam button and SpamBayes dropdown menu button but they are dead. No new mail is scored any more. Then I downloaded SB 1.1 and restarted OL again. The buttons are still dead and new mail is not scored (spam percentage). So filtering does not work. Does this have anything to do with the "Start Outlook in safe mode" or is this a coincidence? I read your bug page and did not find anything related to this issue. Thank you in advance. SpamBayes is more than 99.99 % accurate when it is trained correctly. You have done a great job. Mr Petri Malk FINLAND From Howard.Brazee at cusys.edu Wed Jul 20 20:58:25 2005 From: Howard.Brazee at cusys.edu (Howard Brazee) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:58:25 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing SPAM folder name Message-ID: <29BB322820956B4AA245B37C44C335895C8EB6@ex2k3.ad.cusys.edu> I recently upgraded my Outlook and it has its own Junk E-mail1 folder that is populated by Exchange's junk-mail program. It doesn't do as good of a job as spambayes does, but it has the advantage in that I don't get "you've got mail" with stuff that has been moved to junk folders. So now I have three folders, because Spambayes uses Junk Suspects & Spam. Is there any way to tell Spambayes to use Junk Email1 instead of Spam? From jim.mcmaster at comcast.net Wed Jul 20 21:15:11 2005 From: jim.mcmaster at comcast.net (Jim McMaster) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:15:11 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing SPAM folder name In-Reply-To: <29BB322820956B4AA245B37C44C335895C8EB6@ex2k3.ad.cusys.edu> Message-ID: <20050720191619.B9CCE1E4009@bag.python.org> On Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:58 PM, Howard Brazee wrote: > I recently upgraded my Outlook and it has its own Junk E-mail1 folder > that is populated by Exchange's junk-mail program. It doesn't do as > good of a job as spambayes does, but it has the advantage in that I > don't get "you've got mail" with stuff that has been moved to junk > folders. > > So now I have three folders, because Spambayes uses Junk Suspects & > Spam. Is there any way to tell Spambayes to use Junk Email1 instead of > Spam? Open the SpamBayes manager. On the Filtering tab, you can select the destinations for the Junk and Possible Junk folders. -- Jim McMaster mailto:jim.mcmaster at comcast.net From invalids at goodman.net Thu Jul 21 00:26:51 2005 From: invalids at goodman.net (Dob) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:26:51 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] No need to pay more - cheapest OEM online. Message-ID: <4397542023.66107110174@154.10.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com> Full version of the software. http://galmk.wlibhdwpt6w3bxw.dcmioceneim.com The higher your station, the less your liberty. Man has responsibility, not power. From claude_jones at levitjames.com Thu Jul 21 01:01:00 2005 From: claude_jones at levitjames.com (Claude Jones) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:01:00 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes, AVG antivirus, and Thunderbird on Windows Message-ID: <200507201901.00842.claude_jones@levitjames.com> I've used the Windows installer to install the binary version of sb_server. It reported no errors, and I'm able to access the configuration page. 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I've searched for some type of spam log to see if I could manually remove the contact, but have been unsuccessful in finding one. I'm currently using Windows XP Professional / Spam Bayes version 1.04 (March 2005) Lorna Marcoux - Sales Coordinator Greenwood Emergency Vehicles, Inc. Direct: 508.809.9811 www.GreenwoodEV.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050721/4df8670c/attachment.htm From tim.peters at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 21:15:06 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:15:06 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] siSpamFilterEngine has encountered a problem and needs In-Reply-To: <000001c58e1c$69e68270$0c01a8c0@freeflow3> References: <000001c58e1c$69e68270$0c01a8c0@freeflow3> Message-ID: <1f7befae05072112152d6cb2f4@mail.gmail.com> [Arjan] > I get this Error message every email I receive. HELP! > > > > Siffed through the faq and bugs couldnot find the answer there Sorry, siSpamFilterEngine has nothing to do with the SpamBayes project. Suggest you go to http://www.google.com and search for siSpamFilterEngine, in order to find an appropriate place to discuss it. From andy.pabst at planthaven.com Thu Jul 21 23:11:50 2005 From: andy.pabst at planthaven.com (Andy Pabst) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:11:50 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and Exchange Server Message-ID: <9DC3262304BA774E9B141C0D0E4C38AC7322CE@PLANTHAVEN.PlantHaven.com> Hello all, I have downloaded, installed, and setup successfully SpamBayes on my Client machine (WinXP Pro, outlookXP, SP2), and it works absolutely fine. Though, in my company we run an exchange server (2000), and I was wondering if anyone knows a way to install SpamBayes as server-side to communicate directly with Exchange, mostly so I don't have to go around to each employee's computer and install SpamBayes. If you guys and gals out there have any ideas/hints/advice, I would love to here it! Thanks a million everyone, Andy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050721/e1802044/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 22 01:25:23 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:25:23 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and Exchange Server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [...] > I was wondering if anyone knows a way to install SpamBayes > as server-side to communicate directly with Exchange, mostly > so I don't have to go around to each employee's computer and > install SpamBayes. Please see FAQ 6.2: (The FAQ includes a link to notes that people who have used SpamBayes server-side have provided). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 22 01:56:23 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:56:23 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] spam question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have contact that continually goes into my "spam" folder > that shouldn't. [...] > Can you help me with this please? [...] The only way to know why a message scored what it did is to look at the clues for the message (everyone's training is unique, so the clues are specific to your individually trained SpamBayes). To see the clues for a message, select the message (before you train on it), and choose "Show spam clues for this message" from the SpamBayes menu on the toolbar. That will open up a new message that includes the clues. You might be able to see from this why it scores what it does, but if you can't, then please send that clues message on to this list (spambayes at python.org) and we'll do our best to explain why it's scoring what it is, and what you can do to change that. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 22 02:24:30 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:24:30 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes, AVG antivirus, and Thunderbird on Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [...] > I took a look at AVG's settings page, and it is proxying as well > on port 10110. I guess I have to proxy the proxy or something like > that. Take a look at FAQ 5.4: It describes what to do, but not in a step-by-step way, so let us know if you need more help. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 22 02:33:57 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:33:57 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible bug (Outlook once in safe mode and then innormal) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > What is happening now is that SB seems to be dead. There are > Delete as spam button and SpamBayes dropdown menu button but > they are dead. The most likely explanation is that Outlook has disabled the plug-in. You can check the list of disabled plug-ins by choosing "About Microsoft Outlook" from the "Help" menu, and then clicking "Disabled Items". If SpamBayes is there, then just re-enable it. If this isn't the problem, let us know and we can investigate further. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 22 07:11:12 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:11:12 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: recover from spam button missing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The "recover from spam" button missing seems to be missing > when I view an additional mailbox. > > That is, when I open my boss's outlook today mailbox and > highlight /select "junk suspects" folder the recover from > spam button is missing although there seems to be plenty of > room for all three buttons on the toolbar Please take a look at the troubleshooting guide (SpamBayes->Help->Troubleshooting Guide) and try the various steps in the section about toolbar problems. If none of those help, please let us know, and include a copy of the most recent log file. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 22 07:15:15 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:15:15 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and DEP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [BigMike] >>> After adding Outlook.exe to the exclusion list in the DEP >>> properties, all works fine again. On the one hand I won't >>> miss the features of SpamBayes, on the other, I think DEP is >>> a good thing for internet-related applications like the mail-client. >>> >>> So please try to get SpamBayes working with DEP, [Bob Coe] >> I deplore my ignorance, and the necessity of revealing it >> here, but what is DEP? I'm using WinXP SP2, and I never heard of it. [Ryan Malayter] > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352 See also this bug tracker (I'm not familiar with DEP either, but it sounds like the same thing to me): [ 988095 ] Athlon64, SP2, NX (no execute)=no workee There's nothing really to add other than what Tim's comment on that tracker says, apart from "patches are welcome". =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 22 07:17:24 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:17:24 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] unable to use spambayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I went through the steps to configure outlook express, > including going to the spambayes config page and entering > my APA3 serveer's name in the top box. In outlook express, > I went to tools>accounts>properties>servers, and put in > localhost. When it didn't work (and after creating and > deleting junk mail and possible spam folders, I went back > and undid everything I just described above. Please describe "didn't work" more fully. Did you get an error? If so, what was it? Did no mail arrive? Did mail arrive but didn't get caught by your rules in OE? Did mail arrive but not get classified? What happened if you looked at the review page in the SpamBayes web interface - was there mail there? What does the log files say? (The troubleshooting guide explains how to find the log files). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 22 07:18:43 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:18:43 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py error with option -e y In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thank you. I don't know why, but the correction as inserted > by me does not appear to work. Could you please send me a corrected > sb_imapfilter.py after all? Attached. If this doesn't work, let me know (it did appear to fix the problem here). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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From claude_jones at levitjames.com Sat Jul 23 02:36:40 2005 From: claude_jones at levitjames.com (Claude Jones) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:36:40 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes, AVG antivirus, and Thunderbird on Windows In-Reply-To: <200507201901.00842.claude_jones@levitjames.com> References: <200507201901.00842.claude_jones@levitjames.com> Message-ID: <200507222036.40799.claude_jones@levitjames.com> On Wednesday 20 July 2005 7:01 pm, Claude Jones wrote: > I've used the Windows installer to install the binary version of sb_server. > It reported no errors, and I'm able to access the configuration page. I > configured it to proxy pop on port 1110 and entered localhost for the > server. When I try to access mail, I can see AVG popping up a little > informational dialog. The mail access failed without a meaningful message. > I took a look at AVG's settings page, and it is proxying as well on port > 10110. I guess I have to proxy the proxy or something like that. I couldn't > find any instructions on the website. I did a search of the archives, and > turned up several folks who were using the same combination of software, > but no explanations as to how they configured it. Could someone give me a > hand? > I'm going to reply to myself, here, as a way of replying to a couple of responses I got off list. After reading the relevant section of the faq (sorry, Tony, I'd actually looked at the faq before posting the above, but completely missed that section!) and looking at the other suggestion I got, here's what I tried: AVG sets itself up with rather confusing settings, that 'just work' but it's not clear why. In the POP3 Server properties window it has the following: Three radio buttons labelled 'Automatic', 'USER/COMPUTER', 'Fixed host', with the installation default set to 'Automatic' Under 'Additional Settings' Local port is set 10110 'Use APOP when available' is unchecked Connection is set to 'Regular', with other options for 'Secure to dedicated port' and 'Secure to regular port' 'E-mail client POP3 server settings are set to Per the instructions in the FAQ, I left these alone. In Spambayes I set 'Remote server' to localhost:10110 and 'Spambayes port' to 8110 In my Thunderbird account settings I tried a couple of things: First I left it alone and didn't change anything - this results in mail being routed through the AVG proxy, but not the Spambayes proxy. Then I tried changing the server name to localhost and the port to 8110 This results in a message that Thunderbird is 'connected to localhost' and nothing else - no mail gets downloaded, no error message, just the endless 'connected to localhost' message. -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From mrmoose15 at charter.net Sat Jul 23 20:03:49 2005 From: mrmoose15 at charter.net (Ann) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:03:49 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] I can't Message-ID: <000601c58fb0$e08bedd0$6400a8c0@annsdell> I can't get it to load up for some reason... I have outlook, xp, avg, ad-aware,xoftSpy and McAfee... Love, Ann in Reno, NV GOD BLESS AMERICA Check out www.freecycle.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave White From wilk-ml at flibuste.net Sun Jul 24 13:55:55 2005 From: wilk-ml at flibuste.net (William Dode) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spambayes] how to train with spambayes on server ? Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to use spambayes on a litle server (~100 accounts), i could easily integrate it with exim and procmail wich let me a lot of differents possibilities. I wonder how people will train, i did like this : mails are automaticaly classified in three imap folders : inbox, unsure, spam. And there is an other folder ham. If a mail is not in the good folder they have to move it in spam or ham (by webmail or imap client). A cron job will retrain the folders each day. Is-it ok ? But for people who don't want to/can use the webmail or an imap client i create two virtual account user-spam at server.tld user-ham at server.tld wich goes automaticaly in the imap folders spam and ham, then i ask them to forward the mails. But i'm afraid that i will loose the original headers and corrupt the database. Shall i forget this solution ? Last, i wonder if people can share the same database or not (they speak all the sames langage), thought i can easily give one database for each account... Somebody did the experience ? -- William Dod? - http://flibuste.net From dimensionality at gmx-gmbh.de Sun Jul 24 21:10:21 2005 From: dimensionality at gmx-gmbh.de (Rasmus) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:10:21 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Having problems in bed? We can help! Message-ID: <4459036136.30060110541@APoitiers-152-1-45-131.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr> Take the pill and enjoy great sex http://guagzar.8ntjcr8j5iqgur8.lhbugledbh.com Brains, like hearts, go where they are appreciated. Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about. When its a question of money, everybody is of the same religion. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 25 02:05:37 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:05:37 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] won't load In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > No doubt, you have a nice program. However, it will not run > (load?) with my configuration. I use XP Home, and Outlook > 98. I also use F-Secure firewall and internet protection. > > In looking at your trouble shooting guidelines, one has to be > fairly sophisticated to understand what is wanted to > troubleshoot. I lack the time, the patience, and the > technical know-how. It's not clear whether this is a critique or a request for help. Assuming the latter: * Make sure you are trying to use the POP3 proxy (sb_server) and not the Outlook plug-in. The Outlook plug-in requires Outlook 2000 or above. * What setup have you done? The readme that the installer offers to show you at the end describes the setup required. * What do you mean by saying that it "will not run (load?)"? Does mail still get through to Outlook? Is mail classified but not filtered? Is mail not classified at all? Does mail show up in the SpamBayes review page? * What do your log files have in them? (The troubleshooting guide explains how to find the log files). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 25 02:54:40 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:54:40 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > It sounds great but it looks to be primarily for Microsoft > Outlook. There is a plug-in specific to Outlook, but SpamBayes will work with pretty much any mail setup. > I use Outlook Express and saw it mentioned also. Problem > in finding the correct download to apply to OE. The Windows installer includes everything you need to use either Outlook or any other mail client, including Outlook Express. > Had a download of SpamBayes 1.0.4 which I have removed since > it appeared to be only for Outlook. You'll need to get that again. When you run the installer, it will ask you whether you want to install the Outlook plug-in or sb_server (for all other mail clients). If you don't have Outlook installed, then it should default to sb_server, but make sure that's selected, complete the installer process, and it's installed. (Although you still need to configure it). > I read your trouble-shooting guide and am still stuck [...] FAQ 4.21 has a step-by-step guide to getting SpamBayes to run with Outlook Express, so that's a good place to start. Let us know if you run into any troubles. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jul 25 02:58:06 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:58:06 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] I can't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I can't get it to load up for some reason... > I have outlook, xp, avg, ad-aware,xoftSpy and McAfee... Could you give us some more information? * Are you installing SpamBayes for the first time, or has it been running fine, and has suddenly stopped? If for the first time, what have you done so far? * Do you mean Microsoft Outlook, or Microsoft Outlook Express? You say Outlook, but your message appears to have been sent with Outlook Express. Despite the names, these are very different programs. SpamBayes will work with either, but the process is very different for each of them. * What do you mean by "can't get it to load up"? Do you get any error? Does mail still get delivered? If you look at the SpamBayes review page, does it have mail on it? Is mail classified but not filtered? * Can you get hold of your log files? The troubleshooting guide explains where to find them. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From gary99 at opinionsinc.com Mon Jul 25 19:29:50 2005 From: gary99 at opinionsinc.com (Gary Brueggeman) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:29:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Reporting tools Message-ID: New Page 1 I have been using SpamBayes for a while and really like the product. It identifies spam and redirects it to the folders with accuracy. What I would like to see as an addition to the product is some reporting tool that could send a summary report of the spam hits to some reporting agency for investigation and possible elimination of the spam in the first place. It is great not to have my inbox cluttered with spam. It would be better if I never :-) get spam. Gary Brueggeman Programming and Processing Manager gary99 at opinionsinc.com 16 Sunnen Drive Bldg, 161 St. Louis, Missouri 63143 314.645.8585 / 314.645.7798 FAX www.opinionsinc.com We are Opinions Incorporated. We work with executives in medium to large organizations, using The Strategic Survey Experience? to help them make informed decisions on critical business issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem I am having is [DESCRIBE YOUR PROBLEM HERE]It will detect the spam but does not send it to the spam folder. It stays in my inbox. From hparis at sc.rr.com Tue Jul 26 02:46:46 2005 From: hparis at sc.rr.com (Harold Paris) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:46:46 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Fw: spam,Does not delete the spam to a file. Message-ID: <000e01c5917b$81b33ee0$22d41f18@hp> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "SpamBayes Mailing List" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: spam,Does not delete the spam to a file. >I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), > with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit > (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service > Pack 2). I have trained 113 ham and 489 spam. > > The problem I am having is [DESCRIBE YOUR PROBLEM HERE]It will detect > the spam but does not send it to the spam folder. It stays in my > inbox. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 202 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050725/32d00ab0/SpamBayesServer1.obj From jordan.peterson at sundialsc.com Tue Jul 26 22:17:10 2005 From: jordan.peterson at sundialsc.com (Jordan Peterson) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:17:10 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_server "Permission denied" Message-ID: <42E69A46.6060001@sundialsc.com> I'm using sb_server, SB 1.0.4, on Windows 2000. Every time I try to train using an Outlook Express DBX file, I get the following error: 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 470, in found_terminator File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 508, in onTrain IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '_pop3proxyham.mbox' Is this a common problem? I have write permission on my temp dir (C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temp), but I don't know where this _pop3proxyham.mbox file is being written (or read..?). It doesn't seem to matter whether I train a DBX as ham or spam; I get this error every time. I've tried shutting down and restarting SpamBayes from the tray icon controls. Can anyone offer any advice as to the next troubleshooting step to take? Thanks, Jordan -- ------------------------------- Jordan Peterson Sundial Small Business Services 608-663-8100 x115 jordan.peterson at sundialsc.com ------------------------------- From mabehles at uscsvd.org Tue Jul 26 22:42:36 2005 From: mabehles at uscsvd.org (MaryAnn Behles) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:42:36 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] missing feature Message-ID: <6120A2EDCD408340B9DDF2E3F889B570031AF4@divine3.SVD.local> Hello, We have been enjoying your product however there is one thing I notice. On one of my pc's which has Outlook2003, I can right click the Junk E-Mail folder and it allows me to "Empty Junk Email" folder. However, on another pc which has Outlook2000, I cannot perform this task. I must delete these messages manually and then have to remove them again from the deleted items folder. Is this a potential problem or did I not configure it properly. Any help would be appreciated. Best Regards, Mary Ann Behles From Roger.Painter at dow.com Tue Jul 26 22:42:56 2005 From: Roger.Painter at dow.com (Painter, Roger (RB)) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:42:56 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Question - Uninstall Spambayes Message-ID: How do I uninstall spambayes? Thank you. From melvinslane1 at insightbb.com Wed Jul 27 02:30:20 2005 From: melvinslane1 at insightbb.com (Mel Slane) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:30:20 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Uselessness of SpamBayes for Outlook Message-ID: <20050727003034.CB27A1E4077@bag.python.org> I've been using the Outlook addin for Windows (XP) for several months now, and I'm thoroughly unimpressed. I thought I would give it the benefit of the doubt for the first month or so, but it continues to put the same obvious, pathetic spam emails in the Suspect folder, identical to the ones I've told it were spam many, many times over. Apparently this thing gets to a certain point where it's no longer capable of improving, or the other side is improving faster - either one is a loss for my side. I've actually started over twice now with the teaching process, and both times have ended up with similar results. I think it's time to admit this is not working and go back to a combination of the built-in Outlook filter, which was at least as good as SpamBayes, and Norton IS 2005. Good idea guys but bad execution. Mel Slane Peoria, IL -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050726/860cd6d6/attachment.htm From dudetwo at comcast.net Wed Jul 27 02:35:56 2005 From: dudetwo at comcast.net (DOUGLAS ANDERSON) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:35:56 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Not working Message-ID: <000701c59243$27663140$8cf61f42@clutz> I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.3 (January 2005) (binary), with version 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). 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Name: SpamBayesServer3.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 240 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050726/7fb9d69a/SpamBayesServer3.obj From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Wed Jul 27 06:48:37 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:48:37 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_server "Permission denied" Message-ID: > I'm using sb_server, SB 1.0.4, on Windows 2000. > Every time I try to train using an Outlook Express > DBX file, I get the following error: [...] > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '_pop3proxyham.mbox' > > Is this a common problem? No, but that is because it is pretty uncommon (AFAIK) for people to use the "Train" box on the main page. Since we recommend against training in bulk (see ) few people find the need to use it. However, I believe if people did use this function, then it would be common (see below). > I have write permission on my temp dir [...], but I don't > know where this _pop3proxyham.mbox file is being written > (or read..?). It's written in the current working directory. Where that might be for you, I'm not sure. You can probably set the shortcut that starts SpamBayes to change the CWD to somewhere else (like the temp folder) and that should fix the problem. This has been fixed in CVS (it's fixed in 1.1a1, but that's pretty broken for sb_server, so you'd need to wait for 1.1a2 or use source from CVS), so that these files don't get written out when using the "Train" box (they are added to the corpus caches instead, which is the proper action). =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Wed Jul 27 06:52:58 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:52:58 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] missing feature Message-ID: > On one of my pc's which has Outlook2003, I can right click > the Junk E-Mail folder and it allows me to "Empty Junk Email" > folder. However, on another pc which has Outlook2000, I cannot > perform this task. This is actually something that Microsoft added to Outlook 2003 (it's not in 2002, either). They added a "Junk E-Mail" folder, and added the custom delete item to the context menu. All we did was default to using the same name, so that we'll use that folder if it's there, so that we get the advantage of this. I don't think it's possible to add an item to a context menu in Outlook, so this isn't something we can add for users of older Outlook versions. SpamBayes 1.1 (1.1a1 is out now) does have a "Empty Spam Folder" item from the SpamBayes menu on the toolbar, which is about as good as we can get. > I must delete these messages manually and then have to > remove them again from the deleted items folder. If you hold down shift when you delete mail, it will be immediately deleted and not moved to the Deleted Items folder (this is true with or without SpamBayes). Of course, you can't change your mind if you do this, so use at your own risk. > Is this a potential problem or did I not configure it > properly. It's not really a problem - perhaps slightly more hassle, but there's limits to what we can do, unfortunately. Outlook does have an "AutoArchive" facility that you can use to automatically clear out messages from the Junk folder, if that would be of use. (Outlook help has more about it; I don't use it personally). =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Wed Jul 27 06:54:33 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:54:33 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Question - Uninstall Spambayes Message-ID: > How do I uninstall spambayes? Please see FAQ 3.16: (If you're not using the Outlook plug-in, the process is pretty similar, but not the same. If you need more help, please ask again, being more specific). =Tony.Meyer From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz Wed Jul 27 06:56:41 2005 From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:56:41 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Uselessness of SpamBayes for Outlook Message-ID: > I've been using the Outlook addin for Windows (XP) for > several months now, and I'm thoroughly unimpressed. [blah blah blah] > Good idea guys but bad execution. You're welcome to use it or not, of course, and we offer a full refund if you're not happy with it . Basically, you'll find it as good as your training data. If you train it well, then you should easily get basically 0 false positives, a couple of percent of false negatives, and under 5 percent unsure. If you'd like help figuring out why it's not working for you, then the FAQ has suggestions about how to ask those questions. =Tony.Meyer From peterb at zeta.org.au Wed Jul 27 09:50:11 2005 From: peterb at zeta.org.au (Peter Barker) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:50:11 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing on Linux Message-ID: I have downloaded version 1.1a1, which I want to use with procmail. When I run: python setup.py install I get a message: running install error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) I am running Mandrake, with python 2.4 (my python rpm is python-2.4-5mdk). The directory /usr/lib/python2.4 has many files, but not a sub-directory called config. Can I just copy the required files manually? If so, what files (or directories) are needed to use spambayes with procmail? Thanks, Peter Barker From lubomir.kudrna at op62.vzp.cz Wed Jul 27 12:09:05 2005 From: lubomir.kudrna at op62.vzp.cz (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kudrna_Lubom=EDr_=28Chrudim=29?=) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:09:05 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Please help Message-ID: Where I am doing errs? (sorry, I don't know English; send pictures) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Like the one that kept the Boston Red Sox from winning the World Series for 86 years.) Maybe you should consider seeking advice from an exorcist. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mel Slane Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:30 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Uselessness of SpamBayes for Outlook I've been using the Outlook addin for Windows (XP) for several months now, and I'm thoroughly unimpressed. I thought I would give it the benefit of the doubt for the first month or so, but it continues to put the same obvious, pathetic spam emails in the Suspect folder, identical to the ones I've told it were spam many, many times over. Apparently this thing gets to a certain point where it's no longer capable of improving, or the other side is improving faster - either one is a loss for my side. I've actually started over twice now with the teaching process, and both times have ended up with similar results. I think it's time to admit this is not working and go back to a combination of the built-in Outlook filter, which was at least as good as SpamBayes, and Norton IS 2005. Good idea guys but bad execution. Mel Slane Peoria, IL -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050727/5249baa7/attachment.htm From jordan.peterson at sundialsc.com Wed Jul 27 17:38:59 2005 From: jordan.peterson at sundialsc.com (Jordan Peterson) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:38:59 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_server "Permission denied" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42E7AA93.4060700@sundialsc.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050727/60b42516/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Wed Jul 27 18:51:24 2005 From: skip at pobox.com (skip@pobox.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:51:24 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Uselessness of SpamBayes for Outlook In-Reply-To: <20050727003034.CB27A1E4077@bag.python.org> References: <20050727003034.CB27A1E4077@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <17127.48012.820362.511065@montanaro.dyndns.org> I've been using the Outlook addin for Windows (XP) for several months now, and I'm thoroughly unimpressed. I thought I would give it the benefit of the doubt for the first month or so, but it continues to put the same obvious, pathetic spam emails in the Suspect folder, identical to the ones I've told it were spam many, many times over. Could you post one such message with the clues your instance of SpamBayes generated for it? Also, what are the properties of your training database? How many spams and how many hams have you trained on? Are you sure you didn't make any training mistakes? There are a fair number of us using SpamBayes quite happily, so I'm more inclined to think the root cause is either a configuration problem or pilot error. (I have committed many pilot errors myself, so I don't suggest that as an attempt to deflect blame away from SB.) Skip From jszyman3 at merr.com Wed Jul 27 23:43:04 2005 From: jszyman3 at merr.com (Jeff Szymanski) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:43:04 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes with PC Cillin Internet Sec 2005 Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20050727163326.01c5e778@localhost> Hello. Spambayes worked fine until I installed PC Cillin Internet Security 2005. Now, whenever I try to send an email, my mail server times out and the mail is not sent. I do find however, that if I change the mail server's name to its actual name (mail.merr.com) from "localhost," I CAN send email. So it seems there's a conflict between Spambayes and the PC Cillin program. Has anyone else complained of this? Thanks in advance. From minkster at zoominternet.net Wed Jul 27 23:57:07 2005 From: minkster at zoominternet.net (Chris ) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:57:07 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] upgrade problems Message-ID: <000001c592f6$220a07e0$0a01a8c0@cmusernkolx053> Recently I downloaded the newer version and ran the install. That seemed to work fine, no errors. However the spam filter is not working in my other profiles. Originally I had to set a registry entry to have spam bayes run in all my profiles and it has been working fine until I upgraded versions. Can you direct me to the proper solution. Thanks, Chris Mink -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Now, whenever I try to send an email, my mail server times >>out and the mail is not sent. >> >>I do find however, that if I change the mail server's name to its >>actual name (mail.merr.com) from "localhost," I CAN send email. >> >>So it seems there's a conflict between Spambayes and the PC Cillin >>program. Has anyone else complained of this? > >it just occurred to me to question why "localhost" should be entered >at all as the SMTP (outgoing) server since Spaybayes is only >concerned with incoming mail. > >Thanks in advance. > >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 Cecil Bayona KD5NWA www.qrpradio.com 'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.' From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jul 28 07:30:38 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:30:38 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing on Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have downloaded version 1.1a1, which I want to use with > procmail. When I run: > python setup.py install > I get a message: > running install > error: invalid Python installation: unable to open > /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) > > I am running Mandrake, with python 2.4 (my python rpm is > python-2.4-5mdk). You might need a "python devel" package. Many linux distributions put distutils in a separate "development" package of Python (which is pretty stupid IMO). [...] > Can I just copy the required files manually? If so, what files (or > directories) are needed to use spambayes with procmail? You don't need to use distutils, no. Put the spambayes directory (the one with __init__.py in it) anywhere you like, and make sure that Python can find it. The easiest way to do that is make sure that the path to is in the environment variable PYTHONPATH. Then all you need is whatever scripts you plan on running (e.g. sb_filter and sb_mboxtrain) and you can run them from wherever you like. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jul 28 07:53:50 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:53:50 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] upgrade problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > However the spam filter is not working in my other profiles. [...] I'm not sure which version you are referring to by "newer version". If you are using 1.1a1, then you should be able to do this by selecting "install for all users" in the installer. If you are using 1.0.4, then you need to do this manually. The troubleshooting guide has the details, but essentially you need to run the outlook_addin_register.exe application in the "bin" directory you installed spambayes into with "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE" as a parameter. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From peterb at zeta.org.au Thu Jul 28 10:02:42 2005 From: peterb at zeta.org.au (Peter Barker) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:02:42 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing on Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Tony, I could not find the file in any of the rpm packages distributed with Mandrake 10.2 (there is no python-devel package). There are some distutils installed, but no config directory. They must have decided it wasn't important!!!! Copying the spambayes and scripts directories and setting PYTHONPATH worked fine though, as long as I set it in .procmailrc (not just .bash_profile). I was upgrading from version 1.0, and am using the same .hammiedb I was using previously, and just had to modify my configuration file (.spambayesrc) to suit the new version. Peter Barker On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Tony Meyer wrote: > > I have downloaded version 1.1a1, which I want to use with > > procmail. When I run: > > python setup.py install > > I get a message: > > running install > > error: invalid Python installation: unable to open > > /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) > > > > I am running Mandrake, with python 2.4 (my python rpm is > > python-2.4-5mdk). > > You might need a "python devel" package. Many linux distributions put > distutils in a separate "development" package of Python (which is pretty > stupid IMO). > > [...] > > Can I just copy the required files manually? If so, what files (or > > directories) are needed to use spambayes with procmail? > > You don't need to use distutils, no. Put the spambayes directory (the one > with __init__.py in it) anywhere you like, and make sure that Python can > find it. The easiest way to do that is make sure that the path to is in the > environment variable PYTHONPATH. Then all you need is whatever scripts you > plan on running (e.g. sb_filter and sb_mboxtrain) and you can run them from > wherever you like. > > =Tony.Meyer > > From jiri.skranc at volny.cz Thu Jul 28 10:27:07 2005 From: jiri.skranc at volny.cz (=?iso-8859-2?B?qWtyYW5jIEpp+O0=?=) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:27:07 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] question Message-ID: <000001c5934e$277442b0$b587b10a@acerk8q02ga4ai> hi, I ask you about an advice.I had problem with Spambyes function,so I reinstalled Spambayes and MS Outlook.But there is still a mistake. There doesnt start Wizzard for Spambayes and I cant start it. I cant find a spambayes manager,in programs is only "about ...." and "troubleshoshooting guide" .I didnt find answer to my problem. I have MS windows XP, MS outlook XP Can you help me? thanks Ing.Ji?? ?kranc vedouc? projektu Metrostav a.s. divize 6 Na Florenci 35 110 00 Praha 1 M 602 237 608 F 602 208 874 E-mail jiri.skranc at volny.cz www.metrostav.cz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050728/559cac3e/attachment.htm From vys0 at epf.pl Thu Jul 28 13:59:22 2005 From: vys0 at epf.pl (Vys0) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:59:22 +0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Linux 1.1a1 CVS - DB error again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200507281159.22631.vys0@epf.pl> Ehhh, this is annoying :/ I run spambayes for some time now ... and I can not say it is not working fine for me. But - every 2-3 weeks I encounter the following problem. Is it really not possible to get this working withouth those errors? I use version from CVS, which was supposed to be DBerror-free, wasn't it ? What is strange - this only stopped working for one account, or so it seems (zasp.zasp.pl) And if you could remind me - which file am I to delete, to be able to receive my emails correctly? | | \/ [vys0 at agnich spambayes]$ sb_server.py SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.1a1 (April 2005) Loading database... Listener on port 1210 is proxying www.maximail.pl:110 Listener on port 1211 is proxying zasp.zasp.pl:110 Listener on port 1212 is proxying hydral.com.pl:110 Listener on port 1213 is proxying nowyport.pl:110 Listener on port 1214 is proxying wiedzmin.org:995 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_server.py", line 564, in onRetr msg.addSBHeaders(prob, clues) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 452, in addSBHeaders self.RememberClassification(disposition) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 401, in RememberClassification self.modified() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 377, in modified self.message_info_db.store_msg(self) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 181, in store_msg self.db[msg.getDBKey()] = attributes File "/usr/src/build/475206-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.3/shelve.py", line 130, in __setitem__ self.dict[key] = f.getvalue() File "/usr/src/build/475206-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.3/bsddb/__init__.py", line 120, in __setitem__ DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: Invalid argument') Exception bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in > ignored Exception bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in ignored Exception bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in ignored Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_server.py", line 564, in onRetr msg.addSBHeaders(prob, clues) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 452, in addSBHeaders self.RememberClassification(disposition) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 401, in RememberClassification self.modified() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 377, in modified self.message_info_db.store_msg(self) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 181, in store_msg self.db[msg.getDBKey()] = attributes File "/usr/src/build/475206-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.3/shelve.py", line 130, in __setitem__ self.dict[key] = f.getvalue() File "/usr/src/build/475206-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.3/bsddb/__init__.py", line 120, in __setitem__ DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: Invalid argument') Exception bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in > ignored Exception bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in ignored Exception bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in ignored From security at www.bankofthewest.com Thu Jul 28 11:28:41 2005 From: security at www.bankofthewest.com (security@www.bankofthewest.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Unauthorized transactions on your account Message-ID: <20050728092841.1E9D347638@osxserver.bestofnz.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have been using Spam Bayes to filter my email for over a year with no problems until recently. My Junk E-mail continues to consistently filters over 100 Spam per day (however it does have a red circle with line on the icon now??) MY Junk Suspects no long filters anything. The Spam (constantly increasing in quantity) which used to be sent to my Junk Suspects now clutters up my Inbox. Please help me solve this problem. Eleanor Van Campen email: evancampen at pacbell.net Tel: 650-941-9088 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050728/d5ef952b/attachment.htm From BGLandes at dow.com Thu Jul 28 20:22:23 2005 From: BGLandes at dow.com (Landes, Brian (BG)) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:22:23 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Messages failing to filter Message-ID: Here is my log file. My messages will only filter if I manually tell spambayes to filter. The enable filtering box is checked. Thanks. Brian <> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 17854 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050728/43610299/spambayes1.obj From zslocumb at knology.net Thu Jul 28 22:18:24 2005 From: zslocumb at knology.net (Zane) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Not Running... Message-ID: <000601c593b1$81d87bf0$6600a8c0@DELL> To Whom It May Concern: I have read your "Troubleshooting Guide" and I did not see this particulary issue addressed. My SpamBayes will not "turn on"...how do I fix that? BTW, I am running it with Windows XP Home and Outlook Express. Thanks, Zane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050728/af7f612b/attachment.htm From kd5nwa at cox.net Fri Jul 29 00:58:12 2005 From: kd5nwa at cox.net (KD5NWA) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:58:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] [SpamBayes] Spam bayes In-Reply-To: <000601c593c2$d07898b0$f5650018@THEARTS> References: <000601c593c2$d07898b0$f5650018@THEARTS> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20050728175247.01c80558@localhost> Every spambayes email has the address of the list on it where you can change your settings or remove yourself from the list. Here is a link to it; < http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > At the bottom of that page there is a button that you can click to un-subscribe, It will ask for your email address and your password, then after you click un un-subscribe button you are gone from the list. At 05:22 PM 7/28/2005, Jeann Wisenbaker wrote: >Pleasse disconnect me from all Spam bayes, Please. Jeann >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 7/27/2005 Cecil Bayona KD5NWA www.qrpradio.com 'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.' From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 01:19:12 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:19:12 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] LIST OF SPAM ADDRESSES In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > IS THEIR A WAY TO SEE A LIST OF SPAM ADDRESSES? SpamBayes doesn't work by looking at addresses (see the website for information about how it *does* work, if you are interested). It is possible to dump the token database into a CSV file (to open in, e.g., Excel), but that's complicated. We can give you instructions if you like. What are you wanting this for? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 01:23:21 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:23:21 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam bayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Pleasse disconnect me from all Spam bayes, Please. Are you asking to unsubscribe from the mailing list (see the link at the end of every message), or for help uninstalling the software (see the FAQ)? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 01:24:12 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:24:12 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Removing from Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I want to try Outlook without Spambayes. Please see FAQ 3.16: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Jul 29 01:30:12 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:30:12 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Removing from Outlook In-Reply-To: <42E96123.5080105@virgin.net> References: <42E96123.5080105@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1f7befae05072816306941d370@mail.gmail.com> [Jim Scott] > I want to try Outlook without Spambayes. I have uninstalled it, but it still > appears as a toolbar option in Outlook. How do I get rid of this? Visit the FAQ: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html and look for "3.16 How do I uninstall the plug-in?". What to do about the toolbar is explained at the end of that: Note that a bug with the plug-in means that the SpamBayes toolbar is not deleted on uninstall - although it will stop working. You can delete this yourself in Outlook: right-click on the toolbar, choose "Customize", then select the SpamBayes toolbar and click "Delete". From wakum_alex at yahoo.com Fri Jul 29 03:33:51 2005 From: wakum_alex at yahoo.com (alexander wakum) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Sex pictures Message-ID: <20050729013351.16747.qmail@web53403.mail.yahoo.com> --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050728/a0f4a436/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 04:05:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:05:46 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Not Running... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My SpamBayes will not "turn on"...how do I fix that? BTW, > I am running it with Windows XP Home and Outlook Express. What do you mean by "turn on"? Do you mean that you don't see the little SpamBayes icon in the tray (collection of icons next to the clock)? Or do you mean something else? Did you set SpamBayes up, as described in FAQ 4.21: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 04:07:25 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:07:25 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I had problem with Spambyes function, so I reinstalled Spambayes > and MS Outlook. [...] > I cant find a spambayes manager, What you should have is a SpamBayes toolbar in Outlook, on which should be a "SpamBayes" button - if you click that, then the Manager should be an option there. See if Outlook has disabled the plug-in. Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 04:09:39 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:09:39 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Recover from Spam email not going to Inbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When I recover an email msg. in the "Junk Suspects" folder, > they don't always go back into the Inbox [...] Messages aren't meant to go back to the Inbox, they are meant to go back to whichever folder they came from. Is that not the case? If so, could you provide your most recent log file again, and tell us the subject of a message that didn't recover to the right place (so we can find the right entry in the log), and tell us where it went? (Outlook's Advanced Find will find it, wherever it is). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 04:12:26 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:12:26 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes with PC Cillin Internet Sec 2005 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I do find however, that if I change the mail server's name > to its actual name (mail.merr.com) from "localhost," I CAN > send email. > > So it seems there's a conflict between Spambayes and the PC > Cillin program. At a guess, PC Cillin uses some sort of proxy, so you'll have to chain the proxies together. FAQ 5.4 talks about this: > it just occurred to me to question why "localhost" should be > entered at all as the SMTP (outgoing) server since Spaybayes > is only concerned with incoming mail. You only need to use the SpamBayes SMTP proxy if you want to train via forwarding messages to SpamBayes. If you train via the review page on the web interface, then you shouldn't enter anything in the SMTP options in the configuration page, and you should leave the SMTP server in your mail client alone. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 04:16:38 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:16:38 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have entered pop3.mail.comcast.net in the remote servers box [...] I am not familiar with comcast, but looking at their website, it appears that the correct incoming mail server is "mail.comcast.net". Try entering that in the remote servers box, and see if that fixes the problem. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 04:20:50 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:20:50 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] won't load In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > But, first, I am relatively certain the > setup info did not indicate an incompatibility with O98. Very possibly true. However, it is pointed out in the FAQ and website: If there somewhere else that you'd suggest putting this information? > Anyway, I reinstalled the software using your POP3 suggestion. I added > my mail server info and saved it. Then, I sent a test message to myself. > Nothing out of the ordinary happened - the test message downloaded, > automatically, into my inbox. That will be what happens. The proxy adds a classification header to all incoming messages, which you can then create rules for in Outlook. Did you change your mail account(s) in Outlook to connect to "localhost" instead of directly to your mail server? > I checked the SamBayes "Review Messages" icon, and, as suspected, > found nothing. However, all incoming messages should be listed there, if the proxy is proxying mail. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jul 29 04:32:40 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:32:40 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] Fw: spam,Does not delete the spam to a file. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The problem I am having is it will detect the spam but does > not send it to the spam folder. It stays in my inbox. SpamBayes (apart from the Outlook plug-in) is not a filter, just a classifier, so this is all that it is meant to do. The idea is that it is extremely simple to create rules in your mail client do filter this mail once it has been classified, and you can tell your client to do whatever you like with the mail (move it, delete is, colour it, ...). FAQ 4.21 contains an example of setting up rules to move messages in Outlook Express. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Fri Jul 29 13:36:07 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 07:36:07 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] missing feature Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5004872B78@SPIKE.city> I hoe that default doesn't do more harm than good. Outlook 2002 doesn't have the "Empty Junk E-mail" button, but it does have a "Delete Junk E-mail" button. That button deletes the entire folder, not just its contents. One of the most common errors by users of the Spambayes Outlook plugin is to inadvertently delete their spam folders. If a user knows how the Junk E-mail folder works in Outlook 2003, he may well assume that the "Delete Junk E-mail" button in Outlook 2002 works the same way. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Tony > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:53 AM > To: MaryAnn Behles; spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] missing feature > > > > On one of my pc's which has Outlook2003, I can right click the Junk > > E-Mail folder and it allows me to "Empty Junk Email" folder. However, > > on another pc which has Outlook2000, I cannot perform this task. > > This is actually something that Microsoft added to Outlook > 2003 (it's not in 2002, either). They added a "Junk E-Mail" > folder, and added the custom delete item to the context menu. > All we did was default to using the same name, so that we'll > use that folder if it's there, so that we get the advantage of this. > > ... From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jul 30 03:19:29 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:19:29 +1200 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Not Running... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have the icon in my Systems Tray, but it tells me that > "SpamBayes is not running" and I cannot get it to "run" by > clicking on it or opening it. In that case, we'll need to see your log files to know what is going wrong. These are in your temp directory, probably 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp' and called SpambayesServer1.log, SpambayesServer2.log, and so forth. > I did not know about the specific problems SpamBayes has with > Outlook Express until after I downloaded it [...] thus, I am > considering deleting it and doing a clean download. What do > you suggest? Problems? What problems? Outlook Express is an extremely limited mail client (probably *the* most limited mail client in use; even many webmail systems have more functionality) and so you have to do more work to get SpamBayes running, but there aren't any problems, AFAIK. Certainly it seems unlikely that reinstalling with help anything. (The logs will have information about what is wrong, and then we can explain how to fix it). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From mschoon at shanksbutler.com Sat Jul 30 12:04:00 2005 From: mschoon at shanksbutler.com (mschoon@shanksbutler.com) Date: 30 Jul 2005 05:04:00 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Digest, Vol 83, Issue 39 Message-ID: <20050730100400.30337.qmail@vhost05.ev1servers.net> I will be out of the office from August 1, 2005 to August 5, 2005. During this time, service calls may be directed to Martha Dodson (mdodson at shanksbutler.com) at 713-952-5662 if you are an employee of Shanks, Butler and Associates or Sissy Wright (cwright at satitle.com) if you are an employee of Southern American Title or American Home Title at 713-335-8500. If you are a vendor, your message will be responded to at the next earliest convenience. Thanks and have a great week! Mike Schoon From service at paypal.com Sat Jul 30 21:25:24 2005 From: service at paypal.com (service@paypal.com) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 03:25:24 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Notification of Limited Account Access (Routing Code: C840-L001-Q190-T1812) Message-ID: <200507301925.j6UJPOiD013463@localhost.localdomain> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050731/5c2805af/attachment.htm From mschoon at shanksbutler.com Sun Jul 31 12:08:13 2005 From: mschoon at shanksbutler.com (mschoon@shanksbutler.com) Date: 31 Jul 2005 05:08:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Digest, Vol 83, Issue 40 Message-ID: <20050731100813.22702.qmail@vhost05.ev1servers.net> I will be out of the office from August 1, 2005 to August 5, 2005. During this time, service calls may be directed to Martha Dodson (mdodson at shanksbutler.com) at 713-952-5662 if you are an employee of Shanks, Butler and Associates or Sissy Wright (cwright at satitle.com) if you are an employee of Southern American Title or American Home Title at 713-335-8500. If you are a vendor, your message will be responded to at the next earliest convenience. Thanks and have a great week! Mike Schoon